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CCP Guard	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:30:00 - [1] Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space.

Sarge Farris Galactic Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:32:00 - [2] You guy's did a good job by Detecting the attack, and then shutting off the network access etc :) So yeah good job all in all! No risk of the "attacker" getting any info if they can't access the network :P hugz for CCP
Valari Nala Zena Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:34:00 - [3] Is the DDoS attack still going on, because i seem to be still disconnecting like when i did at 17:00 UTC.
Creetalor Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:35:00 - [4] pats on the back for all of CCP Awesome reaction and im happy you noticed so quickly! ----------------------------------------
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:36:00 - [5] People are so mean. ~~~
Skye Aurorae	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:36:00 - [6] CCP Soundwave should have knocked on wood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcp7tZ08Hck&t=378s
Torquemada Credo	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:37:00 - [7] Normally Im critical of CCP, because generally they deserve it. In this case they did good, nice work CCP.
Saint Lazarus Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:37:00 - [8] I'm DC'in alot -_- ----------------- My EvE Comic
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:38:00 - [9] Is there a plan in place or changes being reviewed to prevent mitigate such attacks in future? Also, why can we not change our account payment details (Credit cards) until 30 days game time remains, that is ludicrious. How about not storing it at all (or opt in) and let us enter it when we want to add more game time, therefore mitigating breach risk even more.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Valari Nala Zena Is the DDoS attack still going on, because i seem to be still disconnecting like when i did at 17:00 UTC. Probably the poor hamsters getting fried by all the people logging in at the same time. Working fine for me on 2 accounts, but here around all the normal people are sleeping

Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:39:00 - [11] Originally by: Miilla Is there a plan in place or changes being reviewed to prevent mitigate such attacks in future? Also, why can we not change our account payment details (Credit cards) until 30 days game time remains, that is ludicrious. How about not storing it at all (or opt in) and let us enter it when we want to add more game time, therefore mitigating breach risk even more. I write in bold because what I have to say is MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU
Baske THE PAROXYSM	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:40:00 - [12] Originally by: Omara Otawan Originally by: Valari Nala Zena Is the DDoS attack still going on, because i seem to be still disconnecting like when i did at 17:00 UTC. Probably the poor hamsters getting fried by all the people logging in at the same time. Working fine for me on 2 accounts, but here around all the normal people are sleeping Had 14k users 5-10 mins ago. 10k 3 mins ago, 9k 1 min ago. Doesn't seem like people logging in.
Macabre Devil	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:41:00 - [13] lol wut? Sorry if I am gonna have to crab like a lot of other people, but what fun that on one of my two days off, on my birthday, this happens. Not you're fault I know, but what I am annoyed about is that the server comes back up and then I get kicked off again...trying to reset my PI so I can at least get SOME ISK. Yeesh...wonder how I can make back the ISK I lost from this fiasco...
Bonera	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:42:00 - [14] Edited by: Bonera on 14/06/2011 23:43:11 Can we get it working before patting each other on the back? lawls Emergency shutdown..shoulda seen that coming.
Shepherd Zavvy	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Macabre Devil lol wut? Sorry if I am gonna have to crab like a lot of other people, but what fun that on one of my two days off, on my birthday, this happens. Not you're fault I know, but what I am annoyed about is that the server comes back up and then I get kicked off again...trying to reset my PI so I can at least get SOME ISK. Yeesh...wonder how I can make back the ISK I lost from this fiasco... see it as a challenge, **** happens ;) happy b-day though
Ejit Amarr STD contractors	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:43:00 - [16] Edited by: Ejit on 14/06/2011 23:44:50 Is CCP going to pursue this in any way? I mean pass on any logs or whatever to the relevant authority's? I'd luv to see them hang, a la ****** Hussian style viral videos Your Joking? language filter blocks Sa_ddam!
Ai Mei Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:43:00 - [17] The problem now is everyone trying to log in at the same time. on average there is 32,000 people online at any given time. well right now all those people are trying to log in at the same time. This flood of users is almost as bad as a ddos attack. The servers are overloading with log in attempts so everyone just hold your horses and slow down. Let the servers catch up. They have had a hard day.
Hayley Sativa	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:44:00 - [18] CCP, THANK YOU FOR BEING AWESOME! /me adds 5 Bil bounty on LulzSec's head
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:44:00 - [19] Originally by: Baske Had 14k users 5-10 mins ago. 10k 3 mins ago, 9k 1 min ago. Doesn't seem like people logging in. Indeed, I spoke too soon apparently
Xaroth Brook Minmatar BIG Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Miilla Is there a plan in place or changes being reviewed to prevent mitigate such attacks in future? Also, why can we not change our account payment details (Credit cards) until 30 days game time remains, that is ludicrious. How about not storing it at all (or opt in) and let us enter it when we want to add more game time, therefore mitigating breach risk even more. seeing the last 2 have little to do with the downtime.. i'll stick to the first. if you build a system that can withstand N, you only need to bring N+1 to take it down.. the only way to securely mitigate any chance of it happening again is by making sure N is larger than what a potential threat can send.. at which point you're safe until another threat that builds a system that can send N+1 ... judging by what the rest of the internet felt from the attack, CCP's N factor is a leap higher than what I would have thought it'd be Xaroth Brook BIG www.big-eve.com

Attoy Camow Gallente Fighters Squadron Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:46:00 - [21] Emergency shutdown...
Olias Sunsoo	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:46:00 - [22] Any continuing issues or possibility of another extended downtime tonight? Lots of dropped connections.
Katrina Oniseki Caldari 0rizen 0rizen Nation	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Ai Mei The problem now is everyone trying to log in at the same time. on average there is 32,000 people online at any given time. well right now all those people are trying to log in at the same time. This flood of users is almost as bad as a ddos attack. The servers are overloading with log in attempts so everyone just hold your horses and slow down. Let the servers catch up. They have had a hard day. Don't they have a log-in queue for just such a situation?
Aruchamet Quantum Pathways	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:46:00 - [24] Thank You CCP for acting as swiftly as you did and hopefully in the future Hopefully the group who is going around attacking everyone will have theres
Valari Nala Zena Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:46:00 - [25] Originally by: Ai Mei The problem now is everyone trying to log in at the same time. on average there is 32,000 people online at any given time. well right now all those people are trying to log in at the same time. This flood of users is almost as bad as a ddos attack. The servers are overloading with log in attempts so everyone just hold your horses and slow down. Let the servers catch up. They have had a hard day. When there is a rolling restart or whatever i don't have any problems with logging in. I don't see why it would be a problem now.
Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Fearsome Engine	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:47:00 - [26] Damn fine job guys n gals. First time in years I haven't wanted to complain about eve being down
Wiccan999 Minmatar Starwinders	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:47:00 - [27] Thanx for quick response and keeping all our data safe. <----You would come to me walking, but you WILL crawl back
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:47:00 - [28] Originally by: Xaroth Brook Originally by: Miilla Is there a plan in place or changes being reviewed to prevent mitigate such attacks in future? Also, why can we not change our account payment details (Credit cards) until 30 days game time remains, that is ludicrious. How about not storing it at all (or opt in) and let us enter it when we want to add more game time, therefore mitigating breach risk even more. seeing the last 2 have little to do with the downtime.. i'll stick to the first. if you build a system that can withstand N, you only need to bring N+1 to take it down.. the only way to securely mitigate any chance of it happening again is by making sure N is larger than what a potential threat can send.. at which point you're safe until another threat that builds a system that can send N+1 ... judging by what the rest of the internet felt from the attack, CCP's N factor is a leap higher than what I would have thought it'd be The account payment details issues is very much to do with security also, not being able to even update it to newly issued cards due to expirey dates, until 30 days or less game time is ludicious. I don't see a need to actually store the CC details at all really but sure, keep dancing around the bush on the issue by ignoring it.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:48:00 - [29] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 23:45:05 Is there a plan in place or changes being reviewed to prevent mitigate such attacks in future? CCP are going to implement a scheme where people are not allowed to use the internet if they are going to do mean things. This is well within their powers and a perfectly reasonable thing to expect of them ~~~
Zixie Draco The Queue	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:48:00 - [30] Sincerely, thank you!!! I less than 3 you guys! __________________________________________ ~"Oh bother", said Pooh as he chambered another round.~

salty Milk	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:48:00 - [31] get the csm to tell us that the emergency shutdown is actually the thing that is back in business and that we should be happy that the csm is making emergency shutdowns free at the point of delivery or something or just lie
Xpaulusx The Legion of Libertas The Smurfs Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:49:00 - [32] You guys made the right call with total shutdown, better save then sorry, good job guys
Julienne Poirier Gallente Nonya Endeavours	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:50:00 - [33] Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. this doesn't count tranquility right?
SacrificiaLamb	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:50:00 - [34] lotta ignorance of what a DDoS attack is up in HURR
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:50:00 - [35] I know very little (well close to nothing) about how these things work. Server side stuff scares/and bores this amateur would be website owner(well I have a couple flat html pages with adsense on them but thats hardly a web site) Curious though... Are there "security experts" of the entrepeneurial type who's compensation was based on whether or not the were able to crack someones system? Certainly some ex-hackers work as consultants who are hired to recommend protections against attacks they can think of but a pure profit motive of pay to break in seems like it would spur the geniuses who can't be bothered with the interpersonal tact to actually interact as a consultant.
Ingvar Angst Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:51:00 - [36] Servers down again?
Macabre Devil	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:52:00 - [37] Originally by: Shepherd Zavvy Originally by: Macabre Devil lol wut? Sorry if I am gonna have to crab like a lot of other people, but what fun that on one of my two days off, on my birthday, this happens. Not you're fault I know, but what I am annoyed about is that the server comes back up and then I get kicked off again...trying to reset my PI so I can at least get SOME ISK. Yeesh...wonder how I can make back the ISK I lost from this fiasco... see it as a challenge, **** happens ;) happy b-day though TY, and I know stuff happens but I don't get much time to play recently and I rely on PLEX, so I guess if I run out of ISK merp. I don't want SP, but I suppose something for monies could help. Oh goody down again...
Argyill Daniels	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:53:00 - [38] Edited by: Argyill Daniels on 14/06/2011 23:53:51 CCP made the correct call in bringing down the servers. Their actions allowed for mitigation of any possible damage, and allowed for investigation into the perpetrating party. We move onwards.
Leetha Layne	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:54:00 - [39] Still down here at 23:54
JSquared Caldari Quantum Warfare Research and Development Quantum Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:55:00 - [40] Quote: We are back in business Are you sure about that? sigh

Galadeon SaxeCoburg	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:55:00 - [41] ok, so it was up for about 5-10 min. and now back down again with no explanation or warning. Getting attacked again, or what's the story CCP?
Kalissa Sacred Templars RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:56:00 - [42] Exactly the right move to shut things down until you knew what the deal was, easy call & common sense too.
Hayley Sativa	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:57:00 - [43] tbh, I didnt expect to see the server come online again, then it to my surprise. I hope that there wasn't another type of attack and that it's just an extra recheck of whatever necessary .. Yea I'm not a server expert either lol Hey at least we can troll the forums again
Minntinni	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:57:00 - [44] Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you.
TheBashar MilesTeg	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:57:00 - [45] still down for me too
Urgg Boolean	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:57:00 - [46] Originally by: Galadeon SaxeCoburg ok, so it was up for about 5-10 min. and now back down again with no explanation or warning. Getting attacked again, or what's the story CCP? I think we're all wondering the same thing. We simply can't in for all day, and some sign from on high would be nice. Is this the most real form of PvP ever ? CCP versus DDoS hackers ???
Ysengrim	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:57:00 - [47] Originally by: Galadeon SaxeCoburg ok, so it was up for about 5-10 min. and now back down again with no explanation or warning. Getting attacked again, or what's the story CCP? I, for one, got a warning. Was something like 2-3 minutes worth of one. Think is said something along the lines of 'See you in 20 minutes.' Either way, better to err on the side of caution. Good on ya, CCP
Dealth Striker Caldari Striker Ltd	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:59:00 - [48] Crap - server was up log enuff for me to deploy my probes and then pooh! I less than 30 minutes now to get back in to grab them. Nice --------------------- Communication is Key!
Hayley Sativa	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:59:00 - [49] Originally by: Minntinni Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you. +1 !
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:00:00 - [50] Originally by: Xpaulusx You guys made the right call with total shutdown, better save then sorry, good job guys I can tell that you are the kind of person that complements the way 200KG black dude pounds his butthole.

Gawain Hill	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:00:00 - [51] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 23:45:05 Is there a plan in place or changes being reviewed to prevent mitigate such attacks in future? Also, why can we not change our account payment details (Credit cards) until 30 days game time remains, that is ludicrious. How about not storing it at all (or opt in) and let us enter it when we want to add more game time, therefore mitigating breach risk even more. yes you can pay for you eve online account by sending cheques to ccp that way they never store your card details as for mitigating such attacks in the future ccp plans to be the only provider of internet and telephone communications in the world so that they can simply disconnect people who try such things from the internet. the other more realistic option is they are going to brainwash everyone who knows how to do such things so that they can never be done to ccp. (should I point out the sarcasm there or is it obvious?) ok the serious bit, there is nothing anyone can really do to stop such attacks short of doing exactly what ccp did and for an online game that kinda sucks for us. Oh the bit about cheques was actually true or was last time I looked at the billing options but I should imagine that they still accept them.
Admiral Leviathan	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:00:00 - [52] damn servers crashed again, and i got a escalation that expires in roughly 3.5 hours... thing is, i need to leave now and will be back in roughly 3.3-3.4 hours. will CCP pay my ticket if the police catches me speeding and then reset my timer for the escalation?
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:00:00 - [53] From what I understand, DDoS is impossible to stop if they really want to do it. Is this true?
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:00:00 - [54] Originally by: Hayley Sativa Originally by: Minntinni Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you. +1 ! -1 !
Hayley Sativa	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:02:00 - [55] Originally by: Zleon Leigh Originally by: Hayley Sativa Originally by: Minntinni Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you. +1 ! -1 ! Awww someone needs a hug
Dazram Two	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:04:00 - [56] When can we expect servers to be back up?
Melchiades Seti	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:05:00 - [57] Guess UTC time is around midnight turning to the 15th right now. The game says the server is down, and so does the server monitor site. The posts and announcements seem to say it is up. I note this forum is very slow, are these nasty people at it again? Can anyone confirm for me the game is up? Thanks!
Inviegle	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:05:00 - [58] Originally by: Hayley Sativa Originally by: Minntinni Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you. +1 ! +1
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:05:00 - [59] Originally by: Marlona Sky From what I understand, DDoS is impossible to stop if they really want to do it. Is this true? Yes. ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Largo LaGrande	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:05:00 - [60] yeah good job on detecting it so soon my question however is are any goons involved j/k good job

Izziee	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:06:00 - [61] In my experience you guys are one of the best companies. I see you in the help channel talking and playing with us, when I subbed to the game I had a GM come to me personally and ask if I am alright and enjoying myself, I see you make decent updates and with this you did the right thing. <3 you guys
Buttlubbin Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:06:00 - [62] Thanks for keeping all our stuffs secure, CCP. Better to err on the side of caution, given the lessons learned from the Sony incident.
Dretzle Omega Caldari Ozeki Corp.	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:06:00 - [63] Servers back up? This thread says it, but I'm not seeing it.
Tobiaz Spacerats	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:07:00 - [64] Originally by: Minntinni Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you. +1 Thank the internet for Twitter I'm even grateful for the 3 minutes I managed to log in and set my skillqueues to 'end of the world'.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:07:00 - [65] At least the forums are back so we can ***** and moan here instead of on face book and expose what truely horrid geeks we are. Not that I'm speaking about myself mind you.
Selinate Amarr Mocking Birds	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:07:00 - [66] Originally by: Largo LaGrande yeah good job on detecting it so soon my question however is are any goons involved j/k good job Here I was going to blame it on xbox fanbois mad at Dust 514. Servers are still down... a bit confused at "We're back in business".
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:08:00 - [67] Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. Update: Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible. Yay for doing the right thing. Now if only we could call some dusties to go wipe out these pesky Lulzers....
Rasz Lin Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:08:00 - [68] Originally by: Marlona Sky From what I understand, DDoS is impossible to stop if they really want to do it. Is this true? yes it takes time, cooperation and competence from all involved parties to make it stop
zeezeee	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:09:00 - [69] http://killboard.atlas-dot.net/?a=home check the news, Atlas. claiming responsability. We would like to annouce that Atlas. has paid LulzSec to carry out the final, and most important stage of Operation: Free Shmak Datash. TAKE THAT GM HORSE / NOVA! I await your pitiful attempt to attack me by banning my account,
Governess Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:09:00 - [70] CCP is always very professional

Raid'En	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:10:00 - [71] a bit bitter about this lost time, but it was the good choice to make a whole check up here. good job.
Haruka Ovaert	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:12:00 - [72] Edited by: Haruka Ovaert on 15/06/2011 00:11:52 Originally by: Minntinni Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you. ye well worth my Ç 10.38 ($ 15,-) a month .. o wait no its Ç 15,- ($ 21.67) i forgot anyways, none the less, good work on the swift responce and i hope that the bastards who did this get shot by some homeless guy/gal in need of there 10cents they got in there pockets atm.
Olleybear Minmatar I R' Carebear	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:12:00 - [73] Looks like LulzSec initiated a DDOS against Eveonline login servers according to what I read earlier today: Slashdot Article on Eveonline outage For those who dont know, a DDOS stands for Distributed Denial Of Service and is usually meant to do exactly what the name sounds like, meaning deny the use of a service, this case logging into Tranquility. CCP did do the right thing in taking things down and auditing their stuff to make sure nothing was breached. I'm sure many people here would like to hear a more techincal explanation of what occured and if anything else besides a DDOS was found. Perhaps when the smoke clears we can get a juicy Dev blog?
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:12:00 - [74] Originally by: Rasz Lin Originally by: Marlona Sky From what I understand, DDoS is impossible to stop if they really want to do it. Is this true? yes it takes time, cooperation and competence from all involved parties to make it stop You missed that its also rather expensive. If you start getting DDoS'ed all the time then it makes sense to get some security firms to hunt down and block the attackers... but for (hopefully) one off attacks it makes better sense to just duck and cover.
Quixote2961 Minmatar Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:13:00 - [75] A word to the wise... If CCP is being subject to a DDoS attack your best bet is to get your ships safe and dock up. There is very little CCP can do to stop the attack and, if the attackers are persistent enough, they will succeed in bringing the servers down again and again.
Salene Gralois K-2	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:17:00 - [76] While horribly inconvenient; thank you for taking appropriate measures.
Febreeze Minmatar Pentergy	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:18:00 - [77] Better safe than sorry, keep up the proactive work and communications.
Nizran L'Crit	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:19:00 - [78] Im sure this will get deleted, but, just like they told us that our data was not at risk during the new forums fiasco and Helicity proved them wrong in that regard, see the Helicity blog for more info, this particular incident was pulled off by lulzsec, a fairly elite hacker group that is known for hacking into systems during DDoS attacks and taking data (Read Sony), take what CCP says with a grain of salt, they have subscribers to retain. Lulz tweet page is here: http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec
Meta2	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:19:00 - [79] Lulzsec needs to be podded.... and have all their clone contracts revoked. Then a Moros capital ship needs to assume assault orbit over their homes and their families homes and open fire until nothing but vapor remains.
Efoin	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:20:00 - [80] Though it has been a pain not being able to play most of the day, I appreciate you guys being thorough and protecting our data.

killer9124	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:20:00 - [81] good work and fast action sony could take a few pointers
Zenst Hall Of Flame Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:20:00 - [82] Originally by: Salene Gralois While horribly inconvenient; thank you for taking appropriate measures. Agreed, well done CCP.
Khellendrose	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:20:00 - [83] CCP is credit to team :D
Speaker4 theDead	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:21:00 - [84] Was this a premature e-proclamation? Still show not accepting connections here...
M Dragon	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:21:00 - [85] Originally by: Buttlubbin Thanks for keeping all our stuffs secure, CCP. Better to err on the side of caution, given the lessons learned from the Sony incident. Yeah, but sony deserved what they got after they tried to sue someone that tried to help them But still, Great job CCP, i think it was the smart choice. Lulzsec probably thinks their so cool, cant wait untill someone stops them
Sakuyamon	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:21:00 - [86] They made the right move shutting down the servers. I hope they caught the people(s) doing this too as a DDOS is illegal. I had one of those on another game and the people doing it were busted.
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:21:00 - [87] Originally by: Macabre Devil lol wut? Sorry if I am gonna have to crab like a lot of other people, but what fun that on one of my two days off, on my birthday, this happens. Not you're fault I know, but what I am annoyed about is that the server comes back up and then I get kicked off again...trying to reset my PI so I can at least get SOME ISK. Yeesh...wonder how I can make back the ISK I lost from this fiasco... Ha ha, can totally relate, every time I end up with time off work there's either a patch or an outage! The sooner this is sorted the better, can't keep depriving people of blowing me up lol
Savos Darkran	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:21:00 - [88] Reminds me of Undernet... Anyone? Anyone? All jokes aside. Good work CCP.
Ezekiel Amann	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:22:00 - [89] We should hire hit men to go break their hands or something, probably the same loser(s) who ganked Playstation network... Excellent work to CCP though. I only have 13 hours until my skill queue goes down though lol.
Keflin Geard Versatech Co. Raiden.	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:22:00 - [90] Nice job CCP. While DDos happen all the time, this group has been doing some really nasty stuff of late - Bethesda had source code stolen and posted online - A through security review was the prudent thing to do.

Mr Cleann Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [91] Originally by: Sarge Farris You guy's did a good job by Detecting the attack, and then shutting off the network access etc :) So yeah good job all in all! No risk of the "attacker" getting any info if they can't access the network :P hugz for CCP OUTSTANDING, I hope you can track these individuals down and skin them alive. Or at least toss them out an airlock. Glad you were able to stop them in their tracks and ensure the security of all concerned. Now that I got my arms and legs, How about a room to try them out in :) Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
ROAR Exodus	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [92] How can I RMT without my botters online.. I Hope there is a plan to reimburse me.
Wakeland	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [93] Tranquility.
Aryanna Callibri	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [94] Hmmmm...still not accepting connections. Could someone explain to me how this is "back in business"?
Yakyuk	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [95] I would not doubt at the least we came under attack due to the war on sony. I read that dust was gonna be on one of sonys game systems. Sony is bad and there is a hacker war goin on against them. They did some pretty rotten things to good people on sonystation games. SWG for one instant. I played SWG for almost 6 years till it went down, so i quit, deleted the game and went to EVE full time. They lost my 3 accounts and i now have 3 accounts on Eve. Beware of sony. I wouldnt touch them with a houndred foot pole at this point. Thanx EVE for lookin out for our assets. Good job. Randy aka-Yakyuk
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [96] Originally by: Meta2 Lulzsec needs to be podded.... and have all their clone contracts revoked. Then a Moros capital ship needs to assume assault orbit over their homes and their families homes and open fire until nothing but vapor remains. Nooo. we don't want to kill them... takes all the fun out of it if your opponent is dead. means they can't appreciate the fact that they have lost... no you strap them into a life support machine, remove their eyelids, pump them full of steroids, and play Disney films to them on an endless loop. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Damarius Kaotica Gallente Capitalist Pig Running Dogs	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [97] Those DDoS attacks are really nasty. Great job CCP. Good thing it didn't attack any of us. Knock on wood
florin2001ro	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [98] LOLLLLLLLLLL guys wake up, i think CCP just pay DDoS to stop cmon for Sony was 2 weeks and our CCP rezolve in few h lolllll we still have a lot bugs and watch fps again is 60 no one ask why i see,anyway prbls just incoming i believe
WooZer	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [99] The amount of incoming connections causing the flooding of traffic is because of all the DRF/WN/Ev0ke etc botters trying to log back in....CCP's war on bots calling it now :p
Sam AxMan	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [100] CCP keep up the great work .... My Cap fleet is at the ready to offer some pay back on these nob's .... BOOM !! BABE BOOM !!

