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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1226
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Posted - 2012.08.03 11:46:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Sure, I'll make a note to have another look at this and get some more player feedback when we start finalizing the designs.
I do like the 'escalating' dps idea, but would you consider making it 'escalate' to its current level of damage, thereby allowing small ships to get tackle and remainin on grid long enough for slower locking ships to take over
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Harvey James
Prospero's Sight
7
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Posted - 2012.08.03 11:49:00 -
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so will this remote repping suspect flagging happen in HS or does this only affect lowsec? |
SenshiMaru
Tri-gun
Lost Obsession
22
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Posted - 2012.08.03 11:52:00 -
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At this rate, null-sec will have GCC, gate guns, and Concord by next June. You're ******* stupid, CCP. |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
59
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Posted - 2012.08.03 11:57:00 -
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Misanth wrote:Tara Read wrote:What does this mean? Essentially it is led up to interpretation but anyone "suspect" hence anyone with negative sec status will essentially be fired upon in low sec. GCC no longer becomes applicable and fights on gates now will be reduced to under 5 minutes or until all aggressor's are destroyed. CCP want to force all lowsec inhibitants into FW. Welcome to Blob Online, where smallscale gameplay is hated by the devs.
Blob Online has always been around since the days of BoB and even before Capitals. The sad underlying fact is that there is hardly anything that drives players TO low sec. Unless you're a dirty, greedy old salt who desires the dangers of low sec it's pretty much moot.
Let me ask everyone here. IF these were to be implemented what then? There still would be little desire for players to head to low sec for any permanent basis besides maybe missions or sites. Yet even those are lack luster compared to the profits to be had in Null.
Yet we all know who's hands are always in the cookie jar when it comes to dominance over the resources that drive New Eden and why the market remains terribly inflated. 80 Million isk Drakes? Anyone remember when they were 30 by chance?
Low Sec NEEDS to bring something worth while to players. It needs to be appealing for either minerals, or sites. Something that Null sec doesn't have. This will inspire growth and interest. It will bring forth better combat as well!
Think about it. New corps or operations vying for control over new minerals or something of value all the while dealing with the risk of those willing to haunt said systems.
The problem simply is there IS no reward for the risk. CCP needs to change that. Not because we want juicer targets But because Low Sec now provides an opportunity to break the monopoly on the markets and give others a chance to stake their own claim without dealing with G00NS or Nulli Secunda or TEST etc.
And even then we take no sides with said people. We fight em all. Hell we even provide protection (for a price). Point being is Low Sec could be the breath of fresh air people have been waiting for....
Instead of tinkering with gates to keep people out of Low Sec we need to reinvigorate reasons to bring people in.
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Cameron Cahill
Paranoid.
87
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Posted - 2012.08.03 11:59:00 -
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The escalating damage thing is a good idea. The amount of damage is whats stupid. with the increasing damage and the amount you are proposing it do, the guns will start alphaing battleships in about two minutes not including previous damage/player agression. This is thoroughly stupid. And don't be stupid and try and do sig related damage on that kind of level. An mwding bs (as all are) has roughly the same sig as a carrier.
There is nothing wrong with the current damage levels, just make it so the guns have tracking issues with frigates if you really want to bring them in to gate combat. |
Medarr
ZeroSec
5
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:01:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Sure, I'll make a note to have another look at this and get some more player feedback when we start finalizing the designs.
Uhhh so what you want is for us pirates to not only be shot in highsec by navy and other players but also by sentry guns in lowsec.. our NATURAL habitat?... Did you get ganked by pirates or something?
Seriously.. worst idea since WiS... wanna have riots on your hands again... do this... |
Aranial
Empyrean Warriors
The Obsidian Front
6
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:02:00 -
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/signed
I like my bit of low-sec pew pew, be it on a gate or at an asteriod field. This will just kill all small roaming gangs and solo pvp on gates. I thought CCP wanted more PvP not less? Wouldn't this change be rather counter productive?
