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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
sophisticatedlimabean, you should really stop taking others posts out of topic. If i see you reply to one that comes with somethng that have with this topic to do and then you goes emo rage and takes that reply out of topic one more single time. I'm going to report you for getting everyone here to go off topic.
I will do the exact same to you including reporting for foul language that you use a lot despite the language filter along with the ad hom insults you use as well as emorage posting.
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7shining7one7
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 01/03/2009 15:26:41
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: NightmareX
sophisticatedlimabean, you should really stop taking others posts out of topic. If i see you reply to one that comes with somethng that have with this topic to do and then you goes emo rage and takes that reply out of topic one more single time. I'm going to report you for getting everyone here to go off topic.
I will do the exact same to you including reporting for foul language that you use a lot despite the language filter along with the ad hom insults you use as well as emorage posting.
and here he goes again.. how many ad hominems do you want from the other thread from your mouth? not just towards me and nightmare but many others too.. i can give you hundreds.. you got nothing whatsoever to back you except hoping ppl will do TL;DR and believe your short summaries..
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: NightmareX
sophisticatedlimabean, you should really stop taking others posts out of topic. If i see you reply to one that comes with somethng that have with this topic to do and then you goes emo rage and takes that reply out of topic one more single time. I'm going to report you for getting everyone here to go off topic.
I will do the exact same to you including reporting for foul language that you use a lot despite the language filter along with the ad hom insults you use as well as emorage posting.
Uhm, your the one that use fould language here.
Ok, lets test this. I will now report you for lying to me, and then see whos the one that gets the ban.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7
dude projectiles path DOES have hole in them.. projectiles are not a beam.. because they are a a projectile therefore they don't take up a full line from a to b.. a laser is a constant beam from the moment it fires till it stops..
Utterly and totally WRONG yet again.
The mechanics of gunnery systems in eve are math based inside you PC and as such are exactly the same per system as a math based mechanic.
Projectiles do not have holes in them as you are not actually firing anything in eve you are activating a mathematical calculation with a visual effect, the same with beams they are also based on the exact same math but are given a different visual effect on your screen and the calculation includes different dmg types ect.
How can you not comprehend?.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 15:36:05 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 15:32:11
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 15:27:07
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: NightmareX
sophisticatedlimabean, you should really stop taking others posts out of topic. If i see you reply to one that comes with somethng that have with this topic to do and then you goes emo rage and takes that reply out of topic one more single time. I'm going to report you for getting everyone here to go off topic.
I will do the exact same to you including reporting for foul language that you use a lot despite the language filter along with the ad hom insults you use as well as emorage posting.
Uhm, your the one that use fould language here.
I will now report you for lying to me, and then see whos the one that gets the ban.
I suggest you include a link to it...
(i think il start with post 1096 + 1042)...and done....i guess i was not lying..
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:35:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 15:38:21 The post has been reported.
Return to forum
Now enjoy that sophisticatedlimabean.
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7shining7one7
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 01/03/2009 15:45:54
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: 7shining7one7
dude projectiles path DOES have hole in them.. projectiles are not a beam.. because they are a a projectile therefore they don't take up a full line from a to b.. a laser is a constant beam from the moment it fires till it stops..
Utterly and totally WRONG yet again.
The mechanics of gunnery systems in eve are math based inside you PC and as such are exactly the same per system as a math based mechanic.
Projectiles do not have holes in them as you are not actually firing anything in eve you are activating a mathematical calculation with a visual effect, the same with beams they are also based on the exact same math but are given a different visual effect on your screen and the calculation includes different dmg types ect.
How can you not comprehend?.
i was saying with those posts you took out of context how each weapon system worked so that you understood what the basic principle was behind them being different and having different strengths and weakness and how scorch did NOT hit everything from 0 to 45km.. (as in why projectiles work more in fall off and why lasers work mostly within optimal and sucky in falloff)
and then i make one theorycraft mistake by saying that lasers loose damage when they get close due to it being too far below their optimal.. and partly because of tracking.. when it was primarly because of tracking.. AND THATS THE ONLY THING YOU CAN PIN ME ON.. in a 28+ threadnought.. and i can easily find like 600 examples in the same thread of you directly trolling, misrepresenting, making silly scenarios, and outright lying about things.. and being called a troll by other people..
1:600 ratio.. you loose..
oh wow it's a online game.. REALLY.. i never realized that you f'ing clown.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:37:00 -
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i think il start with post 1096 + 1042...and done....i guess i was not lying about you foul launguage.....
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 15:40:41
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean i think il start with post 1096 + 1042...and done....i guess i was not lying about you foul launguage.....
I did not report you for using foul language, i was reporting you for lying and taking others reply that are on topic out of topic. And for acusing me for something i have never said.