Jaded Rage	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [101] LulzSec took down systems at the Escapist, Eve Online, Minecraft and League of Legends Tuesday during a three-hourlong distributed denial-of-service rampage that left gamers annoyed and the Lulz hackers crowing. "Welcome to #TitanicTakeoverTuesday where everyone is laughing at crybabies getting Lulz Cannoned!" the hacking group said during one of its many Twitter messages documenting the online assault. LulzSec emerged out of nowhere last month and immediately embarked on a series of high-profile hacking attacks, stealing data from Sony and game-maker Bethesda Softworks and compromising computers at the U.S. Senate and the Public Broadcasting Service, among others. Unlike the better-known Anonymous hacking group, LulzSec doesn't appear to have any particular political motivation behind its attacks. The group takes its name from Lulz -- hacker speak for "laughs" -- and often appears to be hacking just for the fun of it. Tuesday's attack started at the Escapist, an online magazine whose forums had swelled with angry comments after the Bethesda hack. "I want them caught and punished, a few years in jail for people like that would be hell," wrote Escapist forum member Psychicflash666 before the site was taken down. An Escapist spokesman said that access to the company's website was "intermittent" for three hours Tuesday because of the attack. "Our system administrators are still reviewing the situation to assess whether anything occurred other than a DDoS attack," he said in an e-mail message. After its attack on the Escapist, LulzSec invited people to call in via telephone and recommend new targets. It then began attacking gaming sites Eve Online, Minecraft and League of Legends. The hackers also said that they hit FinFisher, an IT intrusion monitoring company owned by Gamma Group. Late Tuesday Eve Online and the Escapist websites remained offline, but League of Legends, Minecraft and FinFisher were all operational. "And that concludes our DDoS party: Escapist Magazine, Eve Online, Minecraft, League of Legends + 8 phone requests. #TitanicTakeoverTuesday," LulzSec said in a Twitter message. An hour later, LulzSec was again inviting followers to call in. "Now accepting calls from true lulz fans - let's all laugh together at... gamers. "
Seribius	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [102] I personally support any action that CCP will take to protect EVE's integrity. I also feel that we should retaliate against Lulzsec for their childish bastard-ery, excuse my language. If there is an Anti-lulzsec alliance, I'll happily join.
Zavouzo	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [103] Quote: tranquility taken offline reported by CCP Manifest \| 2011.06.15 00:10:04 \| NEW Shortly after service was restored to the EVE Online Tranquility server, the CCP Security Task force became aware of ongoing traffic flooding which prompted them to take the server offline. We apologize for the inconvenience but feel this step was warranted in order to protect our customers and the service we provide to them. We are continuing to monitor the situation diligently and will bring the game servers online again only when we feel it is safe to do so. Thank you for your patience and understanding. fyi
Devapriya	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:23:00 - [104] Good Job.
LoL At You	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:24:00 - [105] Just one thing... Good Work!!!
keserooz	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:24:00 - [106] Latest message on the login page Shortly after service was restored to the EVE Online Tranquility server, the CCP Security Task force became aware of ongoing traffic flooding which prompted them to take the server offline. We apologize for the inconvenience but feel this step was warranted in order to protect our customers and the service we provide to them. Please feel free to discuss this in this thread.
Smuff Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:24:00 - [107] WHAT HECK REFUND SOME ISK ? FOR THE DOWN TIME bUDS ORSKILL BOOST HE HE.
Ok Meow	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:24:00 - [108] Thank you CCP for being cautious and securing out information; ingame and out of game. Can you retime my escalations please :).
Wabbit Lepus	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:24:00 - [109] Good job guys. Thanks for the quick response
DeepfriedTator	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:24:00 - [110] Guess we should count our blessings.. While this game was more fortionate than other games that were hacked today. CCP should pass along its security measures.. when you detect a DDOS, unplug servers. Everyone can thank LULZ hackerz for the fun for today.. you can google what other games where hit today

Tereliss Verr Minmatar Space Tech Solutions PHOENIX REPUBLIC	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:25:00 - [111] CCP Take all the time needed to fix this issue, is there someway to trace these little b a stards and fry their systems, i hope so and i hope someone that knows how to does
Almaricht Gallente Wangstein Investments Ltd.	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:25:00 - [112] Edited by: Almaricht on 15/06/2011 00:25:24 Noooooo! And I had just finished celebrating the return of service! :( I'm quite sure there are many of us who would LOVE to find these "LulzSec" guys, and, uh... have a chat. Btw, Miilla is the biggest troll ever, who never leaves Rens and is always spamming contracts like it was going out of style, so please don't ever listen to a single thing she has to say, because she's not usually saying anything worthwhile or constructive anyway. ;) --Alma the Jew ---- "I think we're gonna need a bigger boat..." -- JAWS
Absolute Zeroe	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:25:00 - [113] All of your staff has done a terrific Job keep up the great work!
selynia Anneto	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:25:00 - [114] Nice job but it appears that there is still some trouble logging in for some. I for one cannot get logged in. Keep getting that " The cluster is not currently accepting connections" would be nice to be able to play on my weekend.
Jack Aaron	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:25:00 - [115] Edited by: Jack Aaron on 15/06/2011 00:25:57 From what i have researched on the net, some hacking group that calls themselves Lulzsec is bragging about being the cause of this incident. They are also claiming credit for the Playstation Network going down a while ago too. I would personally like to see these kinds of malicious hackers prosecuted to the fullest extent of their laws. It's not like they were hacking information that the government was trying to hide or cover up. lol these people took down a few video game servers. lol. and they think themselves epic. "LULZ" is all i have to say about them :) edit: guess i'm a little late to the party LOL, just repeating what everyone else already seems to know.
Slik Minmatar Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:25:00 - [116] You say our data is safe, and not compromised. I believe in the early stages sony said the same thing, so I don't really feel comforted by CCP's assurances. What are Lulzsec motives for this attack? Yep.
Phugoid	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:25:00 - [117] Well, tho it is extremely annoying, I understand that CCP has to secure the server above all else. I bet its some Russian doing it :) Anywaz, just goes to show how addicting this game is when one realizes when there is no Eve.... and one says... Now What?!?!? If its down more than 24 hours we are all screwed! wheres my Xbox 360?
Lyssane Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:26:00 - [118] Good job on keeping us safe CCP, better safe then sorry. BTW sorry about the hamsters, my kittens got loose and had their first hunt. i can snailmail you the eartags if you want them back An eye for an eye will make us all blind
Gellan Alabel	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:26:00 - [119] I have to agree. A few hours of lost game time was a great time to get outside. In any case a quick response to a DDoS is way more important, you personal data can cause you thousands of REAL money.
Atreus Venom	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:26:00 - [120] Originally by: Saint Lazarus I'm DC'in alot -_- REALLY? thats weird.. man just keep trying to log in.. im sure you will get it soon

Saanen Alsistani	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:26:00 - [121] i think some members of goon swarm are part of that group.. hey i was monitoring there coms the other night..
hellyeaz	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:26:00 - [122] An Unscripted, Emergent Experience...... hellyeaz! i'll catch you guys later.
Master Vrook	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:27:00 - [123] Are we going to get any unallocated skill points for waiting this long? Please? lol
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:27:00 - [124] From what i understand this works like a zombie apocalypse. Computer is taken over then takes over others until someone has like 8. Then master zombie flicks the switch then all the zombies attack the target. It's a DDoS. Check it out on Wikwpedia. Most poeple attacking have no idea what they're doing. However there's a windows patch going on right now. It's going to be allright.
MF Machiavelli Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:27:00 - [125] Originally by: Hayley Sativa CCP, THANK YOU FOR BEING AWESOME! /me adds 5 Bil bounty on LulzSec's head Ring Leader/Website Manager Name: William P. Davis Address: 124 Pine St. Bangor, Maine 04401 United States Phone: +1.2076605342 Email: [email protected] Websites: http://lulzsecurity.com/ http://freze.it/ http://wpdavis.com/ ill take that!
Vestigal	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:27:00 - [126] Edited by: Vestigal on 15/06/2011 00:28:32 Originally by: Savos Darkran Reminds me of Undernet... Anyone? Anyone? Yeah probaly lulz have allready injected a masive drone-bot-net into tranquility and now well never get it back :P
Llarz	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:27:00 - [127] What is 'Traffic Flooding'
Sharp Wind	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:27:00 - [128] Edited by: Sharp Wind on 15/06/2011 00:31:07 In your post you said that none of Users "Credentials or Credit Card data" was accessed. So I am correct to assume that players Pass Words and User names were not compromised. Just like to know and also know I understand the 'Real Life' world is not what we would like it to be and shutting it all down was probably the best thing to do. Peace n Health, Sharp Wind In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move ~ Douglas Adams
Trad Sigu	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:28:00 - [129] It was a ddos, nothing you can do about it. They have stopped the attacks , bring the servers online....
Governess Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:28:00 - [130] Edited by: Governess on 15/06/2011 00:27:58 Well, nothing is perfect.

Vala Malderran	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:28:00 - [131] As some of you may have noticed. The server was up then went back down again. This will be at least 1 full day of DT if not more. We should get SP based on time lost for the unexpected and extended DT. We can all agree on that. Will CCP provide it... LAMO... Yea no. Some may have also noticed that as of this post you cant change your password. This furthers my suspicions that our personal data to some degree has been compromised.
Jack Aaron	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:28:00 - [132] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Meta2 Nooo. we don't want to kill them... takes all the fun out of it if your opponent is dead. means they can't appreciate the fact that they have lost... no you strap them into a life support machine, remove their eyelids, pump them full of steroids, and play Disney films to them on an endless loop. Evil ^
Kiith Taiidan	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:28:00 - [133] Good going guys.
Almaricht Gallente Wangstein Investments Ltd.	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:28:00 - [134] Originally by: Slik You say our data is safe, and not compromised. I believe in the early stages sony said the same thing, so I don't really feel comforted by CCP's assurances. What are Lulzsec motives for this attack? Does the Devil need a reason to F you in the A? No.
Willudie	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:28:00 - [135] I agree with everyone else about the fast threat response time, but might be possible that the DDoS attack is not still active and you shut down again because 100-150 thousand players are trying to connect their clients to update skills, put fuel in their POS's, etc?
Kat Isu	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:30:00 - [136] I like how some people are saying "Ban the IP's of all the attacks". Yeah problem there is, most of the 'attackers' don't know they're doing it; since the file causing the attack is distributed similarly to a virus. So you could end up banning a long standing EVE player who hates LulzSec.
GeoBlue	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:30:00 - [137] Good job, but it's been over 8 hrs on my end. I will accept 2 million skill points please. Thank You.
Constantance Dreamer	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:30:00 - [138] Still getting the "Server not accepting connections" If it's up and running, why is it not accepting connections?
Ms Lynn	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:30:00 - [139] Originally by: Ezekiel Amann We should hire hit men to go break their hands or something, probably the same loser(s) who ganked Playstation network... Excellent work to CCP though. I only have 13 hours until my skill queue goes down though lol. i know your pain, have 6 hours left on my que after working the past 18 hours being unable to hit my que has me a bit sad. I have faith they will have ther servers up in time still a drag though.
Atreus Venom	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:30:00 - [140] lulzsec is kinda scarey they hack ALOT of ****... they even hacked a website that offered 10K to anyone who could... they did it and put there logo ontop of a picture on the page and added to the website keep your money we did it for the lulz... and they brought down 4 or 5 games today.. one of which happened to be EVE

Xenofarion Gallente Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:31:00 - [141] Edited by: Xenofarion on 15/06/2011 00:31:25 funny picture And it was the right decision -- those who can, do those who can't, complain
Melchiades Seti	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:31:00 - [142] These guys attacked the US Sentate web sites? I've gotten along well in this world by not messing with people who can answer the question "you and what army?". They're toast. Hope they make them eunechs before throwing them into some sex starved prison.
Max Paterson	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:31:00 - [143] Damnit ... What will I do without my EVE? I might actually have to go outside ...
Maximus Thrax	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:31:00 - [144] Reacting to DDOS by denying paying subscriber access is overly simplistic. Load balancing content filter switches (Big-IP F5, Nortel Alteon) perform the TCP 3-way handshake, thus keeping resource depleting DDoS connections from crashing the servers. I find it highly unlikely the DDoS is consuming all the Internet bandwidth.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:31:00 - [145] Originally by: Llarz What is 'Traffic Flooding' The servers, and the data pipes connecting them to the outside world can only take a certain number of requests per second. In a DDoS attack a bot net of tens of thousands to millions of infected computers around the world are instructed to start spamming out huge numbers of requests to the target server. The target server and incoming data routers can't take the strain and collapse. Often while this is going on the hackers will try to use the DDoS attack to cover a break in to steal data. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Gellan Alabel	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:31:00 - [146] I have to agree. A few hours of lost game time was a great time to get outside. In any case a quick response to a DDoS is way more important, you personal data can cause you thousands of REAL money.
Chris Calamari	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [147] CCP proving once again why they are, without a shadow of a doubt, one of the best gaming companies of all time
Rickbass4001	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [148] I'm glad the threat was found. . . .I'm just bummed I can't kill stuff before the kids want dinner!
BlackCobalt Coretech Industries Redrum Fleet	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [149] I think CCP took the right action by taking the service offline to identify the threat to the service and player accounts.
Sister Virgin	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [150] A DOS or Denial of Service attack (most commonly done with a ping flood) is most often completely different than a hacking attempt to breach a database. Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. Two COMPLETELY different things. It sounds like CCP has ****ed someone off big time whom is retaliating by flooding the servers. And CCP to pull some smoke and mirrors has used that to their advantage to try to make themselves look like heros. Some people are not THAT stupid.... Sigh.... Oh and some advice to CCP. Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this. I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) To players; Until CCP does that, I predict they could be down for days until law enforcement can intervene. Sucks, I wanted to play today. Cheers Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker

Miadora	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [151] Ok. Tranquility is up and running and I am in.
CrimsonMask V1	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [152] find the one who did it tie them down and lay a papper towel on there face and light it on fire wont kill them but make then not wana do it again
Mario Doshu Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [153] Typical lol, last night when I was restarting my PI I said to myself "shall I set it for 48hrs for a change" but I was like like naaahhh, that was just typical...
John Dowland	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [154] Edited by: John Dowland on 15/06/2011 00:33:12 Good luck guys. Let's hope the FBI and DOJ takes "Cyberterrorism" as seriously as it does online poker.
Cyrus Doul E0 Corp	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:32:00 - [155] Edited by: Cyrus Doul on 15/06/2011 00:33:24 Soo what CCP staff is Boris? I guess Tuxford
salia20001	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [156] CCP; Outstanding Job boys!!! (AND girls!) Certainly with all the news of private info being hacked off some of the worlds biggest gaming servers, you have handled this very well. Kudos to you and thank you... Now, can we talk about the loot I had to leave behind? (JOKING... sort of) Good job!
Governess Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [157] Sorry about the previous post....sig bugged.
Kravasher Prime	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [158] Back up .. woohoo!!
Gilbotn	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [159] If I wanted my mother telling me when I could and could not play a video game I would move back into her house. The fact of the mater is, this was not an attack to try and destroy EVE or gain valuable information but merely an act of an online gang who became bored and needed something to do. EVE was bound to be a target at some point in time.
Whas' up	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [160] u should monitor LulzSec's Twitter and watch out.

RiskyFrisky Interrobang Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [161] Edited by: RiskyFrisky on 15/06/2011 00:33:20 Originally by: Gellan Alabel I have to agree. A few hours of lost game time was a great time to get outside. In any case a quick response to a DDoS is way more important, you personal data can cause you thousands of REAL money. Actually no, I took advantage to go out and buy something. Ended up wasting a tank of gas and not getting what I wanted cause the store ****ing closed by the time I found it. Trolled by life.
Atreus Venom	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [162] Originally by: Constantance Dreamer Still getting the "Server not accepting connections" If it's up and running, why is it not accepting connections? not up and running read the updates
EVOlutionXII	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [163] U MAD BRO?
Cole Ontor	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:33:00 - [164] ddos hmm i suggest a rollback to pre speednerf just to be on the safe side nice reaction ccp,well done better safe then sorry
Seline Morgan	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:34:00 - [165] slightly annoyed that i can't play, but considering what is happening my anoyance will take a backseat to my relief and thanks to CCP for their actions 100,000,000 people got their information compromised on the playstation network through some type of hackery, and i thank CCP that my name is not being added to the list of statistics by their quick actions some people suggested having the payment information cleared and not stored, but its more than that, there is the simple login information for individual characters that would allow unauthorized access to your characters probably resulting in thousands of titans being for sale on ebay
Compile Error	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:34:00 - [166] I'm in no doubt that taking the service down was the correct response to this situation no matter what captain hindsight has to say later on. Thanks for acting quickly and responsibly to a potentially very nasty situation.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:34:00 - [167] Originally by: Jack Aaron Originally by: Soden Rah Nooo. we don't want to kill them... takes all the fun out of it if your opponent is dead. means they can't appreciate the fact that they have lost... no you strap them into a life support machine, remove their eyelids, pump them full of steroids, and play Disney films to them on an endless loop. Evil ^ Yes, I am actually Megamind in real life __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
idea	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:34:00 - [168] I must thank who ever did this, finally i was able to take a shower and eat a hot dinner at dinner time and not at launch time for a change.
Jehan Markow	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:34:00 - [169] First of all, you guys are doing great, and you're doing the right thing. As a longtime member of this community, I'm proud of CCP's record of customer security. It makes me shiver to think what would happen if CCP were owned by Sony, but... here's hoping I didn't jinx Dust 514. Secondly, it seems that the past year's wave of internet terrorism has been fueled by one cause: the growing economic war between China and the United States. Information is at the heart of this global conflict, which is why it manifests itself in these kinds of internet attacks. I know that the common wisdom in the corporate world is that "we need to work with China" in order to grow each and every corporation. But at the risk of more DDoS attacks and the risks to customer security? China's hand is now heavy across all sorts of corporate dealings around the world. As a non-Chinese customer of EVE Online, I feel it is unfair that I get relegated to a second-class internet existence while Chinese players get their own, unconnected universe. I feel it is unfair that all sorts of other corporations make similar exemptions to the Chinese, and I wish that the whole lot of you CCP execs had the balls to say "No, China, you are going to be treated just like everyone else, no exceptions." If they don't want to play with us second class citizens, they can go stew in a corner on their own. Now, I (obviously) disagree with the actions of those who deny service to clients of corporations that bow down before China. But I do agree in part with their motivations. If CCP really wants to keep itself neutral in the global cyberwar, it needs to sell off its Beijing assets and reboot its Chinese operations from scratch, with the thought of universal equality foremost in its mind. I doubt you could do it, but there you have the shortest road out of this madness. In the meantime, I'll just hunker down and try to weather the coming DDoS storms. -JM
Eddie Adama	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:36:00 - [170] AND it's raining outside. What am I supposed to do... resort to real human interaction???

Robbie Rage Charante	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:36:00 - [171] Well the last game I played had an attach DDos attack and it was never the same always lagging. I left that game and came here to play. I just hope its not same way here it takes all the fun out of the game!
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:37:00 - [172] Originally by: Sister Virgin Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker The kids won't even have a clue about that one. lol +1
routerpimp	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:37:00 - [173] huh - conveniently the free ISK Vol 1 offer disappeared too.
SolidSnake5	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:37:00 - [174] ty CCP for saveing EvE i hope the huckers DDoS attacks get find put they in jail
Jadzia D	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:37:00 - [175] Its the ruskies!!!!!!!!!!!
Jordan Garrett	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:38:00 - [176] To the Eve Community of Profiteers, Pilots, and Pirates: I read most of the replies to this announcement. I'm new to Eve - only a week old - but I have wanted to check Eve out since it was announced (and I have also wanted to AVOID EVE - for fear of getting SUCKED in, as I did when I foolishly downloaded and activated the 14-day trial last week. I sub'd 3 days later. :D Anyway, rather than rant and rave and have a tantrum, the mature Eve denizens applauded CCP for being decisive and quickly erring on the side of caution in OUR best interests. Yes, Kudos to CCP for acting quickly and wisely, but as a new user, I also say "Kudos to the Eve Community of Players for reacting in such a dignified manner." This Eve place ... is quickly started to feel like home. Can you imaging how the WoW kiddies would have reacted? Did you see the YouTube video of that kid whose mom shut off his WoW account??!! Hilarious - and disturbingly sad... J.G.
Macabre Devil	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:38:00 - [177] Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Macabre Devil lol wut? Sorry if I am gonna have to crab like a lot of other people, but what fun that on one of my two days off, on my birthday, this happens. Not you're fault I know, but what I am annoyed about is that the server comes back up and then I get kicked off again...trying to reset my PI so I can at least get SOME ISK. Yeesh...wonder how I can make back the ISK I lost from this fiasco... Ha ha, can totally relate, every time I end up with time off work there's either a patch or an outage! The sooner this is sorted the better, can't keep depriving people of blowing me up lol Yep, I get Tuesday and Wednesdays off...Patch Days...this never goes well for me.
3 bears	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:38:00 - [178] Kudos to all. Thank you for the good work.
Raze Crandraven	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:38:00 - [179] Good job detecting the attack! gratz ccp! :) nice job!
Jack Aaron	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:39:00 - [180] Originally by: idea I must thank who ever did this, finally i was able to take a shower and eat a hot dinner at dinner time and not at launch time for a change. lol

Ola Hardbottle	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:39:00 - [181] Great Job CCP.
Wolf Spyder	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:39:00 - [182] Great job CCP!! Do we get reimbursed for the time we were unable to play?
Osunn	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:40:00 - [183] I have been in this situation myself. You did the right thing, good job.
Kobi Junzo	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:40:00 - [184] good job guys.
Almaricht Gallente Wangstein Investments Ltd.	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:41:00 - [185] Originally by: Sister Virgin A DOS or Denial of Service attack (most commonly done with a ping flood) is most often completely different than a hacking attempt to breach a database. Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. Two COMPLETELY different things. It sounds like CCP has ****ed someone off big time whom is retaliating by flooding the servers. And CCP to pull some smoke and mirrors has used that to their advantage to try to make themselves look like heros. Some people are not THAT stupid.... Sigh.... Oh and some advice to CCP. Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this. I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) To players; Until CCP does that, I predict they could be down for days until law enforcement can intervene. Sucks, I wanted to play today. Cheers Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker It sounds to me like you might be someone worth looking into... Yes, DOS attacks are feeble and lame, and probably no real reason to go pulling everything off line; but CCP did the right thing here, and if you don't agree with that, again I question your motivations with regard to the security of the EVE Universe. Until the source of the attacks and their full nature can be assertained, the right thing to do is terminate service; and I would have done exactly the same. CCP does have a legal responsibility to protect the security of their client's data, and some people take said responsibility quite seriously. Instead of coming here to demonstrate what is I'm sure your overwhelming technical knowledge (someone needed an ego boost), and to put CCP down; maybe you should use all your skill with the box to find these LulzSec arses and expose them to the world? I, for one, would be very grateful. --Alma
PuJu II Orange Box	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:42:00 - [186] So we are all going to be held to ransom whilst the denial attack continues? What about in future if this happens again?
Jita Trapani	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:43:00 - [187] Sniff Only 1:30 hours left in training queue
Catweezle	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:44:00 - [188] shortly after this attack barclays fraud dept phoned me to inform me my debit card had been blocked because it had been compromised by hackers....so maybe ccp should review its coments....
balgara	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:44:00 - [189] glad you caught it i say a outstanding job..(to scum making a buck off this game) if u get caught with your hand in the cookie jar suck it up and accept the consequences instead of being a immature little ***** pulling a stunt like this if i had my way i would put you on a street corner 10 bucks a pop to pay ccp what u owe them and making this game more difficult to play because of parasites like you do us all a favor and shoot yourself and quit wasting good air and space
StillBorn CrackBaby	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:44:00 - [190] I'm a very effective hacker. After smoking a little bud I *HACK HACK, COUGH COUGH" for hours...

Spec 593357629 Exiled. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:44:00 - [191] TY CCP Grat job Also stop calling these guys hackers they are Trolls who are mad because we blew up their orca or something.
Omega Tron Amarr Amarr Mining Inc	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:45:00 - [192] Here's one more vote for you CCP you did the correct thing. Shut it down until you know it is again safe to run. And the whinners can just lump it.
VampireZIM Blood Raiders Initiate BLOOD EMPIRE	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:45:00 - [193] All brown nosing and fluffy congrats aside. What is CCP going to do about the, in my opinion, mistake in partnering with an evil corporation like sony? You think LulzSec is going to just go away, this is going to be a recurring event, due to that decision. Is it possible that DUST 514 could be moved to XBOX or even better, PC?
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:46:00 - [194] How about you "duck". I know nothing about ip and those things but i figured a whole lot of zombies are tossing exactly -there-. CCP sidesteps and a whole lot of zombies run headfirst into a wall only to get up and try again. Might not work but at least it's funny.
JEK3	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:46:00 - [195] Originally by: Sister Virgin A DOS or Denial of Service attack (most commonly done with a ping flood) is most often completely different than a hacking attempt to breach a database. Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. Two COMPLETELY different things. It sounds like CCP has ****ed someone off big time whom is retaliating by flooding the servers. And CCP to pull some smoke and mirrors has used that to their advantage to try to make themselves look like heros. Some people are not THAT stupid.... Sigh.... Oh and some advice to CCP. Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this. I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) To players; Until CCP does that, I predict they could be down for days until law enforcement can intervene. Sucks, I wanted to play today. Cheers Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker I was about to write that when I saw your post Sister Virgin. I cannot put that better ;-) CCP, I think you should really answer to that post, as it contains a few interesting points!
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:46:00 - [196] Originally by: Adunh Slavy At least the forums are back so we can ***** and moan here instead of on face book and expose what truely horrid geeks we are. Not that I'm speaking about myself mind you. lol +1 and I think moaning too loudly about a half a day down-time is sillly.. it's a a recreational site, no serious business related service and some occasional downtime is expectable just like you'd expect your utilities to be interupted occasionally in a storm etc. Shutting down for security precautions after an attack from a group that seriously compromised Citibank is definitely reasonable. How amateur of a mistake or how preventable might be material to your respect for the technical prowess for the company but given the group, the context and the response it is definitely not an example of poor treatment of consumers. (the new forums was a doozy of an amateur blow it because even I as an amaeteur knew that including a unhashed identification number in a URL is something any begining web developer should know about.... if something like that surfaces and it compromised customer data..well then i'd change my tune)
Bloodheart777	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:47:00 - [197] As always the smartest, strongest and best looking computer geeks in the universe saved our Eve Online world. OOOOORAH!!!!!!
Jack Aaron	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:47:00 - [198] Originally by: Jordan Garrett To the Eve Community of Profiteers, Pilots, and Pirates: ... Can you imaging how the WoW kiddies would have reacted? Did you see the YouTube video of that kid whose mom shut off his WoW account??!! Hilarious - and disturbingly sad... J.G. I actually laughed pretty hard when i read this... Because i just recently left WoW to play EVE myself, and one of the reasons i was sick of WoW (aside from cataclysm just being a bad expansion) is the general lack of maturity in the game, something that i find is far less prominent on EVE. In fact less then a month after i downloaded my 14 day trial my brother cancelled his WoW subscription and followed me here.
Lord Neko	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:47:00 - [199] CCP did the right thing, for all they know the DOS attack could have been a diversion from what was really happening.
MineRont1	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:48:00 - [200] Edited by: MineRont1 on 15/06/2011 00:48:09 hands you a tissue "there you go, now wipe your mouth" It sounds to me like you might be someone worth looking into... Yes, DOS attacks are feeble and lame, and probably no real reason to go pulling everything off line; but CCP did the right thing here, and if you don't agree with that, again I question your motivations with regard to the security of the EVE Universe. Until the source of the attacks and their full nature can be assertained, the right thing to do is terminate service; and I would have done exactly the same. CCP does have a legal responsibility to protect the security of their client's data, and some people take said responsibility quite seriously. Instead of coming here to demonstrate what is I'm sure your overwhelming technical knowledge (someone needed an ego boost), and to put CCP down; maybe you should use all your skill with the box to find these LulzSec arses and expose them to the world? I, for one, would be very grateful. --Alma

topix92	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:48:00 - [201] Originally by: Ejit Edited by: Ejit on 14/06/2011 23:44:50 Is CCP going to pursue this in any way? I mean pass on any logs or whatever to the relevant authority's? I'd luv to see them hang, a la **** Hussian style viral videos Your Joking? language filter blocks Sa_ddam! Hi, Well it is hard for anyone to pursue this because this was a focused attack from a large amount of computers, (your computer can be one of the computers helping in the DDoS, you just don't know it) so it is very hard for CCP to block the ip's or do anything whit the info that they got. LulzSec have some sort of bot in alot of computers (like yours) that helps to bring up the collective networkpower that they need to attack Loginservers and other services whit DDoS. Really smart of LulzSec:P But don't do it agains EVE, just ** on the US government and Sony.
Juicy Grapefruit	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:48:00 - [202] Hope for all of you that it's a regular DDoS attack and not a hybrid mass-brute-force-login attempt. Think that would also cause traffic to flood and look like a regular DDoS so a question from me at CCP is were there massive login attempts? Or is the answer 'according to our logs everything is fine'? My password is changed...
Vandrion Gallente The Collective B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:48:00 - [203] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 23:45:05 Is there a plan in place or changes being reviewed to prevent mitigate such attacks in future? CCP are going to implement a scheme where people are not allowed to use the internet if they are going to do mean things. This is well within their powers and a perfectly reasonable thing to expect of them Said plans and changes will be available for under 100 Aurum in the money store. Thank you for the quick response and for protecting your customers!
NoobPwn	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:48:00 - [204] Edited by: NoobPwn on 15/06/2011 00:48:50 It is not necessary to take down everything when being DDOSed, there may be some argue here, but anyway, are you gonna do it every time somebody DDOS the server? And where is the reimburishment plan of this incident?
Salene Gralois K-2	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:48:00 - [205] Originally by: Sister Virgin A DOS or Denial of Service attack (most commonly done with a ping flood) is most often completely different than a hacking attempt to breach a database. Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. Two COMPLETELY different things. It sounds like CCP has **ed someone off big time whom is retaliating by flooding the servers. And CCP to pull some smoke and mirrors has used that to their advantage to try to make themselves look like heros. Some people are not THAT stupid.... Sigh.... Oh and some advice to CCP. Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this. I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) To players; Until CCP does that, I predict they could be down for days until law enforcement can intervene. Sucks, I wanted to play today. Cheers Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker ping flood, syn flood, bot flood whatever. There are several types of dDos's and as phreaker you know there are several strategies available to reach your goal. One of them is called "distraction". They're not heroes. They took the appropriate measures. "Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this." Please learn more about persistent environments, client-server connections in a both stateless and statefull persistent environments. Not even Amazon or Ebay are invulnerable. If you somehow think they are, you are not** a REAL hacker. Cheers, Salene Gralois Aged, Active, REAL "got hackers convicted" and phreaker.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:49:00 - [206] Originally by: Zleon Leigh Originally by: Sister Virgin Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker The kids won't even have a clue about that one. lol +1 made free calls by whistling down phone lines to mimic the tones used to instruct the automated exchange system, often using free whistles given out in a brand of cereal. and all that happened about 20+ yrs before I was born... so us kids aren't as clueless as you think ;-) Plus I thought if we were being technical, that LuLZ were crackers rather than hackers. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Razz Endul	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:49:00 - [207] Apparently the DDoS is over, but CCP still has Tranquility offline. "And that concludes our DDoS party: Escapist Magazine, Eve Online, Minecraft, League of Legends + 8 phone requests. #TitanicTakeoverTuesday" ^ was on their twitter --> http://twitter.com/#!/lulzsec So it should be back up soon, hopefully :(
Caid Skyfire	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:49:00 - [208] To all of the people who are commending CCP on their "better safe than sorry" approach. And others who are claiming that our information is safe as far as CCP has told us let me clear something up. When Sony was hacked, their initial response was to downplay it for several days, not telling people the extent of the damage. In otherwords, all seemed right at the begining. The second thing is, if we're able to log in to post comments, the same servers which hold our credit card information are also online. Don't count yourselves lucky, just yet. Until CCP knows what exactly has been done, they're going to say as nice of words as they can. "We shut down to prevent damage, to protect you, to protect the servers". This is all they can say at this point. Not to be a doomsayer, only that it's kind of silly to be all "yay, the danger is over, CCP saved us" when in fact there's no way of knowing, yet. -Caid.
Almaricht Gallente Wangstein Investments Ltd.	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:50:00 - [209] Originally by: MineRont1 Edited by: MineRont1 on 15/06/2011 00:48:09 hands you a tissue "there you go, now wipe your mouth" It sounds to me like you might be someone worth looking into... Yes, DOS attacks are feeble and lame, and probably no real reason to go pulling everything off line; but CCP did the right thing here, and if you don't agree with that, again I question your motivations with regard to the security of the EVE Universe. Until the source of the attacks and their full nature can be assertained, the right thing to do is terminate service; and I would have done exactly the same. CCP does have a legal responsibility to protect the security of their client's data, and some people take said responsibility quite seriously. Instead of coming here to demonstrate what is I'm sure your overwhelming technical knowledge (someone needed an ego boost), and to put CCP down; maybe you should use all your skill with the box to find these LulzSec arses and expose them to the world? I, for one, would be very grateful. --Alma Herp-derp... you didn't quite make it all the way with that one, eh? That's ok. Keep tryin'! You'll get it... ---- "I think we're gonna need a bigger boat..." -- JAWS
Augustus Savoy Capital Industries Research And Development Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:51:00 - [210] good job guys on the reaction and re-establishment of service.