Here's hoping it doesn't come to pass. |
Sexy Cakes
Poasting
21
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:02:00 -
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Please keep discussions about the CSM 7 Summer meeting minutes in the appropriate place. Having feedback in one place is much more productive and will allow for better discussions than having the feedback scattered all over our forums.
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Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
61
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:07:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Sure, I'll make a note to have another look at this and get some more player feedback when we start finalizing the designs.
Before finalizing anything (and I'm sure I speak for everyone here) we'd like more details on this "escalation" feature that's to replace the current system. Will this system penalize you for being a negative sec status without aggression? Will it time out once you warp away like GCC or remain there under certain conditions?
See there is just no details provided which creates confusion and sadly negativity off the bat even if the concept may in the end be good.
As far as this scaling damage up to 5 minutes it just won't work. You will end up killing off any sort of decent fights to be had in Low Sec if you do this. NO one ever puts a capital on a gate. And if they do it's because their stupid and will end up dying anyways.
Again if you want to invigorate and drive people into Low Sec make it unique. Give it something Null or High Sec doesn't have. Make the reward worth the risk. Give players opportunity. Shutting out the people that make it interesting will only escalate the problem instead of enhancing the experience.
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Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
61
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:09:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:Please keep discussions about the CSM 7 Summer meeting minutes in the appropriate place. Having feedback in one place is much more productive and will allow for better discussions than having the feedback scattered all over our forums.
CCP Greyscale replied here. I'm certain the discussion is perfectly fine where it is now.... |
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SenshiMaru
Tri-gun
Lost Obsession
22
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:09:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:NO one ever puts a capital on a gate. And if they do it's because their stupid and will end up dying anyways.
As a Triage pilot, I disagree. Triage goes where the fleet needs it.
But I agreed with everything else in your post.
Yes, gate guns are a necessary evil in low-sec, and in my opinion their DPS was pretty laughable in anything larger than a battlecruiser. The scaling damage is an interesting idea to solve, but the damage does not need to scale to the extreme that CCP have stated in the CSM meeting. |
Ahura Dracul
Isk Sinkers
0
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:11:00 -
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In eve people need stations and gates and for a majority of time nothing else from a solar system and at the sametime people hate gatecamp and station games mechanics. Real fix isn't changing those mechanics but to introduce a reason for players to go anywhere else in a system and thus bringing the pvp out of gates and stations. If you wanna see other players you have maybe 10000 times better chance finding them at station/gate than at a belt for example. but thenagain we could rename eve online to gatecamp online... maybe it's such a key component in eve gameplay we really can't change it without too many tears. |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
61
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:12:00 -
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SenshiMaru wrote:Tara Read wrote:NO one ever puts a capital on a gate. And if they do it's because their stupid and will end up dying anyways.
As a Triage pilot, I disagree. Triage goes where the fleet needs it. I agreed with everything you said up until that statement.
I'm talking about a lone person. As in one single capital trying to camp on it's own. Not with a support fleet behind it. Sorry should have clarified. That and it is 5 am.. x//x
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Sexy Cakes
Poasting
21
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:13:00 -
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The best part would be to see a carrier thats like 1000 times the size of a gate gun get wrecked in 4.5 mins.
Well thought addition to eve online Greyscale lolol |
Kage Toshimado
TunDraGon
19
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:18:00 -
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/signed
But then again, I unsubbed all of my accounts when unified inventory came out. I'm just counting down the remaining days. If this actually takes place... I feel for all of the low sec pirates. |
Medarr
ZeroSec
5
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:22:00 -
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Lowsec is now officially Dead...
Its game over man..
GAME OVER..
WHAT ARE WE GONNE DO MAN...
ITS GAME OVER!... |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
62
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:23:00 -
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Medarr wrote:Lowsec is now officially Dead...
Its game over man..
GAME OVER..
WHAT ARE WE GONNE DO MAN...
ITS GAME OVER!...
