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Kingwood
Amarr Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.05.13 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kingwood on 13/05/2009 11:49:50 So, if I understand you correctly, Trimutius:
You are pushing for this change, because you you want to stop all kinds of solo travelling and want to make it a requirement that people have to pay for a scout alt? Are you really serious?
If CCP implements this it will stop all kinds of solo roaming in 0.0, except for those with a big wallet (T3 bubble-immune probing Gankboats). Breaking all sorts of ships to push a ship class which is horribly out of whack with the rest of the game and currently only balanced by their price is pretty meh.
If this does get implemented I want to see Cov-Ops and Recons get bubble immunity also.
edit: Also, I see you're having fun gatecamping in 0.0. Maybe learn to decloak cloakers before running to the forums and complaining?
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Professor Perplex
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Posted - 2009.05.13 11:53:00 -
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ok i think they accidentally killed mwd + cloak while doing this:
Quote: Cloaking a Falcon while there is a jamming cycle in progress and the jammer has been deactivated will now result in an immediate break of the jam cycle on the targeted ship. To clarify: if you start a 20 second jamming cycle on a ship, then deactivate the jamming module and cloak, the jam cycle on the target will immediately cease.
this is from the patch notes for 1.2 that they are going to deploy.
CCP? can we get a Dev comment in here stating what exactly was the intended change and if you are aware that this effects all modules not just ECM ?
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Perplex
CCP? can we get a Dev comment in here stating what exactly was the intended change and if you are aware that this effects all modules not just ECM ?
lack of dev response is scaring me :S 0.0 will be really hard to move around solo in now, and tbh, anything that nerfs solo pvp is really, really bad for the game. Put in space whales!
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Lord Timelord
Point of No Return Blade.
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Perplex ok i think they accidentally killed mwd + cloak while doing this:
Quote: Cloaking a Falcon while there is a jamming cycle in progress and the jammer has been deactivated will now result in an immediate break of the jam cycle on the targeted ship. To clarify: if you start a 20 second jamming cycle on a ship, then deactivate the jamming module and cloak, the jam cycle on the target will immediately cease.
this is from the patch notes for 1.2 that they are going to deploy.
CCP? can we get a Dev comment in here stating what exactly was the intended change and if you are aware that this effects all modules not just ECM ?
What he^ Said!! __________
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Zostera
Minmatar Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:03:00 -
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Scaring me too now - I just bought two spare Rapiers :S
Zos
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Yldrad
The Dandy KillerS
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Perplex CCP? can we get a Dev comment in here stating what exactly was the intended change and if you are aware that this effects all modules not just ECM ?
Quote: If a ship cloaks, all active modules that modify attributes, such as ECM, will stop immediately and the icons showing the effect will disappear.
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Zostera
Minmatar Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Yldrad
Originally by: Professor Perplex CCP? can we get a Dev comment in here stating what exactly was the intended change and if you are aware that this effects all modules not just ECM ?
Quote: If a ship cloaks, all active modules that modify attributes, such as ECM, will stop immediately and the icons showing the effect will disappear.
GG CCP killing whole classes of ships with one ill conceived idea that didn't even make it to this forum.
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Professor Perplex
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:08:00 -
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could have sworn that wasnt there when i checked. :(
ok they wanted it like that.
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:18:00 -
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it scares me that a thread on a change that is likely to have such a massive effect on soloers has been completely ignored by the devs. |
Fulber
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:25:00 -
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The dev team reads this forum every day.
Honest they do. |
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:25:00 -
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So, CCP is going through with this. GG i guess.
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:32:00 -
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I feel so stupid i have two accounts paid for 6 months.
I guess i just have to log in and keep training skills.
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W3370Pi4
Caldari Lords Of Kaos
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: W3370Pi4 on 13/05/2009 12:52:31 Edited by: W3370Pi4 on 13/05/2009 12:47:08 so what use are the covert ops frigate now ? or even the blockade runners ? CCP please explain ? _______ Join the "BULK ML" Mailing list For bulk deals *Scam free* |
Amy Wang
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zostera
Originally by: Yldrad
Originally by: Professor Perplex CCP? can we get a Dev comment in here stating what exactly was the intended change and if you are aware that this effects all modules not just ECM ?
Quote: If a ship cloaks, all active modules that modify attributes, such as ECM, will stop immediately and the icons showing the effect will disappear.
GG CCP killing whole classes of ships with one ill conceived idea that didn't even make it to this forum.
QFT
especially the lack of any response on the forum along with the complete failure to acknowledge the serious almost game breaking side effects this has is really concerning and disappointing quite frankly
stop this ill conceived nerf now I say !
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Ribeye Jaksom
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:52:00 -
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I can't believe this is staying in. Let the bloodbath begin!
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:53:00 -
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WTB blobcamp Put in space whales!
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Zostera
Minmatar Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.13 12:54:00 -
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The irony of this when considered alongside the recent efforts to make Black-ops viable is creating some serious overload...
Who... exactly, is gonna take the cyno through the camp now?
