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Loka
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Posted - 2005.02.16 10:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Zacheria Malfor
IMHO Drones, Hybrids and Gallente ships need looking at. The Gallente need bringing into line with the current state of 'balance' my mega hasn't felt the basking glow of the many suns of eve for quite some time now and I doubt it will anytime soon. But I'm just repeating whats already been said here 
No guys. Iam the opinion, that gallente are the best reference for all other to ballance.
No other ship is more ballanced than the gallente. You have to think about your setup. Not like other no brain ships. Everytime i fight i have to correct my course to achieve better hits. Thats gaming not warping in, stop your ship, kill anything moving, grabbing the loot, rinse.
Btw, its awsome to see the threat still alive and it has hell of hits & replys.
But after nerfing Missiles and the MP, then we can discuss again this topic. Because this nerf will bring the Megathron closer to the other races.
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Zacheria Malfor
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Posted - 2005.02.16 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
No guys. Iam the opinion, that gallente are the best reference for all other to ballance.
No other ship is more ballanced than the gallente. You have to think about your setup. Not like other no brain ships. Everytime i fight i have to correct my course to achieve better hits. Thats gaming not warping in, stop your ship, kill anything moving, grabbing the loot, rinse.
Btw, its awsome to see the threat still alive and it has hell of hits & replys.
But after nerfing Missiles and the MP, then we can discuss again this topic. Because this nerf will bring the Megathron closer to the other races.
In order to bring other ships in line with the megathron you'd be looking at nerfing the other races with the exception of the minmatar as they are similarly balanced to the gallente from my experience (which is little so if your minmatar im sure you can comfirm/deny this)
Granted one of the things i love about my mega is that i have to think about my set-ups and plan a head but at the moment caldari and amarr ships seem to have only a few set-ups in circulation which fit almost every role. The mega is inflexible in comparison.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.02.16 10:37:00 -
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Yes, as Loka says.
Megapulse is being looked at as we speak. Expect something to change to it within a months or two I'd say. If there'll be a change we all know its not going to be a boost so one way or the other its going to close the gap between megathron adn arma/apoc a bit when people stop fitting megapulses on anything that can fit em.
Aside from that I still believe blasters do need some work and rails do need a small boost, but thats it. Maybe just a tad less cap use and tad more trakcing for the blasters and a tad more damage or tracking for rails. More is not needed once the overdone large missiles and megapulse are brought back to earth.
Altho tbh, the fact that a serious apoc tank can't be broken 1v1 without a serious offensive blaster setup is kinda strange, but im willing to accept you cant pwn all. Question is, do you laser using friends accept they cant either ?
(actually, we should rp this whole balance **** and start a fecking war with the amarrians over them using illegal concord-outlawed technology in their megapulses)
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Sforza
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Posted - 2005.02.16 11:06:00 -
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*signed*
I'd just like to say that Rod and Loka have made the most sense to me in the whole gallente/blasters/megapulse kerfuffle.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.02.16 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sforza
*signed*
I'd just like to say that Rod and Loka have made the most sense to me in the whole gallente/blasters/megapulse kerfuffle.
Bah, Loka is Spurm.
What would he know of things 
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unnamed hero
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Posted - 2005.02.16 11:41:00 -
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i just wonder: how does mega do with megapulses :) probably you can kill more than with blasters, and using some pduII in low wont gimp setup all that much :)
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.02.16 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: unnamed hero
i just wonder: how does mega do with megapulses :) probably you can kill more than with blasters, and using some pduII in low wont gimp setup all that much :)
eeh, test it ?
I must confess that i've on occasion used megapulse on group hunting trips with low probability of long range fleet action. Why ? Cause they only use a bit more cap then 350mm rails, fit about as easily and do alot more damage and track better, even with the extra tracking my 350's get. But most of the time I'd only use em when there was a chance we'd be shooting at stations. I generally dont like medium damage medium range setups much since thats a no-win situation for a megathron.
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.02.16 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Bah, Loka is Spurm.
