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Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:06:00 - [1231] Originally by: Ralph42nd Edited by: Ralph42nd on 20/11/2009 20:04:16 Wow, way to nuke another page. You do know it's being mirrored elsewhere right? Originally by: Kraken Kill Just do this. Motherships Get Dread Jump range. Motherships get 20 Drones at Lvl 5 carrier. Citadel torps AND Cruise get 1500 Explosion Radius, Torps (and compact get roughly 60ms explo velocity). Motherships get a EHP buff. Fighter Bombers (with 20 fighter bombers and lvl 5 fighter bomber) do roughly 8000 dps+ Motherships cant dock Motherships dont get build costs reduced Motherships lose triage and clone vat to balance the increased damage. Titans Get 5minute DD timer. Titans get the same damage as 2-3 Dreads (8-12k dps) with lvl 5 Titan. Naglfars dont get a split weapon bonus (the dread with 4! weapons should be doing the most damage. Currently the Nags artys with EMP (20 shots) has to reload every 5 mins, which is sooner than every other dread and it requires carrying more ammo types). Phoenix should get a 5% ROF damage bonus and a 5% bonus to ALL missile damage types. Cit Cruise and torps should have 1500m explo raduis, being make smaller with skills for the cruise so they are effective against large pos mods and small pos. Right now Turret ships can still hit medium and small pos mods for massive damage while missile dreads FAIL extremely FAIL at this. Do this and ALL problems will go away. Everything will be good. Harmony will spread out among the player base. This is TESTED BY THE PLAYERBASE and everyone was in agreement. Only your shortsighted Egomania felt that Capships being used aggressively was a bad idea. Also- I think you are out of line starting your post with a 'Lets see' as if the players are all idiots and have missed something. You CANNOT impliment ANY of these Titan changes if you are going to leave motherships as they are. You have also forgotten to do any work on Triage- It was said originally that Triage duration would be cut to 5mins and strontium consumption would be reduced. Why you feel Torpedos need something so bizarre as a 3000+ explo radius ive no clue, you are terrible for causing more problems with your problem ideas. /signed again and /signed again "We Choose to listen to the lies we don't want to hear. The truth is, you're already dead."
ERBOK	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:08:00 - [1232] Originally by: Kraken Kill Motherships Get Dread Jump range. Motherships get 20 Drones at Lvl 5 carrier. Citadel torps AND Cruise get 1500 Explosion Radius, Torps (and compact get roughly 60ms explo velocity). Motherships get a EHP buff. Fighter Bombers (with 20 fighter bombers and lvl 5 fighter bomber) do roughly 8000 dps+ Motherships cant dock Motherships dont get build costs reduced Motherships lose triage and clone vat to balance the increased damage. Titans Get 5minute DD timer. Titans get the same damage as 2-3 Dreads (8-12k dps) with lvl 5 Titan. Naglfars dont get a split weapon bonus (the dread with 4! weapons should be doing the most damage. Currently the Nags artys with EMP (20 shots) has to reload every 5 mins, which is sooner than every other dread and it requires carrying more ammo types). Phoenix should get a 5% ROF damage bonus and a 5% bonus to ALL missile damage types. Cit Cruise and torps should have 1500m explo raduis, being make smaller with skills for the cruise so they are effective against large pos mods and small pos. Right now Turret ships can still hit medium and small pos mods for massive damage while missile dreads FAIL extremely FAIL at this. Do this and ALL problems will go away. Everything will be good. Harmony will spread out among the player base. This is TESTED BY THE PLAYERBASE and everyone was in agreement. Only your shortsighted Egomania felt that Capships being used aggressively was a bad idea. Also- I think you are out of line starting your post with a 'Lets see' as if the players are all idiots and have missed something. You CANNOT impliment ANY of these Titan changes if you are going to leave motherships as they are. You have also forgotten to do any work on Triage- It was said originally that Triage duration would be cut to 5mins and strontium consumption would be reduced. Why you feel Torpedos need something so bizarre as a 3000+ explo radius ive no clue, you are terrible for causing more problems with your problem ideas. signed
Thrud Valkyries Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:09:00 - [1233] You are about to cancel your subscription! Are you sure you want to do this? Your account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 23.11.2009 23:59:47 Why are you cancelling? This will help us to improve our service. Player harassment If you want to elaborate further on your reason for canceling EVE, we would appreciate it very much. (optional) Thanks to CCP Nozh there is one less ms pilot in the game. Thanks alot, CCP. --- Subscription successfully cancelled Click here to continue