Oh noes, some foul language. It's not like i'm a 6 years old kid that starts crying for hearing a little nasty word.
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7shining7one7
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 01/03/2009 15:40:42
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean i think il start with post 1096 + 1042...and done....i guess i was not lying about you foul launguage.....
dude.. pot meet kettle.. the other threadnought speaks volumes.. nearly all your replies were basically condescending.. if you're wondering why we're being an ass towards you take a look in the mirror..
FURTHERMORE.. you tried to report me in the other thread like 20 times.. everytime i said something you couldn't refute you called me troll.. but nothing happened.. i wonder why.. maybe it could be because you're full of it..
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Beverly Sparks
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:51:00 -
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 15:53:46 Anyway...
As has been pointed out by myself, djego and many others blasters have weaknesses that lasers do not have and the only real weakness lasers have is compensated by the ehp the ships using them get.
The problem is even more pronounced when in reference the most common form of BS combat in eve GANG COMBAT.
This idea is a good one to improve the effectiveness of blasters and has been given support by many from both races:
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=22955&start=45
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TrollmoreX
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 01/03/2009 15:40:42
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean i think il start with post 1096 + 1042...and done....i guess i was not lying about you foul launguage.....
dude.. pot meet kettle.. the other threadnought speaks volumes.. nearly all your replies were basically condescending.. if you're wondering why we're being an ass towards you take a look in the mirror..
FURTHERMORE.. you tried to report me in the other thread like 20 times.. everytime i said something you couldn't refute you called me troll.. but nothing happened.. i wonder why.. maybe it could be because you're full of it..
In before the next 'OMG ItS OBVIOUS YOUR SUCK AND ARE A TROLL ' reply by my lesser counterpart   
Ps NightmareX ill troll the forums for ya while your enjoying your 30-90 days off.
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TrollmoreX
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 01/03/2009 15:40:42
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean i think il start with post 1096 + 1042...and done....i guess i was not lying about you foul launguage.....
dude.. pot meet kettle.. the other threadnought speaks volumes.. nearly all your replies were basically condescending.. if you're wondering why we're being an ass towards you take a look in the mirror..
FURTHERMORE.. you tried to report me in the other thread like 20 times.. everytime i said something you couldn't refute you called me troll.. but nothing happened.. i wonder why.. maybe it could be because you're full of it..
Dont forget to report his alt as well, the name of is is said on the last page iirc.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 15:53:46 Anyway...
As has been pointed out by myself, djego and many others blasters have weaknesses that lasers do not have and the only real weakness lasers have is compensated by the ehp the ships using them get.
The problem is even more pronounced when in reference the most common form of BS combat in eve GANG COMBAT.
This idea is a good one to improve the effectiveness of blasters and has been given support by many from both races:
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=22955&start=45
To be really honest with you now. If there really is a weapon that REALLY need to be boosted, then it's the Projectiles.
I think we all can agree on that.
Boost Projectiles before you touch Blasters, if that's needed.
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TrollmoreX
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 15:53:46 Anyway...
As has been pointed out by myself, djego and many others blasters have weaknesses that lasers do not have and the only real weakness lasers have is compensated by the ehp the ships using them get.
The problem is even more pronounced when in reference the most common form of BS combat in eve GANG COMBAT.
This idea is a good one to improve the effectiveness of blasters and has been given support by many from both races:
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=22955&start=45
To be really honest with you now. If there really is a weapon that REALLY need to be boosted, then it's the Projectiles.
I think we all can agree on that.
Boost Projectiles before you touch Blasters, if that's needed.
Want me to quote some of the thousand replies by you that 'AC's are totally fine and that your a noob and you obviously suck if you think otherwise'?
You really like to own yourself huh?          
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 15:57:49
Originally by: TrollmoreX Want me to quote some of the thousand replies by you that 'AC's are totally fine and that your a noob and you obviously suck if you think otherwise'?
You really like to own yourself huh?          
I really recommend you to read my reply again.
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TrollmoreX
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 15:57:49
Originally by: TrollmoreX Want me to quote some of the thousand replies by you that 'AC's are totally fine and that your a noob and you obviously suck if you think otherwise'?
You really like to own yourself huh?          
I really recommend you to read my reply again.
Nothing is going to save your skin now, brother.
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7shining7one7
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 01/03/2009 16:00:28
Originally by: TrollmoreX
Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 01/03/2009 15:40:42
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean i think il start with post 1096 + 1042...and done....i guess i was not lying about you foul launguage.....
dude.. pot meet kettle.. the other threadnought speaks volumes.. nearly all your replies were basically condescending.. if you're wondering why we're being an ass towards you take a look in the mirror..