What would he know of things
Iam a great Miner :P
I think Rod has a lot of PvP & PvE expirience to talk about. This compared to the fact that he likes to present numbers rather then presenting an opinion makes him a person you want to discuss with.
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Snaieke
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Posted - 2005.02.16 16:08:00 -
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This post should not be on page 2 dengit
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Rogue 1690
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Posted - 2005.02.16 17:10:00 -
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Only reason i have a megathron is incase i ever need to go mining and i dont mine so it doesnt get used.
It does have one talent, you can go for long range sniper set ups but whats the point when a tempest is better.
Im not all that bothered as my raven rocks but it would be nice to get some sort of a reply from the dev team on the subject.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.02.16 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zacheria Malfor
IMHO Drones, Hybrids and Gallente ships need looking at. The Gallente need bringing into line with the current state of 'balance' my mega hasn't felt the basking glow of the many suns of eve for quite some time now and I doubt it will anytime soon. But I'm just repeating whats already been said here
I used to hunt rats with Dual Heavy Pulses on my Megathron. Only problem was cap consumption, but otherwise I did about as much damage with them as with my other hybrid weapons. Oh, and they fit on the ship better.
Hmm, the only thing keeping Megathron users, really, from using lasers instead of hybrids is the cap consumption.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.02.16 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
Originally by: Zacheria Malfor
IMHO Drones, Hybrids and Gallente ships need looking at. The Gallente need bringing into line with the current state of 'balance' my mega hasn't felt the basking glow of the many suns of eve for quite some time now and I doubt it will anytime soon. But I'm just repeating whats already been said here
No guys. Iam the opinion, that gallente are the best reference for all other to ballance.
No other ship is more ballanced than the gallente. You have to think about your setup. Not like other no brain ships. Everytime i fight i have to correct my course to achieve better hits. Thats gaming not warping in, stop your ship, kill anything moving, grabbing the loot, rinse.
Btw, its awsome to see the threat still alive and it has hell of hits & replys.
But after nerfing Missiles and the MP, then we can discuss again this topic. Because this nerf will bring the Megathron closer to the other races.
This is a somewhat reasonable way to look at the situation.
The problem, however, is that it is not easy for us Gallente pilots to mothball our megathrons while we wait for a time when an armageddon won't dominate it. As such, I pray the nerf to missles and megapulses comes soon.
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Lord Anubis
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Posted - 2005.02.16 19:24:00 -
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the thing that gets me was the stiff opinnon i got when saying projectiles were urber nerfed 6 months ago and getting some of u lot shoutting back there fine if u cant adapt leave
Now i see the tables have turned some what but un like u lot that said to me adapt im gonna say this
whine like crazy untill ur heard thats the only way to get hearded
then once ur fix xomment on the caladri ungimp froumn that will soon open up lol
the cycle of life
You cant beat Death
But you can make the bastard work hard for it
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.02.16 19:47:00 -
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-f missiles get hit too hard I'll eb there to shout, dont worry 
I use them too after all
Nah, balancing seems to be done gently now, altho faster action remains to be wished for.
Anyone remember how much time there was between the announcement that CCP Hammer would be looking at projectiles and the actual fix ? I'd assume thats what megapulses are looking at too, and I'd assume hybrids would be his next little project maybe
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Alexandryos Solarius
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Posted - 2005.02.16 21:47:00 -
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/SIGNED !!!!!
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Pointless Vengence
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Posted - 2005.02.17 06:06:00 -
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I'm looking forward to the Missile, EW, and Laser NERF . . . I think those might just put the Mega back on the same level as other ships
But till that is proven correct . . . THIS THREAD SHALL NOT DIE!!! 
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Captin Zoom
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Posted - 2005.02.17 15:05:00 -
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Upcomming Web nerf will finally kill Blasterthron. 
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.02.17 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Captin Zoom
Upcomming Web nerf will finally kill Blasterthron.
Not neccesarily.
You can get webbed earlier, but cna web earlier. Just need to train a skill to get same speed reduction.