topix92	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:52:00 - [211] Originally by: Almaricht Originally by: Sister Virgin A DOS or Denial of Service attack (most commonly done with a ping flood) is most often completely different than a hacking attempt to breach a database. Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. Two COMPLETELY different things. It sounds like CCP has **ed someone off big time whom is retaliating by flooding the servers. And CCP to pull some smoke and mirrors has used that to their advantage to try to make themselves look like heros. Some people are not THAT stupid.... Sigh.... Oh and some advice to CCP. Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this. I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) To players; Until CCP does that, I predict they could be down for days until law enforcement can intervene. Sucks, I wanted to play today. Cheers Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker It sounds to me like you might be someone worth looking into... Yes, DOS attacks are feeble and lame, and probably no real reason to go pulling everything off line; but CCP did the right thing here, and if you don't agree with that, again I question your motivations with regard to the security of the EVE Universe. Until the source of the attacks and their full nature can be assertained, the right thing to do is terminate service; and I would have done exactly the same. CCP does have a legal responsibility to protect the security of their client's data, and some people take said responsibility quite seriously. Instead of coming here to demonstrate what is I'm sure your overwhelming technical knowledge (someone needed an ego boost), and to put CCP down; maybe you should use all your skill with the box to find these LulzSec arses and expose them to the world? I, for one, would be very grateful. --Alma Great answer and also ** LulzSec. It was fun and ok when they hacked the US government and Sony, but not EVE!!
ICU Artrald	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:52:00 - [212] Its making me laugh listen to people whinge and moan about CCP taking down their services. You do realise the people who DDos attacked Eve are the same people that compromised sony's security (Lulzsec). CCP took down the servers to protect your data. Its a lot better than what sony did for their customers.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:53:00 - [213] Looks up to me. Fingers crossed...
KingMazz ONE	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:53:00 - [214] CCP CAN SUCK MY BALLS. ** YOU, CAREBEAR MOTHER**ERS.
Abor Mala	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:54:00 - [215] I'm wondering about the technical details of the DOS attack. If it was a simple PING flood it could be easily disabled by setting an ACL in the firewall to deny all ICMP packets from any source. If it was a TCP SYN flood to the EVE login port it would take some tricky filtering to differentiate between a login request from a real Eve client, and the flood of TCP SYNs from the attacking nodes. I assume there is some sort of rate limit set in the firewall to discard TCP SYNs from the same source IP, but the source IPs could be spoofed to make them different.
Kalnov Gallente Broski Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:54:00 - [216] Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. Update: Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible. According to lulzsec: "Nope, we nulled their entire network and they can't recover, so they're pretending to "keep it down to protect users"."
Salene Gralois K-2	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:55:00 - [217] Originally by: Caid Skyfire Don't count yourselves lucky, just yet. Until CCP knows what exactly has been done, they're going to say as nice of words as they can. "We shut down to prevent damage, to protect you, to protect the servers". This is all they can say at this point. Not to be a doomsayer, only that it's kind of silly to be all "yay, the danger is over, CCP saved us" when in fact there's no way of knowing, yet. -Caid. You are correct. However, that doesn't detract from the fact that appropriate measures were taken. I'll be scrutinizing my bankal [sic?] transactions in the coming months.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:55:00 - [218] I could think of something better yet. Catch a zombie disect it. Patch it back together. Zombie gets up and runs home... Along with every zombie it meets...
Robbie Rage Charante	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:55:00 - [219] Back online and have everything in place and training still going! Great job CCP!
Solarria Mar	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:56:00 - [220] Thank you for your fast thinking and good sound judgement. If nobody told you your doing an outstanding job, and again thank you.

2ofthe9 Gallente Chantry Of The Knights Templar	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:57:00 - [221] "Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance" Always a good plan to follow. Grats to CCP and their service provider ! Remember one thing, Where you are, is, where you are.
penmonkey	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:58:00 - [222] CCP people might be bashing you because there precious fake money(isk) profits are being slightly damaged but i am pretty impressed that you reacted quickly and did what you needed to do to protect user data the shutdown was justified and when you find the hackers you have my permission to realease them into space without a suit :)
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:58:00 - [223] A few points: The group claiming responsibility has stated it was not for any reason beside the "lulz". They also took down a number of other sites today. It's unlikely to be retaliation or a vendetta. A DoS attack is often used to create cover for other more intrusive attacks. (Simplified e.g. : Try to pick out the intrusive connection in the field of non-intrusive and combat it, while trying to combat the DoS simultaneously). With certain systems a DoS can cause flaws in a server response which can allow for exploits to be used (simplified e.g. An overloaded server may not respond correctly to requests, allow for injection, etc) DoS being limited to pings... Um, no. Just, too much wrong with that to even begin to explain it. And most servers are set to ignore anyway. Amazon and eBay are not comparable to CCP, not in scale, scope or resources. That's just... shakes head Oi. CCP's response was correct in this situation. There's just no possible way anyone with current knowledge of networking can say otherwise.
Maabuss Caldari Exiles of Chaos	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:59:00 - [224] CCP needs to just Delete ALL Atlas accounts, sub-accounts, etc, and ban the IP's. Make an example of them. This kind of behavior should NOT be tolerated. ____________________________________________ You Can't Outrun Death Forever, But You Can Make The Bastard Work For It.
Llarz	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:59:00 - [225] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Llarz What is 'Traffic Flooding' The servers, and the data pipes connecting them to the outside world can only take a certain number of requests per second. In a DDoS attack a bot net of tens of thousands to millions of infected computers around the world are instructed to start spamming out huge numbers of requests to the target server. The target server and incoming data routers can't take the strain and collapse. Often while this is going on the hackers will try to use the DDoS attack to cover a break in to steal data. Thank you for the information. I just wasnt sure what it was.
Uncle AWOL	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:59:00 - [226] Originally by: Kalnov Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. Update: Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible. According to lulzsec: "Nope, we nulled their entire network and they can't recover, so they're pretending to "keep it down to protect users"." well let's see whos easier to believe. big business who wants to bleed us dry without it seeming obvious or a bunch of know it all techies who have nothing better to do than screw up other peoples lives. honestly i hate both for different reasons
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:00:00 - [227] Originally by: Sister Virgin Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. interestingly humorous... I hope that was the logic of someone up the line of command who was clueless about such things and who was a typical petty tyrant manager who couldn't find the gray matter to open his mind to suggestions and underlings not wanting to do lasting relationship with said manager (who might be the key holder to their job security). I love that kinda drama for drama sake.. I don't see it as any big failing .. typical corporate stuff and to be expected. Originally by: Sister Virgin It sounds like CCP has **ed someone off big time whom is retaliating by flooding the servers. And CCP to pull some smoke and mirrors has used that to their advantage to try to make themselves look like heros. It's the Anomolie and subsequent Jump Bridge nerf. ANGRY CARE-BEARS ! Originally by:** Sister Virgin To players; Until CCP does that, I predict they could be down for days until law enforcement can intervene. I don't get that.. (sure you're not making your own mistake like the first item above?) If its a virus sort of infection thats in turn causing computers all over to flood the sites even sending the culprits to the firing line isn't going to stop the process... they've released the virus...they can't call it back with a whistle can they? Certainly if it were just a few ip addresses where the dos was orginating from, the big pipes would have shut their access down immediateley after contact.
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:01:00 - [228] Seems you did a good job CCP hat tip
Rhivre Caldari TarNec	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:01:00 - [229] Edited by: Rhivre on 15/06/2011 01:03:10 Dont confuse the PSN outage with the one on Sonypictures.com From the sonypictures one: " We recently broke into SonyPictures.com and compromised over 1,000,000 users' personal information, including passwords, email addresses, home addresses, dates of birth, and all Sony opt-in data associated with their accounts. Among other things, we also compromised all admin details of Sony Pictures (including passwords) along with 75,000 "music codes" and 3.5 million "music coupons". What's worse is that every bit of data we took wasn't encrypted. Sony stored over 1,000,000 passwords of its customers in plaintext, which means it's just a matter of taking it. This is disgraceful and insecure: they were asking for it." Not quite the same as the playstation network hack
Sunji Togenada	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:01:00 - [230] Originally by: Sister Virgin I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) Originally by: Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker lol It's too bad you're retired, "real hacker" I bet you could show the professional security team at CCP a thing or two with your 1980's understanding of information security why don't you go whistle into a payphone and give them a call they might need an outside contractor to show them how to easily stop a DDOS just by telling the routers to ignore some packets (see the extra D there I'll give you a hint it's important go look it up) While you're at it you can insult them some more too so its like a win/win for you

Uncle AWOL	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:02:00 - [231] Originally by: penmonkey CCP people might be bashing you because there precious fake money(isk) profits are being slightly damaged but i am pretty impressed that you reacted quickly and did what you needed to do to protect user data the shutdown was justified and when you find the hackers you have my permission to realease them into space without a suit :) I wouldnt be that easy on them. I would call their parents. :)
Pomocna Dlon	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:03:00 - [232] Originally by: Sister Virgin (...) Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. Two COMPLETELY different things. (...) I believe this may have something to do with recent attacks on Sony's infrastructure and loss of PSN users' credit card data. CCP just wanted to calm everyone down, I guess.
topix92	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:03:00 - [233] Originally by: NoobPwn Edited by: NoobPwn on 15/06/2011 00:48:50 It is not necessary to take down everything when being DDOSed, there may be some argue here, but anyway, are you gonna do it every time somebody DDOS the server? And where is the reimburishment plan of this incident? You have to take in the fact that maybe they hacked some stuff before or was doing it during the DDoS (which is very stupid), you can't take anything for granted in a situation like this. Look at Sony now, they were hacked, hacked, hacked, hacked, hacked, hacked, hacked, hacked, and HACKED by LulzSec because they didn't make the right decision in time. It is better to shut the hole system down and figure out what happened then keep running and risk being hacked. Well done CCP. Everyone which is angry right now, DONT BE ANGRY AT CCP. CCP did what they thought was the best thing to do to not risk your personal information.
la221Rage Gallente Gallente Militia Enforcement	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:06:00 - [234] hey forget about the Ddos attack conspericy where is my shuttle i left it in the staion now all i have is a little note in my hanger saying ricky was here. whos Ricky?
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:06:00 - [235] Originally by: Salene Gralois Originally by: Sister Virgin A DOS or Denial of Service attack (most commonly done with a ping flood) is most often completely different than a hacking attempt to breach a database. Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. ... ping flood, syn flood, bot flood whatever. There are several types of dDos's and as phreaker you know there are several strategies available to reach your goal. One of them is called "distraction". They're not heroes. They took the appropriate measures. "Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this." Please learn more about persistent environments, client-server connections in a both stateless and statefull persistent environments. Not even Amazon or Ebay are invulnerable. If you somehow think they are, you are not a REAL hacker. Cheers, Salene Gralois Aged, Active, REAL "got hackers convicted" and phreaker. Interesting... I learned something else! I enjoy this more than updating trade prices or gate camping or grinding tank xp!
topix92	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:07:00 - [236] Originally by: ICU Artrald Its making me laugh listen to people whinge and moan about CCP taking down their services. You do realise the people who DDos attacked Eve are the same people that compromised sony's security (Lulzsec). CCP took down the servers to protect your data. Its a lot better than what sony did for their customers. Well LulzSec were the masters for this DDoS attack. The only thing they did was to tell all the bots to attack a specific address and then BOOOM!!! down went EVE Online loginserver, Minecraft loginserver and League of Legends loginserver Well done CCP. Everyone which is angry right now, DONT BE ANGRY AT CCP. CCP did what they thought was the best thing to do to not risk your personal information.
Abacus Primo	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:07:00 - [237] Edited by: Abacus Primo on 15/06/2011 01:08:36 Without any drama it too just struck me as odd that they took credit for protecting data so quickly. I agree with the poster that it's not that big of a deal and is clearly a corporate response. And yes could be due to the SONY thing but haven't really been keeping up lately (maybe playing EVE too much). Interesting convo though no doubt.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:07:00 - [238] About the whole credit card thing. CC companies have protocols for that kind of thing right? Something like account sharing? Checking the locations used and the distance and time between them?
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:08:00 - [239] Originally by: Sunji Togenada Originally by: Sister Virgin I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) Originally by: Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker lol It's too bad you're retired, "real hacker" I bet you could show the professional security team at CCP a thing or two with your 1980's understanding of information security why don't you go whistle into a payphone and give them a call they might need an outside contractor to show them how to easily stop a DDOS just by telling the routers to ignore some packets (see the extra D there I'll give you a hint it's important go look it up) While you're at it you can insult them some more too so its like a win/win for you Also frankly when you're on the business end of an attack, and you don't yet know exactly what it is, killing your connection in case its a PDoS attack seems prudent. I don't know what the bill for replacing TQ would be, but the insurance company would not be happy. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Kalnov Gallente Broski Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:09:00 - [240] Originally by: Uncle AWOL Originally by: Kalnov Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. Update: Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible. According to lulzsec: "Nope, we nulled their entire network and they can't recover, so they're pretending to "keep it down to protect users"." well let's see whos easier to believe. big business who wants to bleed us dry without it seeming obvious or a bunch of know it all techies who have nothing better to do than screw up other peoples lives. honestly i hate both for different reasons Both are suspect. Only they really know.

topix92	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:09:00 - [241] Originally by: Abor Mala I'm wondering about the technical details of the DOS attack. If it was a simple PING flood it could be easily disabled by setting an ACL in the firewall to deny all ICMP packets from any source. If it was a TCP SYN flood to the EVE login port it would take some tricky filtering to differentiate between a login request from a real Eve client, and the flood of TCP SYNs from the attacking nodes. I assume there is some sort of rate limit set in the firewall to discard TCP SYNs from the same source IP, but the source IPs could be spoofed to make them different. I guess it was a simpel Ping attack, CCP maybe should have thought about that:P but still LulzSec went easy on CCP. Well done CCP. Everyone which is angry right now, DONT BE ANGRY AT CCP. CCP did what they thought was the best thing to do to not risk your personal information.
Kane Kodiac	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:09:00 - [242] Originally by: Macabre Devil Yeesh...wonder how I can make back the ISK I lost from this fiasco... Maybe they will credit current accounts with skill points like in the past? ...fingers crossed...
Lancot	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:09:00 - [243] I want to address a few things here. 1. CCP did good. Maybe it wasn't the best solution to the problem, but given the reputation of LulzSec (they do seem to have a few who actually know what they are doing), it was the safest solution. A server that is not running is 100% guaranteed not hackable. Also, this decision had another, more subtle, effect. According to LulzSec tweets, they were annoyed/disappointed by the fact that CCP simply wasn't playing along and shut everything down. So in the end, DDOSing Eve wasn't that much of lulz as they expected it to be. It's like someone scrambling your precious ship and you simply self-destroying the ship. It takes out the fun and you give the attacker the proverbial finger. 2. The community was something to be proud of in the last hours. I wasn't on the forums but anywhere else on the internet, I could only read about slight annoyance from the community. No full-blown rage attacks, no immature statements about how stupid everything is (although the statement itself was everywhere, but just in a mature way), etc. You guys rock (until you blow me to smithereens, then you're just cool). 3. How about we order those guys at CCP some pizza, since they do have to work at night right now for our universe to be running?
S'qarpium D'igil	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:09:00 - [244] Thank you, CCP. Keep up the good work! <3 PS. I get mad at you about some things, but you're doing well today. :)
Barbarella Smith	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:10:00 - [245] good job ccp
Cortith Barnacarus Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:12:00 - [246] Jesus.. First Sony, now Bethesda, Nintendo, Codemasters, Epic Games, and even CCP?... Frak, what's the deal with these people?
Wyke Mossari Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:13:00 - [247] Originally by: Sister Virgin --dated BS snipped-- Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker You don't know what you are talking about. A Ping flood is a very old attack vector and doesn't work against any OS less than 10 years old. Today the vast majority of DDOS attacks are carried out with SYN floods, some use a low data rate tear-drop attack. DDOS the front door is often a distraction to hide a covert intrusion via another route. Current Technical Architect.
Martineski	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:13:00 - [248] great response and timing CCP. glad you stopped the attack before damage could have been caused. and for those out there saying just block pings, thats not all there is to it. Pings are just one type of DDoS attack, you can also do packet flooding and other things to bring the servers to a halt. I am studying in the field of Network Security and its more complicated than just a few Countermeasures. Thanks again CCP
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:15:00 - [249] These people, in my own opinion, have a God syndrome. They do those things because they can. They might actually fool themselves into beliving they're "testing the security" or something like twisted that.
Bunnyy Lebowski	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:15:00 - [250] All of the people demanding to know what CCP plans to do to guard against this in the future or details outside of what CCP is offering up should realize: You are asking questions that answers do not exist for yet. Statements made this soon after an event are public facing statements to avoid wild speculative rumors You are asking questions that answers do not exist for yet. Time CCP has to spend dealing with the assault from players is time that isn't being spent doing anything useful. You are asking questions that answers do not exist for yet. You are asking questions that answers do not exist for yet. You should be so fortunate that they have given us even this much information considering how soon it is after. If you are now asking yourself "why?" to the item above it, the answer is "Because, (Insert item below)" You are asking questions that answers do not exist for yet. Relax, anything there is to tell that will be told will be told soon enough. If half the people going "WTFBBQ I DEMAND ANSWERS RAWR IMABEAR!" focused that energy collectively towards the actual source of this problem, you would at worst be doing something more useful than shouting at CCP to "fix their sh*t". You may now proceed to flame me as if any of those items were even remotely untrue. Bunnyy

count sporkula	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:16:00 - [251] There is a very simple answer for this. sometimes the start of dos - ddos - rddos attack is used to mask other intrusions until they finish and can cover their tracks. it is very wise to remove this possibility before they finish. if they where mucking around in there you want all the tracks you can get... it was perfectly reasonable for them to do this. they get a thumbs up from me. Originally by: JEK3 Originally by: Sister Virgin A DOS or Denial of Service attack (most commonly done with a ping flood) is most often completely different than a hacking attempt to breach a database. Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. Two COMPLETELY different things. It sounds like CCP has ****ed someone off big time whom is retaliating by flooding the servers. And CCP to pull some smoke and mirrors has used that to their advantage to try to make themselves look like heros. Some people are not THAT stupid.... Sigh.... Oh and some advice to CCP. Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this. I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) To players; Until CCP does that, I predict they could be down for days until law enforcement can intervene. Sucks, I wanted to play today. Cheers Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker I was about to write that when I saw your post Sister Virgin. I cannot put that better ;-) CCP, I think you should really answer to that post, as it contains a few interesting points!
Tali Ambraelle	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:17:00 - [252] Edited by: Tali Ambraelle on 15/06/2011 01:17:00 Atlas has confirmed to paying RMT cash to LulzSec for the DDoS attack. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1528162&page=2
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:17:00 - [253] Originally by: Wyke Mossari Originally by: Sister Virgin --dated BS snipped-- Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker You don't know what you are talking about. A Ping flood is a very old attack vector and doesn't work against any OS less than 10 years old. Today the vast majority of DDOS attacks are carried out with SYN floods, some use a low data rate tear-drop attack. DDOS the front door is often a distraction to hide a covert intrusion via another route. Current Technical Architect. also talking about Amazon and ebay defending themselves... they post profits in the hundreds of millions... they can afford distributed servers and computer security CCP could only dream of. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
penmonkey	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:17:00 - [254] Originally by: Wyke Mossari Originally by: Sister Virgin --dated BS snipped-- Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker You don't know what you are talking about. we all know he doesnt know anything but a believe you can be arrested for hacking so report report report lol just kidding i know your no hacker you would have to be half way smart A Ping flood is a very old attack vector and doesn't work against any OS less than 10 years old. Today the vast majority of DDOS attacks are carried out with SYN floods, some use a low data rate tear-drop attack. DDOS the front door is often a distraction to hide a covert intrusion via another route. Current Technical Architect.
Sergeant Spot Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:18:00 - [255] Well done CCP. A proper response to a serious situation. Also glad to see that most players recognize reality on this. (as for the 'compensation' whiners, let em rot....) Play nice while you butcher each other.
Uncle AWOL	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:20:00 - [256] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold These people, in my own opinion, have a God syndrome. They do those things because they can. They might actually fool themselves into beliving they're "testing the security" or something like twisted that. this happens every now and then. its sad really that people stupe so low as to believe themselves as superior to the rest of us. or theyve all been watching too many movies. :) BTW i wouldnt be surprised if they tried to hack Microsoft any time soon. so i would get rid of any card information on any and all sites. if possible
Annika Ocada	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:21:00 - [257] They need to be back-traced and the cyber police notified immediately .. consequences will never be the same.
TwoJohn	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:22:00 - [258] Edited by: TwoJohn on 15/06/2011 01:23:28 Originally by: Katrina Raskin A few points: The group claiming responsibility has stated it was not for any reason beside the "lulz". They also took down a number of other sites today. It's unlikely to be retaliation or a vendetta. A DoS attack is often used to create cover for other more intrusive attacks. (Simplified e.g. : Try to pick out the intrusive connection in the field of non-intrusive and combat it, while trying to combat the DoS simultaneously). With certain systems a DoS can cause flaws in a server response which can allow for exploits to be used (simplified e.g. An overloaded server may not respond correctly to requests, allow for injection, etc) DoS being limited to pings... Um, no. Just, too much wrong with that to even begin to explain it. And most servers are set to ignore anyway. Amazon and eBay are not comparable to CCP, not in scale, scope or resources. That's just... shakes head Oi. CCP's response was correct in this situation. There's just no possible way anyone with current knowledge of networking can say otherwise. thank you for stating that. i agree, it is just too much to explain the details... i just wanted to add: you cannot fight ddos by blocking the traffic it causes - because the traffic then already happened! the only way to counter ddos is by filtering/redirecting the traffic on the providers side and/or by shutting down the botnet nodes that cause the traffic! and if the ddos is done right (hate to say that) you cannot do ANYTHING against it but to wait until it stops. CCP has done the right thing. as raskin said, ddos often is done to cloak the real attack. you cannot know when it is just for the "lulz". i hope these stupid kids come to their senses when they realize they just get no support for their bored bull****ting. not even on 4chan. these guys are like the griefers in eve online. they do it for the tears and the whining. ...so stop whining please ;) cu twojohn p.s. i am a too slow poster...
Mike Takumi Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:22:00 - [259] Just curious, all these Atlas. people claiming responsibility will be banned, yes? They've claimed themselves guilty, so I guess they would like judgement of the banhammer.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:24:00 - [260] You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp.

