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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 18:15:40
Originally by: Andnowthenews
Originally by: NightmareX
Oh the tears, they are so delightfull.
You are the most disgusting and pathetic child troll on this entire forum.
Now i feel hurt by you, i'm now gonna go and emo cry in a corner, just because of you.
Damn you, you destroyed all of my good feelings i had here now.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 18:24:23
Originally by: NightmareX
constant troll
You are gonna get banned and you so deserve it.
Anyway on topic.
Measuring success vs failure we see blaster gangs hardly winning against laser gangs even when fights start at 5km and never without heavy loses but if a fight started at 20+km we would see massive losses of blaster ships and very light losses for the laser gang.
Include the fact that in almost all situation on killboards we see lasers as top dmg dealers then id say this is a priority issue that needs fixing.
/waits for troll...
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 18:25:59
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: NightmareX
constant troll
You are gonna get banned and you so deserve it.
And you would not get banned because?.
Dude i was just defending my self from someone that are calling me for troll, when in fact it's him that are trolling me. Because i said something that he knows is true, and are angry because of that.
I have the full right to defend back.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX rant
/ignore
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 18:29:00 -
[1295]
Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 18:35:19
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: NightmareX rant
/ignore
Yeah that's all you can say when you can't answer on my questions.
It's nothing new that you have to call someone for troll when you realize that your wrong and cannot answer back.
I'm waiting for you to go raaaaaaaaaabbbbbbleeeee rabble rabble again.
Ok just to try and get more on topic again. I will say this all over again about the Blaster boost that someone want to have here.
If the Blasters are going to get boosted like sophisticatedlimabean are saying, they are going to get extremely overpowered and will absolutely be OP and FOTM then, and will also make Autocannons and Missiles totally obsolete / useless in PVP, and will do so no one will ever use Autocannons or Missiles ever again. And by that, this boost will make combat very very unbalanced.
That's all.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego
Graph from SHC
This is vs a 2 EANM+DCU Tank it is the worst case scenario for any Laser based ship. While Amarr/Gallente/Caldari T2 Ships have very good Kin Resists(and Therm, since Amarr will plug this hole) and Hardner Tanks also.
Hyperions DPS with AN crashes rapidly after 16km, Null Hype after 24km. Abaddon is very simlar to the Null Hype with Multifrequency(25 DPS diffrence in itŠs worst case scenario while still having the option to instant switching over to Scorch if required). Mealstorm is subpar with Barrage after 26km against the Scorch Abaddon(again in the worst case szenario for resistances for Lasers).
I can agree that for Antimatter the Range is to high(on the BS level, 8-10km instead of 16 would be more resonalbe) and Null gets a bit to much range(but not that drasticly, should fade more at 20km instead of 24km). Still keep in mind that Neutrons are restrict the Blaster Ships to weak tanks/buffer fits, what is not the case for 800er/Mega Puls fittings(exept on the Gedon). This is why I perfere mostly a solution around the Webs, since they only give a advantage where the Blaster Ship should have one, in Web range.
I can hardly see any kind of serious out of ballance issues for the Meal in this grap(keep in mind it based on the worst case for the Laser BS from the resistance point of view).
I have a couple of reservations and they are similar to yours but it does not look bad imho and certainly not "the end of balance in eve".
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Zubakis
Bambooule
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Posted - 2009.03.01 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
If the Blasters are going to get boosted like sophisticatedlimabean are saying, they are going to get extremely overpowered and will absolutely be OP and FOTM then, and will also make Autocannons and Missiles totally obsolete / useless in PVP, and will do so no one will ever use Autocannons or Missiles ever again. And by that, this boost will make combat very very unbalanced.
That's all.
Explain pls. More detailed.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 18:51:00 -
[1298]
Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 18:51:29
Originally by: Zubakis
Originally by: NightmareX
If the Blasters are going to get boosted like sophisticatedlimabean are saying, they are going to get extremely overpowered and will absolutely be OP and FOTM then, and will also make Autocannons and Missiles totally obsolete / useless in PVP, and will do so no one will ever use Autocannons or Missiles ever again. And by that, this boost will make combat very very unbalanced.
That's all.
Explain pls. More detailed.
Do i really need to explain that?. It's clearly that this will be the problems if that boost ever happens.
But anyways, since you asked and did not troll or flame me, i'm gonna give you an example.
Well atm, Autocannons have a big falloff on their guns. And that means when we are more out of Blaster range today, we can still hit them, but with crappy DPS.
But then take this boost into the picture. We then makes Blasters into a Laser clone so you can hit pretty good at 30 km as Lasers do because of their range.
Then that Blaster ship goes up against an Autocannon boat. What will happen here then?. Yes the Blasters will have longer range on the optimal than Autocannons ever can dream off, and Autocannons have to go into deep deep falloff and still be outdamaged by Blasters by like 3-4 times in every ranges Autocannons have.
