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CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2011.04.01 15:15:00 - [1] EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 will be deployed Tuesday April 5 during an extended downtime. Tranquility will be taken offline at 09:00 UTC and is expected to return to service at 15:00 UTC. Incursion 1.4 introduces new features to EVE Online, such as new DED complexes, more locations for avatar portraits, the new forums (on Wednesday), and many other highly anticipated features you can read about here. Patch notes will be available soon. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us

Vincent Athena	Posted - 2011.04.01 15:25:00 - [2] Edited by: Vincent Athena on 01/04/2011 15:25:50 Looks good, looking forward to it. Many of those changes impact me on a day to day basis. Keep it up! Edit: First!
Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.01 15:26:00 - [3] Get ready Pure Blind, Greyscale is about to go elbow deep.
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.01 15:41:00 - [4] DON'T BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA. IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS! IT'S APRIL'S FOOL, FOOLS!
XFluke	Posted - 2011.04.01 15:48:00 - [5] Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues.
Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.01 15:53:00 - [6] Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. I'm usually the first one to ball bust over lag, but they have made huge leaps and bounds over the last week. The new hardware would likely be a key part of this. Had a 500 man fight 2 nights ago, it was completely lag free, and I even had turret effects turned on. As far as the over zealous use of nerf bats... I concur.
Starkiller Adams Gallente Interwebs Cooter Explosion Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.04.01 16:03:00 - [7] Tell greyscale to take a long walk off a short pier
Laurell Takasheema	Posted - 2011.04.01 16:05:00 - [8] To anyone who's experiencing lag since january, seemingly out of nowhere; Please visit the known issues section of the forum, some amazing advice and insite(and trolling) is provided. Look at the deny cache character writing(particularly the new portraits) something about disk drives and storing every person you meets picture starts to kill your seek/read/write times, and depth effects in particular. As for the new hard-ware.... I'm still fappiiiiing so cloooosee.... Zym, I just finished 6 gallons of Saison Duppont In mah closet, we aughta hang sometime! Keep up the good work! All of these new features, how far our spehcebebe has come neh? I look forward to every blog and patchnote to come.
Ramingo Caldari Payable on Death	Posted - 2011.04.01 16:12:00 - [9] By 6 hours downtime, to implement a few missing plexes, they of course mean INSHALLAH!!!! It only took em half a decade to get to polish DED plexes, at this rate I might be able to introduce my grandchildren to a decent Faction War system before they are off to conquer their stake of Mars. No but seriously. I never thought it possible to encounter a company that sucks more than GOA (French, used to run the European DAOC servers).

CCP Fallout	Posted - 2011.04.01 16:15:00 - [10] Originally by: XFluke Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. This would be a good opportunity to point out the myriad blogs we recently published on this very issue. The War on Lag is something we take very seriously, and we are constantly in the trenches fighting it. Suite of Upgrades to the TQ database - Yokai details a ton of upgrades we've made to Tranquility recently Flow Control is a new thing we've added, and Mort's blog gives the juicy details Missiles still hate Veritas' hamsters, but he's winning that war This page also details some of the things we've introduced with EVE Online: Incursion. Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us


Xeratox	Posted - 2011.04.01 16:18:00 - [11] Quote: No but seriously. I never thought it possible to encounter a company that sucks more than GOA (French, used to run the European DAOC servers). Lol... I used to be with GOA as well for Warhammer online and there is absolutely no freaking way you can even remotely compare the two companies... I just HAD to say this.. it's my first post on here.. Cheers, Xera
Shane Kryst	Posted - 2011.04.01 16:20:00 - [12] Quick question... Is this the update where you can change your portrait at any station for free - or is that adding in later?
Ramingo Caldari Payable on Death	Posted - 2011.04.01 16:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Xeratox Quote: No but seriously. I never thought it possible to encounter a company that sucks more than GOA (French, used to run the European DAOC servers). Lol... I used to be with GOA as well for Warhammer online and there is absolutely no freaking way you can even remotely compare the two companies... I just HAD to say this.. it's my first post on here.. Cheers, Xera Dude, Warhammer was mostly Mythic's screw up, not GOA's. In DAOC however it was entirely GOA.
Kuni Wah	Posted - 2011.04.01 16:42:00 - [14] Edited by: Kuni Wah on 01/04/2011 16:42:26 Are any of the updates in this patch going to stop those with non shader 3 set-ups logging back in after it? (Yes i know this is the date that anything less than S3 is no longer supported so this isnt a complaint, more a heads-up to any others like myself who are in the process of upgrading their rig.)
Abramul Gallente StarFleet Enterprises -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.04.01 17:08:00 - [15] Quote: More Portraits, More Places We're making player portraits available in the following windows - Trading, giving money, chat invites and objects in space. Hopefully you'll be able to see the portrait and go "yeah, this guy looks legit". Please, give us the option to disable portrait loading. Or at least have it automatically disable if a system is over a certain number of people. Granted, it's probably pulling them from a different server, but even so, do you really want to be having 500 people load a portrait every time someone jumps into Jita or every time an FC calls a target?
John Burdell The Knights Templar R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.01 17:23:00 - [16] "Improved Quality/Risk Scaling in Anomalies" Lol How about Quality/Risk Scaling in Missions and make every L4 that happens in high-sec spawn no battleship rats (or maybe a token few like the new anom system). I mean, its obviously a problem if all the missioners stay in the same space, no competition and all that. I'm NC but I don't rat for my isk, this is still very silly that you all haven't reconsidered this decision. It wont make smaller alliances able to get off the ground in 0.0- because they wont be able to make any isk, and any of the 'decent' systems will be quickly controlled by either our macro friends from the motherland, or the NC.
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.01 17:41:00 - [17] Originally by: Abramul Quote: More Portraits, More Places We're making player portraits available in the following windows - Trading, giving money, chat invites and objects in space. Hopefully you'll be able to see the portrait and go "yeah, this guy looks legit". Please, give us the option to disable portrait loading. Or at least have it automatically disable if a system is over a certain number of people. Granted, it's probably pulling them from a different server, but even so, do you really want to be having 500 people load a portrait every time someone jumps into Jita or every time an FC calls a target? Sounds like I may need to set even more cache folders as read only. :S The small portraits for local is no longer going to be enough. I freakin' hate portraits so bad lately.
Arth Lawing Gallente Penumbra Institute	Posted - 2011.04.01 17:54:00 - [18] Figured out how to install stone age, freely availible forums. Missing DED plex's we didn't bother doing from years ago added. Other Crap. Many hours offline.
Serenity 159080	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:20:00 - [19] Edited by: Serenity 159080 on 01/04/2011 18:22:50 Wow, where is the love? Players have spent years complaining about the small things in EVE that just annoy the hell out of you, and now CCP are fixing them, and players complain that they don't care. Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. Good point, we do pay for the game, but they are the ones that create it, so I guess without a little of both there would be no game. Also it might be good to remember that this is not your person game, that other people play it and appreciate the changes. As for lag, yep thats a killer. However the dev blogs linked above give good information on why lag is something that can never be removed from the game, just minimised, as shown by the increasing cap on the Jita population. Originally by: Ramingo By 6 hours downtime, to implement a few missing plexes, they of course mean INSHALLAH!!!! As you most likely do not have technical knowledge of the CCP servers and software, then I would say it might be difficult to say what is and is not a long deployment time. However with the changes made to EVE recently, downtime has been reduced substantially, so if they need to take a little extra time for deployment to make sure everything works, thats fine with me. Originally by: Arth Lawing Figured out how to install stone age, freely availible forums. Missing DED plex's we didn't bother doing from years ago added. Other Crap. Many hours offline. And again, I am sure CCP apologise that EVE is not your personaly customised game with all the features you want. As for me, I am quite happy with the way that CCP are moving, they have a long way to go, but are getting there. Server upgrades, staggered release of Incursion, and refocusing on updating old content, all good stuff. But you have to ask yourself, would you want CCP to dedicate an entire expansion just to fixing old content, without bringing out anything new? I think a balance of both is good. Serenity An after thought, a devblog on the recent server problems would be nice, just to fully explain the issues that have been occuring.
Skaarl	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:25:00 - [20] Originally by: CCP Fallout Originally by: XFluke Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. This would be a good opportunity to point out the myriad blogs we recently published on this very issue. The War on Lag is something we take very seriously, and we are constantly in the trenches fighting it. Suite of Upgrades to the TQ database - Yokai details a ton of upgrades we've made to Tranquility recently Flow Control is a new thing we've added, and Mort's blog gives the juicy details Missiles still hate Veritas' hamsters, but he's winning that war This page also details some of the things we've introduced with EVE Online: Incursion. reminding people that in x days, c hours x min and x seconds your going to screw over massive amounts of your customers may not be the best way to handle these changes.

Skaarl	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:28:00 - [21] oh and i know its a late late hour to bring this up, but you realize that if you are relying on DED sites to make up for the loss in anomoly income.... well you do realize that the RUS/EU players will have them all run long before nay US player logs in to even begin probing right? i mean you have thought these out and taken that into account? oh wait nm, this is ccp we are talking about, of course you haven't.
BjornarGoesToSpace Blue Republic	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:35:00 - [22] instead of beeing so negative be happy they finally got decent forum software, and that they are revisiting old content. ATTENTION CCP Now just focus more on game-balance, faction warfare and lowsec in general i will be so freakin happy...!!! Also i wouldnt mind less highsec, more NPC 0.0. That is all, thanks. ATTENTION CCP ----- o7
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:35:00 - [23] Originally by: Serenity 159080 CCP brown nosing What you're not getting here is that for the handful of these things that are actually improvements (and not just adding extra lag for reduced functionality), the few minor things that might help the game (I count about 4-5) in no way, shape, or form, justify the fact that team "hair up it's ass" is ****ing over 0.0. In fact it's bad enough that if the 0.0 cluster-hump isn't removed from this half-assed thrown-together patch, it completely de-legitimizes CCP and will likely kill the game. Team "do whatever we want with no oversight" has already lost legitimacy for even thinking of the stupid idea and for their obstinacy over it. They need to be moved to project "no way an idiot could screw it up" and get a team that actually plays the game to work on game play issues.
Spc One Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:38:00 - [24] This patch sucks. So no high anticipation from me. ____________________________________________________________________________ Angel 0/A
Drunk Retard	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:41:00 - [25] Edited by: Drunk ***** on 01/04/2011 18:42:35* The simplest thing this patch is gonna do is reduce ccp's income, so i dont think the anomolie changes will last long... Think it through. I have 6 accounts, I spend 4 or 5 days of the month doing sanctums/havens in order to afford the plex cards for those 6 accounts. The rest of the month is split between pvp and making isk to replace the pvp ships. Remove the sanctums, and well, I might be able to afford 1 or 2 plex a month from ratting so you lose 4 accounts due to me not able to afford all 6 plex each month. May not seem like much, but 400,000 subs, say 50% of them will be affected by this change, and 50% of them pay by ingame, going by my loss of income of 4 out of 6. Means you lose 66,000 accounts worth of isk per month. 66,000 x $15 = $990,000 lost income for ccp. wonder if your financial adviser pointed this out to you...
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:42:00 - [26] Edited by: Grimpak on 01/04/2011 18:43:39 Originally by: mkmin Originally by: Serenity 159080 CCP brown nosing What you're not getting here is that for the handful of these things that are actually improvements (and not just adding extra lag for reduced functionality), the few minor things that might help the game (I count about 4-5) in no way, shape, or form, justify the fact that team "hair up it's ass" is **ing over 0.0. In fact it's bad enough that if the 0.0 cluster-hump isn't removed from this half-assed thrown-together patch, it completely de-legitimizes CCP and will likely kill the game. Team "do whatever we want with no oversight" has already lost legitimacy for even thinking of the stupid idea and for their obstinacy over it. They need to be moved to project "no way an idiot could screw it up" and get a team that actually plays the game to work on game play issues. yeah stop blobbing then. only way to fix lag permanently. do agree that the change on anoms is a bit kneejerked tho, and the new forums aren't really that great. --- Quote:** The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:47:00 - [27] How many obsticals are left before all down time created items like DED sites, FW plexes, mining belts, and other stuff can be generated in game per rules that can be tweaked? Once these sites are unlocked from the downtime mechanic the happier everyone will be.
Arron Wade The Knights Templar	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:48:00 - [28] to be fair, I do like some of these Server-side ship fittings, the mass repackaging, that bookmark thing (don't know what they called it), being able to strip a ship without getting in it and the default squad commander thing. Also nice was the fixing the guristas jamming business... but they are effectively removing anoms from most of 0.0, so that doesn't matter much. CCP had to have known that most residents of 0.0 would be upset as hell about the anom changes, and the fact that they decided to do it anyway- and then ignore the threads about it tells a lot about how much they really care about us out here. But hey! loot logging is enabled by default now so that more than makes up for it... right guys? (Oh wait, it was already that way once everyone hit the little check box they so thoughtfully provided)
Serenity 159080	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:49:00 - [29] Originally by: mkmin Originally by: Serenity 159080 Clear Responce Stuff When you referr to things like "Team "do whatever we want with no oversight"" I hope you realise that other people don't know what you are talking about, which makes it difficult to really respond. From what I understood, when CCP ignore the players you complain, and now that they are doing what players have asked for and improving the quality of the game you also don't like that. To respond more fully to you, please could you list the changes and in which way they will increase lag while decreasing functionality so that I can understand where you are coming from. It would also be useful if you could link to some of your forums posts where you propose your ideas for how to improve EVE, I can read them and understand what features you would like to see instead of what CCP are releasing. Serenity
Skaarl	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:55:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP Fallout Originally by: XFluke Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. This would be a good opportunity to point out the myriad blogs we recently published on this very issue. The War on Lag is something we take very seriously, and we are constantly in the trenches fighting it. Suite of Upgrades to the TQ database - Yokai details a ton of upgrades we've made to Tranquility recently Flow Control is a new thing we've added, and Mort's blog gives the juicy details Missiles still hate Veritas' hamsters, but he's winning that war This page also details some of the things we've introduced with EVE Online: Incursion. i think he is refering to the factthat your screwing large swathes of 0.0 while making botting more attractive, and rewarding the largest collection of botters in the game. oh and btw, lag wont be fixed until fighterbombers/supercarriers are fixed. as soon as they drop their 3000 drakes on the field the system is screwed.

Serenity 159080	Posted - 2011.04.01 18:56:00 - [31] Originally by: Salpun How many obsticals are left before all down time created items like DED sites, FW plexes, mining belts, and other stuff can be generated in game per rules that can be tweaked? Once these sites are unlocked from the downtime mechanic the happier everyone will be. Very good idea. There was a dev blog a while ago about downtime, and that for the last few years they have been trying to move away from downtime, however its legacy code that is a pain to change, but maybe this is something that can be done by the team that is tackling the little things in EVE, maybe you should bring it up in the Little Things thread if it hasn't already, or just show it a +1 .
Aurora Incandescent	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:03:00 - [32] dear CCP Please check the 77 page (at the time of me writing) thread of comments AGAINST the mass 0.0 nurf http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487231&page=73 Then, go here and check the timer at the top of the page. http://www.eveonline.com/en/incursion/features Thats how long until people in 0.0 start canceling accounts if you let Grayscales changes go ahead...
Mike deVoid Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:05:00 - [33] lol at all the nullbears in this thread
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:07:00 - [34] Originally by: Serenity 159080 Originally by: Salpun How many obsticals are left before all down time created items like DED sites, FW plexes, mining belts, and other stuff can be generated in game per rules that can be tweaked? Once these sites are unlocked from the downtime mechanic the happier everyone will be. Very good idea. There was a dev blog a while ago about downtime, and that for the last few years they have been trying to move away from downtime, however its legacy code that is a pain to change, but maybe this is something that can be done by the team that is tackling the little things in EVE, maybe you should bring it up in the Little Things thread if it hasn't already, or just show it a +1 . The suggestion that something might be fixed that might fix what is being intentionally broken right now is bull****. Yeah, good reason to support this godawful game-breaking patch because parts of it could potentially be fixed one day. kissass.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:08:00 - [35] Originally by: Aurora Incandescent dear CCP Please check the 77 page (at the time of me writing) thread of comments AGAINST the mass 0.0 nurf http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487231&page=73 Then, go here and check the timer at the top of the page. http://www.eveonline.com/en/incursion/features Thats how long until people in 0.0 start canceling accounts if you let Grayscales changes go ahead... Yeah because spam from nulltards who dont give two ****s about game balance and just want extra shineys in their bit of space is really good feedback right? http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Creepin	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:12:00 - [36] Quote: What happened to the old forums? That board will be read-only and only serve as a reference to older topics. A tough technical decision was made, and was agreed that a new start was the best way forward for the new forums. Why are the new forums in EVE Gate? The forums are now interconnected into EVE Gate. Dear CCP, does this mean that all players who despises social networks and thus decided to never use EVE-Gate will be unable to use eve official forums? Does that really makes any sence to you? Or perhaps when saying "Here at CCP, we are dedicated to maximizing human interaction" you actually meant that you're inclined to goad your playerbase into maximizing their interaction whether they like it or not?
WhyAmIPoor	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:13:00 - [37] You just turn one the of best updates ive seen for Eve since i've started playing (team bff changes) that would of made you gods among men into the worst ever by adding that anom change into it.
Dodgy Past Amarr Zor Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:15:00 - [38] Originally by: John Burdell How about Quality/Risk Scaling in Missions and make every L4 that happens in high-sec spawn no battleship rats (or maybe a token few like the new anom system). I mean, its obviously a problem if all the missioners stay in the same space, no competition and all that. I'm NC but I don't rat for my isk, this is still very silly that you all haven't reconsidered this decision. It wont make smaller alliances able to get off the ground in 0.0- because they wont be able to make any isk, and any of the 'decent' systems will be quickly controlled by either our macro friends from the motherland, or the NC. Bawwww. Maybe go scan down some of those new plexes? Amasing how everyone's running around as if the world's about to end over something that was only introduced a year ago being tweaked to improve the game for everyone. Amusing that the arrogant null bears are crying harder than the high sec bears did after the multiple nerfs to their income.
Arron Wade The Knights Templar	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Darek Castigatus Originally by: Aurora Incandescent dear CCP Yeah because spam from nulltards who dont give two ****s about game balance and just want extra shineys in their bit of space is really good feedback right? So... the people who actually live in nullsec shouldn't be the ones to give their opinions on nullsec changes? kk then, nullsec pilots probably all think L4s should be removed from high-sec, and the massive thread of people who would be against that should be ignored too?
Serenity 159080	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:24:00 - [40] Originally by: Creepin Quote: What happened to the old forums? That board will be read-only and only serve as a reference to older topics. A tough technical decision was made, and was agreed that a new start was the best way forward for the new forums. Why are the new forums in EVE Gate? The forums are now interconnected into EVE Gate. Dear CCP, does this mean that all players who despises social networks and thus decided to never use EVE-Gate will be unable to use eve official forums? Does that really makes any sence to you? Or perhaps when saying "Here at CCP, we are dedicated to maximizing human interaction" you actually meant that you're inclined to goad your playerbase into maximizing their interaction whether they like it or not? Forums are a type of Social Network. But no, I don't think you will be forced to use EVE Gate, it will most likely be that the two are interconected so that from one you can jump into the other. I have not looked into this so don't quote me, however the BETA test of the forums was just a few days ago, you could ask around to find out what people thought of the new forums, and how they integrate into EVE Gate. Serenity

Dalketh	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:25:00 - [41] Exactly. It immediately reminded me of how politicians will attach an unpopular bill to a popular one, in the hopes they can get the unpopular one passed that way. In either case it stinks. Originally by: WhyAmIPoor You just turn one the of best updates ive seen for Eve since i've started playing (team bff changes) that would of made you gods among men into the worst ever by adding that anom change into it.
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Dodgy Past Originally by: John Burdell How about Quality/Risk Scaling in Missions and make every L4 that happens in high-sec spawn no battleship rats (or maybe a token few like the new anom system). I mean, its obviously a problem if all the missioners stay in the same space, no competition and all that. I'm NC but I don't rat for my isk, this is still very silly that you all haven't reconsidered this decision. It wont make smaller alliances able to get off the ground in 0.0- because they wont be able to make any isk, and any of the 'decent' systems will be quickly controlled by either our macro friends from the motherland, or the NC. Bawwww. Maybe go scan down some of those new plexes? Amasing how everyone's running around as if the world's about to end over something that was only introduced a year ago being tweaked to improve the game for everyone. Amusing that the arrogant null bears are crying harder than the high sec bears did after the multiple nerfs to their income. You're missing the point, what you are seeing is the generation of "wine till I get it", where they start somewhere so irrational and foolish, that when you compromise, they get what they wanted in the begging. This too shall pass. Best, AG *** Signature may appear without warning! *** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
Geralden	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:29:00 - [43] Edited by: Geralden on 01/04/2011 19:29:45 I was kind of looking forward to this patch. After Greyscale's incredible narrowminded and totally arrogant replys to his dev. blog, i couldnt care less. Found another game im checkking out, so when this "screw 0.0 population over" patch is applyed, im out of here. I may/may not return in a year or so, so no - cant have my stuff, it can rot on my account.
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:39:00 - [44] Originally by: Geralden Edited by: Geralden on 01/04/2011 19:29:45 I was kind of looking forward to this patch. After Greyscale's incredible narrowminded and totally arrogant replys to his dev. blog, i couldnt care less. Found another game im checkking out, so when this "screw 0.0 population over" patch is applyed, im out of here. I may/may not return in a year or so, so no - cant have my stuff, it can rot on my account. People keep mentioning the other game, but aren't saying what it is. Throw me a freakin' bone!
kryton99 Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:43:00 - [45] when ever ccp anounce an upgrade i allways look at these forums and all i ever see is adolescent whining. if you tossers hate this game so much then why not go play WOW, im sure you will fit in fine. and we wont miss you
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.04.01 19:57:00 - [46] Edited by: Sarmatiko on 01/04/2011 20:00:17 whine.. whine never changes Why all this people crying about 0.0 PVE (anomalies nerf)? You all must do PVP because EVE is a PVP game, no? Where all this mumbling about carebearing gone?
Elektrea Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.04.01 20:00:00 - [47] Originally by: Lev Aeris Had a 500 man fight 2 nights ago, it was completely lag free, and I even had turret effects turned on. Turret effects have nothing to do with their server updates, derp derp. ----------
Jhekarn Hasamura	Posted - 2011.04.01 20:04:00 - [48] This patch sucks very... i play EvE with 2 accounts and earn the most of my isk for ships and pvp with doing sanctums and heavens - this new change will completly decrase my ways to earn isk in 0.0 to zero. That could be the change i have to say goodbye. I havnt the Time to run a PI actually and im not a proder. If CCP wants to destroy the normal non producer player in 0.0 why you dont remove the anomalys completly? Its the same for me and i think its NEVER an opinion to spend more hours for earning the same money. And i dont plan to go into 100% produce. Since this patch i was very happy with the game - but the next patchday will kill my fun.. thanks for paying attention...
McKinlay North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.04.01 20:04:00 - [49] All good stuff. Thanks for the patch CCP.

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2011.04.01 20:07:00 - [50] Just so you know patch notes are now available! Read and Enjoy! Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us


Jhekarn Hasamura	Posted - 2011.04.01 20:09:00 - [51] PS to all people who wrote abouth "whining" - this "whiners" pay for the game like all others - and have an opinion like all other gamers in eve too. If nobody will wrote them - ccp dont know the fact some people are ****ed abouth some type of change. To say "play wow" is not the answer for becoming a good balanced game. @all Scammers - if u dont have an opinion else than "dont whine" dont wrote them because its whine too ;)
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.04.01 20:11:00 - [52] Originally by: Jhekarn Hasamura i play EvE with 2 accounts and earn the most of my isk for ships and pvp with doing sanctums and heavens - this new change will completly decrase my ways to earn isk in 0.0 to zero. Nullsec carebears must suffer. If you want to farm from now you can pay your monthly rental fee to the ~~CEO~~ tzar in other region Its good to hear that CCP at last done something with all this countless ~~bots~~ carebears that logoff in seconds after you appear in local \o/
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2011.04.01 20:17:00 - [53] Quote: You can no longer create a Portrait without eyes being visible within the image Nooooo! But looking forward to it all regardless \o/ ------------ Lum Gen Seriphyn Inhonores FDU Commanding Officer, Eleutherian Guard
Jireel	Posted - 2011.04.01 20:36:00 - [54] Stealth Quote: The calculated damage on kill mails is now more accurate. spotted
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:01:00 - [55] The DED complexes post states: "Difficulties 6 through 10 go to null sec, 4 through 6 go to low sec, and 3 and lower in feel-good high sec. Currently there are level 4 complexes in high sec, does this mean they will be removed? Why are level 4 not going to high sec?
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:12:00 - [56] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Just so you know patch notes are now available! Read and Enjoy! Nothing about the DED plexes in there, did you mix that up with the anomoly change?
Elmore Jones The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:27:00 - [57] Edited by: Elmore Jones on 01/04/2011 21:27:13 Lot's of carebears quitting null over the patch? Yarr, more empty sanctums for me :D Looking forward to patch day already! Cheers CCP, keep up the good work. __________________________________________________
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:31:00 - [58] account cancellations in. Thanks for confirming the ****-over. The patch happens 1 day after my billing cycle and it would have been a shame to fork over any more $ to a greedy bastard company that's willing to destroy the hard work of thousands of people for the expected extra RMT revenue.
Skaarl	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:32:00 - [59] Edited by: Skaarl on 01/04/2011 21:33:02 are the anom changes in there or not? never mind they are under player owned structures. accounts cancelled. i dont like the shape off ccp's sandbox.
Jireel	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:35:00 - [60] Originally by: mkmin account cancellations in. Thanks for confirming the ****-over. The patch happens 1 day after my billing cycle and it would have been a shame to fork over any more $ to a greedy bastard company that's willing to destroy the hard work of thousands of people for the expected extra RMT revenue. I like people leaving even before a patch is applied. Cry more

Flynn Fetladral Caldari BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:37:00 - [61] In space, there is no gravity, thus bras are not needed. Follow Flynn on Twitter
Ifly Uwalk Caldari Empire Tax Collection Agency	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:41:00 - [62] Quick question about the new character features (scars, tats etc.): Will we all get flagged for re-sculpting or just re-customization? Will I still need to petition for a re-sculpt?
Jehanne D'ark Minmatar Ghost Tribal Credit Union Sspectre	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:45:00 - [63] I completely support the changes outlined here. Yay :D Made of win and awesome.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.01 21:46:00 - [64] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Just so you know patch notes are now available! Read and Enjoy! Regarding this: All NPCs that use jamming have been streamlined in functionality and you can now fit your ship to counteract them. àwhen that "change" was presented, many of us asked what it was you actually changed, but we never received an answer. NPC jamming can already be counteracted in the normal way ù it's been possible for years. Yes, I know that conventional wisdom (and some very old CCP quote) states that it's based on a static chance, but actual testing has proven this claim to be false. ECCM and high sensor strength is already a factor in determining NPC's chances to jam ships. Hell, we've even been able to suss out the jamming strengths against different sensor types. So what has actually changed here? Anything? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Mortiis Goro	Posted - 2011.04.01 22:06:00 - [65] Reduce the price of PLEX like it was when it came out, then you can nerf 0.0 income to what it was back then. It is like the sallary is the same but the bills are getting higher... last time i checked we werent on earth
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.01 22:30:00 - [66] Originally by: Mortiis Goro Reduce the price of PLEX like it was when it came out Now, you do know that they're not setting the prices, right? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
BBJ Shepard Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.04.01 22:38:00 - [67] Edited by: BBJ Shepard on 01/04/2011 22:40:02 This is a good patch, shut up and deal with having turn off your macros for a good few extra hours freakos Originally by: Mortiis Goro Reduce the price of PLEX like it was when it came out, then you can nerf 0.0 income to what it was back then. It is like the sallary is the same but the bills are getting higher... last time i checked we werent on earth This isn't how a open market works you mong )0) \0/ (0(
Solosky	Posted - 2011.04.01 22:42:00 - [68] Not clear - is where (free) one-time portrait re-customization/re-sculpting or not? It was on Sisi.
Stelianos Minmatar Mythos Military Solutions	Posted - 2011.04.01 22:44:00 - [69] Originally by: Skaarl Edited by: Skaarl on 01/04/2011 21:33:02 are the anom changes in there or not? never mind they are under player owned structures. accounts cancelled. i dont like the shape off ccp's sandbox. Can I have your stuff?
Jack Gilligan Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.01 23:18:00 - [70] This crappy update DO NOT WANT! This unreasonable and EXTREME nerf to 0.0 MUST be pulled from going live.

Khamal Jolstien Caldari Sick Tight Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.01 23:29:00 - [71] Remove the 0.0 change and its a good patch. Otherwise, enjoy the sudden drop in subs. Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
Zoe Seymore	Posted - 2011.04.01 23:33:00 - [72] LOL..."extreme nerf" to 0.0. These stupid "all space" is equal BS should never have been introduced in the first place....everyone knows how bad for the game that was. Finally CCP realized it was a mistake and is fixing...they do pay attention after all Keep up the good work. There is still waaay too much isk in the game and this patch will help that too. I love it. Now just get the lag fixed...stop all the supercarrier blobs...make dreads useful again!
Market Girrl	Posted - 2011.04.01 23:45:00 - [73] Edited by: Market Girrl on 01/04/2011 23:45:37 Well, at least I'll be getting rid of alt accounts because of anom changes. Have fun CCP, as you obviously don't want more money from PLEX system. Oh, and for some of you that think that this is actually good change, have fun with 0.0 bots. They don't care and will continue to bot 23/7 - group that is hurt the most is actually some of us that do play this game and can't be online for 10h per day.
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.02 00:08:00 - [74] What about the bugs? With last hotfix you didnt eevn bother to make a bug thread (and it reintroduced few old bugs)
Crest Cutty	Posted - 2011.04.02 00:26:00 - [75] More null-bear tears, now with free wall-o-text!!! (tl;dr at bottom) The problem with the sanctum nerf, at least for me, is the impact on keeping myself in small roaming pvp ships, vagas, cynabals and munins oh my. These losses are often not reimbursed (unless you are in GooNC alliances because of the tech moon imbalance) but this style of small/fast roams with 10-20 buddies is what most pvp pilots love (some exclusively some enjoy the cta's as well) What people are forgetting about when they are saying "how did you get along before sanctums?" is that before sanctums alliances had much more isk to play around with. Supercap proliferation wasn't at the levels it is now, meaning a dreadnaught fleet with some carrier support was all that was needed on an alliance level. Dyspro and prom moons turned out a mint and there were no sov costs (fueling towers costs no where near as much as maintaining sov). With fat alliance wallets isk making responsibility was shifted from the individual pilot to the alliance(yay, we have a reason not to kill each other and actually show up to defend stuff) . This allowed most of the alliances/corps to have modest if not full pvp replacement programs (vs the CTA programs I've seen recently) supported by a couple r64s which were alliance level assets. Then CCP had a great idea (terabad) to shift fiscal responsibility away from the alliance and towards the players. Cue sanctums, allowing individuals to earn enough to fund small scale pvp without becoming full time bears. At the same time, alliance level assets were nerfed (dysp/prom) and more alliance level expenses were created (ihubs). Now you are taking away our sanctums without providing another income source to fund small scale pvp. At the same time, alliance wallets are being hit with reduced renter income (hard to pay rent when you can't run sanctums). Those of us who like small scale pvp are being forced into selling plex, botting or joining the NC (all fates worth than death) and thus QQ tl;dr with the advent of sanctums and ihubs combined with the dyspro/prom-nerf the isk burden for small gang pvp moved from the alliance to the individual. Taking sanctums away without examining that relationship is stupid
Mors Sanctitatis	Posted - 2011.04.02 00:43:00 - [76] Originally by: Mike deVoid lol at all the nullbears in this thread THIS. ^5s Mike. - I'm a pirate trapped in a pirate's body.
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.02 01:17:00 - [77] So now it's not AFD any more, can you please announced the lame **** in this expansion isn't happening?
GambbiT	Posted - 2011.04.02 01:34:00 - [78] this is very funny i live here http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Esoteria/AJG-MV#const now without sanctums and heavens well there is no point in even holding sov (useless ihubs upgrades lvl 5 and alot of shiit) carebearing is the only way for me to do isk to pay for my ships, maybe after this patch i will turn to RMT (hey guys u know a good site?), i just hate scaning , soo that means no DED for me, i dont know maybe i will go back to npc space for a good chain or mission running or wtf ,anyway this patch means moore carebear less fun. From my point of view this sucks big time
Leon Razor Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.02 01:39:00 - [79] Quote: It is no longer possible to assign shortcuts to keys already used by the default schema, for example you can no longer assign F1 to "Open Calculator". Does this mean for example that I can't set "a" to "mid slot 1" because it is "align" in the default schema? If so, this is a major step backwards. What's the point of a customizable shortcut system if half of the keys are arbitrarily non-re-assignable?
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.02 01:41:00 - [80] Originally by: Leon Razor Quote: It is no longer possible to assign shortcuts to keys already used by the default schema, for example you can no longer assign F1 to "Open Calculator". Does this mean for example that I can't set "a" to "mid slot 1" because it is "align" in the default schema? If so, this is a major step backwards. What's the point of a customizable shortcut system if half of the keys are arbitrarily non-re-assignable? Because everybody hates the new shortcuts, so of course they'll make them mandatory. Welcome to EVE. Where the devs screw the players in the ass and makes them pay for it.

Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:00:00 - [81] Originally by: Leon Razor Quote: It is no longer possible to assign shortcuts to keys already used by the default schema, for example you can no longer assign F1 to "Open Calculator". Does this mean for example that I can't set "a" to "mid slot 1" because it is "align" in the default schema? If so, this is a major step backwards. What's the point of a customizable shortcut system if half of the keys are arbitrarily non-re-assignable? Or, more specificallyà What the hell is the "default schema"? Tell us what it is we can no longer assign or patch note is worthless and will be subject to numerous bug reports until your QA department has been asked about every possible key combination available. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
ZyklonC	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:16:00 - [82] I love the complete lack of any understanding of the game that CCP is displaying. Nurfing 0.0 space is going to give botters a field day, ISK inflation is going to go through the roof as people compensate for lack of income, by selling stuff at a much higher price. You think this is only going to affect nullbears? They're the ones who actually get the lovely shiney modules you like to fit to your mission-runners. Hope you enjoy paying a lot more for it :) Also, CCP, what is the point of allowing people to comment on devblogs etc, when you completely ignore the will of the playerbase(who actually, you know, pay your wages)? It's taken i don't know how many years for you to fix basic things like being able to dock in a station after re-shipping in space, yet you push crap through like forcing everyone to use eve-gate. You're completely focused on shiney things that 80% of your existing playerbase doesn't care about, and you ignore things like RMT botting that completely alter the game for everyone. "oh we're getting tough on it" i'm sorry, that's crap. If you actually wanted to do something about RMT, you'd perm-ban accounts found to be botting. But you dont. Your complete inability to do anything even remotely worthwhile about it is a tacit approval of the practice. With this patch, I know a lot of people who are now going to start botting just to try and make some income. "oh but we're wanting to create more fights by making some space more valuable!" Really? You mean the rediculous lag-fests where it takes an hour to load system once you've jumped in, only to find that you're already 40% in to armor yet grid only loaded 5 seconds ago? By the way, can you stop with the "1,000+ man battles!" thing? It's false advertising. Serriously, what is it going to take for you to actually listen to what your existing customerbase wants/thinks about a proposal? Or are we just some form of annoyance that you need to give the appearence of caring about, so we'll keep throwing money at you. So, congratulations CCP. Yet again you've taken what was a great game, and piece by piece you've pulled it apart and nurfed it to the point that it's almost not worth playing anymore. P.S.: Whats the schedule for nurfing grav/mag/etc sites? Mission runners have been nurfed, 0.0 is being nurfed, so given recent form those wont be far away?
manidu	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:21:00 - [83] Thanks for listening to the feedback thread about the anomaly changes. NOT!
SirHarryPierce	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:26:00 - [84] "Visibility level 5 now works for 'region' range setting rather than just '40 jumps'." Could you please explain this one somewhat more? Thx.
Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:26:00 - [85] Originally by: Elektrea Originally by: Lev Aeris Had a 500 man fight 2 nights ago, it was completely lag free, and I even had turret effects turned on. Turret effects have nothing to do with their server updates, derp derp. Holy **** you mean my local gfx card renders that? OMG. Asbergers much?
Khamal Jolstien Caldari Sick Tight Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:30:00 - [86] Originally by: Lev Aeris Originally by: Elektrea Originally by: Lev Aeris Had a 500 man fight 2 nights ago, it was completely lag free, and I even had turret effects turned on. Turret effects have nothing to do with their server updates, derp derp. Holy ** you mean my local gfx card renders that? OMG. Asbergers much? Your local gfx card doesn't render packets. Lag != "choppiness" or other client performance issues. Originally by:** McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:36:00 - [87] Originally by: Khamal Jolstien Originally by: Lev Aeris Originally by: Elektrea Originally by: Lev Aeris Had a 500 man fight 2 nights ago, it was completely lag free, and I even had turret effects turned on. Turret effects have nothing to do with their server updates, derp derp. Holy ** you mean my local gfx card renders that? OMG. Asbergers much? Your local gfx card doesn't render packets. Lag != "choppiness" or other client performance issues. **, I was simply stating that things were improving. I am well aware of the difference between server and local issues. My mistake for not clarifying my post with psuedo code.
Khamal Jolstien Caldari Sick Tight Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.02 02:59:00 - [88] Originally by: Lev Aeris **, I was simply stating that things were improving. I am well aware of the difference between server and local issues. My mistake for not clarifying my post with psuedo code. It's cool dude, just pointing out why he was mocking you there. Wasn't trying to be rude. Originally by:** McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
Soldarius Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.02 03:01:00 - [89] Always amusing to read the emoragequit posts from bears that cba to actually try earning isk, and want everything handed to them on a technetium platter. Ever notice how most of them cba to enable their corp or alliance in profile? Hell, some didn't even bother with the portrait. Lazy. Your default short-cuts are shown in the escape menu. You can change them to suit. Or if you want them back to default, hit 'reset to default' or whatever that button says. /platter nul-sec isk making for normal people is about to change. Botters will still bot. And with a lack of anoms, there will be more belt botting. More DED plexes will help somewhat to compensate for the loss. But it won't be a total solution. One person said he cba to make things and sell them and will quit. Cool. Less demand for modules means lower prices for me. And... oh yeah. I can haz your stuff? Originally by: CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
Rocius Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.04.02 03:07:00 - [90] Quote: òRepresent your bloodline in ink with new and classic tattoo designs from the EVE universe. I would have really REALLY liked to see our current tattoo's to have been included in this, as the quote above indicates. Currently on the sisi build, this is not so. Some of us have had the same ink on our characters for well over 7 years. To have to change some of these things kinda sucks, to be honest. points at sig Is there any intention of adding the remainder of the current tattoos in an upcoming patch, perhaps? Also, any plans to introduce ink on the rest of our bodies?

Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.02 03:15:00 - [91] Originally by: Khamal Jolstien Originally by: Lev Aeris ****, I was simply stating that things were improving. I am well aware of the difference between server and local issues. My mistake for not clarifying my post with psuedo code. It's cool dude, just pointing out why he was mocking you there. Wasn't trying to be rude. Ah well, these forums really do bring out the worst in people. The more time I spend interacting with the community, the more I think my eve money would be better spent on a beer hockey league.
Skaarl	Posted - 2011.04.02 03:23:00 - [92] Originally by: Lev Aeris Originally by: Khamal Jolstien Originally by: Lev Aeris ****, I was simply stating that things were improving. I am well aware of the difference between server and local issues. My mistake for not clarifying my post with psuedo code. It's cool dude, just pointing out why he was mocking you there. Wasn't trying to be rude. Ah well, these forums really do bring out the worst in people. The more time I spend interacting with the community, the more I think my eve money would be better spent on a beer hockey league. beer.hockey. dont see how you can loose on that one lev.
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.02 03:25:00 - [93] Originally by: Lev Aeris Originally by: Khamal Jolstien Originally by: Lev Aeris **, I was simply stating that things were improving. I am well aware of the difference between server and local issues. My mistake for not clarifying my post with psuedo code. It's cool dude, just pointing out why he was mocking you there. Wasn't trying to be rude. Ah well, these forums really do bring out the worst in people. The more time I spend interacting with the community, the more I think my eve money would be better spent on a beer hockey league. The community is usually pretty good when CCP isn't doing something stupid, screwing over lots of people, ignoring customer feedback, and generally **ing everyone off. But if CCP won't listen to our noise, people start to take it out on eachother making this possibly one of the worst communities in gaming. And yes, I am guilty of it an unashamed.
Cyriel Longinus Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2011.04.02 03:34:00 - [94] Thanks for all the hard work CCP. I appreciate it.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.02 04:05:00 - [95] àpersonally, I'd appreciate it if CCP told us what it is they're changing. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Terminal Entry New Fnord Industries	Posted - 2011.04.02 04:22:00 - [96] Originally by: 1.4 Patch Notes All NPCs that use jamming have been streamlined in functionality and you can now fit your ship to counteract them. What does this mean for the Marauder class battleships? Their sensor strengths were pre-nerfed to the level of a cruiser. One of the justifications was that when up against NPCs it wouldn't matter. Now it does! Before flamming, I'm not a Marauder pilot, I just would like to see the T2 Battleships (Co-ops included) more like they were T2! Term. Originally by: CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.
UJust Lost TheGAME	Posted - 2011.04.02 04:24:00 - [97] Edited by: UJust Lost TheGAME on 02/04/2011 04:25:52 LOL. I love how ccp waits until after fanfest hype to push the nullsec nerf in. "This is your game" my ass. lol They're really screwing over younger players, and smaller alliances. Not everyone can scam or enjoys doing it. As for the botters... they will just continue botting. I really hope this is an april fools joke because what will end up happening is that ppl will end up leaving their smaller alliances for the bigger ones so they can afford to live in null. You will see a lot of mergers as a result of this. or they'll say **** it and move back up into empire, or simply win eve. I think in all seriousness though, since they haven't given us a plan for null sec, (nor do they ever seem to have a plan lol) they want to reduce the amount of isk in the game that seems to be causing inflation, and to get a piece of the RMT pie. Thats just my opinion though.
Terminal Entry New Fnord Industries	Posted - 2011.04.02 04:24:00 - [98] Originally by: Tippia àpersonally, I'd appreciate it if CCP told us what it is they're changing. Patch notes this a way --> Originally by: CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.02 04:33:00 - [99] Edited by: Tippia on 02/04/2011 04:34:07 Originally by: Terminal Entry Originally by: Tippia àpersonally, I'd appreciate it if CCP told us what it is they're changing. Patch notes this a way --> Yes, but the problem is this: they don't tell us what they have changed on a couple of occasions. For one, the change to NPC jamming: what has actually changed? It already works the way they say they've changed it to workà so what the difference before and after the patch? For another, the restrictions on key binds mentioned above: what has changed? What keys can we no longer bind? What is the "default schema" they refer to? (And that's not even touching the really interesting question of why on earth they're removing functionality for no adequately explained reason). Originally by: Terminal Entry Originally by: 1.4 Patch Notes All NPCs that use jamming have been streamlined in functionality and you can now fit your ship to counteract them. What does this mean for the Marauder class battleships? Their sensor strengths were pre-nerfed to the level of a cruiser. One of the justifications was that when up against NPCs it wouldn't matter. Now it does! It already matters because NPC jamming already works that way and you can already fit ECCM to counteract it. No answer has been given by CCP as to what has actually changed here. If I were to (maliciously) guess, nothing has changed ù they're just finally officially acknowledging a mechanic that has been in the game for several years. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Mirabi Tiane	Posted - 2011.04.02 04:54:00 - [100] Quote: The Sovereignty dashboard was found to be only updating current system information intermittently. The dashboard now updates immediately when pilots move between systems. What about the bug where, when you try to view the sovereignty info of a system other than the one you're currently in, it shows you the sovereignty info of the system you are currently in and you have to try again in order to get the correct info to load? Quote: In-game keyboard shortcuts are now inactive in the Character Creator. I hope the in-game screenshot keyboard shortcut is not being made inactive. If it is, I hope the very next patch reactivates it. _____________________________ [Sebiestor tattoos and Intaki hair: NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER.]

Teranul	Posted - 2011.04.02 05:06:00 - [101] Edited by: Teranul on 02/04/2011 05:06:04 Originally by: Rocius Is there any intention of adding the remainder of the current tattoos in an upcoming patch, perhaps? Also, any plans to introduce ink on the rest of our bodies? Someone really needs to watch the Fanfest art panel...
UJust Lost TheGAME	Posted - 2011.04.02 05:10:00 - [102] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS5IHVKRzwc rofl.
Kantrip	Posted - 2011.04.02 05:48:00 - [103] Originally by: UJust Lost TheGAME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS5IHVKRzwc rofl. This is honestly How I feel CCP looks and speaks towards their clients. The real question is.. after all the feed back and complaints. why is there really no reply other than we are still going ahead with this. EVE is a great game that has been slowly dragged down the toilet by total incompetent idea's and patchs. This is going to hurt the small alliances that have moved in 0.0. the larger alliance have the space already and isk to control there space.
Da Death Minmatar Relentless Enterprises Ore Federation	Posted - 2011.04.02 05:54:00 - [104] I wonder whether the REMOTE MANUFACTURING bug will be finally fixed. It was not fixed in the last patch. There is a way around the bug but for people who manufacture a lot its a click marathon. When will it be fixed? I didn't see that it will be fixed in the patch notes.... á BPOS: Absolution Curse Prorator Impel Vengeance T2 mods/Drones/Ammo Since 2003.
OH GOD NINJAS	Posted - 2011.04.02 06:45:00 - [105] I'd be mollified about the truesec changes if the lowest bracket had a single profitable site (a Haven) instead of zero. I understand that new alliances need space to gain a foothold, but even after billions in upgrades their members will find missions more rewarding. It's a good idea to rebalance the income from nullsec carebearing, but the 0.0 to -0.25 bracket simply has no use in my eye for supporting large or small alliances in 0.0.
Natasha Voljova	Posted - 2011.04.02 07:12:00 - [106] Edited by: Natasha Voljova on 02/04/2011 07:14:31 Edited by: Natasha Voljova on 02/04/2011 07:13:49 It looked otherwise decent but I don't in any shape or form understand why are they screwing the 0.0 players. I suck at making isk, therefore I am now cancelling this one of my three accounts because of the anomaly changes. Thanks CCP, I hope it was worth it. This change has exactly opposite effect from what they claim are the reasons. Im not going to even mention the good part of the patch because I am too angry.
Falkor1984	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:08:00 - [107] 77 pages of protests on forums against the ano-nerf, then CCP tells us they are thinking it thru again and then BLAM its on the patch list. Nice way to **** all over your customers.
Raid'En	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:20:00 - [108] Edited by: Raid''En on 02/04/2011 09:20:47 you still have a chance for your ano thing guys, it's stated on patch note it won't be live 1st day, so maybe if you continue they will rethink about it ;) Quote: Mobile warp disruptors will now show up on probe results as intended; previously they did not have sensor strengths so could not be found. Small/Medium/Large disruptors are now approximately as easy to find as Frigates/Cruisers/Battleships respectively. just find that on patch note, and i like :) lost bubble on w-space can finally be removed easily from overview ---------------- Wormhole Trading
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:49:00 - [109] Originally by: OH GOD NINJAS I'd be mollified about the truesec changes if the lowest bracket had a single profitable site (a Haven) instead of zero. I understand that new alliances need space to gain a foothold, but even after billions in upgrades their members will find missions more rewarding. It's a good idea to rebalance the income from nullsec carebearing, but the 0.0 to -0.25 bracket simply has no use in my eye for supporting large or small alliances in 0.0. it will make certain regions like providence totally useless, that's for sure. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Gehirnlos	Posted - 2011.04.02 10:00:00 - [110] Ok if this update will be finished is supose my corp will loss his 0.0 space and more then the half of my members will quit the game like they say it last week ..THX CCP for that... this update is destroing the work of more then 4 month from more then 80 people only in my corp .. and all over eve..do not know..destroying the work of years for more then thousends of players...

Woodiex3	Posted - 2011.04.02 11:19:00 - [111] I must say who ever pushed this through at CCP is going to have a some very intersting meetings coming up. after a sharp drop in subs. "how was a 5%-15% drop in subscriptions good for the game" reply "We have a better game for it" "more people are cancelling everyday" reply "people will soon start fighting for better space i promise, and come back" I feel sorry for the ppl at CCP who are trying to make a better game, not for the ppl trying to make a name for themselves. note to CCP ppl dont take well to being treated like chit and ask them to pay for it. no1 likes nerf's but normally there understandable. this one is not thats why there's such a reaction.
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.04.02 11:33:00 - [112] Originally by: Rocius Is there any intention of adding the remainder of the current tattoos in an upcoming patch, perhaps? Also, any plans to introduce ink on the rest of our bodies? Hopefully yes, also at Fanfest CCP showed us arm tattoos so that will come once readyÖ.
Glacius Prime Gallente Knights of the Old Code Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2011.04.02 11:35:00 - [113] This is the War on Lag guys! Don't worry, if they can't fix it, they will make sure no one can afford to be there! 2 months from now there will not be any 1200 people fighting in one system!!! because they will all run missions in empire or playing other games. GG CCP
whaynethepain The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.04.02 11:44:00 - [114] Yea, cool. Anyhow, I want more new people in EVE-O, and I want people moving round more, with more intensives to go exploring. All I see on TV is WOW adverts, and it has no auto pilot, not sure I liked collecting spider legs either. CCP should at least get some fly posting done around the city centres.
Ze Beeblebrox	Posted - 2011.04.02 12:01:00 - [115] In the Name of my Alliance ! I strongly protest against the devaluation of 0.0 space with truesec around -0.0 and -0.5 ! Whole regions are rendered nearly useless. Of our constellation we currently use only two out of eight systems remain at the original level the rest becomes utter crap ! A whole constellation utterly and totally **ed up ! We are a small alliance and the chance to upgrade a system on our own was our chance to give value to systems on our own. But now all we fought for ist becoming crap. Far away from empire, really hard to supply and then becoming you cannot upgrade anymore ! Looking at Tenerifis with the exception of a few systems the whole region becomes utter crap ! Who are the loosers there: all the small alliances like us ! Who are the winners there: the big alliances ! Fair sanctums and havens to the ones who economically farm their systems was the best thing you did ! now you kill it by pure ignorance and stupidity ! CCP you really should leave the system as it is ! It works ! So please just leave it alone and do focus on stuff which does not work ! My guys and me we are really mad about this ! So please put your brains on and do not fiddle with a working upgrade system ! Any change only would **up the small entities in this game again. In strong protest ! Ze Beeblebrox CEO Negotium Alliance
dosperado Denial of Service Freelancer Coalition	Posted - 2011.04.02 12:04:00 - [116] I miss the function to remove entries in the loyality points tab. I have so many npc corp entries there with low amount of LPs that I will never ever fly for. Please. ____________________ Security Status 9.0
skewbamatt	Posted - 2011.04.02 12:08:00 - [117] I normally don't ***** and complain, but as a Pure Blind resident this patch sucks!! (I know NC Care bear tears boohoo) I've ran maybe 4 sanctums in the past 2 months so I don't want to hear any of that crap. Can my corp get all its isk back that we blew on what will now be a worthless system? Thank god we hadn't put the station up yet! Guess from now on i'll take my aggression out on the noobs and macro haulers with my alt until I get over this rug pull
Terminal Entry New Fnord Industries	Posted - 2011.04.02 12:30:00 - [118] Originally by: Woodiex3 I must say who ever pushed this through at CCP is going to have a some very intersting meetings coming up. after a sharp drop in subs. "how was a 5%-15% drop in subscriptions good for the game" reply "We have a better game for it" "more people are cancelling everyday" reply "people will soon start fighting for better space i promise, and come back" I feel sorry for the ppl at CCP who are trying to make a better game, not for the ppl trying to make a name for themselves. note to CCP ppl dont take well to being treated like chit and ask them to pay for it. no1 likes nerf's but normally there understandable. this one is not thats why there's such a reaction. It would be nice to know what you are talking about. I suspect that it's the anomalies in 0.0. The quality of roids and rats are already based on the truesec through out Eve, why not anomalies? BTW I like the 5-15% figure, where did you pull that from? Originally by: CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.
Terminal Entry New Fnord Industries	Posted - 2011.04.02 12:35:00 - [119] Originally by: skewbamatt Can my corp get all its isk back that we blew on what will now be a worthless system? Thank god we hadn't put the station up yet! You rented space in Pure Blind! And by station you mean POS? Which can be taken down, if you ment Outpost then why would you give your landlord a freebie? Originally by: CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.
Shandir Minmatar Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.04.02 12:57:00 - [120] Lol at the nullbears who're appalled they might actually have to pay for their many accounts You guys got lazy and greedy, time to tighten your belt a notch or two. -

Jno Aubrey Galactic Patrol	Posted - 2011.04.02 13:20:00 - [121] Originally by: Terminal Entry Originally by: Woodiex3 I must say who ever pushed this through at CCP is going to have a some very intersting meetings coming up. after a sharp drop in subs. "how was a 5%-15% drop in subscriptions good for the game" reply "We have a better game for it" "more people are cancelling everyday" reply "people will soon start fighting for better space i promise, and come back" I feel sorry for the ppl at CCP who are trying to make a better game, not for the ppl trying to make a name for themselves. note to CCP ppl dont take well to being treated like chit and ask them to pay for it. no1 likes nerf's but normally there understandable. this one is not thats why there's such a reaction. It would be nice to know what you are talking about. I suspect that it's the anomalies in 0.0. The quality of roids and rats are already based on the truesec through out Eve, why not anomalies? BTW I like the 5-15% figure, where did you pull that from? An awful lot of nullsec dwellers like to think of themselves as the majority (or at least the only ones who are Important). The facts show that the opposite is true, certainly from a CCP economic perspective. As of the Q3 edition of the economic report, there were 600,000 (87%) characters located in Empire, and only 77,000 (10.7%) in nullsec. So, thinking that up to 15% of accounts are going to be cancelled over this is just a technicolor dream. So, 0.0 carebears, what can you do to improve your voting power? How about trying really hard to bring more people into nullsec and improve your influence with CCP? How about establishing proper industry wings and spending assets to protect and encourage them while they make you ISK and discounted ships? How about trying your hand at some of the other aspects of Eve than just blowing stuff up and then ratting to replace the stuff you had blown up? Eve is a rich and complex environment and there are a whole lot more ways to make ISK in 0.0 space than just running anomalies! Oh, and thanks CCP for fixing a bunch of the annoying "paper cuts" in this upcoming patch! __________________________________________________ Name a shrub after me; something prickly and hard to eradicate.
Rocius Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.04.02 13:29:00 - [122] Originally by: Teranul Edited by: Teranul on 02/04/2011 05:06:04 Someone really needs to watch the Fanfest art panel... Thanks, I'll watch that when I get a spare 40 minutes. Hopefully soon. Would still be nice if CCP was a little more clear than mud with some of the descriptions with patch notes. Originally by: Mashie Saldana Hopefully yes, also at Fanfest CCP showed us arm tattoos so that will come once readyÖ. Cool, just have to keep that little flame of hope alive :p
Jelek Coro Erase Rewind	Posted - 2011.04.02 13:44:00 - [123] Edited by: Jelek Coro on 02/04/2011 13:44:31 Originally by: Tippia It already matters because NPC jamming already works that way and you can already fit ECCM to counteract it. No answer has been given by CCP as to what has actually changed here. If I were to (maliciously) guess, nothing has changed ù they're just finally officially acknowledging a mechanic that has been in the game for several years. So to answer your question: unless CCP has actually changed something, this announcement means nothing for Marauders, or indeed for any other common NPC-killing ship. Stop talking crap. ECM from NPCs has always been random chance - what you fit can not counteract it. ECCM does not and has not worked - now it will. There is no evidence to the contrary.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.02 13:58:00 - [124] Edited by: Tippia on 02/04/2011 14:02:30 Originally by: Jelek Coro Stop talking crap. ECM from NPCs has always been random chance - what you fit can not counteract it. ECCM does not and has not worked - now it will. There is no evidence to the contrary. Wrong on every point. So until a dev comes in here and explains what they've actually changed, the only conclusion is that they're finally saying that "yes, this is how it works", not that they've recoded anything. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Erick Odin Amarr Local-Spike	Posted - 2011.04.02 15:01:00 - [125] Whats up with all the mighty 0.0 alliance guys talking about quitting and going to empire? Anybody planning to fight for better space?
Th3bl4ckr4bbit	Posted - 2011.04.02 15:26:00 - [126] Originally by: Erick Odin Whats up with all the mighty 0.0 alliance guys talking about quitting and going to empire? Anybody planning to fight for better space? Well if there is less isk in 0.0 people will move to empire ( jita 4-4 ) and start making isk there.... Ganking gives you isk for small risk and it gives pew pew . It's gonna be fun as said " your choices always come back around " that was the message from the " future vision "
Sandrila	Posted - 2011.04.02 15:44:00 - [127] Why should anyone start a fight? for annos? those systems will be permacamped by some neutrals.. It¦s even harder for smaller Corps/Allys to get a footage into 0.0, cause no one is fighting for Angel-HUBS and i won¦t pay any rent to a big Sov-holder for doing such annos... Btw there will be no fight, smaller Corps get kicked or raged out if the big bosses want your space..
Mamba Lev BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.02 16:21:00 - [128] NPC jamming can be countered by ECM, a) it should have been that way from the start and b) it serves no purpose but to annoy, doesn't add anything and just makes part of the game irritating. Find something else for caldari to do.
Tramadol Hydrochloride	Posted - 2011.04.02 16:24:00 - [129] It's time you started out sourcing your QA as you your current team has proved itself utterly useless time after time after time. Sack the morons and pay someone who knows what they are doing. Your QA is a joke.
ToXicPaIN Minmatar Strategic Solutions Ltd. Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.04.02 17:11:00 - [130] this patch SUCKS !!!!!

Halcyon Skyler	Posted - 2011.04.02 17:27:00 - [131] No one seems to be offering alternatives here... I think CCP's nullsec intention makes sense: make certain 0.0 systems better than others. That way large alliances have more to fight for, and small alliances have more scraps to start out in. The goal seems twofold: make bad truesec systems only appealing to small/weak alliances. make good truesec systems more appealing to large alliances. The problems achieving this goal are also twofold: Large alliances supplement individual incomes through moon goo (via ship replacement, etc.) and likely hold enough space to keep members ratting anyway. Small alliances only gain a foothold through ISK generation, which typically falls on the individual through ratting . Cutting all profitable sites (hubs are worse that missions) from 0.0 to -0.25 space will make those areas a wasteland. Small alliances won't have the income to support or defend those systems, and large alliances won't bother with them anyway. The change to anoms needs to make bad truesec systems unappealing, but not useless and limited in capacity. Random ideas being: Allow 1 haven in 0.0 to -0.25 instead of zero. That's still unappealing to a large alliance, but very useful to a small alliance Ensure that at least one system in a constellation has a truesec between 0.45 and 0.65. Keep the sites as-is, but adjust the quality of the rats that spawn based on truesec, reducing the net bounties / wallet tick. To prevent entire regions from going empty, there needs to be a minimum level of utility in nullsec. Even a terrible system should be useful to a small number of pilots. No alliance will bankroll itself off hubs. Finally, I don't see why CCP doesn't adjust the difficulty of anoms based on truesec. A sanctum that mostly spawns low-end battleship rats would prevent the psychological impact of losing the sites, while still reducing the utility of systems and ISK entering the game.
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.02 17:43:00 - [132] Originally by: Halcyon Skyler No one seems to be offering alternatives here... a bunch of ideas about how to make this suck less Your ideas are alright, except 1: lower truesec already is more valuable. There is a greater chance of multi-billion isk loot drops, better belt rats to the extent it's actually worth doing, and a bunch of other extremely valuable advantages most of us will never ever ever ever see (especially now that devs are cheating for them so they can hold it that much easier.) 2: Your good ideas would require effort and balance. Team Half-Ass lacks the competency to do either. They are doing this because it's easy, and it's proof that they wouldn't understand balance if it mounted them and went to town. 3: The devs were flat out lying about their goals. The only way this makes perfect sense, especially in context of other things they have said and done is if they are trying to drive up PLEX sales. They realize the big alliances have the isk stockpiles to survive quite a while without PLEX, but the small guys with small isk supplies would need PLEX to continue with what they're doing or relinquish trillions of isk of assets and thousands of man-hours (game-wide.) Expect this to lead to a PLEX-for-Titans "feature".
Halcyon Skyler	Posted - 2011.04.02 18:50:00 - [133] Originally by: mkmin 2: Your good ideas would require effort and balance. I'd be happy with just "0.0 to -0.25 keep one haven." That seems easy enough. But you're right, CCP is doing this because too much money is entering the game from nowhere. As much as we'll complain about changes, they are a business and need to keep an old game profitable. In the long-run people won't care about not having sanctums in certain areas. That said, the approach here is ham-fisted and very damaging to new 0.0 players. If CCP wants to reduce ratting income, tie bounties to truesec with the average being lower. Players need to support themselves in 0.0, otherwise they won't fight for it. Truesec should affect the number of players that a system can support, not the ability to support players at all. CCP is going too far by stripping all profitable sites from a large percentage of systems.
kKayron Jarvis Caldari Tech 3 Constructions	Posted - 2011.04.02 19:35:00 - [134] Wen is the DIGIPASS GO 6 go live?
Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.02 19:49:00 - [135] Well in my opinion, people who played by the rules for the past 17 months are now being punished. Visit http://www.evethink.com. Go there, vote if you want or do not want this change. It is API verified so only one vote per account. Go there, vote, then change your API if you're worried about security. It is important that we show CCP that not just a select few but MOST PEOPLE are opposed to this nerf.
Alice Katsuko Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.04.02 20:17:00 - [136] Originally by: Erick Odin Whats up with all the mighty 0.0 alliance guys talking about quitting and going to empire? Anybody planning to fight for better space? Alliance don't fight for anomalies or access to belt rats, contrary to whatever 'models' CCP allegedly has. I assume these are the same models which suggest that people will fight harder when they have less income. Individuals and corporations who will not be able to make ends meet in nullsec and who won't want to have to jump clone to Empire for lovely mission grinding when they're not being wardecced will simply join alliances which do have access to useful space.
CRA5HD0WN Caldari Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2011.04.02 22:35:00 - [137] Edited by: CRA5HD0WN on 02/04/2011 22:36:00 This patch list seems so miniscale... some things should have prob been here way earlier this year but I suppose CCP has to wait us out on something.
GambbiT	Posted - 2011.04.02 22:41:00 - [138] well probably some alliance will loose renters, drone region wont be affected bot will still rule in belts. but hey we can all join NC, nice and warm there , bff forever and we gone be smack by the rest of the 15% eve null sec . o well ccp scuks time after time again and again and again and again and again and again and again, and we still pay for our subscrition
Xorth Adimus Caldari The Hull Miners Union Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.04.03 00:38:00 - [139] 'The Flycatchers' bonus to Light Missile damage reduction factor per level has been changed to a missile explosion velocity bonus per level.' What a joke, Flycatchers cannot seriously fit launchers or even rockets due to the fitting requirements, and if you want to just fit one extender and probe launcher lol. And fit std launchers to kill ships lol. More April fools. Make this bonus a 10% bonus for missile and rocket explosion velocity per lvl and reduce the fitting requirements of rockets to that for small A/cs and I'll be happy. Whilst you are at it put another low on all dictors except sabres. This is just as unlikely.
Ordo Akin	Posted - 2011.04.03 03:54:00 - [140] Fixing lag is a good thing. Taking away the cookies after you already gave them out is a bad thing.

Super Whopper I can Has Cheeseburger	Posted - 2011.04.03 05:56:00 - [141] Thank you for rebalancing Tech moons, CCP. CCP Clueless succeeds at being as useless as it gets.
Terminal Entry New Fnord Industries	Posted - 2011.04.03 07:27:00 - [142] Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 02/04/2011 14:02:30 Originally by: Jelek Coro Stop talking crap. ECM from NPCs has always been random chance - what you fit can not counteract it. ECCM does not and has not worked - now it will. There is no evidence to the contrary. Wrong on every point. So until a dev comes in here and explains what they've actually changed, the only conclusion is that they're finally saying that "yes, this is how it works", not that they've recoded anything. Didn't see any Dev posts in that thread confirming they had done a stealth nerf/buff. But we do have the patch notes saying "...you can now fit your ship to counteract them" which seems to suggest that you couldn't before. When it comes to things like this I tend to believe CCP (naively?) as opposed to a non-CCP person, who looks more and more like a troll. Term. Originally by: CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.
Alice Katsuko Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.04.03 08:31:00 - [143] Originally by: CRA5HD0WN Edited by: CRA5HD0WN on 02/04/2011 22:36:00 This patch list seems so miniscale... some things should have prob been here way earlier this year but I suppose CCP has to wait us out on something. Dunno. I suspect that some of the seemingly-minor changes might have been surprisingly hard to code. More than that, most of the quality of life changes, from improving server and client performance to adding more default overviews to making the UI more user friendly are always very welcome. For that matter, while I may quite vehemently disagree with the manner in which the changes to nullsec space have been implemented, the underlying goals, both stated and unstated, are far from terrible.
crymyname	Posted - 2011.04.03 09:30:00 - [144] there is a problem and we see that a lot of people see it ... but when they start to leave because ccp has been seen to make to many mistakes ...will they come back ?? as some have said people will move into mining .. and as such ore prices will fall and as ships wont be needed as fast the whole of eve economy will stall and die and more will leave ... CCP BE VERY CAREFUL ON WHAT YOUR ABOUT TO DO ...
Samuel Wess	Posted - 2011.04.03 11:22:00 - [145] Maybe try not to put the big clouds and annoying lights in all new plexes, so I can actually enjoy the plex not zoomed out to max ? Also when will be an option to reduce sun intensity so i don't have to use my ship always to block it ? I know i have a problem staring at an intense light for long periods! me
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.03 11:22:00 - [146] "The new search function for contracts has left beta and the old search has been removed." PLEASE DONT Having 2 separate contract search windows is great. I can use old one to list particular region contracts, and If i find something interesting I can click "find in contracts" on it to compare global prices. This will be impossible when 1.4 removes old search :( CCP created something good (above scenario) by accident, but sadly they are about to "fix it" :(
Lemming Alpha1dash1 Lemmings Online	Posted - 2011.04.03 11:47:00 - [147] Amarr robe has been improved. I'm guessing Amarr players requested for robe flashing
Kuni Wah	Posted - 2011.04.03 12:06:00 - [148] Originally by: Kuni Wah Edited by: Kuni Wah on 01/04/2011 16:42:26 Are any of the updates in this patch going to stop those with non shader 3 set-ups logging back in after it? (Yes i know this is the date that anything less than S3 is no longer supported so this isnt a complaint, more a heads-up to any others like myself who are in the process of upgrading their rig.) as the above post doesnt seem to warrant a response from CCP, i guess all of us with 'older' set-ups dont matter anymore.
Terminal Entry New Fnord Industries	Posted - 2011.04.03 13:20:00 - [149] Originally by: Kuni Wah Originally by: Kuni Wah Edited by: Kuni Wah on 01/04/2011 16:42:26 Are any of the updates in this patch going to stop those with non shader 3 set-ups logging back in after it? (Yes i know this is the date that anything less than S3 is no longer supported so this isnt a complaint, more a heads-up to any others like myself who are in the process of upgrading their rig.) as the above post doesnt seem to warrant a response from CCP, i guess all of us with 'older' set-ups dont matter anymore. There was an announcement in one of the Fanfest presentations. From memory, they said they wouldn't stop shader model 2 clients form logging in but they wouldn't be giving any support to any problems encountered. I think there was time limit as well of 6 months. If my memory servers me correctly they also said about 0.6% of all loggins was from clients with shader 2. Originally by: CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.
Lee Anderson Caldari Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.04.03 13:28:00 - [150] Originally by: Skaarl Originally by: CCP Fallout Originally by: XFluke Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. This would be a good opportunity to point out the myriad blogs we recently published on this very issue. The War on Lag is something we take very seriously, and we are constantly in the trenches fighting it. Suite of Upgrades to the TQ database - Yokai details a ton of upgrades we've made to Tranquility recently Flow Control is a new thing we've added, and Mort's blog gives the juicy details Missiles still hate Veritas' hamsters, but he's winning that war This page also details some of the things we've introduced with EVE Online: Incursion. reminding people that in x days, c hours x min and x seconds your going to screw over massive amounts of your customers may not be the best way to handle these changes. Why do you pay for the game if its so bad? I been playing almost 3 years and CCP has done a great job so stop QQing/trolling O_O

Striker4ever Gallente Nex Exercitus Raiden.	Posted - 2011.04.03 13:39:00 - [151] Originally by: CCP Fallout Originally by: XFluke Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. This would be a good opportunity to point out the myriad blogs we recently published on this very issue. The War on Lag is something we take very seriously, and we are constantly in the trenches fighting it. Suite of Upgrades to the TQ database - Yokai details a ton of upgrades we've made to Tranquility recently Flow Control is a new thing we've added, and Mort's blog gives the juicy details Missiles still hate Veritas' hamsters, but he's winning that war This page also details some of the things we've introduced with EVE Online: Incursion. OK recently i was in a fleet battle of 500+ in F-D49d. The lag wasn't bad but it could have been better with command delays about 30sec to 1min. Compared to fleet battles like o2o and PNQ where system is loaded with over 1000. Hopefully CCP continues to push faster towards a higher goal considering most massive fleet battles ive been in are always over 1000. while a regular fleet battle usually is 400+ in system Kill or be Killed
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.03 13:46:00 - [152] Originally by: Terminal Entry Didn't see any Dev posts in that thread confirming they had done a stealth nerf/buff. No, but the fact remains: tests have shown that high sensor strength already works just fine against NPC jamming ù in fact, it works exactly as you'd expect if they were using the same jamming rules as players. Quote: But we do have the patch notes saying "...you can now fit your ship to counteract them" which seems to suggest that you couldn't before. When it comes to things like this I tend to believe CCP (naively?) as opposed to a non-CCP person, who looks more and more like a troll. As did everyone else. Long before that thread came out, there was plenty anecdotal evidence that jamming didn't work the way CCP said it did, but it was almost always squashed by the very same quote you provided. However, with that bit of thorough testing that sturmwolke did, it's now pretty much proven that CCP are wrong. If it was just a flat chance, the same NPC ships would not get any more or any less failed jam attempts if you change your ship's sensor strength, but they did. If it was a flat chance, the same NPCs would have the same success ratio regardless of what race ship you were in, that didn't happen. Just the fact that there was any variance at all show that CCP were wrong ù the fact that the variance adhered exactly to the success rate you'd expect from standard jamming makes them wrong:er and the fact that it was possible to infer the different jamming strengths against different sensor types makes them wrong:iestà Maybe it did work like they said back before Trinity, but it no longer does, and they would have to provide a pretty excellent explanation for the why the tests came out the way they did if they want to keep claiming that. Until they do, the only way for the patch notes to be consistent with empirically proven mechanics is if they're simply finally and officially confirming mechanics that have actually worked that way for a very long timeà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Kuni Wah	Posted - 2011.04.03 15:25:00 - [153] Originally by: Terminal Entry stuff Thanks. Yea I know there could be issues, my main point is that originally S2 was set to be obsolete from Summer 2011 (as originally announced by CCP). The budgeting for my new rig took this original announcement onboard and everything was okay until the latest announcement about the patch this tuesday. Im honestly not bothered if I cant play the game, as long as I can at least log in to update my skill queue. If not, then CCP have just done their usual shafting of a certain % of the Eve community by completely ignoring what they previously announced. April is not Summer imo.
PLEX Purchaser	Posted - 2011.04.03 19:43:00 - [154] Meh.. Played a lot of other MMO's, Final Fantasy XI , FF XIV , Wow , and a fair few others.. I paid a hefty amount for other mmo's upwards to 80$ ~ 100$ USD for some.. Of the majority of MMOs I played, we got new major content patches about once every 2 years and had to pay for it, another 45$ for each expansion.. same with most Main stream MMO's .. Content comes slow and they almost always charge more money for it right along with having to continue paying your subscriptions.. minor bug fixes would come from time to time and other then that you don't get much else other then your next bill... Since starting Eve online.. I have enjoy numerous content updates and bug fixes, and I have not paid nothing more then my subs, "which is surprising." I can also read fairly well so I have also noticed the Dev Blogs explaining Lag, why it is so, and what they have been doing about it.. along with what they intend to do about it.. So I understand with no need to complain that they are doing everything they can and that they are also still giving us Bug fix's and new content at the same time.. Oh yeah and the 0.0 to true sec changes for plexs and anomalies etc.. are you guys not living in 0.0 for PvP and conquest etc.. from my point of view these changes give reason to fight and conquer space.. if you really have an issue with this just go back to high sec where you belong lol.. cause clearly if you fear for your ability to live in 0.0 with true sec, then you must not have much regard for your alliance mates as to there ability to conquer and hold space of higher value :( I am a more then satisfied consumer.. my money seems to go a lot farther in Eve online I have multiple accounts and although there are issues in the game and everything isn't 100% perfect the game has more to offer then most other games and is still giving me free content.. even if some of it isn't exactly what I wanted personally, I'm not 12 years old and gonna act like I can speak for the entire Eve community by saying something like "Once again CCP fails to listen to there customers" or "I pay my subs so we own this game, do as I say, arrr" Instead will say that, I'm sorry but Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the entire community doesn't like it or parts of it.. CCP probably doesn't give a ** if you personally don't like every feature they add in there game (and I don't blame them) and here is a interesting fact.. I watched Fanfest, and they said it had been 18 months since last Fanfest and there user base has increased 20% in that time.. so would have to say that not only is the majority of players fairly happy with the game but they also managed to have a growth of 20% of new players/accounts, and are growing steady still.. so sounds like CCP is doing a pretty damn impressively good job to me. not only that Plex system is awesome, someone else complain that CCP would lose money because they would not be able to maintain there subs with the true sec changes in 0.0.. come on really? lol said something like I do sanctums 5 or 6 days a month to pay for 6 accounts and pvp the rest of the month.. so if they remove them there losing 4 of your paid subs.. OMG you might have to do a couple more days of PvE to pay for you subs .. LoL until your alliance pulls together to conquer some space that has the plexs you desire!! maybe it's just me, but I kinda feel like, if your maintaining 6 accounts you gotta serious addiction and I doubt that CCP gonna have to worry about losing money from you.. But hey, Is just my 2 ISK worth of Input.. oh wait, CCP you suck, this patch is total .. wtf doesn't the new forums have a censor for 12 year old's *ing about not giving the community what they want, when they obviously have no **ing clue what the community wants. I demand the censorship feature for morons on the new forums! I paid my subs so I Paid for this game!! Do as I say, or ima cancel 4 of my alts!
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.04 06:45:00 - [155] Originally by: XFluke Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. So you are just cruising through not looking at the stuff they are doing to fix lag and only looking at news about incarna. Great. Good for you. You do understand that just because it's a incursion patch doesn't mean it's automatically only eyecandy? Perhaps you should actually follow the dev blogs more...in general. Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Gibbo3771	Posted - 2011.04.04 07:52:00 - [156] Your fixing things that have been broken for 5 years...wtf is the point, we have come to accept the fact the game is like that. Fix meaningful stuff like the array of useless t3 subs and the crap POS management system you have had for far too fkin long
Steal Spirit	Posted - 2011.04.04 08:00:00 - [157] Seems the issues with missing icons (ships, drones and their corresponding bpos) isn't fixed http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1457432
Aderata Nonkin Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.04 08:27:00 - [158] Originally by: Drunk **** The simplest thing this patch is gonna do is reduce ccp's income, so i dont think the anomolie changes will last long... You've got an appropriate name, I must say. My suggestion is you grab your bottle of Bell's and leave the game when you're so unhappy. -)Peace through supreme firepower(-**

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.04 09:03:00 - [159] To clarify, since a couple of people were asking. With this patch everyone will get a chance to re-sculpt their character. When you log in and select your character you will be asked if you want to enter character creator, and there you will be able to re-sculpt. You can also skip this step, for the time being or you can select permanently to not be asked again. Whatever you do, you will after this patch always have access to the re-customization service in stations, where you can change your clothes, hair and makeup, you can get piercings, tattoos, and even get scarified.

Pookie McPook	Posted - 2011.04.04 09:10:00 - [160] Originally by: Drunk ****** Edited by: Drunk ***** on 01/04/2011 18:42:35* The simplest thing this patch is gonna do is reduce ccp's income, so i dont think the anomolie changes will last long... ... ... ... whine whine whine ... ... May not seem like much, but 400,000 subs, say 50% of them will be affected by this change, and 50% of them pay by ingame, going by my loss of income of 4 out of 6. Means you lose 66,000 accounts worth of isk per month. 66,000 x $15 = $990,000 lost income for ccp. wonder if your financial adviser pointed this out to you... I would say you're out by at least an order of magnitude. Maybe 2% (tops) affected....of which maybe 20% pay by plex....then your arbitrary 4 of 6....I'd say 1000 accounts....maybe.....and that's pessimistic. Get a job and pay for the accounts if you can't make money in game imo. ----- Marmite. Rocket fuel of champions.

Achrius Caldari Galactic Federation of Lolis	Posted - 2011.04.04 11:05:00 - [161] Originally by: PLEX Purchaser Meh.. Played a lot of other MMO's, Final Fantasy XI , FF XIV , Wow , and a fair few others.. I paid a hefty amount for other mmo's upwards to 80$ ~ 100$ USD for some.. Of the majority of MMOs I played, we got new major content patches about once every 2 years and had to pay for it, another 45$ for each expansion.. same with most Main stream MMO's .. Content comes slow and they almost always charge more money for it right along with having to continue paying your subscriptions.. minor bug fixes would come from time to time and other then that you don't get much else other then your next bill... Since starting Eve online.. I have enjoy numerous content updates and bug fixes, and I have not paid nothing more then my subs, "which is surprising." I can also read fairly well so I have also noticed the Dev Blogs explaining Lag, why it is so, and what they have been doing about it.. along with what they intend to do about it.. So I understand with no need to complain that they are doing everything they can and that they are also still giving us Bug fix's and new content at the same time.. Oh yeah and the 0.0 to true sec changes for plexs and anomalies etc.. are you guys not living in 0.0 for PvP and conquest etc.. from my point of view these changes give reason to fight and conquer space.. if you really have an issue with this just go back to high sec where you belong lol.. cause clearly if you fear for your ability to live in 0.0 with true sec, then you must not have much regard for your alliance mates as to there ability to conquer and hold space of higher value :( I am a more then satisfied consumer.. my money seems to go a lot farther in Eve online I have multiple accounts and although there are issues in the game and everything isn't 100% perfect the game has more to offer then most other games and is still giving me free content.. even if some of it isn't exactly what I wanted personally, I'm not 12 years old and gonna act like I can speak for the entire Eve community by saying something like "Once again CCP fails to listen to there customers" or "I pay my subs so we own this game, do as I say, arrr" Instead will say that, I'm sorry but Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the entire community doesn't like it or parts of it.. CCP probably doesn't give a ** if you personally don't like every feature they add in there game (and I don't blame them) and here is a interesting fact.. I watched Fanfest, and they said it had been 18 months since last Fanfest and there user base has increased 20% in that time.. so would have to say that not only is the majority of players fairly happy with the game but they also managed to have a growth of 20% of new players/accounts, and are growing steady still.. so sounds like CCP is doing a pretty damn impressively good job to me. not only that Plex system is awesome, someone else complain that CCP would lose money because they would not be able to maintain there subs with the true sec changes in 0.0.. come on really? lol said something like I do sanctums 5 or 6 days a month to pay for 6 accounts and pvp the rest of the month.. so if they remove them there losing 4 of your paid subs.. OMG you might have to do a couple more days of PvE to pay for you subs .. LoL until your ** alliance pulls together to conquer some space that has the plexs you desire!! maybe it's just me, but I kinda feel like, if your maintaining 6 accounts you gotta serious addiction and I doubt that CCP gonna have to worry about losing money from you.. But hey, Is just my 2 ISK worth of Input.. Exactly what I've been thinking as well. While CCP isn't perfect as certain people are complaining about, CCP is by far, the best in the business.
wavseeker	Posted - 2011.04.04 11:11:00 - [162] when is the server back online? im in belgium its 13:11 now
Capt Terror	Posted - 2011.04.04 11:45:00 - [163] Originally by: Sarmatiko Originally by: Jhekarn Hasamura i play EvE with 2 accounts and earn the most of my isk for ships and pvp with doing sanctums and heavens - this new change will completly decrase my ways to earn isk in 0.0 to zero. Nullsec carebears must suffer. If you want to farm from now you can pay your monthly rental fee to the ~~CEO~~ tzar in other region Its good to hear that CCP at last done something with all this countless ~~bots~~ carebears that logoff in seconds after you appear in local \o/ You are forgetting that the pvpers let me are also crying now we have no way to keep fighting and loseing ships meaning that people like you will start to get less and less fights to the point that their is going to be more of a grind to make the isk to buy the T2 ships or the T1 BSes. Also this is comeing from someone who has always pay for the monthly with RL money in not In-game isk. But from the looks of it I think more ppls are either going to leave 0.0 cause regions let Pure Blind have no good systems at all and they forgot to nerf High Sec or Low Sec so now you got L4 mission runners makeing more money than somebody in the region likee pure blind. So why will players from high sec or low sec leave to make the same amount of isk or less at greater risk vs. rewards. I don't know but I think that alot of 0.0 alliances will leave 0.0 cause the cost to fuel to upgraded systems are not worth it, oh well CCP I hope this is what yall wanted.
Cyno Alfacinha	Posted - 2011.04.04 13:00:00 - [164] Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. so very true :(
Jairen Armana	Posted - 2011.04.04 13:17:00 - [165] Originally by: Cyno Alfacinha Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. so very true :( ack :( Quote: Some alliances will immediately start wanting to look for better space Just a few that allready looking forward to this ... all other don't won't do that. Quote: Newer alliances will have an easier time getting a foothold in nullsec just in your dreams in the current universe state Quote: Alliances will have to choose more carefully what space they develop, where their staging systems are, and so on (low truesec systems generally tend to be in strategically inconvenient places) uhmmmm .... NO
Atridies	Posted - 2011.04.04 14:42:00 - [166] Edited by: Atridies on 04/04/2011 14:43:00 Robbed of 1.5b by a bug last week, takes CCP 1 week to respond ((Telling me to **** off) (Convineintly 1 day after my subscription renews, when I talk of quitting)) Promptly followed by extended downtime (and probably many more) on my day off, to introduce a patch nobody really wants. Sounds to me like it's cancellation time. +- 7 years of loyal membership on one account or another, just to be ignored. Nice one CCP! Editted with CCP's response to my petition.
Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.04 15:28:00 - [167] I guess this means the astro-glide is on back order.
Spacewarp	Posted - 2011.04.04 15:32:00 - [168] Edited by: Spacewarp on 04/04/2011 15:33:06 Damp...:) Why are so many complaining? The country i live in take half of my income. And when I go to the shop with the other half....they take another 20% in taxes of my money. And even after paying so much I still cant go as fast on the highway as I want and they (the government) still dont do what i want them to do. So then, complaning that CCP dont do your bidding for a lousy Ç12/month? :) I am not yet been in 1000+ player wars so i dont have the lag issue and like new stuff more then that money is spent on lag fighting. For other people its the other way round and there will be 1000's of oppinions what to do first. But I like the game, its just, like real life, never perfect for all. And maybe it will not even ever be perfect for one. But its the package you get and its the package i like. And luckily its so for more people or I would be divorced by my wife by now i guess :p I played other mmo's. Never did i see one that updates his players so often and complete. I really like the way they tackling now the 1000 (or something like that) little annoying things. And still developed new stuff. So ccp, dont cry...someone(s) still love you :) (and 360k players with me) regards
vampa spatiala	Posted - 2011.04.04 15:33:00 - [169] Deployment of our next patch, EVE Online: Incursion 1.4, has been postponed until Wednesday, April 6. Tranquility will be taken offline at 09:00 UTC and is expected to return to service at 15:00 UTC. We would like to thank you for your patience and understanding. Patch notes are available here and a discussion thread can be found here. patience ????!!!! understanding ????!!!!!! may be in April 6 2050
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.04 15:46:00 - [170] Edited by: henchana on 04/04/2011 15:47:35 Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. Didn't you read about the Hamsters in the patch note! That will impact LEG-work (ever seen a hamster in a thread mill?)