topix92	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:24:00 - [261] Originally by: Lancot I want to address a few things here. 1. CCP did good. Maybe it wasn't the best solution to the problem, but given the reputation of LulzSec (they do seem to have a few who actually know what they are doing), it was the safest solution. A server that is not running is 100% guaranteed not hackable. Also, this decision had another, more subtle, effect. According to LulzSec tweets, they were annoyed/disappointed by the fact that CCP simply wasn't playing along and shut everything down. So in the end, DDOSing Eve wasn't that much of lulz as they expected it to be. It's like someone scrambling your precious ship and you simply self-destroying the ship. It takes out the fun and you give the attacker the proverbial finger. 2. The community was something to be proud of in the last hours. I wasn't on the forums but anywhere else on the internet, I could only read about slight annoyance from the community. No full-blown rage attacks, no immature statements about how stupid everything is (although the statement itself was everywhere, but just in a mature way), etc. You guys rock (until you blow me to smithereens, then you're just cool). 3. How about we order those guys at CCP some pizza, since they do have to work at night right now for our universe to be running? So right, i didn't find much complains from EVEplayers, the League of Legends players WAS hilarious to read when they raged at this. CCP did the right thing on many grounds for one to prevent personal information to be leaked, two so LulzSec got bored of DDosing them after a while.
Demitrios Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:24:00 - [262] You can ban us, BUT YOU CAN NEVER TAKE OUR BOTNET OF DOOM! FYI, we will be renting out the botnet of doom for 1b per 5mins. Send your orders to Shmak Datash. Thanks, Demi
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:25:00 - [263] Originally by: Uncle AWOL Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold These people, in my own opinion, have a God syndrome. They do those things because they can. They might actually fool themselves into beliving they're "testing the security" or something like twisted that. this happens every now and then. its sad really that people stupe so low as to believe themselves as superior to the rest of us. or theyve all been watching too many movies. :) BTW i wouldnt be surprised if they tried to hack Microsoft any time soon. so i would get rid of any card information on any and all sites. if possible hmmm, would it be worthwhile having special Internet credit cards specially for use on the internets, that expire every few hrs/days, meaning if you shop around all over the place your details expire pretty quickly. (this would be like a security token that spits out new credit card details every few hrs) Any thoughts? __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
JEK3	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:26:00 - [264] Originally by: count sporkula There is a very simple answer for this. sometimes the start of dos - ddos - rddos attack is used to mask other intrusions until they finish and can cover their tracks. it is very wise to remove this possibility before they finish. if they where mucking around in there you want all the tracks you can get... it was perfectly reasonable for them to do this. they get a thumbs up from me. Thank you for your answer count sporkula. That cleared up some things for me. I still think CCP could have added what you said to their statement to make everything clear to the less "PC technical" users. Of one thing I'm still unsure. To me, it looks like the time it took to CCP to tell us our data were secure and not stolen was very short. Can you really come out with that kind of conclusion so quick? Cheers JEK3 Originally by: JEK3 Originally by: Sister Virgin A DOS or Denial of Service attack (most commonly done with a ping flood) is most often completely different than a hacking attempt to breach a database. Why CCP suddenly took credit for making sure credit card data was safe makes no sense, as someone attempting to obtain files would not call attention to themselves with something as stupid and simple as a DOS attack. Two COMPLETELY different things. It sounds like CCP has ****ed someone off big time whom is retaliating by flooding the servers. And CCP to pull some smoke and mirrors has used that to their advantage to try to make themselves look like heros. Some people are not THAT stupid.... Sigh.... Oh and some advice to CCP. Seek some advice and do some research about how eBay and Amazon prevent this. I suspect you can just make your servers ignore pings. That simple. (I hope) To players; Until CCP does that, I predict they could be down for days until law enforcement can intervene. Sucks, I wanted to play today. Cheers Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker I was about to write that when I saw your post Sister Virgin. I cannot put that better ;-) CCP, I think you should really answer to that post, as it contains a few interesting points!
Mike Takumi Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:27:00 - [265] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp. I didn't say a whole corp, just the people who are dumb enough to be seriously trying to claim responsibility for the attack.
Alvani	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:27:00 - [266] You know... I was going to make a post regarding this is more detail, however I will share some info.... Some group called lulzsec is claiming responsibility. They offer their hacking services to people who pay them, and their website contains admin accounts to various game companies (they are proud of their hacking). This claim was made on their twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec) Their website is: http://lulzsecurity.com If you click on "releases" you can find all the account information and passwords for various companies and their admin staff. CCP... USE their claim and sue the pants off them for this. By the way, the corp who owns the following website paid LulzSec to do the attack... At least this is what they claim. http://killboard.atlas-dot.net Their post regarding it taunts a GM to ban them for this.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:29:00 - [267] Originally by: Mike Takumi Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp. I didn't say a whole corp, just the people who are dumb enough to be seriously trying to claim responsibility for the attack. to do it legally... which part of the EULER covers flapping mouth off on forum claiming to have caused DDoS attack? __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:29:00 - [268] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Mike Takumi Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp. I didn't say a whole corp, just the people who are dumb enough to be seriously trying to claim responsibility for the attack. to do it legally... which part of the EULER covers flapping mouth off on forum claiming to have caused DDoS attack? Illegal activities. Ban pending investigation.
topix92	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:30:00 - [269] Originally by: Mike Takumi Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp. I didn't say a whole corp, just the people who are dumb enough to be seriously trying to claim responsibility for the attack. Well the possibility is that your computer can be one of the computers used to make the DEATHBALL OF DDoS. You just dont know it. :D
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:31:00 - [270] Edited by: BeanBagKing on 15/06/2011 01:32:06 I have a suggestion (not that it'll ever happen). We have a lot of people whining for compensation. I don't think we deserve any because a) none of this is CCP's fault b) I'm not the type of person who thinks I'm entitled to anything, especially in a game. and c) periodic unscheduled downtime should be expected by everyone anyway, CCP doesn't award compensation for any of those. However, here's what I say we do. Since it wasn't CCP's fault (point a), then if/when LolSec is ever caught, I'm sure a lot of charges will be thrown at them, and I wouldn't be surprised if CCP's lawyers are doing some of the throwing. They should file a civil suit against them on the consumers (our) behalf at a rate of ($15 /30 days / 24 hours = ) .02 cents per hour for 5 hours of downtime times 500,000 (estimate) accounts which may or may not have been trying to log on, which would be somewhere around $52,000 (if I've done my math right, probably not). Then apply that in game time to all active accounts. Not so much because it's a great amount of time we missed or its a great amount of money for CCP but a front page post that they did it "for the lolz" would be an epic pun and it'd be one more thing to throw at them. For those of you who are now going to poke holes in my math/law knowledge, I'm sure there's plenty and this will never happen, still, have at it if it makes you happy

Usagi Tsukino Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:33:00 - [271] Originally by: Soden Rah hmmm, would it be worthwhile having special Internet credit cards specially for use on the internets, that expire every few hrs/days, meaning if you shop around all over the place your details expire pretty quickly. (this would be like a security token that spits out new credit card details every few hrs) Any thoughts? I don't know where you live, but here in the US you can get 'pre-paid' credit cards at Walmart/Target/check cashing places, etc. Just have to make sure you put enough on them before your billing cycle is up. There isn't any reason they shouldn't work for EVE or any other game because afaik, they are processed just like any other credit card. ___ *Chaotic Dreams*
Salene Gralois K-2	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:33:00 - [272] Originally by: Soden Rah also talking about Amazon and ebay defending themselves... they post profits in the hundreds of millions... they can afford distributed servers and computer security CCP could only dream of. I can't speak for CCP's budget. But you'd be surprised on both of the first 2 you mentioned. Theirs is good, and both Amazon and Ebay have some extremely smart people in their NOC's. Yet even their network is only as strong as their weakest or most neglected link.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:33:00 - [273] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Mike Takumi Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp. I didn't say a whole corp, just the people who are dumb enough to be seriously trying to claim responsibility for the attack. to do it legally... which part of the EULER covers flapping mouth off on forum claiming to have caused DDoS attack? Illegal activities. Ban pending investigation. It's not that I have any problem with them being banned, Heck I would do it just for them being stupid. But it would be nice to do it without any legal backlash to bite CCP in the arse. It just if they turn out to be 12 yr olds flapping their mouths off, and CCP bans them and they go crying to their parents who pay for their accounts... Of course the parents in that situation should clip them round the ear, ground them for a month. and ban them from all computer games for longer... but not all parents are sensible like that. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:34:00 - [274] Well considering how fast it was resolved i don't think it actually matters that much in terms of compensation. They might do something symbolic just to underline the event though. However the server beeing back up already kinna limits the options. Some kind of random "trash" as a reminder to all active accounts perhaps?
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:36:00 - [275] Originally by: Soden Rah It's not that I have any problem with them being banned, Heck I would do it just for them being stupid. But it would be nice to do it without any legal backlash to bite CCP in the arse. It just if they turn out to be 12 yr olds flapping their mouths off, and CCP bans them and they go crying to their parents who pay for their accounts... Of course the parents in that situation should clip them round the ear, ground them for a month. and ban them from all computer games for longer... but not all parents are sensible like that. Pretty sure there wouldn't/couldn't be any legal backlash as part of the EULA says "We can ban you whenever we want for whatever we want, hell, we can just make **** up and ban you for it". I'm pretty sure that's a direct quote, but I'm too lazy to look it up. I might have some words wrong Seriously though, there's nothing you can do if they ban you, your on their game on their server, and they can boot you whenever they feel like it.
Mike Takumi Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:36:00 - [276] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Mike Takumi Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp. I didn't say a whole corp, just the people who are dumb enough to be seriously trying to claim responsibility for the attack. to do it legally... which part of the EULER covers flapping mouth off on forum claiming to have caused DDoS attack? CCP may terminate the EULA, close all your Accounts, and cancel all rights granted to you under the EULA if...(iv) CCP becomes aware of game play, chat or player activity under your Account that is, in CCP's discretion, inappropriate or in violation of the Rules of Conduct. Rules of Conduct: You may not violate any local, state, national or international laws or regulations. (Pretty sure hacking is illegal in the UK) You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. You will not encourage others to break these rules or any rules set forth in relation to EVE OnlineÆs game service or web site.
Tereliss Verr Minmatar Space Tech Solutions PHOENIX REPUBLIC	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:37:00 - [277] Down Again??? Somone frag these sod's!!!!!!!!!!
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:38:00 - [278] Originally by: TwoJohn Edited by: TwoJohn on 15/06/2011 01:23:28 i just wanted to add: you cannot fight ddos by blocking the traffic it causes - because the traffic then already happened! the only way to counter ddos is by filtering/redirecting the traffic on the providers side and/or by shutting down the botnet nodes that cause the traffic! and if the ddos is done right (hate to say that) you cannot do ANYTHING against it but to wait until it stops. Quoted for bringing up that important point, which I forgot. I was thinking more in terms of server, versus the pipe, but TwoJohn's statement is important. Unless we all want to be paying far more in subscription fees, you don't want CCP to use that option either, anyway. And the reality is, no matter how well you prepare/what services you pay for, exactly as he says, if it's done "right" you're toast.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:39:00 - [279] Originally by: Usagi Tsukino Originally by: Soden Rah hmmm, would it be worthwhile having special Internet credit cards specially for use on the internets, that expire every few hrs/days, meaning if you shop around all over the place your details expire pretty quickly. (this would be like a security token that spits out new credit card details every few hrs) Any thoughts? I don't know where you live, but here in the US you can get 'pre-paid' credit cards at Walmart/Target/check cashing places, etc. Just have to make sure you put enough on them before your billing cycle is up. There isn't any reason they shouldn't work for EVE or any other game because afaik, they are processed just like any other credit card. heh, don't live in the US. Not sure if their is an equivalent here. However that doesn't have the same security that my proposal would... That said you would have to put in new details for every bill so it wouldn't be good for making more than one off payments. I don't actually have a problem with my online monetary security. But I don't use stuff like online banking and such, because it isn't secure. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:40:00 - [280] Edited by: Jormungandr Bastanold on 15/06/2011 01:41:02 Well. I need to make sure my credit card info is not kept on file at any given time. (...) Ponders those possibilities...

Antonomon Outcast Heroes	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:40:00 - [281] Well isee the servers are offline yet again why cant these ***heads leave it alone and let us get on with our fun, have they no lives of their own to lead? Fear, Anger, Aggression turn you to the dark side they will.*
Demitrios Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:42:00 - [282] Atlas. Claims responsibility for EVE DDoS.
Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Fearsome Engine	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:42:00 - [283] Well this is becoming frustrating to say the least
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:42:00 - [284] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Well. I need to make sure my credit card info is not kept on file at any given time. and change/lengthen your passwords :-) Just make sure you don't forget them, lost a perfectly good hotmail account that way... It was so secure not even I could log into it. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Donatella D'Tren Harbingers of Chaos Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:44:00 - [285] Thank you for not being ****tards like Sony and dealing with the threat appropriately.
Cyrus Doul E0 Corp	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:45:00 - [286] the entire 141.219.x.x block seems to be having issues, or at least from the machines I and the others on campus that play are. We can hit here but not TQ
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:46:00 - [287] Originally by: Soden Rah lost a perfectly good hotmail account that way... It was so secure not even I could log into it. I've done that to more than one site :( username/password security sucks these days. You're vulnerable if you reuse passwords or use simple passwords, but if you don't, then you're locked out of your own accounts. Your only hope then is to wait till someone hacks that one and releases all the passwords so you can look yours up :)
Jacoba Stalker	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:50:00 - [288] Well done Guys Eternal vigilance is more valuable than good software and ya'll were johnny on the spot. Kudos to you.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:51:00 - [289] Edited by: Soden Rah on 15/06/2011 01:51:30 Originally by: BeanBagKing Originally by: Soden Rah lost a perfectly good hotmail account that way... It was so secure not even I could log into it. I've done that to more than one site :( username/password security sucks these days. You're vulnerable if you reuse passwords or use simple passwords, but if you don't, then you're locked out of your own accounts. Your only hope then is to wait till someone hacks that one and releases all the passwords so you can look yours up :) I find good old fashioned pen and paper works excellently... If someone has broken into your house and is standing in front of your pc, your security is pretty broken anyway ;-) Unless you have real security, ie properly encrypted HDD's, your data is lost anyway. EDIT: plus if you write it down, you can make full use of the 64 char allotment for your pw. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Darvec	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:51:00 - [290] Update @ 01:15 UTC: Tranquility is now online...... Not for me its not, log on, initiate warp, get booted.

Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:52:00 - [291] tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 15 ms 14 ms 11 ms gw2pc.lb.shawcable.net [64.59.131.238] 4 14 ms 15 ms 16 ms rc2so-tge0-3-0-0.cg.shawcable.net [66.163.71.158 ] 5 27 ms 26 ms 27 ms rc2wh-tge0-9-2-0.vc.shawcable.net [66.163.77.162 ] 6 33 ms 32 ms 30 ms rc4wt-pos1-0-0.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.76.2] 7 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete. Warning: This person is a scammer and should not be trusted. ~~Viewer~~ Investor discretion is advised
Cyriel Longinus Caldari XERCORE Indecisive Certainty	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:53:00 - [292] Thank you CCP. Well Done.
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:53:00 - [293] I was booted sometime ago. Server: Tranquility Status: Unknown My location: Midlands, UK. Please let me back in! :o
Fuuka Yamagishi	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:53:00 - [294] Eve down for me, northeast US. Also when I try to file a petition on the website for the probes I'm sure were lost when I was kicked 15 minutes ago, I get this: Oops Something really bad happened and we are really sorry. The server was unable to process your request. Support personel has been notified, no further action is needed. ½ Back
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:53:00 - [295] Originally by: Darvec Update @ 01:15 UTC: Tranquility is now online...... Not for me its not, log on, initiate warp, get booted. their are times when I think we do a pretty good job of DDoS'ing TQ ourselves... 30~60k people all spamming login at once probably causes half the trouble around patch days, and on reboots like atm. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Salene Gralois K-2	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:53:00 - [296] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Well. I need to make sure my credit card info is not kept on file at any given time. and change/lengthen your passwords :-) Just make sure you don't forget them, lost a perfectly good hotmail account that way... It was so secure not even I could log into it. Last time that happened to me (I do tend to use obscure passwords from time to time) it took me 30 minutes to find a workaround using nothing more complex than Google to find the url in the msn network to reset it. It wasn't the easiest thing i've ever done, but it wasn't voodoo either.
Neima Fourwinds	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:55:00 - [297] Both of my clients crashed at the same time with trying to get back in with Sever Status: Unknown Some of my corpmates are having same issues, however most are still online. Restarted my PC and router.
Jita Jenn	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:55:00 - [298] Originally by: Demitrios Atlas. Claims responsibility for EVE DDoS. Enjoy your permaban.
31 49 56659	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:55:00 - [299] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova I was booted sometime ago. Server: Tranquility Status: Unknown My location: Midlands, UK. Please let me back in! :o same issue here, also from the midlands, dunno if thats coincidence though
Merphesh	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:55:00 - [300] Just to confirm some people can access server some can't. Have had two clients booted and cannot re-boot. Other corp members are having same issues and some are still on playing. It has nothing to do with geographical location, so I really don't know WTF is going on

Tereliss Verr Minmatar Space Tech Solutions PHOENIX REPUBLIC	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:56:00 - [301] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova I was booted sometime ago. Server: Tranquility Status: Unknown My location: Midlands, UK. Please let me back in! :o From the UK too SW but the server status site says its online just we cant log in, my Golem is prolly toast by now :(
janet calder	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:56:00 - [302] I played for almost 30 mins then got disconnected. Unable to get back in, server status: unknown I live in Northern US, good thing I placed 2 days worth of skills in my que :)
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:56:00 - [303] "And I'll post it again, some people are still connected (like me) so it isn't CCP so STFU" Honestly Corina's Bodyguard get a clue because YOU can get on to EVE doesn't me it's not CCP issue. Like I said I have NO freaking internet issue other I can't connect to EVE server... Other people at same time reporting same issue almost same time. get a Clue or STFU. Statues unknown still. Also from North East US. North US ------------------------------------
Brutal Dose	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:56:00 - [304] Originally by: Skye Aurorae CCP Soundwave should have knocked on wood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcp7tZ08Hck&t=378s How do we know it wasnt him? He's that kind of guy
Deja Thoris Invicta. Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:56:00 - [305] Originally by: Fuuka Yamagishi Eve down for me, northeast US. Also when I try to file a petition on the website for the probes I'm sure were lost when I was kicked 15 minutes ago, I get this: ½ Back You'd file a petition for losing probes? You're so tight if you stuck a lump of coal up your arse you'd have a diamond pretty soon.
Limitanes Unlimited Blade Works Nulli Tertius	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:56:00 - [306] West coast of Canada here; getting server status: unknown.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:56:00 - [307] Originally by: Salene Gralois Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Well. I need to make sure my credit card info is not kept on file at any given time. and change/lengthen your passwords :-) Just make sure you don't forget them, lost a perfectly good hotmail account that way... It was so secure not even I could log into it. Last time that happened to me (I do tend to use obscure passwords from time to time) it took me 30 minutes to find a workaround using nothing more complex than Google to find the url in the msn network to reset it. It wasn't the easiest thing i've ever done, but it wasn't voodoo either. this was in the days before google... hard as that is to remember... __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Alvani	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:57:00 - [308] Originally by: topix92 Originally by: Mike Takumi Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp. I didn't say a whole corp, just the people who are dumb enough to be seriously trying to claim responsibility for the attack. Well the possibility is that your computer can be one of the computers used to make the DEATHBALL OF DDoS. You just dont know it. :D Not quite true. There is alot of good antivirus programs like Kaspersky which can detect these types of backdoors and block them. There is acutally a way to make sure you are not one of the attacking computers. Now, if someone configured their antivirus to ignore that backdoor.... well then it's their own fault and they should be banned. When protection against having your computer turned into a zombie ddos machine is soooo easily and readily available, you can't claim ignorance on this. And even under worse case scenario.... aka you have no cash to buy antivirus... get AVG... it's free.... crappy in comparison to others but it is at least something.
section 21 Setenta Corp -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:57:00 - [309] Netstat shows this fo me 6 27 ms 29 ms 28 ms chg-s1-rou-1001.US.eurorings.net [206.223.119.95 ] 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * chg-s1-rou-1001.US.eurorings.net [206.223.119.95] report s: Destination host unreachable. others seem to be getting the same thing when they hit anything involving eurorings.net
Saint Lazarus Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:57:00 - [310] Cant connect here, Ireland. Though a friend of mine is still online ----------------- My EvE Comic

Luna's insight	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:58:00 - [311] Server still down? i got kicked/cant log in but all my buddies on vent say its still up o.O
James Kopp	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:00:00 - [312] Was up for about an hour then booted and cannot log back in. Based on what I've seen here I'm thinking CCP might be trying to isolate/filter the malicious traffic and have started by blocking certain ISPs like shawcable, Rogers, whatever ISP is in Midland, UK. I know Shaw & Rogers use "shared" connections between users so if anyone in their network is helping the DDoS attack (as an innocent host to the script that is being used) then CCP needs to block the whole "cluster" of users until the attack is ended.
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:00:00 - [313] Edited by: Ethan Blacknova on 15/06/2011 02:02:59 Edited by: Ethan Blacknova on 15/06/2011 02:01:35 Doing a quick snoop, it seems that whatever this 'Eurorings' is (Assuming it's a DNS server) is on a DNS Blacklist. http://www.robtex.com/dns/eurorings.net.html EDIT: Via the link above, it seems that Eurorings has been blacklisted, due to spam. It seems that Eurorings.net would be a Vector for the Lulz spammers. This makes sense as they are based in France/French nationals. See here: http://www.robtex.com/dns/eurorings.net.html#blacklists
Deezy Jones	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:00:00 - [314] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Fuuka Yamagishi Eve down for me, northeast US. Also when I try to file a petition on the website for the probes I'm sure were lost when I was kicked 15 minutes ago, I get this: ½ Back You'd file a petition for losing probes? You're so tight if you stuck a lump of coal up your arse you'd have a diamond pretty soon. I'm pretty close to having to file a petition for probes. Already lost one set in the second server takedown. If I lose another I'm stranded in WH space.
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:00:00 - [315] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1528169 gets locked when people saying good job? Some threads getting locked for no good reason. ------------------------------------
Soji Kanagawa Caldari 0uter Ring Excavations	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:00:00 - [316] Got kicked off as well, server status unknown.
daddys helper	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:01:00 - [317] says unknown when I try and log in from east coast
Faith Triump	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:01:00 - [318] when i try to log in i crash before i even see the login. re-installing just to be safe.
Salene Gralois K-2	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:01:00 - [319] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Salene Gralois Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Well. I need to make sure my credit card info is not kept on file at any given time. and change/lengthen your passwords :-) Just make sure you don't forget them, lost a perfectly good hotmail account that way... It was so secure not even I could log into it. Last time that happened to me (I do tend to use obscure passwords from time to time) it took me 30 minutes to find a workaround using nothing more complex than Google to find the url in the msn network to reset it. It wasn't the easiest thing i've ever done, but it wasn't voodoo either. this was in the days before google... hard as that is to remember... In that case, i feel your pain. Lost one myself, pre-google.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:01:00 - [320] Originally by: Alvani Originally by: topix92 Originally by: Mike Takumi Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You could be in the corp and inactive for 6 month. I would not ban a whole corp. I didn't say a whole corp, just the people who are dumb enough to be seriously trying to claim responsibility for the attack. Well the possibility is that your computer can be one of the computers used to make the DEATHBALL OF DDoS. You just dont know it. :D Not quite true. There is alot of good antivirus programs like Kaspersky which can detect these types of backdoors and block them. There is acutally a way to make sure you are not one of the attacking computers. Now, if someone configured their antivirus to ignore that backdoor.... well then it's their own fault and they should be banned. When protection against having your computer turned into a zombie ddos machine is soooo easily and readily available, you can't claim ignorance on this. And even under worse case scenario.... aka you have no cash to buy antivirus... get AVG... it's free.... crappy in comparison to others but it is at least something. I prefer Avast, it has more features in the free version. and has a nice silent running mode which I like. But its good to back it up with other brands that you don't run all the time, but use occasionally for full system scans, all of them have failings but they usually cover each others blanks. Then use a proper web browser like FireFox, and use add/script/cookie blockers, have a good firewall... and then apply common sense. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function

Debolul	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:03:00 - [321] I can't connect either. Romania.
MrGarak Caldari Zar'rocc Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:03:00 - [322] Edited by: MrGarak on 15/06/2011 02:04:07 Originally by: Saint Lazarus Cant connect here, Ireland. Though a friend of mine is still online Same here mate.. It would not be a shame if these guys are promptly caught and strung up by their ghoulies.
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:03:00 - [323] Regarding not being able to connect now (I'm unable to as well). The 'Net is sort of a wacky place (logically/topology wise, I mean), your neighbour and you may get connected to the server through a completely different route. So whatever is happening now is likely upstream somewhere from CCP. If it's just a router going down, it should rectify itself in a while. If it's an ISP on the backbone going crazy/paranoid (which they have done at times) after the attacks, it may take a while longer =P
Rakamy	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:04:00 - [324] My guess would be It's down along the eastern sea board of North America, I am on the east cost of Canada and cant get logged in as well. All I know is I would like be compensated in SP for this. If CCP wont do it for everyone I will try launching a petition to get mine reimbursed. That said this is not a rage post of any sort, CCP did a good job catching this one before it got out of hand. I have not dought they will be pulling an all nigher to get things running smoothly. I would join in on ordering them some take-out (or take-a-way if you like) but not sure that any place in Iceland does online ordering. Keep up the good work guys and hope everything gets sorted soon.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:05:00 - [325] You would not belive how hard it is to remove all your credit card information. It is just not possible in some cases and in others there is no password recovery avaliable to even try.
Pastall	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:06:00 - [326] I'm in new Zealand... kicked too.
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:06:00 - [327] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Edited by: Ethan Blacknova on 15/06/2011 02:02:59 Edited by: Ethan Blacknova on 15/06/2011 02:01:35 Doing a quick snoop, it seems that whatever this 'Eurorings' is (Assuming it's a DNS server) is on a DNS Blacklist. http://www.robtex.com/dns/eurorings.net.html EDIT: Via the link above, it seems that Eurorings has been blacklisted, due to spam. It seems that Eurorings.net would be a Vector for the Lulz spammers. This makes sense as they are based in France/French nationals. See here: http://www.robtex.com/dns/eurorings.net.html#blacklists Quoting myself to draw attention. With a touch of investigation, I think that one of the main routes for people to connect to Tranquility has been blacklisted; Ergo: We cannot connect. Try refreshing/flushing your DNS to resolve.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:06:00 - [328] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You would not belive how hard it is to remove all your credit card information. It is just not possible in some cases and in others there is no password recovery avaliable to even try. cancel credit card, get new credit card... win? Yes I know its a hassle.. but its 100% effective. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Mikiael Sedition Theory	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:06:00 - [329] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLv6Jw-RsoY ------------------------------------------------- [Sig]Insert Cool Phrase and or Picture here[/Sig] ------------------------------------------------- That was my sig there are many like it but that
Salene Gralois K-2	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:06:00 - [330] Originally by: Soden Rah I prefer Avast, it has more features in the free version. and has a nice silent running mode which I like. But its good to back it up with other brands that you don't run all the time, but use occasionally for full system scans, all of them have failings but they usually cover each others blanks. Then use a proper web browser like FireFox, and use add/script/cookie blockers, have a good firewall... and then apply common sense. Even though i prefer Opera as browser: everything he said.

Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:08:00 - [331] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You would not belive how hard it is to remove all your credit card information. It is just not possible in some cases and in others there is no password recovery avaliable to even try. cancel credit card, get new credit card... win? Yes I know its a hassle.. but its 100% effective. You know what?? i think i will.
jowming	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:09:00 - [332] central us here cant connect
Tereliss Verr Minmatar Space Tech Solutions PHOENIX REPUBLIC	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:09:00 - [333] Unable to connect to the selected server. Please check the address and try again. Think I may shut down dissconect from the net and do a full virus scan
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:10:00 - [334] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You would not belive how hard it is to remove all your credit card information. It is just not possible in some cases and in others there is no password recovery avaliable to even try. cancel credit card, get new credit card... win? Yes I know its a hassle.. but its 100% effective. You know what?? i think i will. Just be aware that things like that can effect your credit rating and/or get you into issues which involve the phrase "unusual behaviour".
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:11:00 - [335] Originally by: Salene Gralois Originally by: Soden Rah I prefer Avast, it has more features in the free version. and has a nice silent running mode which I like. But its good to back it up with other brands that you don't run all the time, but use occasionally for full system scans, all of them have failings but they usually cover each others blanks. Then use a proper web browser like FireFox, and use add/script/cookie blockers, have a good firewall... and then apply common sense. Even though i prefer Opera as browser: everything he said. Usually NOT IE works ;-) Also if you're on AOL..... Well let me put it this way, when my Fathers company decided to roll out Broadband to all the partners and he asked if we could shop around rather than just go with the recommended BT (who were expensive) ... They said yeah sure.... Just not AOL... They weren't prepared to allow anyone on AOL connect to their network... __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Neima Fourwinds	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:11:00 - [336] It's been a while now, can we get an official CCP response to these current server unknown status issues?
Colonel STFU The Knights Templar Strategic Operations Brigade	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:12:00 - [337] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Edited by: Ethan Blacknova on 15/06/2011 02:02:59 Edited by: Ethan Blacknova on 15/06/2011 02:01:35 Doing a quick snoop, it seems that whatever this 'Eurorings' is (Assuming it's a DNS server) is on a DNS Blacklist. http://www.robtex.com/dns/eurorings.net.html EDIT: Via the link above, it seems that Eurorings has been blacklisted, due to spam. It seems that Eurorings.net would be a Vector for the Lulz spammers. This makes sense as they are based in France/French nationals. See here: http://www.robtex.com/dns/eurorings.net.html#blacklists Quoting myself to draw attention. With a touch of investigation, I think that one of the main routes for people to connect to Tranquility has been blacklisted; Ergo: We cannot connect. Try refreshing/flushing your DNS to resolve. Does not resolve.. Also, the IP address I am connecting to is the same as everyone else who is able to connect so, that leads to either a bad node in the balancer or, blocking of known bad IP ranges/hosts.. Just my .02 -Colonel STFU
section 21 Setenta Corp -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:13:00 - [338] Edited by: section 21 on 15/06/2011 02:13:35 Open a command prompt and type netstat 87.237.38.200 I'll bet you everyone not connecting will get destination host unreachable from somewhere on the eurorings network just like the guy above me is saying. eurorings is owned and run by KPN International Network Services. They operate a large Fiber optic network. I don't know if that blacklist is whats causing it as some of the blacklist records go back to march 2009. But this company seems to be a major part of European Backbone.
Graic Valente Gallente Valente Galactic Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:13:00 - [339] As per CCP's request: So much rage for such a small amount of time lost on the scale of things. Very rarely is EVE unavailable for people whose prime time gaming hour is about now. Whereas people with a prime time gaming time nearer to DT have to experience DT (which is just luck of the draw) but also have to put up with upgrades, patches of patches and extended DTs for server start up failures. These things happen, but any forum griping results in howls of contempt from others posting from other time zones. Insults and all types of abusive comments fly where the default position is personal attack without consideration for the frustrations of others. So I have sat here watching all this unholy rage unfold in front of this as for the first time a group unable to play for the first time in what must be a very, very long time post in a manner that makes me wonder why CCP even bother to keep the forum open. People who is the Oceanic region who have had patch after patch and extended DT for months don't rage for free skill points, nor demand compensation for lost gaming time. I could simply repeat all the usual comments that in our geography receive to you if we even mention extended outages, but I won't. Just remember how you feel now when we lose several evenings of play for your benefit and dare to complain.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:13:00 - [340] Yeah, there's a few people who are still having connection issues from my corp, from pretty much all over US/Canada. _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.