As things are today, a Tempest for example should not go into a Blaster Mega's web range to be honest. That's the reason we stay out of their web range and shoot them in our falloff range. That's the advantage Autocannons have.
The advantage Blasters have in the web range / 5 km range is that they can melt things pretty damn fast.
I hope you get a picture of this example. I could give you 5 more examples, but it will be ALOT to write.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:02:01
Originally by: Zubakis
Explain pls. More detailed.
In the graph blaster hype are doing a entire ship melting earth shattering.... 60dps at 30km.....
The AC mael is doing 180dps at 30km...
Lasers are doing 240dps at 30km..
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:02:00 -
[1300]
Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:06:27
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:01:04
Originally by: Zubakis
Explain pls. More detailed.
In the graph blaster hype are doing a entire ship melting earth shattering.... 60dps at 30km.....
The AC mael is doing 180dps at 30km...
Yeah before you boost the range on the Blasters so they can do more damage in the 25-30 km range.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:06:00 -
[1301]
Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:06:26
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:03:25
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
In the graph blaster hype are doing a entire ship melting earth shattering.... 60dps at 30km.....
The AC mael is doing 180dps at 30km...
Lasers are doing 240dps at 30km..
Yeah before you boost the range on the Blasters so they can do more damage in the 25-30 km range.
Sorry to interrupt your usual deluded ranting but this is a graph after the systems have been adjusted.....
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:09:00 -
[1302]
Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:09:51
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:06:26
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:03:25
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
In the graph blaster hype are doing a entire ship melting earth shattering.... 60dps at 30km.....
The AC mael is doing 180dps at 30km...
Lasers are doing 240dps at 30km..
Yeah before you boost the range on the Blasters so they can do more damage in the 25-30 km range.
Sorry to interrupt your usual deluded ranting but this is a graph after the systems have been adjusted.....
And by boosting the range on Blasters, you are also destroying the only advantage Autocannons have in PVP, also to fight in optimal / outside of web range.
First of all, a Tempest doesn't have a huge armor, and with the damage Blasters will push out then at 15-18 km range will be so insane that a Tempest for example is doomed to lose anyways.
And doesn't come with this that bawwww, Lasers have a good damage at 20-25 km anyways. Because when you take the EM and Thermal resists into the picture, those damages at those ranges doesn't bother me, at all.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:15:16
Originally by: NightmareX
And by boosting the range on Blasters, you are also destroying the only advantage Autocannons have in PVP, also to fight in optimal / outside of web range.
AM is still virtually useless to use outside web range or should be with a tweak (try reading the graph and my earlier post before you rant) and null already hits outside web range NOW and has not had a dmg buff so its the same.
Originally by: NightmareX And doesn't come with this that bawwww, Lasers have a good damage at 20-25 km anyways. because when you take the EM and Thermal resists into the picture, those damages at those ranges doesn't bother me
Resists were taken into account on the graph and they were worst case for lasers...
Did you even bother to read or look at the graph before you began posting???....
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:15:32
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Did you even bother to read or look at the graph before you began posting???....
And you think those graphs are everything in PVP?.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:16:24
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:15:11
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Did you even bother to read or look at the graph before you began posting???....
And you think those graphs are everything in PVP?.
You must think they do as you hit emo red line in the above posts....
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:24:40
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:18:05
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Did you even bother to read or look at the graph before you began posting???....
And you think those graphs are everything in PVP?.
You must think they do as you hit emo red line in the above posts....
And at least read it instead of just going off on a major delusional and incorrect rant..again.
I'm ranting for telling you that those graphs are not everything in PVP and that there are many many factors other than just DPS and EHP that count in when it's about PVP?. And how many times have i told you this in this topic?. LOTS of times. But meh, you just ignore it all.
Jesus, everything in your world is ranting or trolls whatever we say.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:25:54
Originally by: NightmareX
I'm ranting for telling you that those graphs are not everything in PVP?.
ERM no the rant was when you claimed the graph was gonna get a boost to tracking and dmg in the 25-30km range (AND THAT I ASKED FOR ONE) when it is actually complete and in the above post i agree that antimatter should get a range reduction so it is not worth using over 10km (POST 1232).....
That dear boy was you ranting.
Your comments on the graph were made after you realized you made a fool of yourself again by ranting on without comprehension or understanding...
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Your comments on the graph were made after you realized you made a fool of yourself again by ranting on without comprehension or understanding...
Oh really?.
That comment was actually made before your post. I took it from and earlier post and took it into the post after. I edited it out like 5 secs after i wrote that in the earlier post before that.
So no excuses dude.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:35:36
Originally by: NightmareX
That comment was actually made before your post. I took it from and earlier post and took it into the post after. I edited it out like 5 secs after i wrote that in the earlier post before that.