If anything, the ew change will tho. Cause you'll never be sure you have the hostile scrambled for the duration of the fight or not, and of you dont your out of target and out of cap charges....
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.02.17 15:39:00 -
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Well on a blasterthron not the webber made you closecombat, but the short optimal.
Webbing earlier, will just help to get close. But if your target moves to fast, the range will work against you.
I think thats what he ment
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Peko
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Posted - 2005.02.17 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Anubis
the thing that gets me was the stiff opinnon i got when saying projectiles were urber nerfed 6 months ago and getting some of u lot shoutting back there fine if u cant adapt leave
Now i see the tables have turned some what but un like u lot that said to me adapt im gonna say this
whine like crazy untill ur heard thats the only way to get hearded
then once ur fix xomment on the caladri ungimp froumn that will soon open up lol
the cycle of life
This has been moaned about for a long time - possibly longer than the proj's
and its wasnt the minnie ships that was moaned about it was the 1400mm tracking if i remember right??
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Kirex
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Posted - 2005.02.18 04:32:00 -
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bump
and signed again
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Keiro
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Posted - 2005.02.18 08:41:00 -
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I finnally got an Blasteron and tested it out on my
corpmates that have an raven.
There is no way to beat the tank out of an Raven
If your getting to close he will nos you and your Megathron will get out of cap in no time == Dead.
still:
"Live with a Megathron Die with a Megathron"
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2005.02.18 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Keiro
I finnally got an Blasteron and tested it out on my
corpmates that have an raven.
There is no way to beat the tank out of an Raven
Incorrect. There are, indeed, ways. They ain't pretty, and they sure as hell don't work always. But there are ways.
Vee haff veys of making you pop!
Originally by: Keiro
If your getting to close he will nos you
Nos back, if that's your thing. Or cap charges. :)
Originally by: Keiro
and your Megathron will get out of cap in no time == Dead.
Hey, that's the part of high risk. We're just waiting for the high reward part to get implemented ;)
Originally by: Keiro
still:
"Live with a Megathron Die with a Megathron"
I usually to the first thing a few times, and then the latter a lot of times. But yep. 'Thron. It's the only way to fly.
*hurries up and hides his Raven and Scorp*
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
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Keiro
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Posted - 2005.02.18 11:34:00 -
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Wow quik response :)
yeah i'm gonna nos him back
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Captain Rod
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Posted - 2005.02.18 12:05:00 -
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you still wont break his tank unless you can do MAJOR damage with several million gunnery skill points. He'll probably have 2 kinetic and 1 thermal shield hardeners so use hvy drones that do explosive and EM damage for a very little bit of extra help :)
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Fortunios
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:36:00 -
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sooooooooo repackage / sell the megahunny babe ;)
and go for an raven
N E V E R :P
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2005.02.18 23:51:00 -
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back for a little Bump
and still amazed about the no ansew from CCP with more than 700 post 
Yeah im caldari... and yeah im flying a megatron...
Why coz maybe now only caldary are tough enough to fly those and evryone use caldari ship...
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Thanit
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Posted - 2005.02.19 00:03:00 -
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Was no answer to the pulse thread.
Untill a few days ago, when we learned Hammer was already on it
Silence can be folling us, but it doenst mean it doesn't get noticed.
Still, keep it up till we see something.
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2005.02.19 00:04:00 -
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nice to heard that someone is working on it
Yeah im caldari... and yeah im flying a megatron...
Why coz maybe now only caldary are tough enough to fly those and evryone use caldari ship...
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.02.19 04:44:00 -
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I wouldn't expect a reply. If I were a dev I would be physically ill at the backlash you would recieve with any reply to this thread.
Rest assured something with some 700 replys, and 25,000 views has not gone unnoticed. I would venture to guess that they are working on a solution, and we will see one eventually. And I would hope that with no huge patches coming in the future we will not have to wait as long as the projectile fix.
The Devs have not replyed because even something as simple as "I like cake" would be instantly flamed in such a heated discussion such as this.
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