Aloe Cloveris The Greater Goon	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:13:00 - [341] Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 15/06/2011 02:15:46 Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 15/06/2011 02:14:06 From Ottawa, Canada tracert is giving me this: 1. router 2. modem 3. hoppity 4. hoppity 5. hop ... blahblahblah 8. chg-21-rou-1001.US.eurorings.net [206.233.119.95] reports: Destination host unreachable So it's dying in Chicago before its transatlantic hop or somesiht if I'm reading this right?
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:14:00 - [342] Originally by: Katrina Raskin Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold You would not belive how hard it is to remove all your credit card information. It is just not possible in some cases and in others there is no password recovery avaliable to even try. cancel credit card, get new credit card... win? Yes I know its a hassle.. but its 100% effective. You know what?? i think i will. Just be aware that things like that can effect your credit rating and/or get you into issues which involve the phrase "unusual behaviour". not if you tell the company you have lost the card, please cancel and send replacement. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
A'Brantox Foson Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:15:00 - [343] I have it on good authority we have an outage of some sort...ie: no chance loggin in for some for an indefinate amount of time, all completely unbiased and not stressy like. Buggery!!
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:15:00 - [344] Looks fine to me...
Mak Gruber Lone Star Privateers Drop the Hammer	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:16:00 - [345] This is fallout from Sony.....whom they are attacking.... getting in Bed with Sony made you guys a target. The wikilinks guy getting detained in Iceland is a strawman
Tereliss Verr Minmatar Space Tech Solutions PHOENIX REPUBLIC	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:17:00 - [346] Originally by: Graic Valente As per CCP's request: So much rage for such a small amount of time lost on the scale of things. Very rarely is EVE unavailable for people whose prime time gaming hour is about now. Whereas people with a prime time gaming time nearer to DT have to experience DT (which is just luck of the draw) but also have to put up with upgrades, patches of patches and extended DTs for server start up failures. These things happen, but any forum griping results in howls of contempt from others posting from other time zones. Insults and all types of abusive comments fly where the default position is personal attack without consideration for the frustrations of others. So I have sat here watching all this unholy rage unfold in front of this as for the first time a group unable to play for the first time in what must be a very, very long time post in a manner that makes me wonder why CCP even bother to keep the forum open. People who is the Oceanic region who have had patch after patch and extended DT for months don't rage for free skill points, nor demand compensation for lost gaming time. I could simply repeat all the usual comments that in our geography receive to you if we even mention extended outages, but I won't. Just remember how you feel now when we lose several evenings of play for your benefit and dare to complain. Here Here well said and put
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:17:00 - [347] Originally by: A'Brantox Foson I have it on good authority we have an outage of some sort...ie: no chance loggin in for some for an indefinate amount of time, all completely unbiased and not stressy like. DDoS attacks by their very nature tend to stress out all the pipes around/leading to the target server. That coupled with the potential for ISP's to get overzealous in banning IP's .... __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
IsoMetricanTaliac 2 Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:18:00 - [348] Edited by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2 on 15/06/2011 02:21:12 I find it interesting that the EVE cluster it's self is now also a target of DDOS. (Something that has been happening to many alliances/coalitions Forums/TS etc for a long time when facing certain entities) Isn't taking part in these types of activities against the law? Yes it is also interesting that Sony's gaming Network is attacked & not all that long after CCP announces that it will be going PS3 exclusively for it's upcoming release it also becomes the target of an attack. With any luck this might be the straw that breaks the horses back & CCP will move to stamp out completely all the RMT'ing & other illegal crap that is going on within it's gaming network. I am not sure who would be behind the attack but I know like many others that this is not the first time this sort of tactic has been used against players of EVE. Here's hoping it's stopped before too much longer.... As for credit cards, I have always had a policy of flat refusing to use a credit card over the internet & each & every time something like this happens I know that I have nothing to worry about which saves a whole lot of stress etc. (Virtual credit cards or pre-paid ones work very well & make buying things at least 65% safer.... In a Time When Many Will Seek Death, There Will Always Be Those Like Me Who Won't Mind Helping Them Along Their Way!?!
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:19:00 - [349] Heh... Odds are, if you get that "error" your computer was a zombie going for CCP brains... Do your windows update and try again later.
OilSlick Rick Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:19:00 - [350] CCP Wrangler screwed up by locking this thread and telling people to come here to discuss. It has absolutely nothing to do with today's attack.

Lilith Iyapo	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:19:00 - [351] Can't log in from east coast US. Skill training about to expire....
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:19:00 - [352] Originally by: Tereliss Verr Originally by: Graic Valente As per CCP's request: So much rage for such a small amount of time lost on the scale of things. Very rarely is EVE unavailable for people whose prime time gaming hour is about now. Whereas people with a prime time gaming time nearer to DT have to experience DT (which is just luck of the draw) but also have to put up with upgrades, patches of patches and extended DTs for server start up failures. These things happen, but any forum griping results in howls of contempt from others posting from other time zones. Insults and all types of abusive comments fly where the default position is personal attack without consideration for the frustrations of others. So I have sat here watching all this unholy rage unfold in front of this as for the first time a group unable to play for the first time in what must be a very, very long time post in a manner that makes me wonder why CCP even bother to keep the forum open. People who is the Oceanic region who have had patch after patch and extended DT for months don't rage for free skill points, nor demand compensation for lost gaming time. I could simply repeat all the usual comments that in our geography receive to you if we even mention extended outages, but I won't. Just remember how you feel now when we lose several evenings of play for your benefit and dare to complain. Here Here well said and put I hope the people whining are trolling... trolling is a very fun part about the game...if they're really sad about not beign able to play internet spaceships for a day or two they got problems.. trolling? good man to man hijinx... sorta like snapping with the towel in the locker room
Rykuss	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:19:00 - [353] Can we has a t-shirt that says "I survived teh lulz" for our avatars please? I'd totally effin' buy that!
Alvani	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:20:00 - [354] Able to login again. Unsure about stability.
Dibs Shrateor	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:21:00 - [355] Well it is more then being booted off when trying to log for me. Aything Eve, in google search did not load. I also now am gettine an error in the exe. file saying it may be corrupted, or modified. Please use the repair exe. to fix. Well now I ran the repair file over a dozen times, My Virus protection said it was safe, and I was told eve was successfully repaired each time. Well not for me, I still get that same error everytime I try to log in. My server is up, now, but am unable to log on my end still. So all the traing I was planing on doing today I can not, hell, I do not even know if my traing was successful from yesterday, cause I can not log in. If I have to reinstall all Eve again, do to the servers crashing, well, I may just move onto another game. Getting late here, so after work tommorrow, going to see if it will take several hours to download the client again. If it does, then I am done with Eve. It was fun while it lasted but this corrupted issue, from a server crash on Eves end is unacceptable. Will see tomorrow. Peace!
David M Draiman	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:21:00 - [356] Can't connect either...really sucks.
Annika Ocada	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:21:00 - [357] Lettuce be cereal .. I was having all this crashing and logging in problems before this 'attack'.
Onodanger Vegeta Minmatar Quarks LLC	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:21:00 - [358] Great day, for come back of my holidays :(
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:22:00 - [359] alright, its getting very annoying now, i got D/C'd around an hour ago, having just lost a domi, i want to get back and fit a new one, i've reset all my hardware and the software, so CCP its now in your court, all i want is my game back, and a replacement domi, but unfortuatly im not covered by the reimbursement policy for personal hardware/client failure, so it sucks to be me therebut none the less, if you would so kindly return me to the service i am paying you for i will be along my merry way
Colonel STFU The Knights Templar Strategic Operations Brigade	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:22:00 - [360] Originally by: section 21 Edited by: section 21 on 15/06/2011 02:13:35 Open a command prompt and type netstat 87.237.38.200 I'll bet you everyone not connecting will get destination host unreachable from somewhere on the eurorings network just like the guy above me is saying. eurorings is owned and run by KPN International Network Services. They operate a large Fiber optic network. I don't know if that blacklist is whats causing it as some of the blacklist records go back to march 2009. But this company seems to be a major part of European Backbone. Did you perhaps mean tracert instead of netstat? And interestingly enough my Dest Host Unreachable is the first jump out of roadrunners nyc node..

Zora'e Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:23:00 - [361] Internet is being a bit dodgy for me. Not worth risking a ship over. Gonna grab a beer, cruise over to the DVR and play all those episodes of Initial D I missed while playing EVE. To CCP: Good luck guys. I'd rather the servers be down, than my data get compromised. Hope things get worked out soon. o/ Zora'e -
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:23:00 - [362] Investigation indicates one of the following outcomes is to blame: 1] CCP are denying connections via Eutorings. Statistically, the LulzSec attack, centred in france, was likely to exploit the Eurorings network as Eurorings is a massive provider of Net Routing/Fibreoptic connectivity/DNS Host Servers. Because of this, blocking incoming activity from it's main source seems like a good temporary patch, but kicks us off. 2] Eurorings are denying connections to CCP. Statistically, the LulzSec attack, centred in france, was likely to exploit the Eurorings network as Eurorings is a massive provider of Net Routing/Fibreoptic connectivity/DNS Host Servers. Eurorings, seeing this, decided to blacklist connections via it's service that end at CCP. 3] Both of the Above. There's only two things we can do. Proxy our way in, Or wait.
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:23:00 - [363] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Katrina Raskin Just be aware that things like that can effect your credit rating and/or get you into issues which involve the phrase "unusual behaviour". not if you tell the company you have lost the card, please cancel and send replacement. Huh, I thought losing a card got recorded as well, but my information is second hand, so, that works then.
Zetler Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:24:00 - [364] *.UK.eurorings.net reports: Destination net unreachable.
GX307	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:25:00 - [365] 8 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable
temp5768	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:25:00 - [366] Originally by: Colonel STFU Originally by: section 21 Edited by: section 21 on 15/06/2011 02:13:35 Open a command prompt and type netstat 87.237.38.200 I'll bet you everyone not connecting will get destination host unreachable from somewhere on the eurorings network just like the guy above me is saying. eurorings is owned and run by KPN International Network Services. They operate a large Fiber optic network. I don't know if that blacklist is whats causing it as some of the blacklist records go back to march 2009. But this company seems to be a major part of European Backbone. lol ya i do, I originally had the steps writen out to get the login servers ip address with netstat but I shortened it and cut the wrong parts :P Did you perhaps mean tracert instead of netstat? And interestingly enough my Dest Host Unreachable is the first jump out of roadrunners nyc node..
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:25:00 - [367] Edited by: SilKKZ the3rd on 15/06/2011 02:27:06 Mine fails here 9 rt2-rou-1022.NL.eurorings.net [134.222.199.137] reports: Destination net u nreachable. Dont know why my connection is going to the netherlands. If the servers a based in London, and they do happen to use a Virgin Media Pipe I dont see why I am blocked. But anyways while I accept DDos is not a issue with CCP, it would appear more damage has been done than there letting on. I dont mind technical problems, but updates even if slight would put us all to calm. Thats one thing that gripes me about CCP is how slow they are to respond to customers rages. If my phone service goes down and I call BT to ask why I usually get an answer even if its there is a fault at exchange X and an engineer is on his way. A simple DDos should not be causeing this amount of mahem
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:26:00 - [368] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Investigation indicates one of the following outcomes is to blame: 1] CCP are denying connections via Eutorings. Statistically, the LulzSec attack, centred in france, was likely to exploit the Eurorings network as Eurorings is a massive provider of Net Routing/Fibreoptic connectivity/DNS Host Servers. Because of this, blocking incoming activity from it's main source seems like a good temporary patch, but kicks us off. 2] Eurorings are denying connections to CCP. Statistically, the LulzSec attack, centred in france, was likely to exploit the Eurorings network as Eurorings is a massive provider of Net Routing/Fibreoptic connectivity/DNS Host Servers. Eurorings, seeing this, decided to blacklist connections via it's service that end at CCP. 3] Both of the Above. There's only two things we can do. Proxy our way in, Or wait. Quote/Edit: Note that Eurorings is a massive network, the largest in europe, and stretches from France to the Slavics.
Alucard Shadows	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:26:00 - [369] Originally by: Zetler *.UK.eurorings.net reports: Destination net unreachable. 5 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable. Cut off at the same point I belive
Turrell 1 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:26:00 - [370] CCP please give an update on why so many players cant get in.

yarasta Armer	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:27:00 - [371] doesn't look like I'll be able to connect for a while, got kicked and then the same as everyone else on login screen. London UK here.
BigBob Bocephus	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:27:00 - [372] Edited by: BigBob Bocephus on 15/06/2011 02:29:05 Sounds to me like they've blocked a bunch of North American IP blocks, probably because that's where the attack is coming from. Their ISP will hold that block until the crap traffic wanes, most like... Glad I have a long skill training...Exhumers V here I come! Edit: nI'm east coast US...London also? hmm, maybe english-speaking botnet?
Saatori Bears Holdings Brave Bears' Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:27:00 - [373] while (true) { ping eveonline.com } The End of EVE
Idahobo	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:28:00 - [374] Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong. Well I posted this I must be connected to the internet.... Target Name: 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc IP: 87.237.38.200 Date/Time: 6/14/2011 7:25:51 PM to 6/14/2011 7:26:10 PM Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / [IP] 1 12 0 0.0 9 13 10 CPE-76-178-178-1.natnow.res.rr.com [76.178.178.1] 2 12 0 0.0 7 37 12 gig5-0-0.cralid-rtr1.natnow.rr.com [65.28.216.213] 3 12 0 0.0 16 34 22 ge-2-0-0.cr0.sea20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.86] 4 11 0 0.0 34 73 40 ge-3-3-0.cr0.sjc10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.12] 5 11 0 0.0 35 75 42 ae-0-0.pr0.sjc10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.141] 6 11 0 0.0 38 127 66 sjca-s1-rou-1001.US.eurorings.net [134.222.248.37] 7 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 8 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 9 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 10 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 11 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 12 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 13 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 14 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 15 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 16 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 17 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 18 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 19 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 20 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 21 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 22 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 23 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 24 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 25 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 26 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 27 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 28 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 29 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 30 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 31 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 32 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 33 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 34 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] 35 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-] Destination not reached in 35 hops
Turrell 1 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:28:00 - [375] Luckily I set a long que before i got kicked...
Templar Knightsbane	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:29:00 - [376] Edited by: Templar Knightsbane on 15/06/2011 02:31:42 im in the uk what the heck has france got to do with me? im gettin sick of this i know this isnt particularly CCP fault, but, if they had bta security, along with patches, i might have been able to play my fauvorite game the past fornight, in fact i've had to upgrade my memory coz of a patch, along with a grpaihcs card by the 21st June, and now i cant login coz some ****head is just spamming msg's as far as i can tell cant u just make the systems ignore those msg's?
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:29:00 - [377] Can we have a tracert that actually works, just to prove is eurorings thats the problem?
Aeryn Cypher	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:29:00 - [378] Originally by: Vala Malderran Some may have also noticed that as of this post you cant change your password. This furthers my suspicions that our personal data to some degree has been compromised. Maybe you're just doing it wrong. I changed mine without problem.
Ghana Rhea	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:29:00 - [379] Can't login. East Coast US. Oh....and my balls itch real bad.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:30:00 - [380] Originally by: Katrina Raskin Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Katrina Raskin Just be aware that things like that can effect your credit rating and/or get you into issues which involve the phrase "unusual behaviour". not if you tell the company you have lost the card, please cancel and send replacement. Huh, I thought losing a card got recorded as well, but my information is second hand, so, that works then. people lose stuff all the time... I am sure they record all kinds of stuff. but they are not going to alter your credit Rating if you lose your card... If you lost it once a month though... I wouldn't recommend making a habit of it, but if you're online data has spiralled out of control, and you can't even remember all the places that have your details let along be able to delete all of them (assuming they let you, and the data is actually deleted) then killing it at source, by invalidating the card works. You might be able to just say to your credit card company that that is what you are trying to achieve. How they would take it however is an open question. Then again I took the step of telling my bank that I would never ever use online or phone banking services, and to put a note on my account saying that was the case, and if anyone ever tried to set up phone or internet banking on the accounts... it wasn't me. So they know I'm weird. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function

Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:30:00 - [381] I'll do a tracert that works. Just tell me how.
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:30:00 - [382] Edited by: Brock Nelson on 15/06/2011 02:30:39 Please continue the discussion in this forum thread. Oh wait... Warning: This person is a scammer and should not be trusted. ~~Viewer~~ Investor discretion is advised
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:31:00 - [383] Originally by: Templar Knightsbane im in the uk what the heck has france got to do with me? It's quite possib;e that your connection is still routed to CCP via the EuroRings network. If Eurorings touches CCP, your connection may be routed through it. Thus, trouble.
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:32:00 - [384] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold I'll do a tracert that works. Just tell me how. tracert 87.237.38.200 put that into a command prompt
Luna's insight	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:32:00 - [385] Any official word on why some cannot log into the servers? my friends are logged in running missions. Kinda Erked as to the fact the servers are supposedly up yet i still cannot log in.
Turrell 1 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:32:00 - [386] Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. Update: Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible. Update @ 01:15 UTC: Tranquility is now dieing. An update has been published to this news post. Fixed...
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:32:00 - [387] Since CCP decided to crowd us all in here to muffle the different aspects even though many of us had started threads long before this one... DDOS - Do your part! Hopefully you (EVE players) took the 6 hour downtime to let the virus checker complete its background scan of your system. No? Didn't do that? Don't be a Zombie!!! Run Anti-virus and Trojan checking programs (and anything else legit) now and make sure you are not part of the DDOS problem. But- be very careful of where you get these programs - remember the recent Apple lesson. Don't think it's you? - a friend found 3 Trojans on his comp today - after scanning clean yesterday.
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:33:00 - [388] Originally by: Turrell 1 Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. Update: Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible. Update @ 01:15 UTC: Tranquility is now dying. An update has been published to this news post. Fixed... Fixed.
Saatori Bears Holdings Brave Bears' Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:33:00 - [389] DDoS -> cluster shutdown LOL and WTF?! Maybe: truth
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:33:00 - [390] Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\quigglebert> C:\Users\quigglebert>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.0.1] 2 31 ms 24 ms 24 ms bm0.eabse-dhcp.isp.sky.com [90.212.58.126] 3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10.245.166.33 4 27 ms 25 ms 26 ms te0-6-0-7.er11.thlon.ov.easynet.net [89.200.134. 223] 5 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete. C:\Users\quigglebert>

Rhivre Caldari TarNec	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:33:00 - [391] Tracert (via http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=express&host=87.237.38.200) Whois (IDN Conversion Tool) Express DNS Records (Advanced Tool) Network Lookup Spam Blacklist Check Convert Base-10 to IP URL Decode URL Encode HTTP Headers SSL Email Verification IP address: 87.237.38.200 Host name: 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc 87.237.38.200 is from Iceland(IS) in region Scandinavia TraceRoute to 87.237.38.200 [200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc] Hop(ms)(ms)(ms) IP AddressHost name 1 0 0 0 8.9.232.73 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net 2 0 0 0 4.69.145.254 vlan90.csw4.dallas1.level3.net 3 0 0 0 4.69.151.170 ae-93-93.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net 4 20 20 20 4.69.134.22 ae-7-7.ebr3.atlanta2.level3.net 5 20 22 20 4.69.148.242 ae-63-63.ebr1.atlanta2.level3.net 6 31 31 31 4.69.148.106 ae-6-6.ebr1.washington12.level3.net 7 31 32 31 4.69.143.214 ae-1-100.ebr2.washington12.level3.net 8 36 36 36 4.69.148.49 - 9 105 105 105 4.69.137.65 ae-41-41.ebr2.london1.level3.net 10 114 211 223 4.69.139.102 ae-25-52.car5.london1.level3.net 11 107 107 107 212.187.160.66 packet-exch.car5.london1.level3.net 12 105 105 105 87.237.36.26 26.36.237.87.rev.ccp.cc 13 105 105 105 87.237.38.200 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc Trace complete
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:33:00 - [392] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Originally by: Templar Knightsbane im in the uk what the heck has france got to do with me? It's quite possib;e that your connection is still routed to CCP via the EuroRings network. If Eurorings touches CCP, your connection may be routed through it. Thus, trouble. also if the network you connect to ccp over uses the same balcklist as EuroRings..... __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:35:00 - [393] =P A DDoS is very rarely a simple thing, especially with the after effects that occur. And very often, ISP's will go for the extreme response and scale back later, rather than do incremental responses... Which makes sense, even if it is a pain. It may appear simple because you don't "see" the effects personally often or the various things that happen in the background, but yeah. And also, the chances that CCP would have anything meaningful to say about this approach zero, since it would be completely out of their control and it's unlikely they'd be able to get any info themselves. Like asking the guy pumping your gas why the price is so high =P
Alvani	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:36:00 - [394] Originally by: SilKKZ the3rd Can we have a tracert that actually works, just to prove is eurorings thats the problem? Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms PRHHR2 [192.168.1.1] 2 52 ms 25 ms 25 ms L400.PLSPCA-DSL-01.verizon-gni.net [66.12.32.1] 3 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms P0-2.PLSPCA-LCR-01.verizon-gni.net [130.81.34.204] 4 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms so-0-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.22.52] 5 32 ms 32 ms 31 ms 0.so-6-3-0.XT1.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.153] 6 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL3.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.53] 7 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms TenGigE0-4-1-0.GW4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.115.178] 8 36 ms 31 ms 32 ms teliasonera-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.21.42] 9 102 ms 102 ms 103 ms ash-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.246.70] 10 177 ms 182 ms 178 ms ldn-bb2-link.telia.net [213.248.65.209] 11 178 ms 178 ms 201 ms ldn-b3-link.telia.net [80.91.251.237] 12 180 ms 180 ms 181 ms eveonline-ic-138015-ldn-b3.c.telia.net [213.248.83.198] 13 178 ms 178 ms 178 ms 248.36.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.36.248] 14 178 ms 178 ms 185 ms 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] Trace complete.
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:36:00 - [395] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Originally by: Templar Knightsbane im in the uk what the heck has france got to do with me? It's quite possib;e that your connection is still routed to CCP via the EuroRings network. If Eurorings touches CCP, your connection may be routed through it. Thus, trouble. also if the network you connect to ccp over uses the same balcklist as EuroRings..... Precisely. You might not understand the phyics behind laser recoil (Radiation pressure), but you know a bit more about internetz. Hi5.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:36:00 - [396] Microsoft Windows [version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Tous droits rTservTs. DTtermination de l'itinTraire vers 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] avec un maximum de 30 sautsá: 1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1 2 11 ms 9 ms 7 ms 10.8.136.1 3 10 ms 10 ms 11 ms 10.170.162.9 4 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms 216.113.123.125 5 9 ms 9 ms 21 ms 216.113.123.145 6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 216.113.122.90 7 13 ms 11 ms 10 ms if-3-0.mcore3.MTT-Montreal.as6453.net [216.6.114 .1] 8 98 ms 99 ms 120 ms if-10-1-0-0.tcore1.PVU-Paris.as6453.net [80.231. 153.17] 9 102 ms 109 ms 97 ms if-2-2.tcore1.PYE-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.154.1 8] 10 114 ms 98 ms 97 ms if-5-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.130. 1] 11 97 ms 99 ms 98 ms if-13-0-0-702.core4.LDN-London.as6453.net [80.23 1.130.22] 12 99 ms 99 ms 99 ms ix-12-0-0-3046.core4.LDN-London.as6453.net [195. 219.67.246] 13 98 ms 98 ms 100 ms 26.36.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.36.26] 14 100 ms 99 ms 98 ms 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] ItinTraire dTterminT. Please note i hope i'm not helping cause another of those. There's multiple people with a problem here.
MasterZero	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:36:00 - [397] Shut the servers down and keep them down untill after the next maint is done
Dirty Weegie	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:36:00 - [398] 5 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable.
Jita Jenn	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:36:00 - [399] Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254 2 35 ms 34 ms * b-ras1.rtd.sligo.eircom.net [159.134.155.25] 3 34 ms 33 ms 34 ms ge-4-1-3.pe1.rtd.rsl-rtd.eircom.net [86.43.246.249] 4 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms tenge-6-1-1.core2.bdt.core.eircom.net [86.43.253.9] 5 36 ms 37 ms 37 ms lag-1.core1.bdt.core.eircom.net [86.43.252.1] 6 51 ms 53 ms 51 ms tenge-1-2-1.pe1.thn.the-thn.eircom.net [86.43.253.82] 7 62 ms 52 ms 50 ms ge7-1-0.corea.thn.london.eircom.net [86.43.244.194] 8 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete.
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:38:00 - [400] Originally by: MasterZero Shut the servers down and keep them down untill after the next maint is done hear hear, atleast it'd let us european players get some downtime knowing that we cant play for a discernable reason

Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:38:00 - [401] V²pis trasy k 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] s nejv²Üe 30 směrovßnfmi: ----- snip ---- 6 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms Ae0-0-grtprach1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net.7.1 6.84.in-addr.arpa [84.16.7.29] 7 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms Xe3-3-0-0-grtpartv1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net .121.142.94.in-addr.arpa [94.142.121.30] 8 40 ms 35 ms 35 ms Teleglobe-1-3-0-0-grtpartv1.red.telefonica-whole sale.net [213.140.55.22] 9 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms if-10-13.tcore1.PVU-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.153 .5] 10 40 ms 39 ms 49 ms if-2-2.tcore1.PYE-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.154.1 8] 11 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms if-5-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.130. 1] 12 62 ms 39 ms 40 ms if-12-0-0.mcore3.LDN-London.as6453.net [195.219. 195.29] 13 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms if-0-0-0.core4.LDN-London.as6453.net [195.219.19 5.150] 14 39 ms 40 ms 39 ms ix-12-0-0-3045.core4.LDN-London.as6453.net [195. 219.67.242] 15 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms 250.36.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.36.250] 16 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] as requested....
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:38:00 - [402] I think we can safely say eurorings is the problem. Bit of a bummer Virgin Media uses eurorings lol. Probably the cheaper route to use.
Crunchmeister Gallente Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:38:00 - [403] Eastern Ontario, Canada, and also got booted about an hour ago. Also getting the "unknown" status. Yet all my corp-mates seem to be online. Would be great to hear a comment from CCP on this rather than "all is well" which is the last word from them.
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:39:00 - [404] Edited by: cpu939 on 15/06/2011 02:39:34 tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] 2 9 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.129.192.1 3 7 ms 11 ms 9 ms grth-geam-1a-v15.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.251.161] 4 16 ms 18 ms 20 ms sgyl-core-1a-tenge72.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.251.45] 5 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms manc-bb-1c-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.90] 6 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms manc-bb-1a-ae11-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.85] 7 25 ms 20 ms 21 ms glfd-bb-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.146] 8 23 ms 24 ms 26 ms glfd-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.46] 9 22 ms 22 ms 25 ms tcl5-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.78] 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. yes I know virgin media lol
Spiezor	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:39:00 - [405] Edited by: Spiezor on 15/06/2011 02:39:24 basically anyone who has any eurorings on their route is screwed, it has nothing at all to do with CCP
sertyj	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:39:00 - [406] Please continue the discussion in this forum thread
ViperVixen	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:39:00 - [407] Latin America (Costa Rica and friends in Panama) we are just getting Server Status: Unknown at login screen. Yet I see 24,000 + players online so really annoying.
Rokokoko	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:39:00 - [408] Edited by: Rokokoko on 15/06/2011 02:44:15 New York State unable to connect, I was connected then DCed and was unable to reconnect. Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 11 ms 11 ms 32 ms cpe-24-168-40-1.hvc.res.rr.com [24.168.40.1] 3 11 ms 15 ms 12 ms gig-4-0-lbrtnymtn-rtr01.hvc.rr.com [24.164.161.1 93] 4 154 ms 155 ms 144 ms cpe-24-164-161-162.hvc.rr.com [24.164.161.162] 5 134 ms 136 ms 144 ms cpe-24-29-148-66.nyc.res.rr.com [24.29.148.66] 6 147 ms 136 ms 152 ms 107.14.19.24 7 130 ms 124 ms 132 ms ae-1-0.pr0.nyc20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.163] 8 139 ms * 144 ms 107.14.16.14 9 * 107.14.16.14 reports: Destination host unreachable. Trace complete.
Runawae	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:39:00 - [409] Not really sure if I want to search the forums over and over, but alot of people can't still connect comming form the facebook comments. Server status is unknown. Happend to myself as well, played and got d-ced. any official news on this ?
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:40:00 - [410] Originally by: SilKKZ the3rd I think we can safely say eurorings is the problem. Bit of a bummer Virgin Media uses eurorings lol. Probably the cheaper route to use. Sky also uses Eurorings. Sucks.

