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Sponge Blib Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:07:00 - [1531] - Quote Didn't Lenin already said that the mass is stupid, easy to control?
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 609	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:07:00 - [1532] - Quote The number of you that will change your tune if this has action applied to it will be amazing. Imagine this: From now on, if you get ganked, you need only threaten to kill yourself. The standard 'EVE' reaction is to ridicule this, and in doing so you instantly open yourself to petition. You can mock it now, but its going to become the new meta game if you let it become an issue. CCP should take that stance, the man wasn't harmed, doesn't care that this is going on, has moved on with his life in game, and isn't at all concerned, in fact,THE GAME COMPANY ITSELF wasn't concerned until some random player who WAS NOT INVOLVED IN NAME OR ACTION AT ALL other than seeing it on an unrated internet stream that he had full rights to turn off brought it up in a public display. The incident is being used as a weapon. The incident has a potential to set a dangerous precedent. The 'Victim" doesn't give a damn.
Voith Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:07:00 - [1533] - Quote ed jeni wrote: If the mittani supporters are so Completely convinced that their glorious leader has done no wrong then i am sure they will stand by his side and accept whatever punishment, if any is metered out when the dust (sic) settles. or will their support evaporate if the tide is coming in fast, while the mittani sits on the beach on his throne trying to hold back the tide of hatred coming his way. personally, I donGÇÖt give a toss if some carebear threatens suicide due to some goon inspired grief fest. i do however care when the chair of the CSM Incites others to harass said carebear with a view to encouraging his demise. my views are mine and mine alone, but it seems that the bad press boulder is rolling downhill fast, and CCP better find some way of stopping it. Sony are going to be more than a bit ticked off once this bad news story starts to gain traction in the mainstream press, especially as DUST514 is a few months from launch and you can bet that a bucket load of Sony/CCP marketing $$ are going to be rendered useless by the gaming and mainstream bad press stories, for that reason alone and for the good of EVE and CCP MIttens should either step down or do somthing to mitigate the shitstorm that the press can and will stert brewing up. mittens is a douchebag sociopath a quality some may like, some less so. about time CCP did some interdiction of its own this time round, If you blow up my internet space ship, can I threaten suicide and get you banned too?
Twulf The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact 23	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:08:00 - [1534] - Quote Snow Axe wrote: Twulf wrote: How can you be this stupid? Seriously its an honest question. God how can you be this dumb? How on earth do you not hurt yourself while typing? Oh cool the "how can you be this dumb?" game! I've got next: Congress isn't going to act unless there's something in it for them - either money or goodwill from their voterbase. Goodwill from their voterbase would require the public to (a) know about this and to (b) give a **** about it. For this to happen, some major news source would have to pick up the story and run with it, which means they'd have to call it cyber-bullying and interview The Wis about it. Not only does The Wis seem pretty much not-too-bothered about the whole thing, he's also an adult. Cyber-bullying is a hot topic because it falls under the "think of the children" banner, which is pretty much incompatible with an adult, especially one who doesn't seem bothered by what transpired (not anymore, anyway). I guess the TL;DR is "how can you be this dumb? How on earth do you not hurt yourself while typing?" Look another goon that cannot read. I clearly said that it would be worst case but I guess that is to hard for idiots like you to understand. All that would need to happen btw is for an eager Congress person to jump on this issue and use it as example A for why we need their new X law. There are enough anti- gamer groups out there now that I am sure they have an ear of some congress person. This is worst case, this is not going to happen unless everything falls into line just right and I am not saying it should happen. What I am saying, acting like this is some innocent trash talking is just plain silly, it is more than that, anyone with common sense can see that. That is why you goons don't understand. Common sense is not very common with you all.
Professor Alphane Alphane Research Co-operative 402	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:08:00 - [1535] - Quote Ice Fist wrote: Hey, still waiting for you to back up your medical assertions. I mean, you are a medical expert aren't you?? Because if you weren't I mean I probably wouldn't take things you post very seriously. Dude if I where a proffesor of clincal psychology I doubt you'd do anything but try argue with me anyway YOU MUST THINK FIRST....
