Hey, if more people were asking questions and less people making uninformed walls of text, I'm sure a lot of us who actually know a thing or two about the topic would be making more positive and informative posts.

Posting on GD is usually like trying to empty an ocean of self-righteous stupidity with a spoon.

Honestly, if people want real constructive debate, go to kugutsumen and open a thread in the "serious discussion" subforum. It may be slower, but you'll get very, very informed and constructive posts from people of all secs.

[quote=dontbanmebro]blah blah blah

I know, I'm a masochist

The idea of nerfing jump bridges is not borne out of ignorance on my part.

The fact that you and your goon friends reacted so ridiculously to the thought of it was because it would make what you do now more difficult - which is the point. I live and fight in null sec and never use jump bridges. v0v

but don't mistake your lack of wanting an inconvenience to you as something that is good for EVE or in thinking you are more knowledgeable about the subject.

ban npc corps
nerf highsec station refining rate
overhaul 0.0 industry in general
add capital strip miner for rorquals that only works on low end ore

Yes, it wasn't at all obvious that you were utterly clueless and got embarrassingly stomped on for ten pages.

Repeat after me.

You cant force players into areas they don't want to go, nerfing hi sec isn't the answer (not if they want to keep players). Making low and null more enticing is, then everybody wins.

Tal

Repeat after me.

You cant force players into areas they don't want to go, nerfing hi sec isn't the answer (not if they want to keep players). Making low and null more enticing is, then everybody wins.

Tal

You cant force players into areas they don't want to go, nerfing hi sec isn't the answer (not if they want to keep players). Making low and null more enticing is, then everybody wins.

Oh yes it is.


Yes, let's take your words at face value, especially after you've gone from "you use the JBs to go 40 jumps and back again for a single tower" to "you use the JBs to freighter in ships to forward staging systems" to "JBs enable a way too quick home defense fleet response" within a few hours as your talking points were shot down, one by one.

Im trying to remember a time when small gang pvp in 0.0 was actually more than a myth

more ignorant bleeting that ignores reality
the career highseccer, petrified of loss, is not the target of a l4 nerf: it is the l4 alt of a 0.0 player

lol whatever it takes to make you sleep at night i guess. From my point of view jump bridges are bad for the population problem in null sec. Now, you may disagree with that opinion but that does not mean you are right and i am wrong because the fact is, we don't know as it hasn't been tried before.

What we do know is that CCP does agree that jump bridges are a concern

Disagree if you must but it doesn't make you 'elite' like you so desperately want to appear.

Why is the answer always to nerf hi sec (because that always forces players into low and nul ... not) . leave it alone and do something to low and null to make it more enticing.

[Moving large fleets and logistics over the vast expanse of space should take coordination and be a pain in the ass.
Removing/nerfing jump bridges is one way of accomplishing part of this.

I'm gonna stop you right here.

NO.

Making **** a pain in the ass or annoying does nothing to incentivize PvP or reduce NAP fests.

It makes people hate doing Logistical work and as a result either nothing gets done or people don't log on.

But if we buff null or lowsec, we get eve's economist slitting his wrist over the rampant inflation, and if we nerf L4s we get people like Malphilos saying that the idea something needs to be nerfed is a symptom of a base and mean intellect.

the idea nothing should be nerfed is stupid and wrong

going "well he wants to nerf something!" is therefore stupid and wrong

the question is the rationale for the nerf and if it holds up

Nope - they were ridiculously disagreed with but not shot down.

Moving large fleets and logistics over the vast expanse of space should take coordination and be a pain in the ass.
Removing/nerfing jump bridges is one way of accomplishing part of this.

Doing so I think will reduce mega blocs that we have today as anyone wanting pvp in null will not want to blue up all their neighbours as jumping 30 jumps for pew pew quickly becomes old.

If we buff nullsec/lowsec to incentivize people to move to low/null, eve's economist will slit his wrist over the inflation. If we nerf L4s people'll start running incursions again, and some'll move to low/null because the isk/risk reward is better than hisec.

But I'll take a capital mining barge which'll suck down 10x as much ore as a hulk as a replacement, no problem.

Easy access to null is a reoccurring theme.

Would more wormholes directly from empire to null be a good solution?

However, from what I've read here, nerfing high sec does nothing to fix what is really an infrastructure issue. It seems that Outposts need to be improved so that null sec can be more viable and profitable.

How about a marketing campaign then?

Come to nullsec, it's safer than you think.

Needs ponies, and rainbows to work.

People of general discussion - make it so...