Rigs

Added the Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I
12% reduction to the duration of ice harvester cycles.
Calibration cost: 250

whatever happened to the new ORE mining frigate they were supposed to be bringing out? what a let down...

procurer strip miner is only 2800m3 per cycle is 1400m3 thats on 2x bonus not the 3x in description

thats with stripminer 1 and mining upgrade 2

whatever happened to the new ORE mining frigate they were supposed to be bringing out? what a let down...

Scheduled for the winter release!

Description says "200% bonus to Strip Miner yield" ?

then why announce it with your 'summer update' program?? http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72890

Now that we've had a good glimpse of how the new balancing system works in practice, we want to speed things up and deliver the following for winter.

In the devblog, it clearly states that this is our balancing plan for winter?

Development
The mining barge was designed by ORE to facilitate advancing the mining profession to a whole new level. Each barge was created to excel at a specific function, the Procurer's being durability. With that in mind, the designers could only make space to fit one mining or ice harvesting module. To mitigate the effect this would have on the ship's mining output, they came up with a unique loading system that allows this one module to work at triple efficiency.

My Mistake is 3x on ice mining only.

When I try to launch Eve, I get the error message, cannot update while evefile.exe is running. The whole game won't boot up, and therefore won't update. suggestions??

then why announce it with your 'summer update' program?? http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72890

So, when all of this is going out you ask? These changes will be out by the time the winter expansion hit, which will leave us in a very good shape to start overhauling tech 1 cruisers and battlecruisers next year, possibly earlier if things go well.

X = 10
X * 100 % = 20
x * 200 % = 30

---

X=10
X*2 = 20
X*3= 30

100% increase is a increase of factor 2. Hope that resolves some math questions.

in no way is it made clear that the ORE frigate is for winter release, and it doesnt even make sense given the timing of this update...

am i wrong?

So, when all of this is going out you ask? These changes will be out by the time the winter expansion hit, which will leave us in a very good shape to start overhauling tech 1 cruisers and battlecruisers next year, possibly earlier if things go well.

They didn't....from the link you provided

Yea thats great no explain how my strip miner that pulls 1400m3 per laser only gets 2800 @ 200%

then why is the post called 'ship balancing summer update'? and CCP announces soon after that they plan to review destroyers over the winter. this implies that T1 frigs would have been sorted by this patch.

I can't. Ask CCP.

I can't. Ask CCP.

X = 10
X + X * 100 % = 20
X + X * 200 % = 30

If you try to search on a character name, it fails with an error saying there is no local cache to search. I can't create a private contract to another character, because EVE can't find the character name.

Exploration & Deadspace

GÇó Some DED 3/10 sites allowed battleships to enter, now they cannot

Was the intention to not allow Battlecruisers too ?

e.g

Angel repurposed outpost will now not allow a hurricane, yet it willl allow a loki or tengu and other Tech 3 strategic cruisers which are surely stronger and carry more firepower.

Seems pretty silly TBH

case (ship_type like 'battle%')
do ship.lol_disallowed
...

Were there any intentional changes to anomaly respawns? I've been down in nullsec (Provi) scanning the system for the last 15 minutes and not one anomaly has respawned in that time.

Exploration & Deadspace

GÇó Some DED 3/10 sites allowed battleships to enter, now they cannot

Was the intention to not allow Battlecruisers too ?

e.g

Angel repurposed outpost will now not allow a hurricane, yet it willl allow a loki or tengu and other Tech 3 strategic cruisers which are surely stronger and carry more firepower.

Seems pretty silly TBH

Another bat in nuts of nul sec player or just ccp make.

As all of drone region site (herds squad horde patrol) no longer respawn after they been ran got several pocket of system that have miltary lvl 5 and ran them site and now no more site so they got no source of income i mean i know you want people too mine but maybe this goes to far.

if you could fix this as 0 isk an hour is big nerf too drone region player

Assuming the old DED size limits are still in place, a 3/10 should at maximum allow cruiser sized ships, 4/10s allow BCs and 5/10s allows BSs. So it might be a case of working as intended and is certainly one of the reasons why T3's are so popular in exploration.

