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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.18 06:25:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:So you want a HS profession that provides risk free PVP whenever you want? Because you're upset that a HS profession you don't like has (as you claim) access to risk free PVP whenever you want? Okay... Wrong again. Hunters of Can flippers aren't pvping isn't risk free, canflippers have guns and can their own backup, don't be a moron. Canflippers were the only ones able to operate risk free, CCP is fixing that. Defenders advantage in high sec makes perfect sense against greifers. Apparently CCP doesn't agree with your narrow minded philosophy. I'm so glad they are forcing can flippers to finally take risks now. Can't wait to blow up some can flippers in my Flipper Ripper, my new pvp profession. Everyone knows that can flippers tears are so much delicious than miner tears. High sec pvp is going to be GREAT! Crimewatch is brilliant.
Nope. Look into the crimewatch mechanics. People shooting at suspects can only be shot at by the suspect they are shooting at. No calling in backup for the suspects.
Canflippers (even if we accept your claim that they're EVE Criminals) are not griefers. CCP's made that very clear.
Defenders already have every advantage. Starting with the absolute ability to decline the fight.
Again, you're just excited about a risk-free PvP source.
Finally [insert rest of my last post here] since you feel like skipping most of my post just because it's inconvenient for you to rebut. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2012.08.18 06:33:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:
. People shooting at suspects can only be shot at by the suspect they are shooting at. No calling in backup for the suspects.
Even your first line is easily proven as being wrong.
There is nothing to stop suspects for using their own alts and corpmates in the fight.
Sit down pipa, you just look like a complete fool at this point. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1696
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Posted - 2012.08.18 06:37:00 -
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I remember when there was real piracy in lowsec.
Is the approach that CCP is planning on a bit ham-handed? I would have to agree.
But we also have to admit that the way kills are gained in this game also got ham-handed.
It's kind of like that law in most US states for hunters that states you cannot have a magazine exceeding 5 rounds. Why is that? Many people wonder. It's to discourage people from going yank and crank on a running deer after they miss their first shot. This is hazardous.
My point is, that law exists because it happened too many times.
Low sec and gate camping may have once been viable. I remember lowsec in better days. But, like hunters with 30 round magazines doing the yank and crank, the gate camps have departed from "piracy" and degenerated into "kill everything that moves".
Lowsec has become like the parking lot around the Mall in the movie "Dawn of the Dead". Nice and quiet, until some living flesh shows up.
What's the point? There is no point in that.
So the real trouble with lowsec is that it has become pointless. It had a point, piracy, back when it was possible. But it's now the parking lot full of zombies, just as AFK as high sec miners until "the call goes up" so 8 Hurricanes and the sensor boosted intie can go after that T1 cruiser.
Did the pirates in actual history (earth) kill everything that moved? The Carribean would have been a wasteland if they did that. There would be no investement and trade in the region.
Back in they day, the "pirates" didn't bother with noobs - not much. Sometimes you got blapped. But I missioned all over low in my noob days. The idea back then was, let the little nooblet earn his wings, and then someday when he's doing that 15KM gauntlet to the gate (perchance no WTZ BM) , the little nooblet is a big boy now, and DOES know better, or will in a moment.
Now it's "someone jumped in!!!1! lock lock woot get the pod get the pod LOL NOOB GBTW lozer phag!!1!" pfft
Mature people, knowing all of the rules of engagement to such people, still chose not to have their time sullied by the presence of such mindset. I can probably get across the trailer park and fight better than everybody I meet, but it's still a fight on a short bus where everybody is going to the same special little school house.
Why bother?
I gave up gates. I use WH to get where I want to go. Just spent 2 months in deep null. Got a hole back to k space in lowsec. WH spat me into the system, and here comes the brigade, wondering how I got there and a small fleet jumping back and forth through the one gate they thought I was going to use (as if I was in a hurry - why are people so damned stupid?). 10 people in T2 and T3 trying to catch my T1 Cyclone (yet it survived null, alone, with scratches).
Then I remember the time someone tried to station camp me with a Nyx....
They didn't get me, but it still feels pathetic. Makes me wonder what kind of game I am playing, and with what kind of people.
The real pirates of this game are long gone. Maybe the OP is a holdout from this era and has a legitimate gripe. CCP may be trying to fix a symptom, not a problem in itself. But we already have years of countless "low is broken" threads that appear to be forgotten anyway.
A sorrry situation all around. |
Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.18 06:40:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
. People shooting at suspects can only be shot at by the suspect they are shooting at. No calling in backup for the suspects.
Even your first line is easily proven as being wrong. There is nothing to stop suspects for using their own alts and corpmates in the fight. Sit down pipa, accept that you lost this argument. Accept being a loser. You've got nothing.
