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Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.29 12:19:00 -
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Nyla Skin wrote:Why in the blooming hell must CCP force that stupid leper skin look on every T2/navy ship??
Sleipnir looks like garbage now. Not sure what other ships you have managed to spoil with this color scheme yet..
Vaga looks crap now that you shaved it bald..
There you go......
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/06/28/jesters-trek-saturation/ |
Nova Soldier
ROMANIA Renegades
ROMANIAN-LEGION
6
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Posted - 2012.06.29 12:24:00 -
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After 5 min of playing from 60 fps in space i get 7 fps with only 1 account.
Same thing happens with 2 accounts, they both get 6-7 fps after a few min of playing.
This is before and after the "patch" to solve the graphical issue. |
Soldarius
TreadStone Standard
The 99 Percent
250
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Posted - 2012.06.29 14:32:00 -
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I was dual-boxing a major fleet engagement last night with brackets on. Had no lag or fps issues.
Running M4A89GTD/USB3 Pro MoBo, AMD Phenom II 965BE proc, ATI Radeon HD4890 GPU, and 4GB of RAM.
Also, thx CCP. We never even saw TiDi.
UI is fine. Its just different.
"How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive
Remix Technologies
300
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Posted - 2012.06.29 14:32:00 -
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Kayrl Bheskagor wrote:Dorna Loone wrote:Unified Inventory things I want to see fixed :
No 1 : LOOT CANS
These need to be a special 'type' operating a little differently to other inventory windows. I fact, they are already different since they have a 'loot all' button.
When a loot can is opened, have it open in its own window. Never, ever, open it n in a window being used to show some other inventory location.
Let me move it around and resize it where I please and then remember this for next time I open a loot can.
When the loot can is emptied, have the loot can window close completely. Do not switch its contents to show any other inventory location (eg., my cargo hold)
If I open multiple loot cans, open them as tabbed windows on the first.
There are others, but let's try baby steps. You have to hold shift and then it will open in it's own window. It will do this about 50% of the time, if you're lucky . . . .
I have found that there is a lag when doing this. You have to continue to hold down the shift key untill the window is done spawning. if you just shift+click, and immediately release shift, it will jack your current window instead of opening in a new one. |
Kim Blackstone
Booty hunter's
21
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Posted - 2012.06.29 15:00:00 -
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Glad to finally hear that CCP is working on the FPS issue. I may see daylight before my sub runs out.
Glad to also hear that CCP recognizes the magnitude of the UI problem. I can keep my mouth shut now and just give them moral support to overcome it. Everybody makes mistakes, it's the determination to overcome it that counts. If they are determined to use as much time as necessary to work on it, I don't mind waiting for as long as it takes to perfect it.
On the other hand, while reading this thread earlier, analyzing the problem with the UI, I thought of an idea, and would appreciate good input from you smart people in this thread. |
Chatton
0
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Posted - 2012.06.29 15:20:00 -
[366] - Quote
lol. where is my post? lol |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia
pwn-O-graphy
4
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Posted - 2012.06.29 15:47:00 -
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Still lagging like hell with multiple clients...
Sadly the game is not playable this way.... |
chez1962
The 20th Legion
Mildly Sober
0
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Posted - 2012.06.29 16:50:00 -
[368] - Quote
well my fan from my vid card making overtime when i use 2 accounts now 
FIX IT CCP |
Dorna Loone
Dark Star Demolition
13
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Posted - 2012.06.29 17:13:00 -
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F**k shift/clicking - it's a LOOT CAN - it only needs to function in the way I described.
Are ccp geting a kickback from Logitech et al for wearing keyboards / mice out faster ? What happened to 'intuitive' operation ? |
Kayrl Bheskagor
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.06.29 17:15:00 -
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Well, it appears a response comes to posters from CCP when you congratulate them on something completely inane or useless, like a new suit in the AURUM store. Anything else, vague or nothing, or they delete your posts. CCP doesn't want the reality of their terrible patch efforts as seen from teh player side, they're only interested in things that apparently fit their rose coloured glasses. Checked the player and account numbers lately? ;)
At any rate, I figured out the fix for the lag, and it'll work for EVERYONE. I know, no thanks required. :) All you have to do is set ALL the graphics to low or off. Turn off all the special effects, every one of them, and Eve becomes MOSTLY playable.
Now, i haven't been able to fully test this since stumble/update 1.1.5, because now the client doesn't log in at all. I run the repair, and it says nothing is wrong, but Eve still won't connect. Actually, i had to UPDATE the repair app FIRST. Maybe some dev can explain how that resource sucking virus/updater, DOESN'T update ALL the Eve files?? IF the updater ran behind the scenes, as a TSR, THAT might be useful. An updater that doesn't update, is useless, like, the new inventory.