"then why is the post called 'ship balancing summer update'? and CCP announces soon after that they plan to review destroyers over the winter. this implies that T1 frigs would have been sorted by this patch."

It was an update made in the summer to CCP's ship balancing plans, not an update to the game. They were, with a post made in the summer, updating us as to what they intended to do in the winter.

English is the only language where the sentence "Sit down and sit up." makes sense.

See my previous post, this is an issue that we're looking into.

FYI Greyscale, I assume you already have been notified, but this might be related to an incursion issue, none of the incursion sites are respawning, have about 4 or 5 different incursion channels all reporting that not a single site VG-HQ is respawning.

Yup, we're seeing the same thin, it's being looked at

same goes for FW plexes, they seem not respawning as well

Have they tried turning it off and on again? I bet that will fix it

There is a bug on my hulk, I can't change out the crystal, it says there is no room in the cargo hold.

I checked the cargo hold and it shows my 27 crystals in it, all safe and sound, but shows the capacity at 675/350, clearly there is some mistake here.

CCP, I think you might have forgotten something? (Hint, try to find that rig or to make a link to it in a chat window)

There is a bug on my hulk, I can't change out the crystal, it says there is no room in the cargo hold.

I checked the cargo hold and it shows my 27 crystals in it, all safe and sound, but shows the capacity at 675/350, clearly there is some mistake here.

When I try to launch Eve, I get the error message, cannot update while evefile.exe is running. The whole game won't boot up, and therefore won't update. suggestions??

I can't. Ask CCP.

Corp hangers for CEO, Directors, not working, you click Corporation Hangers and nothing happens...

:edit: yep, its the Director role thats frakkin everything up.

There is a bug on my hulk, I can't change out the crystal, it says there is no room in the cargo hold.

I checked the cargo hold and it shows my 27 crystals in it, all safe and sound, but shows the capacity at 675/350, clearly there is some mistake here.

HULK FOR SALE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Faction Warfare plexes aren't respawning.

Hey SoundWave Clarification Please

this is being looked into

Added a Settings tab into all Inventory windows that allows players to make all secondary Inventory windows open up in a new window as the default behavior, making it unnecessary to hold the Shift key.

Where is this setting, exactly?

Anomalies are not spawning in system after patch. only crap ones. can some one explain plz : )?

That would all be in the wording.

x=1400
1400 = 100% of the mining lasers yield.
Therefore 2800 = 200% of said mining lasers yield.

An INCREASE of 200% would mean 2800 more in this case. However simply stating it yields 200% means it is 2800, or double. (2 x 100%)

A wizard did it.

A wizard did it.

A wizard did it.

Anoms not respawning.

Corp hangers for CEO, Directors, not working, you click Corporation Hangers and nothing happens...

:edit: yep, its the Director role thats frakkin everything up.

Dear CCP,
I am experiencing a massive frame rate drop when using multiple clients since the patch.

I run 3 clients and with 3 ships in space (zoomed out) I am getting a frame rate of between 14 and 20, averaging about 18 FPS.

The main problem is if i have ship(s) in station, the clients with ship(s) in station are hogging all the frame rate, see below.

1 ship in station = average of 30 fps for that client and for the 2 ships in space (zoomed out) = an average of 13 fps for those 2 clients.

2 ships in station = average of 20 fps for those two clients and for the 1 ship in space (zoomed out) = an average of 8 fps for that client.

I have tried turning off the station environments and that helps a bit, see below.

1 ship in station (static) = average of 40 fps for that client and for the 2 ships in space (zoomed out) = an average of 16 fps for those 2 clients.

2 ships in station (static) = average of 32 fps for those two clients and for the 1 ship in space (zoomed out) = an average of 15 fps for that client.

3 ships in station (all three with station environment turned off) = average of 28 fps

Please fix this, please please please

Thank you
Regards
zerokmatrix

Ore Hold Issue

i just mined 25 ice blocks in my retriever and took them out into main hangar.
when i tried to put them back in it said "No more units in source location" and only allows me to put 23 of them back in

Maybe the ice blocks melted a wee bit and expanded? :)

If they melted they would shrink...

After patch... in Captain's quarter my character is missing stuff... like feet, hands, face and torso (completely - there's no clothing or skin).

Restarted client...