Shandir Minmatar Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.04.04 15:59:00 - [171] Looking forward to the little things in this patch. Just putting one more positive voice out there. -
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.04 15:59:00 - [172] This reminds me a lot of my days playing WoW, and patch notes and subsequent threads. Most people whine and moan that it's the end of the world, some support the changes. Some don't care. In the end, the actual impact is much smaller than the doomsayers made it out to be. There was no mass exodus of subscribers. Chill people. It's just a game; if these patch notes are seriously making you want to quit, then you're taking it way too seriously. And you probably shouldn't be playing in the first place. On the other hand it is really nice to see nullsec players be the ones QQ'ing for once. It's a nice change of pace.
John Burdell The Knights Templar R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.04 16:23:00 - [173] Edited by: John Burdell on 04/04/2011 16:24:20 It's a shame that the anom changes are still in the patch, with a 77+ page thread of people expressing a mostly negative response, at the very least I would have thought CCP would step back, delay that part and see why. Its not so much the losses of income that has only been around for a while that is bad about this change, its that (from my understanding) they didn't go to the CSM at all about it and had to know that the majority of 0.0 would not like this, but decided to do it anyway, players be damned. Also, it was with dominion that CCP gave us the opportunity to anchor ihubs, install upgrades and generally make our space worth living in, this patch removes that as far as the majority of people in 0.0 perceive it (the ones that rat for income). CCP says this will allow smaller alliances to take space now, which is nonsense. With dominion's system upgrades, 0.0 systems with the better anomalies could support a much higher player density living in them, which means alliances did not need to have the vast territory that was mostly empty. Now we are back to needing that, room to have sanctums and havens (the only anoms really worth bothering with) randomly spawn as well as the complex's (which US TZ gets screwed out of anyhow). Get ready for the return of massive drake blobs and the server crying over missiles, thats what pilot will be able to afford to field in the fleets. Lastly, I hope CCP intends to offer refunds for the anom upgrades for systems that are now worthless. RAGE Alliance space will go from every corp getting Dominion upgraded Sanctums and Havens for their work in upgrading the system, to our part of the Vale only having FOUR SYSTEMS that spawn those types at all. edit; "Risk/Reward Scaling" was such a bull**** excuse for this its laughable, go remove L4 missions except 0.5 and 0.6 systems in high-sec and see what kind of response you get... then ignore it and do it anyway.
Aderata Nonkin Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.04 16:23:00 - [174] Originally by: Atridies to introduce a patch nobody really wants. Speak for yourself, tough guy. Quote: Sounds to me like it's cancellation time. Good riddance! Don't forget to contract your stuff to me before you buzz off. æIf you are not big enough to lose, then you are not big enough to win.Æ
yieasase Liga Freier Terraner Ev0ke	Posted - 2011.04.04 16:31:00 - [175] World of Evecraft - baby yo yo
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.04 16:44:00 - [176] Edited by: henchana on 04/04/2011 16:44:52 I've been on the verge of quitting a few times in the three (3) years I've been playing EvE. luckily I never did Instead I found new ways to play and enjoy! Sad to say I've never been further than 0.2 because I can't sustain the higher risk of loosing ships and isk with no or little gain. I allways balance risk and benefit against the joy or pride it brings to rip it off. To "hear" in local: "Darn, I allmost had her" or "%&#k where did he go???" makes it all worth the effort. But in an other 3 years maybe I'll see it differently. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK CCP
Degara Farat Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.04 17:00:00 - [177] Strange. Despite a neglected feedback thread on how bad it is to nerf the playability and income from 40% of Nullsec inhabitants they do think its needed to improve the playability of the habitants of Amarr (1.0 sec) because people cant wait until they clear the station undock before hitting warp. You should be ashamed.
Orian NiKunni Orian's EvE Communications	Posted - 2011.04.04 17:54:00 - [178] Edited by: Orian NiKunni on 04/04/2011 17:55:09 I remember another mmo that decided to do a certain change with a large portion of its member-base pleading with the developers NOT to install the changes... but they went and did it anyway. That mmo lost a large portion of its older playerbase and is now nothing but a shell of it's former self. Hey CCP, get a ****ing clue...
Lovisa18	Posted - 2011.04.04 18:08:00 - [179] So is this the patch the change the sanctums!?
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.04.04 18:21:00 - [180] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee To clarify, since a couple of people were asking. With this patch everyone will get a chance to re-sculpt their character. When you log in and select your character you will be asked if you want to enter character creator, and there you will be able to re-sculpt. You can also skip this step, for the time being or you can select permanently to not be asked again. Whatever you do, you will after this patch always have access to the re-customization service in stations, where you can change your clothes, hair and makeup, you can get piercings, tattoos, and even get scarified. I suggest doing the same after Incarna's release, seeing as avatars can look very different in different lighting and at different angels and distances. Also, we need to adjust height!

cilayin Amarr The Ankou Raiden.	Posted - 2011.04.04 18:47:00 - [181] Time to que up fighter bombers to 5? :3 haha kidding of course............................................. It's simple. Just take the hydraulic phase shift emulator and attach it to the trans-dimensional photon emitter.
Hatsumi Kobayashi Rens 911 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2011.04.04 19:10:00 - [182] I would like to remind to all that are currently unhappy with their space's truesec that Pandemic Legion has many stations and systems for sale in Delve, one of the best regions for havens and sanctum. Contact Fintroll, Shadoo, MissBolyai or Elise Randolph for more information. _____
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.04.04 19:27:00 - [183] Originally by: manidu Thanks for listening to the feedback thread about the anomaly changes. NOT! Clearly CCP has listened to all the self-defeating arguments and decided to act accordingly. Speed-nerf had an outcry of similar proportions and the game has become much better for it. ...
flank steak	Posted - 2011.04.04 19:37:00 - [184] Its funny because all of the people with 2+ accounts are claiming they are going to cancel all of them, but in reality if they did, their lives would consist of potato chips and House re-runs
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.04 19:39:00 - [185] Originally by: Razin Originally by: manidu Thanks for listening to the feedback thread about the anomaly changes. NOT! Clearly CCP has listened to all the self-defeating arguments and decided to act accordingly. Speed-nerf had an outcry of similar proportions and the game has become much better for it. The speef nerf was unknown territory for the most part, no one knew how things would turn out. Reducing baseline 0.0 ratting incomes below those available in empire via lvl 4 missions is because because we KNOW it is bad. That's the way things were about a year and a half ago which a major patch, Dominion, was aimed at fixing. Was trash sec 0.0 overly buffed? Perhaps. And there have been very good solutions in this thread for fixing that without turning back the clock (tieing anomoly BS rat value to true sec similar to belt ratting is my fave). The CCP change to 0.0 income is extreme and there's no balancing of lvl 4's to keep 0.0 relativly attractive compared to the safe earning grounds in empire ---
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.04.04 20:00:00 - [186] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde Was trash sec 0.0 overly buffed? Perhaps. And there have been very good solutions in this thread for fixing that without turning back the clock (tieing anomoly BS rat value to true sec similar to belt ratting is my fave). The CCP change to 0.0 income is extreme and there's no balancing of lvl 4's to keep 0.0 relativly attractive compared to the safe earning grounds in empire I'm sure there is a better way to fix this, however the massive ISK faucet had to be closed. Additionally, flat economic topology for 0.0 was doing nothing good for EVE's endgame. With this change we're only back to the pre-Dominion methods of ISK generation, with the possible benefit of smaller blobs and more 0.0 dynamism. Nothing so dramatic as to require a 70+ page threadnaught. All that shows is that players have become spoiled by easy income generation. As far as fixing 0.0 though its back to the drawing board for CCP. ...
Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.04 20:06:00 - [187] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee To clarify, since a couple of people were asking. With this patch everyone will get a chance to re-sculpt their character. When you log in and select your character you will be asked if you want to enter character creator, and there you will be able to re-sculpt. You can also skip this step, for the time being or you can select permanently to not be asked again. Whatever you do, you will after this patch always have access to the re-customization service in stations, where you can change your clothes, hair and makeup, you can get piercings, tattoos, and even get scarified. Because re-sculpting my character was my top priority. I defiantly think that ignoring the thousands of complaints that have been voiced on the forum against the 0.0 nerf should completely warrant CCP ignoring them and addressing people's concerns for redoing their portrait... If you are in serious about changes to the game why not consult the CSM first? If it is really a good idea, you'd at least seek multiple group's input rather than just making an arbitrary change. In an API verified poll, allowing each account to only vote once, 93% of those accounts are AGAINST the 0.0 nerf. 93%... not 53... not 73... 93%... CLEARLY it is a great idea.... WAKE UP CCP Click this link if you think I'm full of crap about the 93% percent too... http://www.evethink.com/?viewvote=true If you disagree... vote for the changes
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.04 20:21:00 - [188] Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: CCP Bella Bee To clarify, since a couple of people were asking. With this patch everyone will get a chance to re-sculpt their character. When you log in and select your character you will be asked if you want to enter character creator, and there you will be able to re-sculpt. You can also skip this step, for the time being or you can select permanently to not be asked again. Whatever you do, you will after this patch always have access to the re-customization service in stations, where you can change your clothes, hair and makeup, you can get piercings, tattoos, and even get scarified. Because re-sculpting my character was my top priority. I defiantly think that ignoring the thousands of complaints that have been voiced on the forum against the 0.0 nerf should completely warrant CCP ignoring them and addressing people's concerns for redoing their portrait... If you are in serious about changes to the game why not consult the CSM first? If it is really a good idea, you'd at least seek multiple group's input rather than just making an arbitrary change. In an API verified poll, allowing each account to only vote once, 93% of those accounts are AGAINST the 0.0 nerf. 93%... not 53... not 73... 93%... CLEARLY it is a great idea.... WAKE UP CCP Click this link if you think I'm full of crap about the 93% percent too... http://www.evethink.com/?viewvote=true If you disagree... vote for the changes I'm extremely against the 0.0 nerf. It's a bug "** you" from CCP to it's players, and the trillions of isk and thousands of man hours expended to turn -hole space into something worthwhile. However, polls are stupid. All you've proven is that 93% of people who agree with you, agree with you, and 7% of people trolling you are trolling you. Also, I totally agree that CCP's refusal to address player concerns is another big " you" to us all regardless of the position any of us take on the issue. That the only dev response to the uproar on this godawful patch is "but you get a resculpt to make up for us betraying you, the people who have made what would otherwise be a **ty bargain bin game into something great" adds only insult to injury.
The GreenT	Posted - 2011.04.04 20:34:00 - [189] Originally by: mkmin That the only dev response to the uproar on this godawful patch is "but you get a resculpt to make up for us betraying you, the people who have made what would otherwise be a ****ty bargain bin game into something great" adds only insult to injury. LOL, your quite full of yourself. Yup, without the droves of whiny poor carebears in 0.0 who give oral pleasure to their ridiculously rich overlords for being able to attend CTA's. Get the money out of their pockets and remove this faucet. BTW, in case you forgot, this game has a lot more to offer than just 0.0.
mkmin	Posted - 2011.04.04 20:49:00 - [190] Originally by: The GreenT Originally by: mkmin That the only dev response to the uproar on this godawful patch is "but you get a resculpt to make up for us betraying you, the people who have made what would otherwise be a **ty bargain bin game into something great" adds only insult to injury. LOL, your quite full of yourself. Yup, without the droves of whiny poor carebears in 0.0 who give oral pleasure to their ridiculously rich overlords for being able to attend CTA's. Get the money out of their pockets and remove this faucet. BTW, in case you forgot, this game has a lot more to offer than just 0.0. The only thing the game has to offer is the player interaction. Pong had better PVE. Asteroids had better mining. If I really wanted to sculpt I would buy some clay. The only value of EVE is the players, and CCP is giving all the players a big "** you" with both the content of this patch, and how they are failing to respond to player concerns.

Johnny Blademan	Posted - 2011.04.04 23:36:00 - [191] Thanks CCP, More avatar portraits? New forums? Johnny sees the ball being dropped.
Nypheas Azurai	Posted - 2011.04.04 23:37:00 - [192] Quote: ò An issue with removing the female bra within character creation has been fixed, unfortunately.
ACESsiggy Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.04 23:48:00 - [193] Thanks for the update and look forward to the new features, however though, I'm more pumped for my new captains' quarters muahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eta on sisi yet?
Tyme Xandr Gallente Dark Circle Enforcement	Posted - 2011.04.05 00:07:00 - [194] Now i gotta put 10+ day skills in .... damnit .. messin up my skill plan [≡v≡]
Tyme Xandr Gallente Dark Circle Enforcement	Posted - 2011.04.05 00:09:00 - [195] Originally by: ACESsiggy Thanks for the update and look forward to the new features, however though, I'm more pumped for my new captains' quarters muahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eta on sisi yet? They said sometime this week maybe, so id say in 30-45 days ... [≡v≡]
crashchick	Posted - 2011.04.05 00:49:00 - [196] Hope this patch will fix the other invention jobs as well like hulks etc. not just the Large Core Defence Field Extender II
Riveth	Posted - 2011.04.05 00:51:00 - [197] I thought this was a Sand box? Ohwait--
Jennifer Drama	Posted - 2011.04.05 01:24:00 - [198] Originally by: flank steak Its funny because all of the people with 2+ accounts are claiming they are going to cancel all of them, but in reality if they did, their lives would consist of potato chips and House re-runs Excuse me, what do you have against House re-runs? AND potato chips?
Flashrain	Posted - 2011.04.05 01:55:00 - [199] Would DED complexes finally hit drone regions or are we getting shafted again?
Terminal Entry New Fnord Industries	Posted - 2011.04.05 02:34:00 - [200] Edited by: Terminal Entry on 05/04/2011 02:34:51 Originally by: Nypheas Azurai Quote: ò An issue with removing the female bra within character creation has been fixed, unfortunately. Does anyone know how this is done? I would like to play with.. err research this issue before the patch. Originally by: CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.

Lazureus Falcone Minmatar Rogue.	Posted - 2011.04.05 03:17:00 - [201] I have to restrain myself in anticipation for this patch.. Some of the items in the patch notes I have been waiting for, for quite a while. I'm also glad to see that the Nullsec boters are in a fit and leaving.. now all that is left is the highsec mining bots. Keep up the great work CCP
Ze Beeblebrox	Posted - 2011.04.05 05:10:00 - [202] This patch would destroy/invalidate more assets of my small alliance than our worst enemy could have done ! And it outright drives our alliance out of 0.0 again as this space gets worthless for us ! So, if this idiocy gets through, I may consider disbanding my alliance and cancelling all of my subcriptions as I feel I do not want to continue playing and paying for a game whose operators f*ck on their playerbase ! It would have been different, nevertheless still stupid, if CCP gave at least enough time for all 0.0-dwellers to write off their stuff before it gets worthless crap ! As I see, many smaller alliances already have begun to pack their stuff and if this 0.0-nerf gets through, there will be a mass exodus out of 0.0. That few existing -1.0 systems will permanently have some enemy afk cloak rapiers in them. And those systems will all be claimed by the regional masters, leaving the crap to all others. Those few entities with their supercapital fleets will still have their supercapital fleets and control as well as share 0.0 amongst them. All the small dwellers will be out of business as they have no economical chance to step up into the prime league of those supercapital owners/reimbursers.
Dana Bomfim	Posted - 2011.04.05 05:22:00 - [203] It is sad that people complain too much about things they bring to themselves. I am sure many people complaining about lag have tons of "daemons" and background processes running while playing EVE, and many isnt even aware of that or what daemons and bg processes are. I am sure a few even use media players, laggy voice 3rd party programs (yes, some of the most famous and free cause lag, and that is why they are free). I practice combat with my corp and other friends using 2 or even 3 EVE instances in the same PC with no lag in none of them, and I dont have the ultimate PC with ultimate NET. Plus, you can spend some quality time checking out what the main menu (the one from ESC) can offer in performance enhancements if you still cant just kill some daemons or refrain to use other net/CPU consuming softwares while playing EVE. About the "I pay I want", I hate that as much as I hate when my students (I am a teacher) try to start that "I pay you work for me". You dont like the game, dont play it. I am sure that if all players with that mind leaving, the ammount wont even scratch CCP earnings in EVE. About the changes, I think some I like, some I dont, some I dont care, but mostly I see that people complain too much about personal desires rather than look at the big picture. No one ever makes everyone happy, and aim to the majority seems to be wiser than aim to all, and reach none.
Lost'In'Space	Posted - 2011.04.05 05:30:00 - [204] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee To clarify, since a couple of people were asking. With this patch everyone will get a chance to re-sculpt their character. When you log in and select your character you will be asked if you want to enter character creator, and there you will be able to re-sculpt. You can also skip this step, for the time being or you can select permanently to not be asked again. Whatever you do, you will after this patch always have access to the re-customization service in stations, where you can change your clothes, hair and makeup, you can get piercings, tattoos, and even get scarified. But re-sculpt can not be done in the re-customization after that one chance?
Schmii Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.05 05:37:00 - [205] Edited by: Schmii on 05/04/2011 05:38:29 While I agree that the 0.0 nerf bat has come down a bit hard (Been researching how to finally get in to 0.0 and things have just become very complicated) and that all your sites now suck big salty ones, can be really sucky. CCP could have at least said, hey we want to change this, this is where high end stuff will be, hey you are currently in a spot where you would not get any of the nice stuff you have come to rely on, we suggest you start looking here and here where we are planning on implementing the high end stuff. Or maybe they can make it so that everyone starts with at least the same level of sites. Like, hey you are all now in a -0.3. Go and conquer more space at your leasure. But alas, they are giving the short stick to some and others won't have to move even. But still, it would be nice if everyone could stop complaining. CCP may have had better options to choose from, they chose the wrong way to our eyes. Maybe there is even valid reason for it in relation to keeping the game going! Ever thought that they need to keep their business model running? It has to change and evolve with time or else it is going to die and instead of you rage quiting you wil be FORCE QUITED when the game dies. It needs to keep up with the standards such as the likes of Rift and (yes I am going to say it) WoW. So please stop whining about everything. You guys moan about LAG, CCP works on lag, you complain about the character creator, they make some changes to it and you complain about how they are wasting time on the character creator instead of lag. Give them a break and if they fix something that you complained about in the last patch (or at least if they start working on it), don't find something new to complain about, rather let them finish their jobs. CCP does listen to the players and every time they do, we, the players, simply find something new to complain about. So stop playing or stop complaining. Go do a better job yourself if you can. CCP keep up the good work, but please do reconsider the 0.0 changes a bit harder and how it effects the current player base. They are just as important as new players and new business
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 07:01:00 - [206] Everyone who is doing the "ragequit" are either teens that will mature in time or grown up who should have matured and are still living with their parents. Either way, you need grow up. Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
VaL Iscariot b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.05 07:08:00 - [207] Originally by: CCP Fallout blah blah blah ignore blah YEAH! now i get to go back to high sec and mission run.. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 07:29:00 - [208] Originally by: VaL Iscariot Originally by: CCP Fallout blah blah blah ignore blah YEAH! now i get to go back to high sec and mission run.. Blah blah blah ignore blah. "My overwhelming isk amounts are getting lower and I need to make an effort!" How about going "out there" and taking those better places. Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
VaL Iscariot b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.05 07:33:00 - [209] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Originally by: VaL Iscariot Originally by: CCP Fallout blah blah blah ignore blah YEAH! now i get to go back to high sec and mission run.. Blah blah blah ignore blah. "My overwhelming isk amounts are getting lower and I need to make an effort!" How about going "out there" and taking those better places. so you macro mine amirite? Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
Flibertygibbet	Posted - 2011.04.05 07:48:00 - [210] Im assuming then at the very least CCP will buy back the thousands of ihubs and upgrades that have yet to be paid for?

Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 08:23:00 - [211] Edited by: Dr Sheepbringer on 05/04/2011 08:23:42 Originally by: VaL Iscariot so you macro mine amirite? Nope. I don't even mine. The changes are made that new alliances and corps can find a setting in null without having to lick. At the moment it's basically impossible. You really can't fund a sov without having some sov before that. Thus basically means merging into already rooted alliances, but it's not that often that they event want new corps. Basically meaning an alliance can completely shut down newcomers and deny them the resources. Yes, big alliances fight each others and so on, but a small corp/alliance has no footing in entering and keeping their own. You get the cap** if you do. Yes, there are NPC null, but that's not really what it's all about. What CCP wants is "crappy null" areas where the big alliances have no interest in, but small alliances/corps would still find them somewhat lucrative. I'm all for that. You either have to make small alliances effective even vs. big alliances and well in truth...that could never work. Bigger alliance should ALWAYS mean more power. It's just about where they concentrate it. Having areas that have no interest to them would mean "void" areas. They did do that with WH's , but it's not really the same thing. Eve evolves, get over it. They nerf something today, something else in a year. Just because you are the "toph dog" (alliance, corp, whatever) NOW doesn't mean you should be tomorrow. I do understand the effect on macros and they me off, but I also understand the impact they would have on the economy if they were hammered down quickly. CCP HAS to create something to avoid the the economical crash. Thus, what they are doing now with the changes. When everything becomes more vidid and lively they can hammer down macros and it will only cause more turbulence in the economy, but it won't shut it down. Think about macros as product piracy in the real world. If you would remove it 100% then half of China would be out of work. Same thing would happen in eve. Thus with alliances denying sov for the "workers" it would all crash down. One can't just go in guns blazing and shooting the bad guy who is holding the bomb. Yay,you killed him and everyone else. See the point? Originally by:** CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Xir0	Posted - 2011.04.05 08:29:00 - [212] It would be nice if instead of nerfing existing changes and items, more new features were "invented" or "Discovered", this would reduce and sometimes increase the value of existing items and assets in the same way it happens in real life. One post i would love to see in eve could go something like this: ôScientists in Amarr space working closely with Capsuleers are pleased to announce an expected date for the first test of the cataclysm drive, a key component in the newly developed remote stargate deployment system. Whilst the full effects of the drive are as yet unknown, it is certain that as the drive utilises 25% of the energy from a sun to propel a deployment probe into deep space, its use will be restricted to once in a system. The probe can only be loosely aimed, so once fired will reach a distance of approximately 200light years and seek out the nearest star. On reaching orbit of a star the probe will begin a 4 week cycle building a new long range stargate linked to the base in the originating system. The long range stargates, powered by the star they orbit, will be permanent but will have lower capacity than existing ones, not allowing freighters and other ships above a certain mass. In light of this scientists are working on developing new nano carriers û battleship sized vessels capable of carrying 7 fighter s and a few frigates/destroyers. This development is expected to allow for exploration into the unknown depths of space, albeit at a hefty price, the new stargates could lead to untold riches in new systems, create a permanent link to a wormhole system or even one day find inhabited systems and a way back to Earth.ö This would allow players to pick a system to explore from and would cost a ludicrous amount to buy restricting its use. And of course then making the launch system an extremely valuable asset that other alliances will want to take.
nano bobcat	Posted - 2011.04.05 08:32:00 - [213] Originally by: John Burdell It wont make smaller alliances able to get off the ground in 0.0- because they wont be able to make any isk, and any of the 'decent' systems will be quickly controlled by either our macro friends from the motherland, or the NC. you mean all those "small alliances" under NCs skirt, blowing the fcking NC blob even bigger? They should die in fire!

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.05 08:42:00 - [214] Originally by: Lost'In'Space Originally by: CCP Bella Bee To clarify, since a couple of people were asking. With this patch everyone will get a chance to re-sculpt their character. When you log in and select your character you will be asked if you want to enter character creator, and there you will be able to re-sculpt. You can also skip this step, for the time being or you can select permanently to not be asked again. Whatever you do, you will after this patch always have access to the re-customization service in stations, where you can change your clothes, hair and makeup, you can get piercings, tattoos, and even get scarified. But re-sculpt can not be done in the re-customization after that one chance? You get one re-sculpt, but you don't have to use it immediately. You can choose to not enter the character creator (or enter, play around with sculpting and customizing and then cancel your changes), and you will be given the option again next time you log in and select your character.

Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 08:57:00 - [215] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee You get one re-sculpt, but you don't have to use it immediately. You can choose to not enter the character creator (or enter, play around with sculpting and customizing and then cancel your changes), and you will be given the option again next time you log in and select your character. Just to clarify: a) you get the re-sculpt you body once (aka, change your ugly face and make yourself buff) b) you can change your clothes, get a haircut, piercings and pass out in the station tattoo parlor as many times as you want (and get a few scars from the barfight), but you can't change your "body" in the re-customization services? Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:06:00 - [216] so all my shortcuts will stop working now? excellent idea CCP!
Timebandit II	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:07:00 - [217] Edited by: Timebandit II on 05/04/2011 09:07:53 0.0 needs to remain a place worth living in and defending, this patch to reduce the amount of Sanctums and Havens will have an impact on 0.0 dwellers as its already hard enough to earn in the poorer sec status systems. 0.0 systems where sanctums and Havens are detectable will be perma camped by black ops reds. And whilst we are on the subject of perma camping cloaky reds why dont you consider creating a probe that can scan down cloaked ships after they have been perma cloaked for over an hour or so or set a cloaking timer on the cloaking device itself ? Maybe they emit some kind of emission that can be scanned after a long time cloaked sat doing bugger all ?. Just a thought Bandit
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:10:00 - [218] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee You get one re-sculpt, but you don't have to use it immediately. You can choose to not enter the character creator (or enter, play around with sculpting and customizing and then cancel your changes), and you will be given the option again next time you log in and select your character. what about the portrait swap service? is it going back? I made a portrait as the replacement, intending to use the service, but then realized the service was disabled. I then tried to re-sculpt my original portrait (with GM help) but I could not repeat the portrait I made for swapping, there is something not right whatever I try. So I still kept that swap portrait intending to use it when the service will be re-enabled ... is it coming?

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:15:00 - [219] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Originally by: CCP Bella Bee You get one re-sculpt, but you don't have to use it immediately. You can choose to not enter the character creator (or enter, play around with sculpting and customizing and then cancel your changes), and you will be given the option again next time you log in and select your character. Just to clarify: a) you get the re-sculpt you body once (aka, change your ugly face and make yourself buff) b) you can change your clothes, get a haircut, piercings and pass out in the station tattoo parlor as many times as you want (and get a few scars from the barfight), but you can't change your "body" in the re-customization services? Spot on

nano bobcat	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:18:00 - [220] Edited by: nano bobcat on 05/04/2011 09:18:08 Originally by: Timebandit II 0.0 needs to remain a place worth living in and defending, this patch to reduce the amount of Sanctums and Havens will have an impact on 0.0 dwellers as its already hard enough to earn in the poorer sec status systems. 0.0 systems where sanctums and Havens are detectable will be perma camped by black ops reds. there are already enough low truesec systems, just not for all the "small" fcking pets, they should go somewhere else or go kicking out their overlords if they want valuable space. Its a good patch.


CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:24:00 - [221] Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe what about the portrait swap service? is it going back? I made a portrait as the replacement, intending to use the service, but then realized the service was disabled. I then tried to re-sculpt my original portrait (with GM help) but I could not repeat the portrait I made for swapping, there is something not right whatever I try. So I still kept that swap portrait intending to use it when the service will be re-enabled ... is it coming? I'm afraid not, the portraits are all rendered by the server and are based on your character's data on sculpting, position, lighting, etc. But you will have more options now to decorate your face, and the overall performance of the character creator has been improved so it should be smoother to work with, and I hope you will be able to create a portrait you like after tomorrow's deployment.

VaL Iscariot b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:37:00 - [222] Edited by: VaL Iscariot on 05/04/2011 09:42:58 Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Edited by: Dr Sheepbringer on 05/04/2011 08:23:42 Originally by: VaL Iscariot so you macro mine amirite? Nope. I don't even mine. The changes are made that new alliances and corps can find a setting in null without having to lick. At the moment it's basically impossible. You really can't fund a sov without having some sov before that. Thus basically means merging into already rooted alliances, but it's not that often that they event want new corps. Basically meaning an alliance can completely shut down newcomers and deny them the resources. Yes, big alliances fight each others and so on, but a small corp/alliance has no footing in entering and keeping their own. You get the cap** if you do. Yes, there are NPC null, but that's not really what it's all about. What CCP wants is "crappy null" areas where the big alliances have no interest in, but small alliances/corps would still find them somewhat lucrative. I'm all for that. You either have to make small alliances effective even vs. big alliances and well in truth...that could never work. Bigger alliance should ALWAYS mean more power. It's just about where they concentrate it. Having areas that have no interest to them would mean "void" areas. They did do that with WH's , but it's not really the same thing. Eve evolves, get over it. They nerf something today, something else in a year. Just because you are the "toph dog" (alliance, corp, whatever) NOW doesn't mean you should be tomorrow. I do understand the effect on macros and they me off, but I also understand the impact they would have on the economy if they were hammered down quickly. CCP HAS to create something to avoid the the economical crash. Thus, what they are doing now with the changes. When everything becomes more vidid and lively they can hammer down macros and it will only cause more turbulence in the economy, but it won't shut it down. Think about macros as product piracy in the real world. If you would remove it 100% then half of China would be out of work. Same thing would happen in eve. Thus with alliances denying sov for the "workers" it would all crash down. One can't just go in guns blazing and shooting the bad guy who is holding the bomb. Yay,you killed him and everyone else. See the point? I didn't read any of this but i'm sure its full of faint jabs about how i'll have to learn and grow in some manner from a cearbear with a total of two kills. You be pro at this game dood. Null sec is a wasteland even with the sanctums and havens as it sits. You've apparently never been to null sec, or you would know this. I make more money running hacking sites in low sec then i do wasting my time pvping over the 'true sec' value of a system. You of course don't know, because you didn't look before you spoke, that the vast majority of null sec IS WORTHLESS with this patch. (i.e. below -.30 truesec) Hubs spawn in every low sec system in empire. Not anymore mind you. nothing but a high sec insta scan will show up in low sec now. Way to bring the hammer down on everyone but the bears ccp. I like the character thing though CCP. p.s. if you respond to this sheepwhatever, i won't read it P.S.S. LOL at everyone crying about the NC** Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
Zinya Inkura	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:42:00 - [223] Originally by: Abinadi9 Because re-sculpting my character was my top priority. I defiantly think that ignoring the thousands of complaints that have been voiced on the forum against the 0.0 nerf should completely warrant CCP ignoring them and addressing people's concerns for redoing their portrait... If you are in serious about changes to the game why not consult the CSM first? If it is really a good idea, you'd at least seek multiple group's input rather than just making an arbitrary change. In an API verified poll, allowing each account to only vote once, 93% of those accounts are AGAINST the 0.0 nerf. 93%... not 53... not 73... 93%... CLEARLY it is a great idea.... WAKE UP CCP Click this link if you think I'm full of crap about the 93% percent too... http://www.evethink.com/?viewvote=true If you disagree... vote for the changes Indeed it is 94%... out of a total of 223 votes. Curently there are 23357 pilots in tranquility, so yes, out of 1% of the current logged in popultaion, 94% of them are against the 0.0 nerf.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 09:53:00 - [224] Originally by: VaL Iscariot the vast majority of null sec IS WORTHLESS with this patch. (i.e. below -.30 truesec) Hubs spawn in every low sec system in empire. Not anymore mind you. nothing but a high sec insta scan will show up in low sec now. Way to bring the hammer down on everyone but the bears ccp. Majority of null is "worthless" for majority of small groups at the moment. Why, because they can't get there without getting **d by caps (mostly because the major alliances have nothing better to do). The changes are making it possible to be in null as a small group. Originally by:** VaL Iscariot p.s. if you respond to this sheepwhatever, i won't read it Good. You could stop posting as well. Ps. Do you make a habit on checking your opponents stats from the forums. I've heard people use alts. Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
VaL Iscariot b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.05 10:07:00 - [225] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Originally by: VaL Iscariot the vast majority of null sec IS WORTHLESS with this patch. (i.e. below -.30 truesec) Hubs spawn in every low sec system in empire. Not anymore mind you. nothing but a high sec insta scan will show up in low sec now. Way to bring the hammer down on everyone but the bears ccp. Majority of null is "worthless" for majority of small groups at the moment. Why, because they can't get there without getting **d by caps (mostly because the major alliances have nothing better to do). The changes are making it possible to be in null as a small group. Originally by:** VaL Iscariot p.s. if you respond to this sheepwhatever, i won't read it Good. You could stop posting as well. Ps. Do you make a habit on checking your opponents stats from the forums. I've heard people use alts. you don't get that none on the major alliance will ever let a small alliance sit idle in the abandoned stretches of say i dunno, pure blind/provi/mostly anywhere in null. and the Space will be even more worthless to those smaller groups. Oh boy, they can maybe mine arkanor until CCP nerfs that too. why don't we just go back to taking sov with towers and the whole mucked up constellation sov system? OH BOY BELT RATING! WHOO! to bad the bounty on rats is relative to the true sec of the system... I've heard people use alts too. people to scared to come out in the open about who they really are. you're ignorant, and a coward to boot. neat. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
nano bobcat	Posted - 2011.04.05 10:17:00 - [226] Edited by: nano bobcat on 05/04/2011 10:18:04 Originally by: VaL Iscariot why don't we just go back to taking sov with towers and the whole mucked up constellation sov system? I would welcome the old sov back. Multiple timers and TZ wars suck balls.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 10:20:00 - [227] Edited by: Dr Sheepbringer on 05/04/2011 10:21:27 Originally by: VaL Iscariot you don't get that none on the major alliance will ever let a small alliance sit idle in the abandoned stretches of say i dunno, pure blind/provi/mostly anywhere in null. and the Space will be even more worthless to those smaller groups. Oh boy, they can maybe mine arkanor until CCP nerfs that too. why don't we just go back to taking sov with towers and the whole mucked up constellation sov system? OH BOY BELT RATING! WHOO! to bad the bounty on rats is relative to the true sec of the system... I've heard people use alts too. people to scared to come out in the open about who they really are. you're ignorant, and a coward to boot. neat. At least I'm not an idiot. You do understand than when certain areas comes lucrative the pressure will be there. The big alliances will be fighting over those and versus each others. Leaving the idle abandoned stretches for the drunken roams. The whole key CCP is driving is that the fights will be more localized. You really think the alliances will rather go on a bashing rampage over idle worthless territories when the lucrative areas are under attack? The only question is that will there be enough fighting over the lucrative areas to leave the idle areas under the radar. As you said...the majority of null will become worthless to them. Ps. Hey you read my post! So much for your last post then... (oh sorry, the second last post). Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Urethra Infection	Posted - 2011.04.05 10:30:00 - [228] Dear CCP I am no means a rich 0.0 dweller. I find pve content boring and repetitive, and I actually pay, not plex for my account when I dont have the isk (often the case). With this anom nerf we will actually be out of pocket for spending billions of our corp members isk on now worthless system upgrades. Before you all start screaming and laughing, my corp recruits out of game and has a lot of new players, where we offer things like guides, frigate roams and skillbook packs. This not only hurts us dwellers who have lived out here for a long time, but also discourages those new players who actually have friends (i.e shurk, and test in general). This shortsighted nerf will not only backfire but will probably not cause the instability you greatly desire. Did CCP greywolfRPERFURRY get his job via fellatio, because I wouldn't mind turning my hand to sucking some sausage if it would belay this patch and which would ultimately cause test alliance to seek other means to let our dissatisfaction known? There is a lot of decent fixes with this patch but the reasoning behind the nerf is not only stupid, it is a gigantic waste of time for all those involved, including yourselves to believe this patch will change things for smaller alliances and whatnot. There are already a few things they can do, like hangout in NPC 0.0, wormholes or running missions in empire, all of which now, will generate more isk than anomalies. Cool way of cutting everyone new to 0.0 in established alliances balls off guys.
Khuri Minmatar Old Galactic Earth Regiment Dragoon Federation	Posted - 2011.04.05 10:34:00 - [229] This fixes some of the small things that's been annoying me, like not being able to strip fittings from a ship you aren't piloting, and repackaging lots of items, with out damaged items causing it all to fail. About the ano nerf, all the hate about it does seem a little extreme. Not sure I care though. I lived in 0.0 before the sovereignty system changed, and I was able to fund my pvp'ing just fine. Though I do live in empire for the time being, I'm gonna move back out to 0.0 regardless of what they do to the anomalies, but maybe I don't feel the hate because I'm not going to miss them, because I never knew them in the first place. Forgive me, i was young and stupid I still am.
VaL Iscariot b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.05 10:51:00 - [230] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Edited by: Dr Sheepbringer on 05/04/2011 10:21:27 Originally by: VaL Iscariot you don't get that none on the major alliance will ever let a small alliance sit idle in the abandoned stretches of say i dunno, pure blind/provi/mostly anywhere in null. and the Space will be even more worthless to those smaller groups. Oh boy, they can maybe mine arkanor until CCP nerfs that too. why don't we just go back to taking sov with towers and the whole mucked up constellation sov system? OH BOY BELT RATING! WHOO! to bad the bounty on rats is relative to the true sec of the system... I've heard people use alts too. people to scared to come out in the open about who they really are. you're ignorant, and a coward to boot. neat. At least I'm not an idiot. You do understand than when certain areas comes lucrative the pressure will be there. The big alliances will be fighting over those and versus each others. Leaving the idle abandoned stretches for the drunken roams. The whole key CCP is driving is that the fights will be more localized. You really think the alliances will rather go on a bashing rampage over idle worthless territories when the lucrative areas are under attack? Ps. Hey you read my post! So much for your last post then... (oh sorry, the second last post). ok so i read it. Anyway, you have no clue as to how people think. Even if the major blocks, north and south, don't occupy a space they will still claim dominion over those areas. Yes, they will use them as roaming areas. Lets run down the check list to things you continue to be ignorant of: Will they give up the stationed systems? No. Will the blocks let anyone who just wanders in take sov? No. Will the those true sec systems be perma camped and bubbled? Yes. Do you know what your talking about? No. Those quote lucrative areas can be camped but good luck getting through all the goons as their region is again the best in the game. I liked the old sov system too but tower bashing is boring and afk defense roolz. Will you stop hiding behind your alts? No. PEOPLE DON'T FIGHT OVER SANCTUMS AND NEVER HAVE! PEOPLE FIGHT OVER THE MOONS, THATS IT! and it won't become worthless to the power blocks, it'll just be flat worthless to everyone. a small alliance is better off living in low sec and not spending billions of isk on pvp ships, broken sov mechanics and towers that will just die in a month. brains, you don't have them. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist

Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 10:53:00 - [231] Was this the end of your emorage? I hope. Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Artenac	Posted - 2011.04.05 10:58:00 - [232] CCP Keeping the game interesting!
VaL Iscariot b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.05 11:07:00 - [233] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Was this the end of your emorage? I hope. Aren't you clever? Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.04.05 11:11:00 - [234] Originally by: VaL Iscariot Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Was this the end of your emorage? I hope. Aren't you clever? Can you two please take this somewhere else, thank you.

VaL Iscariot b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.05 11:15:00 - [235] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: VaL Iscariot Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Was this the end of your emorage? I hope. Aren't you clever? Can you two please take this somewhere else, thank you. sure can. i'm looking for a locater agent right after downtime. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.05 11:17:00 - [236] Once again to my free afternoon, dislike Hope it all goes smooth.
WNxWolfy	Posted - 2011.04.05 11:23:00 - [237] So we're finally getting lots of things that should've been in years ago, but you're nerfing anomalies. Why. You implement new "features" and list consequences like they have any real relation. What you're saying will not happen, please talk to the CSM. Please respond to player criticism, because we actually play the game and know what we're doing.
The Offerer	Posted - 2011.04.05 11:33:00 - [238] Originally by: VaL Iscariot sure can. i'm looking for a locater agent right after downtime. Originally by: VaL Iscariot /edit PS thanks for ignoring what we were talking about
Kampfpilot2k7	Posted - 2011.04.05 11:40:00 - [239] That wat ccp do is bringing new ideas. But some ideas.. don`t talk about it. Ratting is no more useful in Systems with sec.stat. 0.3 to 0.1. Hm what can we do.... ah Mining, but hmmmmm Mining is Fun? Whats about an Fleet Drag and Drop System, whats about "Walking on Station"???? Or an Drag and Drop System on Planetary interaction? No more Klickorgies. The patch is ideasless. So far.
Chakarr Minmatar Anarchistic Carebears Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.04.05 12:11:00 - [240] Quote: DED complexes... òare a particular subset of exploration content that has existed in EVE for a number of years; òare also used as content by the Dominion sovereignty system; òare combat-centered sites that pit players against one of the five core pirate factions; òhave 10 levels of difficulty; òcontain final boss NPCs that have a chance of dropping awesome pirate-faction modules; and òare designed for groups, but are not as severe or directed as Incursion content. Soooooo...nice and all - but what about the Drone regions...? We have one crappy 10/10 & bugged anoms, you are taking away the Hordes & Patrols from lower-sec systems with the promise that this is balanced by adding DED plexs...only we have no new DED plexes, no bosses - Sentient Drone that (never spawns for me anyway with my worst luck ever) drops worthless crap and 'may' yield decent t2 salvage is meh - no faction loot, no modules. Horde/Patrol respawn time is borked now, if they even respawn at all. We have no decent radar or mag sites either, so thanks for this CCP - really looking forwards to sharing my bugged hordes with even more people in exchange for NO extra content. We aren't all russian bots you know

Sascha Valieri	Posted - 2011.04.05 12:22:00 - [241] Originally by: WNxWolfy So we're finally getting lots of things that should've been in years ago, but you're nerfing anomalies. Why. .... Because they needed a ISK-sink. The best way to create a ISK-sink is where the most people are, so everyone gets his fair share of sink and not one group has that burdon alone. So they nerf 0.0 since 80% are in Highsec... Oh, wait...
Iaphar Shaddai	Posted - 2011.04.05 12:23:00 - [242] Originally by: PLEX Purchaser Meh.. Played a lot of other MMO's, Final Fantasy XI , FF XIV , Wow , and a fair few others.. I paid a hefty amount for other mmo's upwards to 80$ ~ 100$ USD for some.. Of the majority of MMOs I played, we got new major content patches about once every 2 years and had to pay for it, another 45$ for each expansion.. same with most Main stream MMO's .. Content comes slow and they almost always charge more money for it right along with having to continue paying your subscriptions.. minor bug fixes would come from time to time and other then that you don't get much else other then your next bill... Since starting Eve online.. I have enjoy numerous content updates and bug fixes, and I have not paid nothing more then my subs, "which is surprising." The issue here is that whilst you do not pay a standalone expansion charge for new content you do infact pay a higher subscription charge. Subs in games like Wow are typically about ú7.99 p/m whereas an eve online sub works out at about ú13.67p/m when paid directly on card through account management. this means that per month i am paying about ú5.68 per month extra which over the course of a year is a ú68 increase on the price of WOW which forgive me if im wrong is enough to pay for the expansion pack on preorder... twice. Dont get me wrong i love playing eve, i think that yes sometimes the devs introduce messed up changes ignoring the playerbase (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS5IHVKRzwc epic lolz) but please dont try to make out that ccp is an epic company for not charging you to expand on features. Most of the time their expansions are fixes or content that needs more fixing giving them an excuse for another future expansion than just leaving it alone, AND you are forced to pay a lot more for it cause the cost is hidden. The only saving grace is that if your a new player you dont have to pay for previous expansions like you do in wow or lotro or any number of other subscription & expansion based MMO's As for the Anom nerf the issue is not going to achive the stated aims for it of making people fight over space, just as the "rebalancing" of moon goo did not. Moon Goo reblance > lets make people want less space by adding More high val moons to a region that means more alliances can share an area of space cause there is more moon goo to go around. Problem is that eve is a generally capitalist society so instead of sharing the wealth the fat cats get fatter meaning that there was now more reason to hold an entire region than before (Pre change 1 or 2 R64 moons in region meant 1 or 2 areas to truly hold) An so the Sov Changes came in> Lets make it possible to upgrade your systems so that they can sustain more people in one place so you dont need to hold a whole region. Fantastic idea but one small problem, people who already hold an entire region have the resources to do so, people trying to break into 0.0 from empire or low sec dont, thats like the libyans trying to say "Hey the USA has lots of tasty resources that we would kill for, lets go try to take it off them" its not gonna work, not even on so much acid your brains turning to mush would that seem like a plausable idea, the only way to achive the goal is to increase the ammount of nulsec for the taking and ensure that there is some disconnection between regions to stop the NIMBY (not in my back yard) affect we have currently, even if the space is crap peeps will hold it to make sure reds dont have staging areas next door to them for existing reds, who cares about the 200 man alliance made up of 30 mans corps when ur the NC etc. Increase the ammount of low level 0.0 and give some buffer zones and leave the rest as is, i guarentee you most empire bunnies dont want to take a crack cause its like a 13 year old nerd trying to ask out Angelena Jolie, they aint gonna cause they know theyll get knocked back so why try. Iaphar Shaddai
SixToOne	Posted - 2011.04.05 12:39:00 - [243] Edited by: SixToOne on 05/04/2011 12:40:28 Jesus.I never knew the 0.0 dwellers wer such carebears.All this whine about nerfing anoms and moon goo...you guys are worse than mission runners. Deal with it 0.0bears. HAHAHAHAA. P.S. Im giving out crackers. P.S.S you want isk? Start roaming the wh's you guys are so afraid of because they dont have local updates...EEEEKK!
Mad Yojik	Posted - 2011.04.05 12:56:00 - [244] Well, that patch is good for me, a number of long-waited UI fixes, some eye candy... As for so-called 0.0 nerf - I dont care, 0.0 is off-limits for non-alliance (and their brown-nosers) people anyway. Though its amusing and warms my heart seeing those fat "we cap-fcsk you" alliance members cry, all those alliances may just die and I'll be even happier
bluberdumpf	Posted - 2011.04.05 13:05:00 - [245] nobody has patience nobody has understanding and tbqfh CCP if this patch goes in ** off just ** off
gallaoth	Posted - 2011.04.05 13:08:00 - [246] Edited by: gallaoth on 05/04/2011 13:09:27 Good idea filling the DED sites (1/10 to 10/10) considering you've got gaps to fill.. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Bad idea Nerfing the systems and there Anoms is a bad idea period, people have put ISK into upgrading there systems and now thats for nothing in most 00 systems. Cheers CCP nerfing the little guy in New Eden (EVE Online). gallaoth
Mad Yojik	Posted - 2011.04.05 13:12:00 - [247] Originally by: SixToOne Edited by: SixToOne on 05/04/2011 12:40:28 Jesus.I never knew the 0.0 dwellers wer such carebears.All this whine about nerfing anoms and moon goo...you guys are worse than mission runners. Deal with it 0.0bears. HAHAHAHAA. P.S. Im giving out crackers. P.S.S you want isk? Start roaming the wh's you guys are so afraid of because they dont have local updates...EEEEKK! The bots cant safely farm WHs. But they can farm sanctums/havens, i guess... and log off the moment they "see" non-blue in local
Iaphar Shaddai	Posted - 2011.04.05 13:31:00 - [248] Originally by: SixToOne Edited by: SixToOne on 05/04/2011 12:40:28 Jesus.I never knew the 0.0 dwellers wer such carebears.All this whine about nerfing anoms and moon goo...you guys are worse than mission runners. No the purpose of my comments was not to whine about it but to highlight the fact that the changes did not achive their stated goals, its like stating that electric cars will clean up the atmosphere but then having to build another 30 coal burning power stations to feed the extra electric consumption for people charging their cars at night. Originally by: Mad Yojik The bots cant safely farm WHs. But they can farm sanctums/havens, i guess... and log off the moment they "see" non-blue in local Bots can farm anywhere better than peeps, its the old thing about remove local in 0.0, it would not achive the aim you state, bots could quite happily use d scan to ensure nobody in system with them and escape if needed, it would be the human player that would suffer cause they would forget to d scan every 20 seconds, and dont even go with the "well you could kick anyone that dscaneed at a regular interval" as studies have shown that humans as much as machines fall into a rhythm when doing repetative tasks and therefore would usually appear more "scripted" than the bots. If you actually read the substance of the flames directed at CCP you would realise that this is not from the bots or farmers but from the little guy who wants to get out into nullsec and now sees little reward in doing so, especially when you compare it to the massive risks, and dont say "well go join the NC or other big powerbloc" because most of them wont look at say a small 10 man corp who wants to have a try at nullsec, they want 80+ players to even consider a membership to their alliance and that when they are recruiting. And if its not the little guy then its the people who have just spent BILLIONS of isk on upgrading their systems, days on end of ratting in s**t anoms to bring up the index value to install an upgrade that they then have to run through space using a freightor and all the risks associated with that, or have gone that step further and actually deployed an outpost. What CCP need to do if they want to change the anoms is give them a nudge like peeps suggested about linking the bounties to the trusec rather than hitting them with a demo ball and removing them completley.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 13:57:00 - [249] Well bots need local because d-scan doesn't show cov ops cloakers. If someone nails a bot which thinks it's "going forward happily and merrily" then you can farm it with bombers (a pack) for example. Longshot, but it would still mean a "endless" supply of bot-ships! Could be a rather lucrative business. As long as the bots do them in semi-pimped tengus. No idea how smart the bots are, but would they come back to the same point where they just blew up? Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Hakkar'al Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.05 14:27:00 - [250] Originally by: Skaarl Originally by: CCP Fallout Originally by: XFluke Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. This would be a good opportunity to point out the myriad blogs we recently published on this very issue. The War on Lag is something we take very seriously, and we are constantly in the trenches fighting it. Suite of Upgrades to the TQ database - Yokai details a ton of upgrades we've made to Tranquility recently Flow Control is a new thing we've added, and Mort's blog gives the juicy details Missiles still hate Veritas' hamsters, but he's winning that war This page also details some of the things we've introduced with EVE Online: Incursion. i think he is refering to the factthat your screwing large swathes of 0.0 while making botting more attractive, and rewarding the largest collection of botters in the game. oh and btw, lag wont be fixed until fighterbombers/supercarriers are fixed. as soon as they drop their 3000 drakes on the field the system is screwed. You mean people think that ratting is fun Also, yes - I hate the nullnerf - take from the regular non-bot players the isk and sell more GTC and/or PLEX ... to no ingame improvement ... Hello ... Mittens ... get to work ... Also, you can never stop the whiners ...

Rrama Ratamnim	Posted - 2011.04.05 14:32:00 - [251] Its really sad, soooo many good things, and 1 fcking change that has most of us *ed off... seriously needs to be changed before deployment i don't think that we shouldnt have difference in plex's between lowend nullsec and highend... But completely stripping a level 5 upgraded **ty nullsec system of all havens and sanctums is INSANE! Who the hell will ever upgrade a system above -0.5 since they technically will be worth nothing even after grinding to level 5.... If you want to make a change that makes it better, make the minimum for a -0.1 system 1 haven and maybe 1 sanctum, then from there go up with your levels to a 6x6 haven sanctum at -1.0 for the king of systems... also increase the decay rate of the military index, that way you can't get it to 5 once and basically never have to worry about keeping it there.. the difficulty of keeping military at 5 should be exponentially harder than at 1-2-3-4.....
Ddolik	Posted - 2011.04.05 15:13:00 - [252] ofcourse, give us nerf for anoms, but make fucing scanner probes for fucing bad t3 24/7camp nubs *******s your carebear
Singion Hawk	Posted - 2011.04.05 15:17:00 - [253] Edited by: Singion Hawk on 05/04/2011 15:18:31 anyone remember sony doing this to swg looks like ccp about to make a similar mistake eve-emu anyone
Takenhoe	Posted - 2011.04.05 15:27:00 - [254] Hey CCP, aren't there enough Bugs you have to fix, isnt there enough for you to do to realize Walking on Station, arent there any Player Owned POS Fixes / Enhancements outstanding before changing this True Sec Anomaly thing. You will see, the Fightings for the Systems will not really happening, except the already ongoing Teritory Fights. Most of the 0.0 Settelers will completely leave 0.0 except the Hardcore Miners ^^. Corps will concentrate their members into the good True Sec Systems (Higher Node Player Loads - While the "bad" Systems will stay empty). I'm sure for many 0.0 players a Empire Existency is absolutely NO ALTERNATIVE so i gues the Active Player Numbers will decrease due to this heavy nerf of freedom. I always thought that the Game is for the Players, and not a hidden Marketing Study (^^ Lets have a look, what these stupid players are doing if we remove the anomalies harr harr). Better Think a little about what you are doing, and better increase the customer Support instead of that.
Anddeh McNab Cadre Assault Force	Posted - 2011.04.05 15:35:00 - [255] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee To clarify, since a couple of people were asking. With this patch everyone will get a chance to re-sculpt their character. When you log in and select your character you will be asked if you want to enter character creator, and there you will be able to re-sculpt. You can also skip this step, for the time being or you can select permanently to not be asked again. Whatever you do, you will after this patch always have access to the re-customization service in stations, where you can change your clothes, hair and makeup, you can get piercings, tattoos, and even get scarified. Will the character loaded into the creator be our current character or will it be a default like when we first got the new creators? I spent alot of sculpting my alt's big round... eyes.
Jack Gilligan Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.05 15:35:00 - [256] Originally by: Sascha Valieri Originally by: WNxWolfy So we're finally getting lots of things that should've been in years ago, but you're nerfing anomalies. Why. .... Because they needed a ISK-sink. The best way to create a ISK-sink is where the most people are, so everyone gets his fair share of sink and not one group has that burdon alone. So they nerf 0.0 since 80% are in Highsec... Oh, wait... This is CCP's way of punishing us for forcing them to go after the botters. Which will mean less of a market for PLEX items, which means less GTC sales. Which can't happen because they need the money to develop World of Twilight and DUST. So they are forcing the average grunt to support themselves in 0.0 with GTC purchases. This is exactly what is happening though CCP of course will never have the guts to own up to it. If it really were about inflation they'd be nerfing highsec missions which is where the majority of the ISK that goes into the game comes from.
Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.05 15:38:00 - [257] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: VaL Iscariot Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Was this the end of your emorage? I hope. Aren't you clever? Can you two please take this somewhere else, thank you. CCP Bella Bee, Where am I supposed to take my emorage about the new patch? Is CCP actually going to respond to any of the complaints by people that actually are going to be hurt the most by this patch? How does CCP justify taking a system that has been in place for 17 months of people playing by those rules (after sweeping changes no less), in the "sandbox", and then one day go "oh hey, I have a great idea, lets make people like Dem0n Hunters go from having 60 high level anoms in their space to 1! This will defiantly make the game more enjoyable by all! YEAH THIS WOULD BE AN AWESOME IDEA". How about we start addressing the fact that the CSM wasn't consulted and it was done during a CSM election cycle. Are you not allowed to comment on this? Was this the plan all along? I would suggest that you guys start caring about the emorage on the forums that is occuring. 100 pages saying "NO, for the love of god, don't ruin the game" might be something to worry about more than two people bickering. Stop ignoring the thousands of posts on the forum of people that are against this crap. Tell Gran Moff Tarkin, aka CCP Greyscale, "I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if [thousands] of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced." Then follow it up with this: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look [mentally handicapped], act [mentally handicapped], not [mentally handicapped]. Count toothpicks to your cards. Autistic, sure. Not [mentally handicapped]. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, yes. [mentally handicapped], maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off Nixon and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't [mentally handicapped]. Then there was Sean Penn in æI Am Sam.Æ He went full [mentally handicapped]. Left the Oscars empty-handed. You went full [mentally handicapped], man. Never go full [mentally handicapped]." -Kirk Lazarus. This is a fully [mentally handicapped] decision. If it's a good idea, then more than 6% of the people would be fore it. It'd be more like 45% of the people That is just not playing out. I've been spamming http://www.evethink.com to anyone who will go there and vote. It's an API verified vote, and while there are 235 accounts that have voted, 220 DO AGREE that this patch should not go through. I know that is a small sample but its still a sample of distinct accounts. Come back from the brink CCP, start responding to your customers. Don't let this be the SWG CU/NGE patch equivalent. 0.0 is about to become a waste land instead of something people actually fight over. NO new alliances will want to go to 0.0 for space that is worthless. Only alliances will leave 0.0... and honestly the PVE content is NOT WHY PEOPLE PLAY THIS GAME. I understand that ratting is PVE content, but this only supports my addiction for pew pew in 0.0. I don't want to have to clone jump and only be able to pew pew everY other 24 hours. Maybe, just maybe, if you want to make things more even, take some of the 86 moons in tenel, that brings in 450billion ISK per month, and spread that around the game. Or if you're going to do this patch, why not reshuffle the deck for truesec. We could make it so players can influence the sec standings instead of having an arbitrary system. Why not make it dynamic? You're only punishing people who play. The rich will get richer, the poor will just quit Eve. Start worrying about people who want to play your game instead of playing with their [avatar\|portrait\|character\|member\|etc] CCP: PLEASE WAKE UP. DON'T GO FULL [mentally handicapped]. Waiting for the ban hammer, Abinadi9 http://www.evethink.com
Sergeant Marcus Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2011.04.05 15:41:00 - [258] Good Starting Patch! To much ISK Farming ingame anyway.... Fine Fine Safe Farming with bots in this game has to be nerfed... Risk has to be Buffed... --> (Sleeper KI everywhere in 0.0 = "Stop of the Bots" and "more Fun in PvE") next should be: the nerf of Technetium or the Boost of Mercury _______________________________________________________________ also--> Jumpbridges were introduced in Times where 1 or 2 titans where avaible to an aliance... now with more then 500 Titans ingame... JB's should be downgraded (1EA per system) or banned (0) for this game... there are systems/regions "noone uses gates"! better for now is: if u have to move, log in a titan. or drive by JF's
Jack Gilligan Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.05 15:52:00 - [259] Originally by: Abinadi9 Where am I supposed to take my emorage about the new patch? Is CCP actually going to respond to any of the complaints by people that actually are going to be hurt the most by this patch? How does CCP justify taking a system that has been in place for 17 months of people playing by those rules (after sweeping changes no less), in the "sandbox", and then one day go "oh hey, I have a great idea, lets make people like Dem0n Hunters go from having 60 high level anoms in their space to 1! This will defiantly make the game more enjoyable by all! YEAH THIS WOULD BE AN AWESOME IDEA". You've answered your own question. You only slide crap like this in without discussion and without listening to comment when you are hell bent on it happening and don't want to listen. As for it happening in the CSM election cycle, dude, the CSM won't help, it's useless and nothing more than a "free trip to Iceland" that is awarded by vote instead of drawing. The most disturbing thing about all this is that CCP is apparently completely unwilling to even EXPLAIN their reasons for doing it or justifying it. This is NOT a small gameplay change. It is an EXTREME one. This isn't a tweak, it's an amputation. This is basically throwing out the ENTIRE point of the Dominion Sov system and completely running away from the stated purpose of allowing less space to support more people. Essentially, the Dominion sov system has become the OLD sov system, except that we pound on Hubs, TCU's and SBU's instead of towers. We're right back to where we were before, with only a handful of systems in each region actually being worth anything. What I want to know, and what I feel CCP OWES us is at least an explanation as to why? Why this change? Why now? Now the more arrogant amongst CCP's staff and management might say they don't owe us anything. I want to take this opportunity to remind them that neither do we. Not a damn one of us owes them that $15 each month per account, nor those GTC sales. If this change goes through the only thing we can do is hurt them where they can't ignore it. Their wallet. Let CANCELGEDDON 2011 begin! But again, it shouldn't have to degenerate to this point. That it has is completely the fault of CCP, and indicative that the community management team has utterly and completely failed to do their job. Community management includes a lot more work than sending in "moderators" to move, delete, and lock what they don't want to see or hear. It means engaging the community. The bigger the proposed change(s), the sooner and greater the need for engagement. At this point we are less than a day away from one of the biggest non-expansion related change to this game in the history of 0.0 and we haven't even had ONE PERSON deign to give us even one reason why they are doing this. Let me close with reminding each and every employee of CCP of one simple and irrefutable fact: You don't work for CCP. You don't work for Hellmar. You don't work for your manager. You work for US. You serve at our will and pleasure, for we are the people who are paying for it all. Someone needs to remind you of this every now and then.
Im Super Gay	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:11:00 - [260] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist and many other highly loathed features. Fixed

Republica Winder	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:12:00 - [261] Wow, the account cancellation page is sure moving slow... Must be getting lots of hits today. Everyone make sure you're giving them your reason.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:16:00 - [262] It will be a first when people actually vote for something that will make then loose money. Basically that's what people are talking about. Of course everybody will cry wolf and go all bonkers when they loose their iskmine! I hardly think CCP thought it would go down silently or easily. "Oh hi, the next patch will reduce your isk income from 5bil to 5mil. You want to vote yes for the patch?" OF COURSE EVERYBODY WILL VOTE NO! The ones who would vote yes are the ones currently living in highsec and pretty much starting out the game. They don't vote because they don't understand null nor have they ever been there. So all the votes are biased or nonvoters. So the vote wouldn't solve anything. I do admit this is a prime example of a CSM project... Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Kampfpilot2k7	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:16:00 - [263] I can`t reapeat it not enough. This Patch is idealess. But thank you for talking about it. grrrr. regarts
Sephiroth CloneVII	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:27:00 - [264] Like how they didn't tell allot of the bad ideas with players before hand until they already planed to put it in a patch. Can level 4's be nerfed? I think that would battle inflation being that many more people still live in empire then null sec. And furthermore might give a incentive to go to null sec instead of staying in empire. Is making the majority of null sec a worthless desert supposed to make the game better? Get new people into it, or whatever other idea would happen?
Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:35:00 - [265] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer OF COURSE EVERYBODY WILL VOTE NO! So if everyone votes not it is irrelevant? It's not that the isk mine will go down, it's that it will disappear for a lot of the lower end alliances. They played by the rules after the "fix" came out 17 months ago and now ... oh look at that... anything above -.26 will have NO HAVENS and NO SANCTUMS. This is the mine caving in. If you were going to put 1 haven in a 0.0 to -.2 system then fine... but NONE?! Like I said, not that I have love for Dem0n Hunters, but they're going from 60 to 1 high level anomaly. Do you know how much it costs to develop each one of those systems? Assuming that each one of their 15 systems are fully upgraded to pirate detection 5, that's 18.75B isk for pirate upgrades and IHUBs alone... Now that 18.75B isk is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.... OH BOY, hubs and yards! Any reimbursement plan for those alliances? NOPE. NONE. ZIP. NADA... Just a big ol' go [bleep] yourself. GREAT PLAN CCP... can we hear more about the re-sculpting of characters?
ShadowsMirror	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:44:00 - [266] The nerf makes perfect sense 1) Currently there is no benefit from being in a -0.9 system vs a -0.1. Those systems are the core of each alliance & thus their prized possessions. Why should the renters get the same benefits as the core? 2) 0.0 has always been purpose built to be competitive, both within alliances holding sov & those seeking to acquire it. Gone are the days of logging in, dual boxing a sanctum with no risk, tons of reward. You will now have to actually compete with fellow corp mates if you system will have any anomalies left. Those without any, its back to ratting / sites / empire level 4s etc. 3) Those thinking of quitting, please, it's been done before & you know your addicted. Lifestyle changes are a fact of life. Are you really going to throw away your character / time / money etc of a few sanctums? Get real
Im Super Gay	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:52:00 - [267] Edited by: Im Super Gay on 05/04/2011 16:52:43 Originally by: ShadowsMirror The nerf makes perfect sense 1) Currently there is no benefit from being in a -0.9 system vs a -0.1. Those systems are the core of each alliance & thus their prized possessions. Why should the renters get the same benefits as the core? Actually in that range you have the best natural supplies of ore, and best chance of an officer spawn (besides NPC 0.0) Quote: 2) 0.0 has always been purpose built to be competitive, both within alliances holding sov & those seeking to acquire it. Gone are the days of logging in, dual boxing a sanctum with no risk, tons of reward. You will now have to actually compete with fellow corp mates if you system will have any anomalies left. Those without any, its back to ratting / sites / empire level 4s etc. So what you're saying is that the alliance that created safe space risked nothing? Get real. Speaking of risk vs. reward, why would anyone bother settling in a system that gives you about the same benefits as lowsec, but you have to pay for it? Also there's been about 0 wars started over sanctums. Removing them from crappy truesec space isn't going to increase fights over ratting space significantly, which was at about zilch as is.
Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.05 16:58:00 - [268] Originally by: ShadowsMirror The nerf makes perfect sense 1) Currently there is no benefit from being in a -0.9 system vs a -0.1. Those systems are the core of each alliance & thus their prized possessions. Why should the renters get the same benefits as the core? You're wrong on this point ShadowsMirror. The belt rats have a greater value depending on truesec. Also mining in the lower sec is better than the high sec. Also, just because people may be renters does not mean they have the crap systems either. Why not keep the same amount of havens & sanctums for each system constant and change how much the rats are worth? Originally by: ShadowsMirror 2) 0.0 has always been purpose built to be competitive, both within alliances holding sov & those seeking to acquire it. Gone are the days of logging in, dual boxing a sanctum with no risk, tons of reward. You will now have to actually compete with fellow corp mates if you system will have any anomalies left. Those without any, its back to ratting / sites / empire level 4s etc. 600 people competing for 60 havens and sanctums is 10 to 1... 600 to 1 ratio is a little bit ridiculous. I mean... why not 20 to 1... 30 to 1... but 600 to 1? DAMN! Originally by: ShadowsMirror 3) Those thinking of quitting, please, it's been done before & you know your addicted. Lifestyle changes are a fact of life. Are you really going to throw away your character / time / money etc of a few sanctums? Get real It's a sandbox, it was "fixed" once... now the teacher doesn't like the rules she made, so now, there is no throwing sand in the sandbox, just because she's got sand in her box (aka having to fix server lag because of the 0.0 wars, running people out of 0.0 is not a fix for lag). It's not a few sanctums... It's 40% of all the havens and sanctums across the board are gone. The problem is that it only affects some people and not others negatively based on truesec that had nothing to do with the current game play. I'm just saying why not vet the idea... get input from "stakeholders", players, alliances, on changes everyone can swallow instead of forcing the full [mentally handicapped] changes on everyone. Abinadi9 http://www.evethink.com
ShadowsMirror	Posted - 2011.04.05 17:04:00 - [269] Quote: So what you're saying is that the alliance that created safe space risked nothing? Get real. Speaking of risk vs. reward, why would anyone bother settling in a system that gives you about the same benefits as lowsec, but you have to pay for it? Also there's been about 0 wars started over sanctums. Removing them from crappy truesec space isn't going to increase fights over ratting space significantly, which was at about zilch as is. New corps / alliances looking for a foothold into 0.0, even if its a crap sec level, are lured in by sov benefits, having their own system with belts, ded plexes, pvp, jump bridge networks etc. All thanks to SOV. Wonderful isnt it? What your complaining about is having to move or adapt, boo hoo. You have all of eve to pick from now, enjoy.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.05 17:11:00 - [270] Originally by: ShadowsMirror New corps / alliances looking for a foothold into 0.0, even if its a crap sec level, are lured in by sov benefits, having their own system with belts, ded plexes, pvp, jump bridge networks etc. The problem is that they won't have any of that since they won't be able to afford it because the crap sec level means their space is only a waste of ISK. They'll get the same things with much less hassle by simply living in high/low-sec and doing 0.0-raidsà àwhich is pretty much 100% contrary to what CCP's stated objective with the patch. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.05 17:13:00 - [271] Originally by: ShadowsMirror New corps / alliances looking for a foothold into 0.0, even if its a crap sec level, are lured in by sov benefits Which benefits would those be now in systems 0.00 to -0.24? Originally by: ShadowsMirror having their own system with belts, ded plexes, pvp, jump bridge networks etc. So now I can mine in 0.0, pay 750m ISK for the entrapment upgrades (until ccp nerfs this as well in 17 months), you can get your ass kicked by people who have money to buy better ships (because it's based on the old system of truesec), and those awesome jump bridges that bring everyone to 0.0 (not sure how you think these bring everyone to 0.0). Originally by: ShadowsMirror All thanks to SOV. Wonderful isnt it? What your complaining about is having to move or adapt, boo hoo. You have all of eve to pick from now, enjoy. People are complaining because they have moved and adapted to the "sandbox" rules and the sandbox is just being removed from the playground. ShadowMirror, are you a care bear mission runner or do you just mine? Abinadi9 http://www.evethink.com
ShadowsMirror	Posted - 2011.04.05 17:19:00 - [272] Quote: The problem is that they won't have any of that since they won't be able to afford it because the crap sec level means their space is only a waste of ISK. They'll get the same things with much less hassle by simply living in high/low-sec and doing 0.0-raidsà àwhich is pretty much 100% contrary to what CCP's stated objective with the patch. I used to live in great wildlands (npc space), in a constellation bordering another region. There was only one way through the pipe, and it was where our alliances was. Next door there was a -0.9 or -1.0 security system, the lowest possible to have. We were prohibited from ratting or scanning down plexes as it belonged to the core alliance. So we had access to our alliances 'systems', but not the cores. Sure at the time we were renting from foundation, but if we could have sov benefits I probably would have stayed. Sanctums were rare finds and there are plenty of systems within our allotted space with dozens of belts... I think the majority of folks complaining are looking at it from a very personal & limited scope. Either that or your all way too spoiled...
Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.05 17:30:00 - [273] Originally by: ShadowsMirror I used to live in great wildlands (npc space) So admittedly, you don't have a dog in this fight. Originally by: ShadowsMirror , in a constellation bordering another region. Scalding Pass, Ismother, Geminate, or Catch? Originally by: ShadowsMirror There was only one way through the pipe, and it was where our alliances was. yar har! Originally by: ShadowsMirror Next door there was a -0.9 or -1.0 security system, the lowest possible to have. Actually I checked dotlan, there is no -.9 or -1.0 system bordering "right next door" to GWL. Originally by: ShadowsMirror We were prohibited from ratting or scanning down plexes as it belonged to the core alliance. So your "alliance" was a pet of another alliance that was in one of these systems? Why didn't you just go to a 0.0 instead of picking up the scraps like a pet? Originally by: ShadowsMirror So we had access to our alliances 'systems', but not the cores. Why did you quote systems? Did they not exist or something? Originally by: ShadowsMirror Sure at the time we were renting from foundation, but if we could have sov benefits I probably would have stayed. So admittedly, you didn't like living in systems that are going to be like the new 0.0 to -0.24 systems. Originally by: ShadowsMirror Sanctums were rare finds and there are plenty of systems within our allotted space with dozens of belts... Except with the new game mechanics there will be no sanctums in the 0.0 to -0.24 systems. Originally by: ShadowsMirror I think the majority of folks complaining are looking at it from a very personal & limited scope. Just as you have related to us, your personal and limited scope. Originally by: ShadowsMirror Either that or your all way too spoiled... Or we actually just liked the sandbox rules that existed.
Im Super Gay	Posted - 2011.04.05 17:39:00 - [274] Originally by: ShadowsMirror New corps / alliances looking for a foothold into 0.0, even if its a crap sec level, are lured in by sov benefits, having their own system with belts, ded plexes, pvp, jump bridge networks etc. All thanks to SOV. Wonderful isnt it? What your complaining about is having to move or adapt, boo hoo. You have all of eve to pick from now, enjoy. You know a corp/alliance can have their own system with belts by controlling a portion of lowsec, right? Along with those DED plexes, which btw the entrapment arrays don't seem to work anyway . Please explain how an entry level alliance is going to be able to make enough money beyond the sov bills to do anything. Besides that, the only benefits of living in crappy 0.0 now is jump bridges (although I doubt there's any alliances that move to 0.0 so they can put up jump bridges ) and the ability to make supercaps. Which, in addition to the aforementioned money problems of crappy truesec, I don't believe a larger alliance is going to allow supercaps to be built right under their noses. You want truesec to mean something? Start the crappy truesec off where it is now (2 havens, 2 sanctums) and increase the number from there as you get to better truesec. That way there's something of an isk source for entry level alliances, who can't rely on moon goo. The changes now make the rich richer (large alliances) and the poor poorer (entry level alliances). Not that the entry level alliances stood a chance before, but now they stand much less of a chance now. Go back to lvl 4 missions kkthxbai. In b4 denial of running lvl 4 missions.
clideb50	Posted - 2011.04.05 17:57:00 - [275] After reading the 1st two pages of people whining I've found a solution to their anom problems. Why don't you invest in a helios (or similar ship) and scan down other sites to run. Simple as that, or are you afraid to have to do that much extra work for your isk?
AJ Deathwing	Posted - 2011.04.05 18:00:00 - [276] Originally by: Abinadi9 Actually I checked dotlan, there is no -.9 or -1.0 system bordering "right next door" to GWL. I think the system shadow means is V-IH6B (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Great_Wildlands/V-IH6B) its the only -1 tru sec system thats anywhere near a region border and its the one bordering to Etherium Reach, i used to live in BRT-OP which is the "Actual" border system, even so NPC 0.0 is terribad and there was no point doing anything other than mining in that system as it only had 6 belts, that isnt enuff to support one ratter and tbqh the mining in there wasnt all that good either, i use to ninja all the good roids every day after DT with about 5 hulks
Brother KazUhl	Posted - 2011.04.05 18:12:00 - [277] Oh how we love patch-ragequits. Yes we do! patpat On a more serious note: I enjoy EVE out of the awesome **load of LORE it possesses that probably half or more of the folks here hardly even know exists. Good fiction and it deserves praise DAMNIT! Hardly ANY other MMO gives you that much fun stuff to read. Apart from so called Free-To-Play MMO's that charge everything past the base stuff, which MMO's give you lots of free expansions? And mostly of all... which MMO lets all you mischievious and EEEVIIIL bastards prey on your fellow players and ENCOURAGES it since its part of the universal nature of mankind and therefore, in a primarily human-driven Sci-Fi-Setting, EVE Online. I love EVE. The learning curve is horrendously evil and its good. Life is hard too. So if you feel like YOUR very personal experience of EVE is in terrible danger because you have to change and adapt again then do RageQuit. See if anybody gives a . If you ragequit life, called suicide by some, God or the State that ate your taxes gives about the same amount of ** like CCP. Given, your friends and family will miss you. Hopefully. Seeing the GLORIOUS simmilarities? This is the funny simmilarity between EVE and real life. You either adapt or fail and get trampled. EVE has given you much and to be frank with you guys, having 6 accounts is too much for anybody remotely sane or employed. That is if you are able to actually use them all. I pay for my subscription, I am a total wuss each time I cross over into low or zero and the game is FUN because of it. DEADSPACE 2 or AMNESIA couldn't scare me more than loosing my ship there. And its good. So you have a few choices from my, yes... total lowsec-n00bish, way of thinking: a) Pay for EVE like the majority, and while at it stop whining about paying when you are farming ISK 4 PLEX... this is insulting to the guys that work their asses off for you. b) Try to keep your ISK-Lifestyle and evolve and adapt in this new hostile universe. c) Ragequit one or more accounts and see who gives a flying Gallentean Nipple piercing. Nobody will, since they are best fitted to a nipple of course. I for one am happy with the patch, live mostly in High-Sec where I plan terrorist attacks on other players with my Alts ... why? BECAUSE I CAN! Weeee! ... dear lord, I am so going to be dead in a week, but somebody had to say it... again! Sincerely, -Brother Kaz'Uhl
Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.05 18:12:00 - [278] Originally by: clideb50 After reading the 1st two pages of people whining I've found a solution to their anom problems. Why don't you invest in a helios (or similar ship) and scan down other sites to run. Simple as that, or are you afraid to have to do that much extra work for your isk? So having an opinion is whining? Guys like DH need to spend another 11.25B ISK to upgrade to entrapment arrays (things that didn't work right before this patch) to upgrade all their systems because CCP decided they didn't need the havens or sanctums in their systems at all. YOU'RE SO SMART!
Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.05 18:19:00 - [279] Originally by: Brother KazUhl I pay for my subscription As do I. Originally by: Brother KazUhl a) Pay for EVE like the majority, and while at it stop whining about paying when you are farming ISK 4 PLEX... this is insulting to the guys that work their asses off for you. This won't fix ISK farming, as a lot of that is done in 0.0 using belt rats. Originally by: Brother KazUhl b) Try to keep your ISK-Lifestyle and evolve and adapt in this new hostile universe. The correct quote is "adapt again" Originally by: Brother KazUhl c) Ragequit one or more accounts and see who gives a flying Gallentean Nipple piercing. Nobody will, since they are best fitted to a nipple of course. Nobody would care if you quit either. Originally by: Brother KazUhl I for one am happy with the patch, live mostly in High-Sec where I plan terrorist attacks on other players with my Alts ... why? BECAUSE I CAN! Weeee! Of course you are, it doesn't effect you. Lets take out level four missions and see how much you like it. The fact of the matter is that mission running is more of a faucet because the majority of people are in high sec. Originally by: Brother KazUhl ... dear lord, I am so going to be dead in a week, but somebody had to say it... again! Don't tease me like that.
Dirk Decibel	Posted - 2011.04.05 18:24:00 - [280] Awesome petsj! I love all the little tweaks and fixes. <3 Keep it going CCP! Plenty of more to tweak and fix

Abinadi9 NerdHerd	Posted - 2011.04.05 18:29:00 - [281] Edited by: Abinadi9 on 05/04/2011 18:31:14 Originally by: Dirk Decibel I love all the little tweaks and fixes. <3 Keep it going CCP! Plenty of more to tweak and fix Including level 4 & 5 missions only being in 0.0 so people getting screwed over by the 0.0 nerf can have some fun Tech moons being redistributed. Truesec map being redrawn for relevances. Dynamically shifting truesec. A withdrawal of CONCORD from 0.5-0.6 systems.
clideb50	Posted - 2011.04.05 19:33:00 - [282] Edited by: clideb50 on 05/04/2011 19:33:31 Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: clideb50 After reading the 1st two pages of people whining I've found a solution to their anom problems. Why don't you invest in a helios (or similar ship) and scan down other sites to run. Simple as that, or are you afraid to have to do that much extra work for your isk? So having an opinion is whining? Guys like DH need to spend another 11.25B ISK to upgrade to entrapment arrays (things that didn't work right before this patch) to upgrade all their systems because CCP decided they didn't need the havens or sanctums in their systems at all. YOU'RE SO SMART! 1)Okay sorry after reading the 1st two pages of opinions* 2) Who is DH? 3)Take a deep breath. Yes it sucks the value of some nullsec systems are going to be reduced, but if systems are useless to larger alliances they won't care about them. Thus there will be some openings for people who want to just have some sov. Also half of this page is just you debating...
Brother KazUhl	Posted - 2011.04.05 20:20:00 - [283] Edited by: Brother KazUhl on 05/04/2011 20:20:53 Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: Brother KazUhl I pay for my subscription As do I. Neat-Oh! shakehands Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: Brother KazUhl a) Pay for EVE like the majority, and while at it stop whining about paying when you are farming ISK 4 PLEX... this is insulting to the guys that work their asses off for you. This won't fix ISK farming, as a lot of that is done in 0.0 using belt rats. Agreed, this is meant as a sarcastic generalization and to make people think, even if a bit rude in phrasing. Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: Brother KazUhl b) Try to keep your ISK-Lifestyle and evolve and adapt in this new hostile universe. The correct quote is "adapt again" I stand corrected, and shamed, as I thought my implication that the general evolution of the playerbase and their respective skills, not character-skills mind you, is for the betterment of EVE Online was obvious. Stagnation, in content and skill, is the death of an MMO. See WoW and trailblazers. Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: Brother KazUhl c) Ragequit one or more accounts and see who gives a flying Gallentean Nipple piercing. Nobody will, since they are best fitted to a nipple of course. Nobody would care if you quit either. Of course not, and I've never implied that anybody would. I am quite realistic there, thank you. Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: Brother KazUhl I for one am happy with the patch, live mostly in High-Sec where I plan terrorist attacks on other players with my Alts ... why? BECAUSE I CAN! Weeee! Of course you are, it doesn't effect you. Lets take out level four missions and see how much you like it. The fact of the matter is that mission running is more of a faucet because the majority of people are in high sec. I say let us! Change should be the only true constant. Again, stagnation is death. Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: Brother KazUhl ... dear lord, I am so going to be dead in a week, but somebody had to say it... again! Don't tease me like that. I am not teasing, merely stating my profoundly accurate divinations of Murphy's Law in my regard. Interestingly enough I expected more ... lets say verbal-WHACK! but thank you for your nice and stoic reply. Keep it up and I have one more check to make on my misanthropic list of whorthwhile humans. That would be ... nice. Sincerely, -Brother Kaz'Uhl (damn you totalbuiscuit for making me talk like a effin' gentleman alluvasudden! gg)
Renan Ruivo Caldari Hipernova Tribal Conclave	Posted - 2011.04.05 21:39:00 - [284] Edited by: Renan Ruivo on 05/04/2011 21:39:19 Guys... its called Forlorn Hub. For real. Try them. I mean it. Report back here once you did. ____________ I like woman because breasts
WBS	Posted - 2011.04.05 21:46:00 - [285] I was wondering if anyone else has the ability to download the client, I cant seem to get past selecting my O/S, is it unavailable this early before a patch...I dont mind playing other games, but only when fored too, awesome for a carbon based life form
edfhk'lkhff	Posted - 2011.04.05 21:48:00 - [286] Get off demin honters sack already...let someone else have a turn.
iaunplexneamule	Posted - 2011.04.05 21:56:00 - [287] THE PROBLEM THAT players put up with CCP crap and CCP doesnt give a damn because they wont lose many players And you wanna know why? because there is no competition, i mean there is no other single game that competes with eve online, sure you will say there are a lot o games like eve and i tell you there are space simulator mmo's but all are crap an **y and they are f2p and have shop and the game is published only for the ****s that wanna make fast lvl's exp money and stuff like that. I say stop crying and find new ways to make isk, the anomalies wont die is not like they will remove them totaly, you can make decent money from smaller anomalies not only sanctums and heavens and the good part is that campers wont come to bother you they will go in -1 an -0.8 systems. So stop crying about this and put your brains to work.
WBS	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:08:00 - [288] What a great game you pay for an account and you cant even dowload it..way to go CCP I paid you for nothing when do I get to download the game so I can play it..I guess some whiz kid thought it be a good idea to drop the file server early.
Slaangani Gallente Psychedelic Party	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:10:00 - [289] arg! another day off and another patch day sigh. oh well, time to go into that mythical place called outside
SingMi	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:23:00 - [290] So we have CCP Bella Bee in here discussing re-sculpture and other really important stuff like portraits..Where is Greyscale to discuss the impending 0.0 nerf? nowhere...not a single response to this or the anon thread which at the moment has 96 pages! CCP I would just like to inform you...We pay your salary, which judging by the reaction in these threads will very soon drop. Think about what you are doing; months of hard work from corps to purchase and setup iHubs, raise military, industry levels. What you are doing will destroy all of that, and you are doing it with ZERO response and ZERO warning. Such a lack of communication shows the contempt you have for your playerbase, which as I already stated will drop.