If you look in a dictionary under "rant" you may see a example that looks a lot like your above post..
You spend so much time and make so many posts explaining in convoluted ways of how you posted with bla bla bla before, after, within, without, up, down, left, right, today, yesterday, me, you ect ect..
Do you think i or anybody else even care about you trying to cover your silly mistakes??.
Take a day off and a chill pill for gods sake.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:45:30
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:39:55
Originally by: NightmareX
That comment was actually made before your post. I took it from and earlier post and took it into the post after. I edited it out like 5 secs after i wrote that in the earlier post before that.
If you look in a dictionary under "rant" you may see a example that looks a lot like your above post..
You spend so much time and make so many posts explaining in convoluted ways of how you posted with bla bla bla before, after, within, without, up, down, left, right, today, yesterday, me, you ect ect..
Do you think i or anybody else even care about you trying to cover your silly mistakes??.
You give nothing to this thread take a day off and a chill pill for gods sake.
And i forgot to ask you about one thing.
If you realy wanted to have a boost on the damage on Blasters at the 25-30 km range, the blasters should clearly have more dps at those ranges than only 60 DPS when Lasers have 240 DPS at that range. Wasn't that DPS after the boost right?. And didn't you want the Blasters to do around the same DPS as Lasers at those ranges?.
Oh wait, you was twisting on the reply to get away so you don't look like an idiot.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:47:42
Originally by: NightmareX
And i forgot to ask you about one thing.
If you really wanted to have a boost on the damage on Blasters at the 25-30 km range
STOP RIGHT THERE.
I never asked for or even mentioned a boost in dmg from 25-30km that happened somewhere in your obsessed delusional head, because you think it would give you a reason to rant.....
You need help.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:55:21
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:47:42
Originally by: NightmareX
And i forgot to ask you about one thing.
If you really wanted to have a boost on the damage on Blasters at the 25-30 km range
STOP RIGHT THERE.
I never asked for or even mentioned a boost in dmg from 25-30km that happened somewhere in your obsessed delusional head, because you think it would give you a reason to rant.....
You need help.
If i need help, then help me to explain why you was telling that you wanted a range boost on Blasters so you could get more DPS as lasers on the 25-30 km range then?. Or at least much much better damages at those ranges.
You was clearly saying that earlier.
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The Djego
This is the opinion of one Person in this Thread, one person != everyone. Many people stated mutliple times that range isnŠt the problem on blasters, it is the efficency at her range
I am sorry, i have to deal with a number of people with multiple varying opinions. The vast majority of them have been arguing for an "increased gang role by extending the range of blasters".
The guy you quoted didnŠt. I also donŠt want this, because I know what kind of problems this would cause.
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The Djego
If you want more efficiency in your range, i suggest flying a Hyperion.
We allready had this discussion.
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The Djego
You keep evade multiple times a comment on my situational examples(related to TQ gameplay) where the big advantages you think to see in the raw data preaty much fail leading to the intendet advantage on TQ. So far we had Hype vs Mega, DPS vs DPS, Tracking vs Tracking, Range vs Range, Damage Type effects vs Armor/T2/Shields, so is this nothing, all points invalid, all arguments wrong?
I have not evaded anything. The rest i have no clue what you're talking about.
Well I have stated quite some arguments why I use a Mega instead of a Hype. I have stated arguments why the Blaster Ship today is underpowert. I have stated arguments that with the better Tracking/DPS even in 1o1s Blaster Ships are only equal at best to Laser ships(in the BS Class mainly) because of the EHP/Range diffrence(while the Laser ships getting better with bigger gangs).
I have stated that any change in QR didnŠt improve Blaster Ships at all: - weaker Web affects the Blaster ship the most because itŠs based on this PVP range - Scramblers affect Blaster ship the most, because they work at Blaster range and handycap the ship with the smaller range more - lower speeds and longer accelation handicaps Blaster ships the most(because they got the smallest Range in the beginning and need to get close fast - Tracking advantage against other Weapons donŠt helps much at her short range, Orbiting is pointless against ships that move(both webbed) or in situations you get a 2. Web/Painter/Scrambler on you
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The Djego
Serious?
Seriously. I have a hard time reading your stilted English as it is. I understand that its not your first language and so am not begrudging you for it, but that doesn't make it any easier to understand what point you're trying to get across.
Im sorry, my apologies for my bad english.
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The Djego
So having 100 Blaster Ships in a Gang would be practical in the current Primary is..., Secendary is... F1-F8 gameplay we have, over 100 Laser/Rail/Arti fitted Ships to make it FOTM?
I personaly highly doubt this, it is practial in a smaller gangs and donŠt traslates to good up to bigger ones.