So, if I can't log in and top up my training ques, i get that time back, right? Loading up the skill que for a few extra days to be safe for a Tuesday patch is one thing, but daily patches, that are busted, 4 days later - hard to plan for, ESPECIALLY when the lag makes the game basically an IMAGE rather than something that can be interacted with. So, take your time :) Just make sure you compensate the players (you know, the people that PAY to play??) for all the setbacks YOU cause :) |
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Aroye
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.06.29 17:36:00 -
[371] - Quote
T1 Minmitar ships are now colored too much like Amarr ships. The detail work is nice but I think the color is wrong, it should have been more copperish, like the old version. |
DazedOne
The Crabbit
S O L A R I S
122
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Posted - 2012.06.29 17:49:00 -
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CCP I have done my best with your new UI. I have even set up a new corp hanger similiar to what I had prior to this new UI debacle. I also set up a new ship hanger and a new item hanger so I do not have to deal with that horrible tree interface. However, this is where things get annoying, To have what I used to have now I get lag when I dock up or log on because of the worthless loot calculator you have. Make that optional or get rid of it because it is completely inaccurate. All it does now is add unwanted lag while serving no purpose in its present state.
Please rewrite the code so whenever I click the items tab I don't see my ships cargo hold. If I wanted to see that I would of clicked to see that. We are forced to try and get similar old UI usability back but in doing so are forced to get lag because of it. Lets be realisitc, if you want to know an items value all you have to do is view market details to see its worth which is far more accurate than that worthless loot calculator that does nothing but lag when you have tons of assets. |
azurefox
EVE University
Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:40:00 -
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CCP, I don't know what you changed today but as soon as I load EVE. my GPU fans start going wild.
GPU usage shoots up to 99% on both of my GTX 580 3gb's...
GPU Memory Usage doesn't exceed 600mb, so it's not my in-game settings, which I haven't changed.
Performance was fine before today's patch.
waiting to die is not living |
Kim Blackstone
Booty hunter's
23
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:56:00 -
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I just logged in, and found that today's patch improved my fps to 80% of what it was before. It's playable for me now! 
Thanks for the good work, keep it up! |
Pat0chan
Fake World
26
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Posted - 2012.06.29 19:43:00 -
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Can run 3 accounts at the time now, still laggy but big improvement.
My fan is running crazy tho.
Keep up the good work CCP.
We want our favourite game back on track.
;) |
Certis
Spaced Cowboys
21
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Posted - 2012.06.29 21:15:00 -
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Dorna Loone wrote:F**k shift/clicking - it's a LOOT CAN - it only needs to function in the way I described.
Are ccp geting a kickback from Logitech et al for wearing keyboards / mice out faster ? What happened to 'intuitive' operation ?
Yes well said, and this is just one more indicator that most of the sucks praising this abomination of a Windows File Manager UI are obviously playing this game in a very limited way/ Perhaps if they tried out a few more aspects of the game like serious mishing etc, they might very well have a totally different opinion. |
Bridgette d'Iberville
DeadStar Marauders
31
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Posted - 2012.06.29 21:40:00 -
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I have only one UI related request. When I loot a container in space, can the inventory window please close automatically? The UI opens because I'm taking something. Once it's taken, I don't really need to look my inventory.
Neut the bastards |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation
Deadly Unknown
351
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Posted - 2012.06.29 21:56:00 -
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I am trying to salvage right now. I used to be a very profitable ninja salvager before the Crucible overview changes screwed with my workflow. I have salvaged thousands of wrecks.
This new UI is absolutely terrible for salvaging. Atrocious. Embarrassingly bad.
Shame on you CCP. You guys really suck. It's beyond lousy that you guys have screwed up the UI this bad, and refuse to fix the real issues with it, instead trotting out Soundwaffe to tell us to read the Patch notes, like we're too stupid to do that or that what you're addressing in any way is one of the fundamental issues that were raised when this was on Sisi.
I like the game, but you've made it crappy to play. You're unaccountable to your players, and frankly, really incompetent based on how you have handled this, from testing, to patching. I don't know how else to express myself except I have time left on my subs, and I am considering starting a social media campaign to shame you into fixing your mess.
This isn't just me, it's hundreds of players with these issues. Fix it.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
257
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Posted - 2012.06.29 21:57:00 -
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Not enjoying the muddy, ultra-dark Minmatar ship models at all. I understand that when all of the fancy graphics settings are turned up in a game, things usually look darker (more shadows, etc.), but what was done to the Minnie Fleet of Rust is visually unpleasant.
OS: Win7 Ultimate 64-bit
GPU: GTX560 Ti (latest drivers)
Screen: 1600x1200 LCD
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Knalldari Testpilot
13
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Posted - 2012.06.29 22:48:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Lag: again
Stop touching whatever in that inventory stuff, at each patch you add more lag, not thank you for this. Can I get back my money for all the time I can't play or wasted behind the screen trying to play "Lag-On-Line" ?