Atticus Fynch Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:41:00 - [411] Someone, somewhere is kicking back enjoying all this chaos. Who did this?
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:41:00 - [412] Originally by: Soden Rah people lose stuff all the time... I am sure they record all kinds of stuff. but they are not going to alter your credit Rating if you lose your card... If you lost it once a month though... I wouldn't recommend making a habit of it, but if you're online data has spiralled out of control, and you can't even remember all the places that have your details let along be able to delete all of them (assuming they let you, and the data is actually deleted) then killing it at source, by invalidating the card works. You might be able to just say to your credit card company that that is what you are trying to achieve. How they would take it however is an open question. Then again I took the step of telling my bank that I would never ever use online or phone banking services, and to put a note on my account saying that was the case, and if anyone ever tried to set up phone or internet banking on the accounts... it wasn't me. So they know I'm weird. Ah, apologies, I read it as a repeated thing, yeah, once shouldn't be a problem. And I've worked for a few companies which processed credit card information... your "weirdness" is totally justified =P
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:42:00 - [413] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Originally by: Templar Knightsbane im in the uk what the heck has france got to do with me? It's quite possib;e that your connection is still routed to CCP via the EuroRings network. If Eurorings touches CCP, your connection may be routed through it. Thus, trouble. also if the network you connect to ccp over uses the same balcklist as EuroRings..... Precisely. You might not understand the phyics behind laser recoil (Radiation pressure), but you know a bit more about internetz. Hi5. I know more about the physics of laser recoil than I do about internets... Don't know where that came from but hey what the hell Maybe you're mistaking me for someone else from that thread. But I have worked IT support, so I aught to know vaguely what I am talking about... and more to the point, know when I don't know what I am talking about __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:42:00 - [414] Edited by: Ethan Blacknova on 15/06/2011 02:43:31 Originally by: Runawae Not really sure if I want to search the forums over and over, but alot of people can't still connect comming form the facebook comments. Server status is unknown. Happend to myself as well, played and got d-ced. any official news on this ? It's currently impossibe to connect to Tranqulity if your connection route is via the Eurorings.net network due to the connection being blocked. This is Either the doing of CCP or more likely Eurorings due to the masses of traffic and disruption caused. (Blacklisted connections to CCP because of spam). CCP Will be able to resolve this, just give them time. Ethan Blacknova, 4 year Server Admin.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:42:00 - [415] So now basicly what? Contact the ISP with the tracert?
Fatwatai	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:43:00 - [416] Edited by: Fa**ai on 15/06/2011 02:45:22 Originally by: Rokokoko New York State unable to connect, I was connected then DCed and was unable to reconnect. Same here. Upstate New York. Time Warner broadband ISP. C:\Users\Owner>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms THEMATRIX [192.168.0.1] 2 16 ms 26 ms 20 ms cable1-0.albynytry-ar401.nyroc.rr.com [72.231.14 4.1] 3 85 ms 97 ms 112 ms gig1-0.albynytry-rtr02.nyroc.rr.com [24.29.39.81 ] 4 12 ms 12 ms 16 ms gig1-1-0.albynywav-rtr01.nyroc.rr.com [24.29.37. 45] 5 62 ms 40 ms 58 ms ge-4-0-0.albynywav-rtr03.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.7.2 5] 6 121 ms 193 ms 239 ms ae10-0.albynyyf-rtr000.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.21.21 8] 7 141 ms 121 ms 185 ms ae-5-0.cr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.74] 8 155 ms 171 ms 215 ms ae-1-0.pr0.nyc20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.163] 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * 107.14.16.14 reports: Destination host unreachable. Trace complete. Looks like the NY internet backbone is broken somewhere along the chain!
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:43:00 - [417] so euro rings is the problem, so we workout who uploaded the original prgramme, and fry his **** from the inside out using an ip trace, but yeah euro rings, CCP sone work would be nice, even along the line of " get the F to bed", peace of mind would be nice, rather than the wall of "LALALALA ITS NOT HAPPENING"
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:43:00 - [418] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold So now basicly what? Contact the ISP with the tracert? NO need they all are well aware of this situation... they working on it... it takes time...
Cloora APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:43:00 - [419] Good job to CCP for handling this in a professional manner. Now being that I'm not a 1337 ***** at the interwebs, can't the people that did this be traced back via thier ISP address and prosecuted? I want these skript kiddies hung by thier earlobes. buncha idiots ------------------------------------------ CEO and Major Shareholder of the APEX Conglomerate Producer of Starsi brand softdrinks and Torped-Os! brand cereal as well as many other fine products
Aloe Cloveris The Greater Goon	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:44:00 - [420] I'm helpful!

Wilbour Force	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:44:00 - [421] Hurry up and wait I guess. Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Monki>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.90.92.1 2 7 ms 10 ms 11 ms oldh-cam-1a-v122.network.virginmedia.net [80.5.1 64.89] 3 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms manc-core-1a-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [195. 182.175.65] 4 7 ms 7 ms 5 ms manc-bb-1a-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10 5.175.1] 5 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms glfd-bb-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10 5.175.146] 6 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms glfd-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10 5.159.46] 7 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms tcl5-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253. 185.78] 8 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete. C:\Documents and Settings\Monki>
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:45:00 - [422] Originally by: Cloora Good job to CCP for handling this in a professional manner. Now being that I'm not a 1337 ***** at the interwebs, can't the people that did this be traced back via thier ISP address and prosecuted? I want these skript kiddies hung by thier earlobes. buncha idiots not quite as easy as that, especially if bounce through proxy servers, its likke chasing a guy through a crowd which is a trickle compared to another, we can hop but its gonna be very very difficult to achieve in a reasonable amount of time
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:46:00 - [423] Originally by: Runawae Not really sure if I want to search the forums over and over, but alot of people can't still connect comming form the facebook comments. Server status is unknown. Happend to myself as well, played and got d-ced. any official news on this ? either your IP address is part of a set that has been blacklisted by at least one of the networks between you and CCP. or one of the networks you connect over has blacklisted anything end destinationing at TQ or one or more of the routers you are trying to connect through got scrambled in the DDoS and has forgotten where ccp is or similar. Or the ever present other :-) __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
kari bourza	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:46:00 - [424] Is there a way to avoid eurorings ?
Coal Porter	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:47:00 - [425] Tranquilty has been returned to service. To learn more about the denial of service attack, please read the following out of date message from our COO. = Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong or CCP cant be arsed to provide one employee charged with updating the information avenues available to them to communicate server status to their paying player base yet despite being "on the ball" investigating this event. /customer service fail
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:48:00 - [426] Originally by: Coal Porter Tranquilty has been returned to service. To learn more about the denial of service attack, please read the following out of date message from our COO. = Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong or CCP cant be arsed to provide one employee charged with updating the information avenues available to them to communicate server status to their paying player base yet despite being "on the ball" investigating this event. /customer service fail It is 22:47 eastern. It is 2:47 greenwich time... Go to bed.
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:48:00 - [427] Whats fantastic is between us we have deduced the problem before an announcement was made. Thats not a good show on CCP front.
Tyrolen Valkyr Industries	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:48:00 - [428] So CCP, since you insist on sending everyone here, is it too much to ask for your thoughts on the issue of those of us that are unable to connect?
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:48:00 - [429] Originally by: Cloora Good job to CCP for handling this in a professional manner. Now being that I'm not a 1337 ***** at the interwebs, can't the people that did this be traced back via thier ISP address and prosecuted? I want these skript kiddies hung by thier earlobes. buncha idiots It gets hard when they do it by hijacking the computers of innocent users and the computerilliterate, and turn them into zombie attack machines just waiting for the command from Lulzsec to jump on something. That and multiple proxies make things hard to track. Someone will get them though.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:48:00 - [430] Define "paranoid". When one decides to shut down its own service as a security response to an external "denial of service" attack. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts

Alucard Shadows	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:49:00 - [431] Originally by: Gregor Tagent Originally by: Cloora Good job to CCP for handling this in a professional manner. Now being that I'm not a 1337 ***** at the interwebs, can't the people that did this be traced back via thier ISP address and prosecuted? I want these skript kiddies hung by thier earlobes. buncha idiots not quite as easy as that, especially if bounce through proxy servers, its likke chasing a guy through a crowd which is a trickle compared to another, we can hop but its gonna be very very difficult to achieve in a reasonable amount of time Chasing a guy through a crowd of moving people who all look the same as him
POTUS Pimpology	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:49:00 - [432] A. I live in Washington State USA (Westsiiide) and cannot login while others say they can. 2. I would really like an update as to WTF and when things will be online again. I get that the servers needed to be shut down. This still hasn't stopped me from trying to login every 5 min since people started saying they were online. Just tell us that we cannot play until X time and let us try the whole going outside thing. Maybe even tell us why some people can get on and others cannot.
Teman Radovan	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:49:00 - [433] http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4616&tid=1 Just what is CCPss responsibility if my account and/or payment information is compromised?!
Jita Jenn	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:49:00 - [434] Originally by: Gregor Tagent so euro rings is the problem, so we workout who uploaded the original prgramme, and fry his ** from the inside out using an ip trace, but yeah euro rings, CCP sone work would be nice, even along the line of " get the F to bed", peace of mind would be nice, rather than the wall of "LALALALA ITS NOT HAPPENING" I think CCP have more important things to worry about that answering every stupid question being asked on these forums. It's almost 3 a.m. in Iceland right now, I'm sure the night shift and the ones still working from yesterday are doing the best they can until the next shift arrives in a few hours to sort this mess out. So get the fk to bed and stop complaining.
cyclobs Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:49:00 - [435] Originally by: Coal Porter Tranquilty has been returned to service. To learn more about the denial of service attack, please read the following out of date message from our COO. = Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong or CCP cant be arsed to provide one employee charged with updating the information avenues available to them to communicate server status to their paying player base yet despite being "on the ball" investigating this event. /customer service fail if you had even bothered to read the post above yours you'd realise how fail your post is
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:50:00 - [436] Originally by: Zleon Leigh Since CCP decided to crowd us all in here to muffle the different aspects even though many of us had started threads long before this one... DDOS - Do your part! Hopefully you (EVE players) took the 6 hour downtime to let the virus checker complete its background scan of your system. No? Didn't do that? Don't be a Zombie!!! Run Anti-virus and Trojan checking programs (and anything else legit) now and make sure you are not part of the DDOS problem. But- be very careful of where you get these programs - remember the recent Apple lesson. Don't think it's you? - a friend found 3 Trojans on his comp today - after scanning clean yesterday. lol a reasonable suggestion.. i was just having fun with the banter and didn't expect that complete scan underway...
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:50:00 - [437] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 02:50:22 Originally by: Coal Porter Tranquilty has been returned to service. To learn more about the denial of service attack, please read the following out of date message from our COO. = Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong or CCP cant be arsed to provide one employee charged with updating the information avenues available to them to communicate server status to their paying player base yet despite being "on the ball" investigating this event. /customer service fail what report do you expect ? some ussually quote : we are dealing with the problem right now, waiting for futher actualization of the provider ? Its like that they contact their provider they try to contact others and in two hours it get solved... deal with it... Shame i no longer work for Verizon with backbone rights... will have at least slight chance to see whats happening...
Da Hui	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:50:00 - [438] Edited by: Da Hui on 15/06/2011 02:51:22 I've been locked out for about 8 hours now........WTF!?! I demand 30 billion ISK for this heresy!
thornray	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:50:00 - [439] Still doesn't address the issue of credit card theft. I want to be able to allow CCP to keep my credit card infornation or not.....should be up to me. Auto bill should be up to me, not CCP. Just think of how many people don't check their credit card statements. DO you?
JeanMichel Bizarre Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:50:00 - [440] Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 15/06/2011 02:50:21 Yeah... TQ may be up for some of the playerbase, but it's not for me. I've run a tracer and I get a beautiful TIME OUT for each and every hop. C:\Users\Radu>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Users\Radu>

Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:50:00 - [441] Originally by: SilKKZ the3rd Whats fantastic is between us we have deduced the problem before an announcement was made. Thats not a good show on CCP front. Remember that marketting and all kinds of buisnessman crap gets in the way. It's not their fault, it's just how a company has to operate; cautiously. Originally by: kari bourza Is there a way to avoid eurorings ? Only if you're VERY good at routing proxy connections.
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:51:00 - [442] Yes Daddy!, I go to bed when I want, and if I want to complain I will. On another note, I will go to bed, if I can haz your stuff Originally by: Jita Jenn Originally by: Gregor Tagent so euro rings is the problem, so we workout who uploaded the original prgramme, and fry his ** from the inside out using an ip trace, but yeah euro rings, CCP sone work would be nice, even along the line of " get the F to bed", peace of mind would be nice, rather than the wall of "LALALALA ITS NOT HAPPENING" I think CCP have more important things to worry about that answering every stupid question being asked on these forums. It's almost 3 a.m. in Iceland right now, I'm sure the night shift and the ones still working from yesterday are doing the best they can until the next shift arrives in a few hours to sort this mess out. So get the fk to bed and stop complaining.
Crunchmeister Gallente Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:53:00 - [443] Same deal here. 1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms Computer 2 10 ms 8 ms 10 ms router 3 22 ms 23 ms 19 ms d226-12-53.home.cgocable.net [24.226.12.53] 4 21 ms 18 ms 19 ms xe-2-2-0.tor10.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.69.237] 5 51 ms 37 ms 41 ms xe-9-1-0.chi10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.187.78] 6 33 ms 31 ms 33 ms chg-s1-rou-1001.US.eurorings.net [206.223.119.95 ] 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * chg-s1-rou-1001.US.eurorings.net [206.223.119.95] report s: Destination host unreachable.
Zetler Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:54:00 - [444] SSH tunnel to university network that doesnt use euroring, gg
Pvt Parts	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:54:00 - [445] I really do not think that requesting a little more information and an ETA on it being fixed is considered complaining. I haven't seen too many people /ragequit over this. We just want some info.
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:55:00 - [446] Originally by: Jita Jenn Originally by: Gregor Tagent so euro rings is the problem, so we workout who uploaded the original prgramme, and fry his ** from the inside out using an ip trace, but yeah euro rings, CCP sone work would be nice, even along the line of " get the F to bed", peace of mind would be nice, rather than the wall of "LALALALA ITS NOT HAPPENING" I think CCP have more important things to worry about that answering every stupid question being asked on these forums. It's almost 3 a.m. in Iceland right now, I'm sure the night shift and the ones still working from yesterday are doing the best they can until the next shift arrives in a few hours to sort this mess out. So get the fk to bed and stop complaining. all im asking for is a little communication, its called customer service, and that is almost as important as fixing the problem, people are all asking the asme 2 question, why is it ****ed up, and how are you fixing it, we want someone to spend 30seconds saying the damn hamsters have been set loose"
daddys helper	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:55:00 - [447] to ip 87.237.38.200 i get 10 hops from NY to Virginia 107.14.16.14 (road runner) in virgina reports destination host unreachable.
Fred Evil	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:56:00 - [448] Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 15/06/2011 02:50:21 Yeah... TQ may be up for some of the playerbase, but it's not for me. I've run a tracer and I get a beautiful TIME OUT for each and every hop. C:\Users\Radu>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 * * * Request timed out. ... 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Users\Radu> Dude...your intarwebz is down....srsly, you don't even get a response from your OWN router...
Coal Porter	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:56:00 - [449] Originally by: cyclobs Originally by: Coal Porter Tranquilty has been returned to service. To learn more about the denial of service attack, please read the following out of date message from our COO. = Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong or CCP cant be arsed to provide one employee charged with updating the information avenues available to them to communicate server status to their paying player base yet despite being "on the ball" investigating this event. /customer service fail if you had even bothered to read the post above yours you'd realise how fail your post is Had you bothered to look at the time stamp on the posts you reference, you would have realized that the "post above mine" was posted while i was in the midst of composing my post. /fail me? or /pull your own head out of your fail hole?
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:57:00 - [450] Originally by: Zetler SSH tunnel to university network that doesnt use euroring, gg Damn you, if only I had access to similar solutions! Shakefist Everyone else: CALM THE FEDO DOWN. It'll be back soon. It's NOT the end of EVE. It's NOT a problem with the computer. It's NOT a problem with CCP. It IS a problem with internet policies and a european netowrk distributor. WAIT and it WILL BE FIXED.

Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:57:00 - [451] Well he got it posted didn't he?
Aloe Cloveris The Greater Goon	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:57:00 - [452] Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 15/06/2011 02:50:21 Yeah... TQ may be up for some of the playerbase, but it's not for me. I've run a tracer and I get a beautiful TIME OUT for each and every hop. C:\Users\Radu>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Users\Radu> How are you even posting here??@! :psyduck:
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:57:00 - [453] Originally by: Gregor Tagent Originally by: Jita Jenn Originally by: Gregor Tagent so euro rings is the problem, so we workout who uploaded the original prgramme, and fry his ** from the inside out using an ip trace, but yeah euro rings, CCP sone work would be nice, even along the line of " get the F to bed", peace of mind would be nice, rather than the wall of "LALALALA ITS NOT HAPPENING" I think CCP have more important things to worry about that answering every stupid question being asked on these forums. It's almost 3 a.m. in Iceland right now, I'm sure the night shift and the ones still working from yesterday are doing the best they can until the next shift arrives in a few hours to sort this mess out. So get the fk to bed and stop complaining. all im asking for is a little communication, its called customer service, and that is almost as important as fixing the problem, people are all asking the asme 2 question, why is it **ed up, and how are you fixing it, we want someone to spend 30seconds saying the damn hamsters have been set loose" Well they cant post until they get some **... in other words... unless you want some polite phrases about nothing.. just wait.
Gilm	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:58:00 - [454] 14 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [134.222.228.94] reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete. I'm timing out with eurorings.net as well.
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:59:00 - [455] Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Originally by: Gregor Tagent Originally by: Jita Jenn Originally by: Gregor Tagent so euro rings is the problem, so we workout who uploaded the original prgramme, and fry his ** from the inside out using an ip trace, but yeah euro rings, CCP sone work would be nice, even along the line of " get the F to bed", peace of mind would be nice, rather than the wall of "LALALALA ITS NOT HAPPENING" I think CCP have more important things to worry about that answering every stupid question being asked on these forums. It's almost 3 a.m. in Iceland right now, I'm sure the night shift and the ones still working from yesterday are doing the best they can until the next shift arrives in a few hours to sort this mess out. So get the fk to bed and stop complaining. all im asking for is a little communication, its called customer service, and that is almost as important as fixing the problem, people are all asking the asme 2 question, why is it **ed up, and how are you fixing it, we want someone to spend 30seconds saying the damn hamsters have been set loose" Well they cant post until they get some **... in other words... unless you want some polite phrases about nothing.. just wait. polite nothing is better than wall of nothing
Simetraz	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:59:00 - [456] Originally by: daddys helper to ip 87.237.38.200 i get 10 hops from NY to Virginia 107.14.16.14 (road runner) in virgina reports destination host unreachable. That IP [107.14.16.14) is registered Canada. It appears everyone on the East coast is trying to use Canada's across the pond link. So that means nobody is getting across right now, @ least not without heavy packet loss. So web pages work but as for the game, forget it.
Fred Evil	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:59:00 - [457] Originally by: Zetler SSH tunnel to university network that doesnt use euroring, gg Actually, at the risk of overposting, this is a legitimate point. If you have a hotspot on your phone, try that, backup dial-up, try that...vpn through work, try it....a different netblock may let you in.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:59:00 - [458] Originally by: SilKKZ the3rd Whats fantastic is between us we have deduced the problem before an announcement was made. Thats not a good show on CCP front. we have deduced some 'likely' problems... we don't KNOW what the problem is. CCP might, or might not know. but until they are sure.... better to say when they know rather than say stuff they might have to retract later. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:00:00 - [459] To repeat what I said earlier: CCP will have no control of this situation, they can't give an ETA or any additional information. Even the chances of them being able to contact the ISP in question to get an answer is incredibly unlikely. Considering the nature of the problem, the primary way it could be diagnosed would be through us, as we've managed to do. This is not a reflection on CCP in any way, this should be easy to grasp, they don't control the backbones of the Internet =P
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:00:00 - [460] Yay Canada!

Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:01:00 - [461] Blame canada!
Jita Jenn	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:02:00 - [462] Originally by: Gregor Tagent all im asking for is a little communication, its called customer service, and that is almost as important as fixing the problem, people are all asking the asme 2 question, why is it ****ed up, and how are you fixing it, we want someone to spend 30seconds saying the damn hamsters have been set loose" Well first of all CCP have never been very good at updating us during an unscheduled/extended downtime. To be fair, this doesn't even have anything to do with CCP, this is something much bigger. ISPs and server hosts are having their own problems, which is what we're seeing here. As far as CCP are concerned, TQ is online and people are playing. The ones having issues are the ones whose connections are routing through Eurorings. CCP can't comment because CCP have nothing to do with it.
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:02:00 - [463] Originally by: Gregor Tagent ---snip--- polite nothing is better than wall of nothing Well is like that.. I used to work at similar environment as those you want an answer from ... Not talking about cust. support but network engineer. You want me investigate and fix the problem or talking to you ? Choice is yours.
Crunchmeister Gallente Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:02:00 - [464] ♪♫Blame Canada!♫♪
FlashAM	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:03:00 - [465] Just to reiterate, I'm having the same issue as most others. Everything stops after eurorings.net. 12 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [134.222.228.94] reports: Destination net unreachable.
I Love Boobies Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:03:00 - [466] I did a traceroute to the server and it was fine. I can connect without any issues from the midwest, USA. I seen no Euroring or whatever on the results, so it pretty much confirms it's the culprit.
Westwood Arrakis	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:03:00 - [467] Skill training complete in 7h9m. I guess I'll go to bed and when I get up to take a **** tonight I'll queue another skill up.
Jonii Minmatar Woopatang Primary.	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:03:00 - [468]
Simetraz	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:03:00 - [469] Edited by: Simetraz on 15/06/2011 03:05:13 Originally by: Gregor Tagent Blame canada! Actually Canada's link is up it is the Boston one that is currently down and causing the routing Issues. But the problem could also be on the distant end isp.
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:04:00 - [470] /nerdrage now i'm sufficently deranted, i do understand, but venting is very required, as far as the whole eurolinks thing is going, i propose a new lynch mob

SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:04:00 - [471] Thats very true, BUT! eurorings will have strict SLA policies, and will be open 24 hours a day 365 days a year. If a fault has been detected or issued, belive you me ISP are the first to know and probably the first to complain. If eurorings is down, all of our traffic should have been automaticaly re routed through a route that does work. So its not a fault on the network its clearly either being blocked by eurorings or CCP servers itself. Looking at the tracert from me, its being blocked at a network level so when the DDos started CCP probably called said provider and asked for all connections to be terminated. I have done this many times myself at data centres when my servers have been attacked. Problem is why are they still blocked? thats the interesting part. Originally by: Katrina Raskin To repeat what I said earlier: CCP will have no control of this situation, they can't give an ETA or any additional information. Even the chances of them being able to contact the ISP in question to get an answer is incredibly unlikely. Considering the nature of the problem, the primary way it could be diagnosed would be through us, as we've managed to do. This is not a reflection on CCP in any way, this should be easy to grasp, they don't control the backbones of the Internet =P
Pvt Parts	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:04:00 - [472] Quote: polite nothing is better than wall of nothing I think a polite nothing is better than "Tranquility has been returned to service." but you still cannot get on and we will not tell you why or when you can get back on. Just tell us it's f*&ked and will not be fixed until the morning shift comes in.
Templar Knightsbane	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:04:00 - [473] yeah this is the euroring thing when i trace that adreess 87.237.38.200 the other guy was trying i assumed that was EVE servers like, damn, someone get them on the phone yah
Kahtah Gallente Black Star Decievers	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:05:00 - [474] Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Celldweller>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 17 ms 14 ms 11 ms rc3ar-tge0-0-1-0-2.ed.shawcable.net [64.59.189.1 95] 4 32 ms 28 ms 38 ms 66.163.78.18 5 25 ms 27 ms 28 ms rc2wh-tge0-15-1-0.vc.shawcable.net [66.163.69.12 1] 6 31 ms 32 ms 39 ms 66.163.78.62 7 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete. C:\Users\Celldweller> I love you, my little exit wound
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:05:00 - [475] Originally by: Katrina Raskin To repeat what I said earlier: CCP will have no control of this situation, they can't give an ETA or any additional information. Even the chances of them being able to contact the ISP in question to get an answer is incredibly unlikely. Considering the nature of the problem, the primary way it could be diagnosed would be through us, as we've managed to do. This is not a reflection on CCP in any way, this should be easy to grasp, they don't control the backbones of the Internet =P yeah ccp is probably on the phone right now, on hold, with annoying music being played, trying to get through to someone in India, who wont know how to solve the problem, but has to work through a 50 page book of "have you tried plugging it in, first grade IT support advice" before he can escalate it to second line... who escalate to third line, who tell CCP that its standard policy in the event of a DDoS/botnet attack, and they have to talk to management... management are in bed, and will be in tomorrow at 10. but right now they are still on hold, and are listening to Vivaldi's 4 seasons for the 20th time... __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
J0an0fArc Caldari Tempest Legion Skunk Works.	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:05:00 - [476] Originally by: Katrina Raskin To repeat what I said earlier: CCP will have no control of this situation, they can't give an ETA or any additional information. Even the chances of them being able to contact the ISP in question to get an answer is incredibly unlikely. Considering the nature of the problem, the primary way it could be diagnosed would be through us, as we've managed to do. This is not a reflection on CCP in any way, this should be easy to grasp, they don't control the backbones of the Internet =P Well, It's never connected that way before, What happened to the Eastern USA link? Has that just disappeared or has Atlanta suddenly fallen victim to a DDos attack of thier own? Makes no sense If we were able to get on after the servers were brought back online, then Eve dissapears from our screens to come back to Satus unknown. Considering what happened today I wouldn't be surprised if they're still having other issues not soely pertaining to a Canada link or an ISP issue. Mine or Die.
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:06:00 - [477] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:06:46 Originally by: Pvt Parts Quote: polite nothing is better than wall of nothing I think a polite nothing is better than "Tranquility has been returned to service." but you still cannot get on and we will not tell you why or when you can get back on. Just tell us it's f*&ked and will not be fixed until the morning shift comes in. To make another quote... Its not problem of CCP .. as you can see from those traceroutes on this thread... So they cant fix it... its up to providers and their network engineers to fix it and they wont do so if they still see something fishy... aka eliminating source of the problem while keeping functionality...
I Love Boobies Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:06:00 - [478] Oh yeah, just had another thought. Who wants to take bets this will happen again in the near future, or maybe something worse, from some copycat or some other hacker group that wants to one up the ones responsible for today's attack? It wouldn't surprise me in the least if it happens, or is happening.
cyclobs Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:08:00 - [479] Originally by: Coal Porter Originally by: cyclobs Originally by: Coal Porter Tranquilty has been returned to service. To learn more about the denial of service attack, please read the following out of date message from our COO. = Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong or CCP cant be arsed to provide one employee charged with updating the information avenues available to them to communicate server status to their paying player base yet despite being "on the ball" investigating this event. /customer service fail if you had even bothered to read the post above yours you'd realise how fail your post is Had you bothered to look at the time stamp on the posts you reference, you would have realized that the "post above mine" was posted while i was in the midst of composing my post. /fail me? or /pull your own head out of your fail hole? lol.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:10:00 - [480] Edited by: Jormungandr Bastanold on 15/06/2011 03:10:33 Please email questions or comments to lg-op [at] eurorings [dot] net. form http://lg.eurorings.net/ I'm not sure that information is relevant to the current problem. I tried to get some contact info for that eurorings thing.

SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:10:00 - [481] Edited by: SilKKZ the3rd on 15/06/2011 03:13:10 For anyone who wants it, this is a live network status map of KPN (Dutch Eurorings operator) All routes are operational with decent ping times. http://www.kpn-international.com/network/performancemap I can also ping the IP where my connection fails, so its being blocked
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:13:00 - [482] Originally by: SilKKZ the3rd For anyone who wants it, this is a live network status map of KPN (Dutch Eurorings operator) All routes are operational with decent ping times. http://www.kpn-international.com/network/performancemap If that means what i think it does... CCP has banned Eurorings...
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:15:00 - [483] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Originally by: SilKKZ the3rd For anyone who wants it, this is a live network status map of KPN (Dutch Eurorings operator) All routes are operational with decent ping times. http://www.kpn-international.com/network/performancemap If that means what i think it does... CCP has banned Eurorings... Yep its probably the network used for the attack and they noticed it going through the logs.
PriorofDeath The Suicide Express Sobriety Test Failures	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:15:00 - [484] So basically for someone who is right next to the Canadian boarder, I'm ****ed till the morning I take it? Totally have no clue what yall are talking about. Rain Man Could Do It And He Was A R3Tard! Go On N1GGA Get JEFFRIED!
JeanMichel Bizarre Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:15:00 - [485] Originally by: Fred Evil Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 15/06/2011 02:50:21 Yeah... TQ may be up for some of the playerbase, but it's not for me. I've run a tracer and I get a beautiful TIME OUT for each and every hop. C:\Users\Radu>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 * * * Request timed out. ... 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Users\Radu> Dude...your intarwebz is down....srsly, you don't even get a response from your OWN router... I can connect to everything on the interwebz just fine... Even the EVE website and forums, so yeah, strange...
Sue Shee	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:15:00 - [486] Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:06:46 Originally by: Pvt Parts Quote: polite nothing is better than wall of nothing I think a polite nothing is better than "Tranquility has been returned to service." but you still cannot get on and we will not tell you why or when you can get back on. Just tell us it's f*&ked and will not be fixed until the morning shift comes in. To make another quote... Its not problem of CCP .. as you can see from those traceroutes on this thread... So they cant fix it... its up to providers and their network engineers to fix it and they wont do so if they still see something fishy... aka eliminating source of the problem while keeping functionality... Everyone had better get to scanning and making sure there computers are clean so the group haven't got any bots to control...... until then, the group has ammo they can use
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:16:00 - [487] Originally by: Fred Evil Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 15/06/2011 02:50:21 Yeah... TQ may be up for some of the playerbase, but it's not for me. I've run a tracer and I get a beautiful TIME OUT for each and every hop. C:\Users\Radu>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 * * * Request timed out. ... 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Users\Radu> Dude...your intarwebz is down....srsly, you don't even get a response from your OWN router... rofl, this made me laugh. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Saint Lazarus Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:18:00 - [488] An actual update would be nice... ----------------- My EvE Comic
Temu TheGreat	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:18:00 - [489] Well I can't connect still... Western Canada Any recommendations for good free antivirus's? Used my bog standard Norton and it came back with nothing... wondering if a secondary scan is in order? Oh, and tried the trace, but the command prompt closed itself down after 7 hops without completing the trace... Any ideas?
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:19:00 - [490] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:19:07 Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Originally by: SilKKZ the3rd For anyone who wants it, this is a live network status map of KPN (Dutch Eurorings operator) All routes are operational with decent ping times. http://www.kpn-international.com/network/performancemap If that means what i think it does... CCP has banned Eurorings... That means KPN are horrible... it takes them a little longer to realize that what they say is not entirely true..." personal experience "... But it could mean different things... too not that CCP "forced drop" them but the next provider did.

Galente Rage	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:19:00 - [491] Originally by: Saint Lazarus An actual update would be nice... this.
Simetraz	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:20:00 - [492] Originally by: J0an0fArc Originally by: Katrina Raskin To repeat what I said earlier: CCP will have no control of this situation, they can't give an ETA or any additional information. Even the chances of them being able to contact the ISP in question to get an answer is incredibly unlikely. Considering the nature of the problem, the primary way it could be diagnosed would be through us, as we've managed to do. This is not a reflection on CCP in any way, this should be easy to grasp, they don't control the backbones of the Internet =P Well, It's never connected that way before, What happened to the Eastern USA link? Has that just disappeared or has Atlanta suddenly fallen victim to a DDos attack of thier own? Makes no sense If we were able to get on after the servers were brought back online, then Eve dissapears from our screens to come back to Satus unknown. Considering what happened today I wouldn't be surprised if they're still having other issues not soely pertaining to a Canada link or an ISP issue. Mostly likely the ISP that receives the US traffic is having problems. Router Issues or something as stupid as somebody back-hoed the fiber. Don't laugh it can and has happened. ISP are not very susceptible to DDOS attacks, different hardware then servers. DDOS are extremely easy to kill @ the router level as compared to the end user server level. So my bet is on a hardware Issue.
POTUS Pimpology	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:20:00 - [493] I do not understand why I cannot log into the server but, my EVEMON can. At the bottom it says server online with 24,119 pilots. 24,002 now.
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:21:00 - [494] scanny scanny scanny, damn you lulsec, know that oneday you will infect your ownchildren with various types of STI when you fail to resist your incestial urges, and know this you have the rage of thousands of nerds ready to cut you down where you stand, its a matter of one of you slipping up, i can promise if i ever meet one of you, its waterboarding till you die
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:21:00 - [495] Edited by: Jormungandr Bastanold on 15/06/2011 03:21:26 Originally by: Sue Shee Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:06:46 -snip- Everyone had better get to scanning and making sure there computers are clean so the group haven't got any bots to control...... until then, the group has ammo they can use I don't know about scrubbing. Anti-Virus and Anti-Spyware only pick up old stuff and most of the time the resident shield would have picked up anything in their database. Personnally my money is on the 110mb windows update i got shortly after that whole attack thing.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:21:00 - [496] We are aware of the difficulties some of you have connecting to the EVE Online server and we're looking into it. Wrangler Senior Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.

Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:21:00 - [497] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:26:42 Originally by: POTUS I do not understand why I cannot log into the server but, my EVEMON can. At the bottom it says server online with 24,119 pilots. 24,002 now. Your evemone "database" is connected from elsewhere through different route. I would have guessed... or actually connected to entirely different IP /API Database .. not sure..
Slyndria	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:21:00 - [498] Edited by: Slyndria on 15/06/2011 03:23:40 I knows some people whos knows some people. If we can get the location of one of these lulz guys, we can remove them from the equation. Freakin Basterds. You know it would be funny if they got hacked back. They would probably go running to momma and start crying about it. Lol Oh. Can't get to battleclinic either.
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:24:00 - [499] Originally by: CCP Wrangler We are aware of the difficulties some of you have connecting to the EVE Online server and we're looking into it. thanks, thats all i wanted to hear, night all
Daimon Kria	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:24:00 - [500] Originally by: Sue Shee Everyone had better get to scanning and making sure there computers are clean so the group haven't got any bots to control...... until then, the group has ammo they can use They cannot infect me! I use Linux.

janet calder	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:25:00 - [501] Originally by: POTUS I do not understand why I cannot log into the server but, my EVEMON can. At the bottom it says server online with 24,119 pilots. 24,002 now. Same here :(
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:26:00 - [502] Originally by: Daimon Kria Originally by: Sue Shee Everyone had better get to scanning and making sure there computers are clean so the group haven't got any bots to control...... until then, the group has ammo they can use They cannot infect me! I use Linux. Gratz on post 500!
Isaac ValMazmar Caldari Numquam non Paratus	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:26:00 - [503] I can ping and trace-route to SISI just fine but TQ is blocked... CCP must be blocking traffic in that direction specifically. Eastern US here.
POTUS Pimpology	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:27:00 - [504] I think Blizzard must have heard about this because I just got an e-mail from them with a 7 day, reactivate your account, we miss you.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:28:00 - [505] Originally by: Sue Shee Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:06:46 Originally by: Pvt Parts Quote: polite nothing is better than wall of nothing I think a polite nothing is better than "Tranquility has been returned to service." but you still cannot get on and we will not tell you why or when you can get back on. Just tell us it's f&ked and will not be fixed until the morning shift comes in. To make another quote... Its not problem of CCP .. as you can see from those traceroutes on this thread... So they cant fix it... its up to providers and their network engineers to fix it and they wont do so if they still see something fishy... aka eliminating source of the problem while keeping functionality... Everyone had better get to scanning and making sure there computers are clean so the group haven't got any bots to control...... until then, the group has ammo they can use statistically given a max number of eve users of around 350k, a botnet of 1 million pc's, and an internet of billions of pc's... the overlap of people who play eve and were part of the botnet that brought it down is going to be pretty small. (assuming conservatively 2 billion connected PCs worldwide, and 350k eve player PC's and 1 Million PC's in the botnet... eve users represent 0.0175% of total PC's on the internet, and the bot net accounting for 0.05% of the computers on the internet. You would expect given that around 175 eve users who were part of the botnet.... on average.) Still well worth checking for viruses anyway. __________________________________________________ Originally by:* CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:28:00 - [506] Originally by: Isaac ValMazmar I can ping and trace-route to SISI just fine but TQ is blocked... CCP must be blocking traffic in that direction specifically. Eastern US here. That would mean as long as you live in the middle of nowhere you can connect? Heavliy compromised hops would have been cut leaving only the smaller less relevant ones.
Raza Locuta	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:29:00 - [507] Good thing I have a 7 day training queue going...
Ker'Plah	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:29:00 - [508] Well I'm in Eastern Canada. I can't connect to Tranquility but I can connect to Sisi.
Jeenna Jameson	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:29:00 - [509] I'm UK and also can't log in
Miliam Brinalle	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:30:00 - [510] It has also been down for me since ~1:30 utc and my traceroute doesn't end at eurorings: Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 103 ms 43 ms 77 ms 192.168.153.1 2 46 ms 67 ms 44 ms 17.Red-81-46-38.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.46.38.17] 3 58 ms 56 ms 59 ms So2-0-0-0-grtmadpe3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [84.16.6.201] 4 83 ms 56 ms 63 ms Xe4-1-3-0-grtmadde2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [84.16.12.50] 5 95 ms 93 ms 175 ms So4-3-0-0-grtlontl3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [84.16.12.122] 6 kpn-2-0-0-0-grtlontl3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [213.140.52.94] reports: Destination net unreachable.

Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:31:00 - [511] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:32:24 I can log in, allready posted working traceroute few pages back. And i am still there with you. Just saying. sorry for OT @at GX below me : You are probably right... i updated that post. while you where clarifying.
GX307	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:32:00 - [512] Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Originally by: POTUS I do not understand why I cannot log into the server but, my EVEMON can. At the bottom it says server online with 24,119 pilots. 24,002 now. Your evemone "database" is connected from elsewhere through different route. I would have guessed... More likely the that router is blocking the exact port or layer 2 traffic type, instead of all the ports, just block the active traffic from that netblock etc so you can get to the website but not the game server.
Janeiros Gallente Genstar Inc	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:32:00 - [513] I can't connect :( --> Janeiros
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:33:00 - [514] Originally by: CCP Wrangler We are aware of the difficulties some of you have connecting to the EVE Online server and we're looking into it. "Difficulties"? Server is offline for me. So cannot even get to the so-named difficulties to connect... It's one of the biggest games out. It's obvious not the first DDoS attack. Why was nobody aware that things like this can happen? Just seeing what those rl-impotents did to Sony?
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:33:00 - [515] Edited by: Jormungandr Bastanold on 15/06/2011 03:35:33 points at thread title We are back in business, but TQ is back up Update Ummmmmm...
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:33:00 - [516] Originally by: Miliam Brinalle 6 kpn-2-0-0-0-grtlontl3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [213.140.52.94] reports: Destination net unreachable. KPN networks. Looks like we have the culprit well and truly identified.
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:34:00 - [517] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:36:03 Originally by: CCP Wrangler We are aware of the difficulties some of you have connecting to the EVE Online server and we're looking into it. In case you missed update.... @Tazram or Dazram below me : Dont hold your breath ... it could take couple of hours. Generally communication between two providers take times... unless its escalated to high management lvl.
Dazram Two	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:35:00 - [518] taps foot on ground I'm still waiting.....
Raza Locuta	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:35:00 - [519] Just Logged in. Midwest
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:36:00 - [520] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Originally by: Miliam Brinalle 6 kpn-2-0-0-0-grtlontl3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [213.140.52.94] reports: Destination net unreachable. KPN networks. Looks like we have the culprit well and truly identified. It's probably more than one... ISP's share bad IP blacklists with each other (and or share the same security company which has its blacklist). If one blocks you/ccp its likely others will as well... at varying rates depending on how fast they update their blacklists. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function

Faith Triump	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:36:00 - [521] Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000] Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Morganne>tracert 87.237.38.200 Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.1 2 22 ms 15 ms 11 ms 73.98.12.1 3 8 ms 7 ms 10 ms ge-3-28-ur01.everett.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68. 87.206.197] 4 16 ms 14 ms 11 ms xe-5-0-2-0-ar03.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [6 8.86.96.177] 5 19 ms 14 ms 14 ms pos-0-0-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net [ 68.86.93.105] 6 23 ms 15 ms 20 ms pos-1-5-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [6 8.86.87.245] 7 43 ms 43 ms 47 ms pos-0-6-0-0-cr01.denver.co.ibone.comcast.net [68 .86.87.49] 8 63 ms 58 ms 60 ms pos-2-15-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [6 8.86.85.174] 9 80 ms 79 ms 79 ms pos-0-11-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [ 68.86.85.222] 10 94 ms 96 ms 102 ms pos-4-9-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [6 8.86.87.193] 11 111 ms 99 ms 94 ms be-13-pe04.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.8 4.214] 12 258 ms 216 ms 234 ms 201-126-245-83.packetexchange.net [83.245.126.20 1] 13 173 ms 176 ms 174 ms 248.36.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.36.248] 14 192 ms 191 ms 173 ms 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] Trace complete. C:\Users\Morganne> Still get the error from windows "CCP Exefile has stopped working" after a fresh install
Sorinna	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:37:00 - [522] Edited by: Sorinna on 15/06/2011 03:39:02 DTtermination de l'itinTraire vers 20.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.20] avec un maximum de 30 sautsá: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms livebox.home [192.168.1.1] 2 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms ABordeaux-652-1-8-1.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr [9...1] 3 44 ms 19 ms 19 ms 10.123.164.74 4 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms xe-3-1-0-0.nrpoi202.Poitiers.francetelecom.net [ 81.253.131.150] 5 33 ms 32 ms 33 ms 193.252.100.42 6 33 ms 43 ms 33 ms te1-3.parse1.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.128. 162] 7 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms kpn-1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.252.246] 8 33 ms 33 ms 35 ms 134.222.228.117 9 34 ms 47 ms 40 ms 213.242.111.25 10 62 ms 199 ms 198 ms PACKET-EXCH.car5.London1.Level3.net [212.187.160 .62] 11 40 ms 40 ms 41 ms 250.36.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.36.250] 12 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 13 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 14 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 15 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 16 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 17 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 18 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 19 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 20 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 21 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 22 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 23 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. 24 * * * DTlai d'attente de la demande dTpassT. edit : just logged in
POTUS Pimpology	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:38:00 - [523] Just logged in. Later
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:38:00 - [524] seems to work now, i'm in.
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:38:00 - [525] I am back online and using a totally new route to the server 10 20 ms 19 ms 22 ms eveonline-ic-138015-ldn-b3.c.telia.net [213.248. 83.198] 11 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 250.36.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.36.250] 12 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200] Maybe virgin media detected the outage and re routed to another provider.
Ruthless Erection	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:38:00 - [526] Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. Update: Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible. Update @ 01:15 UTC: Tranquility is now online. An update has been published to this news post. Update @ 03:21 UTC: We are aware of the difficulties some of you have connecting to the EVE Online server and we're looking into it.
Kahtah Gallente Black Star Decievers	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:38:00 - [527] Can now long on. I love you, my little exit wound
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:39:00 - [528] My dear giddy Aunt, a lot of these responses remind me why I quit IT. And why I usually wanted to stab the help desk when they tried to figure out/explain network issues to the suits. So, thank you, you've reminded me how the money so was not worth it. That said... @Soden For some reason I always seemed to get "Spice Girls - If you want to be my lover" and often in a short loop. The horror that kicks in when you realise you're absent mindedly humming along with it, is intense.
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:41:00 - [529] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 03:41:46 Originally by: Katrina Raskin My dear giddy Aunt, a lot of these responses remind me why I quit IT. And why I usually wanted to stab the help desk when they tried to figure out/explain network issues to the suits. So, thank you, you've reminded me how the money so was not worth it. That said... @Soden For some reason I always seemed to get "Spice Girls - If you want to be my lover" and often in a short loop. The horror that kicks in when you realise you're absent mindedly humming along with it, is intense. Well for me it reminds me good old days.. of watching ETMS doing milions things at once why calling at three places .. trying to get updates and watching network for changes. And my wage was well below avarage i would say. xD while listnening Dope - Die MF Die
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:42:00 - [530] Edited by: Jormungandr Bastanold on 15/06/2011 03:43:30 So what would be a good punishment for this? How about public exposure. Your full name all over the news. No more jobs... No more appartments...


CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:43:00 - [531] Is everyone able to login now or does anyone still have problems connecting to the server? Wrangler Senior Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.

Fuuka Yamagishi	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:43:00 - [532] I'm able to get back in now.
Faith Triump	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:44:00 - [533] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Is everyone able to login now or does anyone still have problems connecting to the server? I'm still white screening Wrangler
SilKKZ the3rd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:45:00 - [534] Check is ok for me now. That you have removed KPN Eurorings
qasdfdsaq	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:46:00 - [535] Virgin Media (UK) now working again, routing via Telia instead of Eurorings. Can't say much for everyone else though...
Saint Lazarus Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:47:00 - [536] Wasnt able get on before and now im back in ----------------- My EvE Comic
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:47:00 - [537] Originally by: Katrina Raskin My dear giddy Aunt, a lot of these responses remind me why I quit IT. And why I usually wanted to stab the help desk when they tried to figure out/explain network issues to the suits. So, thank you, you've reminded me how the money so was not worth it. That said... @Soden For some reason I always seemed to get "Spice Girls - If you want to be my lover" and often in a short loop. The horror that kicks in when you realise you're absent mindedly humming along with it, is intense. rofl. When working for one firm we had a PC training room with a set of pc's in that that were bought in bulk, so all the same make/model ect... on which the disk drives had a fault which meant that after a while it just kept ejecting the disk drive, and wouldn't stay in (except with duck tape)... nothing fixed it so you just had to replace the drive... which is no biggie, but, being the new guy at the time, I had to call up the manufacturer whenever it happened and get them to send us the replacement (on warranty).... And every sodding time, I had some guy in India going through his book of questions... And trying to explain that given that I was second line IT support... I was the guy he would call when he couldn't solve my problem... Anyhow, Yes I hate it when they have pop songs on their loop... never got spice girls though... yet. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Yornic	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:47:00 - [538] Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. Please go here for more details. We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space. Update: Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible. Update @ 01:15 UTC: Tranquility is now online. An update has been published to this news post. Update @ 03:21 UTC: We are aware of the difficulties some of you have connecting to the EVE Online server and we're looking into it. Guard, I thought you were the Space 5.0 keeping EVE from destruction. No pimp cup for you! Just kidding.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:47:00 - [539] Whatever just happened. I can't begin to imagine...
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:51:00 - [540] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold Whatever just happened. I can't begin to imagine... well ticket gets escalated cause of gold member prioritized customer. After an hour it went to high management. Engaging the best of the network engineers on holidays who fixed the incompetence of others in teams with quick result and fixed it while on phone bridge with several their buddies at the same high position in different providers of network solutions. That would be my best guess.

Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:52:00 - [541] What i'm refering to is an event causing multiple networking companies to simultaniously reroute their things. I'm guessing that had to be quite a few and that there was a structure in place to that effect.
Zetler Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:57:00 - [542] Euroring changed to above.net
Katrina Raskin	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:57:00 - [543] Edited by: Katrina Raskin on 15/06/2011 04:02:11 Should have probably said this earlier, but didn't think of it. To those who shared their tracert logs, please edit out your router/home address (It's usually the second number, the one after 192.168...) just for your own safety. Unlikely to be an issue, but better to be safe. @Jaroslav Unwanted Aaah sounds like fun times, I was similar engaged there too at one point in the past, thought it'd get better when I got high enough to be considered management... Not so much =P @CCP Wrangler If it was something you and yours did, nice, far faster than I expected. And just in general, thanks to you and the team as well. edit @Soden Rah I think I only ever managed to convince someone to escalate/do what I asked them without going through the procedure twice... out of over a decade =P The "efficiency" people who came up with that have a special place reserved in hell, I hope. But, been nice posting with ya. Have a good one and good luck with things, especially IT and the music of doom. slides off to Eve
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:59:00 - [544] Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold What i'm refering to is an event causing multiple networking companies to simultaniously reroute their things. I'm guessing that had to be quite a few and that there was a structure in place to that effect. Its not that hard once you are on phone with others who got privileges to change things .. and got knowledge. aka CCNP. basically it can be changed by one command. xD but regular network engineers dont have sufficient rights.
Jormungandr Bastanold	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:00:00 - [545] Well it's 00:01 and i'm off to bed. Nighty night.
Gregor Tagent	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:01:00 - [546] thanks muchly guys, issue solved so QQ now ended, back to the old grinding, also if you would reimbers my lost domi, due to hardware failure that would be lovely

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:04:00 - [547] The connection issue should now be sorted, but please post in this thread if anyone has any problems to connect to the EVE Online server. Wrangler Senior Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.

Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:20:00 - [548] Originally by: CCP Wrangler The connection issue should now be sorted, but please post in this thread if anyone has any problems to connect to the EVE Online server. Good work guys. Hope you don't have to do this too often... Next question though... has/will this effect Incarna release schedule? __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:22:00 - [549] Well done CCP! Taking down the servers was the only good thing to do here.
ugh zug PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:25:00 - [550] Edited by: ugh zug on 15/06/2011 04:26:27 stuck loading the station in jita 4.4 bar full for 30 minutes now, a relog did not fix. edit oh it finally let me in.

Killskull Bonerot	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:26:00 - [551] Thank you CCP! You are heroes!!!
Ruri Mizushisi	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:27:00 - [552] Originally by: Graic Valente As per CCP's request: So much rage for such a small amount of time lost on the scale of things. Very rarely is EVE unavailable for people whose prime time gaming hour is about now. Whereas people with a prime time gaming time nearer to DT have to experience DT (which is just luck of the draw) but also have to put up with upgrades, patches of patches and extended DTs for server start up failures. These things happen, but any forum griping results in howls of contempt from others posting from other time zones. Insults and all types of abusive comments fly where the default position is personal attack without consideration for the frustrations of others. So I have sat here watching all this unholy rage unfold in front of this as for the first time a group unable to play for the first time in what must be a very, very long time post in a manner that makes me wonder why CCP even bother to keep the forum open. People who is the Oceanic region who have had patch after patch and extended DT for months don't rage for free skill points, nor demand compensation for lost gaming time. I could simply repeat all the usual comments that in our geography receive to you if we even mention extended outages, but I won't. Just remember how you feel now when we lose several evenings of play for your benefit and dare to complain. +1 Downtime starts at 7pm for me. Patches always cut into my playtime - ALWAYS. Like everyone else in Oceania, I deal with it. It's a bizarre feeling to wake up and find that I slept through an outage instead of losing playtime to it.

GM Zerat	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:29:00 - [553] Originally by: ugh zug stuck loading the station in jita 4.4 bar full for 30 minutes now, a relog did not fix. Petition that into the stuck character queue. You can send in a petition via the web if you can't login to any character (eveonline.com - Support - Create a new petition.) It might be a stuck issue that's unrelated to the networking issue mentioned in this thread, usually that can be quickly fixed by the Game Master working in the stuck character queue.

Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:32:00 - [554] Originally by: Ruri Mizushisi Downtime starts at 7pm for me. Patches always cut into my playtime - ALWAYS. Like everyone else in Oceania, I deal with it. It's a bizarre feeling to wake up and find that I slept through an outage instead of losing playtime to it. +1 Shoe's on the other foot, and ain't the other foot complaining. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Hendar Skir	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:32:00 - [555] Edited by: Hendar Skir on 15/06/2011 04:35:23 I can Connect to Server but then I get stuck on the entering station screen, the stations will not load. One Char got in, still trying to load jita 4-4
Pakhun Minmatar Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:42:00 - [556] SOUL CRUSHING LAG.....logging into jita 4-4....Fix your server and get DDOS protection kthanks.
Ruri Mizushisi	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:46:00 - [557] Originally by: Mara Rinn Originally by: Ruri Mizushisi Downtime starts at 7pm for me. Patches always cut into my playtime - ALWAYS. Like everyone else in Oceania, I deal with it. It's a bizarre feeling to wake up and find that I slept through an outage instead of losing playtime to it. +1 Shoe's on the other foot, and ain't the other foot complaining. I know, right? I'm almost - but only almost - feeling like a bad person for, on some level, finding this aspect of the whole situation rather funny. Meanwhile, seriously, total respect and love to CCP for handling this one brilliantly. I suspect a bunch of people lost a bunch of sleep over it, and I for one appreciate their efforts. It is in no way a sign of lack of faith in you the I have amended my skill queues to be as long as possible for the immediate future.
Francis Strange	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:11:00 - [558] Edited by: Francis Strange on 15/06/2011 05:12:20 Here we go again? Msg popped up - they are taking the server down.
Becka Call	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:11:00 - [559] got stuck in space; droppeed and can't connect now. Not looking good for CCP here.
jadal colmag Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:12:00 - [560] Are they at it again? Both my accounts just DCed and now when i go to log back in i get to charactor screen then eve just closes.