She got torso back (but just with shirt, not with the coat) and in exchange lost her pants (yes - she was butt-naked)... also - now she also was missing the arms completely. And still missing face and feet.

Restarted client and comp...

Everything else is back - but missing torso (but got the coat). Torso is missing completely (no skin either), but with the coat on (you can see torso missing from the neck).

With another alt (also female), same thing...
With 2x Male alts = no issues so far.

Also - my character suddenly changed hair color (from blonde seen in pucture to dark) and when viewing from mirror in captain's quarter she's bald with a tiny mohawk... .


Writing a bugreport...

- JF -

In the german client, the tooltip on weapons doesn't show the falloff-value due to too long text:
screenshot

I think the "innerhalb von" isn't really necessary here.

I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3

I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3

then why is the post called 'ship balancing summer update'? and CCP announces soon after that they plan to review destroyers over the winter. this implies that T1 frigs would have been sorted by this patch.

I reported this for the 1.2 version on SiSi (bug number 141974) but I'll repeat it here as it is my only pet hate with the Uni Inv (which otherwise works fine for me and I like it).

Basically, when you open the Uni Inv primary window - if you have the 'My Filters' tab closed/minimised, the Index Tree's width is not remembered for the next time you open it and when you open it the second time, it defaults to ~really narrow~.

Then, every time I open the Uni Inv, I have to grab the thin divider and widen it. Everytime. It just makes me all :sadface:

The workaround is to leave the 'My filters' tab unminimized, which I'd rather not have to do.

Other than that it's all gravy.

I believe the idea was the Hulk was ship for use in teams not 'solo'. Also it was announced it would be this way in devblog.
:tears:

I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3

why only 8500 m3 in ore cargo on hulk when lvl 3 mining mission got 9000 m3

When I log in, the log in process gets to Preparing Data, loads a bit of the bar and then the client crashes, and doesn't open again. Running the repair tool does nothing, and I already cleared the cache. I saw someone had the same problem (won't let me link) but they didn't post how they fixed it in their thread. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?

No one?

I believe the idea was the Hulk was ship for use in teams not 'solo'. Also it was announced it would be this way in devblog.
:tears:

Reboot?

Exploration & Deadspace

GÇó Some DED 3/10 sites allowed battleships to enter, now they cannot

Was the intention to not allow Battlecruisers too ?

e.g

Angel repurposed outpost will now not allow a hurricane, yet it willl allow a loki or tengu and other Tech 3 strategic cruisers which are surely stronger and carry more firepower.

Seems pretty silly TBH

Hi

My download of Inferno 1.2 appears to have become corrupt. Every time i run the launcher, it starts at step 2/4 to create a patch, hangs at 15%, and then fails.

It presents me with the option of getting the full launcher and downloading the whole game again, which I just simply cant do!

Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the downloaded patch info, re-download the patch, and try the process again??

Thank you in advance.

"then why is the post called 'ship balancing summer update'? and CCP announces soon after that they plan to review destroyers over the winter. this implies that T1 frigs would have been sorted by this patch."

It was an update made in the summer to CCP's ship balancing plans, not an update to the game. They were, with a post made in the summer, updating us as to what they intended to do in the winter.

English is the only language where the sentence "Sit down and sit up." makes sense.

After patch... in Captain's quarter my character is missing stuff... like feet, hands, face and torso (completely - there's no clothing or skin).

Restarted client...

She got torso back (but just with shirt, not with the coat) and in exchange lost her pants (yes - she was butt-naked)... also - now she also was missing the arms completely. And still missing face and feet.

Restarted client and comp...

Everything else is back - but missing torso (but got the coat). Torso is missing completely (no skin either), but with the coat on (you can see torso missing from the neck).

With another alt (also female), same thing...
With 2x Male alts = no issues so far.

Also - my character suddenly changed hair color (from blonde seen in pucture to dark) and when viewing from mirror in captain's quarter she's bald with a tiny mohawk... .


Writing a bugreport...

- JF -

ok joking aside

there is one small problem for me


After making use of this lovely [really I like it a lot] new NeoCom feature for mission runners while docked in station to turn in the mission and then request another mission the Journal icon in the left hand NeoCom linkage area still does the blinky thing as if I didn't do this on purpose and had no clue that something in my journal had changed...

having to clicky the journal icon and then clicky the X to close it seems to defeat the purpose of the new feature....