Erichk Knaar Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:29:00 - [291] Originally by: SingMi So we have CCP Bella Bee in here discussing re-sculpture and other really important stuff like portraits..Where is Greyscale to discuss the impending 0.0 nerf? nowhere...not a single response to this or the anon thread which at the moment has 96 pages! CCP I would just like to inform you...We pay your salary, which judging by the reaction in these threads will very soon drop. Think about what you are doing; months of hard work from corps to purchase and setup iHubs, raise military, industry levels. What you are doing will destroy all of that, and you are doing it with ZERO response and ZERO warning. Such a lack of communication shows the contempt you have for your playerbase, which as I already stated will drop. What exactly can Greyscale do or say at this point. People are in a frothy rage. CCP have to do this to save their game long term. Nothing he can possible say will make you happy, although I do agree that they should have just described it as what it is in the first place. The only really appropriate thing Greyscale could possibly add to this thread or the other one would be: "Can I have your stuff?" I would lol.
Jack Gilligan Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:40:00 - [292] I disagree. He can say one thing that will make everyone happy, "The anomaly changes in upgraded systems has been removed from the patch, and will not be re-introduced in any form without engagement of the community and the CSM".
Brother KazUhl	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:02:00 - [293] I still find it utterly adorable how most players think they are paying the salaries of the developers. First of, you don't. Not even remotely. Even if half of the EVE comunity would quit, CCP would still be here. The only thing that gets a cut if people unsubscribe is their budget... and guess what? This will just make their progress slower, their hardware less cutting-edge than the competition and basically make them less of a danger to their competitors. Yes, it is a given that eventually the whole of EVE could die of that but that is highly unlikely. For one, EVE never had the immense player-count that a WOW had. Also they do not need them. They have been the MMO-Underdog for years and are probably good at working with a lower budget than Blizzard by now. Face it, you have about as much impact on their salaries as you have on the salaries of your local policemen. You pay taxes yes, and in the end the taxes are used by the state to form a budget that gets used ... in part ... to pay the policemen, but rave and rant all you want, you will not make them get any more or any less money. Same here, only that its the free market. Why some people still cling to their hope that unsubscribing will make much impact is beyond my comprehension. You are a statistic. Deal with it. If I get shot on the street tonight I am headline for a week tops and a statistic for the rest of my countrys time left. Same when you subscribe or unsubscribe. You matter in the annual board-meetings as a tiny speck in the statistic that is either in Black or Red numbers. Thats about it. And yes, I believe that a gaming company should listen to their customers, since a happy customer is a paying one, no doubt about that. ^_~ I just find everybody laughable that thinks that posting stuff like '**ing patch! Imma unsubscribe now wads!' will make anybody care in any way shape or form. The only reasonable answer to that, for the developers, and I believe it was already stated numerous times is this: 'Too bad, can I have your stuff?' So, get your heads outta your asses and use them. More constructive critique might get you your precious... whatever it is you are whining about, back in a future patch. Of course I am just one guy and therefore my opinion is as good as the one above and below me. Still I feel generous and wanted to share. BTW CCP-Staff... I hope you listen to the constructive parts and just ** on the nonsense-rants. Thank you and good night.
VIncent Vance Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:04:00 - [294] More typical tunnel vision from the NC on display here again....
Abinadi9 NerdHerd Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:39:00 - [295] Originally by: edfhk'lkhff Get off demin honters sack already...let someone else have a turn. Who's on their sack? I'm pointing them out as an example who's getting screwed. I'm in DRF for crying out loud :)
Abinadi9 NerdHerd Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:43:00 - [296] Originally by: Jack Gilligan I disagree. He can say one thing that will make everyone happy, "The anomaly changes in upgraded systems has been removed from the patch, and will not be re-introduced in any form without engagement of the community and the CSM". No Jack, not even that would make everyone happy. Only 93.7% of the player base.
Abinadi9 NerdHerd Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:55:00 - [297] Originally by: Brother KazUhl I still find it utterly adorable how most players think they are paying the salaries of the developers. First of, you don't. Not even remotely. Would you care to share where you believe the money tree is in Iceland? Is it Hillmer's trust fund that supports everything? Originally by: Brother KazUhl Even if half of the EVE comunity would quit, CCP would still be here. The only thing that gets a cut if people unsubscribe is their budget... and guess what? Correct me if I'm wrong, developer salaries come from a budget don't they? Originally by: Brother KazUhl For one, EVE never had the immense player-count that a WOW had. Also they do not need them. They have been the MMO-Underdog for years and are probably good at working with a lower budget than Blizzard by now. So, who's talking about WOW? Honestly, no one wants this game to be comparable to WOW in any factor. Not in game play, not in pvp, mechanics, anything. Originally by: Brother KazUhl Face it, you have about as much impact on their salaries as you have on the salaries of your local policemen. You pay taxes yes, and in the end the taxes are used by the state to form a budget that gets used ... in part ... to pay the policemen, but rave and rant all you want, you will not make them get any more or any less money. Are you saying the US federal government will step in and subsidize CCP if all the players quit? Originally by: Brother KazUhl Why some people still cling to their hope that unsubscribing will make much impact is beyond my comprehension. You are a statistic. Deal with it. Yes, you are too, one of the 6.6% that support CCP in this patch. Originally by: Brother KazUhl If I get shot on the street tonight I am headline for a week tops and a statistic for the rest of my countrys time left. Man you are a tease, two today! Originally by: Brother KazUhl Same when you subscribe or unsubscribe. You matter in the annual board-meetings as a tiny speck in the statistic that is either in Black or Red numbers. Thats about it. Enough red will influence decisions. They're called trends and patterns. Originally by: Brother KazUhl And yes, I believe that a gaming company should listen to their customers, since a happy customer is a paying one, no doubt about that. ^_~ I just find everybody laughable that thinks that posting stuff like '**ing patch! Imma unsubscribe now *wads!' will make anybody care in any way shape or form. The only reasonable answer to that, for the developers, and I believe it was already stated numerous times is this: 'Too bad, can I have your stuff?' Or employ what normal companies do and here it comes* listen to what your customers want. Originally by: Brother KazUhl So, get your heads outta your asses and use them. What would you like me to do with my ass? Originally by: Brother KazUhl More constructive critique might get you your precious... whatever it is you are whining about, back in a future patch. A more detailed conversation with the customer base about megachanges instead of a 3 week turn around from announcement to implementation and consulting the "stake holders", the CSM for example, would be helpful. Originally by: Brother KazUhl BTW CCP-Staff... I hope you listen to the constructive parts and just **** on the nonsense-rants. They won't.
Aveneo SkyNet Technologies Inc.	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:59:00 - [298] Faction FoF missiles have now appropriate faction tags? That's nice, but when are FoF missiles going to be fixed so they target enemy ships (as they're supposed to) instead of targeting structures, neutral/friendly ships and basically everything except those enemies that are hammering away at you unchallenged because the FoF missiles are too busy trying to destroy pieces of space junk, fellow squad members and (npc) ships you were supposed to assist? As I recall from real life deployment, these types of missiles should distinguish between friend or foe and engage the latter whilst avoiding the former. But in their present state they are not working as intended in EVE Online. I would really appreciate it if you guys could look into this.
Abinadi9 NerdHerd Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.04.06 00:02:00 - [299] Originally by: SingMi Where is Greyscale to discuss the impending 0.0 nerf? nowhere...not a single response to this or the anon thread which at the moment has 96 pages! Well why would he? He doesn't owe anyone anything, after all, this is a perfect decision that MOST people agree with. $20 bucks says he doesn't say one more word before the patch hits and they change everything.
Brother KazUhl	Posted - 2011.04.06 00:05:00 - [300] Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: Brother KazUhl I still find it utterly adorable how most players think they are paying the salaries of the developers. First of, you don't. Not even remotely. Would you care to share where you believe the money tree is in Iceland? Is it Hillmer's trust fund that supports everything? Originally by: Brother KazUhl Even if half of the EVE comunity would quit, CCP would still be here. The only thing that gets a cut if people unsubscribe is their budget... and guess what? Correct me if I'm wrong, developer salaries come from a budget don't they? Originally by: Brother KazUhl For one, EVE never had the immense player-count that a WOW had. Also they do not need them. They have been the MMO-Underdog for years and are probably good at working with a lower budget than Blizzard by now. So, who's talking about WOW? Honestly, no one wants this game to be comparable to WOW in any factor. Not in game play, not in pvp, mechanics, anything. Originally by: Brother KazUhl Face it, you have about as much impact on their salaries as you have on the salaries of your local policemen. You pay taxes yes, and in the end the taxes are used by the state to form a budget that gets used ... in part ... to pay the policemen, but rave and rant all you want, you will not make them get any more or any less money. Are you saying the US federal government will step in and subsidize CCP if all the players quit? Originally by: Brother KazUhl Why some people still cling to their hope that unsubscribing will make much impact is beyond my comprehension. You are a statistic. Deal with it. Yes, you are too, one of the 6.6% that support CCP in this patch. Originally by: Brother KazUhl If I get shot on the street tonight I am headline for a week tops and a statistic for the rest of my countrys time left. Man you are a tease, two today! Originally by: Brother KazUhl Same when you subscribe or unsubscribe. You matter in the annual board-meetings as a tiny speck in the statistic that is either in Black or Red numbers. Thats about it. Enough red will influence decisions. They're called trends and patterns. Originally by: Brother KazUhl And yes, I believe that a gaming company should listen to their customers, since a happy customer is a paying one, no doubt about that. ^_~ I just find everybody laughable that thinks that posting stuff like '**ing patch! Imma unsubscribe now *wads!' will make anybody care in any way shape or form. The only reasonable answer to that, for the developers, and I believe it was already stated numerous times is this: 'Too bad, can I have your stuff?' Or employ what normal companies do and here it comes* listen to what your customers want. Originally by: Brother KazUhl So, get your heads outta your asses and use them. What would you like me to do with my ass? Originally by: Brother KazUhl More constructive critique might get you your precious... whatever it is you are whining about, back in a future patch. A more detailed conversation with the customer base about megachanges instead of a 3 week turn around from announcement to implementation and consulting the "stake holders", the CSM for example, would be helpful. Originally by: Brother KazUhl BTW CCP-Staff... I hope you listen to the constructive parts and just ** on the nonsense-rants. They won't. I will reply to this when I can give a ** again, but then in detail, as I feel that you deserve it at least. =P

Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2011.04.06 00:10:00 - [301] So I guess the new DED plexes that will now spawn, are where the missing complex loot items (like most of the deadspace 10MN MicrowarpDrives) can be found? If so, Yay.
Singion Hawk	Posted - 2011.04.06 00:34:00 - [302] can we not all be bff and goto jita to complain see how there node copes with that
Erichk Knaar Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.06 00:46:00 - [303] Originally by: Abinadi9 Originally by: Jack Gilligan I disagree. He can say one thing that will make everyone happy, "The anomaly changes in upgraded systems has been removed from the patch, and will not be re-introduced in any form without engagement of the community and the CSM". No Jack, not even that would make everyone happy. Only 93.7% of the player base. You mean 93.7% of the 300 or so people who bothered to vote in your poll.
clideb50	Posted - 2011.04.06 01:12:00 - [304] sadly I those 300 are in you're alliance
Nikita Keriget	Posted - 2011.04.06 01:19:00 - [305] Yay for unlimited character re-customization in station, thanks CCP! Higher resolution portrait viewing options also rock. My only remaining complaint regarding the character creator is a lack of outfits. Before the new character creator there were a lot of unique racial clothing options that I loved. I feel like the new clothing options are a bit less diverse. I'd totally pay a plex to get access to new character creator versions of all the old clothing options. Pretty please?
Im Super Gay	Posted - 2011.04.06 01:25:00 - [306] Originally by: Guillame Herschel So I guess the new DED plexes that will now spawn, are where the missing complex loot items (like most of the deadspace 10MN MicrowarpDrives) can be found? If so, Yay. I was thinking along the lines of deadspace invul fields, cap rechargers, cap power relays, PDU's, RCU's, neuts, etc. But yeah, now that I think about it, there's a few current deadspace items that are in the database but never drop. I hope its both
StillBorn CrackBaby	Posted - 2011.04.06 02:41:00 - [307] Originally by: PLEX Purchaser Meh.. Played a lot of other MMO's, Final Fantasy XI , FF XIV , Wow , and a fair few others.. I paid a hefty amount for other mmo's upwards to 80$ ~ 100$ USD for some.. Of the majority of MMOs I played, we got new major content patches about once every 2 years and had to pay for it, another 45$ for each expansion.. same with most Main stream MMO's .. Content comes slow and they almost always charge more money for it right along with having to continue paying your subscriptions.. minor bug fixes would come from time to time and other then that you don't get much else other then your next bill... Since starting Eve online.. I have enjoy numerous content updates and bug fixes, and I have not paid nothing more then my subs, "which is surprisin I can also read fairly well so I have also noticed the Dev Blogs explaining Lag, why it is so, and what they have been doing about it.. along with what they intend to do about it.. So I understand with no need to complain that they are doing everything they can and that they are also still giving us Bug fix's and new content at the same time.. Oh yeah and the 0.0 to true sec changes for plexs and anomalies etc.. are you guys not living in 0.0 for PvP and conquest etc.. from my point of view these changes give reason to fight and conquer space.. if you really have an issue with this just go back to high sec where you belong lol.. cause clearly if you fear for your ability to live in 0.0 with true sec, then you must not have much regard for your alliance mates as to there ability to conquer and hold space of higher value :( I am a more then satisfied consumer.. my money seems to go a lot farther in Eve online I have multiple accounts and although there are issues in the game and everything isn't 100% perfect the game has more to offer then most other games and is still giving me free content.. even if some of it isn't exactly what I wanted personally, I'm not 12 years old and gonna act like I can speak for the entire Eve community by saying something like "Once again CCP fails to listen to there customers" or "I pay my subs so we own this game, do as I say, arrr" Instead will say that, I'm sorry but Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the entire community doesn't like it or parts of it.. CCP probably doesn't give a ** if you personally don't like every feature they add in there game (and I don't blame them) and here is a interesting fact.. I watched Fanfest, and they said it had been 18 months since last Fanfest and there user base has increased 20% in that time.. so would have to say that not only is the majority of players fairly happy with the game but they also managed to have a growth of 20% of new players/accounts, and are growing steady still.. so sounds like CCP is doing a pretty damn impressively good job to me. not only that Plex system is awesome, someone else complain that CCP would lose money because they would not be able to maintain there subs with the true sec changes in 0.0.. come on really? lol said something like I do sanctums 5 or 6 days a month to pay for 6 accounts and pvp the rest of the month.. so if they remove them there losing 4 of your paid subs.. OMG you might have to do a couple more days of PvE to pay for you subs .. LoL until your ** alliance pulls together to conquer some space that has the plexs you desire!! maybe it's just me, but I kinda feel like, if your maintaining 6 accounts you gotta serious addiction and I doubt that CCP gonna have to worry about losing money from you.. But hey, Is just my 2 ISK worth of Input.. I agree 100%. I have 5 accounts, pay cash for all 5. I'm amazed at how some people are so adamant they will not give CCP "a dime of their money". Who needs customers like that? I see so many new players coming into EVE all the time, who cares if these old whiners quit for any reason.
Ganryder Caldari Invicta.	Posted - 2011.04.06 02:45:00 - [308] Adapt and survive ffs... Eve changes, deal with it! So should we all, weres the fun with everything staying the same? One thing we all miss tho, Old jump effects, way cooler!
StillBorn CrackBaby	Posted - 2011.04.06 03:00:00 - [309] Originally by: Aderata Nonkin Originally by: Atridies to introduce a patch nobody really wants. Speak for yourself, tough guy. Quote: Sounds to me like it's cancellation time. Good riddance! Don't forget to contract your stuff to me before you buzz off. Yep, I won't miss him either...
Juggalo Stazz	Posted - 2011.04.06 03:13:00 - [310] Originally by: Slaangani arg! another day off and another patch day sigh. oh well, time to go into that mythical place called outside Wait, wait, wait! There is another place other than in front of my computer screen? I am going to have to look in to this!

Fircon	Posted - 2011.04.06 05:26:00 - [311] So, there is another goal to enter low sec space. Aren¦t there already better complexes to go for? Better moons? Better everything? So what about consequenses - what about station that have already been build for billions of isk? LOL - Upgrades that are more or less useless now for anomalies. No more havens.... Don¦t tell people only the way it goes - but solutions for those who played this game for years and invest tons of time to create a home for their corp.
Fircon	Posted - 2011.04.06 05:28:00 - [312] So, there is another goal to enter low sec space. Aren¦t there already better complexes to go for? Better moons? Better everything? So what about consequenses - what about station that have already been build for billions of isk? LOL - Upgrades that are more or less useless now for anomalies. No more havens.... Don¦t tell people only the way it goes - but solutions for those who played this game for years and invest tons of time to create a home for their corp.
Justin Cody Caldari Instant Annihilation Everto Rex Regis	Posted - 2011.04.06 06:05:00 - [313] Originally by: Jno Aubrey Originally by: Terminal Entry Originally by: Woodiex3 I must say who ever pushed this through at CCP is going to have a some very intersting meetings coming up. after a sharp drop in subs. "how was a 5%-15% drop in subscriptions good for the game" reply "We have a better game for it" "more people are cancelling everyday" reply "people will soon start fighting for better space i promise, and come back" I feel sorry for the ppl at CCP who are trying to make a better game, not for the ppl trying to make a name for themselves. note to CCP ppl dont take well to being treated like chit and ask them to pay for it. no1 likes nerf's but normally there understandable. this one is not thats why there's such a reaction. It would be nice to know what you are talking about. I suspect that it's the anomalies in 0.0. The quality of roids and rats are already based on the truesec through out Eve, why not anomalies? BTW I like the 5-15% figure, where did you pull that from? An awful lot of nullsec dwellers like to think of themselves as the majority (or at least the only ones who are Important). The facts show that the opposite is true, certainly from a CCP economic perspective. As of the Q3 edition of the economic report, there were 600,000 (87%) characters located in Empire, and only 77,000 (10.7%) in nullsec. So, thinking that up to 15% of accounts are going to be cancelled over this is just a technicolor dream. So, 0.0 carebears, what can you do to improve your voting power? How about trying really hard to bring more people into nullsec and improve your influence with CCP? How about establishing proper industry wings and spending assets to protect and encourage them while they make you ISK and discounted ships? How about trying your hand at some of the other aspects of Eve than just blowing stuff up and then ratting to replace the stuff you had blown up? Eve is a rich and complex environment and there are a whole lot more ways to make ISK in 0.0 space than just running anomalies! Oh, and thanks CCP for fixing a bunch of the annoying "paper cuts" in this upcoming patch! 1) Your opinion is valued 2) It is a horrendously misinformed opinion 3) CCP has always state that they wanted people to GTFO of empire and into 00 4) They have yet to make a truly compelling reason to force carebears out of camelot 5) They should move all level 3 and 4 agents to low sec space 6) Do another gate redirect and DOUBLE if not TRIPLE the size of empire space in systems 7) Yeah you can do things other than anomalies, but why punish those people? In empire you can make more money in more safety. Heck just moving goods around you can trade on margins and make a good living from that. However this patch is full of punishment and gives us players LESS of a reason to go to 00 as CCP just made stuff more scarce. I guess it just sucks to be in 00. Remind people that profit is the difference between revenue and expense. This makes you look smart. Scott Adams
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.06 07:05:00 - [314] Funny how others say null is only about moon mining and all the rest is just filler. Then when they remove the filler (or move it) everyone goes on a rampage and whines about loosing everything they have. Wasn't it about the moons...? Make up your mind! Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
nano bobcat	Posted - 2011.04.06 07:23:00 - [315] all those who say nobody fights for sanctums, your option is GTFO to empire back! The filthy pet scum, either go for better space or STFU whining, its the intention of this patch, at least you are forced to stop being filthy pet scum. It was always the way, the "cores" settled in a better space and filthy pet scum like SpaceMonkeys, FCON, Fatal Ascension, Violent Entity etc. was put as punch bugs in crappy space, why should you make tons of ISK out of crap space?? It doesnt make any sense.
Lost'In'Space	Posted - 2011.04.06 07:34:00 - [316] Originally by: nano bobcat I love this patch! Me too! I am glad CCP didn't listen to the whiners in that threadnought!
Levistus Junior Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:29:00 - [317] Edited by: Levistus Junior on 06/04/2011 08:32:46 Edited by: Levistus Junior on 06/04/2011 08:31:41 Edited by: Levistus Junior on 06/04/2011 08:31:15 The funniest thing tbh is that most of the guys that support this change are in alliances that don't hold sov (high sec, low sec, npc 0.0) and yet they think they know so much about what effect would this changes to sov space, just like CCP for that matter . Ignoring 100+ pages of disapproval shows how much CCP really cares about ppl that pay to play this game. Also, @ nano bobcat: i don't think anyone has a issue with crappy space<good space. What most people have an issue with is crappy space<high sec in terms of income.
nano bobcat	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:37:00 - [318] Edited by: nano bobcat on 06/04/2011 08:42:17 holding sov is not equal holding sov. Controlled Chaos, for instance, doesnt really "hold" sov. You are one of those NC's pets, who were "allowed" to put your TCUs there because you suck enough. If you hold anything at all, are goons c*cks. Such people should not be in 0.0, the recent patch contributes well to that matter.
Rebel sTuFF Rebel Inc	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:42:00 - [319] Originally by: Serenity 159080 Edited by: Serenity 159080 on 01/04/2011 18:22:50 Wow, where is the love? Players have spent years complaining about the small things in EVE that just annoy the hell out of you, and now CCP are fixing them, and players complain that they don't care. Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. Good point, we do pay for the game, but they are the ones that create it, so I guess without a little of both there would be no game. Also it might be good to remember that this is not your person game, that other people play it and appreciate the changes. As for lag, yep thats a killer. However the dev blogs linked above give good information on why lag is something that can never be removed from the game, just minimised, as shown by the increasing cap on the Jita population. Originally by: Ramingo By 6 hours downtime, to implement a few missing plexes, they of course mean INSHALLAH!!!! As you most likely do not have technical knowledge of the CCP servers and software, then I would say it might be difficult to say what is and is not a long deployment time. However with the changes made to EVE recently, downtime has been reduced substantially, so if they need to take a little extra time for deployment to make sure everything works, thats fine with me. Originally by: Arth Lawing Figured out how to install stone age, freely availible forums. Missing DED plex's we didn't bother doing from years ago added. Other Crap. Many hours offline. And again, I am sure CCP apologise that EVE is not your personaly customised game with all the features you want. As for me, I am quite happy with the way that CCP are moving, they have a long way to go, but are getting there. Server upgrades, staggered release of Incursion, and refocusing on updating old content, all good stuff. But you have to ask yourself, would you want CCP to dedicate an entire expansion just to fixing old content, without bringing out anything new? I think a balance of both is good. Serenity An after thought, a devblog on the recent server problems would be nice, just to fully explain the issues that have been occuring. This is by far the best post i have seen explaning lazy ppl how and why things are going they way they are. I totall agree with it as i don't like the whiners. I still wonder when they (n.b. THE WHINERS) will just leave this unhappy and unfriendly game and go play .... (here would be name of some other game they think it's better....) SURPRISE...mf ... there's no other !!! ahahahaha p.s. and they come back and start whining again... Selling Officer, Faction, Dead Space Modules & BPC >>> http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1430119
Levistus Junior Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:49:00 - [320] Originally by: nano bobcat Edited by: nano bobcat on 06/04/2011 08:40:00 holding sov is not equal holding sov. Controlled Chaos, for instance, doesnt really "hold" sov. You are one of those NC's pets, who were "allowed" to put your TCUs there because you suck enough. If you hold anything at all, are goons c*cks. Well, we at least have firsthand 0.0 experience, unlike you. What makes you think you know better what's best for 0.0?

nano bobcat	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:53:00 - [321] created chars in summer 2008, living in 0.0 since fall 2008, so I would say I know enough...
Sefria	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:56:00 - [322] And so it all begins in just a few min. Enjoy the fun while it lasts.
damach	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:58:00 - [323] lol getting bored of nerfs, i have no problem with rebalancing through new and exciting invention, discovery or exploration. When they invented the atom bomb it wasnt later nerfed because it was too powerful. You want to make low truesec more proportionally valuable do it by making it more valuable with something new not just removing fun from other space. Scientists develop a new wormhole anchoring system, however it can only be used in the most desolate regions of space -0.5 and lower. cost ludicrous (more than a station), and permanent. Players choose where to upgrade but are limited in choice and system is a good target because the upgrade will remain after conquering.
Levistus Junior Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:58:00 - [324] Originally by: nano bobcat created chars in summer 2008, living in 0.0 since fall 2008, so I would say I know enough... At least I post with my main
Levistus Junior Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:02:00 - [325] Originally by: damach lol getting bored of nerfs, i have no problem with rebalancing through new and exciting invention, discovery or exploration. When they invented the atom bomb it wasnt later nerfed because it was too powerful. You want to make low truesec more proportionally valuable do it by making it more valuable with something new not just removing fun from other space. Scientists develop a new wormhole anchoring system, however it can only be used in the most desolate regions of space -0.5 and lower. cost ludicrous (more than a station), and permanent. Players choose where to upgrade but are limited in choice and system is a good target because the upgrade will remain after conquering. Yeah, but nerfing things is easier
SuperNova Illat	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:12:00 - [326] Has no 0.0 player realised that yes there income will be nerfed but there will be less isk in economy so prices will deflate ?
Levistus Junior Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:15:00 - [327] Originally by: SuperNova Illat Has no 0.0 player realised that yes there income will be nerfed but there will be less isk in economy so prices will deflate ? I kind of doubt significantly less isk will enter the economy for the following reason: regions that are getting the biggest buff are the Drone Regions, which are a bot heaven, so botting income will increase. Also, this will make botting more profitable and encourage more people to do it.
half san Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:19:00 - [328] I hope CCP will solve problem with PI, in Planet view "Show other characters networks" still not working. Fly safe.
Tier'dal Kozaks Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:19:00 - [329] As someone who lives in null sec and has for years...im really not to bias about the change. i see everyones points. power blocks will hold everything worth it small alliances will get nothing worth taking. empire will continue to think their opinion matters even though they never step foot in our (null pilot's) space and will continue to make their money in missions. ccp will continue to do what THEY think is best and not the customers. everyone will adjust to make their billions once again like we have been for 8 years. the reason the old players that are still here and strong is bec they adapt. we overcome and make new with a new venture. survival of the fittest. if you dont like go spend your 15/month on some diapers and go back to WoW. im not saying these changes are needed or wanted but they are happening anyway so STFU and deal with it. brought to you by your bitter, vodka drinking, DRF and YES i post with my main :P
nano bobcat	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:22:00 - [330] Originally by: Levistus Junior regions that are getting the biggest buff are the Drone Regions so you crawled under the wrong skirt you say?? :-D

Lupus Lycaon	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:22:00 - [331] Great patch! Whiners will always whine. Keep it up CCP
Howard Saint Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:23:00 - [332] I pay for 2 accounts :) I live in 0.0, atm I wont get any sanctums or havens :) I wont get to use my Sanctum ship much :) I have to start using my brain just a little to make as much isk as before :) I welcome this change !!! Like a Baws
Apocryphon Minmatar InterSun Freelance	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:29:00 - [333] Originally by: Brother KazUhl I still find it utterly adorable how most players think they are paying the salaries of the developers. First of, you don't. Not even remotely. Even if half of the EVE comunity would quit, CCP would still be here. The only thing that gets a cut if people unsubscribe is their budget... and guess what? This will just make their progress slower, their hardware less cutting-edge than the competition and basically make them less of a danger to their competitors. Yes, it is a given that eventually the whole of EVE could die of that but that is highly unlikely. For one, EVE never had the immense player-count that a WOW had. Also they do not need them. They have been the MMO-Underdog for years and are probably good at working with a lower budget than Blizzard by now. Face it, you have about as much impact on their salaries as you have on the salaries of your local policemen. You pay taxes yes, and in the end the taxes are used by the state to form a budget that gets used ... in part ... to pay the policemen, but rave and rant all you want, you will not make them get any more or any less money. Same here, only that its the free market. Why some people still cling to their hope that unsubscribing will make much impact is beyond my comprehension. You are a statistic. Deal with it. If I get shot on the street tonight I am headline for a week tops and a statistic for the rest of my countrys time left. Same when you subscribe or unsubscribe. You matter in the annual board-meetings as a tiny speck in the statistic that is either in Black or Red numbers. Thats about it. And yes, I believe that a gaming company should listen to their customers, since a happy customer is a paying one, no doubt about that. ^_~ I just find everybody laughable that thinks that posting stuff like '**ing patch! Imma unsubscribe now wads!' will make anybody care in any way shape or form. The only reasonable answer to that, for the developers, and I believe it was already stated numerous times is this: 'Too bad, can I have your stuff?' So, get your heads outta your asses and use them. More constructive critique might get you your precious... whatever it is you are whining about, back in a future patch. Of course I am just one guy and therefore my opinion is as good as the one above and below me. Still I feel generous and wanted to share. BTW CCP-Staff... I hope you listen to the constructive parts and just ** on the nonsense-rants. Thank you and good night. As long as you keep posting, I never have to. Thank you!
Hawtchick Amarr Astra Enterprises ROMANIAN-LEGION	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:31:00 - [334] Sanctums being removed from some places. Well it's safe to say that not everyone share the same enthusiasm about the complex add-ons. As for being able to re-customize your character that's a nice feature. Let me express that most of us that have been playing for a long time are aware of the changes regardless of difference of opinions on how the new changes will impact everyone friend and foe alike. Although at times it may seem or feel like CCP is not paying attention to our woes, they are. Ladies and gentlemen remember everything takes time. The problem with lag and large scale fleet fights is still on-going, but is not ignored. Be patient. At the mean time...CCP...we are waitng.
El'Niaga Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:33:00 - [335] I'd just like to say Welcome to the Drone Regions. There has been no equivalent of a Haven since the Drone Regions came out. Yes they have the highest true sec but they didn't have this to begin with. Also they didn't have the nice officer loots that so many have. And complexes in Drone Regions, any of you actually run them? Needless to say complex in other systems are much more profitable. So anyone that thinks the Drone Regions will make out better than other regions are just being stupid and showing ignorance of game mechanics. In essence this brings most of the other regions down to the same earning capacity of the Drone Regions. Now the question is are you as good as the Russians at using what you have? Only things that remain is rebalancing moon goo (I'd love to see some sort of PI model carried over to the moons for this, something that requires you to be more active to make money...heck doing that maybe insurance on t2 won't be a waste :) ). Second thing is mining needs to be made more profitable. Easy solution is to double the yield on all mining lasers/ships and double the cargohold of those ships. That would bring it up to about the same income level as a missioner/anomaly runner. (This would also make more folks interested in it and probably reduce botting.....folks are mostly against it when they find they can make more money running missions).
Levistus Junior Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:34:00 - [336] Originally by: nano bobcat Originally by: Levistus Junior regions that are getting the biggest buff are the Drone Regions so you crawled under the wrong skirt you say?? :-D Lol. On a personal level I don't really care about this change. I make my isk in high sec by trading and industry. It's just that I feel this change is bad for the game, as it would drive people out of 0.0, make the currently rich people even richer, and the currently not so rich people even poorer, and therefore less likely to be able to challenge the rich for their space.
sonewiv	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:42:00 - [337] I dont think most of you actually understand the drone regions and all us "botters". 1. Contrary to popular belief, most players out here are not bots. 2. These changes are gonna create a large drop in the amount of alloys looted. 3. Less alloys should mean increasing mineral prices which means better money for miners. 4. The drone regions suck, cant make any isk out here!!!! ........lol suckers
Th3bl4ckr4bbit	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:50:00 - [338] Originally by: sonewiv I dont think most of you actually understand the drone regions and all us "botters". 1. Contrary to popular belief, most players out here are not bots. 2. These changes are gonna create a large drop in the amount of alloys looted. 3. Less alloys should mean increasing mineral prices which means better money for miners. 4. The drone regions suck, cant make any isk out here!!!! ........lol suckers Well there are some real playsers but you have more than 50% of bots in this area. Can link you a tons af carriers kill if you want but that's not the place and the thread and drone region is not the only one affected by bots.
Bill Andrex Caldari The Knights Templar R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:50:00 - [339] Edited by: Bill Andrex on 06/04/2011 09:50:25 Originally by: sonewiv 4. The drone regions suck, cant make any isk out here!!!! ........lol suckers Yep, another good reason for people to not bother to move from Empire to 0.0 into ** space. CCP are being gob**es on this issue.
Optimator One	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:55:00 - [340] Yes, high sec is now better than 0.0. I have 4 days left on my accound and my alts .. after that i'll not buy plex-es anymore. I'll let this char expire.

PizzaGuy	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:09:00 - [341] Maybe some of you Idiots up north will start asking your alliances for percentages from all the moons. 200 tech moons times 7b a month = 1.4 trillion a month. Maybe that is why you don't get the cake and eat it too. Fools
El'Niaga Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:11:00 - [342] Originally by: sonewiv I dont think most of you actually understand the drone regions and all us "botters". 1. Contrary to popular belief, most players out here are not bots. 2. These changes are gonna create a large drop in the amount of alloys looted. 3. Less alloys should mean increasing mineral prices which means better money for miners. 4. The drone regions suck, cant make any isk out here!!!! ........lol suckers I do agree with you that contrary to popular belief there are not as many bots in the Drone regions as folks claim. There are far more bots in the North. After all bounty space is ideal for botters as you get your money just by shooting and that means if you safe up you still get your money. I'm not so sure it is going to create a large drop in alloys looted, there will be some impact don't get me wrong but I honestly believe the Drone Regions will be impacted less than other regions (that doesn't mean it will not be impacted). Depends. Less alloys will impact mineral prices for sure. However I'm not certain the impact will be as high as you think. It is much harder to make money in drone regions than other regions but its not impossible. It requires a lot more work than is required in other regions. At the same time if mineral prices rise your income will rise as alloys will be more valuable :). I've lived in Drone Regions before and I've lived in bounty space. Having lived in both I still believe that the Drone regions will be impacted the least game mechanic wise from this. The problem there is that the changes could hurt the ability of some to rent systems, hopefully XIX, SOLAR, etc will change their rent schemes to accommodate the new income levels, but that is a player mechanic not game mechanic.
EveOnline Hold'Em	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:12:00 - [343] Hahah NC is crying and they have the richest moons in the game what a bunch of babies.. You defend the moons and don't even get a share, cry to your alliance leaders
nano bobcat	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:19:00 - [344] Originally by: EveOnline Hold'Em Hahah NC is crying and they have the richest moons in the game what a bunch of babies.. You defend the moons and don't even get a share, cry to your alliance leaders what he said
El'Niaga Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:25:00 - [345] Originally by: nano bobcat Originally by: EveOnline Hold'Em Hahah NC is crying and they have the richest moons in the game what a bunch of babies.. You defend the moons and don't even get a share, cry to your alliance leaders what he said I believe this might force them to share more of it than they do now, that or you will see a decline in NC fleets.
H3R01N4	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:51:00 - [346] WTB Armor/Siege/Skirmish/Information Warfare Mindlink BPO/BPC or on LP store in the future pls! ^^ They are too rare and the price is too high because of that. Ty
Lostspook	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:54:00 - [347] Feck I REALLY hope this fixes the Mac audio drop... If not FECKING FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Xiantu	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:56:00 - [348] Could someone tell me why the BPO BPC ID tags have not been introduced? simple corner tag on bpo will be great. the same as STD faction T1 T2 T3 identifiers.
Mar Lee An Army of None	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:56:00 - [349] Originally by: El'Niaga Second thing is mining needs to be made more profitable. Easy solution is to double the yield on all mining lasers/ships and double the cargohold of those ships. That would bring it up to about the same income level as a missioner/anomaly runner. (This would also make more folks interested in it and probably reduce botting.....folks are mostly against it when they find they can make more money running missions). ITT: people who don't understand supply and demand.
BlackFrog	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:58:00 - [350] Suggestion to CCP: Would be nice if information about the patch progress, and only that, be shown in a separate thread.

nameless1q	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:06:00 - [351] same old, same old. High sec newbs/ Ex 0.0 that couldnt handle it, saying this is all good. CCP saying yeh we are fixing the lag... you can never fix this **ing lag issues when the game runs on fking Python... sloppy lazy **y coding. ......meh meh blah blah, just give up.. ..END
Abon Caldari Pandorum Research Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:09:00 - [352] All you crying nullbears make sure to contract your stuff to me before leaving!
Debbie Does Dallas	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:15:00 - [353] There's only one more thing I want from CCP (apart from all the other things) and that is an alternating/rotating downtime. Australians like myself are heavily handicapped by the current downtime schedule, where I live in Western Australia downtime is 7pm. I get in from work at 5.30pm to 6pm so there's not enough time available to commit to a 2 to 3 hour mission, and after 7.30pm there are other commitments such as family, housework etc. What is the point of paying a monthly subscription for a game you can only play on weekends? Would it really be so difficult for CCP to either move downtime forward one hour a day or have it alternate between noon and midnight (or whatever) every other day? The only alternative to this which would be fair to a whole large nation would be to change billing practices to time spent in the game rather than per month.
combat zerg Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:19:00 - [354] Edited by: combat zerg on 06/04/2011 11:20:30 Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas There's only one more thing I want from CCP (apart from all the other things) and that is an alternating/rotating downtime. Australians like myself are heavily handicapped by the current downtime schedule, where I live in Western Australia downtime is 7pm. I get in from work at 5.30pm to 6pm so there's not enough time available to commit to a 2 to 3 hour mission, and after 7.30pm there are other commitments such as family, housework etc. What is the point of paying a monthly subscription for a game you can only play on weekends? Would it really be so difficult for CCP to either move downtime forward one hour a day or have it alternate between noon and midnight (or whatever) every other day? The only alternative to this which would be fair to a whole large nation would be to change billing practices to time spent in the game rather than per month. sadly thats what u get for playing a european game that has all its servers in europe .... as in my case dt usualy happens in the my frikin lunch break .....
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:28:00 - [355] Originally by: half san I hope CCP will solve problem with PI, in Planet view "Show other characters networks" still not working. Fly safe. Actually it does work. Not sure if it works as it should, but it work. The control centers are visible (barely) when you zoom in. When you click on the center it will show the whole network. I do admit that all the networks I've seen look very very odd. Somehow I have a feeling they are outdated and forgotten. As I don't think anyone forgets the planet...then it has to be some old data. I mean some of those networks look so bonkers that I have no idea what they are trying to do. Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
Azhpol Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:29:00 - [356] Originally by: combat zerg Edited by: combat zerg on 06/04/2011 11:20:30 Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas There's only one more thing I want from CCP (apart from all the other things) and that is an alternating/rotating downtime. Australians like myself are heavily handicapped by the current downtime schedule, where I live in Western Australia downtime is 7pm. I get in from work at 5.30pm to 6pm so there's not enough time available to commit to a 2 to 3 hour mission, and after 7.30pm there are other commitments such as family, housework etc. What is the point of paying a monthly subscription for a game you can only play on weekends? Would it really be so difficult for CCP to either move downtime forward one hour a day or have it alternate between noon and midnight (or whatever) every other day? The only alternative to this which would be fair to a whole large nation would be to change billing practices to time spent in the game rather than per month. sadly thats what u get for playing a european game that has all its servers in europe .... as in my case dt usualy happens in the my frikin lunch break ..... Funny otherside to that, you guys get all the plexes, US TZ rarely find any that aren't already run... Kinda wish I had an enforced break of 20 whole minutes followed by being able to grab the best isk in the game
combat zerg Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:35:00 - [357] Originally by: Azhpol Originally by: combat zerg Edited by: combat zerg on 06/04/2011 11:20:30 Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas There's only one more thing I want from CCP (apart from all the other things) and that is an alternating/rotating downtime. Australians like myself are heavily handicapped by the current downtime schedule, where I live in Western Australia downtime is 7pm. I get in from work at 5.30pm to 6pm so there's not enough time available to commit to a 2 to 3 hour mission, and after 7.30pm there are other commitments such as family, housework etc. What is the point of paying a monthly subscription for a game you can only play on weekends? Would it really be so difficult for CCP to either move downtime forward one hour a day or have it alternate between noon and midnight (or whatever) every other day? The only alternative to this which would be fair to a whole large nation would be to change billing practices to time spent in the game rather than per month. sadly thats what u get for playing a european game that has all its servers in europe .... as in my case dt usualy happens in the my frikin lunch break ..... Funny otherside to that, you guys get all the plexes, US TZ rarely find any that aren't already run... Kinda wish I had an enforced break of 20 whole minutes followed by being able to grab the best isk in the game actualy its the russians that have it nice as ... due to the fact dyt is at about 3pm maybe 4pm so erm yeah they get home from work and can jump straight into aynoms and complexes.
Ploppy McPlop	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:41:00 - [358] So we agree, it's an issue that unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others on a large scale, so why have CCP not done anything about it yet?
combat zerg Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:43:00 - [359] Originally by: Ploppy McPlop So we agree, it's an issue that unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others on a large scale, so why have CCP not done anything about it yet? because its ccp and they live to anoy us?
CPL Madison	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:44:00 - [360] how about fixing the ATI problems? My eve client is so dark I have to turn up brightness and contrast in desktop settings to 75% making my desktop unreadable and my eve browser unreadable! Come on, is there still no fix for this? :(

Azziej Rize Industries.	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:50:00 - [361] perhaps you just need to update your drivers? I have an ATI card and i have no problem like that. The only problem i have is when i have a star (bright light) in my view then it seems to want to give me an epilectic shock as it starts flickering fast until i change my camera angle.
Azhpol Gallente Casa Del Wombat	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:53:00 - [362] Originally by: Ploppy McPlop So we agree, it's an issue that unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others on a large scale, so why have CCP not done anything about it yet? Because downtime is necessary, and will always inconvenience SOMEONE. From a system admin point of view, randomizing it is annoying and can cause issues if the random time hits when there are no lead admins to fix things going wrong(and something goes wrong 10% or so of the time when you reboot a server). From the perspective of running EvE, can you imagine the outcry if a random downtime hit right as a 500man(going for numbers that a reinforced node can support) got together, or worse, it randomly un-reinforced the node? DT is annoying, but isn't gonna change unless they change the code enough to eliminate daily DT once and for all. The level of change is basically a complete re-write of all the core, which needs to happen, but will take many years of man hours to actually accomplish. In other words, maybe after WOT, DUST, and incarna are all out and working smoothly. ----------------------------------------------- Why buffs never fix markets!
CPL Madison	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:54:00 - [363] Originally by: Azziej perhaps you just need to update your drivers? I have an ATI card and i have no problem like that. The only problem i have is when i have a star (bright light) in my view then it seems to want to give me an epilectic shock as it starts flickering fast until i change my camera angle. I have the newest ATI drivers and this is a new card (5670) confirming the same problem on laptop with 54x series and also a spare HD3650 All systems running windows 7 Ive also tried different drivers but no luck :(
CPL Madison	Posted - 2011.04.06 11:57:00 - [364] out of interest, what ATI card, O/S and driver version are you using?
X'IT	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:00:00 - [365] Quote: "An issue with removing the female bra within character creation has been fixed, unfortunately." shrug
Debbie Does Dallas	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:01:00 - [366] Originally by: Azhpol Originally by: Ploppy McPlop So we agree, it's an issue that unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others on a large scale, so why have CCP not done anything about it yet? Because downtime is necessary, and will always inconvenience SOMEONE. From a system admin point of view, randomizing it is annoying and can cause issues if the random time hits when there are no lead admins to fix things going wrong(and something goes wrong 10% or so of the time when you reboot a server). From the perspective of running EvE, can you imagine the outcry if a random downtime hit right as a 500man(going for numbers that a reinforced node can support) got together, or worse, it randomly un-reinforced the node? DT is annoying, but isn't gonna change unless they change the code enough to eliminate daily DT once and for all. The level of change is basically a complete re-write of all the core, which needs to happen, but will take many years of man hours to actually accomplish. In other words, maybe after WOT, DUST, and incarna are all out and working smoothly. Numbnuts, I said nothing about randomising it. Either have it alternate (every other day, it might help to have a basic comprehension of the English language before posting) by 12 hour every other day or have it on a rotational system whereby it moves forwards by an hour every day. Where in my original post did I not make that clear? The word random was never mentioned. Of course I understand that downtime is necessary, I simply suggest that CCP would be best advised to avoid ****ing off a significant user base through a policy adjustment that would be comparatively simple to implement. So it doesn't affect YOU so it's not important? Sheesh. To reiterate, "unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others" is not a policy an MMO operator should endorse.
Azziej Rize Industries.	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:07:00 - [367] Originally by: CPL Madison out of interest, what ATI card, O/S and driver version are you using? I am using a HD4870 X2 on a windows vista 64bit with catalyst version 10.9 I know that 11.3 is out there however i learned years ago that when things are working as they are supposed to, then don't mess with the drivers! :)
CPL Madison	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:09:00 - [368] Originally by: Azziej Originally by: CPL Madison out of interest, what ATI card, O/S and driver version are you using? I am using a HD4870 X2 on a windows vista 64bit with catalyst version 10.9 I know that 11.3 is out there however i learned years ago that when things are working as they are supposed to, then don't mess with the drivers! :) ok thanks, I am running 11.2, i will see if i can downgrade to the version you have and see if that helps :) thx
sirius2u Equilibrium	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:09:00 - [369] beta server WTF, seems to me like EVE is like a sick child, wondering if you ever gonna see it grow old, wish I had known about these issues before I started playing the game, plz dont dictate my play times, keep your updates to a minimum, and let the people play. thanks.
Zulf BesGUowy	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:12:00 - [370] Originally by: Mike deVoid lol at all the nullbears in this thread +1 Best tears, nullsec bears tears

Dureena Nafee1 Amarr art of eve	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:12:00 - [371] Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas Originally by: Azhpol Originally by: Ploppy McPlop So we agree, it's an issue that unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others on a large scale, so why have CCP not done anything about it yet? Because downtime is necessary, and will always inconvenience SOMEONE. From a system admin point of view, randomizing it is annoying and can cause issues if the random time hits when there are no lead admins to fix things going wrong(and something goes wrong 10% or so of the time when you reboot a server). From the perspective of running EvE, can you imagine the outcry if a random downtime hit right as a 500man(going for numbers that a reinforced node can support) got together, or worse, it randomly un-reinforced the node? DT is annoying, but isn't gonna change unless they change the code enough to eliminate daily DT once and for all. The level of change is basically a complete re-write of all the core, which needs to happen, but will take many years of man hours to actually accomplish. In other words, maybe after WOT, DUST, and incarna are all out and working smoothly. Numbnuts, I said nothing about randomising it. Either have it alternate (every other day, it might help to have a basic comprehension of the English language before posting) by 12 hour every other day or have it on a rotational system whereby it moves forwards by an hour every day. Where in my original post did I not make that clear? The word random was never mentioned. Of course I understand that downtime is necessary, I simply suggest that CCP would be best advised to avoid ****ing off a significant user base through a policy adjustment that would be comparatively simple to implement. So it doesn't affect YOU so it's not important? Sheesh. To reiterate, "unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others" is not a policy an MMO operator should endorse. Of course the main question i have is why is it set for DT during the American Night and not the UK/EU night specially as it is based out of Iceland, Dureena - Training to Lose 1 skill at a time.
Renee Morris	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:12:00 - [372] Edited by: Renee Morris on 06/04/2011 12:13:56 @ sirius2u:you should try wow, its right up your alley :)
Judy Firestorm Actault	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:14:00 - [373] Originally by: Dureena Nafee1 Of course the main question i have is why is it set for DT during the American Night and not the UK/EU night specially as it is based out of Iceland, Because its day time there office hours. Do you think they have a full team on 24hrs??
combat zerg Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:15:00 - [374] Originally by: Dureena Nafee1 Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas Originally by: Azhpol Originally by: Ploppy McPlop So we agree, it's an issue that unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others on a large scale, so why have CCP not done anything about it yet? Because downtime is necessary, and will always inconvenience SOMEONE. From a system admin point of view, randomizing it is annoying and can cause issues if the random time hits when there are no lead admins to fix things going wrong(and something goes wrong 10% or so of the time when you reboot a server). From the perspective of running EvE, can you imagine the outcry if a random downtime hit right as a 500man(going for numbers that a reinforced node can support) got together, or worse, it randomly un-reinforced the node? DT is annoying, but isn't gonna change unless they change the code enough to eliminate daily DT once and for all. The level of change is basically a complete re-write of all the core, which needs to happen, but will take many years of man hours to actually accomplish. In other words, maybe after WOT, DUST, and incarna are all out and working smoothly. Numbnuts, I said nothing about randomising it. Either have it alternate (every other day, it might help to have a basic comprehension of the English language before posting) by 12 hour every other day or have it on a rotational system whereby it moves forwards by an hour every day. Where in my original post did I not make that clear? The word random was never mentioned. Of course I understand that downtime is necessary, I simply suggest that CCP would be best advised to avoid ****ing off a significant user base through a policy adjustment that would be comparatively simple to implement. So it doesn't affect YOU so it's not important? Sheesh. To reiterate, "unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others" is not a policy an MMO operator should endorse. Of course the main question i have is why is it set for DT during the American Night and not the UK/EU night specially as it is based out of Iceland, its set for the midle of the day due to the fact that anyone who has played eve for a while will be able to tell u they need to do it at times where more than enuff ppl are at work to fix stuff they may or may not break
Ploppy McPlop	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:16:00 - [375] Originally by: Dureena Nafee1 Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas Originally by: Azhpol Originally by: Ploppy McPlop So we agree, it's an issue that unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others on a large scale, so why have CCP not done anything about it yet? Because downtime is necessary, and will always inconvenience SOMEONE. From a system admin point of view, randomizing it is annoying and can cause issues if the random time hits when there are no lead admins to fix things going wrong(and something goes wrong 10% or so of the time when you reboot a server). From the perspective of running EvE, can you imagine the outcry if a random downtime hit right as a 500man(going for numbers that a reinforced node can support) got together, or worse, it randomly un-reinforced the node? DT is annoying, but isn't gonna change unless they change the code enough to eliminate daily DT once and for all. The level of change is basically a complete re-write of all the core, which needs to happen, but will take many years of man hours to actually accomplish. In other words, maybe after WOT, DUST, and incarna are all out and working smoothly. Numbnuts, I said nothing about randomising it. Either have it alternate (every other day, it might help to have a basic comprehension of the English language before posting) by 12 hour every other day or have it on a rotational system whereby it moves forwards by an hour every day. Where in my original post did I not make that clear? The word random was never mentioned. Of course I understand that downtime is necessary, I simply suggest that CCP would be best advised to avoid ****ing off a significant user base through a policy adjustment that would be comparatively simple to implement. So it doesn't affect YOU so it's not important? Sheesh. To reiterate, "unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others" is not a policy an MMO operator should endorse. Of course the main question i have is why is it set for DT during the American Night and not the UK/EU night specially as it is based out of Iceland, ""unfairly benefits many players and unfairly penalises others" is not a policy an MMO operator should endorse." Sounds about right to me. You lot who don't care about this issue whoud sure change your tune quickly if it applied to you.
CoRp0	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:16:00 - [376] Originally by: Dureena Nafee1 Of course the main question i have is why is it set for DT during the American Night and not the UK/EU night specially as it is based out of Iceland, Day hamsters are cheaper
Azziej Rize Industries.	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:16:00 - [377] Originally by: Dureena Nafee1 Of course the main question i have is why is it set for DT during the American Night and not the UK/EU night specially as it is based out of Iceland, It doesn't matter when DT will commence. You will always have one part of the world ending up in the middle of it. I agree with a shifting downtime. Just have it advance with one hour every day. :)
Bill Rockcrusher	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:17:00 - [378] Will there ever be a day that we dont have to w8 for the frigging annoying downtime ??or do ppl get refunded for downtime after a year ? And why is it even neccesary to have downtime??? to install a patch ?? maybe you guys at ccp should go ask around at other company's how they manage to have servers up and running all year long ?? Anyway i think its F U C K I N G lame and totaly not neccesary in this time with these sophisticated equipment.
Spawn08	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:18:00 - [379] Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. Buy a better computer and internet connection. Fly Safe
Azziej Rize Industries.	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:20:00 - [380] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Will there ever be a day that we dont have to w8 for the frigging annoying downtime ??or do ppl get refunded for downtime after a year ? And why is it even neccesary to have downtime??? to install a patch ?? maybe you guys at ccp should go ask around at other company's how they manage to have servers up and running all year long ?? Anyway i think its F U C K I N G lame and totaly not neccesary in this time with these sophisticated equipment. But any other game does not have that many processes involved. If they do what they do at downtime without having a downtime will cause a complete universe freeze! Unless they get a couple of other servers to do the maths and have those servers input the new data slowly instead of all at once. :)

Debbie Does Dallas	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:20:00 - [381] Originally by: Judy Firestorm Actault Originally by: Dureena Nafee1 Of course the main question i have is why is it set for DT during the American Night and not the UK/EU night specially as it is based out of Iceland, Because its day time there office hours. Do you think they have a full team on 24hrs?? So would it really be so difficult for them to say change it between 1pm daily when they are at work and 2pm every other day when they are still at work? Assuming they knock off for the day at 5pm? Heck, I work for a living and I do 8 hours a day at work, I'm sure they could knock up a schedule. Nobody said anything about being there 24 hours a day.
Tier'dal Kozaks Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:21:00 - [382] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Will there ever be a day that we dont have to w8 for the frigging annoying downtime ??or do ppl get refunded for downtime after a year ? And why is it even neccesary to have downtime??? to install a patch ?? maybe you guys at ccp should go ask around at other company's how they manage to have servers up and running all year long ?? Anyway i think its F U C K I N G lame and totaly not neccesary in this time with these sophisticated equipment. Your a moron. Complete idiot doesnt begin to describe you. I'd recommend WoW for you but seriously i think you need to go back to the Sega or something. Dumbass.
Dureena Nafee1 Amarr art of eve	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:22:00 - [383] Originally by: Arron Wade to be fair, I do like some of these Server-side ship fittings, the mass repackaging, that bookmark thing (don't know what they called it), being able to strip a ship without getting in it and the default squad commander thing. Also nice was the fixing the guristas jamming business... but they are effectively removing anoms from most of 0.0, so that doesn't matter much. CCP had to have known that most residents of 0.0 would be upset as hell about the anom changes, and the fact that they decided to do it anyway- and then ignore the threads about it tells a lot about how much they really care about us out here. But hey! loot logging is enabled by default now so that more than makes up for it... right guys? (Oh wait, it was already that way once everyone hit the little check box they so thoughtfully provided) Well we have already been told by our landlords in Null sec that the prices are staying the same so we have 2 systems costing 2 bil a month (and both now truesec 0.0 meaning no sanctums or havens) where as higher truesec systems are priced way beyond anything else we could afford, so ho hum lets all leave eve and go play riftworld or minecraft.... Dureena - Training to Lose 1 skill at a time.
CoRp0	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:22:00 - [384] Edited by: CoRp0 on 06/04/2011 12:25:20 Edited by: CoRp0 on 06/04/2011 12:24:26 Edited by: CoRp0 on 06/04/2011 12:24:02 Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Will there ever be a day that we dont have to w8 for the frigging annoying downtime ??or do ppl get refunded for downtime after a year ? And why is it even neccesary to have downtime??? to install a patch ?? maybe you guys at ccp should go ask around at other company's how they manage to have servers up and running all year long ?? Anyway i think its F U C K I N G lame and totaly not neccesary in this time with these sophisticated equipment. Eve's Database is several terabytes big DT is needed (for now) for performance / reliability and maintainance tasks (clean up, optimizations ...) Performance degrades after a certain matter of time. Of course, should CCP manage to set DT only one day out of two, and switch days from week to week, would made things better. But, DT time has already been significantly reduced, and their aim is to suppress it completely (read dev blogs a few months ago). In a not so far time ago, DT where lasting one hour !
Debbie Does Dallas	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:25:00 - [385] Incompatible (version) - shakes angry fist Damn you CCP!
CoRp0	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:26:00 - [386] Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas Incompatible (version) - shakes angry fist Damn you CCP! What's the problem ? We are still in the scheduled downtime for now
Catheressia	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:26:00 - [387] Originally by: Xiantu Could someone tell me why the BPO BPC ID tags have not been introduced? simple corner tag on bpo will be great. the same as STD faction T1 T2 T3 identifiers. ^^ What she said
Debbie Does Dallas	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:29:00 - [388] Originally by: CoRp0 Originally by: Debbie Does Dallas Incompatible (version) - shakes angry fist Damn you CCP! What's the problem ? We are still in the scheduled downtime for now /me is impatient. Lolwut, wait, what? The banner graphic at the top of this page says "New and improved EvE Online forums coming soon!". How the hell did CCP manage to develop software to filter out all the herp derp?
Enik3 Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:33:00 - [389] Wow this thread is a veritable feast of nullbear tears. Who knows, it might actually be worth returning to null when all the clowns clear out \o/
Echo Byteme	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:33:00 - [390] nag nag nag. it seems no mather what CCP does there are always a bunch of whiners. verry anoying. CCP take as much time as you need to apply the new patch i love you guys.. @ the whiners.. play secondlife for 6 months then return here and report your findings..

brucewillisthesecond	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:35:00 - [391] Originally by: Echo Byteme nag nag nag. it seems no mather what CCP does there are always a bunch of whiners. verry anoying. CCP take as much time as you need to apply the new patch i love you guys.. @ the whiners.. play secondlife for 6 months then return here and report your findings.. Second life sucks - that is all
Ellie Aroway Disturbed Capsuleers	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:40:00 - [392] Haven't checked the myriad of pages on this thread to see if anyone else has mentioned this, but... Has anyone realised that with these forums being locked off as read only, and the new forums being on Eve Gate, that every time there's a downtime, theres no forums for u all to whine on either :P I forsee the Eve Facebook page spiking in popularity...
Daisy Muktai	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:40:00 - [393] So much for staying on topic.. I wanted the latest news on the upgrade:(
Drake Fyral	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:41:00 - [394] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Will there ever be a day that we dont have to w8 for the frigging annoying downtime ??or do ppl get refunded for downtime after a year ? And why is it even neccesary to have downtime??? to install a patch ?? maybe you guys at ccp should go ask around at other company's how they manage to have servers up and running all year long ?? Anyway i think its F U C K I N G lame and totaly not neccesary in this time with these sophisticated equipment. Okay, that sounds like a great idea, lets go ask them. "hey blizzard, how do you manage to keep your servers running" "well ccp, its quite simple, we simply have a weekly downtime" "oh, thats interesting, you only do it once a week. well you must have alot of people working on it to get it done in 20-30 minutes" "don't make me laugh, we take it down every sunday for 8 hours" "8 hours? but wait, our are only down for 30 minutes on average 7 days a week, thats only 3 and a half hours total. you guys must have a better deployment rate for updates and patches though right?" "Erm... well not really, whenever there is a patch it can take more than 12 hours" "really? only once though right?" "nope sometimes we need to take them down for extended periods days in a row" "well damn. that sure must suck for your players." "yeah, but we've invented internet crack so they don't care"
fo0kaMiimi	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:41:00 - [395] Will the new patch fix the connectivity issues associated with 1.3? Alot of people don't have this problem, but also alot do. I have fastest connection you can get in Australia, everything else works without issues except EVE... Hope it gets fixed. Can't even be logged on for 5 mins without losing conn.
Bill Rockcrusher	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:42:00 - [396] Eve's Database is several terabytes big DT is needed (for now) for performance / reliability and maintainance tasks (clean up, optimizations ...) Performance degrades after a certain matter of time. Of course, should CCP manage to set DT only one day out of two, and switch days from week to week, would made things better. But, DT time has already been significantly reduced, and their aim is to suppress it completely (read dev blogs a few months ago). In a not so far time ago, DT where lasting one hour ! DT is totally not neccesary in this time ccp just needs to sort there stuff better then what it is now. why do practicly ALL other online games dont have daily DT???? are they just better or is eve more complicated then which game in the world ???
Kittens Bumholes	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:44:00 - [397] Originally by: fo0kaMiimi Will the new patch fix the connectivity issues associated with 1.3? Alot of people don't have this problem, but also alot do. I have fastest connection you can get in Australia, everything else works without issues except EVE... Hope it gets fixed. Can't even be logged on for 5 mins without losing conn. The fastest connection you can get in Australia? Sign me up! How much is your monthly rate? etc etc.
Vaako Borealis	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:44:00 - [398] Hmm, intersting to see so meny complaints... I am a pure casual pve'er, as such I never venture into 0.4 or lower because I really dont like pvp ( or the chance for it ) This in turn disallows me the chance to ever try a carrier or even lvl 5 missions... That to me is a massive issue... "nurfs" to 0.0... GOOD!! KEEP EM COMING!!
fo0kaMiimi	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:45:00 - [399] Optus Cable zoom zoom!
MrBlixx	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:47:00 - [400] I find the the really sad thing here is the loss of anomalies in null sec , many people use those anomalies to fund there ships and such its a bad nerf and i think it was done to cause mass exodus of null sec for renter corps/alliances since many of these people use sanctums and havens to make and or suppliment there wealth.

Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:49:00 - [401] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Eve's Database is several terabytes big DT is needed (for now) for performance / reliability and maintainance tasks (clean up, optimizations ...) Performance degrades after a certain matter of time. Of course, should CCP manage to set DT only one day out of two, and switch days from week to week, would made things better. But, DT time has already been significantly reduced, and their aim is to suppress it completely (read dev blogs a few months ago). In a not so far time ago, DT where lasting one hour ! DT is totally not neccesary in this time ccp just needs to sort there stuff better then what it is now. why do practicly ALL other online games dont have daily DT???? are they just better or is eve more complicated then which game in the world ??? Bill I highly doubt your peanut size brain can fathom the complexity of coding something like eve. Name another game with single server universe and this much populace that functions better than eve. WoW has tons of servers and such... they also have a ground... and a sky... eve is a 3d game..... adds layers of additional contraints and **** just to accomplish the simplest things.
Traith Norvelas Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:50:00 - [402] Originally by: Vaako Borealis Hmm, intersting to see so meny complaints... I am a pure casual pve'er, as such I never venture into 0.4 or lower because I really dont like pvp ( or the chance for it ) This in turn disallows me the chance to ever try a carrier or even lvl 5 missions... That to me is a massive issue... "nurfs" to 0.0... GOOD!! KEEP EM COMING!! Yes, let's defer to the Carebears that have never left their Concord enforced plastic bubble as to what is best for 0.0.... Way to be short-sighted Vaako.
Lodi135	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:51:00 - [403] Originally by: fo0kaMiimi Optus Cable zoom zoom! Boo optus, they tried to charge me for a phone plan that i didn't sign for and they didn't connect took 3 months to sort out.
fo0kaMiimi	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:52:00 - [404] LOL Low sec? I can't even clear an asteroid belt anymore, because since those last bunch of updates about a month ago, I lose con as soon as Isancha warp in, or when I open up a window.
Bill Rockcrusher	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:54:00 - [405] I cant care about ccp and having 1 server for all stuff i just care in playing the f...ing game i pay for. i dont care about all the layers i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about eve-fanboys saying all other games are crap and eve is the best i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about offensive A S S holes who dont like what other ppl say i just wanna play the game i pay for. so thank you thank you and **** u all
Zenislav Cervar Caldari Bureau of Interstellar Exploration	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:55:00 - [406] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Eve's Database is several terabytes big DT is needed (for now) for performance / reliability and maintainance tasks (clean up, optimizations ...) Performance degrades after a certain matter of time. Of course, should CCP manage to set DT only one day out of two, and switch days from week to week, would made things better. But, DT time has already been significantly reduced, and their aim is to suppress it completely (read dev blogs a few months ago). In a not so far time ago, DT where lasting one hour ! DT is totally not neccesary in this time ccp just needs to sort there stuff better then what it is now. why do practicly ALL other online games dont have daily DT???? are they just better or is eve more complicated then which game in the world ??? Pick one of this 3 things: - Your dam troll - You never played any other MMO - You are complete dumbass No there are no other options to choose from sorry. Your just 1 of those. And btw il pick WoW as that crap is most known. Their servers have restarts of 10 - 20 and sometimes a bit more minutes each day at like 5 am or so. They have weekly maintance that take for hours and lets not even talk when they put medium to major patch on live servers...
fo0kaMiimi	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:56:00 - [407] Maintinance is at 8PM-9PM here so peak hour gaming time, AND its so laggy before and after.
Vaako Borealis	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:57:00 - [408] Namecalling and short-sighted for speaking my mind.. Fair is fair, you say YAY! when you get what you want why should I not be allowed to be happy when I get something I want :D
Kittens Bumholes	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:57:00 - [409] Originally by: Traith Norvelas Originally by: Vaako Borealis Hmm, intersting to see so meny complaints... I am a pure casual pve'er, as such I never venture into 0.4 or lower because I really dont like pvp ( or the chance for it ) This in turn disallows me the chance to ever try a carrier or even lvl 5 missions... That to me is a massive issue... "nurfs" to 0.0... GOOD!! KEEP EM COMING!! Yes, let's defer to the Carebears that have never left their Concord enforced plastic bubble as to what is best for 0.0.... Way to be short-sighted Vaako. y u mad bro?
sirius2u Equilibrium	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:58:00 - [410] I have seen some suck-ups in my days but the amount of suck-up trolls represented here are more than usual, yes we know you guys have played this game for years and therefore think you're a better man, yes we know you havent seen the daylight in your moms cellar for some time which made you forget your manners, but how about you people STFU and let the people that have issues have their say...in the mean time you can log back in to your old WOW or secondlife account and tell people there how cool Eve is.

Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 12:59:00 - [411] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher DT is totally not neccesary in this time ccp just needs to sort there stuff better then what it is now. why do practicly ALL other online games dont have daily DT???? are they just better or is eve more complicated then which game in the world ??? If you "dont care dont care dont care" ::continues tempertantrum::.... Then why did you ask above question? no one made you open you tightly guarded wallet. that if you cant play a game for less than a day outta the month cause of the dreaded downtime, maybe stick with face book games. maybe thats why the game is 14.95 a month rather than 15... they already refuneded you .05 for the down time.
Tekka Caldari Sneaky Beaver	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:00:00 - [412] Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth; Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim Because it was grassy and wanted wear, Though as for that the passing there Had worn them really about the same, And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black. Oh, I marked the first for another day! Yet knowing how way leads on to way I doubted if I should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. The Road Not Taken - Robert Frost »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Bill Rockcrusher	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:00:00 - [413] Originally by: sirius2u Equilibrium I have seen some suck-ups in my days but the amount of suck-up trolls represented here are more than usual, yes we know you guys have played this game for years and therefore think you're a better man, yes we know you havent seen the daylight in your moms cellar for some time which made you forget your manners, but how about you people STFU and let the people that have issues have their say...in the mean time you can log back in to your old WOW or secondlife account and tell people there how cool Eve is. SO TRUE lol whahaha EVE-FANBOYS FTL EPIC FAIL
fo0kaMiimi	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:00:00 - [414] awesome! server is back up!
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:03:00 - [415] Long DT. To make time flow a bit shorter (I had my daily 1 hour nap already, thank you CCP, do not need more of sleep.) I give my 5 cents on this lovely update I am looking forward to. With small concern of course what that "stream lining of annoying Gurista rats" means really. A permanent jamming? The only true God in Trinity forbids! Now lets talk why plex price going drop from 350m to 330m instead of 300m as it should be and the villains, who did it. The 1 year ago they (the CCP) decided to add the luxurious sanctums (every rat with 1.2m bounty? Common! How long it takes to rat 1 bln?) for enjoyment of all nullsec carebears boting already relentlessly on these arkanor ores while in sleep. Now we know the population of nullsec to our in highsec is like 1 to 10. We know they lose ships more often then 1 per year too. We know they DO NOT MANUFACTURE. However they, in they low numbers and huge ship loses, still managed to flood EVE with 10% isk inflation. Leading economic scientists in community already crying loud for slashing ALL the bounties!!! on our dear rats. Specially dear in our "safeish" (yes, grievers do not smile so abusively now) lv4s far away from these SAFE hamsters of isks in nullsec. I say nerf sanctums now, think later. Much much later. I want the plex back to 300m. How could anyone afford 6 accounts on lv4s in highsec now? Just can't. So kill sanctums! Force the nullbears to make the minerals cheap again! Reverse of flow of these 4500mm railguns now! -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Kittens Bumholes	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:03:00 - [416] Originally by: Tekka Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth; Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim Because it was grassy and wanted wear, Though as for that the passing there Had worn them really about the same, And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black. Oh, I marked the first for another day! Yet knowing how way leads on to way I doubted if I should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. The Road Not Taken - Robert Frost There was a young man from Nantucket Who kept his dead gran in a bucket One day in the Gym He went for a swim And something gross and vulgar. - True story Bro
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:03:00 - [417] ::pause in forum responses as everyone is spamming their eve client to see if it really is::
Rockin RicciBobbi	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:03:00 - [418] Originally by: Enik3 Wow this thread is a veritable feast of nullbear tears. Who knows, it might actually be worth returning to null when all the clowns clear out \o/ Coming from a guy whose corp specializes in wardeccing highsec carebears and whose pvp expertise is n00bganking that is too funny. Highsec has 100x the clowns and you guys are the clown kings. Clown on, brother-nullsec is laughing at you.
Tier'dal Kozaks Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:06:00 - [419] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher I cant care about ccp and having 1 server for all stuff i just care in playing the f...ing game i pay for. i dont care about all the layers i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about eve-fanboys saying all other games are crap and eve is the best i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about offensive A S S holes who dont like what other ppl say i just wanna play the game i pay for. so thank you thank you and **** u all Once again....your a moron. what are you 14?? YOU dont pay for the game your parents do. so stop acting like its some big high-to-do because science and computers way outfunction your brain. you remind me of that german kid on the net destroying his keyboard bec he couldnt play unreal tourney. anyone have that vid handy?? its past your bedtime BILL (which is prob your dads name cause your to scared to post on the net) GO TO BED.
fo0kaMiimi	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:08:00 - [420] LOL Nayl. too right all the little 16yo keyboard warriors got all excited hA!

Kittens Bumholes	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:08:00 - [421] Originally by: Nayl Mkoll ::pause in forum responses as everyone is spamming their eve client to see if it really is:: Hey, not only is the client back online now but everyone has been given 3,000,000 free skillpoints!
Fredy Frenly	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:08:00 - [422] OO way is EVE players so god d**** winny, we play a allrunde dam god game (And yes its a game, not RL) Remeber we are ca 40 000 online during a day ore more. on 1 server, many diffrent games hawing plenty and MANY servers, butt stil lags. Point is CCP are creating a dame nice game, I realy like this way eve headig, and I undersands that CCP can't pleas MY ideas, ( I realy Realy REALY whant the tec 5 drake only fore my butt only) Ewerybady can't geet a spesely made eve for them selfe. -That game is called Sims- And yea I knowe my englis spelling sukcs, dont need to tell me abutet that. Flye safe
MaxxOmega Caldari Temporal Mechanics	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:09:00 - [423] Originally by: Tier'dal Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Will there ever be a day that we dont have to w8 for the frigging annoying downtime ??or do ppl get refunded for downtime after a year ? And why is it even neccesary to have downtime??? to install a patch ?? maybe you guys at ccp should go ask around at other company's how they manage to have servers up and running all year long ?? Anyway i think its F U C K I N G lame and totaly not neccesary in this time with these sophisticated equipment. Your a moron. Complete idiot doesnt begin to describe you. I'd recommend WoW for you but seriously i think you need to go back to the Sega or something. Dumbass. LOL, I was thinking the exact same thing. Except maybe he should go back to Coleco Vision. He sounds like a real technical wizard...
fo0kaMiimi	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:11:00 - [424] why are you noobs arguing? your not getting anywhere. you have no life.
Kittens Bumholes	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:12:00 - [425] Originally by: fo0kaMiimi why are you noobs arguing? your not getting anywhere. you have no life. How can dead people post entries on an internet forum? All they care about are braaaiinnnzzzzz and not internet spaceships.
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:12:00 - [426] ddurr... deeeze here compputars shod be ablez to play eve for me while i play eve while they update the server by themselves.... all while ccp is on vacation.. cause we has so much sophistocated thinggies these days ~Nayl Mkoll, imperonating bill
Dmitri Dargon	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:13:00 - [427] am down for this patch but i dont see it having the effects you guys want smaller alliances in null...... not gunna happen so long as there is still tec moons in those "wastelands"
GEORGE DIRT	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:13:00 - [428] yo, just wanted to express my gratitude to ccp for making the best mmo on the net:) hope to be playing for years to come..cant wait for the new patch... looks great!!! GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:13:00 - [429] Originally by: fo0kaMiimi Will the new patch fix the connectivity issues associated with 1.3? Alot of people don't have this problem, but also alot do. I have fastest connection you can get in Australia, everything else works without issues except EVE... Hope it gets fixed. Can't even be logged on for 5 mins without losing conn. Oh poor Aussies. My heart breaks for your sad fate. Do not forget to mention these inhuman limits on amount of downloaded and uploaded data too btw. You are being blindly robed there by isps. When you finally learn that capitalism and capitalism DO DIFFER, before you share fate of Bolivia or other socialist hell hole. Stop electing liberals time after time. Do elect some neomercantile in the end! He will fix you hightech like in Japan with 100mb/s or 1tb/s Internet everywhere, robots everywhere, high paycheck everymonth each, and then you can return electing thieves, liberals and other criminals in your penal colony to government again. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Sephiroh	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:14:00 - [430] WOW! This is alot of tears from nullsec! For years, upgrade, upgrade, upgrade and now nerf and then they open their mouths! Fanboys shouldnt be allowed to post (sorry meant troll) the forums...

onyx edain	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:14:00 - [431] Originally by: Nayl Mkoll ddurr... deeeze here compputars shod be ablez to play eve for me while i play eve while they update the server by themselves.... all while ccp is on vacation.. cause we has so much sophistocated thinggies these days ~Nayl Mkoll, imperonating bill thought that was my redneck cousin bob for a min but lawl and agree with your post lmao.
Kittens Bumholes	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:15:00 - [432] Originally by: TLWE Originally by: fo0kaMiimi Will the new patch fix the connectivity issues associated with 1.3? Alot of people don't have this problem, but also alot do. I have fastest connection you can get in Australia, everything else works without issues except EVE... Hope it gets fixed. Can't even be logged on for 5 mins without losing conn. Oh poor Aussies. My heart breaks for your sad fate. Do not forget to mention these inhuman limits on amount of downloaded and uploaded data too btw. You are being blindly robed there by isps. When you finally learn that capitalism and capitalism DO DIFFER, before you share fate of Bolivia or other socialist hell hole. Stop electing liberals time after time. Do elect some neomercantile in the end! He will fix you hightech like in Japan with 100mb/s or 1tb/s Internet everywhere, robots everywhere, high paycheck everymonth each, and then you can return electing thieves, liberals and other criminals in your penal colony to government again. Stupid troll is stupid (and/or fascist).
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:16:00 - [433] ahhh downtime... favorite time to catch up on my favorite internet soap oprea..."As the Eve forums troll...."
Bill Rockcrusher	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:17:00 - [434] Originally by: Tier'dal Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher I cant care about ccp and having 1 server for all stuff i just care in playing the f...ing game i pay for. i dont care about all the layers i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about eve-fanboys saying all other games are crap and eve is the best i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about offensive A S S holes who dont like what other ppl say i just wanna play the game i pay for. so thank you thank you and **** u all Once again....your a moron. what are you 14?? YOU dont pay for the game your parents do. so stop acting like its some big high-to-do because science and computers way outfunction your brain. you remind me of that german kid on the net destroying his keyboard bec he couldnt play unreal tourney. anyone have that vid handy?? its past your bedtime BILL (which is prob your dads name cause your to scared to post on the net) GO TO BED. hahaah eve fanboy is there absolutly nothing better u can do the calling ppl names ?? and im not `14 etc but hey who cares what u or i think. FANBOYS FTL
Debbie Does Dallas	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:18:00 - [435] Originally by: Kittens Bumholes Originally by: Nayl Mkoll ::pause in forum responses as everyone is spamming their eve client to see if it really is:: Hey, not only is the client back online now but everyone has been given 3,000,000 free skillpoints! w00t! I just got 9 million free skillpoints! Aussies, petition your GM about the downtime!
Arlize Semah	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:18:00 - [436] is the server back online? i dont see the automatic undate patch button?
Abon Caldari Pandorum Research Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:20:00 - [437] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Will there ever be a day that we dont have to w8 for the frigging annoying downtime ??or do ppl get refunded for downtime after a year ? And why is it even neccesary to have downtime??? to install a patch ?? maybe you guys at ccp should go ask around at other company's how they manage to have servers up and running all year long ?? Anyway i think its lame and totaly not neccesary in this time with these sophisticated equipment. Offensive language removed. Navigator. Please try to get some education. I am serious, especially about stuff you don`t have the slightest clue about. I would be extremely ashamed in your place.
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:21:00 - [438] Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Originally by: Tier'dal Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher I cant care about ccp and having 1 server for all stuff i just care in playing the f...ing game i pay for. i dont care about all the layers i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about eve-fanboys saying all other games are crap and eve is the best i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about offensive A S S holes who dont like what other ppl say i just wanna play the game i pay for. so thank you thank you and **** u all Once again....your a moron. what are you 14?? YOU dont pay for the game your parents do. so stop acting like its some big high-to-do because science and computers way outfunction your brain. you remind me of that german kid on the net destroying his keyboard bec he couldnt play unreal tourney. anyone have that vid handy?? its past your bedtime BILL (which is prob your dads name cause your to scared to post on the net) GO TO BED. hahaah eve fanboy is there absolutly nothing better u can do the calling ppl names ?? and im not `14 etc but hey who cares what u or i think. FANBOYS FTL "...shhh be very quiet... see the troll can only see you when you post online..... but we see it now in its natural habitat. watch as it makes fun of some one for name calling while it has done nothing but name call since its first post.... see its frumpy posture and furrowed brow as it trys to think up something witty but can only think of putting in stupid smilies cause nothing makes one look more inteligent than 30 of these:.
Last Idaho	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:22:00 - [439] Originally by: Khamal Jolstien Remove the 0.0 change and its a good patch. Otherwise, enjoy the sudden drop in subs. I had a wish... to have a whole new universe introduced in EVE. Serious, space with only one galaxy is way too less space for all of us. But I think less players will do just fine too.
Ploppy McPlop	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:24:00 - [440] Edited by: Ploppy McPlop on 06/04/2011 13:25:55 So how many patches do you think it will take to patch the patches to the patch of the patch? /me looks forward to extended downtime Thursday, and what comes after Thursday, it's Friday, which seat should I sit in?