Nymph Purchasing Ruvas Logistics and Maintenance Services 2	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:08:00 - [1536] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: Today class... we learn that morality is but a mere construct and is not shared by everyone. We will also learn that it is entirely possible to be completely amoral whilst breaking no actual law. This is incorrect. In an increasing number of areas in the United States Alexanders actions would have, in fact, broken relatively new cyber bullying laws. As a mental health professional myself and one who voted for Mittani believing he is capable of doing great things I am very disappointed in his contact and can assure you that the number of accounts supporting him is at least 3 less--the ones I am responsible for.
Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 127	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:08:00 - [1537] - Quote Xenuria wrote: The Thread is more about the untapped outrage over Mittani and the regret people who did not vote for me now have to deal with. Well at least you made me laugh.
space gator Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy 18	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:08:00 - [1538] - Quote https://twitter.com/#!/TheMittani
Suicide Counsellor Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:09:00 - [1539] - Quote It seems that common sense has own and everyone goes back to doing the right thing https://twitter.com/#!/TheMittani/status/184412238218657792
Rihanna Makulu Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:09:00 - [1540] - Quote ed jeni wrote: If the mittani supporters are so Completely convinced that their glorious leader has done no wrong then i am sure they will stand by his side and accept whatever punishment, if any is metered out when the dust (sic) settles. or will their support evaporate if the tide is coming in fast, while the mittani sits on the beach on his throne trying to hold back the tide of hatred coming his way. personally, I donGÇÖt give a toss if some carebear threatens suicide due to some goon inspired grief fest. i do however care when the chair of the CSM Incites others to harass said carebear with a view to encouraging his demise. my views are mine and mine alone, but it seems that the bad press boulder is rolling downhill fast, and CCP better find some way of stopping it. Sony are going to be more than a bit ticked off once this bad news story starts to gain traction in the mainstream press, especially as DUST514 is a few months from launch and you can bet that a bucket load of Sony/CCP marketing $$ are going to be rendered useless by the gaming and mainstream bad press stories, for that reason alone and for the good of EVE and CCP MIttens should either step down or do somthing to mitigate the shitstorm that the press can and will stert brewing up. mittens is a douchebag sociopath a quality some may like, some less so. about time CCP did some interdiction of its own this time round, And the gutter press love nothing more than news like this, its going to be a field day for them if this is stumbled upon by their **** poor journalists who like to make sensationalist stories out of anything on a slow news day. Especially if they can get the word Sony in their story.
Professor Alphane Alphane Research Co-operative 402	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:10:00 - [1541] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Andski wrote: Akelorian wrote: Hey ranger1 perhaps you guys should look more closely. Cyber bullies face very serious consequences. Many cases of cyber bullying include some form of hacking, password or identity theft, or stalking, all of which carry criminal charges. Law enforcement, including the FBI, might get involved. Here are potential consequences if found guilty: GÇó Federal charges. A federal law pending in Congress since 2009 is the Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act. The person convicted would be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. GÇó Prosecution under stalker laws. Many states have updated their stalking laws to include electronic/cyberspace harassment. They include Arizona, Alaska, Connecticut, Michigan, New York, Oklahoma and Wyoming and the list is growing. GÇó Criminal charges filed under U.S. state law are punishable by both fines and jail time. Of the 44 states with bullying laws, five have cyber bullying laws and another 30 states include electronic harassment, according to an Oct. 2010 State Cyberbullying Laws Fact Sheet compiled by the Cyberbullying Research Center. GÇó School suspensions. If it happens at school, disciplinary measures would be determined in accordance with the schoolGÇÖs code of conduct or policy prohibiting bullying, harassment and intimidation. Punishments established by the school board, district or school include suspension from sports teams and school suspensions. Repeated offenses result in the student having to change schools. GÇó Internet Service Provider (ISP) account closure and/or banishment. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr1966/text There is the Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act. I forgot that Fanfest took place in the US Not to mention the fact that The Wis is a mature divorced man, not a child... which is what the above legislation is specifically designed to protect. Come on guys, really? Quote: [21:29:34] Xeross155 > Anyway, CCP is doing an internal audit and **** about it, 3 game news websites have reported it so far, basically tagging it cyber-bullying [21:30:50] The Wis > Ok.. Well that is nice. Hmm.. wait.. If i do kill my self they might arrest him and prosicute him since he is in the US.. That would really be bad for him. [21:31:01] The Wis > Just kidding of course but a thought. [21:31:20] The Wis > Fly safe. I have real life stuff to do now.. ANd to watch for goons in system.. Fun Fun. Read this again slowly. He doesn't care... did not commit suicide... joked about it in his original EVE mail... and in fact is STILL joking about it. If this thread was ever about The Wiz and his mental health, it should end right now. But it won't, because this thread was never about the well being of The Wiz to begin with. And if it was ranger jr , who was having a bad time and you found him hanging in your stairwell you'd feel the same I assume. Mintani did nothing wrong ???? YOU MUST THINK FIRST....