Seriously, try to play on TQ some day, or should we move on to china/japan server?
Sorry to state that but...
China Server is down since a while. Thats why CCP added language support for chinese players so they have to play on tranquility.
Dennie Fleetfoot wrote:So I was at the Newcastle meet last night.
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They know they screwed up with the UI. And they are determined to get it fixed and don't care how much dev time it takes away from other things to do so. And I believed them. They have to. They know players are unhappy with it and they have the data to show it, feedback like the forums, petitions, bug reports and feedback from un-subbing players.
The old UI is NOT coming back or being rolled back. It is genuinely impossible to do so as so much other cool stuff in Inferno is built upon it. There was some other stuff mentioned about UI development which for the reasons I've already said I'm not going to repeat here. But I'm now confident that UI will be a suitable replacement for what we had before. It's just a matter of how long it will take.
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Just for your information:
The "new shiny" ingame jukebox with added playlist support wasn't working for me for more than 15 months since it hit TQ in unfinished/untested state until it was fixed silent without any comment on the patchnotes.
Its a shame for CCP to replace working stuff with new code that wasn't ready to release and untested from QA.
And as a personal sidenote from me:
The inventory is a way more important(!) part of the game and the new GUI is still in beta state. A huge drop in FPS with every
opened window. And multi boxing is a mess in the current state. And at this point i dont talk about the Unified Inventory, i point at the whole Graphical User Interface.
The buggy Jukebox in the past could easily be bypassed by me with OOG use of WinAmp. And now try to find a workaround for the laggy/buggy new GUI... There is none! 
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Knalldari Testpilot
13
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Posted - 2012.06.29 23:09:00 -
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Knalldari Testpilot wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Lag: again
Stop touching whatever in that inventory stuff, at each patch you add more lag, not thank you for this. Can I get back my money for all the time I can't play or wasted behind the screen trying to play "Lag-On-Line" ?
Seriously, try to play on TQ some day, or should we move on to china/japan server? Sorry to state that but... China Server is down since a while. Thats why CCP added language support for chinese players so they have to play on tranquility. Dennie Fleetfoot wrote:So I was at the Newcastle meet last night.
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They know they screwed up with the UI. And they are determined to get it fixed and don't care how much dev time it takes away from other things to do so. And I believed them. They have to. They know players are unhappy with it and they have the data to show it, feedback like the forums, petitions, bug reports and feedback from un-subbing players.
The old UI is NOT coming back or being rolled back. It is genuinely impossible to do so as so much other cool stuff in Inferno is built upon it. There was some other stuff mentioned about UI development which for the reasons I've already said I'm not going to repeat here. But I'm now confident that UI will be a suitable replacement for what we had before. It's just a matter of how long it will take.
... An example from the history of EVE Online: The "new shiny" ingame jukebox with added playlist support (introduced with "Dominion" in December 2009) was not working for me for more than 18 months since it hit TQ in unfinished/untested state until it was fixed silent without any further comment on the patchnotes in July 2011 (Incarna). And as a personal sidenote from me: The inventory is a way more important(!) part of the game and the new GUI is still in beta state. A huge drop in FPS with every opened window. And multi boxing is a mess in the current state. And at this point i dont talk about the Unified Inventory, i point at the whole Graphical User Interface. The buggy Jukebox in the past could easily be bypassed with OOG use of WinAmp. And now try to find a workaround for the laggy/buggy new GUI... There is none! Conclusion: Its a shame for CCP to replace working stuff with new code that wasn't ready to release and untested from QA. Also there was no deadline to push it on TQ! Also i am not willing to pay a subscription for all of my 4 active accounts for more than one year (more than Gé¼500) until the devs getting this mess fixed and working. Sorry...
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Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation
Deadly Unknown
355
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Posted - 2012.06.30 00:38:00 -
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Dennie Fleetfoot wrote:They know they screwed up with the UI. And they are determined to get it fixed and don't care how much dev time it takes away from other things to do so. And I believed them. They have to. They know players are unhappy with it and they have the data to show it, feedback like the forums, petitions, bug reports and feedback from un-subbing players.
The old UI is NOT coming back or being rolled back. It is genuinely impossible to do so as so much other cool stuff in Inferno is built upon it. There was some other stuff mentioned about UI development which for the reasons I've already said I'm not going to repeat here. But I'm now confident that UI will be a suitable replacement for what we had before. It's just a matter of how long it will take.
Thanks for this, but what are we supposed to think, when Soundwaffe says in the last week, "look at the patch notes" and there isn't a damn thing on there that is a fundamental issue with the UI?
I mean, sure they want to fix it. Let's say I believe that. They aren't showing any indication that they even know what's wrong.