MadnessInAPill	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:26:00 - [441] Ok so basicly this topic is: a) guys from null who don't like the anomaly nerf (understandable), to lighten the mood i can ay that flying hubs with a tengu has an income not much lower than from sanctums (time/isk) b) hisecwiseasses who forgot how they whined when ccp made a nerf of the loot from missions and start sending them to less crouded systems (often low sec) c) ppl who have a normal brain and think about how to deal with the problem since they cannot avoid it For me nothing changes, ppl won't go in mass to null, some will go in mass to hi. Law of nature, some will adapt, some will not (those don't last long). I raelly don't understand all the emotions with this subject, this is only a game.
Miss Desireless	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:27:00 - [442] i ve downloaded the patch 1.4, and using this downtime for a toenails cutting session
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:27:00 - [443] Originally by: Kittens Bumholes Originally by: TLWE Originally by: fo0kaMiimi Will the new patch fix the connectivity issues associated with 1.3? Alot of people don't have this problem, but also alot do. I have fastest connection you can get in Australia, everything else works without issues except EVE... Hope it gets fixed. Can't even be logged on for 5 mins without losing conn. Oh poor Aussies. My heart breaks for your sad fate. Do not forget to mention these inhuman limits on amount of downloaded and uploaded data too btw. You are being blindly robed there by isps. When you finally learn that capitalism and capitalism DO DIFFER, before you share fate of Bolivia or other socialist hell hole. Stop electing liberals time after time. Do elect some neomercantile in the end! He will fix you hightech like in Japan with 100mb/s or 1tb/s Internet everywhere, robots everywhere, high paycheck everymonth each, and then you can return electing thieves, liberals and other criminals in your penal colony to government again. Stupid troll is stupid (and/or fascist). Stupid is who stupid does. - Forest Gump, Forest Gump? Who is more stupid? The stupid or those who follow the stupid? - Starwars IV, Master Obi One Kenobi? Now dear Troll name me one liberal or socialist country matching lovely neomercantile Japan. I dare you! :) There! There! There! You see the flame! You see the emotions! You see the passion! You see of total lack of argument or logic! Eh... Still... 1.5 hour left 'till the dt is over. Mhm... Time to watch that flame burning, drink some hot coffee. Throw some wood into fire from time to time, when trolls get a bit too tired in their the only right perpetual mobile. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:28:00 - [444] Chill out foks. All updates are free sofar. so why complain. Let CCP do there work and enjoi the good wether outside. at least in Holland :P If you don't have good wether give the wife, girl or friends some attention while it last. Life continu in about 1.5 hours with some luck. ...... sry need to go afk again to play with my doggies. the sun is shining here :) o/ Dako
Tenaj Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:28:00 - [445] Edited by: Tenaj on 06/04/2011 13:28:05 Originally by: Fredy Frenly OO way is EVE players so god d** winny, we play a allrunde dam god game (And yes its a game, not RL) Remeber we are ca 40 000 online during a day ore more. on 1 server, many diffrent games hawing plenty and MANY servers, butt stil lags. Point is CCP are creating a dame nice game, I realy like this way eve headig, and I undersands that CCP can't pleas MY ideas, ( I realy Realy REALY whant the tec 5 drake only fore my butt only) Ewerybady can't geet a spesely made eve for them selfe. -That game is called Sims- And yea I knowe my englis spelling sukcs, dont need to tell me abutet that. Flye safe WTF did you just say? Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the criminal community since 2003**
Ploppy McPlop	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:31:00 - [446] Edited by: Ploppy McPlop on 06/04/2011 13:31:32 Originally by: Dako Semi Chill out foks. All updates are free sofar. so why complain. Let CCP do there work and enjoi the good wether outside. at least in Holland :P If you don't have good wether give the wife, girl or friends some attention while it last. Life continu in about 1.5 hours with some luck. ...... sry need to go afk again to play with my doggies. the sun is shining here :) o/ Dako At last someone here with some priorities. I love the dutch :) /me spent many happy hours in Amsterdam before moving to Australia edit /me is NOT implying they are all pot-heads
AllonJita	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:34:00 - [447] Edited by: AllonJita on 06/04/2011 13:35:31 if it's going to be one sistem per region with packloads of ratters, and lots of afk reds, then is -1 account for me, i will just move the character from my second, to my main account and stop ratting.. and i don't even have to play the game montly right? What the hell, if i don't have the cash or isk to buy an etc , i will just stop playing for a month or 2; -i mean who cares? There is other games i can play for a while. You will say, what the hell you don't have 15 euros? -maybe i don't, eve is not my only bill to pay Sometimes i prefered to use isk .. Anyway, happy walking in stations people, i might take a break for a while if this turns out bad, as usual!
Ploppy McPlop	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:36:00 - [448] Edited by: Ploppy McPlop on 06/04/2011 13:36:11 Originally by: AllonJita if it's going to be one sistem per region with packloads of ratters, and lots of afk reds, then is -1 account for me, i will just move the character from my second, to my main account and stop ratting.. and i don't even have to play the game montly right? What the hell, if i don't have the cash or isk to buy an etc , i will just stop playing for a month or 2; -i mean who cares? There is other games i can play for a while. You will say, what the hell you don't have 14 euros? -maybe i don't, eve is not my only bill to pay Sometimes i prefered to use isk .. Anyway, happy walking in stations people, i might take a break for a while if this turns out bad, as usual! You'll be back, nobody can stay away for long, heck I was away for a year before I caught a glimpse of an update on an unrelated site and before long I was back baby, like a baby on smack. See ya soon!
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:39:00 - [449] Edited by: OldWolf69 on 06/04/2011 13:41:41 Edited by: OldWolf69 on 06/04/2011 13:41:12 New patch somewhere? Or will 15 Eve time be again a epic fail, and that's why we did not get a patch yet? ....and yes, now, 20 minutes before official start i'm quite shure this will be just another fail.
Tier'dal Kozaks Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:43:00 - [450] Originally by: Nayl Mkoll Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher Originally by: Tier'dal Originally by: Bill Rockcrusher I cant care about ccp and having 1 server for all stuff i just care in playing the f...ing game i pay for. i dont care about all the layers i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about eve-fanboys saying all other games are crap and eve is the best i just wanna play the game i pay for. i dont care about offensive A S S holes who dont like what other ppl say i just wanna play the game i pay for. so thank you thank you and **** u all Once again....your a moron. what are you 14?? YOU dont pay for the game your parents do. so stop acting like its some big high-to-do because science and computers way outfunction your brain. you remind me of that german kid on the net destroying his keyboard bec he couldnt play unreal tourney. anyone have that vid handy?? its past your bedtime BILL (which is prob your dads name cause your to scared to post on the net) GO TO BED. hahaah eve fanboy is there absolutly nothing better u can do the calling ppl names ?? and im not `14 etc but hey who cares what u or i think. FANBOYS FTL "...shhh be very quiet... see the troll can only see you when you post online..... but we see it now in its natural habitat. watch as it makes fun of some one for name calling while it has done nothing but name call since its first post.... see its frumpy posture and furrowed brow as it trys to think up something witty but can only think of putting in stupid smilies cause nothing makes one look more inteligent than 30 of these:. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yONAlBpnn-Q there you go BILL enjoy :)

FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:44:00 - [451] i think you need to edit it once more..... Originally by: OldWolf69 Edited by: OldWolf69 on 06/04/2011 13:41:41 Edited by: OldWolf69 on 06/04/2011 13:41:12 New patch somewhere? Or will 15 Eve time be again a epic fail, and that's why we did not get a patch yet? ....and yes, now, 20 minutes before official start i'm quite shure this will be just another fail.
Ptakk	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:45:00 - [452] Originally by: Last Idaho Originally by: Khamal Jolstien Remove the 0.0 change and its a good patch. Otherwise, enjoy the sudden drop in subs. I had a wish... to have a whole new universe introduced in EVE. Serious, space with only one galaxy is way too less space for all of us. But I think less players will do just fine too. Less players might be a good idea as then I might be able to get into 0.4 sec space without getting my arse handed to me
Max Milton	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:45:00 - [453] Originally by: OldWolf69 Edited by: OldWolf69 on 06/04/2011 13:41:41 Edited by: OldWolf69 on 06/04/2011 13:41:12 New patch somewhere? Or will 15 Eve time be again a epic fail, and that's why we did not get a patch yet? ....and yes, now, 20 minutes before official start i'm quite shure this will be just another fail. Downtime newspost talks about 15:00 UTC. Thats not 20 minutes but 80 minutes.
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:45:00 - [454] Originally by: Ploppy McPlop Originally by: AllonJita Anyway, happy walking in stations people, i might take a break for a while if this turns out bad, as usual! You'll be back, nobody can stay away for long, heck I was away for a year before I caught a glimpse of an update on an unrelated site and before long I was back baby, like a baby on smack. See ya soon! There be such day we will walk in station, COMING SOON TM@CCP, then day when we take ferry to planet and walk on planet. This game will be the best scifi space opera mmorpg ever. There will be so many skills that one life time will not be enough to play it in full on one account. Trust me. I've seen the future. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Roccus Caldari Uniphyte	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:46:00 - [455] Ye people complain to much.. maybe its becouse they are to spoiled themselves? Maybe if they would try to set up such server like trinq that they would think a little different! But i guess its the lesser wining little brags that spoils the attitude for the whole group again... I am playing since '07 and i like the way ccp is IMPROVING eve in a good way. They even dont ask money for these expansions, they are not raising monthly pay for all the new hardware they installed.. hell they also give you a posibility to play it for free with plex! With all this no other space game can compare itselve with eve. And if i may say eve is one of a kind, so be glad you may play it and complain a little less... THINK before complaining people, that helps alot. _____________________________________________________________ Peace is not made for humans... like woman are made for men!
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:50:00 - [456] Originally by: Max Milton Originally by: OldWolf69 Edited by: OldWolf69 on 06/04/2011 13:41:41 Edited by: OldWolf69 on 06/04/2011 13:41:12 New patch somewhere? Or will 15 Eve time be again a epic fail, and that's why we did not get a patch yet? ....and yes, now, 20 minutes before official start i'm quite shure this will be just another fail. Downtime newspost talks about 15:00 UTC. Thats not 20 minutes but 80 minutes. You're right, sorry, my mistake. But still hope that it will be not again a start fail.
Vhal Vhindiscar	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:51:00 - [457] Remove null sec nerf. Remove greyscale. Find dev's who understand how and why people who live in 0.0. Make a better game. Didn't we elect a 0.0 dominated CSM just to help stop these types of short sighted and misguided 0.0 'fixes?' No confidence in greyscale. No confidence in 'Team we don't even play this game.' No confidence in ccp.
Amy Cohen	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:52:00 - [458] Originally by: TLWE Originally by: Kittens Bumholes Originally by: TLWE Originally by: fo0kaMiimi Will the new patch fix the connectivity issues associated with 1.3? Alot of people don't have this problem, but also alot do. I have fastest connection you can get in Australia, everything else works without issues except EVE... Hope it gets fixed. Can't even be logged on for 5 mins without losing conn. Oh poor Aussies. My heart breaks for your sad fate. Do not forget to mention these inhuman limits on amount of downloaded and uploaded data too btw. You are being blindly robed there by isps. When you finally learn that capitalism and capitalism DO DIFFER, before you share fate of Bolivia or other socialist hell hole. Stop electing liberals time after time. Do elect some neomercantile in the end! He will fix you hightech like in Japan with 100mb/s or 1tb/s Internet everywhere, robots everywhere, high paycheck everymonth each, and then you can return electing thieves, liberals and other criminals in your penal colony to government again. Stupid troll is stupid (and/or fascist). Stupid is who stupid does. - Forest Gump, Forest Gump? Who is more stupid? The stupid or those who follow the stupid? - Starwars IV, Master Obi One Kenobi? Now dear Troll name me one liberal or socialist country matching lovely neomercantile Japan. I dare you! :) There! There! There! You see the flame! You see the emotions! You see the passion! You see of total lack of argument or logic! Eh... Still... 1.5 hour left 'till the dt is over. Mhm... Time to watch that flame burning, drink some hot coffee. Throw some wood into fire from time to time, when trolls get a bit too tired in their the only right perpetual mobile.
Eve Alabell	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:54:00 - [459] Edited by: Eve Alabell on 06/04/2011 13:54:41 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=211 ^^
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 13:56:00 - [460] CCP is doing a fine job and eve is great ! I wanted to put my cry babby carebare post in with all the others I've read lol. I would like to see 1.0 to .1 space as PVP OPTIONAL that way I can carebear up all of impire LOL ... Mighty carebear out

ShaKeeRa Djini	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:01:00 - [461] I give them 2 more ours at least! So go back to sleep people!
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:01:00 - [462] Wow. So people are paying for multiple accounts via ISK making in nullsec? Then they wonder why that enormous source of income has been nerfed? /facepalm Seriously. Nullsec is ridiculously profitable as is, I doubt this 'nerf' is going to have half the impact people are worried about in any case. This is exactly the kind of behavior one would see in WoW forums after a patch, and it's fairly saddening. People blowing things way out of proportion and threatening to ragequit (Of which a very small percent do, and most of those come back in a month or two anyway) It's CCP's game, they can do whatever they please with it. Nobody is forcing you to pay a subscription fee. Now all they need to do is nerf highsec Lvl 4 missions and we'll be sitting pretty... (I don't think anyone can claim that current ISK from lvl 4's isn't completely ridiculous) I think nullsec players have just been so used to receiving fantastic prizes that they're ****ed CCP is taking a small slice of the ubercake they've been granted.
Ptakk	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:01:00 - [463] Originally by: Jon Sinmarr Edited by: Jon Sinmarr on 06/04/2011 13:57:51 CCP is doing a fine job and eve is great ! I wanted to put my cry babby carebear post in with all the others I've read lol. I would like to see 1.0 to .1 space as PVP OPTIONAL that way I can carebear up all of impire LOL ... Mighty carebear out I hear ya bro and optional pvp thing would be awesome. I would finally get to see the part of the game I am missing. No I dont want to join no stoopid corp before anyone says anything. I guess its not ccp's thing. I live in hope.... Flame away fanboys...
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:02:00 - [464] Originally by: Vhal Vhindiscar Remove null sec nerf. Remove greyscale. Find dev's who understand how and why people who live in 0.0. Make a better game. Didn't we elect a 0.0 dominated CSM just to help stop these types of short sighted and misguided 0.0 'fixes?' No confidence in greyscale. No confidence in 'Team we don't even play this game.' No confidence in ccp. U mad bro?
Dado Prso	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:03:00 - [465] inconpatable version , anyone else getting this?
Eve Alabell	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:03:00 - [466] Originally by: IreSilver Wow. So people are paying for multiple accounts via ISK making in nullsec? Then they wonder why that enormous source of income has been nerfed? /facepalm Seriously. Nullsec is ridiculously profitable as is, I doubt this 'nerf' is going to have half the impact people are worried about in any case. This is exactly the kind of behavior one would see in WoW forums after a patch, and it's fairly saddening. People blowing things way out of proportion and threatening to ragequit (Of which a very small percent do, and most of those come back in a month or two anyway) It's CCP's game, they can do whatever they please with it. Nobody is forcing you to pay a subscription fee. Now all they need to do is nerf highsec Lvl 4 missions and we'll be sitting pretty... (I don't think anyone can claim that current ISK from lvl 4's isn't completely ridiculous) I think nullsec players have just been so used to receiving fantastic prizes that they're ****ed CCP is taking a small slice of the ubercake they've been granted. yep :)
Alpha Schodemeiss	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:03:00 - [467] Only an hour to go. Love it :D
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:04:00 - [468] Originally by: Dado Prso inconpatable version , anyone else getting this? DerpaDerp... Still 1 hour left on scheduled downtime for patching, wakeup and read first please.
Miss Desireless	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:05:00 - [469] UP ! Server's up, i m downloading the patch !
CorvairKid	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:05:00 - [470] Edited by: CorvairKid on 06/04/2011 14:06:17 where where?? i dont see it

FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:06:00 - [471] this is an awesome idea..... but.... just give ALL carebears 1 giant system with only belts.... NO NPC rats and such... Then give all carebears 1 day to enter that system. PvP not allowed. Then we kill the gate on the outside so they all carebears are t**d inside that 1 system :P Yaaaaarrrrrrrr Originally by:** Jon Sinmarr Edited by: Jon Sinmarr on 06/04/2011 13:57:51 CCP is doing a fine job and eve is great ! I wanted to put my cry babby carebear post in with all the others I've read lol. I would like to see 1.0 to .1 space as PVP OPTIONAL that way I can carebear up all of impire LOL ... Mighty carebear out
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:07:00 - [472] Originally by: CorvairKid Edited by: CorvairKid on 06/04/2011 14:06:17 where where?? i dont see it Where do you fools learn to tell time? It even posts eve time on every freakin forum post.. l2read
Sheba Egnald	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:07:00 - [473] Originally by: Dado Prso inconpatable version , anyone else getting this? no but im getting Incompatible Version lol!
Floydd Heywood	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:08:00 - [474] No status updates on the deployment process this time?
Richard Trior	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:08:00 - [475] OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun.
Dado Prso	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:09:00 - [476] Originally by: Sheba Egnald Originally by: Dado Prso inconpatable version , anyone else getting this? no but im getting Incompatible Version lol! oui mine is le francais!
Darbious	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:09:00 - [477] Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. and what is the Real issue lag i think not....try gettin a better computer
Shaera Taam Minmatar Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:10:00 - [478] Originally by: Vhal Vhindiscar Remove null sec nerf. Remove greyscale. Find dev's who understand how and why people who live in 0.0. Make a better game. Didn't we elect a 0.0 dominated CSM just to help stop these types of short sighted and misguided 0.0 'fixes?' No confidence in greyscale. No confidence in 'Team we don't even play this game.' No confidence in ccp. aaaand you give them money every month just for the privilege of posting your vote of no confidence on the boards? or do you actually play the game? oh, you do? then why give them money every month for a game you obviously have no confidence in? see where im going with this? your euro/dollar is your vote, friend. you dont like it? i have a simply solution: leave. there are plenty of us who love this game, do have confidence in it's ability to improve, and would be more than happy to 'haz ur stuffs' as you walk away in some sort of anti-climactic emoragequit. __________________________________________________ Gravity: It's not just a good idea, it's the law!" --Adam Savage, Mythbusters
Enkill Eridos	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:11:00 - [479] Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. +1
Miss Desireless	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:12:00 - [480] Originally by: Dado Prso Originally by: Sheba Egnald Originally by: Dado Prso inconpatable version , anyone else getting this? no but im getting Incompatible Version lol! oui mine is le francais! aaarrrr! Frenchies... How about TCF ?

Picture Swap1	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:12:00 - [481] Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. yes its an alt...who cares. But in fairness ganking people like you is what makes Eve for me... gotta love it ;). Fact is, dont like loosing your ships then dont venture into uncharted space. You know the consequences, bottom line... Dont do it :). Anyway, how are you?
LordOfTheHarvest	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:13:00 - [482] Edited by: LordOfTheHarvest on 06/04/2011 14:15:24 i agree if u dont wanna loose ur **** in null dont go there and ganking ships in null is fun as hell the emo tears get sweeter every time
superk 1	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:14:00 - [483] i am getting un compatible version how do i update or do i have to wait till 15;00
Wallis Jenkins	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:14:00 - [484] Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. Noone obliges you to go to the nulsecs lol :P
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:15:00 - [485] Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. First off, if someone steals your loot, they get flagged, so what i think you mean is they can SALVAGE and not get flagged. So my suggestion to you is, don't let your shiet lay around long enough for someone to scan you down in your mission and start salvaging, problem solved. Also, don't cry about losing your ship in low/null sec. You know the risks, deal with it. l2play and get your own fleet to fight the fleets you're complaining about.
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:15:00 - [486] so at sum point next week the system my corp has put countless man hours into upgrading will no longer have sanctums. hmmmmmmm time to gank sum carebares..
Sheba Egnald	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:15:00 - [487] Lets hope the anti lag gets rid of some of those wrinkles on Richards face lol! maybe they should introduce EVE Plastic surgery. :)
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:15:00 - [488] LOL. in a dark game as this we like the tears the most :P Yaaarrr Originally by: Picture Swap1 Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. yes its an alt...who cares. But in fairness ganking people like you is what makes Eve for me... gotta love it ;). Fact is, dont like loosing your ships then dont venture into uncharted space. You know the consequences, bottom line... Dont do it :). Anyway, how are you?
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:16:00 - [489] its not 1500 yet but is the server up? i still cant log in
Reaper xx	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:17:00 - [490] so when is this going to end ?

WarAuthority	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:17:00 - [491] It wouldnt hurt to walk on station and gank some of the spam bots in jita methinks... goons would likely beat me to the punch though..
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:18:00 - [492] prolly when the server is up :) Originally by: Reaper xx so when is this going to end ?
Darbious	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:18:00 - [493] Originally by: Serenity 159080 Edited by: Serenity 159080 on 01/04/2011 18:22:50 Wow, where is the love? Players have spent years complaining about the small things in EVE that just annoy the hell out of you, and now CCP are fixing them, and players complain that they don't care. Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. Good point, we do pay for the game, but they are the ones that create it, so I guess without a little of both there would be no game. Also it might be good to remember that this is not your person game, that other people play it and appreciate the changes. As for lag, yep thats a killer. However the dev blogs linked above give good information on why lag is something that can never be removed from the game, just minimised, as shown by the increasing cap on the Jita population. Originally by: Ramingo By 6 hours downtime, to implement a few missing plexes, they of course mean INSHALLAH!!!! As you most likely do not have technical knowledge of the CCP servers and software, then I would say it might be difficult to say what is and is not a long deployment time. However with the changes made to EVE recently, downtime has been reduced substantially, so if they need to take a little extra time for deployment to make sure everything works, thats fine with me. Originally by: Arth Lawing Figured out how to install stone age, freely availible forums. Missing DED plex's we didn't bother doing from years ago added. Other Crap. Many hours offline. And again, I am sure CCP apologise that EVE is not your personaly customised game with all the features you want. As for me, I am quite happy with the way that CCP are moving, they have a long way to go, but are getting there. Server upgrades, staggered release of Incursion, and refocusing on updating old content, all good stuff. But you have to ask yourself, would you want CCP to dedicate an entire expansion just to fixing old content, without bringing out anything new? I think a balance of both is good. Serenity An after thought, a devblog on the recent server problems would be nice, just to fully explain the issues that have been occuring. ok for one get a better computer or stop whinning about lag... two think u can do it better go make your own damn game you play by urself so you dont get smoked lol
Franka Sinatra	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:20:00 - [494] where can i manually download 237081 to 245651 or 245650?
Shaera Taam Minmatar Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:20:00 - [495] Originally by: Picture Swap1 Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. yes its an alt...who cares. But in fairness ganking people like you is what makes Eve for me... gotta love it ;). Fact is, dont like loosing your ships then dont venture into uncharted space. You know the consequences, bottom line... Dont do it :). Anyway, how are you? god i love this game! welcome to the sandbox! we have room for everyone! __________________________________________________ Gravity: It's not just a good idea, it's the law!" --Adam Savage, Mythbusters
Tester128	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:20:00 - [496] the anomaly nerfbat is too soft, put all them ratting supercapitals back to belts, lol
Darbious	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:21:00 - [497] Originally by: Wallis Jenkins Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. Noone obliges you to go to the nulsecs lol :P There are ways around everything...try just a bit harder you'll find the right skills you need for null
Loki Master Minmatar The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:21:00 - [498] Originally by: WarAuthority It wouldnt hurt to walk on station and gank some of the spam bots in jita methinks... goons would likely beat me to the punch though.. Yeah cause goons hang in jita and run empire as well as null you flippin ******!
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:22:00 - [499] did you loose a station 2 day's ago???? Yaaaaarrrr Originally by: Loki Master Originally by: WarAuthority It wouldnt hurt to walk on station and gank some of the spam bots in jita methinks... goons would likely beat me to the punch though.. Yeah cause goons hang in jita and run empire as well as null you flippin ******!
nig kestral	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:24:00 - [500] has anyone been able to log in yet?

FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:24:00 - [501] Edited by: FinaI Destination on 06/04/2011 14:25:03 yes. can't you ?? Woooot Wooot post 500 <----- Yaaaarrrrr Originally by: nig kestral has anyone been able to log in yet?
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:25:00 - [502] +20mins and still no update. What's the current time frame? I may have missed a CCP update somewhere in this thread but there was a lot of *****ing, crying and moaning to wade through.
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:26:00 - [503] CCP fixes something: "Wahhhh, why didn't you fix this earlier! I want new content!" CCP doesn't fix something: "Wahhh, why are you adding new content! We want game fixes!" And people wonder why dev responses are so scarce. -Sigh.- I don't know how they put up with it.
Sheba Egnald	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:27:00 - [504] Originally by: Modeaus +20mins and still no update. What's the current time frame? I may have missed a CCP update somewhere in this thread but there was a lot of *****ing, crying and moaning to wade through. Dont think we have had an update for a while.
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:27:00 - [505] Originally by: Modeaus +20mins and still no update. What's the current time frame? I may have missed a CCP update somewhere in this thread but there was a lot of *****ing, crying and moaning to wade through. 15:00 m8, 45 mins to go. According to the schedule anyway.
Eve Alabell	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:27:00 - [506] baah.... comeone guys... mostly noone of you would attack a even same equipped ship... ------ but yeah. i think too, there should be done a bit more to let pve'lers see whats outside highsec...
Gank'aho	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:28:00 - [507] Its not 15:00 yet.....
Caet Rhom	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:29:00 - [508] Edited by: Caet Rhom on 06/04/2011 14:29:40 Originally by: Eve Alabell baah.... comeone guys... mostly noone of you would attack a even same equipped ship... ------ but yeah. i think too, there should be done a bit more to let pve'lers see whats outside highsec... Just buy a cheap/fast frigate, and use a jump clone. Explore anywhere you want, on the cheap.
kKayron Jarvis Caldari Tech 3 Constructions	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:30:00 - [509] hoe wold like to tack bets on it not being up at 15:00? 1:2?
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:30:00 - [510] Edited by: Modeaus on 06/04/2011 14:31:21 Originally by: Nurrec Originally by: Modeaus +20mins and still no update. What's the current time frame? I may have missed a CCP update somewhere in this thread but there was a lot of *****ing, crying and moaning to wade through. 15:00 m8, 45 mins to go. According to the schedule anyway. Huh. My mistake, thought Eve time was GMT. tyvm. Edit: Evetime :)

Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:30:00 - [511] Originally by: Eve Alabell baah.... comeone guys... mostly noone of you would attack a even same equipped ship... ------ but yeah. i think too, there should be done a bit more to let pve'lers see whats outside highsec... Another DerpaDerp!!! Theres no wall stopping them from leaving highsec. Join a low/null sec corp/alliance, go venture in a covops, do whatever the F you want.. this isn't Candyland or Chutes & Ladders. Once again, l2play
grant manson Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:31:00 - [512] You guys do know that the server isent scheduled to be up for another 30min right? 15:00 UTC which means 16:00 GMT due to day light savings
Thue Shadow	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:31:00 - [513] 15.30 and sill suver if down wtf are ccp doing
Pewpcawx	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:31:00 - [514] Originally by: Darbious Originally by: Wallis Jenkins Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. Noone obliges you to go to the nulsecs lol :P There are ways around everything...try just a bit harder you'll find the right skills you need for null if someone salvages your stuff just grab a disco geddon or similar with 100% insurance, suicide them and then got and rat for a few days to fix your sec simples
Tereliss Verr Minmatar Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:31:00 - [515] It is 15:31 now, CCP needs to update their EvE clock!!!!! But all good as long as the thing works ;)
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:32:00 - [516] Sanctums are gone????? No Please say this isn't true.. OH WAIT who cares. Now its just warp to haven and get tackle, no more need to hit sanctum to see nothing is there only to warp into haven as your target is warping out. YAY. TY CCP.
Floydd Heywood	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:32:00 - [517] Originally by: Modeaus Huh. My mistake, thought Eve time was GMT. tyvm. It is. EVE and GMT don't do daylight saving
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:32:00 - [518] Edited by: TLWE on 06/04/2011 14:33:45 Originally by: Amy Cohen @Troll..Where to begin? For one thing I can tell where you live. Good job making Americans look like uneducated and ******ed sheep. For one thing well Americans put more crooks into office than Australia does. Not to mention that the original North American colonies were penal colonies. The Puritans were kicked out because England didn't want them there anymore. Those who were not Puritans where criminals as well. The only difference between Australia and America is Austrailia is where they put the violent criminals originally, and America is where they put the crooks. Also if you don't know what capitalism and socialism really are do not comment on it. Maybe you need to really learn what those two economic structures are and how they work before you comment on that topic. I mean if we learn nothing from history we should at least learn neither system has been 100% effective or true to the theories they are based on. Here's a news flash both systems are doomed to fail epically. Basically I'm trolling you to tell you that you are a black pot calling a black kettle black.. When you expect the least, after these raging about fascism trolls, you get suddenly hit from behind by Zeitgeist Movement What can I say? Ouch!? This is to say I sincerely DO completely agree with you. Resource based economy is the only way forward. A must. However how do you imagine using ideology of socialism to mold and then force people to change their habits without mass murder? How you imagine to robotize outright these 75% of work places with weakling socialist or liberal economy? I tell from here. I see it. This will not work. The misery of hedonism lies with liberalism. You will fail at building with resource based economy the Eudamony on Earth. Not that we all crave for Eudamony either. Specially us Christians, who see the path in Technocracy instead. Technocracy, which can implement 75% instant robotization on a fly with economy tiger neomercantilism and governmental jobs instead of social fares for still boosting raging momentum of industries and whole economy into far far far outskirts of space colonization. Plus imagine... we do not have to mold, force or mass murder people. It all comes with Natural Law. Clean hands is a bonus for avoiding these inhuman ideas of socialism. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Mark Ettier	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:32:00 - [519] Originally by: Richard Trior OK, first of all. To all you horrible 0.0 whiners. All you like to do is put up bubbles and shoot down every single ship you see in your system. What 20-80 man corp in empire wants to loose all their ships because the dumb goons or NC or anyone else in a redicoulous huge alliance feel like kicking the butts outta people that want to roam around and start making their corp money? They aren't looking to take down your titan making operations. You make it NOT FUN to even roam around in even lo sec because every single stupid one of you feel like you gotta get your 200 battleship fleet and **** over anyone that is not blue and sometimes you still do. Make it more inviting to some of the 600 thousand people that live in empire to boost your 77 thousand that live in lo and zero sec. Maybe then you get more of what you want? I hate the fact that there are a lot of stupid things that ccp has done for us in hi sec. But guess what there is no game on earth that will be able to give everyone what they want in a game. Impossible. I live with dumb game mechanics but I'm sure there is plenty of other people that like what I have to deal with etc... And to the dumb people that complain that they can't fund their several alts, god, must be nice, with in game isk due to this new nerf if you call it that. WOW! God forbid that you can't pick up that extra shift at work or stay late for someone so you can pull out your debit card and use RL money to fund your gaming habits. Some months I get to use isk to get plex, some months when I venture in zero sec or even hi sec and loose ships I have to pay. Big deal how old are you anyways? I think its stupid that some dumb ninja can steal my loot and not get flagged by concord and I loose money but guess what, oh well part of the game. I gotta deal with the grief. Gotta move on. And to the others who want to quit, GOOD, can I have your stuff? Really glad I won't have to cross paths with you in game in future and maybe make more room for other non whiners to have fun. This is difficult to read, but I made it through. I played in Empire for two years, followed by a year in low sec before moving to null sec. ##My goal of null sec was to PvP _and_ earn isk to do some indy things I always wanted to try## The majority of 0.0 players just want to pew pew. The "grind" in 0.0 is earning the isk to replace what just got popped. Logistics is the name of the game for any sustained 0.0 alliance. I had no idea while in Empire OR Low Sec how much I depending on readily available markets, easy access to massive amounts of trit, or how close I really was to Jita/Amarr/etc hubs. I now live over 50, yes 50+ conventional jumps away from a market hub. You think things might be a little more expensive from Jita due to the hassle of bringing them out here? yup. Is someone getting rich? probably just saving for their next JF in case of a gank. You are complaining that 0.0 is NBSI (not blue shoot it). With the ability to take down an ihub, would you do anything else? CVA tried and after dominion change, they died... We occasionally get neutral alliances trying to start up waay out here. They get ganked because we can't afford the titan bridge next door. Think tactically about why 0.0 behaves the way it does rather than make it clear you have never lived out here. EvE is a pvp game.. 0.0 is where the vast majority of ships die and minerals for replacement goes. 0.0 fuels the EvE economy. The 40+ TRILLION trit that blew up on Valentine's Day? 0.0 fighting. Why do you think trit prices have increase? 0.0 fighting. If you haven't figured this out in Empire, then you're probably destined to remain poor in EvE. Losing a few BS to lvl4s is nothing to the weekly pvp deaths that occur in 0.0. Honestly, if EvE turns into a roam around the station "Star Trek" fest; I'm gone. (Been a fun ride, but I don't want rpg.)
Wallis Jenkins	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:32:00 - [520] Edited by: Wallis Jenkins on 06/04/2011 14:33:00 Originally by: Thue Shadow 15.30 and sill suver if down wtf are ccp doing It's 14.30 dumbass))))

cyborgen	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:33:00 - [521] Nulsec bubbling ? ... love it lol It's like a fishing trip. We all sit around the gate roasting marshmallows waiting for a carebear fish (hopefully an Orca filled with goodies) to jump in :) Just replace the eve sound track with the soft rustling of a salmon river and you've got a great hunting fix lmao
Jemsterr Caldari Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:33:00 - [522] Originally by: Modeaus Edited by: Modeaus on 06/04/2011 14:31:21 Originally by: Nurrec Originally by: Modeaus +20mins and still no update. What's the current time frame? I may have missed a CCP update somewhere in this thread but there was a lot of ****ing, crying and moaning to wade through. 15:00 m8, 45 mins to go. According to the schedule anyway. Huh. My mistake, thought Eve time was GMT. tyvm. Edit: Evetime :) GMT is* UTC fools, GMT is not the time in London, London is currently GMT +1
Dr'Laaq Dashavatara	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:33:00 - [523] 16:32 overhere in the Netherlands,, probably another 28 minutes of agonishing waiting time ^^
CO Bradley The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:33:00 - [524] Edited by: CO Bradley on 06/04/2011 14:34:08 Originally by: Darbious ok for one get a better computer or stop whinning about lag... two think u can do it better go make your own damn game you play by urself so you dont get smoked lol I'm guessing you have absolutely no idea what this lag that's being discussed even is. CCP keep up the good work... while I don't like everything in the patch notes I'm glad some things are being resolved.
second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:33:00 - [525] i dont understand what everyone's complaining about... aside from some lag in a blob fight ive never experienced any problems, and i remember when Empyrean Age was deployed, and it was deployed EARLY, so CCP is working as hard as they can
Taron Skor	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:34:00 - [526] Edited by: Taron Skor on 06/04/2011 14:35:12
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:34:00 - [527] Originally by: Tereliss Verr It is 15:31 now, CCP needs to update their EvE clock!!!!! But all good as long as the thing works ;) HOLY NOOBS!! l2telltime, eve doesnt have daylight savings, adjust your shiet or read the times on forum posts. TY
Gank'aho	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:36:00 - [528] SERVERS UP
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:36:00 - [529] Originally by: Wallis Jenkins Edited by: Wallis Jenkins on 06/04/2011 14:33:00 Originally by: Thue Shadow 15.30 and sill suver if down wtf are ccp doing It's 14.30 dumbass)))) Totally agree. u are all a bunch of stupid fgts if u think its 1530 eve time.
second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:37:00 - [530] Originally by: Gank'aho SERVERS UP Lies!!

Earth Child	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:37:00 - [531] HOW MUCH LONGER!! im bored
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:38:00 - [532] Originally by: Gank'aho SERVERS UP No. Just.. no.
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:39:00 - [533] Originally by: Earth Child HOW MUCH LONGER!! im bored Get a life =P
Karren M	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:39:00 - [534] Has anyone else seen that RED "incompatible Version" text? I thought I got a virus yesterday.. Hopefully everyone else got the same thing. It has since disappeared, and is like the normal"Incompatible Version" text just before an update.. Now, just waiting for the patch to update hopefully.
ryuuzanx Caldari Arbitrary Freedom	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:39:00 - [535] So wait, Its not 15:00 yet? I set my ****ty windows vista clock to eve time, and its wrong. Well, thats what I get for running vista i suppose
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:39:00 - [536] Edited by: Epyx Nykee on 06/04/2011 14:40:01 I say we all just post comical Kill's.. I Bet this guy wishes that they had removed Sanctums a day ago... http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12958641
Lord Gisborne Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:39:00 - [537] CCP do you mind, ive got some minmatar slaves to pick up from amarr and some vitoc to buy come on, or i shall bring the wrath of the empire on you. "I æam the fire that burns through the light, I am the sword that pierces the Darkness, i am gods will that shall strike with vengeance... i am True Amarr" Lord Gisborne, First Combat
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:40:00 - [538] Mighty CareBear here I say read the time on the posts it will give you eve time lol .. and people call me a nob
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:40:00 - [539] yup i had it too. was first small part prolly Originally by: Karren M Has anyone else seen that RED "incompatible Version" text? I thought I got a virus yesterday.. Hopefully everyone else got the same thing. It has since disappeared, and is like the normal"Incompatible Version" text just before an update.. Now, just waiting for the patch to update hopefully.
Sangers	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:40:00 - [540] So what has happened to the updates. Are they ahead or behind schedule?

Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:41:00 - [541] Originally by: ryuuzanx So wait, Its not 15:00 yet? I set my ****ty windows vista clock to eve time, and its wrong. Well, thats what I get for running vista i suppose correct me if im wrong... but ur PC should update its clock based on what TZ ur on. unless u set ur clock to a different country on purpose so ur time goes +/- an hour for eve lol
PanKrolik	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:41:00 - [542] Mmm all those new overpriced DED mods to sell. Some of those and you can pew pew for weeks. $_$
Chameleon Eyes	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:41:00 - [543] IM bored too, and i have a life. Get the server up please, just leave out some of the boring changes you are making this time round CCP
Takem Downard	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:41:00 - [544] I really find it amusing that half of you complaining are the same ppl that were complaining last year and the year before. If you dont like the game don't play! The biggest suggestion I wanna make is this; The ppl most upset with CCP are those who have been playing for a long time and in turn are probably not actually paying for game time. I find it odd that you feel a sense of entitlement when you dont contribute. For many this is a free game thanks to PLEX. If you dont like it get an education and develope a game suited to your BxxCH AxxES!
Tassadar IV	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:42:00 - [545] Originally by: FinaI Destination yup i had it too. was first small part prolly You look like a goof
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:42:00 - [546] ignorance is bliss.... ^ look at your forum posts it says eve time.... so if your post saying its 1530, says its time stamped 14:30.... egg on your face
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:42:00 - [547] Ask CCP Claw he knows :) Yaaarrrr Originally by: Sangers So what has happened to the updates. Are they ahead or behind schedule?
Servjen Gallente Giant Industrials	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:42:00 - [548] Edited by: Servjen on 06/04/2011 14:42:40 Originally by: Jemsterr Originally by: Modeaus Edited by: Modeaus on 06/04/2011 14:31:21 Originally by: Nurrec Originally by: Modeaus +20mins and still no update. What's the current time frame? I may have missed a CCP update somewhere in this thread but there was a lot of ****ing, crying and moaning to wade through. 15:00 m8, 45 mins to go. According to the schedule anyway. Huh. My mistake, thought Eve time was GMT. tyvm. Edit: Evetime :) GMT is* UTC fools, GMT is not the time in London, London is currently GMT +1 BIG correction. GMT IS London time and uses in such daylight saving. EvE uses UTC!! which don't uses daylight saving. thats why the gap between your time and eve time is adjusted every half a year by an hour.
loves 2spooge	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:42:00 - [549] this guy most def wish's it http://nxs6.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9314922
ryuuzanx Caldari Arbitrary Freedom	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:43:00 - [550] Originally by: Draxind Originally by: ryuuzanx So wait, Its not 15:00 yet? I set my ****ty windows vista clock to eve time, and its wrong. Well, thats what I get for running vista i suppose correct me if im wrong... but ur PC should update its clock based on what TZ ur on. unless u set ur clock to a different country on purpose so ur time goes +/- an hour for eve lol Thats what I did. well. correction. thats what i wanted to do. no idea if i actually did it lol

Amar Azaph	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:43:00 - [551] On the site it says that the patch time has been extended to 1600 UTC.
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:44:00 - [552] oh why o why do they not post in the forum thread that they start to keep us updated on patch...
Karren M	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:44:00 - [553] Originally by: FinaI Destination yup i had it too. was first small part prolly Thanks for the reply!
Mordikye Beyond The Gates	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:45:00 - [554] Originally by: loves 2spooge this guy most def wish's it http://nxs6.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9314922 WINNING .................................................. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Digital Spit	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:45:00 - [555] NO!! Dont say 16h00 now ffs
Jobie Kammakutu	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:45:00 - [556] Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. To those that talk about being paying customers, nothing in being a paying customer gives the customer any intrinsic mandate to dictate to the developer of a product of service how things should be done. In the basic social contract of goods and services someone such as CCP creates a service you want to partake in. This is what made Everquest great and WoW the diet soda of MMOs. The product generates demand is idea creatively compared to designed for the masses. The argument I hear many times is that CCP should cater to the demands of the players as a priority. Designing an MMO to meet customer demands has been done. It is called World of Warcraft. Designed for the masses. Since we are here, rather then there, I assume that we don't want a "caters to the masses" developer. "Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME..." They do listen to the community, and the vast majority of subscriptions agree that CCP is doing things correctly. Those that flame on every little change need to grab an Al Gore film, a card board sign with The End is Near, and hide in their basement as the world changes around them since if they are this upset at a minor gameplay change, imagine how they must cope with real world changes, like ... weather. XFluke your are greatly out of touch with the majority of players. Your egocentric rant clearly ignores basic facts of the Eve Population. You need to come out of your self absorbed shell of a life and realize that there are 300,000+ accounts and the base majority of them never even deal with lag. < 10% of the Eve population by subscription participates in fleet battles so the reality is only about 10% have to deal with any real lag. The % of players in Hi-sec versus 0.0 space versus wormhole... you know what... I'm going to stop there. I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.
second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:46:00 - [557] Originally by: Karren M Has anyone else seen that RED "incompatible Version" text? I thought I got a virus yesterday.. Hopefully everyone else got the same thing. It has since disappeared, and is like the normal"Incompatible Version" text just before an update.. Now, just waiting for the patch to update hopefully. was going to say, my text isn't red but incompatible version yes
Samual Smith	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:46:00 - [558] Originally by: Amar Azaph On the site it says that the patch time has been extended to 1600 UTC. It was to be expected, get it right CCP
Sangers	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:47:00 - [559] It might not say 16:00, but CCP tradition would be to run late, expect to be up and running this time THURSDAY.............
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:48:00 - [560] Originally by: Digital Spit NO!! Dont say 16h00 now ffs they already delayed a day lol whats another hour

TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:48:00 - [561] Originally by: Earth Child HOW MUCH LONGER!! im bored I have that feeling the DT will be prolonged. :) We should have isk lottery about DT! It would make waiting much more exciting -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Silath Silverpine	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:48:00 - [562] Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. To those that talk about being paying customers, nothing in being a paying customer gives the customer any intrinsic mandate to dictate to the developer of a product of service how things should be done. In the basic social contract of goods and services someone such as CCP creates a service you want to partake in. This is what made Everquest great and WoW the diet soda of MMOs. The product generates demand is idea creatively compared to designed for the masses. The argument I hear many times is that CCP should cater to the demands of the players as a priority. Designing an MMO to meet customer demands has been done. It is called World of Warcraft. Designed for the masses. Since we are here, rather then there, I assume that we don't want a "caters to the masses" developer. "Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME..." They do listen to the community, and the vast majority of subscriptions agree that CCP is doing things correctly. Those that flame on every little change need to grab an Al Gore film, a card board sign with The End is Near, and hide in their basement as the world changes around them since if they are this upset at a minor gameplay change, imagine how they must cope with real world changes, like ... weather. XFluke your are greatly out of touch with the majority of players. Your egocentric rant clearly ignores basic facts of the Eve Population. You need to come out of your self absorbed shell of a life and realize that there are 300,000+ accounts and the base majority of them never even deal with lag. < 10% of the Eve population by subscription participates in fleet battles so the reality is only about 10% have to deal with any real lag. The % of players in Hi-sec versus 0.0 space versus wormhole... you know what... I'm going to stop there. I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today. Excellent post. Cheers for that! Also: "The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 16:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience." Sadness :(
elegance refined	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:49:00 - [563] It never ceases to amaze me ! CCP has the world worse track record for getting anything done in the time they say they will ! yet every time , everyone *****es and whines like its a new thing ..... prediction #1 for them getting it done ------ 17:46
Mordikye Beyond The Gates	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:49:00 - [564] Originally by: Amar Azaph On the site it says that the patch time has been extended to 1600 UTC. Bull**** .................................................. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Floydd Heywood	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:49:00 - [565] I don't see anything saying it's 1600 UTC now. Originally by: Servjen BIG correction. GMT IS London time and uses in such daylight saving. No.
Takem Downard	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:49:00 - [566] WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! friggin change your diapers ppl!
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:50:00 - [567] Edited by: 0''o''0 on 06/04/2011 14:50:40 For those less fortunate people lacking the intelligence to calculate UTC, here it is. UTC Time for the stupider EVE Players
Aluzia	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:51:00 - [568] Originally by: Skaarl oh and i know its a late late hour to bring this up, but you realize that if you are relying on DED sites to make up for the loss in anomoly income.... well you do realize that the RUS/EU players will have them all run long before nay US player logs in to even begin probing right? i mean you have thought these out and taken that into account? oh wait nm, this is ccp we are talking about, of course you haven't. Your blaming CCP for the Earth's orbit? You do realise that even with two downtime's a day to reset things, people will get an opportunity before others all the time.
glue bag Alduin	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:51:00 - [569] when i try to login it just says incompleat version? it is pased 1500 any sugestions.
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:52:00 - [570] Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. you know what... I'm going to stop there. I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today. fantastic lol +1

Miss NBT	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:52:00 - [571] Edited by: Miss NBT on 06/04/2011 14:52:34 mhh thats strange ... is not the client side patch ready yet to download???
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:52:00 - [572] Originally by: glue bag Alduin when i try to login it just says incompleat version? it is pased 1500 any sugestions. why is it so hard to look one text line up^^^ its still 14:52 ::facepalm::
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:52:00 - [573] Mighty CareBear likes his shell LOL .... I want to see Optional PVP from 1.0 to .1 space but that will never happen in this game So I deal with it and all that cry about the loss of ships and isk are going to be the same people to cry about any thing that ccp does. Eve is a fine GAME and I enjoy it so why don't you cry babby posters ??? Mighty CareBear out
Loki Master Minmatar The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:53:00 - [574] Originally by: glue bag Alduin when i try to login it just says incompleat version? it is pased 1500 any sugestions. yup your high on glue alright
loves 2spooge	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:53:00 - [575] waiting for the servers to come up is like chas'in someone in a dream no matter how fast you run (how long you wait) they get further and further away
Chelsea Devildriver	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:53:00 - [576] Can downlaod it now!
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:53:00 - [577] Originally by: glue bag Alduin when i try to login it just says incompleat version? it is pased 1500 any sugestions. No, it is not past 15:00 you charlie uniform november tango.
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:53:00 - [578] Really, i laughed so hard i made it my signature. Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.
Pixak	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:53:00 - [579] Originally by: Modeaus Edited by: Modeaus on 06/04/2011 14:31:21 Originally by: Nurrec Originally by: Modeaus +20mins and still no update. What's the current time frame? I may have missed a CCP update somewhere in this thread but there was a lot of *****ing, crying and moaning to wade through. 15:00 m8, 45 mins to go. According to the schedule anyway. Huh. My mistake, thought Eve time was GMT. tyvm. Edit: Evetime :) It is GMT. That's why its going out in 8 minutes (not holding my breath)...
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:54:00 - [580] Edited by: IreSilver on 06/04/2011 14:56:14 Originally by: Mordikye Originally by: Amar Azaph On the site it says that the patch time has been extended to 1600 UTC. Bull**** Orly? http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp eve online: incursion 1.4 deployment extended reported by CCP Fallout \| 2011.04.06 14:39:59 \| NEW The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 16:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience. Le sigh. Anyone who's ever worked with computers knows even when everything should be right, they tend to have a mind of their own and these amazing and annoying things happen... now what are they called... Oh, that's right. Unforseen circumstances!

Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:54:00 - [581] Originally by: glue bag Alduin when i try to login it just says incompleat version? it is pased 1500 any sugestions. U posted at 14:51 m8t
Bei XiaoJie	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:54:00 - [582] Originally by: glue bag Alduin when i try to login it just says incompleat version? it is pased 1500 any sugestions. I suggest that you check your clock ... its only 1452 (GMT)
Azhpol Gallente Casa Del Wombat	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:55:00 - [583] not reading all this, so this may be redundant... but enjoy non the less ;) Patch links: Windows patch: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch237081-246350_m.exe Mac patch: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch237081-246350-mac.tgz ----------------------------------------------- Market help thread, or troll magnet?
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:56:00 - [584] 5 mins to go, and still no update aviable. oh, another epic fail...
BoomBashBang	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:56:00 - [585] Eve time is 1 behind GMT now that British Summer Time is now in effect
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:56:00 - [586] They have extended downtime another hour because of the amount of sheer idiotic ***lords that think the time is already up believe it or not - everyone is laughing at u people
Theng Hofses	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:56:00 - [587] Originally by: Floydd Heywood I don't see anything saying it's 1600 UTC now. Originally by: Servjen BIG correction. GMT IS London time and uses in such daylight saving. No. The UK right now uses BST - British Summer Time, not GMT or UTC. The same way that the east coast of the United States moved from EST (eastern standard time) to EDT (eastern daylight savings time) or MET to MEST. http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/bst.html
HisToy	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:57:00 - [588] Wondering how it's gonna look like now? Few systems with carriers doing sanctums/heavens where ppl make 500m within one hour and other systems completly abandon? Mmm is it really change for good?
NekoGeko	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:57:00 - [589] Originally by: TLWE Originally by: Earth Child HOW MUCH LONGER!! im bored I have that feeling the DT will be prolonged. :) We should have isk lottery about DT! It would make waiting much more exciting I bet 10kk on that last update will be prolonged and I lost them(
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:58:00 - [590] Originally by: Jon Sinmarr Mighty CareBear likes his shell LOL .... I want to see Optional PVP from 1.0 to .1 space but that will never happen in this game So I deal with it and all that cry about the loss of ships and isk are going to be the same people to cry about any thing that ccp does. Eve is a fine GAME and I enjoy it so why don't you cry babby posters ??? Mighty CareBear out u said dis already... and why should low sec be optional pvp.... the whole idea of low sec is the friggin wild west of eve... little pockets of securtiy... ur still in the empire... but when ya venture off the farm so to say you got your own back... I love the dark twisted universe of eve.. and the game should reflect it... im not crazy rpger but i enjoy that created world.... it should play like it was envisioned to.. otherwise theres no rules to bound anythign sorry for going higher level there i on my 3rd bowl as i read the ridculousness that happens on the forums on patch day... clearly they doing something right if you all so outraged that you cant play for few hours.........

0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:58:00 - [591] Originally by: HisToy Wondering how it's gonna look like now? Few systems with carriers doing sanctums/heavens where ppl make 500m within one hour and other systems completly abandon? Mmm is it really change for good? A change is as good as a breast.
DemoGraFX	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:58:00 - [592] A lot of people here in the states are under daylight savings and haven't figured out the new time difference between GMT and their time. Daylight Savings Time was recent, and even though the clocks moved an hour under Daylight Savings Time, GMT does not move at all, which I am guessing is why at least half of these people are having a time issue.
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 14:59:00 - [593] Might Carebear can't wait to see the new face of 0.0 I might even find a system to carebear up
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:00:00 - [594] Well just so that all you carebears and complainers have something to make u feel warm and fuzzy I'll give you a piece of jita life "Hi all, my wife is making me quit eve. I have 13bil and giving it away. Just send me whatever isk you wan't and I will 2x it back to you."
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:00:00 - [595] Edited by: Athena reekoo on 06/04/2011 15:03:16 Originally by: Mordikye Originally by: loves 2spooge this guy most def wish's it http://nxs6.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9314922 WINNING i've got 2 for you... http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8902800 a bad day for botting http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8916475 another bad day for botting
Nayl Mkoll	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:00:00 - [596] Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: glue bag Alduin when i try to login it just says incompleat version? it is pased 1500 any sugestions. No, it is not past 15:00 you charlie uniform november tango. ^this
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:00:00 - [597] Originally by: DemoGraFX A lot of people here in the states are under daylight savings and haven't figured out the new time difference between GMT and their time. Daylight Savings Time was recent, and even though the clocks moved an hour under Daylight Savings Time, GMT does not move at all, which I am guessing is why at least half of these people are having a time issue. Funny how every ****ing forum post has the timestamp, are you telling me they can't read in Ohmerica?
Loki Feiht	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:00:00 - [598] \o/ its working
Dhoom Hope	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:01:00 - [599] Update at 14:40 UTC. The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 16:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience.
loves 2spooge	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:01:00 - [600] i think you need to quit your wife!

Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:01:00 - [601] Newsflash: GMT AND UTC ARE THE SAME GOD DAMN TIME ZONE Quote From Time Website [Quote] Since radio signals can cross multiple time zones and the international date line, some worldwide standard for time and date is needed. This standard is coordinated universal time, abbreviated UTC. This was formerly known as Greenwich mean time (GMT). Other terms used to refer to it include "Zulu time" (after the "Z" often used after UTC times), "universal time," and "world time." [/Quote]
Jon LucPicard	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:01:00 - [602] Shouldn't be too difficult to gauge time...all these posts have an eve-time time stamp.
Mrs Winter	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:02:00 - [603] Free SP or something for Aussie/NZ timezone people that lose so much game time..... Just cause we're a small percentage, dont overlook us. Lets be fair, cause we pay just as much as our imerican and euro friends.
xXThunder StruckXx	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:02:00 - [604] here we go again !! 15:00 AND **** ALL LIFE IN THE SERVER
Clone723 dosSantos	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:02:00 - [605] I cant believe you guys/gals are so imature, all you can do is whine about "Oh the server is not up yet" or "the patch isn't fixing real issues" WTF grow a pair including the gals, and tanks the developers all their hard work they put into something like this, the unsung hearos of this all. Although you may pay to play this game, if it wasn't for the developers you wouldn't have a game to F*%$EN PLAY would you now, nobody forced you to do so. So STFU and an occasional Thank You would be nice to. Thaks guys for all your hard work, and keep up the good work.
DemoGraFX	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:02:00 - [606] Originally by: Epyx Nykee Well just so that all you carebears and complainers have something to make u feel warm and fuzzy I'll give you a piece of jita life "Hi all, my wife is making me quit eve. I have 13bil and giving it away. Just send me whatever isk you wan't and I will 2x it back to you." "Hi all, my wife is trying to make me quit eve. Send me whatever isk you have and I'll send you MY WIFE"
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:02:00 - [607] Originally by: Loki Feiht \o/ its working u lied :( Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.
Eve Alabell	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:02:00 - [608] Originally by: Nayl Mkoll Originally by: Jon Sinmarr Mighty CareBear likes his shell LOL .... I want to see Optional PVP from 1.0 to .1 space but that will never happen in this game So I deal with it and all that cry about the loss of ships and isk are going to be the same people to cry about any thing that ccp does. Eve is a fine GAME and I enjoy it so why don't you cry babby posters ??? Mighty CareBear out u said dis already... and why should low sec be optional pvp.... the whole idea of low sec is the friggin wild west of eve... little pockets of securtiy... ur still in the empire... but when ya venture off the farm so to say you got your own back... I love the dark twisted universe of eve.. and the game should reflect it... im not crazy rpger but i enjoy that created world.... it should play like it was envisioned to.. otherwise theres no rules to bound anythign sorry for going higher level there i on my 3rd bowl as i read the ridculousness that happens on the forums on patch day... clearly they doing something right if you all so outraged that you cant play for few hours......... then there should be eventually a middle-thing? ^^ with security and the chances you will get in 0.0 :D there could be less isk earnings be or something that doesnt make it 100% equal to original 0.0 dont know how many people are active in nulsec but i think there are not much compared with highsec.
Dana Codie	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:03:00 - [609] guys ffs in eve there is no summer time. eve is always GMT WINTERTIME so when ccp says 3pm gmt it means 3pm winter time. o7
Hayley Sativa	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:03:00 - [610] can't wait to fly in 1.4!

Dylan Glyndwr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:03:00 - [611] Originally by: DemoGraFX A lot of people here in the states are under daylight savings and haven't figured out the new time difference between GMT and their time. Daylight Savings Time was recent, and even though the clocks moved an hour under Daylight Savings Time, GMT does not move at all, which I am guessing is why at least half of these people are having a time issue. What they said ^ Originally by: BoomBashBang Eve time is 1 behind GMT now that British Summer Time is now in effect EVE time IS GMT. GMT does not become BST BST is GMT + 1 therefore EVE is 1 hour behind BST. Lesson ends
JeMeTTe Jouhinen	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:03:00 - [612] Would you people learn what GMT actually is???? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Mean_Time Quote: In the UK, GMT is the official time only during winter; during summer British Summer Time is used. GMT is the same as Western European Time.[2
34 DD	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:04:00 - [613] GMT IS 1 HOUR FORWARD THEN EVE TIME ITS 16.00 GMT EVE TIME NOW IS 15.00
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:04:00 - [614] Give CCP time, they still have to replace the hamsters!
Nurrec	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:04:00 - [615] Originally by: xXThunder StruckXx here we go again !! 15:00 AND **** ALL LIFE IN THE SERVER U mad?
Sangers	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:04:00 - [616] Hey Demo, my wife hates EVE too, wanna swap.........
loves 2spooge	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:05:00 - [617] it is wierd how peeps can play this game for years and still not get that Eve does now use Daylight saving
ObiWan TwoThree	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:05:00 - [618] Originally by: xXThunder StruckXx here we go again !! 15:00 AND **** ALL LIFE IN THE SERVER U MAD? GO play RL
tex sharky	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:05:00 - [619] who cares about utc and stuff - just gimme my eve back! NAOWWW
Ptakk	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:05:00 - [620] Originally by: TLWE Edited by: TLWE on 06/04/2011 14:33:45 Originally by: Amy Cohen @Troll..Where to begin? For one thing I can tell where you live. Good job making Americans look like uneducated and ******ed sheep. For one thing well Americans put more crooks into office than Australia does. Not to mention that the original North American colonies were penal colonies. The Puritans were kicked out because England didn't want them there anymore. Those who were not Puritans where criminals as well. The only difference between Australia and America is Austrailia is where they put the violent criminals originally, and America is where they put the crooks. Also if you don't know what capitalism and socialism really are do not comment on it. Maybe you need to really learn what those two economic structures are and how they work before you comment on that topic. I mean if we learn nothing from history we should at least learn neither system has been 100% effective or true to the theories they are based on. Here's a news flash both systems are doomed to fail epically. Basically I'm trolling you to tell you that you are a black pot calling a black kettle black.. When you expect the least, after these raging about fascism trolls, you get suddenly hit from behind by Zeitgeist Movement What can I say? Ouch!? This is to say I sincerely DO completely agree with you. Resource based economy is the only way forward. A must. However how do you imagine using ideology of socialism to mold and then force people to change their habits without mass murder? How you imagine to robotize outright these 75% of work places with weakling socialist or liberal economy? I tell from here. I see it. This will not work. The misery of hedonism lies with liberalism. You will fail at building with resource based economy the Eudamony on Earth. Not that we all crave for Eudamony either. Specially us Christians, who see the path in Technocracy instead. Technocracy, which can implement 75% instant robotization on a fly with economy tiger neomercantilism and governmental jobs instead of social fares for still boosting raging momentum of industries and whole economy into far far far outskirts of space colonization. Plus imagine... we do not have to mold, force or mass murder people. It all comes with Natural Law. Clean hands is a bonus for avoiding these inhuman ideas of socialism. Eh?

General Zola	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:05:00 - [621] Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Would you people learn what GMT actually is???? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Mean_Time pfft next you'll tell us there's no Santa!!!
DemoGraFX	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:05:00 - [622] lol
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:05:00 - [623] EVE not on? Oh. Back to world of tanks.
Darteis Elosia Gallente PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G. DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:05:00 - [624] Originally by: Nurrec Originally by: xXThunder StruckXx here we go again !! 15:00 AND **** ALL LIFE IN THE SERVER U mad? He mad bro i accidentally 10 new presets on my x-station while server down.
Replacement 234	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:06:00 - [625] If you are really an Eve player - ALL your household clocks are set to Eve time. Sure, I started out slow - just changed an old watch that sat in my desk drawer and would die if I didn't open the desk drawer often enough to keep it wound. Then it was the microwave oven clock - lots of marital bliss over that move. Then the car clock, and then I finally figured out how to set the clock on the 1980s VCR in the garage. I knew it was time to start going to the EA meeting (Eve Anonymous) when I got in trouble at work - (the US Army) when I tried to convince the first Sergeant to change the clocks in the Orderly Room.... Hello, my name is Replacement 234, and I'm..... I'm... still can't get it out....
Kawai	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:06:00 - [626] Originally by: Clone723 dosSantos I cant believe you guys/gals are so imature, all you can do is whine about "Oh the server is not up yet" or "the patch isn't fixing real issues" WTF grow a pair including the gals, and tanks the developers all their hard work they put into something like this, the unsung hearos of this all. Although you may pay to play this game, if it wasn't for the developers you wouldn't have a game to F*%$EN PLAY would you now, nobody forced you to do so. So STFU and an occasional Thank You would be nice to. Thaks guys for all your hard work, and keep up the good work. Lmao do you play for free?? or maby you mine in highsec
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:06:00 - [627] Dinner time :) Originally by: Dako Semi Chill out foks. All updates are free sofar. so why complain. Let CCP do there work and enjoi the good wether outside. at least in Holland :P If you don't have good wether give the wife, girl or friends some attention while it last. Life continu in about 1.5 hours with some luck. ...... sry need to go afk again to play with my doggies. the sun is shining here :) o/ Dako
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [628] Mighty CareBear says give the time and time zones a rest Lets post something else like how much we love eve and can't wait to log on or something + like that
Loki Feiht	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [629] Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Loki Feiht \o/ its working u lied :( you checked :)
Coppy Scesa	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [630] u r so right dinta :D

Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [631] ok so now what the patch is in and the server was supose to be back up an hour and 10 minutes ago so whats going on ?
Wraths child	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [632] I just tried to fart and **** my pants!
Hydraka	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [633] Originally by: Kawai Originally by: Clone723 dosSantos I cant believe you guys/gals are so imature, all you can do is whine about "Oh the server is not up yet" or "the patch isn't fixing real issues" WTF grow a pair including the gals, and tanks the developers all their hard work they put into something like this, the unsung hearos of this all. Although you may pay to play this game, if it wasn't for the developers you wouldn't have a game to F*%$EN PLAY would you now, nobody forced you to do so. So STFU and an occasional Thank You would be nice to. Thaks guys for all your hard work, and keep up the good work. maby you mine in highsec That.
Funmaster Bob Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [634] I will respond to the 'think of the unsung heroes'/dev comment.. They are PAID to do their job, they dont do it out of love. Also, we PAY to play this game, its not like we're gifted with it. I understand the need for taking the servers down for maintenance and patches, but would you be so forgiving if it was someone coming to repair a window to your house, or the Police turning up 15 minutes late? I thank CCP for their efforts with EVE but releasing an 'uptime' and not sticking to it... ____________________________________ Flight Instructor Cold is Gods way of telling us to burn more sinners. I am the Funmaster, NONE shall have fun while Im
Oliveczka	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [635] Time is up (http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx) and EVE is still offilne
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:07:00 - [636] Originally by: Loki Feiht Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Loki Feiht \o/ its working u lied :( you checked :) You Failed
Goin Off	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:08:00 - [637] Well true to usual fashion 1500 GMT came and went and we still have an "Incompatible Version". Oh well guess we'll just have to continue to wait and hope for the best. BTW a few million skill points would be greatly appreciated
Redadder	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:08:00 - [638] Originally by: 34 DD GMT IS 1 HOUR FORWARD THEN EVE TIME ITS 16.00 GMT EVE TIME NOW IS 15.00 GMT is not 1 hour forward, UK summer time is. GMT does not change. It is now 1607 british summer and 1507 GMT
tex sharky	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:08:00 - [639] Whine... - give me MOAR whine ppl!!!!
Zaru Varin	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:08:00 - [640] Edited by: Zaru Varin on 06/04/2011 15:09:00 Edited by: Zaru Varin on 06/04/2011 15:08:03 Originally by: Replacement 234 If you are really an Eve player - ALL your household clocks are set to Eve time. Lol I got 3 watches in here that runs on eve time to.. cell phone. handwatch and pc all runs dual time haha and pluss 1 to eve luve -------------------------------------------------- I am the new Buyyou Sellme

Kato Danzo ICEBOX.	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:08:00 - [641] Originally by: Clone723 dosSantos I cant believe you guys/gals are so imature, all you can do is whine about "Oh the server is not up yet" or "the patch isn't fixing real issues" WTF grow a pair including the gals, and tanks the developers all their hard work they put into something like this, the unsung hearos of this all. Although you may pay to play this game, if it wasn't for the developers you wouldn't have a game to F*%$EN PLAY would you now, nobody forced you to do so. So STFU and an occasional Thank You would be nice to. Thaks guys for all your hard work, and keep up the good work. Settle down brown nose...
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:08:00 - [642] Originally by: Loki Feiht Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Loki Feiht \o/ its working u lied :( you checked :) yes :< Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:08:00 - [643] Originally by: Jon Sinmarr Mighty CareBear says give the time and time zones a rest Lets post something else like how much we love eve and can't wait to log on or something + like that +1
loves 2spooge	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:08:00 - [644] Edited by: loves 2spooge on 06/04/2011 15:09:52 :face palm: Originally by: Valmora Jung ok so now what the patch is in and the server was supose to be back up an hour and 10 minutes ago so whats going on ?
Loki Master Minmatar The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:09:00 - [645] Originally by: Valmora Jung ok so now what the patch is in and the server was supose to be back up an hour and 10 minutes ago so whats going on ? FFs people read the time stamps in the forums you are reading you stupid monkeys cant read or what?
jimmy random	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:09:00 - [646] Originally by: Valmora Jung ok so now what the patch is in and the server was supose to be back up an hour and 10 minutes ago so whats going on ? it was suposed to be up 10 minutes ago not 1 hour and 10 min
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:09:00 - [647] The patch is available here. It's quite a doozy, I recommend downloading it now, 770 megabytes. Anyways, back to eating lunch and waiting for the servers to come up.
Alkoorix	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:09:00 - [648] I wonder how many people i could troll by saying servers are up
Dhoom Hope	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:09:00 - [649] Look on this page for current update: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493094&page=3 Quote: We wanted to provide you with a thread to keep you updated on the deployment of Incursion 1.4. The deployment started at 09:00 UTC, and we expect to open Tranquility to the players at 15:00 UTC. We will use this thread to keep you updated throughout the process. Update at 10:39 UTC. All updates have been applied for Incursion 1.4 and Tranquility is up in testing mode. Update at 14:40 UTC. The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 16:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience.
Awesome Possum Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:09:00 - [650] Originally by: Valmora Jung ok so now what the patch is in and the server was supose to be back up an hour and 10 minutes ago so whats going on ? Its only 1508, servers were supposed to come up at 1500... where's this hour coming from ;) http://www.evetime.net/ ♥

Sadron The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:09:00 - [651] Noooooooooooo the change of the bra ! Anyway, good work ccp. I see you fixed alot of bad things and I'm happy of that. Keep up the work!
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [652] Originally by: elegance refined It never ceases to amaze me ! CCP has the world worse track record for getting anything done in the time they say they will ! yet every time , everyone *****es and whines like its a new thing ..... prediction #1 for them getting it done ------ 17:46 Ell O Ell, if you think CCP is the worst in the world regarding increases in downtime, you've clearly never played FFXI. Squeenix vs. CCP for extending downtime for a patch, Squeenix wins hands down EVERY time go read some patch threads on blue gartr
hammack unt	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [653] Originally by: Loki Feiht Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Loki Feiht \o/ its working u lied :( you checked :) lolz dont you just love patch day!
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [654] Originally by: jimmy random Originally by: Valmora Jung ok so now what the patch is in and the server was supose to be back up an hour and 10 minutes ago so whats going on ? it was suposed to be up 10 minutes ago not 1 hour and 10 min EveOnline EVE Online Incursion 1.4 deployment extended to 16:00 UTC while we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a very few players. 9 minutes ago Ok?
Vukasin Chandrakant	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [655] seriously guys ppl are posting it for 16:00 now. GMT/UTC.. if your eastern thats noon I.E 12:00 pm, just give it a rest, we will all be playing soon.
Tereliss Verr Minmatar Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [656] Where's EvE Gone? pass me the rum
Ivi Cakimirova	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [657] Originally by: tex sharky who cares about utc and stuff - just gimme my eve back! NAOWWW Rage !
tex sharky	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [658] since everyone knows eve is mainly chat let's play eve here on forum instead - it's not much different than eve during lagfest. logging... on... mining lasers on.... sup guys?
coolruningc	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [659] ccp broke it please stand buy for new eta till sever back up with possible hot fix lol
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [660] CCP's apologies are not satisfactory! They don't accept mine neither when I don't pay for subscription or such.. ISK, SP, ****, some free item or stfu!

Windex	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [661] Originally by: Replacement 234 I knew it was time to start going to the EA meeting (Eve Anonymous) when I got in trouble at work - (the US Army) when I tried to convince the first Sergeant to change the clocks in the Orderly Room.... Hello, my name is Replacement 234, and I'm..... I'm... still can't get it out.... I still like planning CQ or Staff Duty around Eve, no one understands why I like having 24h off ha!
sakiir	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [662] Incursion 1.4 deployment extended to 16:00 UTC while we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a very few players. check their twitter page http://twitter.com/EVEOnline
Versuvius Marii Ghosts of CKSSA Joined Brotherhood	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [663] Originally by: loves 2spooge :fase palm: Originally by: Valmora Jung ok so now what the patch is in and the server was supose to be back up an hour and 10 minutes ago so whats going on ? It's spelt face palm. Please don't mock his time error when you have the spelling ability of a Minmatar slave.
Kirirn	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:10:00 - [664] gah, wish the servers would come up, I have sanctums to.... oh, wait.
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:11:00 - [665] Servers up people stfu and get ingame
Captian Sobani	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:11:00 - [666] Originally by: Clone723 dosSantos I cant believe you guys/gals are so imature, all you can do is whine about "Oh the server is not up yet" or "the patch isn't fixing real issues" WTF grow a pair including the gals, and tanks the developers all their hard work they put into something like this, the unsung hearos of this all. Although you may pay to play this game, if it wasn't for the developers you wouldn't have a game to F*%$EN PLAY would you now, nobody forced you to do so. So STFU and an occasional Thank You would be nice to. Thaks guys for all your hard work, and keep up the good work. No we wouldnt have eve we would have another game to play, while ccp do over all a good job and are slowly getting better and better at it, i would prefer it if they over estimated the time required rather than underestimated it, its better than getting players hopes up and then not delievering.
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:11:00 - [667] Edited by: Gil Warden on 06/04/2011 15:11:32 Originally by: Dana Codie guys ffs in eve there is no summer time. eve is always GMT WINTERTIME so when ccp says 3pm gmt it means 3pm winter time. o7 It might be better if we (like CCP already does) started using the UTC designation instead. Also known as Zulu time. UTC doesn't have the confusion about daylight savings time. In general UTC is the same as GMT. When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:11:00 - [668] Mighty CareBear loves lunch Can I go with you
Alkoorix	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:11:00 - [669] Let me entertain you with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4IPy3Edo8&feature=related while we are waiting
Darteis Elosia Gallente PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G. DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:11:00 - [670] These threadnuaghts is fun to read while waiting for the servers to come up! Demotivationals please!

JeMeTTe Jouhinen	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:11:00 - [671] Originally by: Dhoom Hope Look on this page for current update: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493094&page=3 I thought this was the update thread... Oh well. At least I know what GMT is! ;)
Devine Madman	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:12:00 - [672] 17.12 hour CET wtf
Kawai	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:12:00 - [673] 16:00 will be 17:00 and then 18:00 and the chain is upp and running :D
Mistress Nadine	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:12:00 - [674] Originally by: Loki Feiht Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Loki Feiht \o/ its working u lied :( you checked :) LOL!... so did i
Loki Feiht	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:12:00 - [675] ccp should just put an hour or 2 on their planned releases, that way if its ever on time everyonbe will be happy ^^
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:12:00 - [676] Originally by: Draxind Servers up people stfu and get ingame I'm feeling a little picked on now... Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.
Eliniale	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:12:00 - [677] It's so funny watching people go crazy about the time, not being able to figure out the difference between UTC and GMT. MOAR DRAHMA :p
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:13:00 - [678] READ FIRST POST! KK, L8trz, trolling is fun but OMFG another hour of it? I could get a little fatter in that time. McD's / TacoHell here i come!!!!
Maximum Proffit	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:13:00 - [679] Originally by: Zaru Varin Edited by: Zaru Varin on 06/04/2011 15:09:00 Edited by: Zaru Varin on 06/04/2011 15:08:03 Originally by: Replacement 234 If you are really an Eve player - ALL your household clocks are set to Eve time. Lol I got 3 watches in here that runs on eve time to.. cell phone. handwatch and pc all runs dual time haha and pluss 1 to eve luve i work and sleep during DT a
Slave Belvar	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:13:00 - [680] Everytime someone says it's back up I get trolled.

Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:13:00 - [681] Amen Clone. Unfortunately the line between the game world and the real world is blurred by many. Add to that most people are asholes and have an entitlement attitude so they don't really see the hard work only what inconveniences them. May their arses grow flatter Originally by: Clone723 dosSantos I cant believe you guys/gals are so imature, all you can do is whine about "Oh the server is not up yet" or "the patch isn't fixing real issues" WTF grow a pair including the gals, and tanks the developers all their hard work they put into something like this, the unsung hearos of this all. Although you may pay to play this game, if it wasn't for the developers you wouldn't have a game to F*%$EN PLAY would you now, nobody forced you to do so. So STFU and an occasional Thank You would be nice to. Thaks guys for all your hard work, and keep up the good work.
Quindaster	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:13:00 - [682] I want to kill someone...
tex sharky	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:14:00 - [683] my child is crying, my wife is shouting - WE WANT EVE NOW!
WisdomPanda Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:14:00 - [684] Originally by: Aethyreal Originally by: elegance refined It never ceases to amaze me ! CCP has the world worse track record for getting anything done in the time they say they will ! yet every time , everyone ****es and whines like its a new thing ..... prediction #1 for them getting it done ------ 17:46 Ell O Ell, if you think CCP is the worst in the world regarding increases in downtime, you've clearly never played FFXI. Squeenix vs. CCP for extending downtime for a patch, Squeenix wins hands down EVERY time go read some patch threads on blue gartr You see they also got taken offline by the Japanese tsunami? Phoenix Server, Guuuu! ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.*
ryuuzanx Caldari Arbitrary Freedom	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:14:00 - [685] lets have a sing along while we wait! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! :D
Alkoori	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:14:00 - [686] Originally by: Slave Belvar Everytime someone says it's back up I get trolled. I am sorry :( il try to be a nice troll! trolls are people to ..... we can change ...
Kawai	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [687] Originally by: Carli Zandrya Amen Clone. Unfortunately the line between the game world and the real world is blurred by many. Add to that most people are asholes and have an entitlement attitude so they don't really see the hard work only what inconveniences them. May their arses grow flatter Originally by: Clone723 dosSantos I cant believe you guys/gals are so imature, all you can do is whine about "Oh the server is not up yet" or "the patch isn't fixing real issues" WTF grow a pair including the gals, and tanks the developers all their hard work they put into something like this, the unsung hearos of this all. Although you may pay to play this game, if it wasn't for the developers you wouldn't have a game to F*%$EN PLAY would you now, nobody forced you to do so. So STFU and an occasional Thank You would be nice to. Thaks guys for all your hard work, and keep up the good work. Ohh thats right i forgot ccp wokes for free! Dumbass
Ellia Ripley	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [688] lies all lies..., CCP HATES YOU FOR NOT BEEING A RUSSIAN BOT !
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [689] Originally by: Quindaster I want to kill someone... Grab Knife, look in mirror. Proceed! LoL JK :P
Miss NBT	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [690] Originally by: Quindaster I want to kill someone... i hope you mean in game like pvp O.o

0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [691] http://twitter.com/EVEOnline "Incursion 1.4 deployment extended to 16:00 UTC while we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a very few players." Official Forum Troll Translation: The Ohmerican CCP's forgot about DST. lol
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [692] OMG jita glitch, everything 1 isk!!! Hey ccp in the future just block the topic replies and copy paste the forums from previous patches. will save server electricity and be the exact same.
zaknafael	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [693] Hopefully she comes up soon, still for the amount of content in the game the infinite number of planets and that i probably spend more time gaming than I did working what the heck the extra couple hours of downtime here and there are worth it. The game keeps getting better and better over time, so I think they do a pretty good job. And yes I do pay to play LOL
Aramed Techton Minmatar Techton Industry	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [694] Originally by: ryuuzanx lets have a sing along while we wait! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! :D Outstanding.
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [695] Mighty CareBear loves to read the posts it's fun
loves 2spooge	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:15:00 - [696] hey i fixed it once i read it, i have the habit of not looking what i type due to watching overveiw and local so much waiting for the next killmail to pop up. :P Originally by: Versuvius Marii Originally by: loves 2spooge :fase palm: Originally by: Valmora Jung ok so now what the patch is in and the server was supose to be back up an hour and 10 minutes ago so whats going on ? It's spelt face palm. Please don't mock his time error when you have the spelling ability of a Minmatar slave.
Whizzer 2550	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:16:00 - [697] What the????????? This isnt my WoW site.Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Gabriel Zen	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:16:00 - [698] hey guys, i dont know if the update isnt finished or if there is a problem but iv been trying to log into eve an error window pops up saying: Incompatible (Version), and thats the same for the status of the server, am i just impatient or is something wrong?
Kantega	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:17:00 - [699] The current time and date in (UTC/GMT) is 15:15 6. april 2011 whats happening
JeMeTTe Jouhinen	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:17:00 - [700] Originally by: Eliniale It's so funny watching people go crazy about the time, not being able to figure out the difference between UTC and GMT. MOAR DRAHMA :p Actually, there is very little difference (unless you care about fractions of a second) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time Quote: In casual use, when fractions of a second are not important, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) can be considered equivalent to UTC or UT1. Saying "GMT" often implies either UTC or UT1 when used within informal or casual contexts. In technical contexts, usage of "GMT" is avoided; the unambiguous terminology "UTC" or "UT1" is preferred.

Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:17:00 - [701] stay down for 72 hours, I want more free SP
Tu'vok	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:17:00 - [702] I still get a message incompatible version, and when i try to download the patch manual it says that i have already the latest version. Is the new patch deployed?
Clone723 dosSantos	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:17:00 - [703] Originally by: Funmaster Bob I will respond to the 'think of the unsung heroes'/dev comment.. They are PAID to do their job, they dont do it out of love. Also, we PAY to play this game, its not like we're gifted with it. I understand the need for taking the servers down for maintenance and patches, but would you be so forgiving if it was someone coming to repair a window to your house, or the Police turning up 15 minutes late? I thank CCP for their efforts with EVE but releasing an 'uptime' and not sticking to it... So you saying when you go out to the shops and buy something and after you have paid for it, you don't say "Thank You" ???
Chui Menta	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:17:00 - [704] Originally by: Whizzer 2550 What the????????? This isnt my WoW site.Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo Shotgun sound
Tassadar IV	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:17:00 - [705] 17:00 UTC now :( It begins.
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:17:00 - [706] Originally by: Gabriel Zen hey guys, i dont know if the update isnt finished or if there is a problem but iv been trying to log into eve an error window pops up saying: Incompatible (Version), and thats the same for the status of the server, am i just impatient or is something wrong? Problem = noob just wait
Mr Manufa Ministry of War	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [707] Originally by: Quindaster I want to kill someone... Try Chuck Norris !
HoWaa	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [708] inb4 inb4 extended downtime on extended downtime
Alkoorix	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [709] Edited by: Alkoorix on 06/04/2011 15:19:21 i am a patient man .... after all i play eve ...
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [710] Originally by: Gabriel Zen hey guys, i dont know if the update isnt finished or if there is a problem but iv been trying to log into eve an error window pops up saying: Incompatible (Version), and thats the same for the status of the server, am i just impatient or is something wrong? u sir have provided a fresh batch of trolling

Sofa KingWicked	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [711] I lol'd at the Square Enix comment cuz its true. Gilgamesh server ftw
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [712] Originally by: ryuuzanx lets have a sing along while we wait! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! :D A thousand sanctums sit on the grid.. A thousand sanctums are there! Take one down... Salvage around.. 999 sanctums sit on the grid! Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.
pix101 Pleadians Inc.	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [713] Edited by: pix101 on 06/04/2011 15:19:27 If you've applied the patch already you should get Incompatible (build) Another thread from the devs thats actually being updated. Just luv multiple sources. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493094
Sheba Egnald	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [714] read
elegance refined	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:18:00 - [715] Starship Troopers / a fat sack of the wacky tabacky / and TACOS ! It's a great way to pass the time
Wastelander Miccey	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:19:00 - [716] Still Incompatible? Still Down?
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:19:00 - [717] translated? Originally by: Kawai Ohh thats right i forgot ccp wokes for free! Dumbass
Crank Smith	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:19:00 - [718] When it comes up "Incompatible version" just means you ain't got the update yet, just sit back and enjoy a coffee and cig, plus this topic thread in itself is something to read. Watching people freak bout the time :
SolarDancer	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:19:00 - [719] OMG we will all die... eve still down for some time more
Horacius Clay	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [720] Mmmm, go out into the sun and do some yardwork or wait for Eve to come back online? decisions decisions...

Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [721] Simple solution to all those who wish to complain about a hard working company fixing all the issues I have read about and now wish to complain that the very issues late brought up are being fixed. Simple solution to those who are disgruntled with CCP. Simple solution that may actually require you to get off your assets and do something your way and stand in CCP shoes for a change. What's this solution? Quit playing. Get an education. Make your own game. Listen to the complaints. Think back. Understand. I've played many a game. WoW, Shaiya, Fallout 3, Voyage Century, Perfect World, the list is quite long... I've read many a forum because of these numerous games. All the complaints are the same. All the complaints have become mundane. (For all you uneducamated folk out there, Mundane = boring) CCP, according to the forums of the past and THEIR complaints, is doing what is needed to try to satisfy the majority. As for the laggers out there. Might I suggest two things before you decide to bi*ch about lag. One, check your system. Two, check your net bandwidth. Both have a tremendous effect on lag issues. Ever wonder why you got ganked and the fella on the other side is laughing? He saw you. It's not always the game company's fault for lag. I lag with 100 people in a system, don't even get to see my ship for a few jumps. But, I know what my issue is. So, before you complain about my open understanding and broad way of thinking ('cause I know I'm gonna get trolled, it's part of the dietary need of the failed), perhaps you should think about how hard this company has worked for you to give you a game to enjoy. If you don't like the company or game so much. Simple solution. DON'T PLAY It would relieve a lot of us of the unnecessary space you take up in the virtual world... To CCP. I've played for only a couple of weeks and love the EVE universe much more than I did a lot of other games. All I have to say is, keep up the great work and I hope to see you in the 'Verse one day. Xan
45thtiger 0109	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [722] Guys while CCP is doing what they do best and i will not say what it is. Let them make sure that TQ is going to run fine after the patch. In the mean time play another game or do something in Real Life. I will be playing Killing Floor while TQ is down. There is Real Life after EVE.
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [723] Originally by: Sheba Egnald read (switchrage) http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493094&page=4 (/switchrage)
Johnny Ringo Stargazer Exploration Company Transmission Lost	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [724] How about a haiku slam whilst we wait? Here's mine: Waiting on servers I know the patch will be borked Eve is my life - meh
Reeche	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [725] POST COMPLAINTS HERE https://testforums.evegate.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=287
Sofa KingWicked	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [726] Originally by: elegance refined Starship Troopers / a fat sack of the wacky tabacky / and TACOS ! It's a great way to pass the time QFT
nawor100 Under Heavy Fire	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [727] im bored reading the patch notes hurry up eve i havnt got the patience when it says return to service 1500 on my screen and its 1620 ish GMT and still no sign of download For Those Still Fighting ............... The War Never Ends
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [728] Originally by: Sheba Egnald read that thread aint as fun
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:20:00 - [729] LOL exactly , i know exactly this term ( the Police turning up 15 minutes late? ) Security Officer , home alarm sounds while on patrol me and my supervisor arrive at the home , front door wide open , police were called from our dispatcher same time we were ,the city has 30 cops onduty at any given time , there are only 2 of us , 1 east side of town the other 1 west side , we waited 2 hours for the cops to show up and clear the home good thing nothing was really going down or even the house may have not been there by the time they showed Originally by: Funmaster Bob I will respond to the 'think of the unsung heroes'/dev comment.. They are PAID to do their job, they dont do it out of love. Also, we PAY to play this game, its not like we're gifted with it. I understand the need for taking the servers down for maintenance and patches, but would you be so forgiving if it was someone coming to repair a window to your house, or the Police turning up 15 minutes late? I thank CCP for their efforts with EVE but releasing an 'uptime' and not sticking to it...
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:21:00 - [730] Mighty CareBear here The time is NOW .. who cares LOL .. the server will be up when it's up give it a rest

BEER O'CLOCK	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:21:00 - [731] Originally by: Crank Smith When it comes up "Incompatible version" just means you ain't got the update yet, just sit back and enjoy a coffee and cig, plus this topic thread in itself is something to read. Watching people freak bout the time : man i aint ever met so many ppl who cant tell the time ';..;'
zaknafael	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:21:00 - [732] Originally by: Carli Zandrya Amen Clone. Unfortunately the line between the game world and the real world is blurred by many. Add to that most people are asholes and have an entitlement attitude so they don't really see the hard work only what inconveniences them. May their arses grow flatter Originally by: Clone723 dosSantos I cant believe you guys/gals are so imature, all you can do is whine about "Oh the server is not up yet" or "the patch isn't fixing real issues" WTF grow a pair including the gals, and tanks the developers all their hard work they put into something like this, the unsung hearos of this all. Although you may pay to play this game, if it wasn't for the developers you wouldn't have a game to F*%$EN PLAY would you now, nobody forced you to do so. So STFU and an occasional Thank You would be nice to. amen sister Thaks guys for all your hard work, and keep up the good work.
Prymus AC	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:22:00 - [733] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493094
JeMeTTe Jouhinen	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:22:00 - [734] Originally by: nawor100 im bored reading the patch notes hurry up eve i havnt got the patience when it says return to service 1500 on my screen and its 1620 ish GMT and still no sign of download Idiot, 1620?? It's 15:21 GMT atm. And the patch is delayed until 16:00.
Sheba Egnald	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:22:00 - [735] Originally by: Draxind Originally by: Sheba Egnald read that thread aint as fun I know sorry :(
loves 2spooge	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:22:00 - [736] your taxes at work Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK Originally by: Crank Smith When it comes up "Incompatible version" just means you ain't got the update yet, just sit back and enjoy a coffee and cig, plus this topic thread in itself is something to read. Watching people freak bout the time : man i aint ever met so many ppl who cant tell the time ';..;'
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:23:00 - [737] Originally by: Sheba Egnald read Why not put this info on main? Once again, epic fail.
Tassadar IV	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:23:00 - [738] THIS IS MADNESS
Slave Belvar	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:23:00 - [739] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist For anyone not watching the OP for updates: The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 16:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience. From: Originally by: pix101 Edited by: pix101 on 06/04/2011 15:19:27 If you've applied the patch already you should get Incompatible (build) Another thread from the devs thats actually being updated. Just luv multiple sources. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493094
Kantega	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:23:00 - [740] Originally by: Gabriel Zen hey guys, i dont know if the update isnt finished or if there is a problem but iv been trying to log into eve an error window pops up saying: Incompatible (Version), and thats the same for the status of the server, am i just impatient or is something wrong? All of the above :P

SpacePhenix	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:23:00 - [741] O***KK whats the delay.... No info anywhere ....why is the server stil down....its now 20 later than expekted extended down time.....So where is the info ......when can i expekt to play the game that i pay for.....
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:23:00 - [742] Originally by: Sofa KingWicked I lol'd at the Square Enix comment cuz its true. Gilgamesh server ftw Team Shiva!! ^^
nawor100 Under Heavy Fire	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [743] Originally by: 45thtiger 0109 Guys while CCP is doing what they do best and i will not say what it is. Let them make sure that TQ is going to run fine after the patch. In the mean time play another game or do something in Real Life. I will be playing Killing Floor while TQ is down. There is Real Life after EVE. working in industry where if i told the clients it would be working and its not working an hour and half later without tellig them why its late. That is one crap provider For Those Still Fighting ............... The War Never Ends
Pyro Miner Dutch Powerrr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [744] Originally by: Loki Feiht ccp should just put an hour or 2 on their planned releases, that way if its ever on time everyonbe will be happy ^^ wel they alrdy did ;o mayby they need to make it 6 hours . . Next Nyx bpc's : me 1 - 22-03-2011 me 1 - 31-03-2011 me 1~~Reserved Aeon Me1~ 27-04-2011
Ivi Cakimirova	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [745] Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Originally by: nawor100 im bored reading the patch notes hurry up eve i havnt got the patience when it says return to service 1500 on my screen and its 1620 ish GMT and still no sign of download Idiot, 1620?? It's 15:21 GMT atm. And the patch is delayed until 16:00. HAHAHAHAHa some ppl live in EVE and so confused ...
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [746] Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [747] LOL that's so funny ! Originally by: Aramed Techton Originally by: ryuuzanx lets have a sing along while we wait! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! :D Outstanding.
Alkoori	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [748] Edited by: Alkoori on 06/04/2011 15:26:58 reading this therd is more fun then playing eve so i aint complaining
Crank Smith	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [749] Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK Originally by: Crank Smith When it comes up "Incompatible version" just means you ain't got the update yet, just sit back and enjoy a coffee and cig, plus this topic thread in itself is something to read. Watching people freak bout the time : man i aint ever met so many ppl who cant tell the time ';..;' Yeah I know its crazy ain't it, but sure thats life
BEER O'CLOCK	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [750] maybe we should start a schooling thread Originally by: loves 2spooge your taxes at work Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK Originally by: Crank Smith When it comes up "Incompatible version" just means you ain't got the update yet, just sit back and enjoy a coffee and cig, plus this topic thread in itself is something to read. Watching people freak bout the time : man i aint ever met so many ppl who cant tell the time ';..;'

Ellia Ripley	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [751] Lies all lies ! CCP HATES YOU FOR NOT BEEING RUSSIAN BOTS !
Naveah Fade	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:24:00 - [752] Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Originally by: nawor100 im bored reading the patch notes hurry up eve i havnt got the patience when it says return to service 1500 on my screen and its 1620 ish GMT and still no sign of download Idiot, 1620?? It's 15:21 GMT atm. And the patch is delayed until 16:00. Clocks went forward, idiot.
Traxis Ido	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:25:00 - [753] Originally by: Sofa KingWicked I lol'd at the Square Enix comment cuz its true. Gilgamesh server ftw Same here, Valefor server myself (originally Kujata).
Sheba Egnald	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:25:00 - [754] Originally by: OldWolf69 Originally by: Sheba Egnald read Why not put this info on main? Once again, epic fail. Yep thats why this forum doesnt work :( no organisation!
Thue Shadow	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:25:00 - [755] maybe ccp is drunk i know i should be after reading this forum
Alexandrlll	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:25:00 - [756] 37 minutes waiting, tired
Rothana Haldane Minmatar Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:25:00 - [757] Sigh, another long wait for a patch that really isn't going to help with the things we are concerned with.......
IceElf1	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [758] Is it me or are they late?
Fragum Tempestas	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [759] Patience Patience Patience ... and more Patience and perhaps a nice cup of tea ... sit in the garden .. experience nature for a moment do the dishes ... live ..... and look forward to EVE with a smile not a frown
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [760] Originally by: 0'o'0 Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q

Tassadar IV	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [761]
Awesome Possum Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [762] Originally by: ryuuzanx lets have a sing along while we wait! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! :D damnit that's going in my profile. ♥
Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [763] Originally by: Rothana Haldane Sigh, another long wait for a patch that really isn't going to help with the things we are concerned with....... No amount of wishing in the world will ever bring that kestrel back.
Replacement 234	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [764] Edited by: Replacement 234 on 06/04/2011 15:27:05 gee whiz - so many adult faces and so much childish whining. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. At least the 19 pages of trying to decide what time it is (the time that is on the top of each post, duh...) now I understand what I hear whenever I get into a trading hub from all the velcro players stuck to the station - You got repped, did not did too did not did too - I shot you first, did not did too ad nauseum
CreamPie Sister Hanaya	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [765] Small reimbursement for the delay would be in order :)
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:26:00 - [766] these forum posts are the only thing keeping me around tbh or id be off doing less funny crap lol
Ms Reel Khunthole	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:27:00 - [767] its 15:30 right now servers are still down, here comes and extension of 5 hours
Aramed Techton Minmatar Techton Industry	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:27:00 - [768] Originally by: Alkoori http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4IPy3Edo8&feature=related here is some fun while waiting =) HAHAHA!
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:27:00 - [769] Mighty CareBear says CCP I want steak and lobster for my wait
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:27:00 - [770] Originally by: IceElf1 Is it me or are they late? No, it's just you, the rest of us are just writing here for the lulz. When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.