Ralph42nd Gallente Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:09:00 - [1234] Originally by: Commander Tigre Originally by: Ralph42nd Edited by: Ralph42nd on 20/11/2009 20:04:16 Wow, way to nuke another page. You do know it's being mirrored elsewhere right? Originally by: Kraken Kill Just do this. Motherships Get Dread Jump range. Motherships get 20 Drones at Lvl 5 carrier. Citadel torps AND Cruise get 1500 Explosion Radius, Torps (and compact get roughly 60ms explo velocity). Motherships get a EHP buff. Fighter Bombers (with 20 fighter bombers and lvl 5 fighter bomber) do roughly 8000 dps+ Motherships cant dock Motherships dont get build costs reduced Motherships lose triage and clone vat to balance the increased damage. Titans Get 5minute DD timer. Titans get the same damage as 2-3 Dreads (8-12k dps) with lvl 5 Titan. Naglfars dont get a split weapon bonus (the dread with 4! weapons should be doing the most damage. Currently the Nags artys with EMP (20 shots) has to reload every 5 mins, which is sooner than every other dread and it requires carrying more ammo types). Phoenix should get a 5% ROF damage bonus and a 5% bonus to ALL missile damage types. Cit Cruise and torps should have 1500m explo raduis, being make smaller with skills for the cruise so they are effective against large pos mods and small pos. Right now Turret ships can still hit medium and small pos mods for massive damage while missile dreads FAIL extremely FAIL at this. Do this and ALL problems will go away. Everything will be good. Harmony will spread out among the player base. This is TESTED BY THE PLAYERBASE and everyone was in agreement. Only your shortsighted Egomania felt that Capships being used aggressively was a bad idea. Also- I think you are out of line starting your post with a 'Lets see' as if the players are all idiots and have missed something. You CANNOT impliment ANY of these Titan changes if you are going to leave motherships as they are. You have also forgotten to do any work on Triage- It was said originally that Triage duration would be cut to 5mins and strontium consumption would be reduced. Why you feel Torpedos need something so bizarre as a 3000+ explo radius ive no clue, you are terrible for causing more problems with your problem ideas. /signed again and /signed again and again /signed
Psycho Lordling GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:09:00 - [1235] You are about to cancel your subscription! Are you sure you want to do this? Your account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 27.01.2010 14:33:14 Why are you cancelling? This will help us to improve our service. Player harassment If you want to elaborate further on your reason for canceling EVE, we would appreciate it very much. (optional) What the h**L kind of morons do you guys put in your dev crew? Get rid of Nohz Subscription successfully cancelled Click here to continue ---- The GM's in here do not seem to care about the players, but I bet the guys in Accounting do.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:09:00 - [1236] Confirming I'm cancelling my 31337 accounts due to this outrage. And my alt accounts too. And this time I mean it. Really. Not coming back. Now you'de done it.
Vadinho GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:10:00 - [1237] Originally by: Kalexander Come on lets be honest, plenty of these dev blogs contain posts by some of the people even posting in here saying "Please dont do this yet, wait and do it right". Now here they are, taking a feature and actually doing what some of us suggested and we flame the **** out of them for it? the titan changes went though, the mothership ones didnt this means a mothership will now be able to be killed by two, maybe three titan shots that seems like a pretty glaring oversight
Jack Gilligan THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:10:00 - [1238] Originally by: Toman Torax And more post deletions... Jesus H. Christ what a **ing **storm you have caused, CCP. Mass deletions and bans as a response to a highly unpopular publisher decision did nothing to help SOE with the NGE. In fact their actions made it even worse. They went ahead anyway and lost 200,000 subscribers within months. I see Dominion, as designed, being the "thin end of the wedge" with respect to a "NGE" of EVE, dumbing it down, nerfing it to death, so as to make it compatible with their "target audience" dream Dust514. I suspect that even more outrageous deadline driven changes to EVE will be forthcoming in the next months, Dominion is only the tip of the iceberg. Again, making such changes to an existing, hardcore MMO, which EVE is and SWG was, in the interest of going after players that you DONT have is almost certainly going to cost you players that you DO have. SWG crashed from having well over 200,000 subscribers to a state where they could increase their subscriptions 5 fold and not get back half of that. Do you want to lose 200,000 EVE subscribers just to attract 5,000 "konsole kiddz" that will dump your game into the used bin at Gamestop 3 months later? History can repeat itself when people choose to remain ignorant of it.