FURTHERMORE.. you tried to report me in the other thread like 20 times.. everytime i said something you couldn't refute you called me troll.. but nothing happened.. i wonder why.. maybe it could be because you're full of it..
Dont forget to report his alt as well, the name of is is said on the last page iirc.
i never reported you once dude.. that's the funny part..
oh alts.. you mean trollmoreX/trader20/maralt/sophisticatedlimabean/murina/cucac... yeah i think that was all of em 
QUICK.. to the biomass mobile!
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 16:02:37
Originally by: TrollmoreX
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 15:57:49
Originally by: TrollmoreX Want me to quote some of the thousand replies by you that 'AC's are totally fine and that your a noob and you obviously suck if you think otherwise'?
You really like to own yourself huh?          
I really recommend you to read my reply again.
Nothing is going to save your skin now, brother.
Save my skin?. Well i was honest enough to say that Artilleries need a Boost long way before Blasters need a boost .
The thing about boosting Artilleries have gone for years. It have been going since the first HP buff to all ships.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Anyway...
As has been pointed out by myself, djego and many others blasters have weaknesses that lasers do not have and the only real weakness lasers have is compensated by the ehp the ships using them get.
The problem is even more pronounced when in reference the most common form of BS combat in eve GANG COMBAT.
This idea is a good one to improve the effectiveness of blasters and has been given support by many from both races:
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=22955&start=45
To be really honest with you now. If there really is a weapon that REALLY need to be boosted, then it's the Projectiles.
I think we all can agree on that.
Boost Projectiles before you touch Blasters, if that's needed.
But as i see it now today, it's not needed to boost either Blasters os Projectiles.
Whan i talk about boosting projectiles, then i'm talking about the Atrilleries. Not Autocannons. The Autocannons are fine as they are now.
Il allow that comment to go unreported even though it was off topic for a fix blasters thread...
And il agree that arties are the suckiest gunnery system in eve and do need a boost, even if this is not the thread for it and nor does it justify delaying a fix to blasters.
Id even support it and argue just as tenaciously if a fix arties thread was started.
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7shining7one7
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Il allow that comment to go unreported even though it was off topic for a fix blasters thread...
Quoted for extreme irony! 
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Il allow that comment to go unreported even though it was off topic for a fix blasters thread...
And il agree that arties are the suckiest gunnery system in eve and do need a boost, even if this is not the thread for it and nor does it justify delaying a fix to blasters.
Id even support it and argue just as tenaciously if a fix arties thread was started.

I just pointed out that there is another weapon system that have 4789375 times more priority to get boosted long way before Blasters do.
Nothing wrong by saying that.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: cucac Omni tank means same resists against all dmg ( at least similar ) so your "em/therm dmg is less effective against armor" point is not valid.
No, it does not. "Omni tank" means fitting omni resist modules such as invulnerability fields, Energized Adaptive Nano Membranes, and Damage Controls.
The practice you are referring to is called "tri-hardening" which is putting three specific hardeners on in order to have even resists. It is, in all ways, a foolish proposition.
The way we can determine this by looking at how strong tanks are when using the same number of slots. If you use three specific hardeners and a DC or you use 2 eanms, a DC, and a plate, you will nearly universally come out ahead in universal EHP with the 2 eanms, dc, and a plate. When you run the numbers on a battleship, you will find that you end up trading roughly 5k EHP kinetic, thermal, and explosive, for roughly 50k(or more) EHP EM. If you assume that all damage types are roughly equal in distribution (which is almost true), then you're trading 15k EHP for 50k EHP.
Such, unless you know what you're facing, its in all ways a bad idea to use specific hardeners(unless you've got a massive repping tank on a capital ship). If you want, you can run the payoff matrix yourself and see how bad an idea it is.
Originally by: Ephemeron Nerfing is a bad thing
No, its not. In the end, people will play your game if its fun, and nerfing, in some situations, is the easiest and best way to make the game fun.
This occurs when only one thing is out of line and that thing is better than the others. When one thing is out of line and its worse than the others, you buff. When its more than one thing, you choose whichever is closer.
Quote: emphasize their strengths and weakness, make them more distinct from other short range weapons
It is quite ironic that you are posting this in a thread where everyone else wants to extend the range of blasters to make them better in a gang, to make them less distinct weapons.
Aside: What do you think of the signature radius of the Hyperion.
Originally by: The Djego
Since Lasers are intendet to work in exactly the same situations equaly well than Blasters and Aks?
No, it was a comment relating to their general strengths and weaknesses. I was saying they are pretty close to each other in efficacy and if you boost one, you're going to have to boost the rest.
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Not again this stupid discussion, I explaind this to you multipe times why the advantages you see arnŠt advantages on TQ, while you repeeting this line again and again without starting a real discussion.