Lennier Kor	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:27:00 - [771] From extensive and regretful reading of some of these posts, I hereby conclude that intelligent life does not exist on this forum or on this planet. SETI Institute Joe Schmoe
loves 2spooge	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:27:00 - [772] We dont want them to smart they will stop mining then we have to build our own ships Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK maybe we should start a schooling thread Originally by: loves 2spooge your taxes at work Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK Originally by: Crank Smith When it comes up "Incompatible version" just means you ain't got the update yet, just sit back and enjoy a coffee and cig, plus this topic thread in itself is something to read. Watching people freak bout the time : man i aint ever met so many ppl who cant tell the time ';..;'
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:27:00 - [773] CCP = CAN'T CONNECT TO PATCH !
Gnosis Darine	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:28:00 - [774] Originally by: Tassadar IV THIS IS MADNESS Madness...... This.. Is!... PATCH DAY!!!
StarshipAI Independent Traders and Builders MPA	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:28:00 - [775] Just go download the patch from the main page, and get rid of the Incompatible (Version) message. It's on the left somewhere.
xhaloboyx	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:28:00 - [776] Originally by: ryuuzanx lets have a sing along while we wait! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! :D I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here is mine This old Sansha he played cruel. He went out and stole planet goo. With a clip,clap,brrrrap give the Succubus a bomb. This old Sansha went crying home. Why isnt there a thread for these yet
JeMeTTe Jouhinen	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [777] Originally by: Naveah Fade Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Idiot, 1620?? It's 15:21 GMT atm. And the patch is delayed until 16:00. Clocks went forward, idiot. The clocks in England went forward, but GMT/UTC doesn't, IT'S A TIME STANDARD! London is currently GMT/UTC +1 (Yes, GMT and UTC are not technically the same, but within a fraction of a second, they are) Seriously, doesn't anyone know what GMT is? Does everyone assume that GMT == the time in the UK?
bigdaddad	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [778] info please xxx
Sheba Egnald	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [779] Edited by: Sheba Egnald on 06/04/2011 15:29:51 down till 6pm now folks CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance Posted - 2011.04.06 09:04:00 - [1] - Quote Report We wanted to provide you with a thread to keep you updated on the deployment of Incursion 1.4. The deployment started at 09:00 UTC, and we expect to open Tranquility to the players at 15:00 UTC. We will use this thread to keep you updated throughout the process. Update at 10:39 UTC. All updates have been applied for Incursion 1.4 and Tranquility is up in testing mode. Update at 14:40 UTC. The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 16:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience. Update at 15:25 UTC. Downtime has been extended till 18:00 UTC as we continue to investigate and fix the edge-case issue. Thank you for your patience and we apologize for this inconvenience.
Glacier Gal	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [780] Steak, lobster, and King Crab..oh yes...

Michael Vermatt	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [781] 18:00?? sad face
Daenna Chrysi Amarr Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [782] "New estimated time for Tranquility and Incursion 1.4: 18:00 UTC. Your patience is legendary and we appreciate it! #eveonline #tweetfleet" OK, who jinxed it?
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [783] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493094 Update at 15:25 UTC. Downtime has been extended till 18:00 UTC as we continue to investigate and fix the edge-case issue. Thank you for your patience and we apologize for this inconvenience. When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
DeathPaw	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [784] Whiners have just as much right to comment as us non-whiners. It's human nature.. as is the compelling desire to give others our "good" advice!
nig kestral	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [785] dammit need my eve fix nooooooow
Draxind Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [786] Originally by: Gnosis Darine Originally by: Tassadar IV THIS IS MADNESS Madness...... This.. Is!... PATCH DAY!!! hahaha epic good sir.. just epic
mineralez	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:29:00 - [787] Hey. I just wanted to say what a great game....I realise there are some moanin gits on this forum..."whinging about this that and the other, where is the patch and what time do you call this for an update blah blah blah",. You would think these people have nothing else less boring instead to do?? Hanging their every second of life on EVE and the updates...I presume the staff at ccp are probably sitting in CCP HQ having coffee and Icelandic cakes, just to **** ppl off ...I DONT THINK SO EITHER , they are doing their best, so cut em some slack and I am quite sure the game will be on asap.... A nooob, but a patient nooob!
Mordikye Beyond The Gates	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:30:00 - [788] Originally by: Miso Hawnee Originally by: Rothana Haldane Sigh, another long wait for a patch that really isn't going to help with the things we are concerned with....... No amount of wishing in the world will ever bring that kestrel back. LMFAO .................................................. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Alkoori	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:30:00 - [789] Edited by: Alkoori on 06/04/2011 15:30:17 Originally by: Aramed Techton Originally by: Alkoori http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4IPy3Edo8&feature=related here is some fun while waiting =) HAHAHA! He is god amongst us mortals lol heres another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWBvdZa_Nno
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:30:00 - [790] EveOnline EVE Online New estimated time for Tranquility and Incursion 1.4: 18:00 UTC. Your patience is legendary and we appreciate it! #eveonline #tweetfleet OUR PATIENCE it is legendary.

taque	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:30:00 - [791] Quote: Is it me or are they late? my world would collide when ccp would NOT be late. isn't it kinda like a tradition. you know..the waiting time, the expected whining about waiting and the ppl that whine about whiners ofcourse :) i guess i'm one of the players that is very impatient too. got to find a way not to think about the patch and not to get upset when the damn game still doesn't work and the downtime is extended again. you got to see me when Eve is online again ^^
Evalena Xibir	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:30:00 - [792] Here's something to enjoy while waitin' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCcaizeVwho
galrizian Minmatar Warp Ghost's	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:30:00 - [793] AAAGGGHHHHHHHHHHH help im withdrawn.......... i need my eve............. sick of face book an you tube that stuff only keeps me goin for so long.........w8..............................is that ?........ nope eveon pop window say tranquiaty off line still :(
45thtiger 0109	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:31:00 - [794] BTW dont forget that you have skills training while CCP are doing the patch so all is not lost.
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:31:00 - [795] Mighty CareBear says CCP keep us waiting I'm having so much fun reading the posts here lol
BloodRaven117	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:31:00 - [796] Originally by: Naveah Fade Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Originally by: nawor100 im bored reading the patch notes hurry up eve i havnt got the patience when it says return to service 1500 on my screen and its 1620 ish GMT and still no sign of download Idiot, 1620?? It's 15:21 GMT atm. And the patch is delayed until 16:00. Clocks went forward, idiot. Perhaps that is so in the northern hemisphere but in the southern hemishpere we recently went back one hour.
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:31:00 - [797] Originally by: Alkoori Edited by: Alkoori on 06/04/2011 15:30:17 Originally by: Aramed Techton Originally by: Alkoori http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4IPy3Edo8&feature=related here is some fun while waiting =) HAHAHA! He is god amongst us mortals lol heres another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWBvdZa_Nno Thought it was funny, but if a guy tried that with me, I'd smack him
brutus elementus Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:31:00 - [798] Edited by: brutus elementus on 06/04/2011 15:32:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_rnoR_wFU
CorvairKid	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:32:00 - [799] wouldnt it be nice if the CCP gave us an up date as to WTF is going on i got 15:30PM UTC (GMT) and no eve I WANT MY EVE!!!!
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:32:00 - [800] Edited by: Valmora Jung on 06/04/2011 15:32:17 Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Originally by: Naveah Fade Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Idiot, 1620?? It's 15:21 GMT atm. And the patch is delayed until 16:00. Clocks went forward, idiot. The clocks in England went forward, but GMT/UTC doesn't, IT'S A TIME STANDARD! London is currently GMT/UTC +1 (Yes, GMT and UTC are not technically the same, but within a fraction of a second, they are) Seriously, doesn't anyone know what GMT is? Does everyone assume that GMT == the time in the UK? Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is a term originally referring to mean solar time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, London. It is arguably the same as Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) and when this is viewed as a time zone the name Greenwich Mean Time is especially used by bodies connected with the United Kingdom, such as the BBC World Service,[1] the Royal Navy, the Met Office and others. Before the introduction of UTC on 1 January 1972 Greenwich Mean Time (also known as Zulu time) was the same as Universal Time (UT) which is a standard astronomical concept used in many technical fields. Astronomers no longer use the term "Greenwich Mean Time". In the UK, GMT is the official time only during winter; during summer British Summer Time is used. GMT is the same as Western European Time.[2] Noon Greenwich Mean Time is not necessarily the moment when the noon sun crosses the Greenwich meridian (and reaches its highest point in the sky at Greenwich) because of Earth's uneven speed in its elliptic orbit and its axial tilt. This event may be up to 16 minutes away from noon GMT (a discrepancy known as the equation of time). The fictitious mean sun is the annual average of this nonuniform motion of the true Sun, necessitating the inclusion of mean in Greenwich Mean Time. Historically the term GMT has been used with two different conventions, sometimes numbering hours starting at midnight and sometimes starting at noon. The more specific terms UT and UTC do not share this ambiguity, always referring to midnight as zero hours.

Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:32:00 - [801] Originally by: 45thtiger 0109 BTW dont forget that you have skills training while CCP are doing the patch so all is not lost. I thought we were supposed to pause out skill queues before patching started.... ok, ok...jk :) When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:32:00 - [802] Ok this is really whats going on. they are logging all the bots trying to continually log on. so everyone trying to log on will get banned.
Dark Shadowstar	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:32:00 - [803] "For anyone not watching the OP for updates: The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 16:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience." Why don't they put it on the log in screen? Why don't they put it on this forum? it is the one that you are directed to from the log in screen?
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:32:00 - [804] Nips in nips out shake them all about, do the pervy pokey, do the pervy pokey. Give your left nip a pinch, get your right nip out squeeze them both hard and give a little shout. Dooooo the nippy pokey. Dooooo the nippy pokey.
icantthinkofagoodname	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:32:00 - [805] 1800...ok now I want dessert too..lol
touzu	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:33:00 - [806] this sucks so bad i mean yeah we always are patient but we do not have annother option!!! it would be really nice if you guys would be on time for once. here in germany we tend to do that
Coppy Scesa	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:33:00 - [807] Hello again pod pilots. Just an FYI that the OP has been updated again and downtime has been extended to 18:00 UTC.
Gnosis Darine	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:33:00 - [808] Originally by: Draxind Originally by: Gnosis Darine Originally by: Tassadar IV THIS IS MADNESS Madness...... This.. Is!... PATCH DAY!!! hahaha epic good sir.. just epic Thankyou good sir :D
alamidea	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:33:00 - [809] How long has this game been out? nd ccp still cant come up ontime after a patch. well at least i made 50 bucks from a friend. i guess thats one good thing.
Naveah Fade	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:33:00 - [810] Originally by: Valmora Jung Edited by: Valmora Jung on 06/04/2011 15:32:17 Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Originally by: Naveah Fade Originally by: JeMeTTe Jouhinen Idiot, 1620?? It's 15:21 GMT atm. And the patch is delayed until 16:00. Clocks went forward, idiot. The clocks in England went forward, but GMT/UTC doesn't, IT'S A TIME STANDARD! London is currently GMT/UTC +1 (Yes, GMT and UTC are not technically the same, but within a fraction of a second, they are) Seriously, doesn't anyone know what GMT is? Does everyone assume that GMT == the time in the UK? Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is a term originally referring to mean solar time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, London. It is arguably the same as Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) and when this is viewed as a time zone the name Greenwich Mean Time is especially used by bodies connected with the United Kingdom, such as the BBC World Service,[1] the Royal Navy, the Met Office and others. Before the introduction of UTC on 1 January 1972 Greenwich Mean Time (also known as Zulu time) was the same as Universal Time (UT) which is a standard astronomical concept used in many technical fields. Astronomers no longer use the term "Greenwich Mean Time". In the UK, GMT is the official time only during winter; during summer British Summer Time is used. GMT is the same as Western European Time.[2] Noon Greenwich Mean Time is not necessarily the moment when the noon sun crosses the Greenwich meridian (and reaches its highest point in the sky at Greenwich) because of Earth's uneven speed in its elliptic orbit and its axial tilt. This event may be up to 16 minutes away from noon GMT (a discrepancy known as the equation of time). The fictitious mean sun is the annual average of this nonuniform motion of the true Sun, necessitating the inclusion of mean in Greenwich Mean Time. Historically the term GMT has been used with two different conventions, sometimes numbering hours starting at midnight and sometimes starting at noon. The more specific terms UT and UTC do not share this ambiguity, always referring to midnight as zero hours. Well then, thats perfectly clear, good job.

Sofa KingWicked	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:33:00 - [811] I hope we get free skill points again <3
Kaltarim Minmatar Sonoran Sun Legion Eternal Strife	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:33:00 - [812] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntm1YfehK7U
Crank Smith	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:33:00 - [813] Damn, so it aint for another few hours that the CCP dudes will be releasing the new patch i hear?
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:34:00 - [814] An edge case is a problem or situation that occurs only at an extreme (maximum or minimum) operating parameter. For example, a stereo speaker might distort audio when played at its maximum rated volume, even in the absence of other extreme settings or conditions. An edge case can be expected or unexpected. In engineering, the process of planning for and gracefully addressing edge cases can be a significant task, and one that may be overlooked or underestimated. Non-trivial edge cases can result in a failure of the object being engineered that may not have been imagined during the design phase or anticipated as possible during normal use. For this reason, attempts to formalize good engineering practices often incorporate information about dealing with edge cases. interesting...
Bubanni	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:34:00 - [815] I want at least 500k skill points for this CCP...
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:34:00 - [816] Originally by: Sofa KingWicked I hope we get free skill points again <3 No sir. Your thoughts are wandering outside certain limits.
SVTNeato	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:34:00 - [817] Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: 0'o'0 Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q YES!
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:34:00 - [818] Edited by: Valmora Jung on 06/04/2011 15:37:48 Originally by: Dark Shadowstar "For anyone not watching the OP for updates: The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 16:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience." Why don't they put it on the log in screen? Why don't they put it on this forum? it is the one that you are directed to from the log in screen? LOL who cares if it affects a SMALL NUMBER let the rest of us play and the SMALL NUMBER deal with it
galrizian Minmatar Warp Ghost's	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:35:00 - [819] hang on... 18.00 gmt now ?. wtf no srsly is this true ?.
Psicho	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:35:00 - [820] Edited by: Psicho on 06/04/2011 15:35:52 Originally by: Alkoorix Edited by: Alkoorix on 06/04/2011 15:19:21 i am a patient man .... after all i play eve ... good point :) not yet, 17:35 GMT now Edit: mmm, it is me or the forum clock hour isn't working?

BEER O'CLOCK	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:35:00 - [821] i love it!! Originally by: SVTNeato Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: 0'o'0 Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q YES!
sakiir	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:35:00 - [822] The first rule of PATCH DAY is you don't talk about PATCH DAY !
Nellz	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:36:00 - [823] Over 35 minutes overdue, What have you been doing since server went down? I've been playing my didge non stop, my lips now look like I've eaten the worlds hottest chilli and hurt QQ..
Avectus	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:36:00 - [824] well..i dont know where to start really. why keep taking stuff OUT of this great game,first ccp nerfed the salvage from ppl in high sec,now we are loseing the sanctums,and havens in our lil system? wtf,ccp needs to stop taking stuff from the ppl who make this game as awesome as it is. "if it AINT broke DONT fix it",new ded sites? so theres actually gonna be deds that have proper numbers like 1/10 2/10 3/10...etc? that right there should have been fixed a long time ago...in a galaxy far far away :)
Kaltarim Minmatar Sonoran Sun Legion Eternal Strife	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:36:00 - [825] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPBYLDqUwQk&feature=related
Bartyr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:36:00 - [826] CCP and Affiliates, As i sit here and watch some of these guys complain about problems that I am sure that they take no active part in fixing, and probably overload their own line with 3-5 characters at a time, then complain about lag!!! I do also stress people to look into what is involved in allocating resources to support a massive amount of players at a time. To keep it simple we love what you guys do and appreciate the intense effort that you reflect. I dont't post very often unless I see something offensive or a problem that I can resolve. So anyway don't let these boneheads drag you down and keep doing what you're doing cause the rest of the us that are not running their mouths are perfectly content. Thanks Again for well-rendered, continuously evolving Universe that you let us play in!! Rok
Evalena Xibir	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:36:00 - [827] "New estimated time for Tranquility and Incursion 1.4: 18:00 UTC. Your patience is legendary and we appreciate it!" http://twitter.com/EVEOnline
Hydraka	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:36:00 - [828] Originally by: galrizian hang on... 18.00 gmt now ?. wtf no srsly is this true ?. Confirming it's true.
Karren M	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:36:00 - [829] Originally by: glue bag Alduin when i try to login it just says incompleat version? it is pased 1500 any sugestions. Look at your Timcode when you posted brah. Besides that.. the front page on Evegate says 1800 now so, gonna be another 2 hours.. I can't wait! Woohoo!
Kasyan Inkunen	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:36:00 - [830] Still waiting... We just have to wait until our fav' game is back online !

Drake III	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:37:00 - [831] Also we cant forget that the large earthquakes have caused the earths orbit to rotate miliseconds slower. Add those up and it cumulates fast.
PryMary Minmatar Solar Nexus.	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:37:00 - [832] Time: 15:36 UTC - Server Offline - Explanation or ETA of server going up = none. Regards, PryMary ☻♥
D'Kelle	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:37:00 - [833] Edited by: D''Kelle on 06/04/2011 15:37:39 In the words of the now imortal; Fodder, "is it fixed yet",,,, "is it fixed yeahhht",,,, "is it fixed,,; YET!"
Alkoori	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:37:00 - [834] Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: Alkoori Edited by: Alkoori on 06/04/2011 15:30:17 Originally by: Aramed Techton Originally by: Alkoori http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4IPy3Edo8&feature=related here is some fun while waiting =) HAHAHA! He is god amongst us mortals lol heres another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWBvdZa_Nno Thought it was funny, but if a guy tried that with me, I'd smack him i dont think he is targeting women with the videos hehe
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:37:00 - [835] NO APOLOGIES ACCEPTED CCP. WE WANT FREE SP, FREE ISK, T*TS OR STFU
Cyber Shyster Amarr Hotter Than Phyre Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:37:00 - [836] Everyone should just get on Singularity! There Problem fixed . Eve withdrawls remmedied. Carry on. [url=http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=702873][/url]
mamon666	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:37:00 - [837] it looks bad :(
Yuri Kuznetsov	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:37:00 - [838] In all honesty, you really need to give props to CCP for the way they handle their customers on patch day. Not only do they get updates if they are going to be longer than their displayed time, but they aren't ridiculous updates like 30 minutes later when they know they will take 3 hours. Anyone who has ever dealt with World of Warcraft and Blizzard on some of their patch days know the horror that is coming back to the computer every hour only to realize that the patch deployment has been delayed another hour. At least now, with their update at 18:00 UTC, you have some time to do things like maybe errands, clean the house a bit or whatever. With Blizzard, they keep you on the edge of your seat for hours on end making you think that you're gunna be able to log on within the hour, only to be told it's going to be yet another hour. Blizzard has done this so many times on patch days that they just no longer give ETAs because they NEVER meet them. Also have to realize that CCP is dealing with a very large server and patches don't always go as planned. They also aren't the largest company. So, again, props to CCP and their customer service values. Would gladly pay a yearly fee for all my accounts if I didn't have the ISK before I even thought of paying for even one month of WoW.
Silath Silverpine	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:38:00 - [839] Delayed till 18:00... bleh. Nothing to be done I suppose. -Passes out cigs and coffee.- A patient line of thought did cross, One dreary April morn, Thread full of naught for CCP, But angsty rage and scorn. With sigh and weary eye, To youtube I did turn. New yogscast episodes for me to watch, Quicker to make ornery time burn.
lotek cranium	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:38:00 - [840] AAAAAAAAHH, 14 minutes left on carrier skill. Better drink another Beer in the sun )

AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:39:00 - [841] I loves it I do :) Nothing unusual on this thread for a patch day however I feel some of the whiners have been unanswered and deserve a response really :P the posts IÆm talking about is those asking for refund/compensation for the downtime, normally some smarty pants throws out some simple maths to explain what they would be entitled to resulting in just a few cents, please oh please can someone post that message with the calculations I love it :) OH WAIT I HAVE TIME HERE GOES $15 per month x 12 months = $180 $180 divided by 365 days in a year = 0.49 cents per day 0.49 cents divided by 24 hours in a day = 0.02 cents per hour Downtime at worst going to be 10 hours 10 hours x 0.02 cents = 0.20 cents refund due, mail me your paypal account and IÆll send it right away :) Look at me maa i did some maths yay for me
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:39:00 - [842] Edited by: Saithe on 06/04/2011 15:39:24 in the meantime, who wants to help me create a g15/19 plugin for eve since ccp only officially released that crap for that crap-tacular dell called alienware. ive got the idea and design, just dont know how to code for the g15/19 utilizing active information and api pulling
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:39:00 - [843] Bad day to rage quit World of Tanks I guess...
elegance refined	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:39:00 - [844] Edited by: elegance refined on 06/04/2011 15:39:56 And now you know why ccp does not charge for patches ! oh sorry expansions !
Nellz	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:39:00 - [845] 18:00?! /me Picks up his didgeridoo and sits outside to annoy the hell out of teh neighbours again!!! o7!
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:39:00 - [846] Originally by: Hydraka Originally by: galrizian hang on... 18.00 gmt now ?. wtf no srsly is this true ?. Confirming it's true. f.... that sticks it at 3am for me.... eve... sleep... eve... sleep.... decision making my sleep deprived brain hurt
BloodRaven117	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:39:00 - [847] Edited by: BloodRaven117 on 06/04/2011 15:40:34 Originally by: Psicho Edited by: Psicho on 06/04/2011 15:35:52 Originally by: Alkoorix Edited by: Alkoorix on 06/04/2011 15:19:21 i am a patient man .... after all i play eve ... good point :) not yet, 17:35 GMT now Edit: mmm, it is me or the forum clock hour isn't working? The forum clock is working fine. You sir, have another 2 hours and 22 minutes to wait instead of the half an hour you think you did. D'oh! Originally by: Nellz 18:00?! /me Picks up his didgeridoo and sits outside to annoy the hell out of teh neighbours again!!! o7! ^Full of win
Drake III	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:40:00 - [848] Originally by: lotek cranium AAAAAAAAHH, 14 minutes left on carrier skill. Better drink another Beer in the sun ) You should know by now to set a skill atleast +1 day patches end
David Hassan	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:40:00 - [849] My dog loves patch days, it means extra walks in the sun. :D
galrizian Minmatar Warp Ghost's	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:40:00 - [850] tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tictick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock k tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock ???????????????????? lolz

Saggatt	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:40:00 - [851] Originally by: Evalena Xibir "New estimated time for Tranquility and Incursion 1.4: 18:00 UTC. Your patience is legendary and we appreciate it!" http://twitter.com/EVEOnline ::cries:: Ok so I won't be playing today then :( No worries guys, do what you need to do.
Gustov Krell	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:41:00 - [852] Patches are great! Think I'm gonna change my underwear .. might even take a shower.
masc24	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:41:00 - [853] 18:00 UTC is what time in GMT?
Nellz	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:41:00 - [854] Wellz, It's actually 16:40 GMT, clocks went forward... I can't find any written evidence suggesting server down till 18:00
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:41:00 - [855] Originally by: Nellz 18:00?! /me Picks up his didgeridoo and sits outside to annoy the hell out of teh neighbours again!!! o7! lmao, some people should get out in the garden like you just to show there neighbors there still alive :) nice post
Ceragor	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:41:00 - [856] I'll have some Cheese to go with all this whine.....
Cadarn Elessar	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:41:00 - [857] Still nothing yet ,, come on CCP
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:41:00 - [858] Edited by: Saithe on 06/04/2011 15:43:01 Originally by: BloodRaven117 Originally by: Psicho Edited by: Psicho on 06/04/2011 15:35:52 Originally by: Alkoorix Edited by: Alkoorix on 06/04/2011 15:19:21 i am a patient man .... after all i play eve ... good point :) not yet, 17:35 GMT now Edit: mmm, it is me or the forum clock hour isn't working? The forum clock is working fine. You sir, have another 2 hours and 22 minutes to wait instead of the half an hour you think you did. D'oh! most people dont realize that GMT/UMT is the time +/- their timezone. for example; i have a brain and know that being east coast us, my time is -4/-5 (DST conditional). therefore, the current time GMT/UMT is +4 of whatever time it is right now for me. edit: FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN ITS PATCH DAY ITS PATCH DAY
Ana Pauker	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:42:00 - [859] Just a simple status report. Or create a link, use the first post to give status updates.
Seamus Odoone	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:42:00 - [860] Originally by: 34 DD GMT IS 1 HOUR FORWARD THEN EVE TIME ITS 16.00 GMT EVE TIME NOW IS 15.00 GMT is EVE Time GMT is different from BST. BST = GMT+1 Hence why there are many countries that run on GMT but don't use BST.

Drystin Killers	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:42:00 - [861] Is it released yet? I read somewhere that it said 16:00 UTC I believe. I'm horrible with timezones, so when is it suppose to be released? Also this will sound very nooby, but where do I download it once released.
Crank Smith	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:43:00 - [862] No here its till 16:00 not 18:00, it just looks like an 18 but im more less sure its 16 so we're looking at what... 20 minutes or so. Not too bad, i still have another box of cigs :L
Bacardi 151 Evocati Sanctum	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:43:00 - [863] I hear the reason its taking so long is they are trying to roll back the nano nerf from years ago.
Parsival Abon	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:43:00 - [864] Regardless of what happens, I remain strikingly handsome.
Idgarad Minmatar Solum Contego	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:43:00 - [865] As a gesture of good faith I don't not find it, unreasonable, for a service provider to provide a pro-rated compensation for downtime that exceeds estimates. I recommend a sum of 50,000 ISK for every hour outside of the scheduled window. It doesn't have to be much but it would be nice for the developer to take a measure to say, "we are sorry it took so long." Hell it could be automated as part of the reboot process. At shutdown book in the estimated down time, on boot read the booked in down time and credit all active subscriptions 50,000 ISK x (Actual Downtime - Estimated Downtime Round Up) and assign it to the character on the account with the highest skill points. When my Internet goes down for more then 4 hours in a day I get a credit on my bill for the pro-rated downtime. When they take too long changing my oil I get a $5 off coupon for my next oil change. It wouldn't be much, but it adds "service with a smile" so to speak to circumstances such as extended or unplanned downtime. Idgarad says: "The Path to a good life is paved in misfortune. We tread upon misfortune to see value in what is good."
Tekka Caldari Sneaky Beaver	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:43:00 - [866] Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK i love it!! Originally by: SVTNeato Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: 0'o'0 Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q YES! Hell yes - Beardyman needs an invite to fanfest. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Nikki TheWhite	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:43:00 - [867] Originally by: Nellz Wellz, It's actually 16:40 GMT, clocks went forward... I can't find any written evidence suggesting server down till 18:00 erm try the offical www.eveonline.com home page and open your eyes or hit that refresh button lolz
45thtiger 0109	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:43:00 - [868] Originally by: CopperNail NO APOLOGIES ACCEPTED CCP. WE WANT FREE SP, FREE ISK, TTS OR STFU The Plain Answer to those question is NO,NOPE & not at all.* But you are still getting skill training lawl
Daenna Chrysi Amarr Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:43:00 - [869] Originally by: Nellz Wellz, It's actually 16:40 GMT, clocks went forward... I can't find any written evidence suggesting server down till 18:00 http://twitter.com/#!/EveOnline
YorikR32 Gallente The Leather Knights Sev3rance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:44:00 - [870] You should all be referencing Eve Time and not your Local Time.. http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4504&tid=1 That link says 16:00 EVE TIME. /discussion.. Server will be back soon, nothing to see here, move along. [Y] Yorik EVE is a game, THIS is real.

CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:44:00 - [871] I don't care for all the excuses, explanations and apologies. Just give the free SP, ISK or bonus item already CCP!!
Evalena Xibir	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:44:00 - [872] Originally by: Nellz Wellz, It's actually 16:40 GMT, clocks went forward... I can't find any written evidence suggesting server down till 18:00 http://twitter.com/Eveonline
PI PETRA	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:44:00 - [873] if this patch impacts my nulsec life as much as i think it will then i will be fire selling all my stuff and sitting on jita undock in my fleet of smartbomb fitted rochs .... at least i will be happy in the knoledge i can screw peoples plans up as much as CCP can!
Nellz	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:44:00 - [874] My bad, close your Eve client and reopen; Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 18:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. Definitely getting my ass back in the garden with teh didge... Nellz signin off. o7!
Captain Vampire Caldari Kung Fu Vampire Ninja's	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:44:00 - [875] Originally by: taque Quote: Is it me or are they late? my world would collide when ccp would NOT be late. isn't it kinda like a tradition. you know..the waiting time, the expected whining about waiting and the ppl that whine about whiners ofcourse :) i guess i'm one of the players that is very impatient too. got to find a way not to think about the patch and not to get upset when the damn game still doesn't work and the downtime is extended again. you got to see me when Eve is online again ^^ Do what I've done all day, clean my motorbike after ragging it through the Irish winter 2 days I've been at it now lol And booooo to extended DT lol
BlackhandElite	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:44:00 - [876] Reimbursed SP's for time waited plx <3 lub you long time <3
Seamus Odoone	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:45:00 - [877] Originally by: masc24 18:00 UTC is what time in GMT? 18:00 UTC is 18:00 GMT. GMT never changes, Britain goes to BST which is GMT+1. We change timezone, the timezone itself doesn't change.
Lmfie Two	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:45:00 - [878] and why do they ignore WH Space? Oh ye creatures of fear.
Sofa KingWicked	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:45:00 - [879] Update at 15:25 UTC. Downtime has been extended till 18:00 UTC as we continue to investigate and fix the edge-case issue. Thank you for your patience and we apologize for this inconvenience. from this thread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1493094 looks like 18:00 to me
Thomas Coe	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:45:00 - [880] Why are people demanding free ISK and SP? Have CCP given this out in the past because of extended patch?

Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:45:00 - [881] Edited by: Rouque Vanderbuilt on 06/04/2011 15:45:53 18:00 UTC oh god.. CCP -> Time to give us a Gift for the longtime wait
Alkoori	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [882] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmPmIJyi0sc torturial on how to be awesome
Missbehavior	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [883] Originally by: AxelFuller I loves it I do :) Nothing unusual on this thread for a patch day however I feel some of the whiners have been unanswered and deserve a response really :P the posts IÆm talking about is those asking for refund/compensation for the downtime, normally some smarty pants throws out some simple maths to explain what they would be entitled to resulting in just a few cents, please oh please can someone post that message with the calculations I love it :) OH WAIT I HAVE TIME HERE GOES $15 per month x 12 months = $180 ayyy Ç 0.20 times 54.000 $180 divided by 365 days in a year = 0.49 cents per day 0.49 cents divided by 24 hours in a day = 0.02 cents per hour Downtime at worst going to be 10 hours 10 hours x 0.02 cents = 0.20 cents refund due, mail me your paypal account and IÆll send it right away :) Look at me maa i did some maths yay for me
Nikki TheWhite	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [884] FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT STILL WANTING A REFUND OF SOME DESCRIPTION $15 per month x 12 months = $180 $180 divided by 365 days in a year = 0.49 cents per day 0.49 cents divided by 24 hours in a day = 0.02 cents per hour Downtime at worst going to be 10 hours 10 hours x 0.02 cents = 0.20 cents refund due, mail me your paypal account and IÆll send it right away :) Look at me maa i did some maths yay for me
Hydraka	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [885] Edited by: Hydraka on 06/04/2011 15:46:08 Lol
Hog Rider	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [886] From the other thread: Update at 15:25 UTC. Downtime has been extended till 18:00 UTC as we continue to investigate and fix the edge-case issue. Thank you for your patience and we apologize for this inconvenience. EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 deployment update
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [887] we want an HD broadcast of patchday... you can even charge us for it :P
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [888] People get smart and start claiming reimbursment for this, you never know they might listen for once
Ima Victim	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [889] Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: 0'o'0 Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q That says he was at the Reading Festival, but I didn't see anyone reading at all.
Capt Zulu	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [890] could we have an update on when server is up?

galrizian Minmatar Warp Ghost's	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [891] dont type anythin cept ...................................500k free sp for everyone after this ..................... if we all do this we might get it coz ccp will see it :) copy an past is your friend
Gnosis Darine	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:46:00 - [892] You may like For your entertainment!
Asteriade	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:47:00 - [893] For waiting, i suggest to visit Eveindus web site. ------------------------------------------- Eve Indus
Drystin Killers	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:47:00 - [894] Originally by: YorikR32 You should all be referencing Eve Time and not your Local Time.. http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4504&tid=1 That link says 16:00 EVE TIME. /discussion.. Server will be back soon, nothing to see here, move along. Pretty sure I see a 18:00
Gank'aho	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:47:00 - [895] Update at 15:25 UTC. Downtime has been extended till 18:00 UTC as we continue to investigate and fix the edge-case issue. Thank you for your patience and we apologize for this inconvenience. Proof
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:47:00 - [896] Originally by: CopperNail I don't care for all the excuses, explanations and apologies. Just give the free SP, ISK or bonus item already CCP!! ^^ WORD!
Gibsie	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:47:00 - [897] Haven't seen it in the last fanfest party ... Rock concert movement 101 ... Time to Start!
Maul555 Amarr Nuts and Vindictive	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:47:00 - [898] Its almost as though CCP where telling me to go outside, and do something else... /me presses F5
Kolt	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:47:00 - [899] maybe its time this game was called EVE OFFLINE !!!
Wenomos	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:47:00 - [900] good time to play world of tanks while instead of waiting...keep the EvE off line for another couple of hours want to see some more angry users here...poping out with their useless demands

SLAPNASTY McTAVISH	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:48:00 - [901] I actually love patch day. Sure it can get a bit irksome when things don't go right at CCP and they miss the time, but ** it is worth it just to read all the ***in' and whining. Haven't laughed so much since grandma caught her left tit in the mangle.
UberSlashplayer XJ7	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:48:00 - [902] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4RU8dbeMMQ
Base Instinct	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:48:00 - [903] I didn't even know the servers would be down. I currently have no skills training. :(
BlackhandElite	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:48:00 - [904] Originally by: Captain Vampire Originally by: taque Quote: Is it me or are they late? my world would collide when ccp would NOT be late. isn't it kinda like a tradition. you know..the waiting time, the expected whining about waiting and the ppl that whine about whiners ofcourse :) i guess i'm one of the players that is very impatient too. got to find a way not to think about the patch and not to get upset when the damn game still doesn't work and the downtime is extended again. you got to see me when Eve is online again ^^ Do what I've done all day, clean my motorbike after ragging it through the Irish winter 2 days I've been at it now lol And booooo to extended DT lol Abused, cleaned, pollished, chain lubed, brakes calibrated, springs re-calibrated, carbs synchronised, tank cleaned from the inside, connectos all sprayed and cleaned, tires presure, just finished changing the ignition and idle .... it is time for EvE
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:48:00 - [905] Edited by: Dana Kait on 06/04/2011 15:50:08 Originally by: Seamus Odoone Originally by: masc24 18:00 UTC is what time in GMT? 18:00 UTC is 18:00 GMT. GMT never changes, Britain goes to BST which is GMT+1. We change timezone, the timezone itself doesn't change. Or just use this. I'm on Japan time myself currently (move ALOT). http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc It keeps me from calling my family at ungodly hours
Missbehavior	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:48:00 - [906] Originally by: Nikki TheWhite FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT STILL WANTING A REFUND OF SOME DESCRIPTION $15 per month x 12 months = $180 $180 divided by 365 days in a year = 0.49 cents per day 0.49 cents divided by 24 hours in a day = 0.02 cents per hour Downtime at worst going to be 10 hours 10 hours x 0.02 cents = 0.20 cents refund due, mail me your paypal account and IÆll send it right away :) Look at me maa i did some maths yay for me ummm what i ment to say is Ç0,20 times 54.000!!
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:48:00 - [907] It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason!
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:48:00 - [908] Originally by: Base Instinct I didn't even know the servers would be down. I currently have no skills training. :( ouch! should read the news and login messages, been planned for a while mate, unlucky :(
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:49:00 - [909] Mighty CareBear says CCP give us more systems to explore and make them all hi-sec so I can carebear them all up lol And I want the best ore in them also Open up Jove space and make it all .5 to 1.0
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:49:00 - [910] Originally by: Thomas Coe Why are people demanding free ISK and SP? Have CCP given this out in the past because of extended patch? No but wouldnt it be nice to get a precedent started? Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.

Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:49:00 - [911] Originally by: Nikki TheWhite FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT STILL WANTING A REFUND OF SOME DESCRIPTION $15 per month x 12 months = $180 $180 divided by 365 days in a year = 0.49 cents per day 0.49 cents divided by 24 hours in a day = 0.02 cents per hour Downtime at worst going to be 10 hours x 50.000 Player = massive Provit for CCP 10 hours x 0.02 cents = 0.20 cents refund due, mail me your paypal account and IÆll send it right away :) Look at me maa i did some maths yay for me 0.20*50.000 Player = 10.000$
sparepart	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:49:00 - [912] Strangest thing... I just discovered an area round the back of my house, I think it's my garden ! Time out from EVE has proved useful, thanks CCP.. time for some sun
Chui Menta	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:49:00 - [913] Edited by: Chui Menta on 06/04/2011 15:49:16 Originally by: Athena reekoo we want an HD broadcast of patchday... you can even charge us for it :P Yes to this.
Lmfie Two	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:49:00 - [914] HA - Gotta buy it buy the month! NOOB Originally by: Nikki TheWhite FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT STILL WANTING A REFUND OF SOME DESCRIPTION $15 per month x 12 months = $180 $180 divided by 365 days in a year = 0.49 cents per day 0.49 cents divided by 24 hours in a day = 0.02 cents per hour Downtime at worst going to be 10 hours 10 hours x 0.02 cents = 0.20 cents refund due, mail me your paypal account and IÆll send it right away :) Look at me maa i did some maths yay for me
Talos Kochab	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:50:00 - [915] Well since we all have to find something to do may as well watch some Clear Skies :) Clear Skies 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As8cmHb-aKU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TBQHTdTNyc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOh9LDIySTI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZE8zGpowVc Clear Skies 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym-qd5XlZAY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhOp6WG3gd4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYVA-n8rlN4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bxHJR8AkQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrFznLMaHBI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMxcUP8B_5o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mii1jNL08VQ
Lord Chard	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:50:00 - [916] Originally by: Base Instinct I didn't even know the servers would be down. I currently have no skills training. :( Bad luck it's been on the log on screen for ages. Secondly give the dev's a break you bunch of impatient lot, go out into the sunshine (or rain) and experience the outdoors!
Epa Conny Gallente Imperial Collective	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:50:00 - [917] Originally by: Parsival Abon Regardless of what happens, I remain strikingly handsome. Lol, thats quite funny Gmt is eve time, the clocks have gone forward to Bst So 18.00 eve time is 19.00 Bst :)
Ana Pauker	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:50:00 - [918] Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 18:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. There we go ;)
Sofa KingWicked	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:50:00 - [919] We pay a monthly subscription not a 23hr/day subscription so you should include the 365 hours of downtime in your refund quote
Nikki TheWhite	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:50:00 - [920] Originally by: CopperNail It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason! and just how much SP do you think your entitled too when your currently even though not able to play still getting SP so why do you deserve more SP its a game guys chill relax, catch some sun or my favourite GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE

Katherine Starlight	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:51:00 - [921] Ive had a recurring error where gametime magicly vanishses, wonder what this edge case issue pushing extended downtime further two hours might be :)
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:52:00 - [922] Its plain stupid NOT to demand retribution when you are intitled to. No apologies CCP, give us free SP!!
PryMary Minmatar Solar Nexus.	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:52:00 - [923] anyone else still not able to download the update yet or is it only going to be made available once the server goes live again? Regards, PryMary ☻♥
Laktos Mountain Militia	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:52:00 - [924] EveOnline EVE Online New estimated time for Tranquility and Incursion 1.4: 04:00 UTC, Thursday, April 7. #eveonline #tweetfleet Damn :(
Gilarm	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:52:00 - [925] Whilst I do appreciate what the guys atr CCp go through and some of the obnoxious remarks in this forum, really don't help. Update days are starting to go back to the horrible time we used to have in 2006 whe a 2 hour update could become a 2 day update. So come on CCP get it sorted please. Gilarm
Drake III	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:52:00 - [926] Originally by: Nikki TheWhite Originally by: CopperNail It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason! GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE WHOA WHOA WHOA....girls dont bite?...also whats a girl?
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:52:00 - [927] We should start taking ISK wagers on how many "optional" patches will be needed to fix this patch. lol I wrote this prayer in October during one of the multiple patches to patch the patches that patches the patches. Perhaps it still applies... CCP'S PRAYER Our Devs, Who art in Iceland, CCP be thy name; Thy patches come; Havoc will be done; In Eve as it is in Iceland. Give us this day our daily patch, And forgive us our ***ing, As we forgive you who ***ed up against us. And lead us not into extended downtime; But deliver us from DCs. For thine is New Eden, the bugs, and the lag, for ever and ever. Amen
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:52:00 - [928] Originally by: Talos Kochab Well since we all have to find something to do may as well watch some Clear Skies :) Actually, NOW would be a good time for them to release Clear Skies 3 :) When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
Alkoori	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:52:00 - [929] Originally by: sparepart Strangest thing... I just discovered an area round the back of my house, I think it's my garden ! Time out from EVE has proved useful, thanks CCP.. time for some sun Yea i got more D vitamin from the sun today then i have in the last ........ well i think i spend an houer or so outside when i was like 14
Mamba Lev BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:53:00 - [930] Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Thomas Coe Why are people demanding free ISK and SP? Have CCP given this out in the past because of extended patch? No but wouldnt it be nice to get a precedent started? Yes it has, CCP did it after a really long Dt, gave us 100k of SP. As was said it doesn't cost them anything and it's a little bit of good will to make up for the lost day of fun.

Vukasin Chandrakant	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:53:00 - [931] if you try to log into eve look at the message it says 18:00 UTC that means another 2 hours and 7 minutes
galrizian Minmatar Warp Ghost's	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:53:00 - [932] cmon ccp im goin away in june :P
Dirk Decibel	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:53:00 - [933] I'd rather have free gametime then free SP :D I'll save my *****ing for when stuff hasn't been fixed yet tmr :P
Enormus1	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:53:00 - [934] isn't this done yet WTFudge
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:53:00 - [935] Originally by: Sofa KingWicked We pay a monthly subscription not a 23hr/day subscription so you should include the 365 hours of downtime in your refund quote not really you shoudl read the EULA where it states downtiem occurs for scheduled maintenance and you accept this when you subscribe to the game you love so much which is why you still play it :)
BloodRaven117	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:53:00 - [936] Originally by: SLAPNASTY McTAVISH I actually love patch day. Sure it can get a bit irksome when things don't go right at CCP and they miss the time, but ** it is worth it just to read all the ***in' and whining. Haven't laughed so much since grandma caught her left tit in the mangle. Yuck dude, lolz. At this rate, we'll be at page 55 or so by the time the server comes back on.
Tekka Caldari Sneaky Beaver	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:54:00 - [937] Originally by: Ima Victim Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: 0'o'0 Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q Beardyman will ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=140frKEfQ1Q It worked, I laughed like little Japanese schoolgirl and put hand on mouth too! That says he was at the Reading Festival, but I didn't see anyone reading at all. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
BlackhandElite	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:54:00 - [938] Originally by: sparepart Strangest thing... I just discovered an area round the back of my house, I think it's my garden ! Time out from EVE has proved useful, thanks CCP.. time for some sun Keep scanning bro! i think there's a fire breathing bbq close by !
Running sin	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:55:00 - [939] we might but think all those no good NC player might be on cheating thier way again on downtime to take over space like they usely do
Drake III	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:55:00 - [940] Originally by: BlackhandElite Originally by: sparepart Strangest thing... I just discovered an area round the back of my house, I think it's my garden ! Time out from EVE has proved useful, thanks CCP.. time for some sun Keep scanning bro! i think there's a fire breathing bbq close by ! I heard Sansha lasers are good for cooking

Nikki TheWhite	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:55:00 - [941] Originally by: BloodRaven117 Originally by: SLAPNASTY McTAVISH I actually love patch day. Sure it can get a bit irksome when things don't go right at CCP and they miss the time, but ** it is worth it just to read all the ***in' and whining. Haven't laughed so much since grandma caught her left tit in the mangle. Yuck dude, lolz. At this rate, we'll be at page 55 or so by the time the server comes back on. snap snap :) most entertainment i had in a while its like free stand up comedy nights every patch day :) let go for 150 pages this patch day guys :)
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:55:00 - [942] Originally by: Drake III Originally by: Nikki TheWhite Originally by: CopperNail It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason! GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE WHOA WHOA WHOA....girls dont bite?...also whats a girl? some of us do bite......
Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:55:00 - [943] grant me the time for Hello Kitty thx CCP
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:55:00 - [944] Singalong time: (ryuuzanx wrote) ohhhhhhhh... If your happy and you know it pod Amarr If you cannot find Caldari pod Amarr 'Cause the Mimi are to thrifty and Gallente are to shifty the Joves are just to risky Pod Amarr! (If you don't know the tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrsM9WggCdo When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
Sofa KingWicked	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:56:00 - [945] Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: Sofa KingWicked We pay a monthly subscription not a 23hr/day subscription so you should include the 365 hours of downtime in your refund quote not really you shoudl read the EULA where it states downtiem occurs for scheduled maintenance and you accept this when you subscribe to the game you love so much which is why you still play it :) touche
Alkoori	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:56:00 - [946] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PASEzbXLXI OGfuious to the rescue while waiting
Daenna Chrysi Amarr Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:56:00 - [947] Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Thomas Coe Why are people demanding free ISK and SP? Have CCP given this out in the past because of extended patch? No but wouldnt it be nice to get a precedent started? Actually there was one time when CCP gave out 100k SP, around the time they gave the primae as a gift, and something had gone seriously wrong, so that the DT was like 36h if I remember right... so I doubt they will give out SP for this.
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:56:00 - [948] Originally by: Lord Chard Originally by: Base Instinct I didn't even know the servers would be down. I currently have no skills training. :( Bad luck it's been on the log on screen for ages. Secondly give the dev's a break you bunch of impatient lot, go out into the sunshine (or rain) and experience the outdoors! you sound like my x please stop
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:56:00 - [949] keep on hitting the nail always gets things done in the end.. No apologies accepted CCP, give us free ISK, SP or bonus item!
Danastar	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:56:00 - [950] hmz strange they extended the DT.... how could this be strange...

5mok1ng gun	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:56:00 - [951] UTC time is the time on your posts ( EVE time ) this is the time you go by when CCP say patch time. FYI am loving the tears and the whine good work ccp even if the patch is not finished yet
wolftkilla	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:56:00 - [952] :L They pospone the startup, again, Damn this is like deja vu, few months this happened, and a few months before then.. Oh well, not a long time if it was a week that'd be another thing.. 2 hours, nothing to cry about... Next time you do this though say you'll be starting up 4 hours after the normal startup time planned, anything before then is a bonus!
EliteWarlord	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:57:00 - [953] Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: Drake III Originally by: Nikki TheWhite Originally by: CopperNail It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason! GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE WHOA WHOA WHOA....girls dont bite?...also whats a girl? some of us do bite...... will you come bite me, ill bite back if you like :)
Von Sectizer	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:57:00 - [954] I mean...Come on.
phoenix0269 Gallente Degrees of Freedom The Babylon Consortium	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:58:00 - [955] dt now extended to 1800 eve time another day shot to crap for play timei agree that some sp comp would be nice for all the lost time for the last couple months for expansion patch patch to fix the patch that didnt work and another one for a bandaid ect ect ect ect in rl if we are late on a contract it cost us or if id dont work when the customer gets it we get charged but in eve ya got to suck it up its eve and its not gonna change just get used to it unfortunatly
Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:58:00 - [956] UTC, ETC, CCP, TBC ....
BlackhandElite	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:58:00 - [957] Originally by: Drake III Originally by: BlackhandElite Originally by: sparepart Strangest thing... I just discovered an area round the back of my house, I think it's my garden ! Time out from EVE has proved useful, thanks CCP.. time for some sun Keep scanning bro! i think there's a fire breathing bbq close by ! I heard Sansha lasers are good for cooking hmmz i always used Tachyons!! like 8 of em, you should see the backyard but hey ! 1 second hamburger!!!
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:59:00 - [958] Originally by: wolftkilla :L They pospone the startup, again, Damn this is like deja vu, few months this happened, and a few months before then.. Oh well, not a long time if it was a week that'd be another thing.. 2 hours, nothing to cry about... Next time you do this though say you'll be starting up 4 hours after the normal startup time planned, anything before then is a bonus! Actually 3 hours so far if you can do math. Original restart was 15:00 UTC now 18:00 Waiting for more extension
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:59:00 - [959] Originally by: Nikki TheWhite and just how much SP do you think your entitled to [...] Around 60k-70k sp. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
coolruningc	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:59:00 - [960] 7 pm uk time thingers corsred lol

Clathrus	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:59:00 - [961] I'm not bothered, it means I can find time to start training 'Girlfriend aggro management' to level 5!
Wolfkitch	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:59:00 - [962] im starting to get worried now only 7 hrs left in my training que some how i think it will run out before we can log on
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:59:00 - [963] Originally by: CopperNail keep on hitting the nail always gets things done in the end.. No apologies accepted CCP, give us free ISK, SP or bonus item! No. But what they will give you is free updates and expansions. Certain companies, which shall remain unnamed here, charge the equivalent of about 3 months game time for expansions. When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
Drake III	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:59:00 - [964] Originally by: BlackhandElite Originally by: Drake III Originally by: BlackhandElite Originally by: sparepart Strangest thing... I just discovered an area round the back of my house, I think it's my garden ! Time out from EVE has proved useful, thanks CCP.. time for some sun Keep scanning bro! i think there's a fire breathing bbq close by ! I heard Sansha lasers are good for cooking hmmz i always used Tachyons!! like 8 of em, you should see the backyard but hey ! 1 second hamburger!!! Dont worry we can PI for some water
Murk Loar O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 15:59:00 - [965] Originally by: Running sin we might but think all those no good NC player might be on cheating thier way again on downtime to take over space like they usely do Extended downtimes are always useful for harvesting gems like this one.
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:00:00 - [966] Retribution for lost gametime! who's with me? Start demanding it here please, if you don't ask you don't get!!
Kane 369 Caldari Assassins Order	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:00:00 - [967] ok is it you guys have no idea how to make proper use of time or do you just prefer to lie to use on the time these patches will be done for the entertainment by all the flamers out there? Nothing Is True, Everything Is Permitted
TerrorNudel	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:00:00 - [968] Der Server schon online? kann kein Patch runterladen.
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:00:00 - [969] Originally by: Dana Kait some of us do bite...... Well damn.... just my type! lol
5mok1ng gun	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:00:00 - [970] your not entitled to any sorta refunds read the EULA

Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:00:00 - [971] now training ... beer-drinking level 5 .. hick
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [972] You awake one morning to find EVE down for the Incursion 1.4 patch. As expected, the servers are supposed to be back up at 15:00 UTC. Deciding to pass the time, you go to brush your teeth, shower, and make breakfast. When you return, you find that downtime has been extended to 16:00. Although annoyed, you brush it off and play some Death Invaders of Doom until 16:00, when you are startled to find that downtime has moved from 16:00 to 18:00! Do you... Turn to page 32 as your head explodes. Or... Turn to page 12 to cut yourself with a rusty butter knife to pass the time. Or... Turn to page 113 to plan and execute a 2-hour fap session.
immortal myth	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [973] has everyone made a backup copy of thier boot.ini file? mite b a good time to do so..
Pneumon Blaster Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [974] Seems like this is going to be yet another lolcursion :) Can we expect also some more standings bugs? :)
Running sin	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [975] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIGk0hRPmk0 best song in the world NC burn for ever <(^-^<)<(^-^)>(>^-^)> keep it up NC you be gone soon
Sofa KingWicked	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [976] Originally by: Kane 369 ok is it you guys have no idea how to make proper use of time or do you just prefer to lie to use on the time these patches will be done for the entertainment by all the flamers out there? I would be properly using my time to play eve but for some reason I can't log on
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [977] Originally by: TerrorNudel Der Server schon online? kann kein Patch runterladen. Volapyk? When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
TheTownDrunk Skjem	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [978] Originally by: Gil Warden Singalong time: (ryuuzanx wrote) ohhhhhhhh... If your happy and you know it pod Amarr If you cannot find Caldari pod Amarr 'Cause the Mimi are to thrifty and Gallente are to shifty the Joves are just to risky Pod Amarr! (If you don't know the tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrsM9WggCdo That actually made me chuckle..I guess its time to get away from the pc for a few.
BEER O'CLOCK	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [979] Originally by: Clathrus I'm not bothered, it means I can find time to start training 'Girlfriend aggro management' to level 5! erm well i would get off forums whilst game is down and sort that skill out lmao
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [980] For those whiners heres tutorial for you to consider 1. Hit the EVE ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT button over there <<<<< on the left 2. Login 3. Click Subscription details 4. Hit the Cancel Subscription button End of problem, have a nice life :)

Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [981] Originally by: Nikki TheWhite Originally by: CopperNail It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason! and just how much SP do you think your entitled too when your currently even though not able to play still getting SP so why do you deserve more SP its a game guys chill relax, catch some sun or my favourite GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE LOL yes they do
LightMeUpJohnny	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:01:00 - [982] Originally by: 5mok1ng gun UTC time is the time on your posts ( EVE time ) this is the time you go by when CCP say patch time. FYI am loving the tears and the whine good work ccp even if the patch is not finished yet Chuck Norris decides what time it is.
Wouter Maypole Broz With Froz Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:02:00 - [983] So the clocks went forward?
Glacier Gal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:02:00 - [984] hmm...time is 1800...
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:02:00 - [985] Random useless fact for the day... The Paomnnehal Pweor Of The Hmuan Mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch as Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Chew on that for a while, hee hee
PI PETRA	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:02:00 - [986] Originally by: Pneumon Blaster Seems like this is going to be yet another lolcursion :) Can we expect also some more standings bugs? :) Nope Just Sitting bugs this time :)
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:02:00 - [987] Originally by: EliteWarlord Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: Drake III Originally by: Nikki TheWhite GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE WHOA WHOA WHOA....girls dont bite?...also whats a girl? some of us do bite...... will you come bite me, ill bite back if you like :) Sorry dude, I'm married. And I'm quite happy with my husband and vise versa.
Jerome Rousseaux	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:02:00 - [988] Originally by: Silath Silverpine Delayed till 18:00... bleh. Nothing to be done I suppose. -Passes out cigs and coffee.- Now I want to make a character called Godot. :-D
Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:03:00 - [989] Originally by: Wouter Maypole So the clocks went forward? ... clocks stand still
Kato Danzo ICEBOX.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:03:00 - [990] 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today....

Inslander Wessette	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:03:00 - [991] 18 UTC ?? wth ...
Sofa KingWicked	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:03:00 - [992] Originally by: Xan'thi La'aye Random useless fact for the day... The Paomnnehal Pweor Of The Hmuan Mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch as Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Chew on that for a while, hee hee scary stuff there
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:03:00 - [993] Originally by: IreSilver You awake one morning to find EVE down for the Incursion 1.4 patch. As expected, the servers are supposed to be back up at 15:00 UTC. Deciding to pass the time, you go to brush your teeth, shower, and make breakfast. When you return, you find that downtime has been extended to 16:00. Although annoyed, you brush it off and play some Death Invaders of Doom until 16:00, when you are startled to find that downtime has moved from 16:00 to 18:00! Do you... Turn to page 32 as your head explodes. Or... Turn to page 12 to cut yourself with a rusty butter knife to pass the time. Or... Turn to page 113 to plan and execute a 2-hour fap session. Haha, choose your own adventure thread, I like it
PizzaTheHut69	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:03:00 - [994] This is a good time to do some level 4's for wife faction, too!
Lmfie Two	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:03:00 - [995] The best DO Bite! Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: Drake III Originally by: Nikki TheWhite Originally by: CopperNail It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason! GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE WHOA WHOA WHOA....girls dont bite?...also whats a girl? some of us do bite......
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:03:00 - [996] EVES UP!!!
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:04:00 - [997] Originally by: Running sin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIGk0hRPmk0 best song in the world NC burn for ever <(^-^<)<(^-^)>(>^-^)> keep it up NC you be gone soon NC BFF! (The Impostors NC. (dot) can lick my shiny metal ***) When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
Tony Williams	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:04:00 - [998] Edited by: Tony Williams on 06/04/2011 16:04:56 This has been viewed sooo many times but like current DED complexes, you gotta do it again!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG_9Itz7z7I
Karren M	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:04:00 - [999] Edited by: Karren M on 06/04/2011 16:05:04 Originally by: TerrorNudel Der Server schon online? kann kein Patch runterladen. Nein. 1800 Eve Time. Hope that's what you meant.
Jin Lees	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:04:00 - [1000] We are sorry, but the game your trying to log onto is not available, please get a life and try again later .

AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:04:00 - [1001] Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK Originally by: Clathrus I'm not bothered, it means I can find time to start training 'Girlfriend aggro management' to level 5! erm well i would get off forums whilst game is down and sort that skill out lmao LMAO if only i could plug that skill in and train her to chill to level 5, man life would be peaceful :) No offense to any girls out there and i mean that seriously, this is intended as joke, if you dont have a sense of humor, stop reading now You girls really dont know what you want do you thats why you make us guys go crazy trying to figure you out when you don't know yourself lmao :)
Slaangani Gallente Psychedelic Party	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:04:00 - [1002] 18:00 UTC! meh...
AthlonJedi Gallente RazorBlade Smile Inc. Trifecta.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1003] Wow patch days are like taking away a crackheads crack! look at all the btching and moaning going on. Do any of you people whining really think YOU* can do a better job running eve and continuosly developing it? On what? your uber cookie cutter walmart special computers? you people have no idea how much work goes into something like this so why dont you go find something to do for a few hours , I mean acculy get off your collective asses and go outside for once in your life. Dont worry, a little sunshine never killed anyone.
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1004] Instead of posting bullsh*t here you should demand retribution for lost time with isk, sp or whatever!!
Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1005] Cyno up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ozwaldo	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1006] Hooray for delaying my disappointment in your patch. I have 3 more hours to curse you.
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1007] Edited by: Dana Kait on 06/04/2011 16:05:38 Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... rly dude? I'm on jst myself, and i'm not complaining.
Sora De'Quasar Minmatar Cosmodynamics	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1008] oh buggers... this means I now have time to clean up the house. lovely... CCP look what you have done!
KORAY OKTAVYAN	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1009] u sure it is up. mine says incopatible version and dont download new version so i cant log in.
Leviant2910	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1010] should've set a longer skill for the 5 day downtime to come ;(

Parsival Abon	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:05:00 - [1011] I just checked, and I'm still strikingly handsome. All is well, carry on.
Jerome Rousseaux	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:06:00 - [1012] Originally by: Valmora Jung Originally by: Nikki TheWhite Originally by: CopperNail It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason! and just how much SP do you think your entitled too when your currently even though not able to play still getting SP so why do you deserve more SP its a game guys chill relax, catch some sun or my favourite GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE LOL yes they do Only if you're lucky. ;-)
Mamba Lev BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:06:00 - [1013] Originally by: AthlonJedi Wow patch days are like taking away a crackheads crack! look at all the btching and moaning going on. Do any of you people whining really think YOU* can do a better job running eve and continuosly developing it? On what? your uber cookie cutter walmart special computers? you people have no idea how much work goes into something like this so why dont you go find something to do for a few hours , I mean acculy get off your collective asses and go outside for once in your life. Dont worry, a little sunshine never killed anyone. Chimps with Downs syndrome could do a better job, now **** off out into the sunshine your so excited about and leave us to our whining.
Tekka Caldari Sneaky Beaver	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:06:00 - [1014] More Beardyman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJOkMBoZG6Y&feature=channel_video_title »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
BEER O'CLOCK	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:06:00 - [1015] Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK Originally by: Clathrus I'm not bothered, it means I can find time to start training 'Girlfriend aggro management' to level 5! erm well i would get off forums whilst game is down and sort that skill out lmao LMAO if only i could plug that skill in and train her to chill to level 5, man life would be peaceful :) No offense to any girls out there and i mean that seriously, this is intended as joke, if you dont have a sense of humor, stop reading now never a more true word spoken axel You girls really dont know what you want do you thats why you make us guys go crazy trying to figure you out when you don't know yourself lmao :)
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:06:00 - [1016] Game is up! Made ya look
ms hottie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:06:00 - [1017] srlsy ccp you suck at predicting how long your udates will take. it always take atleast 2 hours longer lmao. kinda anoying
Sung mai Gallente Novaku Inc	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:06:00 - [1018] Originally by: Parsival Abon I just checked, and I'm still strikingly handsome. All is well, carry on. <3 The hamsters. They faint. Every 15 minutes after downtime.
Enormus1	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:06:00 - [1019] i just wish they would tell the Truth "we are sorry to say sever will be down the whole day seeyall tommarro"
ManiakMogg	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:07:00 - [1020] I WANT FREE SP!

devil127	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:07:00 - [1021] Originally by: Daenna Chrysi Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Thomas Coe Why are people demanding free ISK and SP? Have CCP given this out in the past because of extended patch? No but wouldnt it be nice to get a precedent started? Actually there was one time when CCP gave out 100k SP, around the time they gave the primae as a gift, and something had gone seriously wrong, so that the DT was like 36h if I remember right... so I doubt they will give out SP for this. it was 900k sp i believe
smoking gun81	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:07:00 - [1022] Originally by: LightMeUpJohnny Originally by: 5mok1ng gun UTC time is the time on your posts ( EVE time ) this is the time you go by when CCP say patch time. FYI am loving the tears and the whine good work ccp even if the patch is not finished yet Chuck Norris decides what time it is. Chuck Norris fails to fight time it is all over his face
Clamis	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:07:00 - [1023] @ Coppernail Its plain stupid NOT to demand retribution when you are intitled to. No apologies CCP, give us free SP!! This is ccp. Downtime for expansions has mostly been like this throughout the years. CCP only give free-bees out when the feel like it and not because some Muppet keeps spamming the forums with give us free stuff. As for going out and meeting girls (they don't bite) hmm the ones I have met do
Mrs Winter	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:07:00 - [1024] Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... I agree. I dont have 8 accounts, but I do like the idea of having the next patch right in the middle of US peak. That or let aussie players train 1.01 times faster than everyone else...
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:07:00 - [1025] Originally by: KORAY OKTAVYAN u sure it is up. mine says incopatible version and dont download new version so i cant log in. I've seen this before... he lied :( Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:07:00 - [1026] Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: BEER O'CLOCK Originally by: Clathrus I'm not bothered, it means I can find time to start training 'Girlfriend aggro management' to level 5! erm well i would get off forums whilst game is down and sort that skill out lmao LMAO if only i could plug that skill in and train her to chill to level 5, man life would be peaceful :) No offense to any girls out there and i mean that seriously, this is intended as joke, if you dont have a sense of humor, stop reading now You girls really dont know what you want do you thats why you make us guys go crazy trying to figure you out when you don't know yourself lmao :) oh we know what we want to do, we just pretend we dont to drive yall nuts :P
Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1027] I WANT FREE BEER
yamamoto suhara	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1028] ccp suck as usual....my chars for sale
Arthur Miller Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1029] Why do they always extend these downtimes? Just say it's going to take all day and then when you are done with the patch before that 1 day deadline people will be happy instead of annoyed like now.
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1030] How the **** ppl get on 18:00 time shedule for server back online? Only what i see is 15:00 on log in screen and 16:00 on eve online page. Prove or gtfo. (though server is still down meaby it is true ) ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout

Murk Loar O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1031] Originally by: Parsival Abon I just checked, and I'm still strikingly handsome. All is well, carry on. But why are you so sad =\
Shaila Gallente Hearts 'n Swords	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1032] Anyone else not getting the auto dowload request? Sometimes you have to do things...
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1033] OP: Update at 16:05 UTC. Downtime has been extended till 22:00 UTC as we continue to investigate and fix the backlog of stupid complaints on the forums. Thank you for your patience and we apologize for this inconvenience. When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
Major Sniper	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1034] Nothing to see here, Move along....
Tramadol Hydrochloride	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1035] Originally by: devil127 Originally by: Daenna Chrysi Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Thomas Coe Why are people demanding free ISK and SP? Have CCP given this out in the past because of extended patch? No but wouldnt it be nice to get a precedent started? Actually there was one time when CCP gave out 100k SP, around the time they gave the primae as a gift, and something had gone seriously wrong, so that the DT was like 36h if I remember right... so I doubt they will give out SP for this. it was 900k sp i believe It was 100k
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1036] Originally by: ManiakMogg I WANT FREE SP! Finally some one gets a clue! Thank you! Yes we want retribution for lost gametime CCP, keep your apologies!!
LightMeUpJohnny	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1037] Edited by: LightMeUpJohnny on 06/04/2011 16:11:05 MMO that's better than EVE ever will be.
Slaangani Gallente Psychedelic Party	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:08:00 - [1038] oh god! This means i have to talk to the wife...
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1039] Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... LOL what grade did you get in maths? How did you come to the sum of $4 thats just some random number right :P
Tornicks Caldari The Green Cross Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1040] As always. --

Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1041] Originally by: Clamis @ Coppernail Its plain stupid NOT to demand retribution when you are intitled to. No apologies CCP, give us free SP!! This is ccp. Downtime for expansions has mostly been like this throughout the years. CCP only give free-bees out when the feel like it and not because some Muppet keeps spamming the forums with give us free stuff. As for going out and meeting girls (they don't bite) hmm the ones I have met do CHOMP
galrizian Minmatar Warp Ghost's	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1042] anyone from ccp want to add a comment..... ya know so we know whats goin on .... get it from the horses mouth sort of thing instead of readin this blog all day long an not accualy knowin what the truth is ? your sincerly... bored to death :P
eyesofgod	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1043] i cant feel my leg fell a sleep waiting for patch to be done aaaaaaaaaa is it done yet can only take so much youtube goon songs
AmunSekhmet	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1044] OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 18:00GMT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
biggunsforu	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1045] wah i cry too you ccp.
Aria Oliki	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1046] EVERYONE THE TIME TO REVOLT IS NIGH! CCP ARE STEALING OUR MONEY AND WASTING OUR PRECIOUS TIME! IF WE ALL CANCEL OUR ACCOUNTS TODAY CCP WILL FINALLY GET THE MESSAGE AND WAKE UP TO THEIR RIDICULOUS LAZINESS AND ARROGANCE!
Crazy Craven	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:09:00 - [1047] Edited by: Crazy Craven on 06/04/2011 16:14:13 Time to get a few more hours sleep. Next attempt for server uptime is 18:00... By the way stop whining you infants. You would be the first to be on the forums spamming your precious game isn't working as CCP states it should and you would be spamming that you're ready to quit and never pay another penny to CCP. Really just enjoy some healthy time away from your computer, go eat some fruit or take your neglected animals for a walk mhm? [php]if (Troll == "idiot") return "Troll is an Idiot"; else if (Troll != "idiot") return "Troll is still an idiot";[/php] [url=http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1661626][img]http://valid.cana
Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:10:00 - [1048] Better learn long skills .... Titan Lv5 if ext. DT. The Skill is ready when server comes up
Gizmaticus	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:10:00 - [1049] Is there a way to find out when eve will be up, following a patch? I read, here that it will be up at 16:00, but still down.
Enormus1	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:10:00 - [1050] Originally by: ManiakMogg I WANT FREE SP! How does it feel to want

Daenna Chrysi Amarr Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:10:00 - [1051] Originally by: devil127 Originally by: Daenna Chrysi Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Thomas Coe Why are people demanding free ISK and SP? Have CCP given this out in the past because of extended patch? No but wouldnt it be nice to get a precedent started? Actually there was one time when CCP gave out 100k SP, around the time they gave the primae as a gift, and something had gone seriously wrong, so that the DT was like 36h if I remember right... so I doubt they will give out SP for this. it was 900k sp i believe you might be thinking of the time when they removed the learning skills and refunded the SP you had invested in them. 100k SP is from earlier.
Running sin	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:10:00 - [1052] This was never the way I planned not my intention I got so brave drinkin ham made my decision it's not what im used to just wanted something new hey darius how's you I caught your attention Chorus: I robbed a goon, took his titan his emo rage was certain I robbed a goon just to try it hope my goon friends dont mind it it felt so wrong it felt so right dont mean we have to fight I robbed a goon and I liked it I liked it though I don't even play your game it doesn't matter sorry if you think I feel 'shamed that's human nature it's not what good goons do not how they should behave my head gets so confused hard to obey us goons we are so likable pale skin cracked lips unkissable I thought just any pedophile are too good to deny it aint no big deal I'll give it back...maybe lollololololol
smokeydapot	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:10:00 - [1053] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: ManiakMogg I WANT FREE SP! Finally some one gets a clue! Thank you! Yes we want retribution for lost gametime CCP, keep your apologies!! What lost time your char(s) are still training STFU and read the EULA
Brown Stain	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:10:00 - [1054] 16h00 Zulu time eve goes up.... CCP smells in main office Epic Fail
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:10:00 - [1055] Originally by: Rouque Vanderbuilt Better learn long skills .... Titan Lv5 if ext. DT. The Skill is ready when server comes up I have about 14-30 days left in queue on all my toons...Always plan ahead. :) When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
Arthur Miller Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:11:00 - [1056] Originally by: Slaangani oh god! This means i have to talk to the wife... haha
Secutus	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:11:00 - [1057] would've liked to log on b4 work like i was planing. Wish i could remap and rearrange skills b4 i went to work.
Nick Toralen	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:11:00 - [1058] Dammit. I found myself listening to Barney "I love you". This downtime has to end!!!
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:11:00 - [1059] Originally by: smokeydapot Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: ManiakMogg I WANT FREE SP! Finally some one gets a clue! Thank you! Yes we want retribution for lost gametime CCP, keep your apologies!! What lost time your char(s) are still training STFU and read the EULA You don't get it dont ya??? You never know, it doesnt cost anything to try does it, do you have a problem with free stuff maybe or are you plain stupid?
Amberle Missorri	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:11:00 - [1060] I really dont know why they ever bother saying 15:00 as a time, I dont remember a time when they patched that it has Ever been 15:00 Its always more likely 18:00 or later Tho really they may as well just post EvE will be Offline on the 6th April from 11am till April 7th More logical and less of ****ing off anyone generally which they always do by the oh its been delayed. Oh wait its delayed again.

AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:12:00 - [1061] CCP reports reason for delay is becuase they are laughign there asses off at the wall of humor rather than focusing on the patch :) lets all be quiet for 1 hour and let them report on this thread as intended haha what a perfect world
Kato Danzo ICEBOX.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:12:00 - [1062] Originally by: smokeydapot Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: ManiakMogg I WANT FREE SP! Finally some one gets a clue! Thank you! Yes we want retribution for lost gametime CCP, keep your apologies!! What lost time your char(s) are still training STFU and read the EULA TIME IS MONEY FOOL. GIVE ME ISK OR GIVE ME SP
Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:12:00 - [1063] Edited by: Rouque Vanderbuilt on 06/04/2011 16:12:24 waaaaa.... wife comes home..... thx CCP can't play today
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:12:00 - [1064] Some more facts for the day.... On April 06 2011 in history .. 1862 - Battle of Shiloh. 1868 - Brigham Young marries number 27 - his final wife. 1906 - first animated cartoon is copyrighted. 1926 - 4 planes take off on 1st successful around-the-world flight. 1957 - New York City ends trolley car service. 2004 - Rolandas Paksas becomes the first president of Lithuania-to be peacefully removed from office by impeachment. 2005 - Kurdish leader Jalal Talabani becomes Iraqi president; Shiite Arab Ibrahim al-Jaafari is named premier the next day. 2009 - A 6.3 magnitude earthquake strikes near L'Aquila, Italy, killing 307. Famous birthdays On April 06 2011 .. 1810 - Philip Henry Gosse, invented the institutional aquarium 1866 - Lincoln Steffens, muckraker. 1890 - Anthony Herman Gerard Fokker, pioneer aircraft manufacturer 1892 - Donald Wills Douglas, founded an aircraft company. 1892 - Lowell Thomas, journalist
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:12:00 - [1065] Edited by: Dana Kait on 06/04/2011 16:14:08 Originally by: Mrs Winter Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... I agree. I dont have 8 accounts, but I do like the idea of having the next patch right in the middle of US peak. That or let aussie players train 1.01 times faster than everyone else... sigh, if the American on JST is not complaining, then there is something wrong with your outlook. I've played FFXI for almost 4 years now while living on EST and dealing with downtimes during peak US time or updates that took forever to download and god knows what else and didnt complain once. Servers need to be fixed from time to time, new content gets added from time to time. Devs are human, they make mistakes, errors happen, blah blah blah. Take a deep breathe, relax and try to find something to occupy the extra time. I for one am watching Doctor Who (old series eps), while checking for updates on the situation.
SenshiMaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:12:00 - [1066] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: smokeydapot Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: ManiakMogg I WANT FREE SP! Finally some one gets a clue! Thank you! Yes we want retribution for lost gametime CCP, keep your apologies!! What lost time your char(s) are still training STFU and read the EULA You don't get it dont ya??? You never know, it doesnt cost anything to try does it, do you have a problem with free stuff maybe or are you plain stupid? Only the stupid don't put in long training skills during updates.
Ana Naari	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:13:00 - [1067] CCP, as you don't seem able to stick to extended downtime schedules, why don't you just double your woefully overoptimistic estimates? Had you said downtime would be 12 hours, we wouldn't be here complaining that Tranquility is up 3 hours early. Just a thought.
Tyness	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:13:00 - [1068] CCP ... mOme pas capable de nous sortir a l'heure prTvue l'extension... bande d'amateur
SpacePhenix	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:13:00 - [1069] Another extansion????? have you eaten birdfood while standing on your head..... Come on CCP .... In my oppinion the + hour dt each day is more tan inugh.... Today you had like many more DT hours..... And then you extend and extend again....really unprofeshional..... Test your **** on a tryout server bf you deploy another patch.... You are messsing with my ISK income in game.... Bring the server up now.... Your way way to late already...
Daenna Chrysi Amarr Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:13:00 - [1070] Originally by: Slaangani oh god! This means i have to talk to the wife... and you could even get to hang around with your kids

Enormus1	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:13:00 - [1071] Originally by: Aria Oliki EVERYONE THE TIME TO REVOLT IS NIGH! CCP ARE STEALING OUR MONEY AND WASTING OUR PRECIOUS TIME! IF WE ALL CANCEL OUR ACCOUNTS TODAY CCP WILL FINALLY GET THE MESSAGE AND WAKE UP TO THEIR RIDICULOUS LAZINESS AND ARROGANCE! LOOL shut the Heck up ya noob
Clamis	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:14:00 - [1072] @ Slaangani -oh god! This means i have to talk to the wife... lmao.. so true
Gil Warden Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:14:00 - [1073] Originally by: Ana Naari CCP, as you don't seem able to stick to extended downtime schedules, why don't you just double your woefully overoptimistic estimates? Had you said downtime would be 12 hours, we wouldn't be here complaining that Tranquility is up 3 hours early. Just a thought. If they set the DT to 12 hours BEFORE they started, they'd have a revolt anyway :) When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
Locutus ofBorg Caldari Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus New Horizon Enterprise's	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:14:00 - [1074] April April, The 6th of April, A day filled with tears and rage.
eyesofgod	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:14:00 - [1075] thank god i am drunk of i would be **ed now but its just funny should seen this comming they always f** up the down loads of new paches freeee sp now
Yahrr The Tuskers	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:14:00 - [1076] Originally by: Kato Danzo TIME IS MONEY FOOL. GIVE ME ISK OR GIVE ME SP I pay the game with ISK. GIVE ME MONEY FOOL! :mrGreen:
Blind Bartemaeus	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:14:00 - [1077] Originally by: Murk Loar Originally by: Parsival Abon I just checked, and I'm still strikingly handsome. All is well, carry on. But why are you so sad =\ /me weeps uncontrollably.
Major Sniper	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:14:00 - [1078] Some more facts for the day.... On April 06 2011 in history .. 1862 - Battle of Shiloh. 1868 - Brigham Young marries number 27 - his final wife. 1906 - first animated cartoon is copyrighted. 1926 - 4 planes take off on 1st successful around-the-world flight. 1957 - New York City ends trolley car service. 2004 - Rolandas Paksas becomes the first president of Lithuania-to be peacefully removed from office by impeachment. 2005 - Kurdish leader Jalal Talabani becomes Iraqi president; Shiite Arab Ibrahim al-Jaafari is named premier the next day. 2009 - A 6.3 magnitude earthquake strikes near L'Aquila, Italy, killing 307. Famous birthdays On April 06 2011 .. 1810 - Philip Henry Gosse, invented the institutional aquarium 1866 - Lincoln Steffens, muckraker. 1890 - Anthony Herman Gerard Fokker, pioneer aircraft manufacturer 1892 - Donald Wills Douglas, founded an aircraft company. 1892 - Lowell Thomas, journalist F**ing lol
Shiana Soltek BlazingAngels Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:15:00 - [1079] Ok CCP you have seriously dropped the ball on this one. Remember a few month back when you actually kept us updated by updating the Page 1 posting about the patch??? Remember how much smoother things went, and how much more grateful all of us pilots were???? What happened to that this time??? Here we are at 1600 now, the game client says that ETA on server up time is 1800, the first posting by CCP Zymurgist still says 1500, and the downloads page STILL isn't updated with the patch or the full install client... Why can't you learn from your successes and keep us informed, and make sure that both in game and the patch update forum give the same information???? You want to be one of the best MMORPG game companies out there? Start acting like it and be consistent, learn from your successes not just your failures, and keep your customers informed. Otherwise, Eve will go the way of so many other Online games before it.
Tiberiiax	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:15:00 - [1080] I know it ain't back until 18:00, but, anyone else getting incompatible version after the patch? Tha ain't normal from what I have seen of other patches.

smokeydapot	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:15:00 - [1081] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: smokeydapot Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: ManiakMogg I WANT FREE SP! Finally some one gets a clue! Thank you! Yes we want retribution for lost gametime CCP, keep your apologies!! What lost time your char(s) are still training STFU and read the EULA You don't get it dont ya??? You never know, it doesnt cost anything to try does it, do you have a problem with free stuff maybe or are you plain stupid? I like free stuff ( are you giving me free stuff ? ) im not stupid I actuly read the EULA, Hell ccp just shut eve down and watch people demand a refund that will show just how many people actuly read the dam thing. P.S. you can always go play WOW I hear its da bomb
nat longshot	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:15:00 - [1082] Originally by: Mrs Winter Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... I agree. I dont have 8 accounts, but I do like the idea of having the next patch right in the middle of US peak. That or let aussie players train 1.01 times faster than everyone else... i have read this many times now and guess what alot of US player are waiting to. So Grow up. This down time is take away from everyone. Btw i'm from the states and long down time take away from our time playing too now STFU. Go outside and get a life. Stop trying to act like a bad ass over the net most people laugh at you what you try that. As for the long down time its patch day with ccp after 3 years iam use to it.
Sindjin Hawke RaVeN Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:15:00 - [1083] Edited by: Sindjin Hawke on 06/04/2011 16:16:04 Originally by: Rouque Vanderbuilt Edited by: Rouque Vanderbuilt on 06/04/2011 16:12:24 waaaaa.... wife comes home..... thx CCP can't play today WTF is up with wife aggro! I HATE it. I feel your pain Bro. I feel your pain. EDIT: CCP, I'm not complaining about the patch/extended downtime... thank you for such a fantastic game!
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:15:00 - [1084] Originally by: Parsival Abon I just checked, and I'm still strikingly handsome. All is well, carry on. QFT In the humble, glowing essence that is EVE, let us take refuge. For though cast out as we now are, we must remind ourselves of the power of it's creator, and that he that giveth may also taketh away. For these long and painful moments of waiting for EVE's radiant, basking warmth to return, remind thineself that absence breeds fondness, the sweeter to make the next reunion. Amen.
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:16:00 - [1085] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: smokeydapot Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: ManiakMogg I WANT FREE SP! Finally some one gets a clue! Thank you! Yes we want retribution for lost gametime CCP, keep your apologies!! What lost time your char(s) are still training STFU and read the EULA You don't get it dont ya??? You never know, it doesnt cost anything to try does it, do you have a problem with free stuff maybe or are you plain stupid? No, No and No. Yes and Yes again
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:16:00 - [1086] People do not just bend over and accept CCP's worthless apologies. Demand retribution by free isk, sp, bonus itme or whatever!!
Lord OfThe Morning	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:16:00 - [1087] Originally by: Gil Warden Originally by: CopperNail keep on hitting the nail always gets things done in the end.. No apologies accepted CCP, give us free ISK, SP or bonus item! No. But what they will give you is free updates and expansions. Certain companies, which shall remain unnamed here, charge the equivalent of about 3 months game time for expansions. AND they decided to not include 30 days of game time with the last unnamed expansion. I swear I spent more time each month refreshing the Realm Status page than I have ever sat waiting for a CCP expansion to be released. No internet spaceships for me right now? Well, I guess I'll get back to work and try to do something productive and avoid getting fired.
eyesofgod	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:16:00 - [1088] ok this is gay free sp now ccp or i kill ships in jita pay now concord needs to die aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Rouque Vanderbuilt Caldari EON Technologies NEW.ORDER	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:16:00 - [1089] CCP says 1800 ok... and the Day ?? 7,8,9 ???
Eve Alabell	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:16:00 - [1090] Originally by: TerrorNudel Der Server schon online? kann kein Patch runterladen. ^^ you should speak english :D but no the servers are offline until the next two hours... 20:00 in germany.