Nope. The crimewatch information has been clear on the fact that Suspects will only be able to shoot at those who shoot at them (and likely not even to Logi of those shooting them, though they backed off from that). Nobody else will be able to join in without CONCORD intervention. So, let's assume the suspect brings in RR, you can keep him tackled until you get reinforcements to tackle all these free Logi killmails.
So, to recap: Suspects: Can be shot by everyone. People shooting at suspects: Can be shot only by those they're shooting at. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
801
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Posted - 2012.08.18 06:49:00 -
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The idea of SUSPECT flagged pilots getting shot by LOW SEC gate guns is ******* stupid.
Does that mean that HI SEC suspects get shot by gate guns too?
It not, then the LOW sec ones shouldn't shoot suspects either.
Completely awful.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
529
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Posted - 2012.08.18 06:53:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:The idea of SUSPECT flagged pilots getting shot by LOW SEC gate guns is ******* stupid.
Does that mean that HI SEC suspects get shot by gate guns too?
It not, then the LOW sec ones shouldn't shoot suspects either.
Completely awful.
The idea is sound
If you are a suspect law enforcement shoot at you.
You should be bitching if you get shot at and you are not a suspect. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1273
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:02:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:The idea of SUSPECT flagged pilots getting shot by LOW SEC gate guns is ******* stupid.
Does that mean that HI SEC suspects get shot by gate guns too?
It not, then the LOW sec ones shouldn't shoot suspects either.
Completely awful. Maybe highsec suspects should be shot by gate guns. Just because you don't trigger CONCORD doesn't mean the gate guns should give you a free pass.
Good idea ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:05:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
. People shooting at suspects can only be shot at by the suspect they are shooting at. No calling in backup for the suspects.
Even your first line is easily proven as being wrong. There is nothing to stop suspects for using their own alts and corpmates in the fight. Sit down pipa, accept that you lost this argument. Accept being a loser. You've got nothing. Derp.
reread the bolded line. And, ever heard of defenders advantage? Its high sec, and the bottom line is, CCP doesn't agree with your half-baked myopic vision of what you think EVE is supposed to be. You've got nothing. |
Pipa Porto
795
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:06:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Bloodpetal wrote:The idea of SUSPECT flagged pilots getting shot by LOW SEC gate guns is ******* stupid.
Does that mean that HI SEC suspects get shot by gate guns too?
It not, then the LOW sec ones shouldn't shoot suspects either.
Completely awful. Maybe highsec suspects should be shot by gate guns. Just because you don't trigger CONCORD doesn't mean the gate guns should give you a free pass. Good idea !
Bonus Nerf to Freighter/Hauler ganking.
What a great idea. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:08:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
. People shooting at suspects can only be shot at by the suspect they are shooting at. No calling in backup for the suspects.
Even your first line is easily proven as being wrong. There is nothing to stop suspects for using their own alts and corpmates in the fight. Sit down pipa, accept that you lost this argument. Accept being a loser. You've got nothing. Derp. reread the bolded line. And, ever heard of defenders advantage? Its high sec, and the bottom line is, CCP doesn't agree with your half-baked myopic vision of what you think EVE is supposed to be. You've got nothing.
You mean, besides CONCORD? You're right.
But, by that reasoning, there's nothing stopping anti-canflippers now from joining in fights against canflipper's they don't have aggro on. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
529
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:09:00 -
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Just as a funny idea why don't the pirates go hunt the pirates? or is it a problem that pirates might shoot back Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Pipa Porto
795
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:10:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Just as a funny idea why don't the pirates go hunt the pirates? or is it a problem that pirates might shoot back
This change will prevent pirates from hunting pirates, cause the Gate guns will kill everyone in short order. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
660
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:10:00 -
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Maybe stargates, should just have their own cans out, filled with oil and other parts. Then you can can flip them, and pvp against their sentries. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
529
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:11:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Just as a funny idea why don't the pirates go hunt the pirates? or is it a problem that pirates might shoot back This change will prevent pirates from hunting pirates, cause the Gate guns will kill everyone in short order. Well maybe they could stalk each other in belts, around planets or moons for a change.
Edit: They say a change is as good as a holiday, so say thank you to CCP you pirates Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:23:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
. People shooting at suspects can only be shot at by the suspect they are shooting at. No calling in backup for the suspects.
Even your first line is easily proven as being wrong. There is nothing to stop suspects for using their own alts and corpmates in the fight. Sit down pipa, accept that you lost this argument. Accept being a loser. You've got nothing. Derp. reread the bolded line. And, ever heard of defenders advantage? Its high sec, and the bottom line is, CCP doesn't agree with your half-baked myopic vision of what you think EVE is supposed to be. You've got nothing. there's nothing stopping anti-canflippers now from joining in fights against canflipper's they don't have aggro on.
yet again you display your limited thinking.
thats the risk you take in being a can flipper now, its going to get fixed with crimewatch. Its called risk vs reward, this is EVE. Deal with it. Can flippers will still be able to attack anyone that attacks them. There is nothing to cry about.