Li Na	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:10:00 - [1239] Originally by: Commander Tigre Originally by: Ralph42nd Edited by: Ralph42nd on 20/11/2009 20:04:16 Wow, way to nuke another page. You do know it's being mirrored elsewhere right? Originally by: Kraken Kill Just do this. Motherships Get Dread Jump range. Motherships get 20 Drones at Lvl 5 carrier. Citadel torps AND Cruise get 1500 Explosion Radius, Torps (and compact get roughly 60ms explo velocity). Motherships get a EHP buff. Fighter Bombers (with 20 fighter bombers and lvl 5 fighter bomber) do roughly 8000 dps+ Motherships cant dock Motherships dont get build costs reduced Motherships lose triage and clone vat to balance the increased damage. Titans Get 5minute DD timer. Titans get the same damage as 2-3 Dreads (8-12k dps) with lvl 5 Titan. Naglfars dont get a split weapon bonus (the dread with 4! weapons should be doing the most damage. Currently the Nags artys with EMP (20 shots) has to reload every 5 mins, which is sooner than every other dread and it requires carrying more ammo types). Phoenix should get a 5% ROF damage bonus and a 5% bonus to ALL missile damage types. Cit Cruise and torps should have 1500m explo raduis, being make smaller with skills for the cruise so they are effective against large pos mods and small pos. Right now Turret ships can still hit medium and small pos mods for massive damage while missile dreads FAIL extremely FAIL at this. Do this and ALL problems will go away. Everything will be good. Harmony will spread out among the player base. This is TESTED BY THE PLAYERBASE and everyone was in agreement. Only your shortsighted Egomania felt that Capships being used aggressively was a bad idea. Also- I think you are out of line starting your post with a 'Lets see' as if the players are all idiots and have missed something. You CANNOT impliment ANY of these Titan changes if you are going to leave motherships as they are. You have also forgotten to do any work on Triage- It was said originally that Triage duration would be cut to 5mins and strontium consumption would be reduced. Why you feel Torpedos need something so bizarre as a 3000+ explo radius ive no clue, you are terrible for causing more problems with your problem ideas. /signed again and /signed again whoops sorry seems my voice was taken away somehow and my vote was lost in the mail MS pilot for nearly a year how long have you flown in one you worthless POS /signed
Catari Taga Centre Of Attention Rough Necks	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:11:00 - [1240] Wow, 45 posts deleted alone while I was reading the last page. Yet the thread is still growing. At least Nozh is creating jobs for forum mods.
Orgell Evaan Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:12:00 - [1241] Originally by: Kraken Kill Just do this. Motherships Get Dread Jump range. Motherships get 20 Drones at Lvl 5 carrier. Citadel torps AND Cruise get 1500 Explosion Radius, Torps (and compact get roughly 60ms explo velocity). Motherships get a EHP buff. Fighter Bombers (with 20 fighter bombers and lvl 5 fighter bomber) do roughly 8000 dps+ Motherships cant dock Motherships dont get build costs reduced Motherships lose triage and clone vat to balance the increased damage. Titans Get 5minute DD timer. Titans get the same damage as 2-3 Dreads (8-12k dps) with lvl 5 Titan. Naglfars dont get a split weapon bonus (the dread with 4! weapons should be doing the most damage. Currently the Nags artys with EMP (20 shots) has to reload every 5 mins, which is sooner than every other dread and it requires carrying more ammo types). Phoenix should get a 5% ROF damage bonus and a 5% bonus to ALL missile damage types. Cit Cruise and torps should have 1500m explo raduis, being make smaller with skills for the cruise so they are effective against large pos mods and small pos. Right now Turret ships can still hit medium and small pos mods for massive damage while missile dreads FAIL extremely FAIL at this. Do this and ALL problems will go away. Everything will be good. Harmony will spread out among the player base. This is TESTED BY THE PLAYERBASE and everyone was in agreement. Only your shortsighted Egomania felt that Capships being used aggressively was a bad idea. Also- I think you are out of line starting your post with a 'Lets see' as if the players are all idiots and have missed something. You CANNOT impliment ANY of these Titan changes if you are going to leave motherships as they are. You have also forgotten to do any work on Triage- It was said originally that Triage duration would be cut to 5mins and strontium consumption would be reduced. Why you feel Torpedos need something so bizarre as a 3000+ explo radius ive no clue, you are terrible for causing more problems with your problem ideas. /signed. PS: The page count keeps bouncing around... I think there's a memory leak in the commenting system...