Zos
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Dratic
Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dratic on 13/05/2009 13:01:44 This is one of the most half assed changes you have decided to bring in. You are encouraging the gatecamps of old to 0.0 entrances. You made the gates bigger so there was a bit more chance of not landing in bubbles for region gates but this change just moves the camp to the next system to system gate. Blockade runners covops and recons are the only ones which if u had a bit of skill could evade gate camps with. If this this is about battleships and t1 haulers getting through some poorly camped gate you really have lost yr perspective.
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kingwood Edited by: Kingwood on 13/05/2009 11:49:50 So, if I understand you correctly, Trimutius:
You are pushing for this change, because you you want to stop all kinds of solo travelling and want to make it a requirement that people have to pay for a scout alt? Are you really serious?
If CCP implements this it will stop all kinds of solo roaming in 0.0, except for those with a big wallet (T3 bubble-immune probing Gankboats). Breaking all sorts of ships to push a ship class which is horribly out of whack with the rest of the game and currently only balanced by their price is pretty meh.
If this does get implemented I want to see Cov-Ops and Recons get bubble immunity also.
edit: Also, I see you're having fun gatecamping in 0.0. Maybe learn to decloak cloakers before running to the forums and complaining?
No... That's not exactly what i wanted to say. First of all i'm not sure that Cov Ops cloak should be nerf... So if u want u may solo in Falcon, Arazu, Pilgrim or Rapier, it's seems quite sensible... Also Interceptors, Cov Ops and Blockade Runners do can go through... T3 ships as u mentioned... Plus Dictors and Hinctors may have bubble immunity... But everything else surely should be nerfed...
I'm not having fun while gatecamping, for the last year i was gate camping only 2 times, before that i was gatecamping a little bit more often, and sometimes in lowsecs... Much more often i need to go through camps in Ceptor, Cov Ops or Blockade Runner... Ceptors don't need cloak to go through so this nerf isn't about them, Cov Ops should not be nerfed IMO... I said about that several times...
And about alts... If u don't want alt just ask ur friend to help u with scouting, if u don't have friends, then i'm sorry EVE is a team-play game IMHO... Last time i needed a scout i asked my friend to scout me because i needed to travel with 3 alts at same time... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |
Jack Sparroxx
Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:04:00 -
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Well. CCP I sure as hell hope you guys take you head of of your ass for a change.
You guys are killing recons, covert op's frigs, blokcade runners and stealth bombers. No way in hell I'll ever go through a gate with a 200mill isk recon when chances are that I'll get decloaked on the other side if the enmey have just 1 half assed inty pilot.
And considering the prices on T2 cruisers now.. I really can't see that many willing to risk such an investment doing suicide runs.
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Aethalops
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mira O'karr people figured out a way to balance what CCP was not able to balance.
so now we have this situation and they intend to kill the one tactic that was a counter. where are the scissors to the paper if this change goes to TQ. seriously, i dont see it.
This: Yes, it's about balance. The current state of things requires that the player has some skill -- either to use the tactic effectively, or to catch someone who is using it effectively. Why would any game designer want to destroy a balance that can be achieved by players being required to do more than mass up and mash buttons? That is exactly the quality that distinguishes Eve from virtually all other MMOs.
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari Noir.
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:04:00 -
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Jesus H. Christ, this is NOT the kind of change you make without talking about it on the forums first. It makes sense not to have force recons jamming while cloaked. But if you make this nerf you will turn nullsec bubble camps into a death sentence for anything that hits them, including cloaky ships which should at least have a CHANCE to survive. This will allow gatecampers to paralyze traffic, and frankly, gate camping should be less encouraged, not more. As others have mentioned, if you do this then at minimum, covert ops cloak should now allow ships to ignore bubbles when they are warping (which means, yes, that you'd have to come up with something else for the 4th T3 subsystem).
Please resize your sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal |
Hertford
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:05:00 -
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sup CCP
Anyone home?
tap tap tap
Is this thing on? |
Matrix Skye
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Matrix Skye on 13/05/2009 13:15:14 HAHAHA!
CCP: "Travel in groups or you could... You know... Get a second account ."
Gatecamps Online for the win!
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Lady Miah
Silent Partners
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:13:00 -
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What's so upsetting about this is the thread has had no response from devs. Unacceptable. There were eight pages of discussion on this BEFORE the patch notes and a HUGE amount of the discussion was "don't implement this change". Now there's patch notes and you DANCED AROUND THE ISSUE by using ECM as an example. Way to be honest CCP!
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Pociomundo
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Pociomundo on 13/05/2009 13:17:24 This is so daft
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Jack Sparroxx
Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:16:00 -
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"sup CCP
Anyone home?
tap tap tap
Is this thing on?"
I doubt it, I'm pretty sure I heard a echo.. So clearly there is a pretty big void where most people have their brains.
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Fulber The dev team reads this forum every day.
Honest they do.
Look "Read" and "Write" or "Post"... This verbs seems a little bit different to me... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |
Shiu
EtE Clan Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:31:00 -
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Welcome to the age of cloaks having more downsides. Personally I love it, and I fly alot of cov-ops
WIN :D "This long run is a misleading guide to current affairs - In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes |
Hertford
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:31:00 -
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Was sure nice of CCP to make Blockade Runners worthwhile, being given covert ops cloaks. |
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