I guess you don't understand the game enough to realize that CCP is fixing can flipping and all this patch does is benefit the game. I'm pretty sure CCP is making EVE, not you. thank goodness.
Additionally, can flippers have always been reliant on others attacking them. To now complain about can flippers not being able to initiate attacks in high sec is pretty moronic. Adapt and L2P, scrub. Seal clubbing days are over!
I'm off to bed now so have fun arguing with everyone about how you think the sky should be black. |
Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:40:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
You mean, besides CONCORD? You're right.
But, by that reasoning, there's nothing stopping anti-canflippers now from joining in fights against canflipper's they don't have aggro on.
yet again you display your limited thinking. thats the risk you take in being a can flipper now, its going to get fixed with crimewatch. Its called risk vs reward, this is EVE. Deal with it. Can flippers will still be able to attack anyone that attacks them. There is nothing to cry about. I guess you don't understand the game enough to realize that CCP is fixing can flipping and all this patch does is benefit the game. I'm pretty sure CCP is making EVE, not you. thank goodness. Additionally, can flippers have always been reliant on others attacking them. To now complain about can flippers not being able to initiate attacks in high sec is pretty moronic. Adapt and L2P, scrub. Seal clubbing days are over! I'm off to bed now so have fun arguing with everyone about how you think the sky should be black.
Good job with the out of context quoting. Try again tomorrow.
The Crimewatch patch exclusively benefits carebears. It's yet another in a long line of nerfs to HS PVP. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1273
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:47:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:The Crimewatch patch exclusively benefits carebears. It's yet another in a long line of nerfs to HS PVP. Highsec PvP, getting all the love and attention from CCP. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Pipa Porto
795
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Posted - 2012.08.18 07:55:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:The Crimewatch patch exclusively benefits carebears. It's yet another in a long line of nerfs to HS PVP. Highsec PvP, getting all the love and attention from CCP.
Fun Fact: Crimewatch Safe Freighting limit becomes 5+b (breakeven cost to gank ~1b for the Nados, ~1.5b for the Suicide Suspect Freighter, doubled to account for 50% drop rate). EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
smokeAjoint
No Self Esteem Imperius Legio Victrix
6
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Posted - 2012.08.18 11:42:00 -
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/Signed. -álegalize it |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
659
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Posted - 2012.08.18 13:27:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Just as a funny idea why don't the pirates go hunt the pirates? or is it a problem that pirates might shoot back This change will prevent pirates from hunting pirates, cause the Gate guns will kill everyone in short order.
Null sec has no gatge gun, this is a good news. Low/0 sec characters don't belong to high sec, they should have been banned for a long while from there. It's about consequences of a choice, witch seems they don't have much other than lol consequences and then cry on forums.
I'm far more concerned about low sec low/null SS residents, those in high sec can biomass or gtfo I don't care and the game will be much better without them: more dudes tired of high sec grinding is more dudes willing to come to low/null, thus more dudes to play with or shoot at.
For low sec low/null SS residents the system should remain as it was before, they only get shot if they get aggression timers. Then gate guns, well there are other tactics they can use, smart players don't see much of a problem about this. brb |
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.18 21:25:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Just as a funny idea why don't the pirates go hunt the pirates? or is it a problem that pirates might shoot back This change will prevent pirates from hunting pirates, cause the Gate guns will kill everyone in short order. Null sec has no gatge gun, this is a good news. Low/0 sec characters don't belong to high sec, they should have been banned for a long while from there. It's about consequences of a choice, witch seems they don't have much other than lol consequences and then cry on forums. I'm far more concerned about low sec low/null SS residents, those in high sec can biomass or gtfo I don't care and the game will be much better without them: more dudes tired of high sec grinding is more dudes willing to come to low/null, thus more dudes to play with or shoot at. For low sec low/null SS residents the system should remain as it was before, they only get shot if they get aggression timers. Then gate guns, well there are other tactics they can use, smart players don't see much of a problem about this.
If you want to prevent Outlaws from entering HS, you are free to do so. They are outside of CONCORD's protection. That is the consequence of their choice. They also get chased by Faction police, limiting the types of ships they can effectively fly. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
drunk asfck
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:37:00 -
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Signed
gate guns are fine as they are how about fixing some stuff rather than messing with things that dnt need it
someone sack this greyskull dude ffs
only changes to gate guns imo is you should be able to destroy them |
Scott PiIgrim
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:14:00 -
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I vote for not doing anything with sentries! |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
534
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:20:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: I'm far more concerned about low sec low/null SS residents, those in high sec can biomass or gtfo I don't care and the game will be much better without them:
Given the numbers of hi-sec dwellers, if they gtfo there is no game. Well CCP would benefit from Dust being linked to EvE, so I suppose it could probably afford its server costs but definitely no devs to fix anything. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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