baltec1 878	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:10:00 - [1542] - Quote ed jeni wrote: If the mittani supporters are so Completely convinced that their glorious leader has done no wrong then i am sure they will stand by his side and accept whatever punishment, if any is metered out when the dust (sic) settles. or will their support evaporate if the tide is coming in fast, while the mittani sits on the beach on his throne trying to hold back the tide of hatred coming his way. personally, I donGÇÖt give a toss if some carebear threatens suicide due to some goon inspired grief fest. i do however care when the chair of the CSM Incites others to harass said carebear with a view to encouraging his demise. my views are mine and mine alone, but it seems that the bad press boulder is rolling downhill fast, and CCP better find some way of stopping it. Sony are going to be more than a bit ticked off once this bad news story starts to gain traction in the mainstream press, especially as DUST514 is a few months from launch and you can bet that a bucket load of Sony/CCP marketing $$ are going to be rendered useless by the gaming and mainstream bad press stories, for that reason alone and for the good of EVE and CCP MIttens should either step down or do somthing to mitigate the shitstorm that the press can and will stert brewing up. mittens is a douchebag sociopath a quality some may like, some less so. about time CCP did some interdiction of its own this time round, He said nothing that is not said in Crime and punishment and EVE-Kill every single day.
Bibosikus Inside out. The G0dfathers 48	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:11:00 - [1543] - Quote That twitter won't happen He's a twit. -1 The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux.
Professor Alphane Alphane Research Co-operative 402	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:12:00 - [1544] - Quote Xenuria wrote: The Thread is more about the untapped outrage over Mittani and the regret people who did not vote for me now have to deal with. Yes if everyone had only realised what an ass he really was YOU MUST THINK FIRST....
Voith Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:12:00 - [1545] - Quote I'm going to commit suicide unless every single person who flies a Tengu is banned. (COMPLETELY JOKING) Edit: Titans too. Ban those guys I the minmatar gets it (/Blazing Saddles)
Professor Alphane Alphane Research Co-operative 402	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:12:00 - [1546] - Quote baltec1 wrote: ed jeni wrote: If the mittani supporters are so Completely convinced that their glorious leader has done no wrong then i am sure they will stand by his side and accept whatever punishment, if any is metered out when the dust (sic) settles. or will their support evaporate if the tide is coming in fast, while the mittani sits on the beach on his throne trying to hold back the tide of hatred coming his way. personally, I donGÇÖt give a toss if some carebear threatens suicide due to some goon inspired grief fest. i do however care when the chair of the CSM Incites others to harass said carebear with a view to encouraging his demise. my views are mine and mine alone, but it seems that the bad press boulder is rolling downhill fast, and CCP better find some way of stopping it. Sony are going to be more than a bit ticked off once this bad news story starts to gain traction in the mainstream press, especially as DUST514 is a few months from launch and you can bet that a bucket load of Sony/CCP marketing $$ are going to be rendered useless by the gaming and mainstream bad press stories, for that reason alone and for the good of EVE and CCP MIttens should either step down or do somthing to mitigate the shitstorm that the press can and will stert brewing up. mittens is a douchebag sociopath a quality some may like, some less so. about time CCP did some interdiction of its own this time round, He said nothing that is not said in Crime and punishment and EVE-Kill every single day. 2 wrongs you goofy looking fool YOU MUST THINK FIRST....