The text in chat , station names in space and in the ui is displaying either as solid blocks or dots, not all the text (except chat is all blocks ). Station name starts as text and ends as small dots.

Tal

The text in chat , station names in space and in the ui is displaying either as solid blocks or dots, not all the text (except chat is all blocks ). Station name starts as text and ends as small dots.

Tal

Anoms not respawning in Vale

I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3

why only 8500 m3 in ore cargo on hulk when lvl 3 mining mission got 9000 m3

Nope. Why? You're an idiot.

The Hulk's new "role" is as a fleet member - not out solo mining. You're to be expected to have your extra crystals sitting in an Orca or a mining-tender hauler, NOT sitting in your own hold. Welcome to the brave new world of actually having to be in actual mining fleets, not massive multi-boxed setups where you push one button occasionally and retarget every cycle.

AND FIX THE F**KING CORP HANGAR BUG ARGH!!!!

this is being looked into

EVE Online: Inferno 1.2 has been deployed successfully.

somethings up with the orders window?

i used to be able to pull the Buy order section up all the way to the top or bottom of the window for more orders to be listed

but now it stops at 5 sell orders from the top.

like so:
[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2zf3goj.jpg[/IMG]

There is now a minimum height for the SELLING and BUYING sections within the Orders tab of My Wallet, to prevent breaking the window.

Before patch my hurricane's scan resolution was 1410 and now its 975 using 3 sensor boosters with resolution scripts and 3 t1 resolution rigs.

X = 10
X * 100 % = 20
x * 200 % = 30

---

X=10
X*2 = 20
X*3= 30

100% increase is a increase of factor 2. Hope that resolves some math questions.

This change is stated in the patch notes, this is working as intended.

No, no. 100%=100 out of 100=1.
If X=10 then X*100% also means X*1, which means that X*100%=10.
X*200%=X*2=20.
Learn to math.

is eve running for anyone? im getting unknown status

why only 8500 m3 in ore cargo on hulk when lvl 3 mining mission got 9000 m3

Any known reason for the server down?

is the corp hangar thing being fixed in this reboot

corp directors not being able to access corp hangars isn't exactly something trivial

the ore hold is a small benefit to what ends up being an increase in micro management required to mine in fleets.

Yeah they are fixing the anom bug

Yeah they are fixing the anom bug

http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?newsTitle=tranquility-server-reboot-at-20-35-utc-on-august-8

X = 10
X * 100 % = 20
x * 200 % = 30

---

X=10
X*2 = 20
X*3= 30

100% increase is a increase of factor 2. Hope that resolves some math questions.

The ore hold isn't even a net benefit since you fill it up in less than two full cycles maxed out, anyway (unless you're mining ice, and then you do get two full cycles :) )

Honestly, these are 'issues' that DID get brought up during testing in SiSi - a number of people complained about the cargohold sizes for exactly the same reason. It's been done this way by design.

Do feel free to disagree with the design change, but it's how CCP has decided they want max 'level' mining to be managed - as a more cooperative, fleet approach. If it also forces a bit of TIME LIMITATION, specialization, more targeted mining when a given mining group goes out, whelp, sorry about that. So you can 'only' target 4 types of ore and have the number of crystals on hand that you're accustomed to having - too bad, so sad. You still get to suck ore down for a while, and then you :GASP: get to take a break!

zomg.

Honestly, I have a couple mining toons myself, and I do kinda see where you're coming from with regards to having your options being a bit more limited. I also, in my experience mining, never saw the need to carry more than a single extra set of crystals for the 2 or 3 types of ore I was mining, and any other extras I kept in my Orca. Which, interestingly, can be argued is how CCP wants mining to be done now - Orca/Mining Tender + Mining fleet, and extra crystals are held in the hauler until needed.