Lentra Qin	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:16:00 - [1091] Originally by: Gil Warden Originally by: Ana Naari CCP, as you don't seem able to stick to extended downtime schedules, why don't you just double your woefully overoptimistic estimates? Had you said downtime would be 12 hours, we wouldn't be here complaining that Tranquility is up 3 hours early. Just a thought. If they set the DT to 12 hours BEFORE they started, they'd have a revolt anyway :) lol Probably. :)
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:16:00 - [1092] Where do so many of you magnificent troglodytes get this strange sense of entitlement? So the patch is going to take a little longer. Big deal. If your mental stability is that upset by a few hours you should seriously reevaluate where you are going in life. Way to act like a bunch of short bus jockeys.
Solaris Void	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:17:00 - [1093] anyone got a link to the eve radio station? i love that downtime song
Alexandrlll	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:17:00 - [1094] 2 more hours to wait ...
SenshiMaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:17:00 - [1095] Originally by: smokeydapot If he goes to play wow, can i have his stuff?
Awesome Possum Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:17:00 - [1096] Originally by: AxelFuller I loves it I do :) Nothing unusual on this thread for a patch day however I feel some of the whiners have been unanswered and deserve a response really :P the posts IÆm talking about is those asking for refund/compensation for the downtime, normally some smarty pants throws out some simple maths to explain what they would be entitled to resulting in just a few cents, please oh please can someone post that message with the calculations I love it :) OH WAIT I HAVE TIME HERE GOES $15 per month x 12 months = $180 $180 divided by 365 days in a year = 0.49 cents per day 0.49 cents divided by 24 hours in a day = 0.02 cents per hour Downtime at worst going to be 10 hours 10 hours x 0.02 cents = 0.20 cents refund due, mail me your paypal account and IÆll send it right away :) Look at me maa i did some maths yay for me i like you ♥
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:17:00 - [1097] http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch237081-245651_m.exe
EliteWarlord	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:17:00 - [1098] Originally by: CopperNail People do not just bend over and accept CCP's worthless apologies. Demand retribution by free isk, sp, bonus itme or whatever!! keep on hitting that nail I promise you it wont budge :) but hey thanks for participating in patch day :)
Sung mai Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:17:00 - [1099] Brb, doing more laundry :D The hamsters. They faint. Every 15 minutes after downtime.
Dunikan	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:18:00 - [1100] It's always great to see everyone b*tching and moaning because of extended downtimes or downtimes in general

Tyness	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:18:00 - [1101] CCP: dTbutant
Peter Grayson	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:18:00 - [1102] Edited by: Peter Grayson on 06/04/2011 16:18:17 Damn!, during this extended DT i would have found Tobia's Ship in a belt and he certainly would have dropped a Tobia's X-large shield Booosterà so CCP owe me at least 3B
Bootsy 79	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:18:00 - [1103] Damn...i am just happy to have a long skill in que...It is always the same...everytime they make an update they have to extend the DT again and again. Why don¦t they shut down one day and give it back to our accounts? Everyone would be happy. Maybe it¦s just to easy? ;-)
Tekka Caldari Sneaky Beaver	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:18:00 - [1104] When the airline makes me wait, they give me free food. When my dentist makes me wait I get free tickets to the movie. When CCP makes me wait, I just feel **ing groovy. Dance ***es. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:18:00 - [1105] Originally by: Dana Kait Edited by: Dana Kait on 06/04/2011 16:14:08 Originally by: Mrs Winter Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... I agree. I dont have 8 accounts, but I do like the idea of having the next patch right in the middle of US peak. That or let aussie players train 1.01 times faster than everyone else... sigh, if the American on JST is not complaining, then there is something wrong with your outlook. I've played FFXI for almost 4 years now while living on EST and dealing with downtimes during peak US time or updates that took forever to download and god knows what else and didnt complain once. Servers need to be fixed from time to time, new content gets added from time to time. Devs are human, they make mistakes, errors happen, blah blah blah. Take a deep breathe, relax and try to find something to occupy the extra time. I for one am watching Doctor Who (old series eps), while checking for updates on the situation. Remember the recent update where the scheduled downtime was 18 hours and it STILL got extended (even though it was only like 30 mins) This is nothing, the tear harvesting going on is win
Spyke BlackIce Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:18:00 - [1106] Crap. I didn't realize until it was too late that the downtime was scheduled earlier than usual. One of my accounts only had 8 hours of training when I tried to log on this morning. I figured I'd just get a late start (I'm self-employed) and jump on as soon as the server came up. Then they extended it again and I figured they'd get it by then. It's past 18:00 and still no login. I can't postpone much longer and that account is now down to 1 hour 44 minutes. I almost never btch about this stuff but this sucks. Blog: Mortal Immortals - Pods & Footprints in the Dust* Twitter: @Spyke_BlackIce (#TweetFleet) Facebook: facebook.com/spyke.blackice
smokeydapot	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:18:00 - [1107] Originally by: SenshiMaru Originally by: smokeydapot If he goes to play wow, can i have his stuff? He proberbly only has meta 1 items not worth the trade window
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:19:00 - [1108] Originally by: Valmora Jung Originally by: Nikki TheWhite Originally by: CopperNail It doesn't cost a single cent to CCP to enable extra SP, a bonus item or the like.. Demand it now that there is a good reason! and just how much SP do you think your entitled too when your currently even though not able to play still getting SP so why do you deserve more SP its a game guys chill relax, catch some sun or my favourite GO TALK TO SOME GIRLS THEY DONT BITE LOL yes they do And are bossy I just cant wait till I leave Sweden! -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
BEER O'CLOCK	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:19:00 - [1109] i was sick of waiting for ccp so i went and bought gt5 for the ps3 now i dont know how to play that online wtf some1 help me plz play something online before i top myself some of the above may not be true (the topping myself part)
Kato Danzo ICEBOX.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:19:00 - [1110] Originally by: nat longshot Originally by: Mrs Winter Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... I agree. I dont have 8 accounts, but I do like the idea of having the next patch right in the middle of US peak. That or let aussie players train 1.01 times faster than everyone else... i have read this many times now and guess what alot of US player are waiting to. So Grow up. This down time is take away from everyone. Btw i'm from the states and long down time take away from our time playing too now STFU. Go outside and get a life. Stop trying to act like a bad ass over the net most people laugh at you what you try that. As for the long down time its patch day with ccp after 3 years iam use to it. 6pm - after 3am... when your lose those hours, come tell me that you have it just as bad. your probly some bum that has no job, doesnt go to school, and is just sitting at your mums house with nothing better to do. stupid noob.

CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:19:00 - [1111] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Where do so many of you magnificent troglodytes get this strange sense of entitlement? So the patch is going to take a little longer. Big deal. If your mental stability is that upset by a few hours you should seriously reevaluate where you are going in life. Way to act like a bunch of short bus jockeys. goddamn fool, when are people supposed to demand for extra free stuffs if not now?? Dont you get it??? ASK FOR RETRIBUTION
Celfea Dur The Flying Tigers	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:19:00 - [1112] Dammit. Instead of getting to play Eve, I guess I should get back to work! Thanks, CCP...I might actually get some work done today! LOL
Nellz	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:19:00 - [1113] So, I was playing my didge... Some nab outside shouted ''Put a donk on it'' wtf? I thought I'd come back in and document my strange experience... People are weird outside now-a-days.... P.S I've already got the shakes, EVE Withdrawals well set in now..
eyesofgod	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:19:00 - [1114] i am ****ed now to much youtube now i so wanted to kill some miners and others people i need to nap and freee sp ccp need more beer
Aleksis Ambrye	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:19:00 - [1115] As a newb, this is extraordinary. People, there is sun outside, people, REAL people. In the brief time that EVE is down, can't you go out and... live your life? Sheesh.
RTSAvalanche	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:20:00 - [1116] fingers crossed under 1 hour to go.. CCP have been doing pretty damn good lately with their down time estimates - so im pretty confident not much (if any) over time would be needed =]
Snowshowers	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:20:00 - [1117] it is now 17:00 and i can still not get on when i try and log on it says "version incompadable" Ive tried closing and reopening with no success thanks guys
haloboy817	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:20:00 - [1118] Originally by: xhaloboyx Originally by: ryuuzanx lets have a sing along while we wait! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! :D This old Sansha he played cruel. He went out and stole planet goo. With a clip,clap,brrrrap give the Succubus a bomb. This old Sansha went crying home. I demand more music!Delight me
onefineday	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:20:00 - [1119] jesus every time you make a patch every time you are late can you honestly just one finish down time in time, because is just getting ridiculous, all the versions of eve you released never came on time you always plan but newer keep to you word is just honestly waste of our time
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:21:00 - [1120] Edited by: henchana on 06/04/2011 16:22:14 MUSIC as ordered ten green shuttles hangin out in space ten green shuttles hangin out in space and if one green shuttle accidently pods there are nine green shuttles hanging out in space! the weighted information value of this post is nil, zilch and nada or niente but so it happends to be with almost all the others too.... Back to work ccp.

Slaangani Gallente Psychedelic Party	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:21:00 - [1121] Originally by: Daenna Chrysi Originally by: Slaangani oh god! This means i have to talk to the wife... and you could even get to hang around with your kids Really? please dont make me
Bootsy 79	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:22:00 - [1122] Great....now waiting till 8pm...f*** it.
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:22:00 - [1123] If after this extended DT we do not get any retribution for it by a bonus item, isk or sp it will be because: A. CCP doesn't give a **** about its subscribers B. Subscribers are to dumb to ask for it! C. No one cares
mishro manna Minmatar Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:22:00 - [1124] Edited by: mishro manna on 06/04/2011 16:22:31 Dubs decides if we get SP or not... doubles GET!!!1 edit: dang, no dubs
Awesome Possum Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:22:00 - [1125] Originally by: CopperNail If after this extended DT we do not get any retribution for it by a bonus item, isk or sp it will be because: A. CCP doesn't give a **** about its subscribers B. Subscribers are to dumb to ask for it! C. No one cares shut up idiot ♥
Camelund	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:22:00 - [1126] My only problem with the downtime is the fact that I pulled a sickie today to play alllllll day and wife is out for the evening meaning I could play allllllll night. Next time before I get bunged up with a cold/Man Flu always check the update schedule!
Nikki TheWhite	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:22:00 - [1127] I have to thank CCP for this day, the most communication i have had with other EVE players in a long time. Now why do so many corps not communicate like this more often it makes EVE so much more fun :) link becuase i'm an ahole he believes im more important than everyone else Keep up the good work CCP
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:22:00 - [1128] Originally by: Aethyreal Originally by: Dana Kait Edited by: Dana Kait on 06/04/2011 16:14:08 Originally by: Mrs Winter Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... I agree. I dont have 8 accounts, but I do like the idea of having the next patch right in the middle of US peak. That or let aussie players train 1.01 times faster than everyone else... sigh, if the American on JST is not complaining, then there is something wrong with your outlook. I've played FFXI for almost 4 years now while living on EST and dealing with downtimes during peak US time or updates that took forever to download and god knows what else and didnt complain once. Servers need to be fixed from time to time, new content gets added from time to time. Devs are human, they make mistakes, errors happen, blah blah blah. Take a deep breathe, relax and try to find something to occupy the extra time. I for one am watching Doctor Who (old series eps), while checking for updates on the situation. Remember the recent update where the scheduled downtime was 18 hours and it STILL got extended (even though it was only like 30 mins) This is nothing, the tear harvesting going on is win that's nothing. Earthquake in Japan, Square enix shut down FFXI and FF14 servers for over a week. I understood why and how. But it was amazing to see the amount of QQ and tears over a humanitarian effort.
Templar Knightsbane	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:22:00 - [1129] Hey this patch is gonna let me change my portrait for free! and fix issues with icons on mac WOOOP and new sunglasses how can u not wait just a little bit longer? Save ya complaining for the Dust514 patch LOLOLOL
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:23:00 - [1130] Originally by: Peter Grayson Edited by: Peter Grayson on 06/04/2011 16:18:17 Damn!, during this extended DT i would have found Tobia's Ship in a belt and he certainly would have dropped a Tobia's X-large shield Booosterà so CCP owe me at least 3B Epic Fail Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.

smoking gun81	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:23:00 - [1131] Originally by: Aleksis Ambrye As a newb, this is extraordinary. People, there is sun outside, people, REAL people. In the brief time that EVE is down, can't you go out and... live your life? Sheesh. Real actual people eeww they scare me I still have to train person interaction to 5 and convrsation to 4 befor im any good with real actual people
Running sin	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:23:00 - [1132] going to laugh when its around 18:00 they extend it for another hour o well ether way those who make RTM or bot mine are going to have problems
nat longshot	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:23:00 - [1133] Originally by: Kato Danzo Originally by: nat longshot Originally by: Mrs Winter Originally by: Kato Danzo 18.00???? This is a joke right???? 9 hours of downtime.... Aussies get screwed again.... How about moving an extended DT to US peak time????? THIS IS RUBBISH! I WANT MY $4 Back for my 8 accounts that didnt get to play eve today.... I agree. I dont have 8 accounts, but I do like the idea of having the next patch right in the middle of US peak. That or let aussie players train 1.01 times faster than everyone else... i have read this many times now and guess what alot of US player are waiting to. So Grow up. This down time is take away from everyone. Btw i'm from the states and long down time take away from our time playing too now STFU. Go outside and get a life. Stop trying to act like a bad ass over the net most people laugh at you what you try that. As for the long down time its patch day with ccp after 3 years iam use to it. 6pm - after 3am... when your lose those hours, come tell me that you have it just as bad. your probly some bum that has no job, doesnt go to school, and is just sitting at your mums house with nothing better to do. stupid noob. i have a life and a job **** weed. i have a day off. Now i laugh at you trying to ask like a bad ass on the net hahaha. Rule of thumb with patch day Train a long skill. Its only a game. Now that beening said iam 37 and have a full life. Go rub one out and relax NOOB.
Tereliss Verr Minmatar Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:23:00 - [1134] Originally by: AxelFuller heres something for you to do Я люблю КПК Go translate it I love you too
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [1135] Originally by: Awesome Possum Originally by: CopperNail If after this extended DT we do not get any retribution for it by a bonus item, isk or sp it will be because: A. CCP doesn't give a **** about its subscribers B. Subscribers are to dumb to ask for it! C. No one cares shut up idiot Guess you work for Blizzard?
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [1136] I get bored easily.... can't help it A pregnant goldfish is called a twit. In the 1983 film "JAWS 3D" the shark blows up. Some of the shark guts were the stuffed ET dolls being sold at the time. In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak. Napoleon constructed his battle plans in a sandbox. Orcas (killer whales) kill sharks by torpedoing up into the shark's stomach from underneath, causing the shark to explode. Like i said, I get bored easily.
Hroya	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [1137] Originally by: Aleksis Ambrye As a newb, this is extraordinary. People, there is sun outside, people, REAL people. In the brief time that EVE is down, can't you go out and... live your life? Sheesh. Yet you went back inside and took your time to check on the game and come here to post this reply
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [1138] now that extended down time has ben extended 2 times and now i am screwed out of another day play time is ccp going to reimburse players for loss of service for today or do we need to cancel our accounts and find a new game that dont screw us time is money
Kato Danzo ICEBOX.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [1139] 10k sp per 1 hour after scheduled server online that the server is infact not online. motivation!
L0rdF1end	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [1140] Wow.. shocking it is to read how addicted to a computer game most of you are. No amount of ***ing is going to change the fact the server is down. Get a life and go do something else with your day rather than sit at your computer repeatedly checking Eve client to see if the server is up. What a waste of life. Go embrace life and have a thought for those not as well off as you. I've never seen such a bunch of homo loosers *** about a computer game so bad, it's like its the end of the world. Well it isn't real, about time some of you learnt that.

eyesofgod	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [1141] well this patch better be good and to ccp i want free stuff for wasting my time wft 3 hours
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [1142] Originally by: CopperNail If after this extended DT we do not get any retribution for it by a bonus item, isk or sp it will be because: A. CCP doesn't give a **** about its subscribers B. Subscribers are to dumb to ask for it! C. No one cares It does not matter how you say it your nail is not going to go in. LOL you've said it over a dozen times now in different ways, same mssage same response :)
Locutus ofBorg Caldari Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus New Horizon Enterprise's	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:25:00 - [1143] ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr!
Soi Mala Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:26:00 - [1144] I demand the taliban is wiped out quicker! My taxes pay you soldiers wages! I demand you open the bakers now! Stop cleaning, you can do that when i sleep! I pay you good money for that bread! Perform that open heart surgery quicker! I'm not paying you to ***** about with it! Get the Servers up now! I paid for that server farm so i deserve to use it!
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:26:00 - [1145] Originally by: CopperNail boohoohoo I am a petulant child with no life and I want free stuff! If you don't gimme free stuff I'll sit here and shake my fists in impotent nerd rage and whine about how unfair life is over a video game. Just how closely related were your parents? Is there a coat hanger shaped scar on you somewhere? What the hell is wrong with your brain because it seems to work about as well as something put together by a public works committee.
Iko Polaris	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:26:00 - [1146] Beardyman is awesome thanks for the link :D
flint dragon	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:26:00 - [1147] Originally by: wolftkilla :L They pospone the startup, again, Damn this is like deja vu, few months this happened, and a few months before then.. Oh well, not a long time if it was a week that'd be another thing.. 2 hours, nothing to cry about... Next time you do this though say you'll be starting up 4 hours after the normal startup time planned, anything before then is a bonus! he has the right ideal
second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:26:00 - [1148] Originally by: onefineday jesus every time you make a patch every time you are late can you honestly just one finish down time in time, because is just getting ridiculous, all the versions of eve you released never came on time you always plan but newer keep to you word is just honestly waste of our time no...not all versions are late...empyrean age was actually early...i want to get on as much as the next guy, but all the whining in the world will not get CCP to act any quicker, so relax and just wait.
Tiberiiax	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:26:00 - [1149] Originally by: Locutus ofBorg ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! I approve. More, please.
Parsival Abon	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:26:00 - [1150] Originally by: Aleksis Ambrye As a newb, this is extraordinary. People, there is sun outside, people, REAL people. In the brief time that EVE is down, can't you go out and... live your life? Sheesh. ...and at least one of them is strikingly handsome.

CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1151] Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing..
mrSebastian	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1152] All the haters here could use this oppurtunity to go outside and smell the real world. Thanks CCP for your hard work and keeping this game going. Its a great past time.
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1153] Dana, oh I know, I still play a bit. I was going to log on to finally finish WotG mission fight against Super Lillith and saw they took down the servers for power saving
MBBD	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1154] Wow. So this is what it's like without EVE. I got stuff done today.
eyesofgod	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1155] ok to much sugger and crack and techno aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa need to play ocd need to play now
Clamis	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1156] CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now.
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1157] This is the most awesome thread yet.... I have it stuck in my head! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr!
nubbintop	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1158] Originally by: L0rdF1end Wow.. shocking it is to read how addicted to a computer game most of you are. No amount of ***ing is going to change the fact the server is down. Get a life and go do something else with your day rather than sit at your computer repeatedly checking Eve client to see if the server is up. What a waste of life. Go embrace life and have a thought for those not as well off as you. I've never seen such a bunch of homo loosers *** about a computer game so bad, it's like its the end of the world. Well it isn't real, about time some of you learnt that. u mad bro?
Nikki TheWhite	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1159] JUST HAD A PANIC ATTACK RAN OUT OF WHINERS TO QUOTE WHAT TO DO NEXT OH WAIT I FORGOT TO REFRESH
Youcanlook Butdonttouch	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:27:00 - [1160] Grass is Green! So is Snot! I am Here, But EVE is not!

Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:28:00 - [1161] Edited by: Athena reekoo on 06/04/2011 16:31:27 Originally by: Aleksis Ambrye As a newb, this is extraordinary. People, there is sun outside, people, REAL people. In the brief time that EVE is down, can't you go out and... live your life? Sheesh. i don't log on to eve. i log on to the forum on patch day... much more fun.
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:28:00 - [1162] Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime.
Hroya	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:28:00 - [1163] Originally by: Nikki TheWhite JUST HAD A PANIC ATTACK RAN OUT OF WHINERS TO QUOTE WHAT TO DO NEXT OH WAIT I FORGOT TO REFRESH mwahahahaha
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:28:00 - [1164] I guess the 16:00 go live didn't happen then...? What's the new wait time?
Talonos Ma Hostilis Civitas	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:28:00 - [1165] Edited by: Talonos Ma on 06/04/2011 16:29:24 Originally by: Xan'thi La'aye I Naget bored easily.... can't help it In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak. In fact, he or she is allowed to speak - to call out names or to keep order, which might come in handy in here.
5mok1ng gun	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1166] Edited by: 5mok1ng gun on 06/04/2011 16:29:17 Keep up the whine people i love it
Tiberiiax	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1167] Originally by: Modeaus I guess the 16:00 go live didn't happen then...? What's the new wait time? 18:00
Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1168] Now this is the story all about how My Badger II got flipped, turned upside down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the fresh meat of a system called luminaire It was in the space lane's I was born & raised In the state war academy where I spent most of my days Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some concord outside of the school When a couple of drakes they were up to no good Started making trouble in my neighbourhood I got in one little fight and a mom got scared And corp recruiter said grab your gear your going to luminaire! I whistled for an orca and when it came near the License plate said "fresh meat" and had a ice in the mirror If anything I could say that this orca was rare But I thought nah, forget it, yo homes to Luminaire I pulled up to a gate about seven or eight And I yelled to the corpie "Yo, homes kill you later!" Looked at my system I was finally there To sit on my throne as the fresh meat of luminaire.
LightMeUpJohnny	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1169] Edited by: LightMeUpJohnny on 06/04/2011 16:32:08 Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Unsub then, no one will miss you, just like we don't miss anyone that unsubs.
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1170] Originally by: Clamis CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. ok point taken

flint dragon	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1171] Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: CopperNail If after this extended DT we do not get any retribution for it by a bonus item, isk or sp it will be because: A. CCP doesn't give a **** about its subscribers B. Subscribers are to dumb to ask for it! C. No one cares It does not matter how you say it your nail is not going to go in. LOL you've said it over a dozen times now in different ways, same mssage same response :) D] all the above
Kalagaeth Peledaen	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1172] Hell I run 5 accounts, 2 of which aren't training, am I ***ing, Hell yeah! I'm ***ing because CCP hasn't fixed the REST of it! Let downtime take a week if that's what they need to do to make the game better for all of us. This is an awesome game, and they are making it even better with these patches! I will happily forgive the time they force me to spend in RL with other people... as long as it's back up sometime. :P CCP, the game is awesome, keep it up!
nat longshot	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1173] Originally by: Kato Danzo 10k sp per 1 hour after scheduled server online that the server is infact not online. motivation! Even on patch day all skills keep training how long you been playing? Not long given what you just said. Skill train even on patch day.
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1174] Originally by: Clamis CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. CopperNail is getting boring now. I like you Thought i'd add to it
Jakk Grundigg	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:29:00 - [1175] The current time and date in (UTC/GMT) is 16:28 06 April 2011 oh wait.. its up ..... the spout?
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:30:00 - [1176] Originally by: Xan'thi La'aye This is the most awesome thread yet.... I have it stuck in my head! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr! lol ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:30:00 - [1177] Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts.
Christian Otsolen	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:30:00 - [1178] Damn, they keep changing the time. 15:00 to 16:00 to 18:00... For now, everyone sing along! ohhhhhhhh if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr!
Vairam'Hiristicrat' Yekq	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:30:00 - [1179] +2h bump
Crysis Elegante	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:30:00 - [1180] Originally by: LightMeUpJohnny Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Unsub then, no one will miss you, just like we don't miss anyone that unsubs. +1

second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:30:00 - [1181] Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actually a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. then unsubscribe... your absence will be most appreciated, and you will not be missed
Kerr avonn Minmatar Standard By 10	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:30:00 - [1182] Originally by: CopperNail If after this extended DT we do not get any retribution for it by a bonus item, isk or sp it will be because: A. CCP doesn't give a **** about its subscribers B. Subscribers are to dumb to ask for it! C. No one cares Do STFU
Renan Ruivo Caldari Hipernova Tribal Conclave	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:31:00 - [1183] Originally by: eyesofgod well this patch better be good and to ccp i want free stuff for wasting my time wft 3 hours And what do you call the hours you play EVE? ____________ I like woman because breasts
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:31:00 - [1184] Mighty CareBear says CCP should just send out an e-mail to everyone when patch days are going to run long that would keep the crap about what time is eve going to be back up to a min LOL
Darth Vanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:31:00 - [1185] I'd like to see any of you do any better than CCP does They have made this game superb! It has the brightest future of any game at all. PLUS it is just the 'ticket' to really taking a cool look at how we are potentially going to act in space .... if anyone else moans, grumbles, wails, whinges, mithers or any other .. take a look at Japan before you continue plz
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:31:00 - [1186] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime. OMG you are so clueless its almost funny, ****
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:32:00 - [1187] Originally by: This Suxbad Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts. you missed the 20-40% of posters just repsonding becuase it amuses us constantly quote other peoples remarks
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:32:00 - [1188] 5 mil isk on that this topic will go over 100 pages ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
DODGE CITY	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:32:00 - [1189] look if you go to grocery store you want what you pay for nothing more nothing less ccp is stealing my online game time that i paid real money for not fake isk or candy dreams i paid real cash money for something they cant deliver those of you who say get a life wtf you doing on here bi***ing get off and do real life things then and shut up
Lord OfThe Morning	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:32:00 - [1190] Originally by: Slaangani oh god! This means i have to talk to the wife... LMAO You know, as much as I prefer patches and downtimes to happen while I am at work during the day, I could earn some serious brownie points with the wife if a patch were rolled out after work. Don't tell her about the downtime. Throw one of those sparkly vampire movies in the Blu-Ray player for her to watch, then do the dishes, iron some laundry... be husband of the year while my PI extractors and skills tally up offline.

Jakk Grundigg	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:32:00 - [1191] Originally by: Christian Otsolen Damn, they keep changing the time. 15:00 to 16:00 to 18:00... For now, everyone sing along! ohhhhhhhh if you're happy and you know it pod Amarr if you cannot find Caldari pod Amarr cause the Mimi are too thrifty and Gallente are too shifty the Joves are just too risky pod Amarr! edited for grammatical correctness.
onefineday	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:33:00 - [1192] its actualy no point writing in here they still don`t reply because they don`t care luck people they cant even update down time time in a forum bunch of arrogant bas...
Khmoud Hasjiz	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:33:00 - [1193] Think of it this way, atleast russian Bots cant make isk today \o/ keep it up CCP
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:33:00 - [1194] Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: This Suxbad Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts. you missed the 20-40% of posters just repsonding becuase it amuses us constantly quote other peoples remarks Ah Ha and the 25% of us trying to get someone to repost our comment :)
Von Sectizer	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:33:00 - [1195] Ima Chargin' Ma' Lazer! CCP.
SkyBladez	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:33:00 - [1196] How About you guys stop whining and live with it cause simply, from 7 years till now, none of the new patches got released in time. whats new? nothing is new. we all ***** about cpp being late all the time and bla bla bla .....and then we enter the game download the patch and continue playing..so nothing change. nothing is new. wait for them to finish, cause, you cant do anything about that but to whine and whine. after all , they are releasing and fixing stuff to our benefits. so no money is waste here. talking about 8 hours DT? or even 12 so what? get some real life stuff and some sleep, wake up , play eve.
Meatay Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1197] Originally by: Khmoud Hasjiz Think of it this way, atleast russian Bots cant make isk today \o/ keep it up CCP One way to stop 'em ----------------------------------------------
flint dragon	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1198] hi most of us just like to bit h ccp u do a great job keep up the good work we would like free sp plz
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1199] Originally by: Major Slaphead Now this is the story all about how My Badger II got flipped, turned upside down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the fresh meat of a system called luminaire It was in the space lane's I was born & raised In the state war academy where I spent most of my days Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some concord outside of the school When a couple of drakes they were up to no good Started making trouble in my neighbourhood I got in one little fight and a mom got scared And corp recruiter said grab your gear your going to luminaire! I whistled for an orca and when it came near the License plate said "fresh meat" and had a ice in the mirror If anything I could say that this orca was rare But I thought nah, forget it, yo homes to Luminaire I pulled up to a gate about seven or eight And I yelled to the corpie "Yo, homes kill you later!" Looked at my system I was finally there To sit on my throne as the fresh meat of luminaire. nice :P
EliteWarlord	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1200] IMPORTANT MESSAGE IF YOU KEEP SEEING THIS SAME MESSAGE "You are going too fast! Wait two minutes and try again." YOUR HAVING AS MUCH FUN AS ME WE SHOULD START "THE 2 MINUTE CLUB" EDIT: Pre post edit just got it again :)

Oovarvu	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1201] coppernail, CCP have authorized me to fully compensate you for your lost game time. convo me in-game in 5 mins to claim your dues.
General Kwan	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1202] For all the whiners and whingers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL9mSQ7VGs
Randae Namero	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1203] I have never seen such a collection of whine asses in one forum. If you don't like the daily DT - Get over it. It's 1 hour. Go outside, read, clean all the **** off your desk. If you don't like the new features, you're just spoiled and can't be pleased. And if you can't handle an 18-20 hour patch time, try this place: www.HelloKittyOnline.com - it's more your caliber. I mean, really? it happens what, once every 3-4 months? Do you forget that this patch time improves the game? And I do not care where your from, 24 hour maintenance probably does you good if you can't handle 1 day away from Eve. And compensation? GTFO with that noise. Only thing you're "entitled" to is to play the game on CCPs terms. Company isn't perfect, but you name one company that is. TL;DR - Shut the hell up and wait / deal with it.
VladTeppes	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1204] definitely not going to get any sort of an item as compensation for an extended downtime - the fact that it has been extended is to help optimize the game and correct any existing issues from the patch - this alone should suffice as a "gift". Unless you enjoy logging in and say, run a mission when suddenly you start experiencing lag-spikes or freezes which could result in losing a ship. Or, potentially logging in, moving items around only to find that some of them vanish. These are only a couple examples that would make opening up the server prematurely cause more distress than simply waiting for the extended downtime.
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1205] Originally by: onefineday its actualy no point writing in here they still don`t reply because they don`t care luck people they cant even update down time time in a forum bunch of arrogant bas... What the hell did you say
Simanti	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:34:00 - [1206] Damn I'm handsome - and thanks to the extended DT I don't smell too bad either.
LightMeUpJohnny	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1207] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime. OMG you are so much more awesome than me its almost sad, **** fixed
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1208] Just lol. These threads usually tend to give a nice overview of the intelligence of the human being. not. So ... most of you will agree that ... ... there are plenty of players who REALLY don't have a life. That includes ppl who go to work (and those who don't -> worse) That also includes ppl who whine about having to talk to their wifes. Excuse me ? That's the worst ... how low-life can one be to talk like this about his wife. You married her / live with her. Your fault. Seriously, you suck. She has feelings too. I bet she's not really happy about an idiot sitting in front of the computer all day because he just can't manage his life. I hope you guys don't have kids. ... there also are plenty of players who realise that there's way more. Some cleaning their bikes, the house, whatever. These seem to play EvE more in their free-time and use this time to do stuff they would have done sometime else (or maybe not) but they seem to realise that "I do it now so i can play later". "I have a life too and it's interesting enough to fill it with other stuff than a game" Smart. ... there are players who post just because it's awesomely funny to read what all the low/no-lifes post (read: *** and whine about). Fully understandable for me, as there's plenty of reason to be amused about ppl who do not have a life worth living. Altough, tbh ... it's pretty sad too. Personally, i find it interesting to see the demographics. I'm definitly against refunds, except the DT gets really worse. Not that i'd demand them, but they'd be a nice present anyway if things seriously get out of hands. People repeating to post "I WANT REFUNDS BLABLA" should consider leaving the computer and instead watch some TV, which seems perfectly fitting for these kind of people. TV can't harm your brain or character anymore anyway. I understand that there are several severely sick persons who can't partake in a life of their own ... or a life they would have wanted. I am totally excluding these from my words and am seriously apologizing if you felt offended ... but the rest, who COULD but just doesn't CARE ... ... please don't breed. You'd make the world a better place. oh and there's the guy who reads the patch-day-thread to post about the ppl who he believes are funny/idiots/just stealing his oxygen ... in the hope of at least **ing ONE character off ... for his own and the amusement of those who have a life ... ... or to maybe enlighten somebody (haha, sure ... ). (i love patch-day-threads ^^) (besides, these are the best threads for long posts ^^)
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1209] Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: This Suxbad Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts. you missed the 20-40% of posters just repsonding becuase it amuses us constantly quote other peoples remarks You forgot about the 74% jerking off to the psychological pain being inflicted upon them by the adrenalin pumping delay.
onefineday	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1210] Originally by: Meatay Originally by: Khmoud Hasjiz Think of it this way, atleast russian Bots cant make isk today \o/ keep it up CCP One way to stop 'em i woud say northen cualition bots cant make isk today be cause as we go to northen bordes you can fly plenty bots flaing araund

Murk Loar O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1211] Originally by: Khmoud Hasjiz Think of it this way, atleast russian Bots cant make isk today \o/ keep it up CCP So this is it...This is CCP's final solution to combating the bot problem,keeping the server switched to off.Well played dear sirs.
Daenna Chrysi Amarr Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1212] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retribution for those that keep demanding retribution for long DT... I dont think it is the word you are looking for.
Delkana Fox	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1213] Originally by: eyesofgod well this patch better be good and to ccp i want free stuff for wasting my time wft 3 hours I don't want free stuff, I want a game that works and doesn't crash 20 minutes after the patch goes live, (which has happened many times). If it takes an extra hour or 2 to make sure "Twitchy" the massive Tranquility hamster doesn't have a heart attack than so be it.
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1214] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime. OMG you are so clueless its almost funny, **** I'm sorry, how am I clueless? Are you saying you really will unsubscribe? Well, that would be great news. Hey guys. Turns out I am clueless. Coppernail really is going to unsubscribe, so let the festivities begin!
Lord o'Darkness	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1215] Edited by: Lord o''Darkness on 06/04/2011 16:36:07 Originally by: Khmoud Hasjiz Think of it this way, atleast russian Bots cant make isk today \o/ keep it up CCP This explains it! It's CCP's new plan to deal with botting edit: Murk Loar beat me to it, but it must be the truth!
smoking gun81	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:35:00 - [1216] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime. OMG you are so clueless its almost funny, **** profanity will get you no where copper, just unsub and get it over and done with some people can see beyond a bit of extra down time.......
Jakk Grundigg	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:36:00 - [1217] CCP's war on Macro bots had gone just a little too well....
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:36:00 - [1218] Originally by: Randae Namero I have never seen such a collection of whine asses in one forum. If you don't like the daily DT - Get over it. It's 1 hour. Go outside, read, clean all the **** off your desk. If you don't like the new features, you're just spoiled and can't be pleased. And if you can't handle an 18-20 hour patch time, try this place: www.HelloKittyOnline.com - it's more your caliber. I mean, really? it happens what, once every 3-4 months? Do you forget that this patch time improves the game? And I do not care where your from, 24 hour maintenance probably does you good if you can't handle 1 day away from Eve. And compensation? GTFO with that noise. Only thing you're "entitled" to is to play the game on CCPs terms. Company isn't perfect, but you name one company that is. TL;DR - Shut the hell up and wait / deal with it. so you've never been in TEST then...
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:36:00 - [1219] Originally by: DODGE CITY look if you go to grocery store you want what you pay for nothing more nothing less ccp is stealing my online game time that i paid real money for not fake isk or candy dreams i paid real cash money for something they cant deliver those of you who say get a life wtf you doing on here bi***ing get off and do real life things then and shut up hmmm what would you do if you went to that grocery store and had to quick for 30 minutes instead of 5 minutes when you go to the checkout, would you demand free milk LMAO, jokes on you my fried Pre Post Edit : "2 minute club" member here, where do i sign
Crysis Elegante	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:36:00 - [1220] Originally by: LightMeUpJohnny Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime. OMG you are so much more awesome than me its almost sad, **** fixed ^^ this

Grognard Charante	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:36:00 - [1221] merglypook...
Mortesque McCay	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:36:00 - [1222] Originally by: Major Slaphead Now this is the story all about how My Badger II got flipped, turned upside down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the fresh meat of a system called luminaire It was in the space lane's I was born & raised In the state war academy where I spent most of my days Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some concord outside of the school When a couple of drakes they were up to no good Started making trouble in my neighbourhood I got in one little fight and a mom got scared And corp recruiter said grab your gear your going to luminaire! I whistled for an orca and when it came near the License plate said "fresh meat" and had a ice in the mirror If anything I could say that this orca was rare But I thought nah, forget it, yo homes to Luminaire I pulled up to a gate about seven or eight And I yelled to the corpie "Yo, homes kill you later!" Looked at my system I was finally there To sit on my throne as the fresh meat of luminaire. that is brilliant
Jin Lees	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:36:00 - [1223] Originally by: This Suxbad Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: This Suxbad Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts. you missed the 20-40% of posters just repsonding becuase it amuses us constantly quote other peoples remarks Ah Ha and the 25% of us trying to get someone to repost our comment :) :)
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1224] Originally by: Oovarvu coppernail, CCP have authorized me to fully compensate you for your lost game time. convo me in-game in 5 mins to claim your dues. Only me? You mean ANYONE can convo you for retribution for lost time? Wow thank you good job!
LightMeUpJohnny	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1225] Originally by: smoking gun81 Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime. OMG you are so clueless its almost funny, **** profanity will get you no where copper, just unsub and get it over and done with some people can see beyond a bit of extra down time....... Quoted for truth.
Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1226] Originally by: Mortesque McCay Originally by: Major Slaphead Now this is the story all about how My Badger II got flipped, turned upside down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the fresh meat of a system called luminaire It was in the space lane's I was born & raised In the state war academy where I spent most of my days Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some concord outside of the school When a couple of drakes they were up to no good Started making trouble in my neighbourhood I got in one little fight and a mom got scared And corp recruiter said grab your gear your going to luminaire! I whistled for an orca and when it came near the License plate said "fresh meat" and had a ice in the mirror If anything I could say that this orca was rare But I thought nah, forget it, yo homes to Luminaire I pulled up to a gate about seven or eight And I yelled to the corpie "Yo, homes kill you later!" Looked at my system I was finally there To sit on my throne as the fresh meat of luminaire. that is brilliant I try.
onefineday	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1227] Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: This Suxbad Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts. you missed the 20-40% of posters just repsonding becuase it amuses us constantly quote other peoples remarks You forgot about the 74% jerking off to the psychological pain being inflicted upon them by the adrenalin pumping delay. dude i agry ccp does not give a **** in ower role they know we gona whait because as much i woud love to do so its no other game wich woud be able to compare whit eve, as sad as it is
Rellek Darbley	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1228] Ok people are too busy b**ching about the extended down time. sniffle sniffle cry cry they are late and I have no other life other than playing this game,sniffle sniffle cry cry. sniffle sniffle cry cry, they are keeping me from playing my game,sniffle sniffle cry cry sniffle sniffle cry cry, I want something from them because they took to long to apply the patch that makes the game better for me,sniffle sniffle cry cry sniffle sniffle cry cry, since they took too long I want some ISK, or SP, or something else sniffle sniffle cry cry. if you people are really serious about leaving the game JUST DO IT ALREADY AND QUIT CRYING MORE THAN A 2 YEAR OLD. IF YOU REALLY HAD A SET YOU WOULD LEAVE THE GAME... That would teach them....
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1229] Originally by: Oovarvu coppernail, CCP have authorized me to fully compensate you for your lost game time. convo me in-game in 5 mins to claim your dues. hahaha in 5 minutes they will extend down time another 2 hours
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1230] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime. I wish. We'd be better off for it. And now, a random story. She could vaguely recall the way the wind felt, spreading it's wings down from the mountains and over the plans, so strong that to face it teared the eyes. At the thought she slumped down against the shattered concrete slab, the parking complex crumbling to dust and ruin around her. Still, there was a strange beauty to this new, harsh world. Something the one she had left behind lacked. Sharp edges, smoky skies, the sounds of artillery and gunfire rumbling and cracking in the distance like a thunderstorm. It appealed to her in a way that nothing else could. There was something entirely different about living life like this; each day a struggle against others to survive. She wasn't going to deny that it was, in the end, a very hard way to live, and certainly much shorter than working a nine to five shift at the supermarket. But still... it was more fulfilling. Knowing that the only reason she still breathed was because she earned the right to, against all odds. It was survival at it's basest, something easily taken for granted in an easier life. It made her proud. It made her strong. And she knew that she could never go back to the comforts and restrictions of normal life and still be sane. All she lived for now was to line up the sights of her rifle and fire it at an unquestioned enemy, to end their live to further hers. There were no moral doubts, no right or wrong, no endless legalities to consider and wade through. There was only what needed to be done, and if you failed then you died. It was simple, harsh, bleak... and she loved it.

elegance refined	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1231] WOOT WOOT !!!!!!! extended dt is good ,,,, just discovered my woman is buck naked when she takes a shower score one for the man team
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:37:00 - [1232] gimme 43 baby ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
Son Tetra	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:38:00 - [1233] Who's up for some Dota?
Locutus ofBorg Caldari Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus New Horizon Enterprise's	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:38:00 - [1234] Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: This Suxbad Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts. Indeed you missed the 20-40% of posters just repsonding becuase it amuses us constantly quote other peoples remarks
Murk Loar O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:38:00 - [1235] Originally by: Simanti Damn I'm handsome - and thanks to the extended DT I don't smell too bad either. I would go out with me.Hell,who wouldn't be attracted to a body fueled purely by 2 litres of iced coffee and 30 cigarettes a day.
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:38:00 - [1236] I'm a little ticked that this thing is censoring my name. Richard, or **, is my middle name. Would it be better if my character was named Pain McAngerfist? What about my alt I started, Hammer** McSlambang? Oh well. Nothing to go demanding free crap over.
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:38:00 - [1237] Originally by: onefineday Originally by: Meatay Originally by: Khmoud Hasjiz Think of it this way, atleast russian Bots cant make isk today \o/ keep it up CCP One way to stop 'em i woud say northen cualition bots cant make isk today be cause as we go to northen bordes you can fly plenty bots flaing araund Please at least attempt to learn better English if you insist on talking.
Chai'mera	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:39:00 - [1238] Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. If you're really that unhappy.. drop your last comment in the bucket, say bye to people who really couldnt care less what you do with your own time, unsubscribe your account and go find another game. No one on here really gives two ****s what you do, we all agreed to the EULA, and as such move on with our lives, quit crying. Most of us are adults, and you're atleast what, 6? Life isnt fair, figured you'd learn that a long time ago.. My 3 year old knows that lesson already. GTF over it, and move on.. less QQ and more PEW PEW when the game comes back online.. Aside from that, how's life for everyone else?
Crysis Elegante	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:39:00 - [1239] Originally by: onefineday Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: This Suxbad Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts. you missed the 20-40% of posters just repsonding becuase it amuses us constantly quote other peoples remarks You forgot about the 74% jerking off to the psychological pain being inflicted upon them by the adrenalin pumping delay. dude i agry ccp does not give a **** in ower role they know we gona whait because as much i woud love to do so its no other game wich woud be able to compare whit eve, as sad as it is What can I say! ^^
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:39:00 - [1240] Originally by: 0'o'0 Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: This Suxbad Forum update: 24% posters unrealisticly complaining 22% posters unrealisticly trying to explain to above 30% posters trying to figure out time 07% posters praising ccp 15% posters trolling 12% posters have no clue total 110% = to amount ccp doesnt care about your posts. you missed the 20-40% of posters just repsonding becuase it amuses us constantly quote other peoples remarks You forgot about the 74% jerking off to the psychological pain being inflicted upon them by the adrenalin pumping delay. ok i normally put lol to things but **** me bro i actually couldn't help but laugh hard at this

This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:39:00 - [1241] Originally by: elegance refined WOOT WOOT !!!!!!! extended dt is good ,,,, just discovered my woman is buck naked when she takes a shower score one for the man team ummm and you assumed that she wouldn't be? whew you win short bus prize of day
lord 2evil	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:39:00 - [1242] wut?
affronter	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:39:00 - [1243] Retribution? Hahaha. Is that what Webster uses instead of 'compensation'? Man alive...
LightMeUpJohnny	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:40:00 - [1244] Originally by: Chai'mera Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. If you're really that unhappy.. drop your last comment in the bucket, say bye to people who really couldnt care less what you do with your own time, unsubscribe your account and go find another game. No one on here really gives two ****s what you do, we all agreed to the EULA, and as such move on with our lives, quit crying. Most of us are adults, and you're atleast what, 6? Life isnt fair, figured you'd learn that a long time ago.. My 3 year old knows that lesson already. GTF over it, and move on.. less QQ and more PEW PEW when the game comes back online.. Aside from that, how's life for everyone else? +1 his parents pay for his subscription so they don't have to spend time with their mistake.
Sora De'Quasar Minmatar Cosmodynamics	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:40:00 - [1245] I sware you guys, the song writing here is better then the originals. there should be a forum only for eve song writings :P this is far my fav: "if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr!" :) def gonna put it on my bio LOL
Kush Bluestar Caldari Kindred Oracles of Justice	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:40:00 - [1246] I don't think I have ever witnessed such whining and whimpering....Grow up people!!!
Locutus ofBorg Caldari Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus New Horizon Enterprise's	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:40:00 - [1247] 3 Minmatar have a race to see who can get to the center of a star first, who wins? Society.
MBBD	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:40:00 - [1248] A Gallente pilot and a Sisters of Eve Nun walk into a bar. The Nun says "hey look at that Caldari Pilot, he has a tatoo of one of my sisters on his arm!" The Gallente Pilot replies... "Add your own punch line here"
smoking gun81	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:41:00 - [1249] Originally by: Chai'mera Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. If you're really that unhappy.. drop your last comment in the bucket, say bye to people who really couldnt care less what you do with your own time, unsubscribe your account and go find another game. No one on here really gives two ****s what you do, we all agreed to the EULA, and as such move on with our lives, quit crying. Most of us are adults, and you're atleast what, 6? Life isnt fair, figured you'd learn that a long time ago.. My 3 year old knows that lesson already. GTF over it, and move on.. less QQ and more PEW PEW when the game comes back online.. Aside from that, how's life for everyone else? hold on hes 6 quick ccp remove his account he is a minor and un able to understand the EULA...........
Jorgen Bekian	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:41:00 - [1250] Things I've done during this DT. Took a long shower. ********d. Took another long shower. Pooped. Cooked food. Got food in my beard. Shaved. Took another long shower. Ate my food. Took a short nap. Invented Cold Fusion. Called up an old buddy of mine and shot the **. Made a post on the EVE-O Forums.

Mortesque McCay	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:41:00 - [1251] women being naked in the shower? isnt that illegal?
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:41:00 - [1252] Originally by: VladTeppes definitely not going to get any sort of an item as compensation for an extended downtime - the fact that it has been extended is to help optimize the game and correct any existing issues from the patch - this alone should suffice as a "gift". Unless you enjoy logging in and say, run a mission when suddenly you start experiencing lag-spikes or freezes which could result in losing a ship. Or, potentially logging in, moving items around only to find that some of them vanish. These are only a couple examples that would make opening up the server prematurely cause more distress than simply waiting for the extended downtime. Actually, the multiple extensions are for an edge case which probably won't even affect anyone on this thread.
Nomi Cakes	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:41:00 - [1253] ...it IS a very catchy song.... Ohhhhhhhh If you're happy and you know it pod Amarr, If you cannot find Caldari, pod Amarr; 'Cause the Mimi are too thrifty, And Gallente are too shifty, The Joves are just too risky, Pod Amarr! Greetings from Australia. Please be patient with CCP.
Wouter Maypole Broz With Froz Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:42:00 - [1254] In other news, swarms of pale people invaded the streets today.
Roxari	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:42:00 - [1255] Originally by: AxelFuller Originally by: DODGE CITY look if you go to grocery store you want what you pay for nothing more nothing less ccp is stealing my online game time that i paid real money for not fake isk or candy dreams i paid real cash money for something they cant deliver those of you who say get a life wtf you doing on here bi***ing get off and do real life things then and shut up hmmm what would you do if you went to that grocery store and had to quick for 30 minutes instead of 5 minutes when you go to the checkout, would you demand free milk LMAO, jokes on you my fried Pre Post Edit : "2 minute club" member here, where do i sign in germany there is a store called "kaufland" and if u have to wait more than 10 min for paying and not all pay stations r open, u get money back :P ((and if i write bad grammar sentences...u can take it with u, im not english ;) ))
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:42:00 - [1256] Originally by: Kush Bluestar I don't think I have ever witnessed such whining and whimpering....Grow up people!!! you do realise your whining at the people whining at ccp... whos worse? probly me
Lord o'Darkness	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:42:00 - [1257] Originally by: Jorgen Bekian Things I've done during this DT. Took a long shower. ********d. Took another long shower. Pooped. Cooked food. Got food in my beard. Shaved. Took another long shower. Ate my food. Took a short nap. Invented Cold Fusion. Called up an old buddy of mine and shot the *. Made a post on the EVE-O Forums. Inventing cold fusion AND posting on the EVE-O Forums, now that* is impressive!
EliteWarlord	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1258] MAN DOWN MAN DOWN JUST REALISED I'VE CONTRIBUTED TOO MANY QUOTES TO THIS THREAD IN THE PAST 1.5 HOURS ** MY BOSS IS GONNA BE **ED
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1259] Originally by: Wouter Maypole In other news, swarms of pale people invaded the streets today. +1. I haven't seen a truly intelligent comment thus far.
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1260] Step1 -rallying people to demand bonus free stuffz: FAILED -trolling the bloody snot out of the thread: LAUNCH PENDING

MBBD	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1261] Originally by: Wouter Maypole In other news, swarms of pale people invaded the streets today. LOL! OMG... look at them, they're pasty looking!
Lord OfThe Morning	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1262] Originally by: Cyberus 5 mil isk on that this topic will go over 100 pages I'll take that bet. 5 mill if this thread goes over 100 pages before TQ comes back online. I figure CopperNail's incessant and groundless demands for restitution will do more to show the whiners their childish ways than anything anyone else can write. @CopperNail - Keep making your demansd! I've got 5 mill ISK on the line. CopperNail for CSM7!!!
Jakk Grundigg	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1263] Originally by: Rellek Darbley Edited by: Rellek Darbley on 06/04/2011 16:40:56 Ok people are too busy b**ching about the extended down time. sniffle sniffle cry cry they are late and I have no other life other than playing this game,sniffle sniffle cry cry. sniffle sniffle cry cry, they are keeping me from playing my game,sniffle sniffle cry cry sniffle sniffle cry cry, I want something from them because they took to long to apply the patch that makes the game better for me,sniffle sniffle cry cry sniffle sniffle cry cry, since they took too long I want some ISK, or SP, or something else sniffle sniffle cry cry. if you people are really serious about leaving the game JUST DO IT ALREADY AND QUIT CRYING MORE THAN A 2 YEAR OLD. IF YOU REALLY HAD A SET YOU WOULD LEAVE THE GAME... That would teach them.... If they didnt take the time to make sure the new patch worked we would hear "sniffle sniffle cry cry they don't care and applied a defective patch sniffle sniffle cry cry" I can haz ur stuffz?
Sandman 1000	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1264] Dont know what everyone is crying about...glitches happen so what....personally i used the time to get some from the wife!! Woot to me for completing Seduction to lvl 5!!!
BlackFrog	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1265] Let the patching begin (a mere 773MB download...)!!!
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:43:00 - [1266] Originally by: Chai'mera Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. If you're really that unhappy.. drop your last comment in the bucket, say bye to people who really couldnt care less what you do with your own time, unsubscribe your account and go find another game. No one on here really gives two **s what you do, we all agreed to the EULA, and as such move on with our lives, quit crying. Most of us are adults, and you're atleast what, 6? Life isnt fair, figured you'd learn that a long time ago.. My 3 year old knows that lesson already. GTF over it, and move on.. less QQ and more PEW PEW when the game comes back online.. Aside from that, how's life for everyone else? LOL hi chai i said ** along the same lines, and the whiners didnt listen. But then I didnt have your particular flair to my posts.
Chopsie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:44:00 - [1267] Originally by: Sora De'Quasar I sware you guys, the song writing here is better then the originals. there should be a forum only for eve song writings :P this is far my fav: "if your happy and you know it pod amarr if you cannot find caldari pod amarr cause the mimi are to thrifty and gallente are to shifty the joves are just to risky pod amarr!" :) def gonna put it on my bio LOL Definitely see that one in a lot of bios already.
Locutus ofBorg Caldari Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus New Horizon Enterprise's	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:44:00 - [1268] Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows?
Liefde Uitbarsting	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:44:00 - [1269] Originally by: elegance refined WOOT WOOT !!!!!!! extended dt is good ,,,, just discovered my woman is buck naked when she takes a shower score one for the man team unfortunately for her, she had to shower alone this time, as you were not busy playing Eve.
Shiana Soltek BlazingAngels Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:44:00 - [1270] Originally by: elegance refined WOOT WOOT !!!!!!! extended dt is good ,,,, just discovered my woman is buck naked when she takes a shower score one for the man team What did you think they were when the was in the shower? You think women shower in bathing suits??? You shower in the buff dont you? :P, Now go get some nookie and hurry back before we stealz your goodz

Meatay Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:44:00 - [1271] seems you can DL the patch now guys ----------------------------------------------
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:44:00 - [1272] Originally by: MBBD Originally by: Wouter Maypole In other news, swarms of pale people invaded the streets today. LOL! OMG... look at them, they're pasty looking! Hot Pocket stock drops!
Tekka Caldari Sneaky Beaver	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:45:00 - [1273] Edited by: Tekka on 06/04/2011 16:45:44 Originally by: IreSilver Edited by: IreSilver on 06/04/2011 16:37:57 Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. Yeah, like you'll unsubscribe over this. We should all be so lucky to have people like you quit the game over a few hours of downtime. I wish. We'd be better off for it. And now, a random story. She could vaguely recall the way the wind felt, spreading it's wings down from the mountains and over the plains, so strong that to face it teared the eyes. At the thought she slumped down against the shattered concrete slab, the parking complex crumbling to dust and ruin around her. Still, there was a strange beauty to this new, harsh world. Something the one she had left behind lacked. Sharp edges, smoky skies, the sounds of artillery and gunfire rumbling and cracking in the distance like a thunderstorm. It appealed to her in a way that nothing else could. There was something entirely different about living life like this; each day a struggle against others to survive. She wasn't going to deny that it was, in the end, a very hard way to live, and certainly much shorter than working a nine to five shift at the supermarket. But still... it was more fulfilling. Knowing that the only reason she still breathed was because she earned the right to, against all odds. It was survival at it's basest, something easily taken for granted in an easier life. It made her proud. It made her strong. And she knew that she could never go back to the comforts and restrictions of normal life and still be sane. All she lived for now was to line up the sights of her rifle and fire it at an unquestioned enemy, to end their live to further hers. There were no moral doubts, no right or wrong, no endless legalities to consider and wade through. There was only what needed to be done, and if you failed then you died. It was simple, harsh, bleak... and she loved it. It was right then his broad shoulders and firm chest heaved his swinging manhood into her room, she looked up smiling briefly, knowing tonight was the night the intense pain would dull every nerve in her body. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:45:00 - [1274] Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows? Depends on where the first fool is going.
72inches	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:45:00 - [1275] Incursion 1.4 +Scars, tattooÆs and piercings available for your characters +Recustomization option available in stations +New contracts search system +A number of small fixes for the good of everyone yay its up but.. lol fixes that are for the good of everyone! installing now
elegance refined	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:45:00 - [1276] Originally by: Sandman 1000 Dont know what everyone is crying about...glitches happen so what....personally i used the time to get some from the wife!! Woot to me for completing Seduction to lvl 5!!! Leaving 5 dollars on the night stand does not constitute seduction !
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:45:00 - [1277] Originally by: Sandman 1000 Dont know what everyone is crying about...glitches happen so what....personally i used the time to get some from the wife!! Woot to me for completing Seduction to lvl 5!!! Alright...to all the "married" men out there that keep bragging about getting laid... If you truly just got laid and then compared it to an Eve skill, it is not funny, and you do not look cool.
Mortesque McCay	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:45:00 - [1278] Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows? the answer is "the fool who doesnt take advantage of the fact that there is a pack of fools lead by a fool is the most foolish of all"
RycheOn	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:45:00 - [1279] Originally by: Sandman 1000 Dont know what everyone is crying about...glitches happen so what....personally i used the time to get some from the wife!! Woot to me for completing Seduction to lvl 5!!! Yeah...but that skill only took 30 seconds....:-)
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:46:00 - [1280] Originally by: Sandman 1000 Dont know what everyone is crying about...glitches happen so what....personally i used the time to get some from the wife!! Woot to me for completing Seduction to lvl 5!!! Wasn't your last post like 6 minutes ago? lolz your fast :)

Rhaliana Jurnet	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:46:00 - [1281] parsival abon really IS a hottie trust me....hes crazy handsome
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:46:00 - [1282] Originally by: Wouter Maypole In other news, swarms of pale people invaded the streets today. LMAO yeh i wondered why there wer more poeple on COD4MW all of a sudden
Lord o'Darkness	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:46:00 - [1283] Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows? Well, I would think that the fool who leads is, he has to come up with the foolish plan, while the following fools can be mindless goons. No, the term 'goons' is not used accidentally.
Locutus ofBorg Caldari Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus New Horizon Enterprise's	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:46:00 - [1284] Originally by: Mortesque McCay Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows? the answer is "the fool who doesnt take advantage of the fact that there is a pack of fools lead by a fool is the most foolish of all" Well played good sir
Phigmeta	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1285] Why do you never see a minmatar miner? Everyone knows that the only way to get a minmatar to actually work is to use a whip! pfft!
Cable Udan Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1286] The lack of complaining in this thread is disturbing.
Glacier Gal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1287] um going on 1900..
Chancellor Vladd	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1288] yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1289] ccp is currently taking extended lunch laughing at all the bandwidth they have freed up during this screw up so they can surf weird **** and smoke dope in closet only to discover this patch is not compatible with the servers
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1290] Originally by: Jorgen Bekian Things I've done during this DT. Took a long shower. ********d. Took another long shower. Pooped. Cooked food. Got food in my beard. Shaved. Took another long shower. Ate my food. Took a short nap. Invented Cold Fusion. Called up an old buddy of mine and shot the **. Made a post on the EVE-O Forums. All that and you didn't invent the warp drive? Shame on you

smokeydapot	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1291] Originally by: Phigmeta Why do you never see a minmatar miner? Everyone knows that the only way to get a minmatar to actually work is to use a whip! pfft! I belive their ships fall apart befor they get to the belt
second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1292] Originally by: elegance refined WOOT WOOT !!!!!!! extended dt is good ,,,, just discovered my woman is buck naked when she takes a shower score one for the man team if you just discovered this, what are you doing sitting at a computer to post this..
Shiana Soltek BlazingAngels Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:47:00 - [1293] Originally by: Meatay seems you can DL the patch now guys Mate, you have been able to DL the patch for the past 3-4 hours where you been?? all you have to know is the current build number and edit the DL link with the new number :P
Halarach Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1294] Hi spergers
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1295] Downloading at 2.1 MB/sec. Happy hunting.
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1296] Originally by: Cable Udan The lack of complaining in this thread is disturbing. go back a few pages, oh lord is it rampant
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1297] Originally by: Wouter Maypole In other news, swarms of pale people invaded the streets today. LOL
Nomi Cakes	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1298] Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps I love 10 minute download times. It's the actual updating of the files that kills me.
Sandman 1000	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1299] Originally by: This Suxbad Originally by: MBBD Originally by: Wouter Maypole In other news, swarms of pale people invaded the streets today. LOL! OMG... look at them, they're pasty looking! Hot Pocket stock drops! Now thats rich!
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1300] Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like?

Mehashi 'Kho	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1301] Woo! Downloading update now. To all those suggesting that we go outside, why are you commenting here? Seems fairly ironic :p Thanks ccp, speed would be great but the quality is what really matters!
Silath Silverpine	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1302] Edited by: Silath Silverpine on 06/04/2011 16:48:41 Fecking auto character select...
VanSaan	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1303] Patch ia now downloading.
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1304] Originally by: 72inches Incursion 1.4 +Scars, tattooÆs and piercings available for your characters +Recustomization option available in stations +New contracts search system +A number of small fixes for the good of everyone yay its up but.. lol fixes that are for the good of everyone! installing now 'for the good of everyone' covertly means nerfing piracy and boosting carebearness.
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:48:00 - [1305] Originally by: Glacier Gal um going on 1900.. correction16:48
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:49:00 - [1306] Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows? Finaly someone who understands me xkiss
Chai'mera	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:49:00 - [1307] Originally by: smoking gun81 Originally by: Chai'mera Originally by: CopperNail Demanding retribution is not the same as whining. Its actualy a valid proposal to avoid unsubscribing.. If you're really that unhappy.. drop your last comment in the bucket, say bye to people who really couldnt care less what you do with your own time, unsubscribe your account and go find another game. No one on here really gives two ****s what you do, we all agreed to the EULA, and as such move on with our lives, quit crying. Most of us are adults, and you're atleast what, 6? Life isnt fair, figured you'd learn that a long time ago.. My 3 year old knows that lesson already. GTF over it, and move on.. less QQ and more PEW PEW when the game comes back online.. Aside from that, how's life for everyone else? hold on hes 6 quick ccp remove his account he is a minor and un able to understand the EULA........... No no, I I was saying that the person crying for retribution had to be "atleast 6" I, am 29, and was staying to the other individual that life isnt fair, an that my 3 year old already knows this.. but, there REALLY shouldnt need to be a justification for this comment
Hung TuLo Gallente Universal Fleet Operations Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:49:00 - [1308] CCP? Think maybe we can have a forum for those that are over 30 years old??? FOr those that are not going to cry about no extra SP or want to be compensated or those that are just really children?????
Chancellor Vladd	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:49:00 - [1309] Originally by: Nomi Cakes Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps I love 10 minute download times. It's the actual updating of the files that kills me. its going faster than normal though, im getting a whole 200kbs
LightMeUpJohnny	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:49:00 - [1310] Autodownload working... In other news, experts are baffled at the sudden and dramatic disappearance of the thousands of pale people who flooded the streets today. More on this topic tonight at 10:00.

Murk Loar O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:49:00 - [1311] Originally by: Chancellor Vladd Edited by: Chancellor Vladd on 06/04/2011 16:47:39 yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See you inside peeps 2hrs 28 minutes.God I hate you Bigpond.
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:49:00 - [1312] Good to get the Patch now. Thank you CCP.
Ravcharas GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:50:00 - [1313] I'm on a 100 mbit connection, so it's not as if I give a ****, really, but 775 mb?! What's in there?
Nano Plague	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:50:00 - [1314] With my incredible internet connection I will be ready to play sometime in late June of 2036.
Daenna Chrysi Amarr Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1315] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? o/
Miranda Riraille	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1316] Edited by: Miranda Riraille on 06/04/2011 16:51:37 althoigh i highly appreciate all the work that CCP is doing to fix and update EVE, I must say that they should try to be a bit more accurate when it comes to patch deployment times. If you say you are going to need 5 hours to patch the server then do it in 5 hours. I can understand that sometimes something can go wrong but since I have started playing EVE, 8 out of 10 times a patch is out we always see an extension on the already extended downtime. Anyway, I just hope that the client will be up and running soon. PS: Just saw that the patch is available for download... thank you
Silath Silverpine	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1317] Wow. 773 mb's. Quite large, idn't it?
second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1318] Originally by: smokeydapot Originally by: Phigmeta Why do you never see a minmatar miner? Everyone knows that the only way to get a minmatar to actually work is to use a whip! pfft! I belive their ships fall apart befor they get to the belt hows it go?? caldari pray for money, gallente pray for equality, amarr pray to have things back the way they were, minmitar pray their ship wont fall apart...
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1319] Originally by: Mehashi 'Kho Woo! Downloading update now. To all those suggesting that we go outside, why are you commenting here? Seems fairly ironic :p Thanks ccp, speed would be great but the quality is what really matters! I'd go outside if it wasnt almost 2am....
Cyan StormForge	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1320] I can't see ranting and raving, knowing that a patch is being installed and that certain problems have arisen that need fixed. At least CCP seems to care. Case and point: Tachyon The Fringe developed by Nova Logic (March 2000) An old game but by technical comparison, the great grand daddy of EVE Online. (It was bought at around $15 U.S.D. and there was never any monthly fees.) Nova Logic released it's first patch to fix some severe playability issues not long after release, and the patch failed. There was never an Official attempt to fix this patch as Nova Logic had no interest to do so. All later game patches were created and developed by the players who remained dedicated to the game. About 20 years later however, Nova Logic releases a 3 file patch a that makes it impossible to connect to the dedicated server, effectively pulling the plug on TTF. At one time, it was estimated that there were thousands of players from across the world playing TTF in it's peak. Now there about 8-12 players on a private server and there is a player sponsored project to merge the game with FreeSpace (the project is called FringeSpace), bringing renewed player interest and a much needed updating of technologies. Get over it already, it's not like your losing anything.

AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1321] still an hour away from there current estiamted up time thinks ill wait until closer to the tiem to save me downloading the ptach to fix the preapproved patch that everyone is currently downloading :)
Bondeknold	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1322] Originally by: Nomi Cakes Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps I love 10 minute download times. It's the actual updating of the files that kills me. Had to show off when i saw this :D 1 minut download time ! :D Pics or gtfo .. well here it is
Tecnicolor Yawn	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1323] 770 odd MB patch, for some bug fixes and general patches. This has turned to rubbish if it hadn't already.
combat zerg Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1324] Originally by: Ravcharas I'm on a 100 mbit connection, so it's not as if I give a ****, really, but 775 mb?! What's in there? new loots and other crap oh an "some minor fixes"......
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:51:00 - [1325] Originally by: Hung TuLo CCP? Think maybe we can have a forum for those that are over 30 years old??? FOr those that are not going to cry about no extra SP or want to be compensated or those that are just really children????? You mean those that are to dumb to ask for anything and prefer to take it up the * and say thank you **again? Yeah please go there..
Roxari	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:52:00 - [1326] 15 min for 773 MB....680 kb/sec...thats ok
Zen Christian Armond	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:52:00 - [1327] Originally by: DODGE CITY look if you go to grocery store you want what you pay for nothing more nothing less ccp is stealing my online game time that i paid real money for not fake isk or candy dreams i paid real cash money for something they cant deliver those of you who say get a life wtf you doing on here bi***ing get off and do real life things then and shut up Stocking shelves isn't quite as complicated as updating tens of thousands of lines of code, installing that code on multiple servers around the world, and making it all work so that you can have a great gaming experience. Don't be a crybaby.
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:52:00 - [1328] Took me 4 minutes to download that file. Guys, if your internet is that slow, switch to Comcast. Customer service is ****, but speeds are legit.
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:52:00 - [1329] Originally by: AxelFuller still an hour away from there current estiamted up time thinks ill wait until closer to the tiem to save me downloading the ptach to fix the preapproved patch that everyone is currently downloading :) lmao hope you're not right ;)
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:52:00 - [1330] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? 300 baud vicmodem ftw Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.

Randae Namero	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:53:00 - [1331] Amarr warps, arrives in divine glory, beaming lasers down to gracefully mine each roid. Caldari warps, arrives with corporate fanfare, mines the belt with sweat-shop efficiency. Gallente warps, arrives looking like big-shot heroes, mines the belt quickly and moves on when the resources are gone. Minmatar warps, arrives wondering when the rest of their ship will reach the belt.
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:53:00 - [1332] **To the tune of Ray Stevens "I'm My Own Grandpa" Many, many jumps ago, when I was PVP; Was hunting for a sucker, someone easy as can be; Came across a Gate blockade and my vision turned to red; All the ships there were Amarr and I lost my head. I opened up all my cannons and, made them beg for life; While my missiles tore through their ships like a hot butter knife; But to complicate the matter, though it brought me many joys; Another Faction made the scene and tore into Amarr toys.... Oh... I'm gonna get podded.... I'm gonna get podded.... It sounds funny, I know, but it really is so... Oh, I'm gonna get podded To the left was a rather large carrier, hailing from Gal space; Up ahead those filthy Amarr, to the Gate they race; To my right, another mother, spit shined Cal blue; Little did I ever think that thing was Navy spec'd issue; And here I am in my shield tanker, Mimitar cruiser; Flanked on either side by, rather large bruisers; I watched in utter amazement, moments before I was dead; Amarr vessels getting flattened, as they turned and fled... Oh.... I just got podded.... I just got podded... They just popped me, I know, But Amarr just got pwned... Oh, It was worth podded!
Nomi Cakes	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:53:00 - [1333] Originally by: Murk Loar Originally by: Chancellor Vladd Edited by: Chancellor Vladd on 06/04/2011 16:47:39 yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See you inside peeps 2hrs 28 minutes.God I hate you Bigpond. I send you good tidings from the land of iiNet.
Nano Plague	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:53:00 - [1334] Actually, I shouldn't complain about my internet connection - better then I thought. 27 min / 398 k/b sec.
Ballistix	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:53:00 - [1335] 740MB lol
Murk Loar O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:54:00 - [1336] Originally by: Daenna Chrysi Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? o/ Fsssssshhhttt...bzzzzzzztt..binnnngggg biiinnngggg blzzzt s**sssshhhhhhhhhhhhbzzzztttssshhhhhhhh.Click* Re-dialing in 15 seconds..
second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:54:00 - [1337] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? < <hand goes up>
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:54:00 - [1338] SWEET IM ONLINE SEE YALL SOON
Darteis Elosia Gallente PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G. DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:54:00 - [1339] ~300kb/s TOO SLOW. FIX IT. I want to cap my line. I need 3.3Mbps.
Bondeknold	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:54:00 - [1340] patch downloaded in 53 sec .. 10 Mb/s

Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:54:00 - [1341] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows? Finaly someone who understands me xkiss It isn't very nice to heap yourself in with the fools. They have it bad enough. Get back on the short bus where you belong. On the intellect scale Fools > Window lickers.
flint dragon	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:54:00 - [1342] Originally by: Delkana Fox Originally by: eyesofgod well this patch better be good and to ccp i want free stuff for wasting my time wft 3 hours I don't want free stuff, I want a game that works and doesn't crash 20 minutes after the patch goes live, (which has happened many times). If it takes an extra hour or 2 to make sure "Twitchy" the massive Tranquility hamster doesn't have a heart attack than so be it. lmfao i like this one
Shiana Soltek BlazingAngels Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:54:00 - [1343] Well this is epic. After the patch, my client no longer fits on an 8gig thumb drive. damn you CCP now i have to go out and get a friggin 16gig thumb drive so that my client is portable. Why all this increase in the damn install size??? why cant more of this data stay on the server and not on our local machine?
HarvestUr Tears	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:55:00 - [1344] Originally by: Daenna Chrysi http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retribution for those that keep demanding retribution for long DT... I dont think it is the word you are looking for. You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:55:00 - [1345] Originally by: second character Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? < <hand goes up> raises hand as well
Nilco Nukem	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:55:00 - [1346] Originally by: Solstice Project Just lol. These threads usually tend to give a nice overview of the intelligence of the human being. not. So ... most of you will agree that ... ... there are plenty of players who REALLY don't have a life. That includes ppl who go to work (and those who don't -> worse) That also includes ppl who whine about having to talk to their wifes. Excuse me ? That's the worst ... how low-life can one be to talk like this about his wife. You married her / live with her. Your fault. Seriously, you suck. She has feelings too. I bet she's not really happy about an idiot sitting in front of the computer all day because he just can't manage his life. I hope you guys don't have kids. ... there also are plenty of players who realise that there's way more. Some cleaning their bikes, the house, whatever. These seem to play EvE more in their free-time and use this time to do stuff they would have done sometime else (or maybe not) but they seem to realise that "I do it now so i can play later". "I have a life too and it's interesting enough to fill it with other stuff than a game" Smart. ... there are players who post just because it's awesomely funny to read what all the low/no-lifes post (read: *** and whine about). Fully understandable for me, as there's plenty of reason to be amused about ppl who do not have a life worth living. Altough, tbh ... it's pretty sad too. Personally, i find it interesting to see the demographics. I'm definitly against refunds, except the DT gets really worse. Not that i'd demand them, but they'd be a nice present anyway if things seriously get out of hands. People repeating to post "I WANT REFUNDS BLABLA" should consider leaving the computer and instead watch some TV, which seems perfectly fitting for these kind of people. TV can't harm your brain or character anymore anyway. I understand that there are several severely sick persons who can't partake in a life of their own ... or a life they would have wanted. I am totally excluding these from my words and am seriously apologizing if you felt offended ... but the rest, who COULD but just doesn't CARE ... ... please don't breed. You'd make the world a better place. oh and there's the guy who reads the patch-day-thread to post about the ppl who he believes are funny/idiots/just stealing his oxygen ... in the hope of at least ing ONE character off ... for his own and the amusement of those who have a life ... ... or to maybe enlighten somebody (haha, sure ... ). (i love patch-day-threads ^^) (besides, these are the best threads for long posts ^^) Hey buttface, self important pricks like urself is whats wrong with the world in the first place. Your part of the catagory of people who think of themselves better and more important then other people. Your a selfobsessed nobody who pats himself on the shoulder on the interwebz clanking down on people who spend there free time playing EVE. I dedicated about 40 hours of playing time to EVE in the 2 years I've been here but still wont tolerate fools like yourself. What ticks me off is people like you buddy, posting comments on a gaming forum about people not having lives and stuff. I know it makes you feel better because you can pretend that your not the misfit that you are. Taking the out of people for posting in a thread about when the servers will be up and talking about other peoples lives when you dont know about it is wrong. Why dont you take your sorry selfimportant socialyactive ass and go out meet your friends instead of sitting here taking the out of people. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ***.
Christian B	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:55:00 - [1347] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? /me rises his hand while starting the hours of DLing with his damned 256kbit line.
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:55:00 - [1348] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows? Finaly someone who understands me xkiss It isn't very nice to heap yourself in with the fools. They have it bad enough. Get back on the short bus where you belong. On the intellect scale Fools > Window lickers. f*ck of fool, this was between him and me, bloody pesky trolls here damn
Indy Mindy	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:56:00 - [1349] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? 9600 ftw .... at the time, it was the dogs danglies...
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:56:00 - [1350] Originally by: AxelFuller SWEET IM ONLINE SEE YALL SOON HOW MANY OF YOU ACTUALLY JUST WENT AND TRIED TO LOGIN AGAIN :)

second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:56:00 - [1351] finally
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:56:00 - [1352] Originally by: Hung TuLo CCP? Think maybe we can have a forum for those that are over 30 years old??? FOr those that are not going to cry about no extra SP or want to be compensated or those that are just really children????? they have one
Violent Tempest	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:56:00 - [1353] I'm getting a 2MB/s download here on the East Coast.
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:56:00 - [1354] Long DT but at least the download is quick, if you people only knew... Long DT for FFXI and 24 more hours trying to download the update. You don't know how easy you have it lol
Lord o'Darkness	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:56:00 - [1355] Originally by: Shiana Soltek Well this is epic. After the patch, my client no longer fits on an 8gig thumb drive. damn you CCP now i have to go out and get a friggin 16gig thumb drive so that my client is portable. Why all this increase in the damn install size??? why cant more of this data stay on the server and not on our local machine? I haven't updated my client yet, but if this is the case then thats going to be very annoying.
Miranda Riraille	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:56:00 - [1356] 6Mb per second... sorry guys :P
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:57:00 - [1357] evepremiumpatch237081-246350_m.exe could not be saved, because the source file could not be read. great
Morgan Knight	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:57:00 - [1358] For anyone whoÆs bored waiting for the servers to go back up and also has a sense of humour check out The Guild very funny especially if youÆre into MMORPGs. Plus Felicia Day is lovely. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grCTXGW3sxQ Sorry it's a bit OT, just thought you lot could do with something to do.
IxKILLxYOUxALL	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:57:00 - [1359] <--CCP games furious player AND AGAIN CCP CANT WORKING WHIT JUST IN TIME CCP please next writes simple: we will let you know when we're done not we are done 15:00 then 15:30 then 16:00 then 19:00 its every time the same whit you why ??? emoragemode off
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:57:00 - [1360] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Who's the more foolish? The fool who leads or the fool who follows? Finaly someone who understands me xkiss It isn't very nice to heap yourself in with the fools. They have it bad enough. Get back on the short bus where you belong. On the intellect scale Fools > Window lickers. f*ck of fool, this was between him and me, bloody pesky trolls here damn So you don't deny licking windows?

Devin Maximus	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:58:00 - [1361] Then WTF are you posting in a forum instead of joining her! Get your priorities straight man! Originally by: elegance refined WOOT WOOT !!!!!!! extended dt is good ,,,, just discovered my woman is buck naked when she takes a shower score one for the man team
second character	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:58:00 - [1362] finally
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:58:00 - [1363] Originally by: Miranda Riraille 6Mb per second... sorry guys :P im done installing. sorry :(
Alexander Yukari	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:58:00 - [1364] 14 mins , not bad . For people with slow connection, cheer up you will be finished before servers are up.
Wastelander Miccey	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:58:00 - [1365] You guys really ARE sick....LOL More Vitamin D to the forums...More extended DT¦s please... Make the Rutine DT 3 hrs... Make them go out in the sun playing with the other kids.....
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:59:00 - [1366] after this productive afternoon off forum quoting, i just remembered i got to work tonight so can't play anyway :)
Florence Valentine	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:59:00 - [1367] 775 friggin Megabytes!!!!!!!!!! Just for a few chnages to the UI, and the ability to put some earrings on! WTF.
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Ghost Festival Naraka.	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:59:00 - [1368] Only 348 kB/sec for me here (Sky internet in the Midlands of the UK is BAD)... BUT! It's constant!* Thankyou CCP for your wonderful fileservers!*
Daenna Chrysi Amarr Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:59:00 - [1369] Originally by: Saithe Originally by: Miranda Riraille 6Mb per second... sorry guys :P im done installing. sorry :( I had the patch installed while ago...
Lev Aeris b.b.k Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:00:00 - [1370] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? not only do I remember the sound, I remember being able to tell what connection speed I was getting just by the handshake.

Lennon Church	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:00:00 - [1371] YEZZ Imma danlodin' Mah Patch!!!
Delkana Fox	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:00:00 - [1372] "Processing: Hangers.stuff"<== I'm scared.
Jes7er Bonus	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:00:00 - [1373] Originally by: Shiana Soltek Well this is epic. After the patch, my client no longer fits on an 8gig thumb drive. damn you CCP now i have to go out and get a friggin 16gig thumb drive so that my client is portable. Why all this increase in the damn install size??? why cant more of this data stay on the server and not on our local machine? That's why I roll with a 32 GB
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:00:00 - [1374] im a paying customer ill bi**h where and when ever i want when ccp steals my money for another day of play time so bite me
smokeydapot	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:00:00 - [1375] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Hung TuLo CCP? Think maybe we can have a forum for those that are over 30 years old??? FOr those that are not going to cry about no extra SP or want to be compensated or those that are just really children????? You mean those that are to dumb to ask for anything and prefer to take it up the * and say thank you **again? Yeah please go there.. I belive the person your trying to quote copper is refering to the need you have for profanity and your childish attitude to things " give me things i want more things ". People over 30 accept there are things that go wrong that cant be fixed with the wave of a wand you know the state of mind you are still to get too.
Hung TuLo Gallente Universal Fleet Operations Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:01:00 - [1376] And even the children are not happy, It's society. HAHAHAHAhahAHAHAHA Grow up Boys and Girls
Miranda Riraille	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:01:00 - [1377] Originally by: Daenna Chrysi Originally by: Saithe Originally by: Miranda Riraille 6Mb per second... sorry guys :P im done installing. sorry :( I had the patch installed while ago... lol... nice 1 guys :P
Athena reekoo	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:01:00 - [1378] Originally by: smokeydapot Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Hung TuLo CCP? Think maybe we can have a forum for those that are over 30 years old??? FOr those that are not going to cry about no extra SP or want to be compensated or those that are just really children????? You mean those that are to dumb to ask for anything and prefer to take it up the * and say thank you **again? Yeah please go there.. I belive the person your trying to quote copper is refering to the need you have for profanity and your childish attitude to things " give me things i want more things ". People over 30 accept there are things that go wrong that cant be fixed with the wave of a wand you know the state of mind you are still to get too. yeh, its called brainwashing
Cory Sopapilla Minmatar Kiroshi Group	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:01:00 - [1379] It'd be awesome if the new forums have a 'report flame' option that adds an hour to their next days downtime when confirmed by an admin. Looking forward to the new features CCP. Thanks for all the work towards lag improvement as well.
Darteis Elosia Gallente PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G. DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:01:00 - [1380] I hope they implement torrent technology in the next downloader... Anyways, since this is taking forever, i'm off to get some phatt hambugers.