EnderCapitalG GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 543	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:13:00 - [1547] - Quote http://twitter.com/#!/Themittani Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. Step two, resign. Step three, send all my isk to the victim. Entirely my fault and unacceptable. Sadly, due to my failings, I was so drunk at the time that I didn't remember what I said until I saw this article. Shameful. However, being drunk was no excuse - I got myself there, after all.
Fractal Muse Republic University Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:14:00 - [1548] - Quote Voith wrote: If you blow up my internet space ship, can I threaten suicide and get you banned too? No. But, if he blows up your ship and you threaten suicide then he attempts to get you to commit suicide and encourages others to harass you to commit suicide as well, yes, he should be banned if that is against the EULA/TOS of EVE Online.
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 609	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:14:00 - [1549] - Quote Dear Xenuria, The EVE community has recently voiced its opinion, where your opinion is concerned. You got 200 votes, out of 300,000 people. Pretty sure I speak for everybody when I tell you that nobody cares what you think. Sincerely, The Popular Vote.
theelusiveyoda Death Troopers 4	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:15:00 - [1550] - Quote Look at all the goons replies, its like someone did something to upset someone in goonswarm like a ceo or something, or are the low on their quota of forum bs. But seriously suggesting someone should take there own life is a serious **headed move imo, and anyone who represents a group of people should not be able to make such comments and get away with it simply because they are part of the csm which claims to represnt players beliefs, i personally do not believe in what the mitanni has said is correct or wish that his point of view be representive of my opinions on such matters. And if you personally think that people with a mental illness or who are depressed should commit suicide then you are a ** and dont really understand basic genetics and causes of mental illnesses and depression in which case go read wikipedia. Also to the people saying people who threaten to commit self harm over a video game should be mocked, while it might be funny in your opinion to laugh at, some people do actually commit harm to themselves and others because of what happens in video games, there have been many scientific studies into the effects that video games have on peoples mental health and perception of real life and suggest you go read some before making such suggestions, after all video games might not be real but the emotions and actions they prevoke very much are real and such actions should not be taken lightly or generaly mocked. And people wonder why people dont like goons much.
Manar Detri Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:15:00 - [1551] - Quote Grath Telkin wrote: The number of you that will change your tune if this has action applied to it will be amazing. Imagine this: From now on, if you get ganked, you need only threaten to kill yourself. The standard 'EVE' reaction is to ridicule this, and in doing so you instantly open yourself to petition. You can mock it now, but its going to become the new meta game if you let it become an issue. CCP should take that stance, the man wasn't harmed, doesn't care that this is going on, has moved on with his life in game, and isn't at all concerned, in fact,THE GAME COMPANY ITSELF wasn't concerned until some random player who WAS NOT INVOLVED IN NAME OR ACTION AT ALL other than seeing it on an unrated internet stream that he had full rights to turn off brought it up in a public display. The incident is being used as a weapon. The incident has a potential to set a dangerous precedent. The 'Victim" doesn't give a damn. Isn't this about a csm telling people to harrass a person in an internet spaceship game in order to make him commit a suicide?:D Idon't see how this can in any way be used for "this dude ganked me and i wanna kill maself". It'd been great and all that if mittani went "damn, imma gonna go and find him and gank him some more". But he went and blurfed "everyone go gank him till he drops dead" so to say . So no, if somethings done bout this ****, it sure as hell won't have an impact on ganking (remember, ganking is the point in the game).
EnderCapitalG GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 543	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:16:00 - [1552] - Quote EnderCapitalG wrote: http://twitter.com/#!/Themittani Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. Step two, resign. Step three, send all my isk to the victim. Entirely my fault and unacceptable. Sadly, due to my failings, I was so drunk at the time that I didn't remember what I said until I saw this article. Shameful. However, being drunk was no excuse - I got myself there, after all. Shut up about your mentallyretarded bullshit and read this post, goddamnit you motherfucking nerds.