[quote=Rex Augustus][quote=Mos7Wan7ed]crystals where already pain in ass when you had opened next can and moved back to cargo hold they all move and ore get lost right at the bottom which was huge pain in ass ore hanger fixed this thou hulk is like TON more isk worth that ret.. it takes less than 1 month to fly a ret and they buffed the noobies yet.... people who played for long time done all the training to use t2 crystals they nerf to crap.. why...
this makes t2 crystals a pain to use if your flying more than few ships

want a crystal hanger please... atleast hold a full set of crystals.. its not a big ask..
just makes life easier.. since you think afker mack ice miners now have 45min afk mine... yet us hulk pilots who actualy want to mine and not afk.. our job gets 10times harder to mess around with crystals

want a crystal hanger please... atleast hold a full set of crystals.. its not a big ask..
just makes life easier.. since you think afker mack ice miners now have 45min afk mine... yet us hulk pilots who actualy want to mine and not afk.. our job gets 10times harder to mess around with crystals

If you're fleet mining, you just assign your miners to different kinds of ore. That way, each miner only has to carry 1 or 2 extra sets of crystals, and each set will last 5-7 hours during normal use. Solo...well, you just target certain kinds of ores from high-value to low. You're going to have to go back to the station several times anyway unless you have a hauler -- and if you have a hauler, then your hauler can bring you new crystals as you need them.

I'm really not seeing why this is causing so much butthurt.

So is anything being done about significant portions of fleets disconnecting or not loading grid during fleet warps and gate / bridge jumps? This has been ongoing for several weeks now, and it's causing major problems for maintaining fleet integrity.

Also - the tutorial icon keeps returning to the icon bar when I remove it. I'm not doing the tutorials, so - please, can that go away?

If you're fleet mining, you just assign your miners to different kinds of ore. That way, each miner only has to carry 1 or 2 extra sets of crystals, and each set will last 5-7 hours during normal use. Solo...well, you just target certain kinds of ores from high-value to low. You're going to have to go back to the station several times anyway unless you have a hauler -- and if you have a hauler, then your hauler can bring you new crystals as you need them.

I'm really not seeing why this is causing so much butthurt.

Before the patch, in order to use a rookie ship as a cyno ship you needed:

1x Cyno module
1x Micro Aux module

Cyno IV skill.

After the patch, caldari + minmatar + gallente needs:

1x cyno module

Cyno IV skill.

Whereas the amarr now needs:

1x cyno module
1x cargohold expander (does not matter which, T1 is fine).

Cyno IV skill.



Do you see the problem?

EVE Online: Inferno 1.2 has been deployed successfully. hahahahah...Seriously.

well yes if we have to stick with tiny cargo hold we are going to have to do this , but t2 is suppose to have a bonus over using t1 stuff.. yet the gap now between a ret and a hulk is pretty damn small now compared to before,
why punish people who use t2 ,

CCP, I think you might have forgotten something? (Hint, try to find that rig or to make a link to it in a chat window)

this rig is listed under the medium electronics rigs in the market

And sells for 15M... Somebody's making a killing... Wait for me!

A wizard did it.

LOGIN - loading data stuck at 100% and wont finish, happens everytime i update, im sick of reinstalling fix this its what i pay u goons for!

A wizard did it.

I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3

graphics glitch in PI, launchpad is invisible, and the only visible part of the command center is the cpu and power grid use bar.

Not sure if this has been reported (I'm too tired to read the entire thread).

I can't seem to build using my barge BPCs. When I get to the screen that shows minerals required/missing, if says that I am missing more than twice as many minerals I need for the build.

Yea thats great no explain how my strip miner that pulls 1400m3 per laser only gets 2800 @ 200%

I have noticed that it is now possible to drag out things like containers from the tree view if docked; so that it is possible to show this container in an independent window with own settings (like looking in list view and sortings according Meta). THIS is very good! But is it possible to open this window via doubleclick at the icon of this container in the main window of the item hangar at station? Or do you intent to develop this function?

It is a very good start to bring back former functions of the non unified UI. Congratz. EVEN the settings like view, sorting and size of these windows are stored. But please make it permanent to drag out the windows. It is not good that I have to drag out my containers every time I want to look into them. Doubleclick at the container to open in a new window would be optimal. :-)

But again.. good idea and implementation till here. Now move on.

LOGIN - loading data stuck at 100% and wont finish, happens everytime i update, im sick of reinstalling fix this its what i pay u goons for!