That is the entire problem. This culture of being stoic about their screwups is nonsense. It's also crazy that we need someone to go to a live event to report this stuff back to us because they are so miserable about communication with customers.
Thank you btw, you've added more value to this thread than anyone, player or CCP.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
GodsSoldier Aideron
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
29
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Posted - 2012.06.30 01:09:00 -
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you guys at ccp may must have a pretty hard core reason for keeping this piece of sht unified inventory!!! there is NO way anyone from ccp could actually sign in, undock, and loot and salvage 50-60 wrecks and say that this isn't a fkn disaster STILL, even after the fifty patches we've had!!!! i can only play eve by paying with in game money... i mission run and buy plexes to pay for my 2 characters. no way can i be able to run the missions needed to buy plexes like i used to do every month because a large part of making money mission running is all the loot and salvage... no fkn way i could do it with this mess of a system... FRAME RATE LOCK-UP, MISSED CLICKS, ETC.. its painful,,, come on ccp u guys have never had such a huge negative response about one thing for so long.... this has to be changed, its not even close to acceptable considering we PAY you to play this game!!! |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2012.06.30 02:04:00 -
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Knalldari Testpilot wrote:*snip*
Also i am not willing to pay a subscription for all of my 4 active accounts for more than one year (more than Gé¼500) until the devs getting this mess fixed and working. Sorry... NEVER be sorry about speaking with your wallet to address a service that does not live up to your expectations. It is your hard earned currency, after all.
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Dorna Loone
Dark Star Demolition
16
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Posted - 2012.06.30 02:09:00 -
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As I've had a couple of rants / moans here about the Unified Inventory, it's only right that I post when things that have annoyed me have been remedied or improved.
The station Corp Hangars were a real problem. Now though having opened them all with shift/click and then stacked them they
are staying stacked. Provided I minimise (not close) the stack, clicking any corp hangar in the UI opens the full stack.
Only problem comes if I accidentally close it instead of minimising as I can't find any quick way to get them back. However, just undock / dock at that, or any, office station restores all the corp hangars, stacked and tabbed as does loging off / re-log.
As bonus (for me, anyway) the corp hangar stack is automatically opened whenever I dock in a station with a corp office - so no need to click anywhere!
Whilst It's different to how it used to be, I can most certainly live with this.
THANKS CCP DEV's. Whilst it isn't all plain sailing yet, you are obviously taking notice of your customers on these issues. |
Dorna Loone
Dark Star Demolition
16
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Posted - 2012.06.30 02:43:00 -
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I only worked out how to deal with the new UI for Corp station Hangars, in my post above, by experiment.
There must be a good case here surely for a News / Login link to a thread where CCP staff can post details of the fixes, and how to use them, relating just to the Unified Inventory.
After all, If you don't tell people a fix is there and how to use it there isn't any point in making it. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.06.30 03:13:00 -
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Braxus Deninard wrote:While I agree that so many patches can be a very slight annoyance, the percentage of people with very slow internet such as yourself is extremely small,
And how exactly would you know that?
And what would you class as "very slow"? For instance, I live in one of the UK's major cities and my average d/l speed is 1.1Mbps. |
mjgvjbk
Rio Tinto Jnr
Bluescope Mining
22
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Posted - 2012.06.30 03:59:00 -
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I'd like to know when the Devs are coming to Australia, I'd like to show them Belanglo State Forest and just incase no one knows why read this What should happen to eve devs
I'm not really sure Hilmar P+¬tursson understands what customer service really means. Maybe he should read
the complete idiots guide to managing 101
At the end of the day everyone seems to be blaming the devs but lets face it the devs get told what to do, now most coders have an idea how something should work but unless they actually play eve then its not going to really work out too well. The only person that needs a cold water enema is Hilmar P+¬tursson, like crucible he fuked that up too and now inferno he's ultimately responsible the buck stops with him.
So Hilmar P+¬tursson puker up ginger and touch ya toes its cold water enema time. |
Dawiid BenAimaic
Dasa Fern Valley Jamaican Rum Transport Corp
29
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Posted - 2012.06.30 04:49:00 -
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I am so very sad right now. 3 FPS in Jita. Sometimes less than 1 FPS. And that was with the sound and special effects turned off. I know that it is an old computer with only 1 CPU. I have filed a bug report. I cannot leave Jita, my warp engine is not working.
My account expires on July 11th, you have that long to get it working. If it is not working by then, I will not renew. I am very sorry that i am unable to upgrade to a better computer at this time.
I am so very sad right now because I really do enjoy this game.
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Logicycle
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
48
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Posted - 2012.06.30 06:01:00 -
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Just stopped by to remind CCP that the the Unified Inventory is still a piece of $HIT compared to the functionality of the the old system. And you still have a very long way to go if you think that you are going to bring this new inventory up to par with the old one. |
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