Von Sectizer	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:01:00 - [1381] They didn't want me to fire my lazer!
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:02:00 - [1382] CCp are you sure its correct patch? 773 MB? ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
Shiana Soltek BlazingAngels Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:02:00 - [1383] Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: second character Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: Chancellor Vladd yay its online! Now just a 40 min wait for my slow internet to download the 773Mb patch! See in inside peeps How young have you gotta be to think that is slow? Show of hands: who here remembers what a dial up modem sounds like? < <hand goes up> raises hand as well I will admit, i remember it as well o/ 31 here. I am the average age within my alliance lol
AxelFuller	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:02:00 - [1384] Key turning points for patch day forum threads First 3 pages = realistic comments Next 5 pages = whiners askign for update from CCP Next 30 pages = whiners whining uncontrollably Next 20 pages = people comparing download speeds Final 20 page = people moanign i still cant get online but i have the patch Final Page = hmmm if your still reading you didnt realise EVE was finally back up and running
HarvestUr Tears	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:03:00 - [1385] Originally by: Wouter Maypole In other news, swarms of pale people invaded the streets today. If not for the stench of unshowered basement dwellers, one might think it was a Twilight convention.
smokeydapot	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:03:00 - [1386] Originally by: Athena reekoo Originally by: smokeydapot Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Hung TuLo CCP? Think maybe we can have a forum for those that are over 30 years old??? FOr those that are not going to cry about no extra SP or want to be compensated or those that are just really children????? You mean those that are to dumb to ask for anything and prefer to take it up the * and say thank you **again? Yeah please go there.. I belive the person your trying to quote copper is refering to the need you have for profanity and your childish attitude to things " give me things i want more things ". People over 30 accept there are things that go wrong that cant be fixed with the wave of a wand you know the state of mind you are still to get too. yeh, its called brainwashing Its called reality you may be using eve too much advice is get from behind your keyboard and actuly see some of the world.
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:04:00 - [1387] Says Tranquility is not accepting connections.
TCSHalycon	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:04:00 - [1388] Берегитесь геймеры, мы уже инсталлим патчи)))))
Urmzz	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:04:00 - [1389] Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 18:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:04:00 - [1390] Originally by: Nilco Nukem Originally by: Solstice Project Just lol. These threads usually tend to give a nice overview of the intelligence of the human being. not. So ... most of you will agree that ... ... there are plenty of players who REALLY don't have a life. That includes ppl who go to work (and those who don't -> worse) That also includes ppl who whine about having to talk to their wifes. Excuse me ? That's the worst ... how low-life can one be to talk like this about his wife. You married her / live with her. Your fault. Seriously, you suck. She has feelings too. I bet she's not really happy about an idiot sitting in front of the computer all day because he just can't manage his life. I hope you guys don't have kids. ... there also are plenty of players who realise that there's way more. Some cleaning their bikes, the house, whatever. These seem to play EvE more in their free-time and use this time to do stuff they would have done sometime else (or maybe not) but they seem to realise that "I do it now so i can play later". "I have a life too and it's interesting enough to fill it with other stuff than a game" Smart. ... there are players who post just because it's awesomely funny to read what all the low/no-lifes post (read: *** and whine about). Fully understandable for me, as there's plenty of reason to be amused about ppl who do not have a life worth living. Altough, tbh ... it's pretty sad too. Personally, i find it interesting to see the demographics. I'm definitly against refunds, except the DT gets really worse. Not that i'd demand them, but they'd be a nice present anyway if things seriously get out of hands. People repeating to post "I WANT REFUNDS BLABLA" should consider leaving the computer and instead watch some TV, which seems perfectly fitting for these kind of people. TV can't harm your brain or character anymore anyway. I understand that there are several severely sick persons who can't partake in a life of their own ... or a life they would have wanted. I am totally excluding these from my words and am seriously apologizing if you felt offended ... but the rest, who COULD but just doesn't CARE ... ... please don't breed. You'd make the world a better place. oh and there's the guy who reads the patch-day-thread to post about the ppl who he believes are funny/idiots/just stealing his oxygen ... in the hope of at least ing ONE character off ... for his own and the amusement of those who have a life ... ... or to maybe enlighten somebody (haha, sure ... ). (i love patch-day-threads ^^) (besides, these are the best threads for long posts ^^) Hey buttface, self important pricks like urself is whats wrong with the world in the first place. Your part of the catagory of people who think of themselves better and more important then other people. Your a selfobsessed nobody who pats himself on the shoulder on the interwebz clanking down on people who spend there free time playing EVE. I dedicated about 40 hours of playing time to EVE in the 2 years I've been here but still wont tolerate fools like yourself. What ticks me off is people like you buddy, posting comments on a gaming forum about people not having lives and stuff. I know it makes you feel better because you can pretend that your not the misfit that you are. Taking the out of people for posting in a thread about when the servers will be up and talking about other peoples lives when you dont know about it is wrong. Why dont you take your sorry selfimportant socialyactive ass and go out meet your friends instead of sitting here taking the out of people. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ***. You're wrong. I'm not "better" in any way. As you believe this, it seems you have some issues with your personality. Thanks for showing me how right i am, genius. ^^

Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:04:00 - [1391] Originally by: AxelFuller Key turning points for patch day forum threads First 3 pages = realistic comments Next 5 pages = whiners askign for update from CCP Next 30 pages = whiners whining uncontrollably Next 20 pages = people comparing download speeds Final 20 page = people moanign i still cant get online but i have the patch Final Page = hmmm if your still reading you didnt realise EVE was finally back up and running Last few pages = The people that let everyone know its a scam. Letting everyone know that everyone is whining.
Dhoom Hope	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:05:00 - [1392] Autopatch ready, took me 10 minutes to download
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:06:00 - [1393] Still not letting me log on. "Cluster is not accepting connections" Is everyone else on?
markie1994	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:07:00 - [1394] lol i downloaded the test server patch and put it into my main eve folder should work and took me 12 mins to download... lol aint tht bad and im on 10 meg internet
CO Bradley The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:07:00 - [1395] Edited by: CO Bradley on 06/04/2011 17:08:00 Originally by: Florence Valentine 775 friggin Megabytes!!!!!!!!!! Just for a few chnages to the UI, and the ability to put some earrings on! WTF. For the grid warp issues, more accurate killmail statistics and no longer tracking missle information on each client I would download a few gig patch. There is more in this patch than a couple of trivial items.
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:07:00 - [1396] 10 minutes my god..... i did it 1n about 1 minutes 80mb/s Originally by: Dhoom Hope Autopatch ready, took me 10 minutes to download
Reestoh San	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:08:00 - [1397] Originally by: Sicarius Echerie Still not letting me log on. "Cluster is not accepting connections" Is everyone else on? yes everyone else is on and we are going through your stuff as we speak. We will not let you in until we have taken everything. Please hold.
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:08:00 - [1398] Originally by: Sicarius Echerie Still not letting me log on. "Cluster is not accepting connections" Is everyone else on? only 1700 GMT ish, still about an hour left. Patience, it'll come online when it comes online.
Darod Zyree Gallente Zyree Holding	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:09:00 - [1399] CCP throttling the download speeds? Downloading @ 1.2 megabyte/second instead of the usual 10-11 :P -Darod-
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:10:00 - [1400] Originally by: Tekka It was right then his broad shoulders and firm chest heaved his swinging manhood into her room, she looked up smiling briefly, knowing tonight was the night the intense pain would dull every nerve in her body. Queue funky 70's music. Yay patchy goodness. Now is when you realize the extended DT was only to distract people from their whining about the nullsec changes.

FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:10:00 - [1401] Nope there not. i dragged it in with 80 ms/s Originally by: Darod Zyree CCP throttling the download speeds? Downloading @ 1.2 megabyte/second instead of the usual 10-11 :P
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:11:00 - [1402] Originally by: IreSilver Originally by: Tekka It was right then his broad shoulders and firm chest heaved his swinging manhood into her room, she looked up smiling briefly, knowing tonight was the night the intense pain would dull every nerve in her body. Queue funky 70's music. Yay patchy goodness. Now is when you realize the extended DT was only to distract people from their whining about the nullsec changes. QFT and I lol'd
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:11:00 - [1403] Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: Sicarius Echerie Still not letting me log on. "Cluster is not accepting connections" Is everyone else on? only 1700 GMT ish, still about an hour left. Patience, it'll come online when it comes online. No big deal, I was under the impression people were on and perhaps my client messed up. Thanks.
Zen Sins	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:13:00 - [1404] Originally by: Darod Zyree CCP throttling the download speeds? Downloading @ 1.2 megabyte/second instead of the usual 10-11 :P Yes, because CCP is the MAN and the MAN is out to get you in inexplicable, evil ways. Quick, run put on your tinfoil hat!!!
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:13:00 - [1405] Originally by: Sicarius Echerie Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: Sicarius Echerie Still not letting me log on. "Cluster is not accepting connections" Is everyone else on? only 1700 GMT ish, still about an hour left. Patience, it'll come online when it comes online. No big deal, I was under the impression people were on and perhaps my client messed up. Thanks. np, i'm used to long dt's. I just check for updates then assume it wont be back up till CCP says it will be up.
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:14:00 - [1406] Edited by: gintaru on 06/04/2011 17:14:16 lol ppl, just check this... http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/server_status.php Its quicker to update than the server status on the Client.... that way youll stop whining and this thread wont grow by 20 pages an hour
Sag'vuapel	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:14:00 - [1407] I didn't notice that... "Tranquility will be taken offline at 09:00 UTC and is expected to return to service at 15:00 UTC" It's already 19:00 CET and we are not allowed to log in yet. A big waste of time, really I'm paying for that!
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:15:00 - [1408] Third epic fail in a single day. Lolz.
Gum Boil	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:15:00 - [1409] Quote: Originally by: Sicarius EcherieStill not letting me log on. "Cluster is not accepting connections" Is everyone else on? yes everyone else is on and we are going through your stuff as we speak. We will not let you in until we have taken everything. Please hold. Lauhed so hard at this I think I pee'd a little Good news is there's still time for a shower before server comes up!
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:16:00 - [1410] Originally by: Gum Boil Quote: Originally by: Sicarius EcherieStill not letting me log on. "Cluster is not accepting connections" Is everyone else on? yes everyone else is on and we are going through your stuff as we speak. We will not let you in until we have taken everything. Please hold. Lauhed so hard at this I think I pee'd a little Good news is there's still time for a shower before server comes up! Great! that way i can catch up for the last week!

Wouter Maypole Broz With Froz Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:16:00 - [1411] Originally by: Sag'vuapel I didn't notice that... "Tranquility will be taken offline at 09:00 UTC and is expected to return to service at 15:00 UTC" It's already 19:00 CET and we are not allowed to log in yet. A big waste of time, really I'm paying for that! Troll!
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:17:00 - [1412] its downloaded and unpacking as we speek before time
Parkerftw Biteyoazz	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:17:00 - [1413] this is taking the mickey now
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:18:00 - [1414] Originally by: Sag'vuapel I didn't notice that... "Tranquility will be taken offline at 09:00 UTC and is expected to return to service at 15:00 UTC" It's already 19:00 CET and we are not allowed to log in yet. A big waste of time, really I'm paying for that! 1: CET and UTC are different time zones 2: there has been Downtime Extensions, server "supposed" to go back up at 1800 UTC now due to some minor errors. pays to read more of the thread then blundering blindly into it
Sephiroh	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:19:00 - [1415] Singularity (Test server) is online now and working just not the right one!!!
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:19:00 - [1416] Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: Sag'vuapel I didn't notice that... "Tranquility will be taken offline at 09:00 UTC and is expected to return to service at 15:00 UTC" It's already 19:00 CET and we are not allowed to log in yet. A big waste of time, really I'm paying for that! 1: CET and UTC are different time zones 2: there has been Downtime Extensions, server "supposed" to go back up at 1800 UTC now due to some minor errors. pays to read more of the thread then blundering blindly into it +1
Hung TuLo Gallente Universal Fleet Operations Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:19:00 - [1417] Ok folks, Think about this before you want to whine or complain: Reasons to complain 1. Dog has just bitten you child and needs to have stiches. 2. Due to hospital mix up you bill has just gone up by $2000 3. Dog ate Cat, Vet says "Sorry cant help you" 4. House hit by tornado, Warning sirens that were suppose to be working didn't make a sound. Almost dies. 5. You get shot at. Opps a friendly mistake. 6. Your family dies due to food poisining (sp) 7. Food yuo bought fron the store has been recalled 2 days ago and you didn't know. 8. A relative, has decided to sue you 9. Aparently President of the united states doesnt understand what a budget is. 10. The president just doesnt care. Reasons why it doesnt make sense to complain. 1. Oh Badd CCP, I cant play all hours of the day. 2. They are going to pay, CCP owes me something of value, Oh "Snap" (btw,if your using tha term, please grow up) I want a titan for a re-emburement. 3. O ya, I do have a life, really? 4. Ever try to kiss your CPU? Not as good as a girl. 5. I just graduated from Diapers 6. CCP promised my that they would be up at this time. The only thing CCP promises is that you get to play this game for a measly $15. 7. I deserve a gift, What? the only thing you deserve to do is live, die and pay taxes. 8. I am not getting my moneys worth. Really? Can you give me your isk when you leave? 9. Its not fair. Need I say more? 10. Pouting, crying shaking fist. WWWWAAAAAAAAAA
cowboyxxx	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:19:00 - [1418] 0.0 people are worse than carebears in highsec. You hide behind a huge alliance instead of the systems security - so how are you any different than a carebear alliance hiding behind a 1.0 sec system? I mean, I can't attack them because it's high sec, I also can't attack you because you have 300 people on standby to jump me or my 15 man fleet - get real you crybabys. These huge groups like NC have pretty much taken every ounce of 0.0 isk from everyone else in the game, and use 300 man blobs to deter anyone else from even trying to get in on the isk. I'm happy they are doing this in 0.0 Originally by: Arron Wade to be fair, I do like some of these Server-side ship fittings, the mass repackaging, that bookmark thing (don't know what they called it), being able to strip a ship without getting in it and the default squad commander thing. Also nice was the fixing the guristas jamming business... but they are effectively removing anoms from most of 0.0, so that doesn't matter much. CCP had to have known that most residents of 0.0 would be upset as hell about the anom changes, and the fact that they decided to do it anyway- and then ignore the threads about it tells a lot about how much they really care about us out here. But hey! loot logging is enabled by default now so that more than makes up for it... right guys? (Oh wait, it was already that way once everyone hit the little check box they so thoughtfully provided)
Replacement 234	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:20:00 - [1419] 32% done 1358 K/b per sec
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:20:00 - [1420] does gammers really have a hygene problem where they really only shower during down time ...well thank god we get 30 minutes daily for you to take a bath and poop please dont use that time to take a nap or eat wash that nasty off your butt

DarthNefarius	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:20:00 - [1421] WTF is happening? I got so PO'd I just uninstalled EVE.Is eve down for 7 hours plus? I can't reinstall EVE either. CCP is about to lose some subscriptions
Krackpot	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:21:00 - [1422] Thank you for calling CCP. To make a payment please press 1. To send us money please press 2. To donate to our beer fund please press 3. To buy us lunch please press 4. To pay for our vacations please press 5. To line our pockets with your hard earned money please press 6. To donate your first born child please press 7. To reach our refund department please press Ctrl Q. To reach our pale white skinned IT department please hang up and try your call again.
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:21:00 - [1423] Originally by: Major Slaphead Originally by: AxelFuller Key turning points for patch day forum threads First 3 pages = realistic comments Next 5 pages = whiners askign for update from CCP Next 30 pages = whiners whining uncontrollably Next 20 pages = people comparing download speeds Final 20 page = people moanign i still cant get online but i have the patch Final Page = hmmm if your still reading you didnt realise EVE was finally back up and running Last few pages = The people that let everyone know its a scam. Letting everyone know that everyone is whining. Now thats something worth reading ppl! Cleaning Downloaded Data
Nellz	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:21:00 - [1424] It appears the patch is downloadable but servers aren't open yet, probably still testing server stability etc.
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:21:00 - [1425] did anyone else got patch fail and repair tool kick in? ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
Florence Valentine	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:21:00 - [1426] I noticed that there are just 8 players online - no one else can connect. Obviously a few GMs are running round naked before everyone else logs on.
Victor Sigmund Balducci	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:22:00 - [1427] Edited by: Victor Sigmund Balducci on 06/04/2011 17:25:37 To everyone complaining about people complaining: You suck too, do you really fail to realize how much fun it is to be complaining about stuff? I've spent maybe a good two hours reading this thread laughing about peoples comments and smiling to myself, this is just part of the eve patching process. I quite enjoy it, you guys should too.
Amarr Maniac	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:22:00 - [1428] In Finland we players loose best game-time for this. But Thats not the problem. Problem is that we measure time in beers, that we way before stack for occasion, when we wait for new patch (2/hour)... Like I have already drinked now drinked soon (+those during DT) 6 beers after i was supposed to get to play... CCP owns me 6-pack!
Zangorus	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:22:00 - [1429] I wanna play..
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:23:00 - [1430] Originally by: Victor Sigmund Balducci To everyone complaining about people complaining: You suck too, do you really fail to realize how much fun it is to be complaining about stuff? I've spent maybe a good two hours reading this thread laughing about peoples comments and smiling to myself, this is just part of the eve patching process. I I quite enjoy it, you guys should too. Double `I` there...

Dhoom Hope	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:23:00 - [1431] Thought some of you folks might be interested in watching something of your choice on this website for the last 45 minutes... Enjoy! topdocumentaryfilms.com
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:23:00 - [1432] Originally by: DarthNefarius WTF is happening? I got so PO'd I just uninstalled EVE.Is eve down for 7 hours plus? I can't reinstall EVE either. CCP is about to lose some subscriptions Read more of the thread dude, pays to pay attention. Seriously, do they even bother teaching kids in school anymore?
Chung Weng	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:23:00 - [1433] Only just realised i can download the patch ahead of time, Then realised my ****ty internet is only gettink 105kb/s max and its gonna take 2 hours from now before I have the patch :S
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:23:00 - [1434] LOL You are fail ascension.... ok what the hell +1 for this one. 1 thing you do good :P Yaaarrrr Originally by: Hung TuLo Ok folks, Think about this before you want to whine or complain: Reasons to complain 1. Dog has just bitten you child and needs to have stiches. 2. Due to hospital mix up you bill has just gone up by $2000 3. Dog ate Cat, Vet says "Sorry cant help you" 4. House hit by tornado, Warning sirens that were suppose to be working didn't make a sound. Almost dies. 5. You get shot at. Opps a friendly mistake. 6. Your family dies due to food poisining (sp) 7. Food yuo bought fron the store has been recalled 2 days ago and you didn't know. 8. A relative, has decided to sue you 9. Aparently President of the united states doesnt understand what a budget is. 10. The president just doesnt care. Reasons why it doesnt make sense to complain. 1. Oh Badd CCP, I cant play all hours of the day. 2. They are going to pay, CCP owes me something of value, Oh "Snap" (btw,if your using tha term, please grow up) I want a titan for a re-emburement. 3. O ya, I do have a life, really? 4. Ever try to kiss your CPU? Not as good as a girl. 5. I just graduated from Diapers 6. CCP promised my that they would be up at this time. The only thing CCP promises is that you get to play this game for a measly $15. 7. I deserve a gift, What? the only thing you deserve to do is live, die and pay taxes. 8. I am not getting my moneys worth. Really? Can you give me your isk when you leave? 9. Its not fair. Need I say more? 10. Pouting, crying shaking fist. WWWWAAAAAAAAAA
Jiltan	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:23:00 - [1435] Originally by: cowboyxxx 0.0 people are worse than carebears in highsec. You hide behind a huge alliance instead of the systems security - so how are you any different than a carebear alliance hiding behind a 1.0 sec system? I mean, I can't attack them because it's high sec, I also can't attack you because you have 300 people on standby to jump me or my 15 man fleet - get real you crybabys. These huge groups like NC have pretty much taken every ounce of 0.0 isk from everyone else in the game, and use 300 man blobs to deter anyone else from even trying to get in on the isk. I'm happy they are doing this in 0.0 Way more than 300 bud.
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:24:00 - [1436] These players are probably the quality team making sure the game is plain and simple. Also these 700mb. I think we just got a chunk of server software to our client side because of this re-customization thingie with pictures in every single station... -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Shiana Soltek BlazingAngels Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:24:00 - [1437] What the hell. I get the patch downloaded and installed, only to find out that while i was downloading the patch, they issued another patch out, and there is no patch you can apply to go from 245651 to 246350. seriously wtf is up with that???? now i have to go find some place that has free broadband so i can get the full client install. EPIC ****ING FAIL
Saithe Caldari FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:25:00 - [1438] Originally by: Krackpot Thank you for calling CCP. To donate your first born child please press 7. This actually transfers you to Bethesda Support
Reestoh San	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:25:00 - [1439] Originally by: Florence Valentine I noticed that there are just 8 players online - no one else can connect. Obviously a few GMs are running round naked before everyone else logs on. Pictures, or it didn't happen
Seifer Nubolien	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:25:00 - [1440] Originally by: Hung TuLo Ok folks, Think about this before you want to whine or complain: Reasons to complain 5. You get shot at. Opps a friendly mistake. You're american arent you? :P

Knokploeg	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:25:00 - [1441] They nerfed sanctums so hard that the server is still down from the shock. Totally worth it TBH.
Potrondal Morrison	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:26:00 - [1442] Edited by: Potrondal Morrison on 06/04/2011 17:25:55 does not make a differance atm, i downloaded the patch and when i try to log on i get the messgae that "this cluster is not accepting connections" and there are only 6 ppl on Tranquility
Dirk Decibel	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:26:00 - [1443] PETSJ INSTAWLLED, WEYTANG FOR SURFERZ TO ****OWNLAINE, GOGOGO!1!1!!11!
Tukomi	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:26:00 - [1444] Liez, $15 Us Euros has to pay E15 T'is like 1.6 of teh dollar
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:26:00 - [1445] freaking failure. First download patch 773 mb. afther that its fails and now repair tool download damn 1,02 gig. This is suck big time ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
Delkana Fox	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:27:00 - [1446] Originally by: DarthNefarius WTF is happening? I got so PO'd I just uninstalled EVE.Is eve down for 7 hours plus? I can't reinstall EVE either. CCP is about to lose some subscriptions I Agree! Boldly storm out! I'll be right behind you with everyone else! (pointing and laughing)
Hung TuLo Gallente Universal Fleet Operations Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:27:00 - [1447] Originally by: Seifer Nubolien Originally by: Hung TuLo Ok folks, Think about this before you want to whine or complain: Reasons to complain 5. You get shot at. Opps a friendly mistake. :) How did you guess. :) You're american arent you? :P
Shiana Soltek BlazingAngels Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:27:00 - [1448] Originally by: Shiana Soltek What the hell. I get the patch downloaded and installed, only to find out that while i was downloading the patch, they issued another patch out, and there is no patch you can apply to go from 245651 to 246350. seriously wtf is up with that???? now i have to go find some place that has free broadband so i can get the full client install. EPIC ****ING FAIL Ok so maybe it wont be that bad. Just discovered i still had the full installer for 222391 and i am downloading the patch to go from that to 246350. Still wish there was just a patch that could take it from 245651 to 246350
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:27:00 - [1449] ohh is someone feeling stinky ..use this ccp regulated down time to go take a shower you stink
Victor Sigmund Balducci	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:27:00 - [1450] Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Victor Sigmund Balducci To everyone complaining about people complaining: You suck too, do you really fail to realize how much fun it is to be complaining about stuff? I've spent maybe a good two hours reading this thread laughing about peoples comments and smiling to myself, this is just part of the eve patching process. I I quite enjoy it, you guys should too. Double `I` there... Was probably something like that in their code that caused the extra-extra downtime!

FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:27:00 - [1451] WTF you stole my name??? :P Originally by: Cyberus freaking failure. First download patch 773 mb. afther that its fails and now repair tool download damn 1,02 gig. This is suck big time
Labuzik	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:28:00 - [1452] I want to give you a few minutes of relaxation, fun.
Tukomi	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:28:00 - [1453] Americans pay $15 which averages at around 10E Euros has to pay 15E 5E more for being euro .... Oh teh pain
Tenaj Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:28:00 - [1454] Originally by: DarthNefarius WTF is happening? I got so PO'd I just uninstalled EVE.Is eve down for 7 hours plus? I can't reinstall EVE either. CCP is about to lose some subscriptions Why did you uninstall?....If you WAIT, like a grown up and not like a petulant child, the patch will be sorted and you can install it and play. Go watch some TV, wait for the masses to finish killing the download servers, check the forums so you become aware of any issues that the hasty mob have tripped over, walk the dog, finish your coffee, be thankful that you have little else other than a computer game patch to worry about right now, (unlike millions of other people) then download, patch and play. Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the criminal community since 2003
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:28:00 - [1455] Originally by: Shiana Soltek What the hell. I get the patch downloaded and installed, only to find out that while i was downloading the patch, they issued another patch out, and there is no patch you can apply to go from 245651 to 246350. seriously wtf is up with that???? now i have to go find some place that has free broadband so i can get the full client install. EPIC ****ING FAIL Lesson for you not to download working patches before they are announced by client as the waiting for players download. Now you will have to reinstall entire EVE from scratch. Keep old customizations for less work later on. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Calistra Vacanos Gallente Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:29:00 - [1456] Hurry up...need to get into a hub first to make 5mil!!!!!
Darteis Elosia Gallente PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G. DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:30:00 - [1457] So... Has anyone read Encyclopedia Dramatica's article on eve online? It's hilarious and totally NSFW!
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:30:00 - [1458] Originally by: cowboyxxx 0.0 people are worse than carebears in highsec. You hide behind a huge alliance instead of the systems security - so how are you any different than a carebear alliance hiding behind a 1.0 sec system? I mean, I can't attack them because it's high sec, I also can't attack you because you have 300 people on standby to jump me or my 15 man fleet - get real you crybabys. These huge groups like NC have pretty much taken every ounce of 0.0 isk from everyone else in the game, and use 300 man blobs to deter anyone else from even trying to get in on the isk. That's funny. There are regular roams through NC space all that time. Some are solo / pairs, and others are small 5-10 man gangs that are quite successful in getting in, messing up a bunch of ratters / miners, and getting out with minimal losses. Happens on a daily basis, actually. Is the reason you're just unable to do this perhaps that you suck at Eve and would rather whine about it?
Mistress Nadine	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:30:00 - [1459] wtf? i just opened EVE and the patch is 4 gigs... at 167 mb/s it will take 7 more hours to download..... fml (yes. FML... because i have to wait 7 more hours before i can successfully waste my life)
Reestoh San	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:31:00 - [1460] It's ok. I logged off in a Sanctum in a -0.01 system. Can't wait to log on and finish those battleships! YARRRRRRRR

gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:33:00 - [1461] How many times have you ppl actually refreshed this page??
0'o'0	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:33:00 - [1462] Originally by: Shiana Soltek What the hell. I get the patch downloaded and installed, only to find out that while i was downloading the patch, they issued another patch out, and there is no patch you can apply to go from 245651 to 246350. seriously wtf is up with that???? now i have to go find some place that has free broadband so i can get the full client install. EPIC ****ING FAIL That's cos you downloaded it when you weren't supposed to little girl. Now go stand facing the corner with your dunce cap on.
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:33:00 - [1463] patch notes; An issue with removing the female bra within character creation has been fixed, unfortunately. Ow is there a male bra??
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:33:00 - [1464] Edited by: Transius Porta on 06/04/2011 17:35:00 Patch downloaded in 7 min juust waiting for servers to online ^_^.. I find it funny all the people sittign and complaining, ccp is working on it believe it or not, while you're sitting on you bum doing absolutely nothing constructive :P.. And for the people complaining over dollars and euros wasted on not being able to play i must lol :P CCP has even allowed us to play for free, personally able to earn a plex in 4 days of casual missioning and i suck at earning isk / suck at doing the same thing over a prolonged period ;P... moh yeah, people who broke their game.. L2Patience ;D, what is the point of spamming for the patch several hours before downtime ends? it'll just end up in breaking stuff as you can see Eagerly awaiting Status: Ok ^_^
Florence Valentine	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:33:00 - [1465] Originally by: Reestoh San Originally by: Florence Valentine I noticed that there are just 8 players online - no one else can connect. Obviously a few GMs are running round naked before everyone else logs on. Pictures, or it didn't happen I see there is 11 of them now. This is a lot of nakedness. I'm sure I didn't see "nudist beach" in the patch notes?
Mistress Nadine	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:34:00 - [1466] Originally by: gintaru How many times have you ppl actually refreshed this page?? too many times.... and i did it again to read your comment
chow loo	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:34:00 - [1467] WOW, 773MB Patch, That is a very large Patch. I require MOAR Floppy Disks
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:34:00 - [1468] Originally by: Tenaj Originally by: DarthNefarius WTF is happening? I got so PO'd I just uninstalled EVE.Is eve down for 7 hours plus? I can't reinstall EVE either. CCP is about to lose some subscriptions Why did you uninstall?....If you WAIT, like a grown up and not like a petulant child, the patch will be sorted and you can install it and play. Go watch some TV, wait for the masses to finish killing the download servers, check the forums so you become aware of any issues that the hasty mob have tripped over, walk the dog, finish your coffee, be thankful that you have little else other than a computer game patch to worry about right now, (unlike millions of other people) then download, patch and play. No no, thats far too mature and logical. "In response to enraged criticism of the recent long downtimes by customers, CCP has closed it's doors today, and EVE has permanently gone offline. When questioned, one developer, who shall remain anonymous, stated simple "Their words crushed us. The entire team became hopelessly depressed, and many of them committed suicide." Minutes earlier, several gunshots and screams were heard within CCP headquaters..."
Gudrian Genesis	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:34:00 - [1469] Originally by: Solstice Project Originally by: Nilco Nukem Originally by: Solstice Project Just lol. These threads usually tend to give a nice overview of the intelligence of the human being. not. So ... most of you will agree that ... ... there are plenty of players who REALLY don't have a life. That includes ppl who go to work (and those who don't -> worse) That also includes ppl who whine about having to talk to their wifes. Excuse me ? That's the worst ... how low-life can one be to talk like this about his wife. You married her / live with her. Your fault. Seriously, you suck. She has feelings too. I bet she's not really happy about an idiot sitting in front of the computer all day because he just can't manage his life. I hope you guys don't have kids. ... there also are plenty of players who realise that there's way more. Some cleaning their bikes, the house, whatever. These seem to play EvE more in their free-time and use this time to do stuff they would have done sometime else (or maybe not) but they seem to realise that "I do it now so i can play later". "I have a life too and it's interesting enough to fill it with other stuff than a game" Smart. ... there are players who post just because it's awesomely funny to read what all the low/no-lifes post (read: *** and whine about). Fully understandable for me, as there's plenty of reason to be amused about ppl who do not have a life worth living. Altough, tbh ... it's pretty sad too. Personally, i find it interesting to see the demographics. I'm definitly against refunds, except the DT gets really worse. Not that i'd demand them, but they'd be a nice present anyway if things seriously get out of hands. People repeating to post "I WANT REFUNDS BLABLA" should consider leaving the computer and instead watch some TV, which seems perfectly fitting for these kind of people. TV can't harm your brain or character anymore anyway. I understand that there are several severely sick persons who can't partake in a life of their own ... or a life they would have wanted. I am totally excluding these from my words and am seriously apologizing if you felt offended ... but the rest, who COULD but just doesn't CARE ... ... please don't breed. You'd make the world a better place. oh and there's the guy who reads the patch-day-thread to post about the ppl who he believes are funny/idiots/just stealing his oxygen ... in the hope of at least ing ONE character off ... for his own and the amusement of those who have a life ... ... or to maybe enlighten somebody (haha, sure ... ). (i love patch-day-threads ^^) (besides, these are the best threads for long posts ^^) Hey buttface, self important pricks like urself is whats wrong with the world in the first place. Your part of the catagory of people who think of themselves better and more important then other people. Your a selfobsessed nobody who pats himself on the shoulder on the interwebz clanking down on people who spend there free time playing EVE. I dedicated about 40 hours of playing time to EVE in the 2 years I've been here but still wont tolerate fools like yourself. What ticks me off is people like you buddy, posting comments on a gaming forum about people not having lives and stuff. I know it makes you feel better because you can pretend that your not the misfit that you are. Taking the out of people for posting in a thread about when the servers will be up and talking about other peoples lives when you dont know about it is wrong. Why dont you take your sorry selfimportant socialyactive ass and go out meet your friends instead of sitting here taking the out of people. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ***. You're wrong. I'm not "better" in any way. As you believe this, it seems you have some issues with your personality. Thanks for showing me how right i am, genius. ^^ I am so with you Solstice, there should be a simple "how things really work" test for a seperate forum.
smoking gun81	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:34:00 - [1470] Originally by: Cyberus did anyone else got patch fail and repair tool kick in? yeah but my repair tool went like a bat outa hell finaly seen some good results from the cost of these SSD's

balgara	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:34:00 - [1471] some of the changes are going to be good..but i think taking some sanctums and havens away from -0.0 is bs and it seems ccp's pets like pandemic legion and init get a boost and benifit from it since they have cried like little babies even though ccp helped them out and they still got sent home packing..the sandbox is now filed with cat****..if you can't handle the gameplay instead of crying go play dark orbit or something
Reestoh San	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:34:00 - [1472] Originally by: Florence Valentine Originally by: Reestoh San Originally by: Florence Valentine I noticed that there are just 8 players online - no one else can connect. Obviously a few GMs are running round naked before everyone else logs on. Pictures, or it didn't happen I see there is 11 of them now. This is a lot of nakedness. I'm sure I didn't see "nudist beach" in the patch notes? They did say something about new DED complexes.... maybe one of them is a nudist one?
Deckington Forgecaster	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:35:00 - [1473] Addictive game to pass the time http://www.thegamehomepage.com/play/trollface-the-game/
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:35:00 - [1474] Originally by: CopperNail patch notes; An issue with removing the female bra within character creation has been fixed, unfortunately. Ow is there a male bra?? Yes. It's called a Bro. lol I was unaware of this "bug" existing. Now I'm curious about whether the female models actually have nipples. lol
Iella Tesla	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:35:00 - [1475] Originally by: Darteis Elosia So... Has anyone read Encyclopedia Dramatica's article on eve online? It's hilarious and totally NSFW! Amazing thank you.
Gudrian Genesis	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:36:00 - [1476] Originally by: Florence Valentine Originally by: Reestoh San Originally by: Florence Valentine I noticed that there are just 8 players online - no one else can connect. Obviously a few GMs are running round naked before everyone else logs on. Pictures, or it didn't happen I see there is 11 of them now. This is a lot of nakedness. I'm sure I didn't see "nudist beach" in the patch notes? The nudist beach was a special surprize!
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:37:00 - [1477] Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: CopperNail patch notes; An issue with removing the female bra within character creation has been fixed, unfortunately. Ow is there a male bra?? Yes. It's called a Bro. lol I was unaware of this "bug" existing. Now I'm curious about whether the female models actually have nipples. lol And another f*** up which shouldnt have been made public to nerds
Sora De'Quasar Minmatar Cosmodynamics	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:37:00 - [1478] damn this reminds me of the release of Mass Effect 2 Lair of the shadowbrocker DLC, so much fail in one evening. thank god that with eve we dont have to be **ed that PS3 gets everything working and we are **ed. it was a 1G download full of "000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000" now THAT was a fail guess we waited this long, we can wait a little bit more. no?
Victor Sigmund Balducci	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:38:00 - [1479] Originally by: Transius Porta Edited by: Transius Porta on 06/04/2011 17:35:00 [Snip!]...while you're sitting on you bum doing absolutely nothing constructive :P.. [Snip!] Thats what we would do if the servers we're up too!
Enkill Eridos Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire Massive Dynamic Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:40:00 - [1480] Edited by: Enkill Eridos on 06/04/2011 17:43:36 Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: cowboyxxx 0.0 people are worse than carebears in highsec. You hide behind a huge alliance instead of the systems security - so how are you any different than a carebear alliance hiding behind a 1.0 sec system? I mean, I can't attack them because it's high sec, I also can't attack you because you have 300 people on standby to jump me or my 15 man fleet - get real you crybabys. These huge groups like NC have pretty much taken every ounce of 0.0 isk from everyone else in the game, and use 300 man blobs to deter anyone else from even trying to get in on the isk. That's funny. There are regular roams through NC space all that time. Some are solo / pairs, and others are small 5-10 man gangs that are quite successful in getting in, messing up a bunch of ratters / miners, and getting out with minimal losses. Happens on a daily basis, actually. Is the reason you're just unable to do this perhaps that you suck at Eve and would rather whine about it? He is just mad because his alliance is getting pwned in Wicked Creek...It's not that we are carebears we are just lazy and want the targets to come to us..If his alliance wants good fights go beyond just jumping the gates...I welcome a good fight I just don't want to have to roam to find one.

Florence Valentine	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:41:00 - [1481] Originally by: Gudrian Genesis Originally by: Florence Valentine Originally by: Reestoh San Originally by: Florence Valentine I noticed that there are just 8 players online - no one else can connect. Obviously a few GMs are running round naked before everyone else logs on. Pictures, or it didn't happen I see there is 11 of them now. This is a lot of nakedness. I'm sure I didn't see "nudist beach" in the patch notes? The nudist beach was a special surprize! Now there is only 6... Looks like the others ran off with their buddies clothes. The little rascals!
Lemming Alpha1dash1 Lemmings Online	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:43:00 - [1482] download from Chribba's cave ftw
Tecno 51	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:43:00 - [1483] Get your stuff to gather CCP?! I cant add skills to my toon because I cant log in to add it to training. I wont be able to do that until next day when I got time to do it (if its up by then). Tnx for wasting 6 hours or more worth of SP!
Ta'nor Gru'nald	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:44:00 - [1484] Originally by: Deckington Forgecaster Addictive game to pass the time http://www.thegamehomepage.com/play/trollface-the-game/ Epic win for this link. lol
Reestoh San	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:44:00 - [1485] Originally by: Tecno 51 Get your stuff to gather CCP?! I cant add skills to my toon because I cant log in to add it to training. I wont be able to do that until next day when I got time to do it (if its up by then). Tnx for wasting 6 hours or more worth of SP! noob
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:45:00 - [1486] NEW UPDATE... Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 20:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here.
AKTOK	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:45:00 - [1487] i wonder if the lags gone , shhh, i can wonder
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:45:00 - [1488] Originally by: Victor Sigmund Balducci Originally by: Transius Porta Edited by: Transius Porta on 06/04/2011 17:35:00 [Snip!]...while you're sitting on you bum doing absolutely nothing constructive :P.. [Snip!] Thats what we would do if the servers we're up too! you took that out of context :p i was saying that ccp were working on the issue while complainers (well prolly most of us but complainers being the target) were doing nothing constructive
Eve Alabell	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:46:00 - [1489] Originally by: Enkill Eridos Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: cowboyxxx 0.0 people are worse than carebears in highsec. You hide behind a huge alliance instead of the systems security - so how are you any different than a carebear alliance hiding behind a 1.0 sec system? I mean, I can't attack them because it's high sec, I also can't attack you because you have 300 people on standby to jump me or my 15 man fleet - get real you crybabys. These huge groups like NC have pretty much taken every ounce of 0.0 isk from everyone else in the game, and use 300 man blobs to deter anyone else from even trying to get in on the isk. That's funny. There are regular roams through NC space all that time. Some are solo / pairs, and others are small 5-10 man gangs that are quite successful in getting in, messing up a bunch of ratters / miners, and getting out with minimal losses. Happens on a daily basis, actually. Is the reason you're just unable to do this perhaps that you suck at Eve and would rather whine about it? He is just mad because his alliance is getting pwned in Wicked Creek. hm ^^ games like eve and wow are supporting the loss of social skills ;)alß i will blow everything up... blabla xD but did these alliances realy shot on everything that isnt in his ranks? would be a bit radical? wouldnt it be?
Saggatt	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:46:00 - [1490] Originally by: Reestoh San Originally by: Tecno 51 Get your stuff to gather CCP?! I cant add skills to my toon because I cant log in to add it to training. I wont be able to do that until next day when I got time to do it (if its up by then). Tnx for wasting 6 hours or more worth of SP! noob Agreed. They warned about that very 'issue' anyway a couple of days ago when they announced the downtime.

Iella Tesla	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:46:00 - [1491] Originally by: Tecno 51 Get your stuff to gather CCP?! I cant add skills to my toon because I cant log in to add it to training. I wont be able to do that until next day when I got time to do it (if its up by then). Tnx for wasting 6 hours or more worth of SP! Pro tip: When a patch comes out, any patch, put on a long skill to train. Five days at least, that way you don't lose training time.
Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:46:00 - [1492] Now this is the story all about how The Eve online servers got taken down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there Now take a moment about how I can help you with your dispair In the last few hours the alarms were raised Where you couldnt log in on you months remaining days You tried chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some 8 ball in online pool When a couple of Dev's they were up to no good Started exstending the downtime & noone understood You got all eager to fight and some got scared And said yo forget it im posting on the forums in this dispair You worked out what to post and grabbed another beer Took a shower said "fresh" and popped some zits mirror If anything I could say that this game was yeah But I thought nah, forget it, back to the angry stare. You waited up for 7 hours or 8 And I yelled to the keyboard "yo forget it till later. Looked at yourclock & it was final there To sit in your computer seat playing your carebare.
Naitsirch Secundus	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:46:00 - [1493] ------> Encyclopedia Dramatica <--------- who is the **-actor with the EVE-tattoo? i will actually buy that ** and let it get signed, just for the epicness
Florence Valentine	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:46:00 - [1494] Originally by: Ta'nor Gru'nald Originally by: Deckington Forgecaster Addictive game to pass the time http://www.thegamehomepage.com/play/trollface-the-game/ Epic win for this link. lol Brilliant.
galrizian Minmatar Warp Ghost's	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:49:00 - [1495] any news would be nice pls :) ?.
nat longshot	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:49:00 - [1496] Originally by: Tecno 51 Get your stuff to gather CCP?! I cant add skills to my toon because I cant log in to add it to training. I wont be able to do that until next day when I got time to do it (if its up by then). Tnx for wasting 6 hours or more worth of SP! What part of fill your skill queue did you not understand when it comes to patch day. Your fault deal with it you had warring that patch day was coming your queue runs out your fault not ccp's. NOOB!!
Sokrates Zosimus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:50:00 - [1497] Originally by: Florence Valentine Originally by: Ta'nor Gru'nald Originally by: Deckington Forgecaster Addictive game to pass the time http://www.thegamehomepage.com/play/trollface-the-game/ Epic win for this link. lol Brilliant. +1 Originally by: Jobie Kammakutu I just can't justify typing any more. I can't cure lepers, restore sight to the blind, or raise the dead so I am sure as hell not going to try and cure stupid today.
jasonw11	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:50:00 - [1498] Originally by: Major Slaphead Now this is the story all about how The Eve online servers got taken down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there Now take a moment about how I can help you with your dispair In the last few hours the alarms were raised Where you couldnt log in on you months remaining days You tried chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some 8 ball in online pool When a couple of Dev's they were up to no good Started exstending the downtime & noone understood You got all eager to fight and some got scared And said yo forget it im posting on the forums in this dispair You worked out what to post and grabbed another beer Took a shower said "fresh" and popped some zits mirror If anything I could say that this game was yeah But I thought nah, forget it, back to the angry stare. You waited up for 7 hours or 8 And I yelled to the keyboard "yo forget it till later. Looked at yourclock & it was final there To sit in your computer seat playing your carebare. brilliant
Meatay Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:51:00 - [1499] Originally by: Tecno 51 Get your stuff to gather CCP?! I cant add skills to my toon because I cant log in to add it to training. I wont be able to do that until next day when I got time to do it (if its up by then). Tnx for wasting 6 hours or more worth of SP! holy crap man, this is a good patch day compared to some...many poor hamsters have laid down their lives in the name of patch day. ----------------------------------------------
Sicarius Echerie	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:51:00 - [1500] Originally by: Major Slaphead Now this is the story all about how The Eve online servers got taken down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there Now take a moment about how I can help you with your dispair In the last few hours the alarms were raised Where you couldnt log in on you months remaining days You tried chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some 8 ball in online pool When a couple of Dev's they were up to no good Started exstending the downtime & noone understood You got all eager to fight and some got scared And said yo forget it im posting on the forums in this dispair You worked out what to post and grabbed another beer Took a shower said "fresh" and popped some zits mirror If anything I could say that this game was yeah But I thought nah, forget it, back to the angry stare. You waited up for 7 hours or 8 And I yelled to the keyboard "yo forget it till later. Looked at yourclock & it was final there To sit in your computer seat playing your carebare. +1

PicaMiolos Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:51:00 - [1501] Originally by: Sokrates Zosimus Originally by: Florence Valentine Originally by: Ta'nor Gru'nald Originally by: Deckington Forgecaster Addictive game to pass the time http://www.thegamehomepage.com/play/trollface-the-game/ Epic win for this link. lol Brilliant. +1 Damn... +2
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:51:00 - [1502] Did it occur to anyone that there is NO guarentee at all that eve will be back up in any ammount of time, not in an hour, not in a day maybe even not in a week or two.. But yet we all have confidence that it will be up any minute now.. Just saying..
Chuckles Beeshaw	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:52:00 - [1503] Edited by: Chuckles Beeshaw on 06/04/2011 17:53:01 Originally by: gintaru NEW UPDATE... Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 20:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. looks like 19:00.. http://twitter.com/eveonline "File Verification (a rather important step) means 19:00 UTC." - 20 seconds ago so that's 2pm EST
MBBD	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:52:00 - [1504] Oh well, off to work. Hopefully get to play some tomorrow.
Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:53:00 - [1505] Originally by: CopperNail Did it occur to anyone that there is NO guarentee at all that eve will be back up in any ammount of time, not in an hour, not in a day maybe even not in a week or two.. But yet we all have confidence that it will be up any minute now.. Just saying.. Yeah somone at CCP might trip over the power cable soon
Dhoom Hope	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:53:00 - [1506] Quote: Update at 17:50 UTC. Downtime is now extended until 19:00 UTC for patch file verification.
pletia	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:53:00 - [1507] 51 pages of awesomeness :-)) You guys have successfully kept me from working.
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:54:00 - [1508] Originally by: Chuckles Beeshaw Edited by: Chuckles Beeshaw on 06/04/2011 17:53:01 Originally by: gintaru NEW UPDATE... Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 20:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. looks like 19:00.. http://twitter.com/eveonline "File Verification (a rather important step) means 19:00 UTC." - 20 seconds ago so that's 2pm EST True but i bet i made atleast 50+ ppl go Ah f**k this....
Alane Morria	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:54:00 - [1509] Originally by: pletia 51 pages of awesomeness :-)) You guys have successfully kept me from working. I know, right? lol
DAM1987	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:54:00 - [1510] Originally by: Enkill Eridos Edited by: Enkill Eridos on 06/04/2011 17:43:36 Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: cowboyxxx 0.0 people are worse than carebears in highsec. You hide behind a huge alliance instead of the systems security - so how are you any different than a carebear alliance hiding behind a 1.0 sec system? I mean, I can't attack them because it's high sec, I also can't attack you because you have 300 people on standby to jump me or my 15 man fleet - get real you crybabys. These huge groups like NC have pretty much taken every ounce of 0.0 isk from everyone else in the game, and use 300 man blobs to deter anyone else from even trying to get in on the isk. That's funny. There are regular roams through NC space all that time. Some are solo / pairs, and others are small 5-10 man gangs that are quite successful in getting in, messing up a bunch of ratters / miners, and getting out with minimal losses. Happens on a daily basis, actually. Is the reason you're just unable to do this perhaps that you suck at Eve and would rather whine about it? He is just mad because his alliance is getting pwned in Wicked Creek...It's not that we are carebears we are just lazy and want the targets to come to us..If his alliance wants good fights go beyond just jumping the gates...I welcome a good fight I just don't want to have to roam to find one. EnKill i love a good cry... i mean whats better and it rally get everything sorted dosnt it and the river of tears <3 .. i love you Embarassed

viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:54:00 - [1511] those of you who havent took a bath yet please do so now and the game will be up and running when you are clean
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:55:00 - [1512] Quote: Update at 17:50 UTC. Downtime is now extended until 19:00 UTC for patch file verification. Anyone else just laugh when they read that? It seems I'm past the point of expectations.
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:55:00 - [1513] this epic fail becomes a ...critical epic fail in short time.
Victor Sigmund Balducci	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:55:00 - [1514] Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Victor Sigmund Balducci Originally by: Transius Porta Edited by: Transius Porta on 06/04/2011 17:35:00 [Snip!]...while you're sitting on you bum doing absolutely nothing constructive :P.. [Snip!] Thats what we would do if the servers we're up too! you took that out of context :p i was saying that ccp were working on the issue while complainers (well prolly most of us but complainers being the target) were doing nothing constructive And thats pretty much what goes on when we play the game too. Sitting on our arses complaining, while CCP is working. "Damn why couldn't have made the roles system easier to work with?" "My god, every time i wanna jumpclone or plug an implant in i got to pause the skill training.. gaaah!"
Alma Matter	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:55:00 - [1515] Some of the files have been modified! Examining File : /Contents/Frameworks/wineserver -> SHA1 Error ... reinstal client, just as usual! :(
Joneleth Rein Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:55:00 - [1516] The hamsters are revolting I tell you... The end is nigh! They've had enough and are overthrowing their CCP Devs.
Keleth AlThul	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:56:00 - [1517] Are the american servers not up yet? i got the patch but its not accepting connections wtf meeehhhhhh i wanna play it will keep my gf out of my hair lol:)
Horrendous Mauler	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:56:00 - [1518] I'm downloading the patch now!
Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:56:00 - [1519] Edited by: Major Slaphead on 06/04/2011 17:57:49 How do you click start in troll face damn it! I cant do it.
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:57:00 - [1520] I think they're just fracking with us now. Getting trolled by CCP... lulwut? Nah... but it is a bit dissapointing.

Enkill Eridos Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire Massive Dynamic Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:57:00 - [1521] Edited by: Enkill Eridos on 06/04/2011 17:58:05 Originally by: Eve Alabell Originally by: Enkill Eridos Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: cowboyxxx 0.0 people are worse than carebears in highsec. You hide behind a huge alliance instead of the systems security - so how are you any different than a carebear alliance hiding behind a 1.0 sec system? I mean, I can't attack them because it's high sec, I also can't attack you because you have 300 people on standby to jump me or my 15 man fleet - get real you crybabys. These huge groups like NC have pretty much taken every ounce of 0.0 isk from everyone else in the game, and use 300 man blobs to deter anyone else from even trying to get in on the isk. That's funny. There are regular roams through NC space all that time. Some are solo / pairs, and others are small 5-10 man gangs that are quite successful in getting in, messing up a bunch of ratters / miners, and getting out with minimal losses. Happens on a daily basis, actually. Is the reason you're just unable to do this perhaps that you suck at Eve and would rather whine about it? He is just mad because his alliance is getting pwned in Wicked Creek. hm ^^ games like eve and wow are supporting the loss of social skills ;)alß i will blow everything up... blabla xD but did these alliances realy shot on everything that isnt in his ranks? would be a bit radical? wouldnt it be? No, it's not about that. I would rather PVP, but I would rather not have to worry about being pulled into a gate camp solo. So I tend to stay in areas where I have the homefield advantage so to speak. But like everyone else that lives in 0.0 I would rather be the hunter than the prey. You are welcome to come to my region, you look on my killboard(which are not really that great, this is due to the fact I have really only been living in null sec for collectively about 2 months. My account has not been active due to personal reasons.) you should figure out that if you want a good fight please come and find me. I'm not saying I will win, but I enjoy good fights..I gots heart.
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:58:00 - [1522] Originally by: Keleth AlThul Are the american servers not up yet? i got the patch but its not accepting connections wtf meeehhhhhh i wanna play it will keep my gf out of my hair lol:) Ditching her will aswell, you aren't forced to play computer games :p
Killer Schnitzel	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:58:00 - [1523] This just in... EVE Patch downtime has been long enough for the Damsel in Distress to get captured, released, recaptured, impregnated, released, get fat, pop out a kid, send the kid to university, kid graduate from university, and replace her mom as stupid chick who hangs out with the wrong people. Oops, kid is now Damsel replacement and was captured...
TheTownDrunk Nardieu	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:59:00 - [1524] patch downloaded and installed with no issues..but Tranquility is not accepting connections :( I was hoping to get a chance to check it out before I have to do to work.
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:59:00 - [1525] Originally by: Eve Alabell hm ^^ games like eve and wow are supporting the loss of social skills ;)alß i will blow everything up... blabla xD but did these alliances realy shot on everything that isnt in his ranks? would be a bit radical? wouldnt it be? lol Yeah, it's a pretty common syndrome in MMOs. You get some regular people that just like to play them for fun and for the social challenge they present. They're the ones that just have fun, go with the flow, and will easily laugh off a Titan loss as long as they had fun in the fight. Then you have the group of people (usually 30+ year old, unemployed, pasty-face basement dwellers living with their mom) who use them as a tool to get revenge on "society" for all the daily wedgies they received through high school for being such socially-challenged nerds.
Crysis Elegante	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:59:00 - [1526] Now I've done it! Quote: Pyramid quoting (quoting more than 4 people recursively) is not allowed, please remove some of the quotes and try again! CONCORD has been notified
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 17:59:00 - [1527] ohh i just loaded and they changed it to 1900 utc time now hahahaha more down time for ppl to poop and shower again
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:00:00 - [1528] Originally by: Keleth AlThul Are the american servers not up yet? i got the patch but its not accepting connections wtf meeehhhhhh i wanna play it will keep my gf out of my hair lol:) uuuuh dude... there is no "american servers". it's all the same servers for each and everyone of us, be you american, british, norwegian, etc.
Sir Porkalot Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:00:00 - [1529] Originally by: Keleth AlThul Are the american servers not up yet? i got the patch but its not accepting connections wtf meeehhhhhh i wanna play it will keep my gf out of my hair lol:) American servers??? Go back to WOW, goober.
Dark Tobby	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:00:00 - [1530] Eve online pickup lines to get a quick one before the server is up:) http://goanimate.com/movie/0m94vn0emH94/1?utm_source=twitter&uid=0Mz5gYqkvLzE&source=goanimate.com

Zangorus	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:00:00 - [1531] I wanna play :(
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:00:00 - [1532] Quote: Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 19:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. ARGH!!! What a quick stab right into heart. Sudden death period is in ladies, gentlemen, decent folk and the equality mobsters. Now it is only 2-3 hours left, but they should deliver second official patch and get us into game. I fear we will need to troll for a bit more... Let us not fail our dear readers down neither in quality or quantity of our post. :) -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:01:00 - [1533] A quote I like. The pyramid is the strongest shape in nature.
Scarria Zarkina Caldari Enfex Corporation	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:01:00 - [1534] Originally by: TheTownDrunk Nardieu patch downloaded and installed with no issues..but Tranquility is not accepting connections :( I was hoping to get a chance to check it out before I have to do to work. This is what I am hoping for. I work very near to the new time.
Miss NBT	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:02:00 - [1535] Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Keleth AlThul Are the american servers not up yet? i got the patch but its not accepting connections wtf meeehhhhhh i wanna play it will keep my gf out of my hair lol:) Ditching her will aswell, you aren't forced to play computer games :p there are no american server O.o lol lol eve is en icelandic game (look it up on google maps) its 1 singel server that is in england .... just to inform you a bit ( oohhh yea the chinese have there own server i think but this is becouse they need to close the server after a special time for those)
Max Milton	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:02:00 - [1536] Could all you guys stop using the webifier on CCP personal?
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:02:00 - [1537] Originally by: Major Slaphead Edited by: Major Slaphead on 06/04/2011 17:57:49 How do you click start in troll face damn it! I cant do it. Try loading the game again cough Might take a few tries cough
LiquidatorBrunt	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:02:00 - [1538] ffs we are still down :( hopefully the patch is a nice suprise
Jack Calypo	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:03:00 - [1539] Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 19:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. do we get Skill points for the lost play time????
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:03:00 - [1540] Guys... File Verification AFTER Client Deployment... AFTER recognize another Error and fixing this... Shut up your Developers... Really. That Sucks. Why u have an Sandbox ? Finish your work BEFORE deploy it. You're working on an running productive Cluster your Development... while Patching... seems unprofessional.

gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:04:00 - [1541] Originally by: Miss NBT Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Keleth AlThul Are the american servers not up yet? i got the patch but its not accepting connections wtf meeehhhhhh i wanna play it will keep my gf out of my hair lol:) Ditching her will aswell, you aren't forced to play computer games :p there are no american server O.o lol lol eve is en icelandic game (look it up on google maps) its 1 singel server that is in england .... just to inform you a bit ( oohhh yea the chinese have there own server i think but this is becouse they need to close the server after a special time for those) Have you ever played wow? like Chinese gold farmers man... you have Eve Fall over from all the ore disappearing!
Dirk Decibel	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:04:00 - [1542] Ok, I'm getting in tbl now. My newest char only has 8 hours left in his skill queue and I will have to head to bed in an hour or so, I can't handle another extension CCP, I CAN'T!1!1!1!
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:04:00 - [1543] Originally by: Enkill Eridos No, it's not about that. I would rather PVP, but I would rather not have to worry about being pulled into a gate camp solo. So I tend to stay in areas where I have the homefield advantage so to speak. But like everyone else that lives in 0.0 I would rather be the hunter than the prey. You are welcome to come to my region, you look on my killboard(which are not really that great, this is due to the fact I have really only been living in null sec for collectively about 2 months. My account has not been active due to personal reasons.) you should figure out that if you want a good fight please come and find me. I'm not saying I will win, but I enjoy good fights..I gots heart. Well, not to be trolling or anything, but if you know what you're doing, you can pretty much go anywhere in 0.0 without getting caught at least 90% of the time and get kills too. Sounds like you need to gain some some experience in evading hostiles. It's really not that hard most of the time. But inevitably, you will get caught, either through a screwup on your own part (and the key is to learn from that mistake), or that you just have an "oh sh*t" moment and end up where you probably shouldn't have gone and couldn't have known...
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:04:00 - [1544] Originally by: Jack Calypo Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 19:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. do we get Skill points for the lost play time???? Why would you? any lost skillpoints is your own fault :p.. Might get a free day of playtime if lucky and of course behave nicely
Jilly Serkov	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [1545] The deployment for EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been extended to 18:00 UTC while we we investigate an edge-case issue that may adversely affect a small number of our players. We apologize for this inconvenience. If its back to 19:00 would be nice if the website login would reflect that :/ ho hum Its unlikely to win the "patch of the century award" anyway, so whats a little more delay? Just do it right CCP, and lets hope u gave some love to large fleet fights in 0.0, some more interesting red x's for the hard of thinking to shoot, lowsec becomes something other than a pointless place to die in, and one day we get world peace rather than world in pieces. Somehow I get the impression they are all on the same timeline. How is Jumpgate Evolution getting on these days btw?
Enkill Eridos Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire Massive Dynamic Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [1546] Originally by: aquatac Guys... File Verification AFTER Client Deployment... AFTER recognize another Error and fixing this... Shut up your Developers... Really. That Sucks. Why u have an Sandbox ? Finish your work BEFORE deploy it. You're working on an running productive Cluster your Development... while Patching... seems unprofessional. ROFL that's funny..
IMORTALL11 Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [1547] I Think CCP must give us one day for free of charge to all. THE GREEK GOD
Eve Alabell	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [1548] Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: Eve Alabell hm ^^ games like eve and wow are supporting the loss of social skills ;)alß i will blow everything up... blabla xD but did these alliances realy shot on everything that isnt in his ranks? would be a bit radical? wouldnt it be? lol Yeah, it's a pretty common syndrome in MMOs. You get some regular people that just like to play them for fun and for the social challenge they present. They're the ones that just have fun, go with the flow, and will easily laugh off a Titan loss as long as they had fun in the fight. Then you have the group of people (usually 30+ year old, unemployed, pasty-face basement dwellers living with their mom) who use them as a tool to get revenge on "society" for all the daily wedgies they received through high school for being such socially-challenged nerds. then the devs should make it a bit harder for the big alliances with the mass of pseudo-"progamers". dont know how... eventually embargos from some of the empires, or wars with them. dont think that the gallente federation for example like it to see that a company is blowing their citizen into pieces :D
Lex Avril	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [1549] Every minute to wait brings us closer to the release of Clear Skies III.
Alkoori	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [1550] am i phsycic for knowing this delay would happen ? also if you are bored watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4IPy3Edo8&feature=related funny as **** :P

Keleth AlThul	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [1551] Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Keleth AlThul Are the american servers not up yet? i got the patch but its not accepting connections wtf meeehhhhhh i wanna play it will keep my gf out of my hair lol:) Ditching her will aswell, you aren't forced to play computer games :p
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:05:00 - [1552] La lalalala.... Servers down and singin' la lalalala..... everyone is hatin' la lalalala...
Affableaardvark	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:06:00 - [1553] Thank God for minecraft!
Cerbain Flax	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:06:00 - [1554] any news guys
Forleyor Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:06:00 - [1555] Just realized we are still 55 minutes away.. FML.. I WANT TO PLAY IM ADDICTED! lol..
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:06:00 - [1556] Originally by: IMORTALL11 I Think CCP must give us one day for free of charge to all. Carefull with demanding, people flame you for that here
mercury V	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:06:00 - [1557] those of you who downloaded the patch already will have to reinstall eve as the deployment has ben canceled do to programming errors and a new version will be deployed in a few days when all the hamsters have ben trained
YaaMan2	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:07:00 - [1558] 773Mb, now THAT'S a patch!! Downloading now, so stop crying about downtimes...
Evosia	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:07:00 - [1559] Deployment of our next patch, EVE Online: Incursion 1.4, has been postponed until Wednesday, April 6. Tranquility will be taken offline at 09:00 UTC and is expected to return to service at 15:00 UTC. its now extended and extra 4 hours, dont you think its about time you stop upgradeing patch and go to ppl support only cause it seems like you only know how to **** up our game expirence, but then again we pay you for working this stuff, maby we should vote for new employment
Smiles Hart	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:07:00 - [1560]

Chung Weng	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:07:00 - [1561] Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 19:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. I picked a bad week to quit amphetamines
Thue Shadow	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:08:00 - [1562] this downtime is epicly evil i have dun everything people hav said to do, i have had a bath gone out and dun stuff even spent time with my family. I get home and still no eve
Sandra Johnson	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:08:00 - [1563] Originally by: Serenity 159080 Originally by: mkmin Originally by: Serenity 159080 Clear Responce Stuff When you referr to things like "Team "do whatever we want with no oversight"" I hope you realise that other people don't know what you are talking about, which makes it difficult to really respond. From what I understood, when CCP ignore the players you complain, and now that they are doing what players have asked for and improving the quality of the game you also don't like that. To respond more fully to you, please could you list the changes and in which way they will increase lag while decreasing functionality so that I can understand where you are coming from. It would also be useful if you could link to some of your forums posts where you propose your ideas for how to improve EVE, I can read them and understand what features you would like to see instead of what CCP are releasing. Serenity I can Point one major effect that is going to happen. Within 30 Days CCP will see a major financial loss enough to cause at least one to 5 people there to be fired over this. No two ways about it. What was mentioned above is pretty accurate. a lot of players make their money on the Anomalies, so by removing them, you are pretty much killing peoples abilities to make the isk needed to buy Plex cards, from there, players who buy the GTC's will not be selling as many, so i guess a plus side would be that Plex prices will go back down, but at what cost? I foresee a lot of players outright quitting the game because they cannot afford to play anymore.
Killer Schnitzel	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:08:00 - [1564] Originally by: Lex Avril Every minute to wait brings us closer to the release of Clear Skies III. I and II were awesome. Let the wait continue so we will have III sooner.
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:08:00 - [1565] Edited by: Epyx Nykee on 06/04/2011 18:08:14 773meg's. well what a deployment, is there seriously that much coding/visual additions? Bejesus.
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:08:00 - [1566] just the usual fail by CCP, contentwise and deadline wise.
Crazy Craven Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:08:00 - [1567] Awsome looks like a free 1m SP is going to get applied from CCP for the inconvenience of my budding new EvE business, as they say..... Time is money, EvEn if it's play time! Oh my goodness, I love you CCP I love you -- if (Troll == "idiot") return "Troll is an Idiot"; else if (Troll != "idiot") return "Troll is still an idiot"; --
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:08:00 - [1568] On the bright side; if ccp personal wants to go home anytime soon they'll need to get this fixed don't they.. (wishfull thinking lvl4)
Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:09:00 - [1569] Edited by: Major Slaphead on 06/04/2011 18:11:37 http://www.arandomgame.com/index.php?game_id=899
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:09:00 - [1570] Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to Wednesday April 13, 2011 for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. Thank you for your patience.

aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:09:00 - [1571] Make a Rollback of that **** lol
gerbiless	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:09:00 - [1572] And as always you suck CCP... :)
Kerr avonn Minmatar Standard By 10	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:09:00 - [1573] Originally by: Tecno 51 Get your stuff to gather CCP?! I cant add skills to my toon because I cant log in to add it to training. I wont be able to do that until next day when I got time to do it (if its up by then). Tnx for wasting 6 hours or more worth of SP! Get your stuff together Tecno 51, hardly CCP's fault your to stupid to fill your skill queue up is it
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:10:00 - [1574] Originally by: Sandra Johnson Originally by: Serenity 159080 Originally by: mkmin Originally by: Serenity 159080 Clear Responce Stuff When you referr to things like "Team "do whatever we want with no oversight"" I hope you realise that other people don't know what you are talking about, which makes it difficult to really respond. From what I understood, when CCP ignore the players you complain, and now that they are doing what players have asked for and improving the quality of the game you also don't like that. To respond more fully to you, please could you list the changes and in which way they will increase lag while decreasing functionality so that I can understand where you are coming from. It would also be useful if you could link to some of your forums posts where you propose your ideas for how to improve EVE, I can read them and understand what features you would like to see instead of what CCP are releasing. Serenity I can Point one major effect that is going to happen. Within 30 Days CCP will see a major financial loss enough to cause at least one to 5 people there to be fired over this. No two ways about it. What was mentioned above is pretty accurate. a lot of players make their money on the Anomalies, so by removing them, you are pretty much killing peoples abilities to make the isk needed to buy Plex cards, from there, players who buy the GTC's will not be selling as many, so i guess a plus side would be that Plex prices will go back down, but at what cost? I foresee a lot of players outright quitting the game because they cannot afford to play anymore. Who the **** cant afford $15?
Jack Calypo	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:10:00 - [1575] Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Jack Calypo Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 19:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here. do we get Skill points for the lost play time???? Why would you? any lost skillpoints is your own fault :p.. Might get a free day of playtime if lucky and of course behave nicely I have a 29 day skill running , but I can't play the game and i would be nice to get some sp in return.
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:10:00 - [1576] To quote a great writer..... Know where your towel is at all times... and remember: DON'T PANIC
Thor Ofthegods	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:10:00 - [1577] Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6th, 2011 to Wednesday April 6th, 2012 for the deployment of Incursion 1.4 (we think, it may have been 1.1 again, we had the work experience kid do it for us)
Pyro Ninja Gallente S3MINAL FLUID Imperial 0rder	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:10:00 - [1578] I have a fever and the only cure is More Cowbell
Kellee Feth	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:10:00 - [1579] Still can't play.. Boo
Jamy Dodger	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:11:00 - [1580] wow what's the hold up excuse this time - typical!

VonKolroth Gallente Anarchist's Anonymous	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:11:00 - [1581] lulz, I'd love for CCP to post the message of the day as something along of the lines of, "Downtime has been indefinably extended due to; well, because ** you, that's why. What do you expect for less then 1 American dollar a day? Gone fishing, ***es". ~ A man with a Domi analyzes every problem in the terms of drones.
Radakos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:11:00 - [1582] ccp taking extending DT for new patch like they always do..
Forleyor Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:11:00 - [1583] I mean I understand the downtimes suck and all.. But seriously if it weren't for them you wouldn't even be playing the badass game we all play today =).. I mean even I have a few billion burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be spent later but whats 45 minutes lol
LiquidatorBrunt	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:12:00 - [1584]
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:12:00 - [1585] Originally by: Xan'thi La'aye To quote a great writer..... Know where your towel is at all times... and remember: DON'T PANIC +1
Sora De'Quasar Minmatar Cosmodynamics	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:12:00 - [1586] Originally by: Thue Shadow this downtime is epicly evil i have dun everything people hav said to do, i have had a bath gone out and dun stuff even spent time with my family. I get home and still no eve take another shower then?
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:13:00 - [1587] At first I tried to make witty, positve postings Then I tried to be bad, negative and plain stupid in my remarks.... Now I'm only trying to make 100 pages+ So lets break the record! 19:00 UTC is a long way off.
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:13:00 - [1588] Originally by: VonKolroth lulz, I'd love for CCP to post the message of the day as something along of the lines of, "Downtime has been indefinably extended due to; well, because ** you, that's why. What do you expect for less then 1 American dollar a day? Gone fishing, ***es". ROFL That'd be frustrating and hilarious at the same time. Quantum physics ftw
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:13:00 - [1589] CCP, y u no stop ruining my only free day in the week every time?
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:13:00 - [1590] Originally by: Forleyor I mean I understand the downtimes suck and all.. But seriously if it weren't for them you wouldn't even be playing the badass game we all play today =).. I mean even I have a few billion burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be spent later but whats 45 minutes lol Man in our Timezone here - we wait all the day now...

Forleyor Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:14:00 - [1591] <(^.^ <) <--- KIRBY!!!!
LiquidatorBrunt	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:14:00 - [1592]
SIave Master	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:14:00 - [1593] LOLOLOL I hope It lasts another 6 hours just to ** of you ****s!
Radakos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:14:00 - [1594] THIS IS NOW A WIDOT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:14:00 - [1595] Originally by: henchana At first I tried to make witty, positve postings Then I tried to be bad, negative and plain stupid in my remarks.... Now I'm only trying to make 100 pages+ So lets break the record! 19:00 UTC is a long way off. +2
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:15:00 - [1596] Its called a window of opportunity to ask for something when its actualy appropriate to do so.. You either do so like I have done or you don't thats your choice but how can anyone object to people asking for a refund for lost time? Unless you're on their payroll or trying to suck up maybe.. No apologies ccp, give us isk or sp
Reestoh San	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:15:00 - [1597] Edited by: Reestoh San on 06/04/2011 18:14:51 Originally by: Sora De'Quasar Originally by: Thue Shadow this downtime is epicly evil i have dun everything people hav said to do, i have had a bath gone out and dun stuff even spent time with my family. I get home and still no eve take another shower then? spend time with another family
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:15:00 - [1598] Originally by: aquatac Originally by: Forleyor I mean I understand the downtimes suck and all.. But seriously if it weren't for them you wouldn't even be playing the badass game we all play today =).. I mean even I have a few billion burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be spent later but whats 45 minutes lol Man in our Timezone here - we wait all the day now... Go do something else perhaps? i am sure the gametime lost if you do not return exactly on server start, won't ruin your life.
Smiles Hart	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:15:00 - [1599] Do be do be doooooo
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:15:00 - [1600] Originally by: Pyro Ninja I have a fever and the only cure is More Cowbell I love Cowbell and real time moderators

infinity plus one	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:15:00 - [1601] Ah I see!! ccp gives Us tattoos and piercings for the waiting
Mehashi 'Kho	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:16:00 - [1602] I see people commenting on another downtime extension? May I ask where you are getting this updated information? I can't see anything on the eve information portal indicating this change :(
Mr Smithy	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:16:00 - [1603] well we had planned to kill a tower 2 hours before war dec finishes, i am thinking of a word beginning with 'C' 5 letters can you guess?
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:16:00 - [1604] anyone got a direct link or torrent to the patch? this stupid autopatcher says 231 kb/sec and 40 minutes left for more than an hour now, and it managed to dl a whopping 218 MB so far. what kind of cretin wrote this code?
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:16:00 - [1605] Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: aquatac Originally by: Forleyor I mean I understand the downtimes suck and all.. But seriously if it weren't for them you wouldn't even be playing the badass game we all play today =).. I mean even I have a few billion burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be spent later but whats 45 minutes lol Man in our Timezone here - we wait all the day now... Go do something else perhaps? i am sure the gametime lost if you do not return exactly on server start, won't ruin your life. no but my high sec flight lol
LiquidatorBrunt	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:16:00 - [1606] fek arse
Forleyor Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:17:00 - [1607] And portrait respecs if i remember correctly =) lol..
eddaking	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:17:00 - [1608] Originally by: Sandra Johnson Originally by: Serenity 159080 Originally by: mkmin Originally by: Serenity 159080 Clear Responce Stuff When you referr to things like "Team "do whatever we want with no oversight"" I hope you realise that other people don't know what you are talking about, which makes it difficult to really respond. From what I understood, when CCP ignore the players you complain, and now that they are doing what players have asked for and improving the quality of the game you also don't like that. To respond more fully to you, please could you list the changes and in which way they will increase lag while decreasing functionality so that I can understand where you are coming from. It would also be useful if you could link to some of your forums posts where you propose your ideas for how to improve EVE, I can read them and understand what features you would like to see instead of what CCP are releasing. Serenity I can Point one major effect that is going to happen. Within 30 Days CCP will see a major financial loss enough to cause at least one to 5 people there to be fired over this. No two ways about it. What was mentioned above is pretty accurate. a lot of players make their money on the Anomalies, so by removing them, you are pretty much killing peoples abilities to make the isk needed to buy Plex cards, from there, players who buy the GTC's will not be selling as many, so i guess a plus side would be that Plex prices will go back down, but at what cost? I foresee a lot of players outright quitting the game because they cannot afford to play anymore. actully this would be good for the eve economy as it means that there will be less isk being introduced into the game via plex...but then again by this logic it is also good for lots of ships to be blown up... sorry for the over use of quotation,but didnt know how to remove the older quotes
Radakos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:17:00 - [1609] im purty kelmad atm....
Sean Haley	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:17:00 - [1610] Originally by: Pyro Ninja I have a fever and the only cure is More Cowbell i can help u..play Cowbell Hero

Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:17:00 - [1611] Originally by: aquatac Originally by: Forleyor I mean I understand the downtimes suck and all.. But seriously if it weren't for them you wouldn't even be playing the badass game we all play today =).. I mean even I have a few billion burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be spent later but whats 45 minutes lol Man in our Timezone here - we wait all the day now... 3 am here, ran out of witty responses due to coffee no longer make my synapses fire like it was about an hour ago. All i'm really capable of is "oooo shiny" for the most part.
Thor Ofthegods	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:18:00 - [1612] Originally by: LiquidatorBrunt fek arse Drink! Girls!
Zygoma Alaskana Caldari Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:18:00 - [1613] I think we bought the devs too much beer and Black Death on the Pub Crawl.... :(
Iella Tesla	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:18:00 - [1614] I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it.
Delkana Fox	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:18:00 - [1615] I sincerely hope that CCP responds to all the trolling by replacing all the ships with Orcs and Mages in **ty outfits just to ** people off.
disasteur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:18:00 - [1616] DT extended to 19:00 wtf?
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:18:00 - [1617] Hmm I wonder if the updated client download is on the same server as the patch. If not downloading an up to date client may be faster than downloading just the patch :p
Kellee Feth	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1618]
Mark Satro	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1619] No EVE? Nap time!
infinity plus one	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1620] dont care, we get tattooos

CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1621] Originally by: Iella Tesla I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it. GM-in disguise spotted
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1622] Originally by: Mr Smithy well we had planned to kill a tower 2 hours before war dec finishes, i am thinking of a word beginning with 'C' 5 letters can you guess? curse?
TEXHAD3OP Olympia	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1623] 11 players online? oO
Mr Smithy	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1624] no bonus for you guys getting eve to start - you fail at life!
UberSmudge	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1625] Originally by: Radakos THIS IS NOW A WIDOT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so true bro
Spaeder Gallente Azure Horizon	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1626] 7am, waking up in the morning Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal SeeinÆ everything, the time is goinÆ TickinÆ on and on, everybodyÆs rushinÆ Gotta get down to the bus stop Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends (My friends)
Glacier Gal	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:19:00 - [1627] anyone know whats going on...I havent seen an update and the patch obviously didnt work
eddaking	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:20:00 - [1628] if your bored i beilve a good site to waste time is called youtube
MD74	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:20:00 - [1629] Give me my server back, naaoow!!!
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:20:00 - [1630] Originally by: disasteur DT extended to 19:00 wtf? Devs are not Gods, server equipment isnt magical mysterious artifacts, deal with it

Zenst Hall Of Flame Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:20:00 - [1631] There is a new build available. Would you like to download it now? The build is 774.9 MB in size. Seriously, I've read the patch notes - how the hell do you manage to get the patch to be so big. Only way would be that somebody changed 1 pizel and as such I now have to pull down every single large asset again! If everytime you add a graphic item to the list of things to splat on your face and it casues a patch to be this effin big then please stop.
Iella Tesla	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:20:00 - [1632] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: Iella Tesla I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it. GM-in disguise spotted Hardly.
Anjinsu	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:20:00 - [1633] wonder why ccp indicates deployment period and never sticks to it. Just next time indicate, please, that "patch deployment will take as long as it is needed and all capsuleers can go and **** themselves", but there will be new nice avatar pictures after deployment!
Xan'thi La'aye	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:20:00 - [1634] √v^√v^√v^--------------♥ Flatlined heh
Sakura Shiroi Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:20:00 - [1635] Good thing i started my PI before Downtime :) Bad thing my Uranium Prod is not running cause i can¦t get the PI Stuff from my Resource Planets to the Manufacturing one -.- Well, time to wait and check my Anime collection :D In case i don¦t write history.... .... i¦ll just cause confusion :)
Ddolik	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:21:00 - [1636] Originally by: TEXHAD3OP Olympia 11 players online? oO yea, that's my 10 alts and 1 main, FOREVER ALONE lolo
Norby0	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:21:00 - [1637] please put online the server...
Mamba Lev BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:21:00 - [1638] Originally by: Iella Tesla I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it. Oh look it's a CCP ALT no doubt sat on a pile of T2 BPO's and the latest exploits.. In other news, i want free SP. Especially since all the couriers i have accepted will have expired with extended DT and since CCP aren't capable of providing GM's with tools to fix couriers i will get ****d by the over the top collateral. Ace.
AJCorb	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:21:00 - [1639] get over it people. if you want bad patching go play wow, the 64gb game that never runs right. CCP like any other company have to put changes in, and like life, errors will happen. if they didnt we would all be writing the software for ourselfs, if you didnt fill your queue, then how is that ccp's fault, if you have nothing better to do than sit there crying, well, maybe the subcription amount should be invested into a life. QQ'ing about it all the time wont make it faster, although it is funny reading all the whinning that people do.
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:21:00 - [1640] Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: aquatac Originally by: Forleyor I mean I understand the downtimes suck and all.. But seriously if it weren't for them you wouldn't even be playing the badass game we all play today =).. I mean even I have a few billion burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be spent later but whats 45 minutes lol Man in our Timezone here - we wait all the day now... 3 am here, ran out of witty responses due to coffee no longer make my synapses fire like it was about an hour ago. All i'm really capable of is "oooo shiny" for the most part. ok - 3am is much more harder ;) it sucks us all i think

Xin Mae D'Estal	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:21:00 - [1641] Maybe I am missing something important here.... I read a lot of complaints from people because they cannot log into the game to "earn" the ISK they use to "pay" for their subscriptions, and suggesting that CCP is going to go bankrupt from similar people turning off their subscriptions in protest of the downtime and/or because they will be unable to "earn" enough ISK under the new patch to afford their 5-6 alt characters. If you are "earning" the ISK in game to pay for your subscription and you leave, how does that hurt CCP? Or, rather, how does your use of ISK to "pay" for your subscription actually translate into IRL cash for CCP? Sounds to me like a win/win situation for CCP. Less overhead supporting farmers playing for free, and less griping from overgrown children.
Smiles Hart	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1642] la de da la de da, de de dum, hootie hoo
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1643] Originally by: Zenst There is a new build available. Would you like to download it now? The build is 774.9 MB in size. Seriously, I've read the patch notes - how the hell do you manage to get the patch to be so big. Only way would be that somebody changed 1 pizel and as such I now have to pull down every single large asset again! If everytime you add a graphic item to the list of things to splat on your face and it casues a patch to be this effin big then please stop. judging by the way my shader 2 gfx card goes absolutely mental when you open the log-in screen, their is quite a bit of 'future' code in there.
Ranma Hakaari Caldari Systems Federation	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1644] Originally by: CCP Fallout Originally by: XFluke Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. This would be a good opportunity to point out the myriad blogs we recently published on this very issue. The War on Lag is something we take very seriously, and we are constantly in the trenches fighting it. Trenches? really? cant you guys just get a Tank and dominate the battlefield, and win? like this tank here: I EAT LAG! on another note.. Keep up the good work! * Ranma Hakaari > needs a signature.
Major Slaphead	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1645] Edited by: Major Slaphead on 06/04/2011 18:24:12 Anyone playing Q W O P Didnt know Q*** Was a filter word lol.
Indorian Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1646] So while we wait... Nano cane or Armor cane? Who flies what? I fly both. :)
Sora De'Quasar Minmatar Cosmodynamics	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1647] Originally by: infinity plus one dont care, we get tattooos now thats the spirit!
Cammy Morbal	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1648] Originally by: Ddolik Originally by: TEXHAD3OP Olympia 11 players online? oO yea, that's my 10 alts and 1 main, FOREVER ALONE lolo This is so epic hahaha..
AndreWanJinn	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1649] Originally by: Spaeder 7am, waking up in the morning Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal SeeinÆ everything, the time is goinÆ TickinÆ on and on, everybodyÆs rushinÆ Gotta get down to the bus stop Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends (My friends) WHERE IS MY SHOTGUN? Also come on CCP, this just isn't funny anymore. (Okay maybe this thread is).
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1650] Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe anyone got a direct link or torrent to the patch? this stupid autopatcher says 231 kb/sec and 40 minutes left for more than an hour now, and it managed to dl a whopping 218 MB so far. what kind of cretin wrote this code? No, but I have spoken to JESUS and he said, yes he realy spoke to me and he said: Give me 100 pages of compalaint by the end of this downtime. So put your hands on the screen and start nagging, whining or just bla bla bla...

