I guess, except this wouldn't be against other players, but some random NPC. It could even be some Empire NPC.
Unless I'm understanding the bounty system.

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It's a shame that this isn't on page 1.

none of this is remotely true, and evidences a complete lack of understanding of anything that has been discussed

Sorry, my misunderstanding. I thought you meant putting the bounty on an player.

none of this is remotely true, and evidences a complete lack of understanding of anything that has been discussed

Thanks - maybe I'll be making another thread on the isue next weekend one more time, but I'm growing tired of calling out the obvious for years without ever hearing a counter-argument and CCP being obviously deaf in that regard.

I'm growing tired of calling out the obvious for years without ever hearing a counter-argument and CCP being obviously deaf in that regard.

Really? Where do you get more time?

See also: every other nerf that's failed to push people into null.

I like the forward thinking used to include Dust in this equation. Can you post a link to this thread that you are referencing? I wouldn't mind giving it a read.

Thanks Nic.

It's really bad because instead of discussing ideas to improve space, idiots with no experience living in 0.0 infested the thread going on about how "local" was the barrier keeping people out, it made this thread look really productive in comparison.

it made this thread look really productive in comparison.

Now that is quite the feat.

Anyone want to start us off?

Remove local
Remove local
Remove local

And buff Black Ops
And Buff Black Ops
And Buff Black Ops

anyone who doesn't support this is bad at eve

While I like the idea of encouraging industry, I'm still rather unimpressed with the mindset of making things suck more to move people around.

0.0 is the actual game

highsec is basically like staying in riverwood and chopping wood for Hod

Well, I guess we can just go back to the removing local discussion to reduce our productivity.

Anyone want to start us off?

If people want to tool around in hisec forever, then fine, more power to you. You will, however, see more and more changes that lessen hisec income and content so new players stop getting stuck there as much. Crybaby hisec forum warriors are just gonna have to deal wiz it.

I don't know that removing local in and of itself is a solution to the root of the issue. I do like the ideas that were presented in this thread as it adds a level of immersion to the intelligence aspect of null sec as well as to high and low.

I would encourage you to at least read the OP in the thread and leave your comments Mors makes some good points and addresses them pretty well. It may not suit the Nuke Local crowd or the Leave Local Alone crowd but at least consider the proposition.

Personally I'd say there are better uses of time and bigger fish to fry, but the fundamental idea, in a vacuum, is sound.

On the subject of null industry. It makes absolutely no ****ing sense to me why Null Sec Alliances should be penalized for putting up infrastructure for refining and manufacturing. I think slots should scale with refining and manufacturing efficiency. Correct me if I am wrong but aren't there varying levels of sov? Like Sov Level 1-5? The higher Sov level the more slots and less waste with L5 being comparable to High Sec stations. Not sure how many slots your manufacturing or research addons provide but how many do you think would be appropriate. I am not sure an alliance would need as many as a high sec Empire station.

Malphilos: Since you've got CSPA on: moneymaking time.

This is why I'm more for increasing risk rather then nerf reward by removing NPC corps and fixing wardec evasion as well as boosting industry.
Because the issue at hand isn't merely making 0.0 more alluring to casual miners/small-indy players (although that is important too), but also make letting those carebears in more alluring to nullsec alliance leaders.

Briefly put, the amount of incentives that a nullsec alliance leader would need to replace just getting a handful of guys with freighter alts in NPC corps to just load up in Jita with all the supplies (sold at cutthroat, rock bottom wholesale prices) they could possibly need and autopilot down to the deployment system 100% risk free and replace that with thousands of PVP-averse bears who need lots of protection and are free to charge a far higher price, would be gamebreaking. Incentivising in-house industry as a desireable alternate to trade hub supply convoys necessarily means making supply convoys less feasible to do, and that involves investigating highsec logistics, because highsec and nullsec logistics are for the most part the same thing.

People moan about the nullsec logistics train that docks in a trade hub manhours of technetium and leaves with mandecades of low-end minerals to build things with, and how jump bridges help with that, but very few people question about why noone seems able to disrupt these highsec convoys despite these unprotected freighters taking nearly zero precautions.

- High barriers to entry for newer players/corps/alliances to move to null
- Not enough of a carrot to entice players away from highsec
- A lack of differentiated content in null vs. other areas of space.
- Current alliances entrenched in their space.
- Not enough reason for industrialists to be in null