Wrong again, because by playing EVE you accepted the following, BINDING LEGAL AGREEMENT:

"CCP has established Rules of Conduct (discussed below) for players accessing the System and may, but is not obligated to, monitor and take action regarding inappropriate conduct. Nonetheless, it is possible that at any time there may be language or other material accessible on or through the System that you may consider inappropriate for children or that may be offensive to some users of any age. You acknowledge that other players may transmit communications or content, or access to content, that you may consider inappropriate or objectionable. CCP does not, as a matter of policy, prescreen the communications or content transmitted by each player and is in no way responsible for the communications and content transmitted by players of the Game. "

bolded and underlined for your convenience.

Ummm.... no.

I suggest that you read from page 1.

Ok, so lets recap:

* Mittani gets in with the biggest Mandate in CSM history. (Deal with it.)
* The pubbies **** themselves in impotant rage. The Meme about "Goons only voting for Mittani" won't work cause he has 4000 more votes than there are Goons in the game, so obviously the morons will need something else...
* Some made up controversy about Mittani mocking some botting reject hits the airwaves
* ... That'll work: "ZOMG GOONIES ARE BAD! BAD BAD BAD!!"

Protip: If you say "I'm going to kill myself," it means you're not going to kill yourself, you're trolling for attention. People who do commit suicide do not engage in bilateral communication immediately beforehand. Doing so is a sign of attention whoring, not suicide.

What we had is some fat afk botting pubbie running, what, 22 bots at once? And Goons announced they would kill him, and then killed him (which he didn't notice cause he was afk botting), which is a good thing -- because bots are literally killing EVE. Upon getting his ass gently placed upon his head like a hat by the Goons, he tried to rant and guilttrip them as best he could.

Repeat for every whiners convenience:

If the suicidal character feels that he/she has been harassed, he/she should file a petition to CCP.

This is nothing what we should be doing for him in these forums. We do not know anything about the individual and this all could turn out to be hoax. People have rights but it is not other man's work to try and enforce them. If this guy wants something, let him decide about his own actions and stop being silly drama queens

but then again wouldnt this part of the rules and guidelines come into effect,

whether through private in-Game messaging, during chat, or in chat rooms. CCP representatives may monitor communications made by or received from you. You should not provide private information to any other player in the Game. CCP shall not be responsible for the consequences of any such disclosure by you.

Totally irrelevant now.

When your product is getting headlines like

"CCP investigates player panel that encouraged cyber-bullying"

that is bad no matter how you swing it

Wrong again, because by playing EVE you accepted the following, BINDING LEGAL AGREEMENT:

"CCP has established Rules of Conduct (discussed below) for players accessing the System and may, but is not obligated to, monitor and take action regarding inappropriate conduct. Nonetheless, it is possible that at any time there may be language or other material accessible on or through the System that you may consider inappropriate for children or that may be offensive to some users of any age. You acknowledge that other players may transmit communications or content, or access to content, that you may consider inappropriate or objectionable. CCP does not, as a matter of policy, prescreen the communications or content transmitted by each player and is in no way responsible for the communications and content transmitted by players of the Game. "

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c) How you interact with someone who is suicidal IS your responsibility. - Correct.

d) Consequences following from your chosen course of interaction are partly your responsibility. -Correct.

e) Invoking a request to harass someone who has self-identified as suicidal and whom you are unable to rule out as suicidal may lead to serious consequences for that person. - Correct.

f) Therefore, you will be partly responsible for any consequences that might follow from said call to harass. - Correct

Now, I could go on from there but it will be easier to leave the emphasis on this point: your actions have consequences and you don't get to disavow responsibility simply because your actions interact with some pre-existing conditions. ALL actions interact with pre-existing conditions.

Nor do you get to disavow responsibility on the grounds that 'I wasn't sure' because if you weren't sure then you gambled with the other person's well-being. Claiming that you only have a responsibility to avoid certain actions if you are 100% sure that something bad will happen is the biggest pile of horseshit I have ever heard. Just try running a few thought-experiments on that one will you, and see how they come out. It's better that you work through these basic exercises yourself rather than have your hand held as then the lesson will really stick.

Doubtful.

Here's what might happen. Mittens offers up a token apology, life goes on.

Mittens either steps down from CSM or gets removed. After a period of protest from the Goons in Empire, making thousands of people's game life a nightmare, the goons get a new rep and chair, life goes on.


Other than some mea culpa's I don't see much happening.

All of what you have posted is fine.

The problem is that as soon as the The Mittani stood up whilst being film at an official CCP Event, mocked and humiliated a person who possibly could been suicidal and then encourage others to do the same, the **** was always going to hit the fan.

When CCP, their Partners and Investor's are seeing headlines like

"CCP launches investigation after Eve Online FanFest panel accused of mocking suicidal player" - eurogamer.net

"Eve Online Panel Encourages Harassing Suicidal Player" - The Escapist

"CCP investigation into 'suicidal player jokes'" Developer

"CCP investigates player panel that encouraged cyber-bullying" - Massively

Then then it becomes an issue outside of Eve Online.

This just in: Goons are Sophisticated, Insensitive Ingrates.

TOTALLY OK WITH THIS

It goes on and on my friends

This is an absolute disaster for CCP and EVE Online. Why would I play a game where players will try and craft my death in real ******* life? This is way beyond a game. I'm not forking money for this kind of abuse.

All of what you have posted is fine.

The problem is that as soon as the The Mittani stood up whilst being film at an official CCP Event, mocked and humiliated a person who possibly could been suicidal and then encourage others to do the same, the **** was always going to hit the fan.

When CCP, their Partners and Investor's are seeing headlines like

"CCP launches investigation after Eve Online FanFest panel accused of mocking suicidal player" - eurogamer.net

"Eve Online Panel Encourages Harassing Suicidal Player" - The Escapist

"CCP investigation into 'suicidal player jokes'" - Developer

"CCP investigates player panel that encouraged cyber-bullying" - Massively

Then then it becomes an issue outside of Eve Online.

I agree, the game is the game.

They took it out of the game and were calling for an online lynching of a player at the behest of the mittani in a public venue.

Yeah no matter how many votes he got this is bad.

B) The Mittani did not sign the EULA nor did he sign the TOS for Eve Online when he attended Fanfest. The two are mutually exclusive.

Trying to convince someone to commit suicide is criminal. In most countries The Mittani would be charged with the following (if the person in question actually commited suicide):

Aiding and abetting, accessory before the fact, and if they wanted to push it, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, or homicide.

What you would be doing is advocating someone to take their own life which is homicide.

And this irresponsible 'child' is the head of our new CSM?

Arroggant, loudmouth p***k!