Play Guild Wars 2?  |
Medarr
ZeroSec
5
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:24:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Medarr wrote:Lowsec is now officially Dead...
Its game over man..
GAME OVER..
WHAT ARE WE GONNE DO MAN...
ITS GAME OVER!... Play Guild Wars 2?
Damn stop breaking the internet with your valid and sensable responses!!!! |
Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
37
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:25:00 -
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I always tought that damage should scale, but the proposal is too simplistic. I think damage should start low, grow a bit but not up to the point where it can kill a carrier in 4 minutes. Maybe the guns should start applying ewar after a few minutes, dampening the ships etc after 4 minutes (making impossible to tackle anything not stupidly slow).
On my eyes the gate camping downfall was when warp to zero was implemented. the gate camps changed side of gate, because a fast lock game and very boring, Also they now were needed to be there all time, not out of grid then warp in etc...
CCP must think and find other oportunities and locatiosn for piracy. |
Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING
En Garde
65
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:25:00 -
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Why do I feel that the whining about Low sec and high sec PvP has become a broken record, with the same things being whined about for years.
Seriously, 1 thread is enough. |
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John Kony
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:27:00 -
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My name is John Kony and I approve of these pirate tears. |
Megnamon
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
25
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:27:00 -
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/Signed by a concerned citizen |
Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
37
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:27:00 -
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Ahura Dracul wrote:In eve people need stations and gates and for a majority of time nothing else from a solar system and at the sametime people hate gatecamp and station games mechanics. Real fix isn't changing those mechanics but to introduce a reason for players to go anywhere else in a system and thus bringing the pvp out of gates and stations. If you wanna see other players you have maybe 10000 times better chance finding them at station/gate than at a belt for example. but thenagain we could rename eve online to gatecamp online... maybe it's such a key component in eve gameplay we really can't change it without too many tears.
That is why I always defended that the HIGH end belt ratting should be in low sec not 0.0. 0.0 shoudl have the best scanneble sites, adn low sec shoudl have Battleships paying up to 2 mil on belts.
That would solve SEVERAL issues with low sec. |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
65
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:27:00 -
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Medarr wrote:Tara Read wrote:Medarr wrote:Lowsec is now officially Dead...
Its game over man..
GAME OVER..
WHAT ARE WE GONNE DO MAN...
ITS GAME OVER!... Play Guild Wars 2? Damn stop breaking the internet with your valid and sensable responses!!!!
It's not my fault I swear! But damn does wielding a Greatsword as a Warrior look bad ass. Sorry. I've played both GW 1 and Eve since middle school and their the only two games I keep coming back to.
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Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
65
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:28:00 -
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Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:Why do I feel that the whining about Low sec and high sec PvP has become a broken record, with the same things being whined about for years.
Seriously, 1 thread is enough.
It isn't whining when you are having a thoughtful discussion that could actually benefit players. Try again. |
John Kony
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:29:00 -
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all i hear reading that is 'WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAA! MUMMY DADDY'S BEING MEAN!' |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
65
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:30:00 -
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Megnamon wrote:/Signed by a concerned citizen O...oh S@%T. It just got real people 
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Medarr
ZeroSec
5
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:30:00 -
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Seriously tho..
fix negative rep first.. Give us pirates a way to regain our sec standing without having to grind 100s of rats in low/0.0 otherwise your screwing over a large part of the pvp population... |
John Kony
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:32:00 -
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Medarr wrote:Seriously tho..
fix negative rep first.. Give us pirates a way to regain our sec standing without having to grind 100s of rats in low/0.0 otherwise your screwing over a large part of the pvp population...
Stop getting low sec status then? go do real pvp in null instead of ganking defenseless industrials.
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Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
65
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:32:00 -
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Medarr wrote:Seriously tho..
fix negative rep first.. Give us pirates a way to regain our sec standing without having to grind 100s of rats in low/0.0 otherwise your screwing over a large part of the pvp population...
Why would you want to gain sec status?  *psst* Make an alt account for all your carebear needs! |
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