No, you haven't. You've said "nuh uh". And each time i explain again how these mechanics work and how they hanged and what that means for the ships.
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1. Ofc they do and there arnŠt any Threads about Rockets, Hams, Aks or Blasters on the Froums. When did you read the last Blasters\AKs\Rockets\Hams\Torps are op Topic, because they serious outperforme other Weapons in her intendet role?
I am not sure what you're saying.
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2. No I donŠt actualy mean this. Even if It would be hilariously broken in your Opinion I would call it hilariously funny, would be kind of a cure to the bing a bigger Blob sydrome and create situations where it wouldnŠt be just stupid to warp in close range Gank Ships into a sniper Blob(asuming there is no lag in eve ofc) instead of bringing your own Sniper Blob or stuff like this.
No, it would not be a cure for the "bring a bigger blob" syndrome. People would just bring a bigger blob of the better ships.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
I just pointed out that there is another weapon system that have 4789375 times more priority to get boosted long way before Blasters do.
Nothing wrong by saying that.
Start a thread this one is for blasters.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 16:10:12
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: NightmareX
I just pointed out that there is another weapon system that have 4789375 times more priority to get boosted long way before Blasters do.
Nothing wrong by saying that.
Start a thread this one is for blasters.
Pfffft , it's still nothing wrong to say that Blasters is not the weapon system that need a boost now. And then i just pointed out what weapon system that really need to be boosted long way before Blasters.
I was still on topic about Blasters when i said that Blasters doesn't need to get a boost now today. I was talking about the Blasters so. Even when i mentioned Artilleries.
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Pfffft , it's still nothing wrong to say that Blasters is not the weapon system that need a boost now. And then i just pointed out what weapon system that really need to be boosted long way before Blasters.
I was still on topic about Blasters when i said that Blasters doesn't need to get a boost now today. I was talking about the Blasters so. Even when i mentioned Artilleries.
Dear god is pointless argumentative trolling all you do?.
Blasters need a boost they are hardly better in the ranges that they are supposed to be supreme while they are useless at ranges all the other systems especially lasers do great in.
The pvp that they are supposed to excel in is no longer a option and they are awful in gangs compared to pulse BS.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 16:34:14
Originally by: Andnowthenews
Originally by: NightmareX
Pfffft , it's still nothing wrong to say that Blasters is not the weapon system that need a boost now. And then i just pointed out what weapon system that really need to be boosted long way before Blasters.
I was still on topic about Blasters when i said that Blasters doesn't need to get a boost now today. I was talking about the Blasters so. Even when i mentioned Artilleries.
Dear god is pointless argumentative trolling all you do?.
Blasters need a boost they are hardly better in the ranges that they are supposed to be supreme while they are useless at ranges all the other systems especially lasers do great in.
The pvp that they are supposed to excel in is no longer a option and they are awful in gangs compared to pulse BS.
Reported for calling me a troll. When i'm not. I was just telling the truth there dude.
And the way someone in this topic want to boost Blasters, is totally going to make Autocannons and Torps really borked.
Maybe we should come with a new idea on how we can boost Blasters or the ships that have bonuses to Blasters?. It might even get aprooved by me if it's good and as long it's not making the other 2 weapon systems really borked.
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Andnowthenews on 01/03/2009 16:37:06
Originally by: NightmareX
Reported for calling me a troll. When i'm not. I was just telling the truth there dude.
Reported for lying about me calling you a troll when i clearly asked you a simple question and made no accusation what so ever.
On topic.
If blasters need a boost (and they clearly do) they just need one the time frame is not important, just because other systems need one as well is a topic for another thread.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 16:45:23
Originally by: Andnowthenews
Originally by: NightmareX
Reported for calling me a troll. When i'm not. I was just telling the truth there dude.
Reported for lying about me calling you a troll when i clearly asked you a simple question and made no accusation what so ever.
On topic.
If blasters need a boost (and they clearly do) they just need one the time frame is not important, just because other systems need one as well is a topic for another thread.
So when i said that Blasters don't need a Boost, and then you come here and call me a troll.
Then i think that you are the one who are trolling here.
And i'm gonna lol hard if you reported me, because i was only saying that Blasters don't need a boost, and then you say i'm lying about you when i reported you. And then you said i was a troll for only telling that Blasters dont need to be boosted.
Awesome man, you just shoot your self in the foot there .
If you really reported that, and the devs see those replies, who is the one that will get a warning for trolling then?.
Ok, one more off topic reply from you now, then there will be another report of you. I'm tired of you to take everyone off topic in every reply we post here.
I was on topic when i was saying that Blasters don't need to be boosted. So there is no excuses that i was any off topic that way.
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