Lt Pizi Dark-Rising 1	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:16:00 - [1553] - Quote EnderCapitalG wrote: http://twitter.com/#!/Themittani Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. Step two, resign. Step three, send all my isk to the victim. Entirely my fault and unacceptable. Sadly, due to my failings, I was so drunk at the time that I didn't remember what I said until I saw this article. Shameful. However, being drunk was no excuse - I got myself there, after all. at least HE sees his errors... you goons should follow your leader
Ajita al Tchar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:17:00 - [1554] - Quote Nymph Purchasing wrote: ShahFluffers wrote: Today class... we learn that morality is but a mere construct and is not shared by everyone. We will also learn that it is entirely possible to be completely amoral whilst breaking no actual law. This is incorrect. In an increasing number of areas in the United States Alexanders actions would have, in fact, broken relatively new cyber bullying laws. As a mental health professional myself and one who voted for Mittani believing he is capable of doing great things I am very disappointed in his contact and can assure you that the number of accounts supporting him is at least 3 less--the ones I am responsible for. Well, "law" and "morality" aren't exactly the same thing. One attempts to uphold the other, but since moral values vary from person to person (heck, even the idea of "morality" means different things to different people), it is destined to fail at doing so. The difference is that you should probably not break the law too often or too obviously, whereas you can choose whatever you want as your set of moral values (and most likely be judged accordingly by society). Of course, if laws and consequences were a simple matter, not open to discussion, interpretation and subjectivity in any way, shape or form, we probably wouldn't have need of such people as "lawyers". ultimately, what matters here is what CCP says and they aren't exactly cornered by the law into only having one choice for action (if any at all). This should have no bearing on whether people personally agree with such behavior, although it seems that some are prone into falling the "fallacy of the law" trap.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1449	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:17:00 - [1555] - Quote Well if the tweets are true then well done Mittens for taking responsibility and resigning for what was obviously a totally unacceptable breach of CSM conduct. Hope this is something of a chastening lesson for the goon-followers on this thread. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Selinate 714	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:18:00 - [1556] - Quote space gator wrote: https://twitter.com/#!/TheMittani I've played this game too long to believe a goon. The game doesn't end after you close the client for them. I'll believe that he'll step down when I see it.
Jada Maroo Mysterium Astrometrics Bringers of Death. 653	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:18:00 - [1557] - Quote If he sincerely apologizes and it's clear he realizes what he did was stupid and he accepts some kind of punishment (or even imposes one on himself), then I think it will be over and we should move on. It sounds like he realizes he went too far, which is surprising. I could actually find myself having a little bit of respect for him once it's over if he does it right. But I still half expect the apology to be sarcastic and insincere. We'll see.
Darronis Olachenko 13	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:18:00 - [1558] - Quote EnderCapitalG wrote: http://twitter.com/#!/Themittani Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. Step two, resign. Step three, send all my isk to the victim. Entirely my fault and unacceptable. Sadly, due to my failings, I was so drunk at the time that I didn't remember what I said until I saw this article. Shameful. However, being drunk was no excuse - I got myself there, after all. Yep, looks legit. Not.
Darius III Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD. 1078	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:18:00 - [1559] - Quote Ice Fist wrote: You mean like breaking the NDA, not having anything happen to him about it, and then hypocritically coming on here and calling for the explusion of another CSM leader? Nevermind that the Developers said there was no breach of the NDA in CSM6, keep posting, damage control not working +1 CCP has rededicated themselves to improving Eve and are by and large doing a terrific job at it. My personal faith in them is largely restored. I think the coming changes will revitalize Eve and bring joy to the masses.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 1261	Posted - 2012.03.26 23:18:00 - [1560] - Quote Quote: And if it was ranger jr , who was having a bad time and you found him hanging in your stairwell you'd feel the same I assume. Mintani did nothing wrong ???? Actually, Ranger Jr. will find this thread rather amusing as... A: He is not a child. B: He is not an idiot. Just like The Wiz.... who also finds the situation amusing. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point. Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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