Yilo	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:13:00 - [1242] Your account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 08.12.2009 20:05:14 Why are you cancelling? This will help us to improve our service. Player harassment If you want to elaborate further on your reason for canceling EVE, we would appreciate it very much. (optional) CAPITALS ARE ******ED. copying a good idea
Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:14:00 - [1243] Oops there goes more posts that are relevant and constructive to this very game changing decision. Long live CCCP! "We Choose to listen to the lies we don't want to hear. The truth is, you're already dead."
Ronja Mistysdottir The Treehugger Corp	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:14:00 - [1244] You are about to cancel your subscription! Are you sure you want to do this? Your account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 03.12.2009 18:38:48 Why are you cancelling? This will help us to improve our service. Player harassment If you want to elaborate further on your reason for canceling EVE, we would appreciate it very much. (optional) Forcing us to bug test and fix the supercaps, just to kill it with a GM that knows nothing about the game? :CONDI: Nozh, costing the stock holders buckets of money every day... No wonder Icelands economy went to hell with people like this..
Hot Fudge Minmatar Sweet -N- Sticky	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:14:00 - [1245] It will be funny if this thread becomes a thread of account cancellation copy and pastes, lol. ========================= Sweet, sticky, and bad for your health.
Ralph42nd Gallente Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:15:00 - [1246] Originally by: Jack Gilligan Originally by: Toman Torax And more post deletions... Jesus H. Christ what a **ing storm you have caused, CCP. Mass deletions and bans as a response to a highly unpopular publisher decision did nothing to help SOE with the NGE. In fact their actions made it even worse. They went ahead anyway and lost 200,000 subscribers within months. I see Dominion, as designed, being the "thin end of the wedge" with respect to a "NGE" of EVE, dumbing it down, nerfing it to death, so as to make it compatible with their "target audience" dream Dust514. I suspect that even more outrageous deadline driven changes to EVE will be forthcoming in the next months, Dominion is only the tip of the iceberg. Again, making such changes to an existing, hardcore MMO, which EVE is and SWG was, in the interest of going after players that you DONT have is almost certainly going to cost you players that you DO have. SWG crashed from having well over 200,000 subscribers to a state where they could increase their subscriptions 5 fold and not get back half of that. Do you want to lose 200,000 EVE subscribers just to attract 5,000 "konsole kiddz" that will dump your game into the used bin at Gamestop 3 months later? History can repeat itself when people choose to remain ignorant of it. Quoting this to add my posts to the mass posts that are being deleted. **ing off your customers because your dumb is a bad idea, censoring them cause they are mad at your bad ideas is worse. Look forward to chapter 11 idiots
Vadinho GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:15:00 - [1247] Originally by: Catari Taga Wow, 45 posts deleted alone while I was reading the last page. Yet the thread is still growing. At least Nozh is creating jobs for forum mods. this thread would already be longer than the 'ccp doesnt know how nullsec works' thread from a few weeks back if they werent deleting pages of posts
Cedori Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:15:00 - [1248] The amusing part IMO, they are deleting the posts of people who are posting that they are canceling. Really? We truly have converted the EvE Forums into lokta.org, the circle is now complete. It is obvious Nozh has no idea how the game operates, nor how cap/supercap battles happen. As such he should not be within 10,000km of any decision regarding caps/supercaps. This post represents the views of me, myself, and I. Nothing said should be attributed to my corp or alliance, otherwise I might be whipped with a strand of wet-spaghetti!