Currently, of course not. But that was not the question. You purported a situation in which warping in at close range with a small group of blaster ships would give you enough of an advantage to beat a larger group of ships. I responded by saying "if that were possible, people would just bring a larger group of the ships that were better"
That is a very interesting sentence. Having the in theorie better ships avaidalbe but having them unpractical in bigger gangs(because of her combat Range). So the better ships arnŠt better in larger groups, what makes the meaning of "bring more of the better ships" actualy a very complex thing.
Also I stated that I doubt it will went so far, but It is basicly my Idea why I suggest a Blaster Boost(including other short range Weapons, excluding Lasers) to ballance up Small Gang\Solo again in favour of ships that belong there and loose her point in the bigger gangs.
---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 19:47:42
Originally by: NightmareX
And i forgot to ask you about one thing.
If you really wanted to have a boost on the damage on Blasters at the 25-30 km range
STOP RIGHT THERE.
I never asked for or even mentioned a boost in dmg from 25-30km that happened somewhere in your obsessed delusional head, because you think it would give you a reason to rant.....
You need help.
If i need help, then help me to explain why you was telling that you wanted a range boost on Blasters so you could get more DPS as lasers on the 25-30 km range then?.
You was clearly saying that earlier.
Wrong i said nothing about boosting blasters the 25-30km range you are delusional or just lying to cover making a fool of yourself once again.
The actual ranges i mentioned are only a page or two back maybe you should go check before you post again huh?...
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 19:58:21
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Wrong i said nothing about boosting blasters the 25-30km range you are delusional or just lying to cover making a fool of yourself once again.
The actual ranges i mentioned are only a page or two back maybe you should go check before you post again huh?...
Want me to quote you on that?.
Or maybe you have changed you mind maybe. Because like 10-15 pages ago you wanted to have Blasters to take almost as much DPS at Lasers do in 25-30 km range.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 20:04:15
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Wrong i said nothing about boosting blasters the 25-30km range you are delusional or just lying to cover making a fool of yourself once again.
The actual ranges i mentioned are only a page or two back maybe you should go check before you post again huh?...
Want me to quote you on that?.
100% yes as post 1088 (page 37) shows the ranges i was talking about......
post 1088 kthnxbye...
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Koloch
Amarr Warriors Lost
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Posted - 2009.03.01 20:39:00 -
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I still don't understand why you think range is the way to balance blasters. I think you are after something different - like an increased role in medium range combat and not really balance while maintaining variation ? I don't think the lines between the races should be blurred.
Blasters should remain ultimate close range in your face weapons. The advantage blaster ships have over pulse is they are designed to work with a speed mod allowing them to move into their optimal range, the amarr ship can not dictate range. If I'm in a blaster ship I can care less about hitting further out. I want to get into range quickly and put the hurt on.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.03.01 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 01/03/2009 20:55:36
Originally by: Koloch I still don't understand why you think range is the way to balance blasters. I think you are after something different - like an increased role in medium range combat and not really balance while maintaining variation ? I don't think the lines between the races should be blurred.
Actually im against any real range buff, the boost in the graph is more about giving blasters marginally more dmg within the rages it already has.
Originally by: Koloch Blasters should remain ultimate close range in your face weapons.
While i agree with this somewhat you need to understand that they are not very "ultimate in close range" any more.
Originally by: Koloch The advantage blaster ships have over pulse is they are designed to work with a speed mod allowing them to move into their optimal range, the amarr ship can not dictate range. If I'm in a blaster ship I can care less about hitting further out. I want to get into range quickly and put the hurt on.
While that is great and maybe effective in 1 v 1 or very very limited numbers gang combat in eve makes it impracticable as even a gallente BS travels well under 1000ms (hype is 865ms) with top skills and a T2 mwd.
I honestly think that a boost to damage within blasters 10-20km range as shown in the graph (although AM should not be worth using over 10km) is the way forwards to make these ships useful in gang combat.
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Joe Logoffski
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Posted - 2009.03.01 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
I honestly think that a boost to damage within blasters 10-20km range as shown in the graph (although AM should not be worth using over 10km) is the way forwards to make these ships useful in gang combat.
The problem I see with that graph is that ACs are left in a very sad state, with pretty much no room to breathe against blasters as well as pulses.
Not a good solution imo.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.01 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/03/2009 21:01:52
Originally by: Joe Logoffski
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
I honestly think that a boost to damage within blasters 10-20km range as shown in the graph (although AM should not be worth using over 10km) is the way forwards to make these ships useful in gang combat.
The problem I see with that graph is that ACs are left in a very sad state, with pretty much no room to breathe against blasters as well as pulses.
Not a good solution imo.
That's what i'm trying to tell him to. But as you know, he's twisting and are trying to take the real points away from what we are talking about, so it's hard to really explain anything to him here.
I have tried very hard to explain that to him the last 12-16 pages that Autocannons will get obsolete if the blasters gets a boost like that.
But he wont listen.
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