Thue Shadow	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:22:00 - [1651] waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods
Alma Matter	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1652] bandwide is stolen by client download, so no youtube... so i hope, that i doo need a second download of the client, when servers are up again.
Baron Munchousen	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1653] What a bunch of fools, you would believe it if I told you my mum is a virgin. Yea, and my dad built eve, so give me all your ISKies ok. Anyhow, point being CCP is taking the **** again, how many thousands of people are paying, not to play EVE? Have we been offered a refund? What kind of company, refuses service, but still charges the flat rate? Is that even legal? It's a scam, CCP is all sat drinking coffee, on us, laughing
Terajima Kazumi Caldari EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1654] Originally by: Xin Mae D'Estal Maybe I am missing something important here.... I read a lot of complaints from people because they cannot log into the game to "earn" the ISK they use to "pay" for their subscriptions, and suggesting that CCP is going to go bankrupt from similar people turning off their subscriptions in protest of the downtime and/or because they will be unable to "earn" enough ISK under the new patch to afford their 5-6 alt characters. If you are "earning" the ISK in game to pay for your subscription and you leave, how does that hurt CCP? Or, rather, how does your use of ISK to "pay" for your subscription actually translate into IRL cash for CCP? Sounds to me like a win/win situation for CCP. Less overhead supporting farmers playing for free, and less griping from overgrown children. The people that buy PLEX in game are not buying PLEX that materialized out of thin air; real people buy them with real money, and sell them to people in game for ISK.
Godefridus	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1655] Men, I hate those updates! Deadlines keep being missed, downtimes keep being extended, and then you will have a 1.5 hour wait for new client to download.... And as these updates and mini-updates are being enforced upon us more and more frequently, the total amount of time that I cannot play Eve keeps creeping up. Please CCP, get your act together, updates should not result in long downtimes. Remember we are paying for playing Eve, not for waiting... Regards Godefridus
Delkana Fox	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1656] Anyone else think that maybe the programmers tried to sneak in the captains quarters as a nice surprise and ended up shooting themselves in the foot instead?
Keleth AlThul	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1657] there are no american server O.o lol lol eve is en icelandic game (look it up on google maps) its 1 singel server that is in england .... just to inform you a bit ( oohhh yea the chinese have there own server i think but this is becouse they need to close the server after a special time for those) well many games have multiple servers for different regions so i made an assumption based on that.
Mark Satro	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1658] Originally by: Thue Shadow waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods And your wife pretends to not know you while you're doing it.
Ric'L	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1659] hmm.. 11 players are in the server... i guess it's the devs :)
Locutus ofBorg Caldari Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus New Horizon Enterprise's	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:23:00 - [1660] Originally by: Spaeder 7am, waking up in the morning Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal SeeinÆ everything, the time is goinÆ TickinÆ on and on, everybodyÆs rushinÆ Gotta get down to the bus stop Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends (My friends) Never... ever.... ever again.

smoking gun81	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:24:00 - [1661] Originally by: CopperNail Its called a window of opportunity to ask for something when its actualy appropriate to do so.. You either do so like I have done or you don't thats your choice but how can anyone object to people asking for a refund for lost time? Unless you're on their payroll or trying to suck up maybe.. No apologies ccp, give us isk or sp wwaahhh I cant play wwaahhh I want free stuff wwaahhh I want more free stuff The expansions are already free maybe ccp should start making you pay for them eehh. put your i want attitude away and brake out the deal with it one that is unless you unsubed from it.
Strava Katho	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:24:00 - [1662] Hwo in the wolrd of CCP is supprised over the extended downtime?.... LMAO, They never manage to keep a deadline
Mamba Lev BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:24:00 - [1663] Originally by: Indorian So while we wait... Nano cane or Armor cane? Who flies what? I fly both. :) Nano, if i want to fly a brick i will fly Amarr.
Tyme Xandr Gallente Dark Circle Enforcement	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:24:00 - [1664] Originally by: Iella Tesla I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it. I like your name. Very cool. [≡v≡]
Zey Nadar Gallente Unknown Soldiers Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:24:00 - [1665] Originally by: Delkana Fox Anyone else think that maybe the programmers tried to sneak in the captains quarters as a nice surprise and ended up shooting themselves in the foot instead? If only that were true, I wouldnt mind captain's quarters.
Ddolik	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1666] Originally by: Ric'L hmm.. 11 players are in the server... i guess it's the devs :) no, it isn't Originally by: Ddolik Originally by: TEXHAD3OP Olympia 11 players online? oO yea, that's my 10 alts and 1 main, FOREVER ALONE lolo
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1667] Originally by: Karia Sur Originally by: Zenst There is a new build available. Would you like to download it now? The build is 774.9 MB in size. Seriously, I've read the patch notes - how the hell do you manage to get the patch to be so big. Only way would be that somebody changed 1 pizel and as such I now have to pull down every single large asset again! If everytime you add a graphic item to the list of things to splat on your face and it casues a patch to be this effin big then please stop. judging by the way my shader 2 gfx card goes absolutely mental when you open the log-in screen, their is quite a bit of 'future' code in there. Someone accidently put this forum in the patch? unzipped?
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1668] WoW ! What a cluster F-udge , oh wait the message says " The cluster is not currently accepting connections " but it did show 12 players on and now 8
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1669] can you say war dec the GM kill'em all let sansha sort them out
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1670] Originally by: AJCorb although it is funny reading all the whinning that people do. Aye aye... Feel free to join in the fun. Like they say in this far away exotic country on other side of my continent... The more the merrier. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.

Iella Tesla	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1671] Originally by: Mamba Lev Originally by: Iella Tesla I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it. Oh look it's a CCP ALT no doubt sat on a pile of T2 BPO's and the latest exploits.. Nope just a player that doesn't give a crap that the DT is taking longer than expected.
Lex Avril	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1672] anybody knows, when I'm sneaking in through the bug backdoor, is Concorde already logged in?
muktorthebutcher	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1673] Originally by: Karia Sur Originally by: Zenst There is a new build available. Would you like to download it now? The build is 774.9 MB in size. Seriously, I've read the patch notes - how the hell do you manage to get the patch to be so big. Only way would be that somebody changed 1 pizel and as such I now have to pull down every single large asset again! If everytime you add a graphic item to the list of things to splat on your face and it casues a patch to be this effin big then please stop. judging by the way my shader 2 gfx card goes absolutely mental when you open the log-in screen, their is quite a bit of 'future' code in there.
Radakos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1674] do you have the time, to listen to me whine, about nothing and everything alllll at once.... i am one of those melodramatic fools....
Blonda Mea Muppet Ninja's	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1675] Umad?
catinboots Minmatar Vintage collective	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1676] whatever happened to the multiple short and less painfull patches because this isn't good , just for today i don't like you ccp 1900 utc is way past my bedtime on my local time and after a stressfull day at work i NEED my eve fix ________________________________________ Minmatar are like jedi knights, we use ductape as our force, it has a darkside and a sticky side
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1677] werent 'regular' 'smaller' patches meant to decrease the amount of time that the server was down on patch days?
Dana Kait Minmatar Glencorre Industrial Guild	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1678] Originally by: Indorian So while we wait... Nano cane or Armor cane? Who flies what? I fly both. :) Armor, I like a tank with some meat in it.
Reestoh San	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1679] Originally by: Thue Shadow ... and you suffer for ages afterwoods suffering after WOODS, well that just sounds like bad sex
Christopher Ranney	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1680] Originally by: Xin Mae D'Estal Maybe I am missing something important here.... I read a lot of complaints from people because they cannot log into the game to "earn" the ISK they use to "pay" for their subscriptions, and suggesting that CCP is going to go bankrupt from similar people turning off their subscriptions in protest of the downtime and/or because they will be unable to "earn" enough ISK under the new patch to afford their 5-6 alt characters. If you are "earning" the ISK in game to pay for your subscription and you leave, how does that hurt CCP? Or, rather, how does your use of ISK to "pay" for your subscription actually translate into IRL cash for CCP? Sounds to me like a win/win situation for CCP. Less overhead supporting farmers playing for free, and less griping from overgrown children. You're kidding, right? Somebody buys the PLEX, google Supply & Demand. If nobody is there to buy the plex, CCP loses money based on the loss in demand from the playerbase that BUYS the plex (isk) from the playerbase that BUYs the plex with cash. tl;dr you best be trollin.

TFH Famine	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1681] Mwahaha I am the only one on eve !!! All your bases are belong to me nao :D
Akashimuoyo	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1682] Originally by: eddaking actully this would be good for the eve economy as it means that there will be less isk being introduced into the game via plex... Like every other item on the marketplace Plex does not introduce new money into the economy... If CCP wants to deflate the economy they need to use cash-sinks that actually take money out, like hangar rentals and anything sold by an NPC corp. Thread derailment aside; it will be nice to play again when the cluster starts taking connections.
infinity plus one	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:25:00 - [1683] 700mb for a tatoo??
Chuckles Beeshaw	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:26:00 - [1684] Originally by: Thue Shadow waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods somebody doesnt know how to shave their balls
Abigail Nos'Tra'Damus	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:26:00 - [1685] Jeez guyz Give CCP a break. I'm sure if you would have the responsibility to keep this bunch of complainers happy, you'd postphone the server start too... EVE is great game, keep it that way. Dont like patch day? Go do the dishes or find a job
Bogz Dollocks	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:26:00 - [1686] Thinks CCP should give us 100SP for every min the server has not been back up since 15:00
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:26:00 - [1687] Originally by: Glacier Gal anyone know whats going on...I havent seen an update and the patch obviously didnt work A russian terrorist group launched several nukes towards the us from northern russia, but due to outdated Russian Tech, the nukes crashed and detonated on the way, wiping out Iceland.
Abon Caldari Pandorum Research Incorporated	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:26:00 - [1688] Originally by: Chuckles Beeshaw Originally by: Thue Shadow waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods somebody doesnt know how to shave their balls i second this.
Superform Caldari Kickass inc Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:26:00 - [1689] Quote: Maybe I am missing something important here.... I read a lot of complaints from people because they cannot log into the game to "earn" the ISK they use to "pay" for their subscriptions, and suggesting that CCP is going to go bankrupt from similar people turning off their subscriptions in protest of the downtime and/or because they will be unable to "earn" enough ISK under the new patch to afford their 5-6 alt characters. If you are "earning" the ISK in game to pay for your subscription and you leave, how does that hurt CCP? Or, rather, how does your use of ISK to "pay" for your subscription actually translate into IRL cash for CCP? Sounds to me like a win/win situation for CCP. Less overhead supporting farmers playing for free, and less griping from overgrown children. this is why its easy to make isk... from ******s you realise that PLEX is 100% paid for right? CCP dont seed it for free... ok now we have that sorted out go and rethink what you said wrong...
Thue Shadow	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:26:00 - [1690] i didnt shave my balls for my wife i did it so ccp may work faster

CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:27:00 - [1691] Originally by: Xin Mae D'Estal Maybe I am missing something important here.... I read a lot of complaints from people because they cannot log into the game to "earn" the ISK they use to "pay" for their subscriptions, and suggesting that CCP is going to go bankrupt from similar people turning off their subscriptions in protest of the downtime and/or because they will be unable to "earn" enough ISK under the new patch to afford their 5-6 alt characters. If you are "earning" the ISK in game to pay for your subscription and you leave, how does that hurt CCP? Or, rather, how does your use of ISK to "pay" for your subscription actually translate into IRL cash for CCP? Sounds to me like a win/win situation for CCP. Less overhead supporting farmers playing for free, and less griping from overgrown children. Your theory fails. Plex is always linked to RL money one way or another. Any loss of subscriptions and thus active players is damaging to eve ofcourse. Btw, this thread is specialy made for people to ***** and complain about this and ventilate their frustration here so they don't do it somewhere else, please have the curtesy to allow people to do so without flaming them for it..
Gudrian Genesis	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:27:00 - [1692] Coming to CCP's defence. common people! have you ever known computers and software to work right away just as it should? you all have such perfect lives that you have never had to find a some patch, download codexes or whatever to get a program running? Maybe some of you as stupid as me to have to google for a few hours before you solve the problem? I have not had one problem in this game that hasn't been because I didn't know better at the time and learned it later. For a game that is in constant renewal having to close down even for 24 hours is nothing we shouldn't expect, nobody is making you have to buy EvE VI to play the latest version, just find yourself something else to do for some time. Talking about the company like it is somehow betraying the client is just stupid, you have all agreed to EULA... did you read it? If the rules of play are not to your liking? play somewhere else! Do you NOT want them to do the patches? not to test them before you play so it won't crash when you are doing the last of the Epic Misson? Maybe you would let them know when you are away for a holiday so they can do the patches then? You didn't have long enough time to prepare for the Great Shutdown of Eve? need pshichiatric help some? You know they have players consulting on the progress of the game, do you know that with some 300k players you really can't do what everyone wants? I am going back to the kitchen to cook dinner and you kids play nice!
5mok1ng gun	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:27:00 - [1693] Originally by: Baron Munchousen What a bunch of fools, you would believe it if I told you my mum is a virgin. Yea, and my dad built eve, so give me all your ISKies ok. Anyhow, point being CCP is taking the **** again, how many thousands of people are paying, not to play EVE? Have we been offered a refund? What kind of company, refuses service, but still charges the flat rate? Is that even legal? It's a scam, CCP is all sat drinking coffee, on us, laughing You didnt read the EULA then did you, quick ccp another one for you to ban. FFS whiners all over where has all the prase gone for cutting down daily down times by 50% ????
Nachalnik Chukotki	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:27:00 - [1694] Cpp, please. Get back snipers BS battles. Its were much taktiks in game. And remove titans. :) More other ship tipes and fiting posabilitis. Plaing since august 2005.
The Ringer SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:27:00 - [1695] Originally by: PizzaGuy Maybe some of you Idiots up north will start asking your alliances for percentages from all the moons. 200 tech moons times 7b a month = 1.4 trillion a month. Maybe that is why you don't get the cake and eat it too. Fools + so much rep
StuRyan	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1696] Patch day tears. Best Tears
Smiles Hart	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1697] I want a cheeseburger
Enkill Eridos Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire Massive Dynamic Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1698] Originally by: Eve Alabell Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: Eve Alabell hm ^^ games like eve and wow are supporting the loss of social skills ;)alß i will blow everything up... blabla xD but did these alliances realy shot on everything that isnt in his ranks? would be a bit radical? wouldnt it be? lol Yeah, it's a pretty common syndrome in MMOs. You get some regular people that just like to play them for fun and for the social challenge they present. They're the ones that just have fun, go with the flow, and will easily laugh off a Titan loss as long as they had fun in the fight. Then you have the group of people (usually 30+ year old, unemployed, pasty-face basement dwellers living with their mom) who use them as a tool to get revenge on "society" for all the daily wedgies they received through high school for being such socially-challenged nerds. then the devs should make it a bit harder for the big alliances with the mass of pseudo-"progamers". dont know how... eventually embargos from some of the empires, or wars with them. dont think that the gallente federation for example like it to see that a company is blowing their citizen into pieces :D I am not apart of a big alliance, I am just in an active defense force..not all of us are really pirates..The only problem is that you have to convince us you are not a threat to where we live? In a game where a lot of the pvp type eve trailers deal with choice and destabilizing areas..Some of us want to actually live in systems we can call our own. From what I understand the whole NRDSI alliances and corporations did not last long because of the destabilization aspect. EVE is like three games in one, the social aspects in each region has a life of it's own. Where NPC's rule there's some cool stuff to do, but what made EVE actually appeal to me is owning a system, actually living in a system that a group of players try and keep. You build a community because you like neighbors..In a competitive game why would you want to live next door to some douchebags?
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1699] CCP has given us the ability to throw a big F'CK U in there face whenever we want to. (THEY LOVE IT!) so for f'ck sake beef up your trolling people. Show me that 0.0 Gank local Flame Troll were all so good at.
Mark Satro	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1700] Originally by: Thue Shadow i didnt shave my balls for my wife i did it so ccp may work faster You have magical bug-fixing balls?

Delkana Fox	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1701] Friday! Friday! Patch won't be done till Friday!
Fish 'n Chips	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1702] Me tinx ccp makes the forum pages larger we nerah get it to 100 pages that way(
Radakos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1703] if i had some dank, i would be just fine playing xbox360.....
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1704] Originally by: TFH Famine Mwahaha I am the only one on eve !!! All your bases are belong to me nao :D Wiat we get bases now oh yea f-n cool , POS , Planatary Interactions and BASES geez what will they think to add next ? BTW your grammer sucks , sorry .
Mamba Lev BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:28:00 - [1705] Edited by: Mamba Lev on 06/04/2011 18:30:09 Originally by: Iella Tesla Originally by: Mamba Lev Originally by: Iella Tesla I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it. Oh look it's a CCP ALT no doubt sat on a pile of T2 BPO's and the latest exploits.. Nope just a player that doesn't give a crap that the DT is taking longer than expected. I'm glad it doesn't effect you i really am. Does not give you the right to tell them "Thanks" and "Good Job" as they do not deserve the former and do not do the latter. If it said DT will be 20 hours then i wouldn't have a problem but they say it's 7, now i will lose ISK and time i have put into my interests in EVE i wouldn't have if they had just been honest and said yeah 20 hours not the joke of 7 hours. Honestly the ****s CCP employ to do their QA should tell them this will takes ages. Unfortunatley i probably should have realised it too :) Originally by:** Abon Originally by: Chuckles Beeshaw Originally by: Thue Shadow waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods somebody doesnt know how to shave their balls i second this. Yup if you set the length to 10mm when you shave your balls you will never have any discomfort again, 5mm and well that's a pain in the ass, ba boom chi.
eddaking	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:29:00 - [1706] at least the hamsters are geting a rest and as for all of you moaners out there, this doesnt happen every day, maybe once every month or two, so really complaining about missing 1 day in a month when you'd actully be on us a bit pathetic, since there is an excelent game called RL with excelent graphics 6.8 bn players etc, go try it...no offence meant.
Rikhturh	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:29:00 - [1707] Get home,no eve. grab a beer, roll a smoke, chill in the garden, soak in the sun, photograph a cosmic anomaly, no worries, Eve will be here soon. Get chased indoors by PvP red ant ninja salvagers, run upstairs to den, log in, 9 players, not accepting connections...wha-what? No Eve. On my way to pvp with the ants. Combat: Your Scalding Hot Water strikes antswarm perfectly for WRECKING 999999999999.99damage
Iella Tesla	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:29:00 - [1708] Originally by: Tyme Xandr Originally by: Iella Tesla I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it. I like your name. Very cool. Thank you.
TEXHAD3OP Olympia	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:29:00 - [1709] Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Glacier Gal anyone know whats going on...I havent seen an update and the patch obviously didnt work A russian terrorist group launched several nukes towards the us from northern russia, but due to outdated Russian Tech, the nukes crashed and detonated on the way, wiping out Iceland. Don't tought Russia :)))
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:30:00 - [1710] Originally by: Thue Shadow waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods lol..ouch..maybe we shouldn't, but we are waiting for CCP. Break out the razors.

Baron Munchousen	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:30:00 - [1711] Originally by: 5mok1ng gun Originally by: Baron Munchousen What a bunch of fools, you would believe ..... FFS whiners all over where has all the prase gone for cutting down daily down times by 50% ???? d***.
Strava Katho	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:30:00 - [1712] I dont want to complain.... But!. Dont be so optemistic, after 8 years someone shuld have leanrd that expansions never get deployed as planned. Set more time to begin with, then players get realy happy when servers are upp erlier then planned. And every one wuld be telling that CCP is gods and it always works.... Dont need a mega minde to figure that out. Second. Expansions are free. You pay each month, and with several accounts it isnt cheap either
Cable Udan Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:30:00 - [1713] Ah, sweet whining. YOUR TEARS... THEY INVIGORATE ME!
infinity plus one	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:30:00 - [1714] Meh still The cluster is not currently accepting connections
Radakos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:30:00 - [1715] you can dance if you want to , you can leave your friends behind...
Naykal Gallente Les Veilleurs de Mondes	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:30:00 - [1716] Edited by: Naykal on 06/04/2011 18:30:55 Why am I on UTC+2 ... F**** summer time >< Hope I will play before 22.00 ! Kentoc'h mervel eget beza± saotret !**
Amanda Maricadie	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1717] lol ok good i guess im not the only one that cant log on =) GO GO CCP "GIT ER DONE!"
StuRyan	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1718] for this outrage of + 4 hours I wants PLUS 5 Million SP please ty.
Gnue Caldari Red Sun Industries	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1719] Edited by: Gnue on 06/04/2011 18:30:54 to all those who whines and whine about CCP and say they will rage Quit CAN I HAVE YA STUFF
eddaking	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1720] Originally by: infinity plus one 700mb for a tatoo?? its in HD

CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1721] Originally by: Epyx Nykee CCP has given us the ability to throw a big F'CK U in there face whenever we want to. (THEY LOVE IT!) so for f'ck sake beef up your trolling people. Show me that 0.0 Gank local Flame Troll were all so good at. Now you're talking, bring it on biatch
henchana	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1722] Originally by: Fish 'n Chips Me tinx ccp makes the forum pages larger we nerah get it to 100 pages that way( Cant hurt to try :)
Venditore Iraniano	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1723] CCP move your fat ass, we all pay for this sh*T game
Akashimuoyo	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1724] Originally by: Smiles Hart I want a cheeseburger Would you like fries and a loaded sidearm with that? (This is EVE, everything comes with a gun...)
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1725] Originally by: eddaking at least the hamsters are geting a rest and as for all of you moaners out there, this doesnt happen every day, maybe once every month or two, so really complaining about missing 1 day in a month when you'd actully be on us a bit pathetic, since there is an excelent game called RL with excelent graphics 6.8 bn players etc, go try it...no offence meant. LONG LIVE THE HAMSTERS !
Alisanos Glendower Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1726] This calls for a committee meeting and a thorough public enquiry.
Tornicks Caldari The Green Cross Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:31:00 - [1727] Originally by: Naykal Edited by: Naykal on 06/04/2011 18:30:55 Why am I on UTC+2 ... F****** summer time >< Hope I will play before 22.00 ! I am UTC/GMT+4, so don't complain. --
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:32:00 - [1728] Originally by: eddaking Originally by: infinity plus one 700mb for a tatoo?? its in HD Lulz +1
Thue Shadow	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:32:00 - [1729] i guess we will see if my balls are magic when ccp gets the photo's
RRatfink	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:32:00 - [1730] All this *****ing only means one thing, CCP did a damn good job developing and maintaining Eve since all we want to do is play. Good job CCP Now put the servers back online u

Stringoula Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:32:00 - [1731] Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule.
infinity plus one	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:32:00 - [1732] Originally by: eddaking Originally by: infinity plus one 700mb for a tatoo?? its in HD but when ur drunk who can tell?
eddaking	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1733] Originally by: Gnue Edited by: Gnue on 06/04/2011 18:30:54 to all those who whines and whine about CCP and say they will rage Quit CAN I HAVE YA STUFF Can i got 50:50 with you on that offer
caldari windstar	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1734] I do not recall anyone even asking for all these all too often "updates" they are just forced on us and if you go look at most of what they are supposedly fixing, not much in them ACTUALLY benefit any of us Originally by: smoking gun81 Originally by: CopperNail Its called a window of opportunity to ask for something when its actualy appropriate to do so.. You either do so like I have done or you don't thats your choice but how can anyone object to people asking for a refund for lost time? Unless you're on their payroll or trying to suck up maybe.. No apologies ccp, give us isk or sp wwaahhh I cant play wwaahhh I want free stuff wwaahhh I want more free stuff The expansions are already free maybe ccp should start making you pay for them eehh. put your i want attitude away and brake out the deal with it one that is unless you unsubed from it. Did
Silath Silverpine	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1735] SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE! Mmmrowrrr! -Echo and wild hand gestures.-
Naykal Gallente Les Veilleurs de Mondes	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1736] Originally by: Tornicks Originally by: Naykal Edited by: Naykal on 06/04/2011 18:30:55 Why am I on UTC+2 ... F**** summer time >< Hope I will play before 22.00 ! I am UTC/GMT+4, so don't complain. Am with you eastern comrade :) Kentoc'h mervel eget beza± saotret !**
Thorana Janiette	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1737] Originally by: Chuckles Beeshaw Originally by: Thue Shadow waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods somebody doesnt know how to shave their balls If you¦re 50kg overweight like me, then trust me it hurts like hell
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1738] This thread needs more 'your mom'-jokes..
Blonda Mea Muppet Ninja's	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1739] Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. EWW
Crazy Craven Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1740] Ladies and Gentlemen you will find we have a great selection of Cheese & Crackers in the next room courtesy of myself to compliment your whine, have a wonderful day... So great to see you all crying, get over it, consider it another isk saved from the Market, because updates regardless what they are will have you buying something! -- if (Troll == "idiot") return "Troll is an Idiot"; else if (Troll != "idiot") return "Troll is still an idiot"; --

Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1741] Just one question, how many that work @ CCP are SMA? it would explain the downtime. we all know how GREAT SMA is :p
Smiles Hart	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1742] Originally by: Akashimuoyo Originally by: Smiles Hart I want a cheeseburger Would you like fries and a loaded sidearm with that? (This is EVE, everything comes with a gun...) Yes please!!
Nistrodin	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:33:00 - [1743] Does anyone know what storage CCP uses? Is it EMC? Hitachi? Netapp? HP? I work for one of the above and am just curious.
Gnue Caldari Red Sun Industries	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1744] Would you like fries and a loaded sidearm with that? (This is EVE, everything comes with a gun...) Awesome love that
Paul Muad'hib	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1745] Originally by: Alpha Schodemeiss Only an hour to go. Love it :D You are right, only one hour to go. Love it too. Now, let's see another movie, perhaps the Matrix this time...
Radakos	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1746] wanna save teh dance, wanna saaave the daaaance.. insert trippy music here
Venditore Iraniano	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1747] CCP move your fat ass, we all pay for this sh*T game
Alexa Bashkevenko	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1748] Follow my lead, while we wait ... 1. Open the client, 2. ALT+TAB out, and 3. Click here
Melkor Valor	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1749] To all those whining about increasing numbers of patches and updates and extended downtimes. Grow up ffs More patches and updates means CCP are fixing more problems, bringing new features and making an already awesome game/hobby even better for those that enjoy it and accelerating the pace which they are doing it. Considering the amount of time it takes to deploy these fixes and the minute amount of downtime experienced and relate this to the years of game play already done by most of you who are whining about patches/downtime.I think you have your perspective a little skewed. Good job CCP, keep up the good work. I always really enjoy the updates and the extra stuff they bring \o/
Iella Tesla	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1750] Originally by: Mamba Lev Edited by: Mamba Lev on 06/04/2011 18:30:09 Originally by: Iella Tesla Originally by: Mamba Lev Originally by: Iella Tesla I would just like to take this time to say to CCP, Thank you for making such a great game, and giving us free expansions. Eve better then any other MMO out there and I love it. Oh look it's a CCP ALT no doubt sat on a pile of T2 BPO's and the latest exploits.. Nope just a player that doesn't give a crap that the DT is taking longer than expected. I'm glad it doesn't effect you i really am. Does not give you the right to tell them "Thanks" and "Good Job" as they do not deserve the former and do not do the latter. If it said DT will be 20 hours then i wouldn't have a problem but they say it's 7, now i will lose ISK and time i have put into my interests in EVE i wouldn't have if they had just been honest and said yeah 20 hours not the joke of 7 hours. Honestly the ******s CCP employ to do their QA should tell them this will takes ages. Unfortunatley i probably should have realised it too :) I'm guessing you play about as much as me, which is basically all the time, the only way for us to do this is because they did a good job in making the game, period. So I say thank you and good job, because while I don't work for CCP I do know what it's like to get chewed out for doing our job right by people who don't understand it.

Shiana Soltek BlazingAngels Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1751] "Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 19:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here." well lets see how close to 1900 that make it. And still, this forum thread has yet to be updated with ANY info from the devs on the progress and status of the patch, unlike last time when they gave us hourly or :30 minute updates on the progress. Come on ccp, wake up, learn from last expansion's success and start keeping your subscribers informed on how things are going, and why it is taking so long. It worked last time, ppl were happy, and things went smoother, why are you being brainless twits this time and not keeping us informed?
Helion Dhamphir	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1752] Downtime extended due to hardware upgrades needed to cover this threads' expansion
Chuckles Beeshaw	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:34:00 - [1753] Originally by: Thorana Janiette Originally by: Chuckles Beeshaw Originally by: Thue Shadow waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods somebody doesnt know how to shave their balls If you¦re 50kg overweight like me, then trust me it hurts like hell being overweight has nothing to do with it.. going over the same spot more than once will though. also i never thought i'd be discussing pubic hair shaving on the eve forums. cool
SaltyandSweet Amarr Steady Mobbin The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1754] Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. go play wow then ***got.
Wallis Jenkins	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1755] Originally by: TEXHAD3OP Olympia Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Glacier Gal anyone know whats going on...I havent seen an update and the patch obviously didnt work A russian terrorist group launched several nukes towards the us from northern russia, but due to outdated Russian Tech, the nukes crashed and detonated on the way, wiping out Iceland. Don't tought Russia :))) +1)))
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1756] Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. LOL that's because WOW is a f-n cartoon . It's easy to add to stupidity when there is such a good start to add on to ! EvE is just about a BILLION times more complicated than Blizzards Cartoon
Akashimuoyo	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1757] Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. ROFL... I played their MMO from vanilla to Cata, Blizzard has a very long history of hextuple-extended downtimes... usually coming right after they opened the servers too fast after one of their buggy patches and corrupted a few thousand character profiles. By comparison CCP is a responsible, upstanding IT company... lol
Kalpel Caldari United Systems of the Allegiance Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1758]
Jamy Dodger	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1759] we would at least like an explanation ccp? your updates are very poor and run about an hour behind schedule, stop telling us patch will be extended another hour an hour after the time you input - we know!
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1760] client patched (~700mb) now it's time for 'Repairing the EVE Online Client' (1.02GB) :] as always gj ccp o7

StuRyan	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1761] CCP here, we are sorry for the delay, we have planned to keep the server down for another 30 days so most of your accounts will run out of subscription. Please feel free to renew subscriptions....
Countess DeMoNey	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1762] Originally by: Xin Mae D'Estal Maybe I am missing something important here.... I read a lot of complaints from people because they cannot log into the game to "earn" the ISK they use to "pay" for their subscriptions, and suggesting that CCP is going to go bankrupt from similar people turning off their subscriptions in protest of the downtime and/or because they will be unable to "earn" enough ISK under the new patch to afford their 5-6 alt characters. If you are "earning" the ISK in game to pay for your subscription and you leave, how does that hurt CCP? Or, rather, how does your use of ISK to "pay" for your subscription actually translate into IRL cash for CCP? Sounds to me like a win/win situation for CCP. Less overhead supporting farmers playing for free, and less griping from overgrown children. Well I'm sure you know that PLEX are generated when a player BUYS them from CCP, so the "free" subscriptions from buying plexes in game are still paid for in real cash... its just that those players are giving the other player isk to pay real money for their account. This benefits CCP by eliminating the need for third party ISK sellers that so badly plague other games like world of warcraft. Some people have more limited time on the game, or have enough money that it is worth it to buy isk from EVE rather than go spend hours mining or whatever, giving them the ability to get what they want when they want it, while others, like myself, that have plenty of time in game (and the know how) to generate large amounts of isk but are limited in RL cash, can continue to play. I'ts a matter of supply and demand. Too many people buying plexes with cash and the plex price goes down. Too many people relying on plexes to keep their accounts up, the market value of plex's goes up. CCP is not going to go broke by having plexes cuz one way or another, every account/month is paid for by someone. Currently PLEX prices have been going up, indicating less people buying them, or more people using them. The system balances itself, and I'm personally glad this system exists.
AzCean	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:35:00 - [1763] I just hope they give free sp like back when they launched Tyrannis patch. Then again CCP is doing a lot better work than Blizzard usually does. ok i want free SP too =) .
Tuf'kon	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1764] Badger.. badger.. badger.. badger.. mushroom.. badger.. badger
infinity plus one	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1765] Originally by: Crazy Craven Ladies and Gentlemen you will find we have a great selection of Cheese & Crackers in the next room courtesy of myself to compliment your whine, have a wonderful day... So great to see you all crying, get over it, consider it another isk saved from the Market, because updates regardless what they are will have you buying something! 0 I pass on the crackers n wine till u get dressed decent thank you
eddaking	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1766] Originally by: infinity plus one Originally by: eddaking Originally by: infinity plus one 700mb for a tatoo?? its in HD but when ur drunk who can tell? ho do you log on when your drunk, if tried and failed to do this a few times...
Mr Cain Amarr Guardians Of Peace	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1767] No eve for the RL working men today. Auto patch din't work.
smoking gun81	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1768] Originally by: Baron Munchousen Originally by: 5mok1ng gun Originally by: Baron Munchousen What a bunch of fools, you would believe ..... FFS whiners all over where has all the prase gone for cutting down daily down times by 50% ???? d***. yeah i totaly agree this thread is full of them demanding free fecking stuff....
Commander Ogir	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1769] This is how they shut down everything... TV Shows, candy, games... First they announce they will return in x hours/days... then you wait. Then the time has come and they postpone... and postpone... postpone. DAMNIT! THIS ISN'T EVE NUKEM!
Gnue Caldari Red Sun Industries	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1770] Originally by: eddaking Originally by: Gnue Edited by: Gnue on 06/04/2011 18:30:54 to all those who whines and whine about CCP and say they will rage Quit CAN I HAVE YA STUFF Can i got 50:50 with you on that offer sure i'l go whit that

Chui Menta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1771] I just realized I've been staring at the login screen with my mouth open for 5 minutes. Awesome.
Strava Katho	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:36:00 - [1772] Originally by: Tuf'kon Badger.. badger.. badger.. badger.. mushroom.. badger.. badger SNAAAAAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tristan Acoma Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:37:00 - [1773] Originally by: Shiana Soltek "Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 19:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here." well lets see how close to 1900 that make it. And still, this forum thread has yet to be updated with ANY info from the devs on the progress and status of the patch, unlike last time when they gave us hourly or :30 minute updates on the progress. Come on ccp, wake up, learn from last expansion's success and start keeping your subscribers informed on how things are going, and why it is taking so long. It worked last time, ppl were happy, and things went smoother, why are you being brainless twits this time and not keeping us informed? Yes, because what we want is resources being diverted from fixing the issues to explaining them to the CSR-types every half hour. I'm sure that will make things go more quickly.
WisdomPanda Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:37:00 - [1774] Originally by: Anjinsu wonder why ccp indicates deployment period and never sticks to it. Just next time indicate, please, that "patch deployment will take as long as it is needed and all capsuleers can go and **** themselves", but there will be new nice avatar pictures after deployment! The inability to predict the time it will take you to handle a job is a techs curse. If you haven't fallen victim to massively under estimating the time required at least once, you haven't been working enough. :) Client: "How long will it take?" Tech: "Shouldn't be an issue, we've run roll outs on the test servers in under 15mins, so lets say 30mins, tops." Client: "Awesome!" // 28mins later // Client: "Is it done yet?" Tech: "No, not yet. There were complications." Client: "You said 30mins!!!" Tech: "Technically it's only been 28mins, but there were COMPLICATIONS. I'll get it fixed as fast as I can, 15 more mins." // 7 minutes later // Tech: "Yeeeeeaaahhh... better say 2h on that." Client: "wut?" Tech: "This system isn't the same as the test environment we deployed on, we've uncovered an issue that may cause instability in the server under certain conditions." Client: "But it might not happen?" Tech: "Maybe... but if it does, you'll have every one effected and all the forum trolls kicking up a massive stink." Client: "They already are!" Tech: "Yeah, but we told them there would be down time, not like it is totally unexpected." Client: "I guess..." Tech: "Besides, if we don't do it now, it's either midnight calls outs, triple time and another down time. Or just another downtime. There is no third option." Client: "I'll go post..." I remember a software dev talking about making estimates for the clients, saying something along the line of "Think of how much time it would take you to do it. Triple that number. Now double it for good measure. You'll be expensive, but it'll be done within that time frame... probably." CCP just needs to add a "servers will be up between 15:00 and 19:00", or even just add a "baring any ill events". But hey, they're optimistic. :) ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:37:00 - [1775] Originally by: Chui Menta I just realized I've been staring at the login screen with my mouth open for 5 minutes. Awesome. lmao XD
Wallis Jenkins	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:37:00 - [1776] Hope no more damn extentions...
digitalminor	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:37:00 - [1777] we can dance we can dance
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:37:00 - [1778] Originally by: Akashimuoyo Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. ROFL... I played their MMO from vanilla to Cata, Blizzard has a very long history of hextuple-extended downtimes... usually coming right after they opened the servers too fast after one of their buggy patches and corrupted a few thousand character profiles. By comparison CCP is a responsible, upstanding IT company... lol LOL Plus they have epic fail at every update
Epyx Nykee Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:37:00 - [1779] *********************************************************** OMG HISTORY LESSON FROM EVE!!!!! ***********************************************************
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1780] Edited by: Crunchmeister on 06/04/2011 18:38:47 Originally by: eddaking actully this would be good for the eve economy as it means that there will be less isk being introduced into the game via plex...but then again by this logic it is also good for lots of ships to be blown up... I think you got that backwards... I see it more like this... New alliances that recently set up in 0.0 with high true sec space and relied on tax income from high end anomaly ratting will all of a sudden find out that they can no longer afford to pay their sov fees (and rent if applicable) from ratting. Members of said corps who lose their ships in PvP (usually from being ganked by neuts) will not be able to replace said ships from the new lowered ratting income. So they will dump reel money into PLEX (remember, PLEX makes 15% more real money going to CCP than just a straight account renewal, regardless of its isk value in-game) because they're going to try really hard to not have all their hard work and hefty, non-recoupable investment into their system go to waste. Eventually, they will fail and more than likely return to Empire. In the end, this will devalue PLEX as there will be more and more in circulation. What gets you 360-ish million today may only cost you 300M in a couple of month. But that's good business for CCP. That means that people will have to buy MORE plex to be able to maintain their current standard of play. The actual isk value of plex is meaningless as long as people are buying them instead of paying for their subs straight out. Devaluation of PLEX is good for CCPs business. In the end, I'm pretty convinced this is what it's about. It's not good for Eve's economy, at least for the newer players, but is GREAT for the large power blocks and for CCP's income. Personally, this doesn't affect me much as I don't rely on ratting as my source income, and the system I live in is in the rigth band to not be affected by these changes anyway. It just means that in the long term, I'll be able to get my alt subs paid off with less ISK when I need to PLEX them. On a personal level, I benefit from the changes in terms of real life money NOT spent on paying my subs. However, when thinking about the game as a whole, I think it's a horrible idea and a money grab by CCP.

Seras Victoria Egivand	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1781] Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. I had to laugh at that..... IF you think that you have never ever played wow lol.
IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1782] We can dance, everybody's taking a chance! -Humms.- La la de da da la da...
Abbador	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1783] Squirrel !!!
Ekdal Fenrisdur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1784] Look at my horse My horse is amazing Give it a lick Mmm - it tastes just like raisins Have a stroke of its mane It turns into a plane And then it turns back again When you tug on its winkie Eww that's dirty Do you think so? Well I better not show you where The lemonade is made Sweet lemonade Mmm - sweet lemonade Sweet lemonade Yeah sweet lemonade
Rokoz	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1785] LOUD NOISES
Keleth AlThul	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1786] Originally by: Radakos if i had some dank, i would be just fine playing xbox360..... i so second that man im out also lol
Chung Weng	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1787] Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. wow runs on an individual servers splitting players into "realms" and making on the fly updates easy, eve is running on a supercomputer server shard which enables all players of the game to interact in the same universe, making on the fly changes difficult if not impossible.
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1788] Edited by: Karia Sur on 06/04/2011 18:39:22 blurgh, give in
Rikhturh	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1789] Originally by: Strava Katho I dont want to complain.... But!. Dont be so optemistic, after 8 years someone shuld have leanrd that expansions never get deployed as planned. Set more time to begin with, then players get realy happy when servers are upp erlier then planned. And every one wuld be telling that CCP is gods and it always works.... Dont need a mega minde to figure that out. In my own honest opinion, just because of the person I am, I just think the message you see when you try to log in 'Downtime will be extended to[insert unrealistically short timespan here]' should say something like this 'Hey Bros and Babes, Lords and Ladies, Ladies and Gents, We are deploying the patch,much gladness to be had soon, but we aren't clairvoyant and we are going to do a good job and that takes as long as it takes, hang in there'
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1790] latest ccp explanation for this expanded downtime: Because of the recent Fukushima meltdown our servers are experiencing major difficulties.

Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1791] Originally by: CopperNail WAHWAHWAH I am a petulant child with an overly developed sense of entitlement wah wah wah. You really think anyone is going to unsubscribe over this? Set the example. You said earlier that you wanted compensation in order to stop you from unsubscribing, so put up or shut up. I don't see anything about compensation for the players, so I guess you'll just have to unsubscribe. You would have to be a gigantic flopping ****** in order to pay ccp money if they so grievously offend you. At this point I'm rooting for the downtime solely because it bothers you more than me. Watching you parade about with your limp, flaccid, impotent nerd rage brings me more entertainment value that the actual game does.
Lord OfThe Morning	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1792] Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. You are joking, right???
Ezri Callari	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:38:00 - [1793] Originally by: Chui Menta I just realized I've been staring at the login screen with my mouth open for 5 minutes. Awesome. I'm waiting for it to either say Status: Online or extended downtime until 20:00 UTC
Tuf'kon	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1794] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaxmRAMWW6I
AVDutch	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1795] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel client patched (~700mb) now it's time for 'Repairing the EVE Online Client' (1.02GB) :] as always gj ccp o7 Damn, I had the same problem. Mine was worse tho, cos total is 1.7gb of stuff and I only have 1.4gb of bandwith left (stupid university network has a 10gb/certain timeunit max download). This means no eve for me till I don't know when. AARGH.
Thorana Janiette	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1796] Originally by: Chuckles Beeshaw Originally by: Thorana Janiette Originally by: Chuckles Beeshaw Originally by: Thue Shadow waiting for the ccp is like shaveing your balls, painfull and annoying and you suffer for ages afterwoods somebody doesnt know how to shave their balls If you¦re 50kg overweight like me, then trust me it hurts like hell being overweight has nothing to do with it.. going over the same spot more than once will though. also i never thought i'd be discussing pubic hair shaving on the eve forums. cool If you got a 50kg belly in front of you, and you have to bend over it to see whats actually happening, you soon get short of breath. And when you¦re short of breath mistakes might happen, like spasmic shaving of the hairy area, and that can inflict pain...a lot of it too
Kalpel Caldari United Systems of the Allegiance Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1797] Originally by: Chui Menta I just realized I've been staring at the login screen with my mouth open for 5 minutes. Awesome.
Ialyen	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1798] Seriously people. I'll tell you what, march on the CCP Headquarters and demand your 50 cents back for the 12 hours you didn't get to play! Yeah! Fight the power! And 750MB update? Seriously? Who cares? I spent less than 10 minutes downloading it. Oh no, I'm missing out on less than 24 hours of Eve because they are IMPROVING MY GAME EXPERIENCE. Oh wait, I pay 15 dollars a month. a MONTH. 50 cents a day on average, so 12 hours actually equals about 25 cents. Stop crying, your world isn't going to end. You people are worse than my 2 year old nephew.
MOUNT EVEREST	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1799] Management apologizes for the delay. Those responsible for the estimated downtime estimate have been sacked. A new team has been put in place, consisting of Ralph the Wonder Llama and a team of highly trained Peruvian Dancing Alpacas.
Xin Mae D'Estal	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1800] And why did they "fix" the no bra bug? That's not fixing. Fixing implies progress. Really they just needed to add some sexy thongs or something. Oh, and keep on posting, guys! We only have to add another 30 or so pages of griefing and we will have more pages of complaints than there were words in the original post.

Cable Udan Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1801] Sure is Justin Timberlake in here with all the crying going on.
Chui Menta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1802] Originally by: Ezri Callari Originally by: Chui Menta I just realized I've been staring at the login screen with my mouth open for 5 minutes. Awesome. extended downtime until 20:00 UTC Me thinks.
StuRyan	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1803] /me wonders if those ships on start up that dock in the mutha and then undock..... do they ever reach destination.
Lex Avril	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1804] ok. now it's enough! here is the plan to let CCP suffer like we all do: when we will be able to login again: NOBODY DOES, we just let wait CCP as long as they let us wait. I'm sure, that will hurt their butts badly, muahahaha
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1805] Originally by: Seras Victoria Egivand Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. I had to laugh at that..... IF you think that you have never ever played wow lol. LoL , just proves blizzard pays 12yo's to spam other games that there game is better
Omen Talozan Gallente Lunar Asylum	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:39:00 - [1806] why tell us its done 1500 when its 6+ hours late? why not just tell us its done 2100? why disappoint instead of surprise? i have np with patch-day and the aftermath... but SIX FREAKING HOURS?! gimme a break and plan your stuff properly. one would think that you after 8 years would have mastered it but no. Be Free. Be Modern. Be Rish. Be Miner! Join Kung Corp today.
auropobia	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:40:00 - [1807] Originally by: Tuf'kon Badger.. badger.. badger.. badger.. mushroom.. badger.. badger Good To see another person who likes http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/
gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:40:00 - [1808] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail WAHWAHWAH I am a petulant child with an overly developed sense of entitlement wah wah wah. You really think anyone is going to unsubscribe over this? Set the example. You said earlier that you wanted compensation in order to stop you from unsubscribing, so put up or shut up. I don't see anything about compensation for the players, so I guess you'll just have to unsubscribe. You would have to be a gigantic flopping ****** in order to pay ccp money if they so grievously offend you. At this point I'm rooting for the downtime solely because it bothers you more than me. Watching you parade about with your limp, flaccid, impotent nerd rage brings me more entertainment value that the actual game does. Couldnt have said it better!
Marc W2048 Clan 86 Antesignani Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:40:00 - [1809] Edited by: Marc W2048 on 06/04/2011 18:40:21 Originally by: Commander Ogir This is how they shut down everything... TV Shows, candy, games... First they announce they will return in x hours/days... then you wait. Then the time has come and they postpone... and postpone... postpone. DAMNIT! THIS ISN'T EVE NUKEM! Of course it's not Eve Nukem, if it was it would be 2020 or 2021 before they released a screen shot and told you it's due for release "soon"
Lemming Lass Minmatar Lemmings Online	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:40:00 - [1810] The bitter tears of impatient Eve babies are DELICIOUS!

Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:40:00 - [1811] I just hope CCp dont read most crap around here and just focus they work at fixing things. I know what they are goin trough, i hate when you things are ready to deploy after test and once its life you still discover that there is some issue with. Go Go Go CCP you wil fix it!! All hail CCP!!! paying since the begining and still do ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
Mamba Lev BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:40:00 - [1812] Originally by: Melkor Valor To all those whining about increasing numbers of patches and updates and extended downtimes. Grow up ffs More patches and updates means CCP are fixing more problems, bringing new features and making an already awesome game/hobby even better for those that enjoy it and accelerating the pace which they are doing it. Considering the amount of time it takes to deploy these fixes and the minute amount of downtime experienced and relate this to the years of game play already done by most of you who are whining about patches/downtime.I think you have your perspective a little skewed. Good job CCP, keep up the good work. I always really enjoy the updates and the extra stuff they bring \o/ They don't do a good job each patch brings a plethora of new problems an extended DT in the future to fix more of their bugs. Originally by: Iella Tesla Originally by: Mamba Lev Stuff I'm guessing you play about as much as me, which is basically all the time, the only way for us to do this is because they did a good job in making the game, period. So I say thank you and good job, because while I don't work for CCP I do know what it's like to get chewed out for doing our job right by people who don't understand it. Head of QA for a major game company for 3 years i do know what i am talking about, they then got into bed the with the game ruiners EA and i told them to stick it.
SSN 609 Amarr The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:40:00 - [1813] Ever have that person always asking if your done yet when your working on a project? This thread is an example of that. Let them do their work first. Then say something. And they can't have someone else say something other then "We are working on it." My only complaint would be if the ends don't justify the means. So all this new hardware and patch better not mess the system up so bad no one can play, and fleet fights are even more impossible then they already are.
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1814] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail WAHWAHWAH I am a petulant child with an overly developed sense of entitlement wah wah wah. You really think anyone is going to unsubscribe over this? Set the example. You said earlier that you wanted compensation in order to stop you from unsubscribing, so put up or shut up. I don't see anything about compensation for the players, so I guess you'll just have to unsubscribe. You would have to be a gigantic flopping ****** in order to pay ccp money if they so grievously offend you. At this point I'm rooting for the downtime solely because it bothers you more than me. Watching you parade about with your limp, flaccid, impotent nerd rage brings me more entertainment value that the actual game does. WTF are you still here you dumb arse go find a d*ck and shoke on it or do I need to get a restraining order you pervert
digital anthrax Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1815] Originally by: Ekdal Fenrisdur Look at my horse My horse is amazing Give it a lick Mmm - it tastes just like raisins Have a stroke of its mane It turns into a plane And then it turns back again When you tug on its winkie Eww that's dirty Do you think so? Well I better not show you where The lemonade is made Sweet lemonade Mmm - sweet lemonade Sweet lemonade Yeah sweet lemonade I love you have by babies
Crazy Craven Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1816] I pass on the crackers n wine till u get dressed decent thank you Sorry but us new pilots are about scaring the old men away with our shiny chests! -- if (Troll == "idiot") return "Troll is an Idiot"; else if (Troll != "idiot") return "Troll is still an idiot"; --
Anal Antichrist	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1817] Edited by: Anal Antichrist on 06/04/2011 18:41:25 Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail WAHWAHWAH I am a petulant child with an overly developed sense of entitlement wah wah wah. You really think anyone is going to unsubscribe over this? Set the example. You said earlier that you wanted compensation in order to stop you from unsubscribing, so put up or shut up. I don't see anything about compensation for the players, so I guess you'll just have to unsubscribe. You would have to be a gigantic flopping ****** in order to pay ccp money if they so grievously offend you. uOu sir are a winner You sir, +10 internets to you, congratulations At this point I'm rooting for the downtime solely because it bothers you more than me. Watching you parade about with your limp, flaccid, impotent nerd rage brings me more entertainment value that the actual game does.
Kalpel Caldari United Systems of the Allegiance Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1818] Originally by: Tuf'kon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaxmRAMWW6I FIXED
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1819] Originally by: Countess DeMoNey Well I'm sure you know that PLEX are generated when a player BUYS them from CCP, so the "free" subscriptions from buying plexes in game are still paid for in real cash... its just that those players are giving the other player isk to pay real money for their account. This benefits CCP by eliminating the need for third party ISK sellers that so badly plague other games like world of warcraft. Some people have more limited time on the game, or have enough money that it is worth it to buy isk from EVE rather than go spend hours mining or whatever, giving them the ability to get what they want when they want it, while others, like myself, that have plenty of time in game (and the know how) to generate large amounts of isk but are limited in RL cash, can continue to play. I'ts a matter of supply and demand. Too many people buying plexes with cash and the plex price goes down. Too many people relying on plexes to keep their accounts up, the market value of plex's goes up. CCP is not going to go broke by having plexes cuz one way or another, every account/month is paid for by someone. Currently PLEX prices have been going up, indicating less people buying them, or more people using them. The system balances itself, and I'm personally glad this system exists. I concur. We want back plex for 300m isk! This is good we can prepay our accounts for 2 years to wait such phenomenons like sanctums out. -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1820] 61 pages? LOL That is just so funny. Eve forum posters = best posters

Silath Silverpine	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1821] Originally by: Strava Katho Originally by: Tuf'kon Badger.. badger.. badger.. badger.. mushroom.. badger.. badger SNAAAAAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Broootthhherrrr -Serious face, standing dramatically on giant robot.-
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:41:00 - [1822] Originally by: Lex Avril ok. now it's enough! here is the plan to let CCP suffer like we all do: when we will be able to login again: NOBODY DOES, we just let wait CCP as long as they let us wait. I'm sure, that will hurt their butts badly, muahahaha NOPE , they already got your money so if you don't log in they don't care
Xin Mae D'Estal	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:42:00 - [1823] Make that 24 pages.... My sister was bit by a moose once. No, seriously. She was carving her initials into the side of the moose with an interspacial toothbrush....
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:42:00 - [1824] Originally by: Xin Mae D'Estal Really they just needed to add some sexy thongs or something. I dunno, but my female alt looks pretty hot in her skimpy little snapper wrapper.
Hydraka	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:42:00 - [1825] Originally by: Gnulpie 61 pages? LOL That is just so funny. Eve forum posters = best posters Confirming we're the best forum posters. EVE ftw.
Victor Sigmund Balducci	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:42:00 - [1826] Gnulpie: QFT!
StuRyan	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:42:00 - [1827] DID anyone see that?
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:42:00 - [1828] Originally by: Cyberus I just hope CCp dont read most crap around here and just focus they work at fixing things. I know what they are goin trough, i hate when you things are ready to deploy after test and once its life you still discover that there is some issue with. Go Go Go CCP you wil fix it!! All hail CCP!!! paying since the begining and still do will do the same for sure - because i love this game, but it still sucks a little bit ;)
Ekdal Fenrisdur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:42:00 - [1829] Get on my horse I'll take you round the universe And all the other places too I think you'll find that the universe pretty much covers everything Shut up woman get on my horse
Stringoula Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:42:00 - [1830] Originally by: SaltyandSweet Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. go play wow then ***got. im i talking to a 12 years old ppl? I didnt say play wow, im talking about the update service. So STFU and ill keep f@cking your @ss

CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1831] Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail WAHWAHWAH I am a petulant child with an overly developed sense of entitlement wah wah wah. You really think anyone is going to unsubscribe over this? Set the example. You said earlier that you wanted compensation in order to stop you from unsubscribing, so put up or shut up. I don't see anything about compensation for the players, so I guess you'll just have to unsubscribe. You would have to be a gigantic flopping ****** in order to pay ccp money if they so grievously offend you. At this point I'm rooting for the downtime solely because it bothers you more than me. Watching you parade about with your limp, flaccid, impotent nerd rage brings me more entertainment value that the actual game does. Couldnt have said it better! Obvious alt is obvious.. Loooozer
Commander Ogir	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1832] Originally by: Marc W2048 Edited by: Marc W2048 on 06/04/2011 18:40:21 Originally by: Commander Ogir This is how they shut down everything... TV Shows, candy, games... First they announce they will return in x hours/days... then you wait. Then the time has come and they postpone... and postpone... postpone. DAMNIT! THIS ISN'T EVE NUKEM! Of course it's not Eve Nukem, if it was it would be 2020 or 2021 before they released a screen shot and told you it's due for release "soon" No, screens were there pretty early on... But about this "soon" thing: I am currently expecting they change the server online Status to: soon...
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1833] ah well, time to watch the footie
DoPlanet	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1834] eve patch fail. nothing new. Common guys, deployments should have a panic button that you use when **** like this happends, then rethink it while old eve is up.
Seras Victoria Egivand	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1835] The Extended downtime was for all the futurerama aqua teen hunger force family guy episodes they have to add to all the station tv's for station view :P They figured might as well add it now.
Golakka	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1836] Special notice from CCP Servers will be up soonÖ
Josurr	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1837] Originally by: Nistrodin Does anyone know what storage CCP uses? Is it EMC? Hitachi? Netapp? HP? I work for one of the above and am just curious. They use the biggestfastest IBM blade center they can get. What are best: http://live1.completegamer.net:8020 http://live1.completegamer.net:8026
Eve Alabell	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1838] Originally by: Enkill Eridos Originally by: Eve Alabell Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: Eve Alabell hm ^^ games like eve and wow are supporting the loss of social skills ;)alß i will blow everything up... blabla xD but did these alliances realy shot on everything that isnt in his ranks? would be a bit radical? wouldnt it be? lol Yeah, it's a pretty common syndrome in MMOs. You get some regular people that just like to play them for fun and for the social challenge they present. They're the ones that just have fun, go with the flow, and will easily laugh off a Titan loss as long as they had fun in the fight. Then you have the group of people (usually 30+ year old, unemployed, pasty-face basement dwellers living with their mom) who use them as a tool to get revenge on "society" for all the daily wedgies they received through high school for being such socially-challenged nerds. then the devs should make it a bit harder for the big alliances with the mass of pseudo-"progamers". dont know how... eventually embargos from some of the empires, or wars with them. dont think that the gallente federation for example like it to see that a company is blowing their citizen into pieces :D I am not apart of a big alliance, I am just in an active defense force..not all of us are really pirates..The only problem is that you have to convince us you are not a threat to where we live? In a game where a lot of the pvp type eve trailers deal with choice and destabilizing areas..Some of us want to actually live in systems we can call our own. From what I understand the whole NRDSI alliances and corporations did not last long because of the destabilization aspect. EVE is like three games in one, the social aspects in each region has a life of it's own. Where NPC's rule there's some cool stuff to do, but what made EVE actually appeal to me is owning a system, actually living in a system that a group of players try and keep. You build a community because you like neighbors..In a competitive game why would you want to live next door to some douchebags? completely agree with you :) so you think, if i write with some alliances or guilds or however they call themself - they wouldnt attack me? hmm if that helps... i wouldnt bet somethng on it xDD
Xiang Jiao	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1839] Honey Badger don't care. Honey Badger don't give a sh*it.
Dark Tobby	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1840] Originally by: Crunchmeister Edited by: Crunchmeister on 06/04/2011 18:38:47 Originally by: eddaking actully this would be good for the eve economy as it means that there will be less isk being introduced into the game via plex...but then again by this logic it is also good for lots of ships to be blown up... I think you got that backwards... I see it more like this... New alliances that recently set up in 0.0 with high true sec space and relied on tax income from high end anomaly ratting will all of a sudden find out that they can no longer afford to pay their sov fees (and rent if applicable) from ratting. Members of said corps who lose their ships in PvP (usually from being ganked by neuts) will not be able to replace said ships from the new lowered ratting income. So they will dump reel money into PLEX (remember, PLEX makes 15% more real money going to CCP than just a straight account renewal, regardless of its isk value in-game) because they're going to try really hard to not have all their hard work and hefty, non-recoupable investment into their system go to waste. Eventually, they will fail and more than likely return to Empire. In the end, this will devalue PLEX as there will be more and more in circulation. What gets you 360-ish million today may only cost you 300M in a couple of month. But that's good business for CCP. That means that people will have to buy MORE plex to be able to maintain their current standard of play. The actual isk value of plex is meaningless as long as people are buying them instead of paying for their subs straight out. Devaluation of PLEX is good for CCPs business. In the end, I'm pretty convinced this is what it's about. It's not good for Eve's economy, at least for the newer players, but is GREAT for the large power blocks and for CCP's income. Personally, this doesn't affect me much as I don't rely on ratting as my source income, and the system I live in is in the rigth band to not be affected by these changes anyway. It just means that in the long term, I'll be able to get my alt subs paid off with less ISK when I need to PLEX them. On a personal level, I benefit from the changes in terms of real life money NOT spent on paying my subs. However, when thinking about the game as a whole, I think it's a horrible idea and a money grab by CCP. Thank you for sharing you insight. A very good read I must say I agree with your prediction and unfortunaly I am one of those who rely on ratting.

Baron Munchousen	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1841] Originally by: TEXHAD3OP Olympia Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Glacier Gal anyone know whats going on...I havent seen an update and the patch obviously didnt work A russian terrorist group launched several nukes towards the us from northern russia, but due to outdated Russian Tech, the nukes crashed and detonated on the way, wiping out Iceland. Don't tought Russia :))) LOLLOLOLOL. The Americans and Russians are making each other cry again. In Europe, we like to look in the eye of our foe before we hurt them. I do understand your nukes. Press a button, close your eyes, and hope it all goes away.
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:43:00 - [1842] Originally by: Gnulpie 61 pages? LOL That is just so funny. Eve forum posters = best posters when i first posted after dt was suppose to be over it was at 630
star7777	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1843] once again ccp did it how long this dt will last getting really feed up whith this crap is time lost will be add time game time lots lost time and time is ISK
Roxari	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1844] 20 min left...i hope CCP will bring server up on 19:oo
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1845] Edited by: Modeaus on 06/04/2011 18:45:27 Uh oh...more launch fail. What time are they planning on being ready now? Edit: THANK YOU CCP for installing the updates on a day when I have a ton of RL stuff to do and not yesterday when I had a full day off! :)
eddaking Gallente Mining Platoon Lemming Devision Barbarian Reformation Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1846] Originally by: Shiana Soltek "Downtime has been extended on Wednesday April 6, 2011 to 19:00 UTC for the deployment of Incursion 1.4. More details are available here." well lets see how close to 1900 that make it. And still, this forum thread has yet to be updated with ANY info from the devs on the progress and status of the patch, unlike last time when they gave us hourly or :30 minute updates on the progress. Come on ccp, wake up, learn from last expansion's success and start keeping your subscribers informed on how things are going, and why it is taking so long. It worked last time, ppl were happy, and things went smoother, why are you being brainless twits this time and not keeping us informed? would you prefer it if they were on here talk with us or working on fixing the problem... as most of us would prefer the latter
Blonda Mea Muppet Ninja's	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1847] Originally by: Stringoula Originally by: SaltyandSweet Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. go play wow then ***got. im i talking to a 12 years old ppl? I didnt say play wow, im talking about the update service. So STFU and ill keep f@cking your @ss hemad
disasteur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1848] Originally by: Dana Kait Originally by: disasteur DT extended to 19:00 wtf? Devs are not Gods, server equipment isnt magical mysterious artifacts, deal with it i dont deal with it, extending is normal i know (atleast for eve it is) but i dont need you to tell me to deal with it
Victor Sigmund Balducci	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1849] Originally by: StuRyan DID anyone see that? See what? WHAT?! TELL ME!!! TEL ME NOW!! NOW! Will you tell me in 1 hour? It's been an hour now, ah okay so will you tell me in 2 hours?
StuRyan	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1850] /me thinks CCP Cloaked up and went AFK.

gintaru	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:44:00 - [1851] Originally by: CopperNail Originally by: gintaru Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail WAHWAHWAH I am a petulant child with an overly developed sense of entitlement wah wah wah. You really think anyone is going to unsubscribe over this? Set the example. You said earlier that you wanted compensation in order to stop you from unsubscribing, so put up or shut up. I don't see anything about compensation for the players, so I guess you'll just have to unsubscribe. You would have to be a gigantic flopping ****** in order to pay ccp money if they so grievously offend you. At this point I'm rooting for the downtime solely because it bothers you more than me. Watching you parade about with your limp, flaccid, impotent nerd rage brings me more entertainment value that the actual game does. Couldnt have said it better! Obvious alt is obvious.. Loooozer +1 if you can say that again AND make sense at the same time
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:45:00 - [1852] Originally by: StuRyan /me thinks CCP Cloaked up and went AFK. The logs show nothing.
Strava Katho	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:45:00 - [1853] Originally by: Rikhturh Originally by: Strava Katho I dont want to complain.... But!. Dont be so optemistic, after 8 years someone shuld have leanrd that expansions never get deployed as planned. Set more time to begin with, then players get realy happy when servers are upp erlier then planned. And every one wuld be telling that CCP is gods and it always works.... Dont need a mega minde to figure that out. In my own honest opinion, just because of the person I am, I just think the message you see when you try to log in 'Downtime will be extended to[insert unrealistically short timespan here]' should say something like this 'Hey Bros and Babes, Lords and Ladies, Ladies and Gents, We are deploying the patch,much gladness to be had soon, but we aren't clairvoyant and we are going to do a good job and that takes as long as it takes, hang in there' Wuld not work.... the ppl playing this game want a deadline... so if it says from the begining DT extended to 23:59. I dont need to sitt and wait to log in. I can go do other stuff.... in the nasty but unavoidible RL. I think not gicing a deadline wuld get ppl even more ****ed.
Iella Tesla	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:45:00 - [1854] Originally by: Mamba Lev Originally by: Melkor Valor more stuff Good job CCP, keep up the good work. I always really enjoy the updates and the extra stuff they bring \o/ They don't do a good job each patch brings a plethora of new problems an extended DT in the future to fix more of their bugs. Originally by: Iella Tesla Originally by: Mamba Lev Stuff I'm guessing you play about as much as me, which is basically all the time, the only way for us to do this is because they did a good job in making the game, period. So I say thank you and good job, because while I don't work for CCP I do know what it's like to get chewed out for doing our job right by people who don't understand it. Head of QA for a major game company for 3 years i do know what i am talking about, they then got into bed the with the game ruiners EA and i told them to stick it. If you know what it's like, stop whining so much, though I'm sure it feels nice to be able to be all the people that most likely annoyed you at your job, but don't you feel a little bit like a sell out?
Juan Sezole Taishi Combine Saints Amongst Sinners	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:45:00 - [1855] This whole thread just proves we are addicts. And after 6 years of incompetence, failures and downright lies why do I still expect CCP to keep to its schedule?
Ekdal Fenrisdur	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:45:00 - [1856] YEah. I got in.
Saban Saulic	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:45:00 - [1857] U are bunch of junkies :) me to :) http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Amazing+Horse/
smoking gun81	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:45:00 - [1858] Originally by: caldari windstar I do not recall anyone even asking for all these all too often "updates" they are just forced on us and if you go look at most of what they are supposedly fixing, not much in them ACTUALLY benefit any of us Originally by: smoking gun81 Originally by: CopperNail Its called a window of opportunity to ask for something when its actualy appropriate to do so.. You either do so like I have done or you don't thats your choice but how can anyone object to people asking for a refund for lost time? Unless you're on their payroll or trying to suck up maybe.. No apologies ccp, give us isk or sp wwaahhh I cant play wwaahhh I want free stuff wwaahhh I want more free stuff The expansions are already free maybe ccp should start making you pay for them eehh. put your i want attitude away and brake out the deal with it one that is unless you unsubed from it. Did You as a single person may not have asked but the community of eve has asked via CSM and so on so go direct any questions to them.
WisdomPanda Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:45:00 - [1859] +1 panda in game. ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.
Chuckles Beeshaw	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1860] server is up dawgs

Nistrodin	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1861] Originally by: Josurr Originally by: Nistrodin Does anyone know what storage CCP uses? Is it EMC? Hitachi? Netapp? HP? I work for one of the above and am just curious. They use the biggestfastest IBM blade center they can get. What are best: http://live1.completegamer.net:8020 http://live1.completegamer.net:8026 Servers are NOT storage. Storage is hard drives, and LOTS of them working in tandem.
Gank'aho	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1862] ITS ONLINE!!!!
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1863] Originally by: Modeaus Uh oh...more launch fail. What time are they planning on being ready now? Even if it take 1 hour more i dont care so long they insure that there will be no emergency shutdowns every hour ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
aquatac	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1864] ONLINE !!!!
Paindick McAngerfist	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1865] Originally by: CopperNail WTF are you still here you dumb arse go find a d*ck and shoke on it or do I need to get a restraining order you pervert I'm the pervert? You seem to be the one making things sexual. I used the words 'limp', 'flaccid' and 'impotent' but surely even someone as dim as you can understand that words can be used many different ways, right? If you see something sexual about my post I can't help that your brain works that way.
Tioden Amatre Gallente Sunshine Krew Mordus Angels	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1866] server back up !!
Valmora Jung	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1867] Originally by: Blonda Mea Originally by: Stringoula Originally by: SaltyandSweet Originally by: Stringoula Blizzard updates wow ''on the fly'' without taking down the server. You should start thinking about it. Or just stay in schedule. go play wow then ***got. im i talking to a 12 years old ppl? I didnt say play wow, im talking about the update service. So STFU and ill keep f@cking your @ss hemad WOW 12yo's are touchy these days
Ganks Alot	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1868] Originally by: Radakos you can dance if you want to , you can leave your friends behind... Cause your friends don't dance And if they don't dance Well they're no friends of mine!
Garreth Vlox Minmatar Hysterically Unforgiving	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1869] Edited by: Garreth Vlox on 06/04/2011 18:48:40 Edited by: Garreth Vlox on 06/04/2011 18:47:34 Originally by: Lev Aeris Originally by: XFluke Once more, CCP doesn't listen to its community... WE ARE WHO PAID FOR THIS GAME... Sad, really sad... i dont want a great looking game.. i want a fun game. LAG is so bad in major fleet battles that you cant even load grid... What about that??? ALL you care is nerfing the good and fun things on eve and not fixing the REAL issues. I'm usually the first one to ball bust over lag, but they have made huge leaps and bounds over the last week. The new hardware would likely be a key part of this. Had a 500 man fight 2 nights ago, it was completely lag free, and I even had turret effects turned on. As far as the over zealous use of nerf bats... I concur. ^^ this, put the nerf bat down and step away from the server. EDIT* omg only 1 DT extension?
Darteis Elosia Gallente PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G. DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1870] SERVERS ARE UPPPPP!P!P!P!P

LaCommi	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1871] It's up :D
Xin Mae D'Estal	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1872] Originally by: Cyberus I just hope CCp dont read most crap around here and just focus they work at fixing things. I know what they are goin trough, i hate when you things are ready to deploy after test and once its life you still discover that there is some issue with. Go Go Go CCP you wil fix it!! All hail CCP!!! paying since the begining and still do Personally, I think the CCP guys/gals are sitting back laughing their asses off reading this thread, and placing bets on how long it will get.
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1873] In and recustomising :) ty CCP.
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1874] insert haleluja here
Rain Shadowz	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1875] Oooh, Servers are down. Maybe there will be some sparkly ore left when US players login.
Transius Porta	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1876] amagawd! i'm on!
Dhoom Hope	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1877] SERVER UP, BUCKLE UP PEOPLE...
StuRyan	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1878] Originally by: Victor Sigmund Balducci Originally by: StuRyan DID anyone see that? See what? WHAT?! TELL ME!!! TEL ME NOW!! NOW! Will you tell me in 1 hour? It's been an hour now, ah okay so will you tell me in 2 hours? The invisible man?
Crazy Craven Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1879] Come on now you "Dun Goofed" complaining? While everyone is sitting here refreshing eve.exe and this forum thread CCP are crying with laughter because all you dummies are sitting on the now "old" forums Did you seriously just right click and try open in a new tab/window? Oh my goodness... -- if (Troll == "idiot") return "Troll is an Idiot"; else if (Troll != "idiot") return "Troll is still an idiot"; --
Wallis Jenkins	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1880] Originally by: Golakka Special notice from CCP Servers will be up soonÖ Yeah right.. Sounds pretty familiar. Haven't we heard it like.. a hundred times already??

viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1881] you still stink like this forum does
Talos Kochab	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:47:00 - [1882] server is up and running now
eddaking Gallente Mining Platoon Lemming Devision Barbarian Reformation Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:48:00 - [1883] ITS UP AGAIN!!! so stop winging and get to work
Spacetaste	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:48:00 - [1884] Edited by: Spacetaste on 06/04/2011 18:50:29 Edited by: Spacetaste on 06/04/2011 18:48:48 Here is what you have to look forward to once you get to log inn! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tyga07OW54
Cyberus Caldari Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:48:00 - [1885] This topic officeoly closed lol! ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout
Yu Kohiro	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:48:00 - [1886] I think everyone who posts should get a random useless item in game. A good one would be to make "Dark Side Cookies" =P
Jackulator	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:48:00 - [1887] Originally by: Nistrodin Does anyone know what storage CCP uses? Is it EMC? Hitachi? Netapp? HP? I work for one of the above and am just curious. Considering they are using IBM Bladecenters, i'd guess probably IBM DS5xxx
Horrendous Mauler	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:48:00 - [1888] In Game.....Adding Scars to Char in station.
Zey Nadar Gallente Unknown Soldiers Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:48:00 - [1889] Server is up.. :P
Astalia Black	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:48:00 - [1890] The particulars of the game are a side issue. What bothers me is that this is a game that is paid for time and the service is not being delivered Why don't CCP simple compensate by an hourly rate based on the average plex proce in game currently when this downtime happens per hour downtime. At least there is recognition of this critical aspect that REAL cash is being paid to play this game and the players are respected for this as customers.

Enormus1	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:49:00 - [1891] WTFudge I get the download finished and now cant enter game ,,Yall failed CCP
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:49:00 - [1892] Critical, epical and penible fail. And really enough for one day. CCP, i want to work for you. Want to do iressponsable things, want to dissapoint customers, want to do **it. Without any responsability for my actions. Pls, offer me this dreamjob.... Will try this again tomorrow, but have the feeling that' i'm gonna see just same 9 players on a non-accepting cluster.
Feather Hawk	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:49:00 - [1893] I'm so excited I ****ed myself!
Smiles Hart	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:49:00 - [1894] I can't believe im still reading these post... Oh boy, what else to do?? Hmmmmmmmm {thinking... thinking... still thinking...} Grr I got NOTHING!!
CopperNail	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:49:00 - [1895] Originally by: Pain*** McAngerfist* Originally by: CopperNail WTF are you still here you dumb arse go find a d*ck and shoke on it or do I need to get a restraining order you pervert I'm the pervert? You seem to be the one making things sexual. I used the words 'limp', 'flaccid' and 'impotent' but surely even someone as dim as you can understand that words can be used many different ways, right? If you see something sexual about my post I can't help that your brain works that way. yeah yeah whatever, look go find someone else to play with cause you're kinda bothering me with your fixation and re-quotes for the last 10pages.. Not like there isn't anyone else here you can go pick on... next I'll start reporting you for haressement ok
major bumsore	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:50:00 - [1896] BUMP
altnumber6	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:50:00 - [1897] Originally by: Enormus1 WTFudge I get the download finished and now cant enter game ,,Yall failed CCP not sure what you did wrong but im already sitting in station
Dae'Vorian	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:50:00 - [1898] server is up :)
Chung Weng	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:50:00 - [1899] Edited by: Chung Weng on 06/04/2011 18:51:17 Still waiting for chrome to finish downloading the patch... GRRRR
Horrendous Mauler	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:50:00 - [1900] Have to recreate your Char before you can customize it in station.

IreSilver	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:50:00 - [1901] Servers are up. Wee. I shall make brownies in celebration :3 Omnomnom.
Brod Fisc	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:51:00 - [1902] its time for a nap
Astalia Black	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:51:00 - [1903] The particulars of the game are a side issue. What bothers me is that this is a game that is paid for time and the service is not being delivered Why don't CCP simple compensate by an hourly rate based on the average plex price in game currently when this downtime happens per hour downtime. At least there is recognition of this critical aspect that REAL cash is being paid to play this game and the players are respected for this as customers.
Alisanos Glendower Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:51:00 - [1904] There are 28,674 pilots at the log-in, please log-in in batches of 200. I have it on good authority that mass log-in will cause the Universe to implode, resulting in extra downtime.
digital anthrax Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:51:00 - [1905] its a trap
Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:52:00 - [1906] because of python
Marc W2048 Clan 86 Antesignani Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:52:00 - [1907] Originally by: Baron Munchousen Originally by: TEXHAD3OP Olympia Originally by: Transius Porta Originally by: Glacier Gal anyone know whats going on...I havent seen an update and the patch obviously didnt work A russian terrorist group launched several nukes towards the us from northern russia, but due to outdated Russian Tech, the nukes crashed and detonated on the way, wiping out Iceland. Don't tought Russia :))) LOLLOLOLOL. The Americans and Russians are making each other cry again. In Europe, we like to look in the eye of our foe before we hurt them. I do understand your nukes. Press a button, close your eyes, and hope it all goes away. Not all of us Americans are like that, just the idiots that somehow say they were "voted" into office. I as an American am still trying to understand how anyone can call what we have a democracy. But seriously most of us Americans are not the "press a button, close your eyes" kinda people.
Smiles Hart	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:54:00 - [1908] And the post is now dead... haha.. game time
TLWE Polish Lords' Confederacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:54:00 - [1909] Quote: You will need to recreate your character through character selection before you can re-customize it. This thing does not work or something is broken... 700mb big lol -- B=g, Honor, Nar=d. Semper Fidelis. Nec Hercules Contra Plures.
trucker1020 Caldari The Lunatic Collective Corcoran State	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:54:00 - [1910] servers are up and running About time ccp but thank you and keep up the good work Now lets go kill something

eddaking Gallente Mining Platoon Lemming Devision Barbarian Reformation Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:56:00 - [1911] just thought id better say ty to ccp as obviously something went wrong and they managed to get it to work again, reasonably quickly, and seriusly, people who moan i have a message for you, its just a game...
Umbar Xadi	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:58:00 - [1912] Originally by: eddaking just thought id better say ty to ccp as obviously something went wrong and they managed to get it to work again, reasonably quickly, and seriusly, people who moan i have a message for you, its just a game... It's a game you pay for
viral insanity	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:58:00 - [1913] wow 6 hour downtime for a sign with k22 on station wall
Marc W2048 Clan 86 Antesignani Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 18:59:00 - [1914] Edited by: Marc W2048 on 06/04/2011 19:00:15 Originally by: TLWE Quote: You will need to recreate your character through character selection before you can re-customize it. This thing does not work or something is broken... 700mb big lol Same problem I got on this end, yet no option to re-customize at the character selection screen. However upon logging out and back in.... it works.
PryMary Minmatar Solar Nexus.	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:00:00 - [1915] /Last Regards, PryMary ☻♥
Seamus Odoone	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:00:00 - [1916] Yey 700MB patch and the main feature of it doesn't even work great sarcastic clap
Yulinki Atavuli	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:00:00 - [1917] A russian terrorist group launched several nukes towards the us from northern russia, but due to outdated Russian Tech, the nukes crashed and detonated on the way, wiping out Iceland. The Americans and Russians are making each other cry again. In Europe, we like to look in the eye of our foe before we hurt them. I do understand your nukes. Press a button, close your eyes, and hope it all goes away. Not all of us Americans are like that, just the idiots that somehow say they were "voted" into office. I as an American am still trying to understand how anyone can call what we have a democracy. But seriously most of us Americans are not the "press a button, close your eyes" kinda people. I'm an American and i am "that type of person" screw it nuke everywhere except for Iceland and I'll move there and play eve for the rest of my life... fellow pod pilots are also invited (minus the amarr )
Josurr	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:01:00 - [1918] Originally by: Nistrodin Originally by: Josurr Originally by: Nistrodin Does anyone know what storage CCP uses? Is it EMC? Hitachi? Netapp? HP? I work for one of the above and am just curious. They use the biggestfastest IBM blade center they can get. What are best: http://live1.completegamer.net:8020 http://live1.completegamer.net:8026 Servers are NOT storage. Storage is hard drives, and LOTS of them working in tandem. Must have been updated now those RAMSAN with hitachi disks
DoPlanet	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:01:00 - [1919] "Capsuleers no longer have to get into their un-piloted ships in order to strip the fittings. A powerful imaginary electromagnet now removes fittings remotely via the right-click menu of the ship." CCP jokes are better than skills. And the joke sucks.
Crazy 0	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:03:00 - [1920] http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Russian+Dancing+Men/ I'll just leave this right here

Baron Munchousen	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:04:00 - [1921] Edited by: Baron Munchousen on 06/04/2011 19:04:55 http://evethink.com/ SKAM!!!!!
Mistress Nadine	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:09:00 - [1922] Originally by: Major Slaphead Now this is the story all about how The Eve online servers got taken down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there Now take a moment about how I can help you with your dispair In the last few hours the alarms were raised Where you couldnt log in on you months remaining days You tried chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some 8 ball in online pool When a couple of Dev's they were up to no good Started exstending the downtime & noone understood You got all eager to fight and some got scared And said yo forget it im posting on the forums in this dispair You worked out what to post and grabbed another beer Took a shower said "fresh" and popped some zits mirror If anything I could say that this game was yeah But I thought nah, forget it, back to the angry stare. You waited up for 7 hours or 8 And I yelled to the keyboard "yo forget it till later. Looked at yourclock & it was final there To sit in your computer seat playing your carebare. This is perfect if you use the tune from "Robin hood men in tights"
Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:09:00 - [1923] when can we expect the patch to fix the bugs in this patch?
smokeydapot	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:10:00 - [1924] Awsome to all da moaners and " i want free stuff's " CCP doesnt agree with you no free SP no free isk go work for it. good job ccp a problem that the majority of the whiners didnt consider got fixed in a reasonable time.
PropShaft	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:11:00 - [1925] Why is this download so big, I don't c y. I live in South Africa and internet is not exactly cheap. 735mb For mainly a code change I don't get it. This update now cost me as much as I pay for eve for four months. I don't mind paying for eve its a grate game but this constant downloading of massive patches are killing my wallet, please distribute your patches for free with gaming magazines or something or keep your code smaller. During my 1 year eve live I got 7 fellow South Africans to play & pay eve for a few months but after the last couple of patches they 5 of them dropped the game because they cant afford to download the continues big patches that never stop, and the patches are not available in popular gaming magazines. Please we are not all millionaires, and some of us stay in countries were internet is not cheap.
Aethyreal	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:13:00 - [1926] Edited by: Aethyreal on 06/04/2011 19:13:58 Yay new character creator and we can't even use it. GG CCP All that downtime and file verification was for naught
Niukuni Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:14:00 - [1927] Edited by: Niukuni on 06/04/2011 19:14:33 I would like to know why our system lost military 5 and our industry index went down over 24% in less than 14 hours???
Glacier Gal	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:16:00 - [1928] well its up but now my screen flickers when I open eve..anyone else have that problem?
Riru Naphiel	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:16:00 - [1929] hmm, was "Pilots now have multiple default overviews to choose from: All, Drones, General, Loot, Mining, PvP, WarpTo" left out?
Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:17:00 - [1930] Originally by: Riru Naphiel hmm, was "Pilots now have multiple default overviews to choose from: All, Drones, General, Loot, Mining, PvP, WarpTo" left out? no they are there for you too choose from under the defaults, you still have to make all your tabs.

Alma Matter	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:27:00 - [1931] downloading the client (4.35 GB), verifying and instaling the file (7.78 GB) done - and finaly it worked, so far - great, isn't it!?
Helion Dhamphir	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:30:00 - [1932] Originally by: Astalia Black The particulars of the game are a side issue. What bothers me is that this is a game that is paid for time and the service is not being delivered Why don't CCP simple compensate by an hourly rate based on the average plex proce in game currently when this downtime happens per hour downtime. At least there is recognition of this critical aspect that REAL cash is being paid to play this game and the players are respected for this as customers. 1: You CAN play for free if you're not a noob :p 2: Sure it's being paid for, but they're giving you free expansions and whatnot.. I don't think you're in your right to complain about a few hours
Red McQ	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:30:00 - [1933] Originally by: smokeydapot Awsome to all da moaners and " i want free stuff's " CCP doesnt agree with you no free SP no free isk go work for it. good job ccp a problem that the majority of the whiners didnt consider got fixed in a reasonable time. We pay for a service with real cash. There is nothing unreasonable about expect recognition to be compensated for a lack of service. If you think getting faulty goods and other items in real life is fine as well (which is inferred as being acceptable by you) and you are told "tough" then it really is your own problem and your own loss. We pay for a service THEN GIVE COMPENSATION FOR LACK OF IT !
Astalia Black	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:33:00 - [1934] Edited by: Astalia Black on 06/04/2011 19:35:13 1: You CAN play for free if you're not a noob :p 2: Sure it's being paid for, but they're giving you free expansions and whatnot.. I don't think you're in your right to complain about a few hours and labelling strangers is acceptable ?
Crunchmeister Gallente Penumbra Military Industrial Complex United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:36:00 - [1935] Originally by: Red McQ We pay for a service THEN GIVE COMPENSATION FOR LACK OF IT ! Part of your subscription is also agreeing to Terms of Use / Service. If you actually read it, as with ANY other online game, you'll see that they have no guarantee of up time, and specifically mention down time, sometimes extended, as part of the service. You coughing up the money to play, or plexing your account, is agreeing to those terms. CCP owe none of us anything.
Kerr avonn Minmatar Standard By 10	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:38:00 - [1936] Edited by: Kerr avonn on 06/04/2011 19:38:20 Originally by: Red McQ We pay for a service with real cash. There is nothing unreasonable about expect recognition to be compensated for a lack of service. If you think getting faulty goods and other items in real life is fine as well (which is inferred as being acceptable by you) and you are told "tough" then it really is your own problem and your own loss. We pay for a service THEN GIVE COMPENSATION FOR LACK OF IT ! HTFU!
Red McQ	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:38:00 - [1937] Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: Red McQ We pay for a service THEN GIVE COMPENSATION FOR LACK OF IT ! Part of your subscription is also agreeing to Terms of Use / Service. If you actually read it, as with ANY other online game, you'll see that they have no guarantee of up time, and specifically mention down time, sometimes extended, as part of the service. You coughing up the money to play, or plexing your account, is agreeing to those terms. CCP owe none of us anything. True.....
Lisa Fremont	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:44:00 - [1938] Download and install took about 30 minutes. System looks great to me ... so far. Will check it out further this evening. Thanks CCP
Umbar Xadi	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:52:00 - [1939] Originally by: Red McQ Originally by: Crunchmeister Originally by: Red McQ We pay for a service THEN GIVE COMPENSATION FOR LACK OF IT ! Part of your subscription is also agreeing to Terms of Use / Service. If you actually read it, as with ANY other online game, you'll see that they have no guarantee of up time, and specifically mention down time, sometimes extended, as part of the service. You coughing up the money to play, or plexing your account, is agreeing to those terms. CCP owe none of us anything. True..... I think he means that the terms are unreasonable and can be a killjoy to an otherwise great game during these extended downtimes. Respect to the programmers working to get the upgrade up and running
Xadi Stark	Posted - 2011.04.06 19:54:00 - [1940] Originally by: PropShaft Why is this download so big, I don't c y. I live in South Africa and internet is not exactly cheap. 735mb For mainly a code change I don't get it. This update now cost me as much as I pay for eve for four months. I don't mind paying for eve its a grate game but this constant downloading of massive patches are killing my wallet, please distribute your patches for free with gaming magazines or something or keep your code smaller. During my 1 year eve live I got 7 fellow South Africans to play & pay eve for a few months but after the last couple of patches they 5 of them dropped the game because they cant afford to download the continues big patches that never stop, and the patches are not available in popular gaming magazines. Please we are not all millionaires, and some of us stay in countries were internet is not cheap. Cuz, boet, here a POA, one of you download it, and then distribute it to your friends! :) tada, problem solved, or go Uncapped Line, yea net in SA is slow, but got to work with what you have right, South Africans are awesome because they are creative!! :) GLHF


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