Toman Torax Rage For Order Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:17:00 - [1249] DELETING POSTS ISN'T HELPING quite the opposite
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:17:00 - [1250] ccp you do know by deleting post that you are adding fuel to the fire, best way to get this over and done with is the adult way and tell us why you feel the changes to the moms should not happen other than its not what we want as the titan is not what you want but it is still going ahead is it due to the ninja nerf and the other threads. is it a case of you complain you don't get anything. we want to know why you are now doing these changes after all the hours of test/feedback done by the players in order to help you is that so worng we spent time to try and help you and you kick us for it. why are you not just going ahead with the changes then once out you can nerf them. the changes to missiles is just wack. there are load of us here doing post with information but you still have yet to tell us why your not doing these changes other then yes we wasted your time cos we changed our minds tought luck. ccp be smart talk to us tell us what you want allow us to reply and not just dev blog that have wrong information in it 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101
Fufinski	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:18:00 - [1251] Originally by: Cedori The amusing part IMO, they are deleting the posts of people who are posting that they are canceling. Really? We truly have converted the EvE Forums into lokta.org, the circle is now complete. It is obvious Nozh has no idea how the game operates, nor how cap/supercap battles happen. As such he should not be within 10,000km of any decision regarding caps/supercaps. Maybe he's family to some CEO's I've had in different jobs. Maybe they're trying to can all the operation and move everything to MUD221 or whatever that other thing they're getting ready is called. Tell us, were you ordered to do this by someone in CCP or are you doing this following orders from someone in the competition?
Riflektshon Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:19:00 - [1252] They are not deleting posts its a forum roll back
Shredded GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:19:00 - [1253] HEY CCP! KEEP DELETING POSTS! The playerbase will be happy if you can't hear them being unhappy, right?
Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:20:00 - [1254] Originally by: Shredded HEY CCP! KEEP DELETING POSTS! The playerbase will be happy if you can't hear them being unhappy, right? Confirmd! "We Choose to listen to the lies we don't want to hear. The truth is, you're already dead."
Kalexander	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:21:00 - [1255] Originally by: Cedori The amusing part IMO, they are deleting the posts of people who are posting that they are canceling. Really? We truly have converted the EvE Forums into lokta.org, the circle is now complete. It is obvious Nozh has no idea how the game operates, nor how cap/supercap battles happen. As such he should not be within 10,000km of any decision regarding caps/supercaps. He probably doesn't. Lots of people who work on video games don't really play the project they're on. That doesn't mean the entire design team that settles on decisions is as clueless as he is though. One guy isn't given that much authority. And yea, they probably delete those "i quit" posts because you and I both know those people are not really going to make good on it. They love this game still way to much to not at least see this through for a little while.
Grim Savage Caldari	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:21:00 - [1256] You are about to cancel your subscription! Are you sure you want to do this? Your account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 26.11.2009 23:42:52 Why are you cancelling? This will help us to improve our service. Player harassment If you want to elaborate further on your reason for canceling EVE, we would appreciate it very much. (optional) http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1217073 GM Nozh is making me sick.
Ralph42nd Gallente Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:21:00 - [1257] Originally by: Shredded HEY CCP! KEEP DELETING POSTS! The playerbase will be happy if you can't hear them being unhappy, right? QFT Keep deleting, never stop deleting, eventually we'll go away. Add this to your corporate home page, I'm sure you'll be fine. Right?
Darriele Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:22:00 - [1258] Quoting SISIPI Nozah from his previous failed blog: "As we said, roles are what matter. With these changes we hope to achieve a more balanced battlefield and synergy between the players and village idiots." But who are the "village idiots" because they are many and so far there is only one ?! have to paste my account cancelation to. SOONÖ
Ravenid Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:22:00 - [1259] I'm thinking they just dont want the page count to hit 40 pages. It probably wakes up the Senior Management.
Jack Gilligan THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY	Posted - 2009.11.20 20:22:00 - [1260] Originally by: Hot Fudge It will be funny if this thread becomes a thread of account cancellation copy and pastes, lol. Yeah, wish I'd pasted mine to Notepad. I had already canceled to take a month's break off as I said, as I am playing SWGEMU at the moment and was going to wait for Dominion to come out. But reading the Dev blogs of the past 2 weeks has pushed me towards not resubbing at all. I got banned once on my way out the door from the NGE by posting that I would not resubscribe until Pre-NGE was reinstated and John Smedley was fired. I'm thinking that I won't want to consider coming back to EVE until Nozh is fired. Well, maybe not fired, but at least demoted to something within his ability, such as CTRL+V'ing "Our logs show nothing" into petition responses. I'm beginning to think that CCP expanded way too fast. They hired just any old "Dev" to bulk up their numbers and didn't have much of a screening for competence, as evidenced by Nozh's ignorant writings about capital fights.

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