Hendar Skir	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:13:00 - [561] Just got ingaem message about server reboot
Seems Logical Captain	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:13:00 - [562] yep seems like its happening again.
kari bourza	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:14:00 - [563] You did the right thing CCP, dont bring it up again unless you are sure that its stable
Francis Strange	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:14:00 - [564] Emergency shut down - msg came up
Courdus Quinn	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:17:00 - [565] what am I gonna do, now I have to spend time with my family - DAMN YOU DDOS, DAMN YOU!!!!
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:23:00 - [566] A bunch of kiddies proud that they can stage a DDoS.
Doctor Brad	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:24:00 - [567] Looks like Tranquility is down again ...anyone else DCD? West coast USA here. I sincerely hope these amazingly knotheads do target the Fed Reserve, then they will find out just how serious it is when the various agencies are looking for your arse. My suggestion would be the same as Bin Laden - bullet between the eyes. Hopefully it won't take so long to find them...
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:24:00 - [568] so no solution yet?
Tyme Xandr Gallente United Eve Directorate	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:25:00 - [569] How do I remove my credit card information from your servers? Make it so theres no credit card attached and just continue playing with my mounds of PLEX?
Overview Check	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:25:00 - [570] Im off to bed. Look forward to flying again tomorrow. Keep up the good work CCP. I know alot of you are going to be pulling all-nighters on this one. Respect.

Maplestone	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:27:00 - [571] Originally by: Francis Strange Emergency shut down - msg came up I think I'm just going to imagine this whole incident as the grand finale of the Incusion content - the cyberzombies are assaulting everywhere and offlining everything and somewhere out there is a massive fleet battle I can't quite get to :)
mkint	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:27:00 - [572] I just have to say... in a game where the developers actively promote scamming, griefing, cheating, backstabbing, meta gaming, harassment, and a bunch of other things that would get you permabanned in other communities... well... lolkarma.
Jem McMerphy	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:28:00 - [573] Can not log, along with other accounts.
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:29:00 - [574] Building something complex is difficult. Tearing it down - is not. No respect to those who are unable to respect the work of others. Do something cool (=creative and constructive) next time. ------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :)
Naburi NasNaburi Coffee Lovers Brewing Club ROMANIAN-LEGION	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:36:00 - [575] Originally by: Zleon Leigh Originally by: Sister Virgin Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker The kids won't even have a clue about that one. lol +1 Ohh the memories :)
Tyme Xandr Gallente United Eve Directorate	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:37:00 - [576] Originally by: Naburi NasNaburi Originally by: Zleon Leigh Originally by: Sister Virgin Sister Virgin Aged, Retired, REAL Hacker and Phreaker The kids won't even have a clue about that one. lol +1 Ohh the memories :) Thank goodness for VOIP now huh ...
Gladni Jura	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:39:00 - [577] To resolve this DDoS attack and hunt down this gays, just pay some money to Sicilian Mafia, let they del with them. Maybe this is not the right legal way, but is very efficient. CCP keep the good work
Viani	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:43:00 - [578] I just wanted to put in my 2 cents and say good job CCP.. I'm sure you'll hear enough people complaining, and I wanted to put a few good words in on the other side of the board.
Adria Emmagan	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:48:00 - [579] While I realize this is not CCPs fault, do we get game time credit (a day or two?) or some free SP (or both...) for this? That would be nice. I haven't played at all today and I need to PLEX up soon and am nowhere near where I need to be and not being able to log in is kind of not helping. Just a thought, I'm sure other people are in a similar situation.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:51:00 - [580] Originally by: Ruri Mizushisi I'm almost - but only almost - feeling like a bad person for, on some level, finding this aspect of the whole situation rather funny. And yet by the next time we're facing three nights of extended downtime for Incarna 1.2 + client patch 1 + client patch 2, they'll have forgotten the events of today. sigh Quote: It is in no way a sign of lack of faith in [CCP] that I have amended my skill queues to be as long as possible for the immediate future. When the world give you lemons, make lemonade! -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]

Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:00:00 - [581] Originally by: Sarge Farris You guy's did a good job by Detecting the attack, and then shutting off the network access etc :) lol... "The server is down, hmm, being flooded here, DDoS, turn off the router" Detecting wouldn't have been too hard :-)
Euphonus	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:01:00 - [582] Doesn't matter if its CCP's fault or not, some compensation for their inability to provide the service paid for should be given, if only because you appreciate your customers, right CCP? I do have to quote someone else on this forum and say- "We're players of EVE Online- we sit and camp gates for hours on end, we grind rats, we wait for fleets to assemble and we fly in bonecrushing lag during fleet ops. We're used to this- do you really think you have more patience for ddos'ing this community than we have?" ~ Someone posted something like this somewhere in general discussion. I liked it.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:07:00 - [583] Originally by: Euphonus Doesn't matter if its CCP's fault or not, some compensation for their inability to provide the service paid for should be given, if only because you appreciate your customers, right CCP? I do have to quote someone else on this forum and say- "We're players of EVE Online- we sit and camp gates for hours on end, we grind rats, we wait for fleets to assemble and we fly in bonecrushing lag during fleet ops. We're used to this- do you really think you have more patience for ddos'ing this community than we have?" ~ Someone posted something like this somewhere in general discussion. I liked it. Do you realise the contradiction between those two paragraphs? -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Tyme Xandr Gallente United Eve Directorate	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:08:00 - [584] Originally by: Euphonus Doesn't matter if its CCP's fault or not, some compensation for their inability to provide the service paid for should be given, if only because you appreciate your customers, right CCP? I do have to quote someone else on this forum and say- "We're players of EVE Online- we sit and camp gates for hours on end, we grind rats, we wait for fleets to assemble and we fly in bonecrushing lag during fleet ops. We're used to this- do you really think you have more patience for ddos'ing this community than we have?" ~ Someone posted something like this somewhere in general discussion. I liked it. Im behind you man, lets continue complaining and im sure they will hand out some SPs. Worked when they moved servers.
Nyro Akirason	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:29:00 - [585] I hope all of you baby-faced whiners get hacked. Seems like every time something unexpected happens to this game, a certain group of players feel compelled to feast on cheese and wine until CCP gives them what they want. I do not feel that anyone is entitled to anything in circumstances like these. Businesses around the world are being targeted by these hacking groups for no reason at all. Unfortunately, CCP has been targeted and they are doing everything they can to protect our personal information from these hackers. I think that is compensation enough. CCP, thank you very much for doing everything in your power to keep our personal data safe. - Nyro
UGWidowmaker Caldari freelancers inc -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:33:00 - [586] seriously guys someone atacked our beloved hamsters.. now do we alow that or what OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned. {yellow]Signature which is prompting a login has been removed. Navigator[/yellow]
III ZiggyBang Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:39:00 - [587] this could take some time, be patient everybody. Good luck CCP. hope the internet cops get the bastards too
Adria Emmagan	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:48:00 - [588] Originally by: Nyro Akirason I hope all of you baby-faced whiners get hacked. Seems like every time something unexpected happens to this game, a certain group of players feel compelled to feast on cheese and wine until CCP gives them what they want. I do not feel that anyone is entitled to anything in circumstances like these. Businesses around the world are being targeted by these hacking groups for no reason at all. Unfortunately, CCP has been targeted and they are doing everything they can to protect our personal information from these hackers. I think that is compensation enough. For any other service, any time there is an outage you generally get a credit for it. When my website went down because someone DDoSed another site hosted by the same company I still got a week added to my billing for free. When my VPS went down because of a hard drive problem, their terms of service covered them from being liable, but since it was down 2 days I got an entire month for free. When my internet went down for a day I got a billing credit. Companies that value their customers always give them credit for things that inconvenience them, even when it's not the companies fault. That's how business works. If you like your customers you do things that make them happy, that includes going above and beyond.
OldWolf69	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:50:00 - [589] Tried to join the Help channel twice and got booted twice. Is this related to same problem?
Svalinn SOMER Blink Cognitive Development	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:56:00 - [590] Nothing legal, heroic or fun about DDoS attacks. It's not a case of "oh hai, your security is weak here" hacking, more a case of "Hmmm, we have a botnet with a DDoS cannon, who do we fire it at?" Escapist Magazine, Minecraft and League of Heroes were also knocked down. Escapist for apparently saying bad things about LulzSec, ujelly bro? I applaud the descision by CCP to go offline while they check, it is extremely difficult to function under sustained DDoS assaults, staying online isn't as simple as installing a firewall or telling the ISP. The perpetrators have knocked down other game companies, credit card companies, hacked government sites, so simple measures doesn't cut it. I'd rather lose a few hours of playing than find out my account details have been lifted from the servers. I think CCP's reaction was the best trade-off, it might provoke LulzSec again, but at least they should be better prepared for the next time. I'd also encourage the community to update anti-virus/anti-trojan software. Less people be infected with the software that helps power botnets and DDoS.

Nyro Akirason	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:56:00 - [591] Originally by: Adria Emmagan Originally by: Nyro Akirason I hope all of you baby-faced whiners get hacked. Seems like every time something unexpected happens to this game, a certain group of players feel compelled to feast on cheese and wine until CCP gives them what they want. I do not feel that anyone is entitled to anything in circumstances like these. Businesses around the world are being targeted by these hacking groups for no reason at all. Unfortunately, CCP has been targeted and they are doing everything they can to protect our personal information from these hackers. I think that is compensation enough. For any other service, any time there is an outage you generally get a credit for it. When my website went down because someone DDoSed another site hosted by the same company I still got a week added to my billing for free. When my VPS went down because of a hard drive problem, their terms of service covered them from being liable, but since it was down 2 days I got an entire month for free. When my internet went down for a day I got a billing credit. Companies that value their customers always give them credit for things that inconvenience them, even when it's not the companies fault. That's how business works. If you like your customers you do things that make them happy, that includes going above and beyond. Ya, it is called free expansions and content.
Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.06.15 06:59:00 - [592] Originally by: Nyro Akirason Ya, it is called free expansions and content. You're a moron. Do us all a favour and end yourself
Nyro Akirason	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:01:00 - [593] Edited by: Nyro Akirason on 15/06/2011 07:03:17 Originally by: Othran Originally by: Nyro Akirason Ya, it is called free expansions and content. You're a moron. Do us all a favour and end yourself No WOW is that way if you enjoy paying for expansions and content.
Seems Logical Captain	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:12:00 - [594] Originally by: UGWidowmaker seriously guys someone atacked our beloved hamsters.. now do we alow that or what Maybe PETA hired them...
Seems Logical Captain	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:16:00 - [595] Originally by: OldWolf69 Tried to join the Help channel twice and got booted twice. Is this related to same problem? no, the people in the help channel just hate you apparently. Its probably related, or they don't have anyone to monitor the help chan atm. something like that.
Oesophagus	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:16:00 - [596] Just managed to log in for an emergency skill-click Good job guys!
Naburi NasNaburi Coffee Lovers Brewing Club ROMANIAN-LEGION	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:23:00 - [597] Originally by: Adria Emmagan For any other service, any time there is an outage you generally get a credit for it. When my website went down because someone DDoSed another site hosted by the same company I still got a week added to my billing for free. When my VPS went down because of a hard drive problem, their terms of service covered them from being liable, but since it was down 2 days I got an entire month for free. When my internet went down for a day I got a billing credit. Companies that value their customers always give them credit for things that inconvenience them, even when it's not the companies fault. That's how business works. If you like your customers you do things that make them happy, that includes going above and beyond. Dont we push the I ACCEPT button when we log in/create an account? Quote: 12: NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. If CCP reimburses us with SP or ISK or an extra day, it is because they decided to do so, not because we pay for the service and they HAVE to reimburse us.
Prince Kobol	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:24:00 - [598] created a new post for this but was locked (sorry CCP Spitfire my bad :) I was following lulzsec and Eve Online twitter feeds last night and saw that somebody posted a link to Atlas website where they stated they had paid lulzsec to attack Eve. So I visited there website and there it was... they were claiming that they were responsible. As of this morning that message has been removed so these leads me to ask the following questions Was Atlas responsible or have a hand in the reason why lulzsec decided to attack Eve Online? Was Atlas hacked by another corp? Was it a stunt by somebody in Atlas it get some attention?
Seems Logical Captain	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:24:00 - [599] Prince Kobol Posted - 2011.06.15 07:11:00 - [1] I was following lulzsec and Eve Online twitter feeds last night and saw that somebody posted a link to Atlas website where they stated they had paid lulzsec to attack Eve. So I visited there website and there it was... they were claiming that they were responsible. As of this morning that message has been removed so these leads me to ask the following questions Was Atlas responsible or have a hand in the reason why lulzsec decided to attack Eve Online? Was Atlas hacked by another corp? Was it a stunt by somebody in Atlas it get some attention? Mister Smithington Posted - 2011.06.15 07:20:00 - [2] I saw the same news item on the atlas. killboard earlier. They were claiming it was a stunt in protest of one of their banned members. Probably just a useless boast. CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance Posted - 2011.06.15 07:21:00 - [3] Please keep the discussion here. Just moving the posts
Dal Gurak Minmatar Magma Dragon	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:27:00 - [600] CCP have been at this game for many years and have learnt alot. These situations show they are more than capable of looking after themselves and their customers. Especially in the state the world is in at the moment it's even harder to do that. CCP did a brilliant job as they always do and will always have my support. Another cold and lonely rainy day comes to an end. I have to clean my mind before I sleep or else I tend, to close my eyes and realise there's nothing there but light. I need shadow, I need darkness, to help me through the night.

Mag Theron Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:32:00 - [601] Thank you for the prompt action CCP. While I'm sure many people were frustrated about not being able to play the game for a couple of hours, I bet they would have been far more outraged by a "Codemasters" incident
Seems Logical Captain	Posted - 2011.06.15 07:34:00 - [602] are they mad that ccp was considering letting ion cannons fire on the planets (from dreads) and the confusion that might cause with their beloved Low Orbit Ion Cannons?
BLACK-STAR	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:03:00 - [603] "The hacker community was again busy Tuesday, with LulzSec targeting gaming companies like Minecraft and Eve Online. Hacker group LulzSec said it took down the Web site for CCP Games' EVE Online as well as Minecraft and Escapist Magazine. LulzSec said it "wiped out the login server for Eve Online," taking its Web site down, too." - PC MAG This guy is malevolent. He got his ion cannons off other cyber punks and just goes on a spree hitting anything without any justification (there was none for us, he just felt like it). Unfortunately you cannot prevent a DDOS attack and Lulzsec had enough competence to hit anyone without worrying about being traced. CCP can't do anything, but maybe reinforce the network 100-times fold, but that would be sometime SOON(TM).
Nadia Ruze	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:04:00 - [604] I have to say, this community is NOT one I'd want to hack, or pay someone else to hack. Plus, to even claim credit from ccp for banning a player? Really? I mean, do these individuals not know who CCP is? I truly expect a lot of perma-bans after this. Or maybe have the Jove wardec that alliance, and station camp them into oblivion. It's CCP's game, after all, and their game world.
vertpusher	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:09:00 - [605] why couldnt lulzsec hack blizzard?
Lin-Young Borovskova	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:14:00 - [606] THX CCP, good job. Has for the hacker /arm /finger /boot critical strike "Cancer killed thousands and keeps killing hundreds.Aids killed thousands and keeps killing hundreds. And human economics kill how many every day?"
Cyaxares II	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:17:00 - [607] Originally by: vertpusher why couldnt lulzsec hack blizzard? because they are likely to have taken precautions against ddos attacks? You want to select targets that are notorious enough to generate some publicity when hit (e.g. Linkage) but small enough that they won't have planned their infrastructure & procedures with that scenario in mind.
Prince Kobol	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:19:00 - [608] Edited by: Prince Kobol on 15/06/2011 08:20:34 Well looks Atlas are taking credit for the DDoS attack by lulzsec. "http://killboard.atlas-dot.net/?a=home THIS Is that is?De[ 2011-06-14 23:15:07 ] http://atlas-dot.net/ddos/daily_usage_201106.png DDosDemitrios[ 2011-06-14 19:52:45 ] KEEP IT COMING ***ES! :P FREE SHMAK DATASH!Demitrios[ 2011-06-14 18:34:54 ] We would like to annouce that Atlas. has paid LulzSec to carry out the final, and most important stage of Operation: Free Shmak Datash. TAKE THAT GM HORSE / NOVA! I await your pitiful attempt to attack me by banning my account, (naughty word)" This has now been taken down but they have also posted a youtube video stating they were responsible. Whether they are full of bull** and trolling or are indeed telling the truth If I was CCP I would just wipe Atlas of the face of the map for the lulz :)
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:21:00 - [609] Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. How can CCP be sure? Their logs always show nothing.
Seems Logical Captain	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:21:00 - [610] Originally by: vertpusher why couldnt lulzsec hack blizzard? Because blizzard would hire a hit team. I mean just look in the WOW EULA they reserve the right to take control of your computer while you are accessing their game with it.

Ciar Meara Amarr Virtus Vindice	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:24:00 - [611] Seems like a decent reaction, good call CCP. At least Eve-online is in the news today! And any publicity is good publicity! ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
Pthyxis Khungfachst	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:27:00 - [612] Edited by: Pthyxis Khungfachst on 15/06/2011 08:28:58 Dumb move to attack servers full of cyber-criminals playing thier favourite game. If the rumours of a revernge attack are true, it's like punching all the other mafia's in the face with a big plank for being caught by the rozzers. And DDOS is soooo lame, my 9 year old son could do it. As is listing directories from apache servers. Yeah we could all do the same, like overwhelm the emergency services with lame calls using diallers. It isn't big or clever, and it isn't exposing anything we don't already know. Anyone can become a terrorist, (it's not exactly difficult to achieve in life becoming a selfish egocentric criminal), blow up a train or a skyscr-aper - but that's not success is it? And I woudln't go bragging about it - that's even more dumb.
keserooz	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:29:00 - [613] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. How can CCP be sure? Their logs always show nothing. Miilla, your like a stuck f****ng record.... Why don't you just give it a rest..
Eolithic WithaTwist Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:33:00 - [614] Originally by: Seems Logical Captain Originally by: vertpusher why couldnt lulzsec hack blizzard? Because blizzard would hire a hit team. I mean just look in the WOW EULA they reserve the right to take control of your computer while you are accessing their game with it. wows EULA basically says you are blizzards latex ex slave while you have a subscription. ------------------------------------------- We Are Internet Spaceship Pilots. We do not forgive, we do not forget.
Kronir	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:34:00 - [615] Who else thinks that sooner or later Governments from around the world are going to put Internet restrictions in place as a reaction to these hackers?
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:36:00 - [616] Originally by: keserooz Originally by: Miilla Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. How can CCP be sure? Their logs always show nothing. Miilla, your like a stuck f****ng record.... Why don't you just give it a rest.. http://www.warcry.com/news/view/78140-EVE-Online-database-hacked-CCP-issues-statement Ahh yes, memories.
Prince Kobol	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:39:00 - [617] Edited by: Prince Kobol on 15/06/2011 08:39:12 Originally by: Kronir Who else thinks that sooner or later Governments from around the world are going to put Internet restrictions in place as a reaction to these hackers? Well the US has already said that it might get the Military involved as it considers lulzsec hacks to US sites to be terrorists attacks and such a threat to National Security
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:40:00 - [618] Originally by: Prince Kobol Originally by: Kronir Who else thinks that sooner or later Governments from around the world are going to put Internet restrictions in place as a reaction to these hackers? Well the US has already said that it might get the Military involved as it considers lulzsec hacks to US sites to be terrorists attacks and such a threat to Nation Security Yeah that's why the US has not siezed lulsecurity.com and Twitter still hasn't locked Lulsec's twitter publicity feed. Wonder why? Perhaps they are letting it happen so the hacker group support base turns against them, namely gamers and geeks. Psyops? Stinks like it more and more. Call the Lul request phone number, and you will probably find it is either Israelie or American accents/dialects.
Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:43:00 - [619] Edited by: Othran on 15/06/2011 08:42:55 Originally by: Prince Kobol Well the US has already said that it might get the Military involved as it considers lulzsec hacks to US sites to be terrorists attacks and such a threat to National Security The US considers just about anything to be "terrorist attacks" these days. Poster child of the boy who cried wolf
Prince Kobol	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:46:00 - [620] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Prince Kobol Originally by: Kronir Who else thinks that sooner or later Governments from around the world are going to put Internet restrictions in place as a reaction to these hackers? Well the US has already said that it might get the Military involved as it considers lulzsec hacks to US sites to be terrorists attacks and such a threat to Nation Security Yeah that's why the US has not siezed lulsecurity.com and Twitter still hasn't locked Lulsec's twitter publicity feed. Wonder why? Perhaps they are letting it happen so the hacker group support base turns against them, namely gamers and geeks. Psyops? Stinks like it more and more. Call the Lul request phone number, and you will probably find it is either Israelie or American accents/dialects. Lol.. actually you will find Miilla its was a automated system with the person speaking in a french accent

Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:46:00 - [621] Originally by: Prince Kobol Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Prince Kobol Originally by: Kronir Who else thinks that sooner or later Governments from around the world are going to put Internet restrictions in place as a reaction to these hackers? Well the US has already said that it might get the Military involved as it considers lulzsec hacks to US sites to be terrorists attacks and such a threat to Nation Security Yeah that's why the US has not siezed lulsecurity.com and Twitter still hasn't locked Lulsec's twitter publicity feed. Wonder why? Perhaps they are letting it happen so the hacker group support base turns against them, namely gamers and geeks. Psyops? Stinks like it more and more. Call the Lul request phone number, and you will probably find it is either Israelie or American accents/dialects. Lol.. actually you will find Miilla its was a automated system with the person speaking in a french accent Is it like the sitcom Allo' Allo'? Good moaning...
baltec1	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:46:00 - [622] Originally by: Miilla Yeah that's why the US has not siezed lulsecurity.com and Twitter still hasn't locked Lulsec's twitter publicity feed. Give them time...
Prince Kobol	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:48:00 - [623] Originally by: Othran Edited by: Othran on 15/06/2011 08:42:55 Originally by: Prince Kobol Well the US has already said that it might get the Military involved as it considers lulzsec hacks to US sites to be terrorists attacks and such a threat to National Security The US considers just about anything to be "terrorist attacks" these days. Poster child of the boy who cried wolf so true, I bet if you farted in the same building as Obama it would classed as a terrorist attack :)
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:49:00 - [624] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Miilla Yeah that's why the US has not siezed lulsecurity.com and Twitter still hasn't locked Lulsec's twitter publicity feed. Give them time... Yeah well after they do Bernanake and the Fed let's see if they need more time to think about it. Face it, the US us LETTING This happen because they know their core support base will turn against them as it is starting too now.
Naburi NasNaburi Coffee Lovers Brewing Club ROMANIAN-LEGION	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:50:00 - [625] Originally by: vertpusher why couldnt lulzsec hack blizzard? Probably because they want to play WOW after showing us their mad hacking skillz :P
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:52:00 - [626] Next up, STEAM. Imagine the problems then? Then again most likely they will not attack steam because they have THEIR games on it too lol.
keserooz	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:54:00 - [627] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: keserooz Originally by: Miilla Originally by: CCP Guard Dear friends. Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation. Your data was not compromised and we are back in action. How can CCP be sure? Their logs always show nothing. Miilla, your like a stuck f****ng record.... Why don't you just give it a rest.. http://www.warcry.com/news/view/78140-EVE-Online-database-hacked-CCP-issues-statement Ahh yes, memories. err, thats 2007... And the last time I looked we where in 2011... Old news is no news Miilla... Move on.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 08:58:00 - [628] Edited by: Miilla on 15/06/2011 09:06:12 Originally by: keserooz err, thats 2007... And the last time I looked we where in 2011... Old news is no news Miilla... Move on. Notice I said "memories". Old news, database breached and modified. Nothing to worry about. 2011, just a little DDOS. Nothing to worry about... just the fact that DDOSs are used to cover breaches often. Lulsec never leave empty handed, you should talk to Epic, they lost their password and email database, discovered after their site was DDOS'd on June 14th 2011, wait, that was the same day Lulsec DDOS'd CCP too. See the pattern of using DDOS's to cover breaches. See the history profile of lulsec, breach->steal data->DDOS http://mobile.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Sony-Data-Breach-Was-Camouflaged-by-Anonymous-DDoS-Attack-807651/
Kronir	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:11:00 - [629] Miila, yep that is the point Lulz are making; the security methods of all these firms are stuck in an outdated paradigm.
Dograzor The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:11:00 - [630] CCP, props to you to keeping our stuff safe. Crap like this can happen, and I know its a huge blow if someone is trying to take down a product you have worked on for so long. I hope you don't lose any customers due to this mess, & keep the good work coming - "We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value"

Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:15:00 - [631] Edited by: Miilla on 15/06/2011 09:16:43 Originally by: Kronir Miila, yep that is the point Lulz are making; the security methods of all these firms are stuck in an outdated paradigm. Yes don't worry, your details are safe... in a database.... out there... somewhere.. all warm and cozey... huddled together... with everbody else's data too... Come on then.... group hug..
BLACK-STAR	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:24:00 - [632] LulzSec The Lulz Boat @EveOnline our boats sunk your inferior spaceships, ujelly? ccp their steam boats took out the jovs aswell
Bad Brown	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:26:00 - [633] IMO What happened last night was pretty stupid on the part of Lulz. They are playing the tune those that would like to regulate the internet want to hear while alienating those that would normaly support this kind of action if done for the right reasons to the right orginisations.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:29:00 - [634] Originally by: Bad Brown IMO What happened last night was pretty stupid on the part of Lulz. They are playing the tune those that would like to regulate the internet want to hear while alienating those that would normaly support this kind of action if done for the right reasons to the right orginisations. You should read this... A lot think that is the purpose of it. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread716567/pg1 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread711767/pg1 and more....
Cyaxares II	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:30:00 - [635] Edited by: Cyaxares II on 15/06/2011 09:31:12 Originally by: Bad Brown IMO What happened last night was pretty stupid on the part of Lulz. They are playing the tune those that would like to regulate the internet want to hear while alienating those that would normaly support this kind of action if done for the right reasons to the right orginisations. IMO it was a pretty smart move because it reframes their media image from "cyber-terrorists attacking our most holy institutions" to "script-kiddies overstepping boundaries while having a bit of fun".
Capt Crashtest	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:39:00 - [636] Now I will never pretend to be hacker savvy by any means. I was under the impression lulz took the servers down not CCP. But whichever the case may be..... these idiots need to be found and well....buried. No trials no jail just gone. Ya I know it wont happen and my view is harsh but the only good hacker is a (fill in the blank) hacker feel free to flame me I probably deserve it.
cragz	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:51:00 - [637] constantly getting dc'd every 30 mintues since logging on this morning. When I checked my firewall log its blocking **** loads of pings from Eve US voice server. I mean litterally 4 per minute constantly even when I close the client down. Is this normal ? i dont think so. I mean is anyone else getting regularly disconnected ?
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:54:00 - [638] Originally by: cragz constantly getting dc'd every 30 mintues since logging on this morning. When I checked my firewall log its blocking **** loads of pings from Eve US voice server. I mean litterally 4 per minute constantly even when I close the client down. Is this normal ? i dont think so. I mean is anyone else getting regularly disconnected ? Don't use voice then.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:56:00 - [639] Originally by: Minntinni Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you. I second this. Sucks to have been unable to access Eve or the forums all day, but well worth the wait knowing that CCP was taking extreme precaution with our universe and our personal information. Kudos! ~Gnosis~
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:57:00 - [640] Edited by: Miilla on 15/06/2011 09:58:34 Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: Minntinni Thank you CCP for your quick action and your general professionalism about this whole thing. While some of the other sites hit went quiet, you let us know what was happening, took quick action to guarantee the safety of your customers, and got things going again as fast as possible. Today was a shining example of CCP doing everything right, and why you deserve my 15$ a month. Thank you. I second this. Sucks to have been unable to access Eve or the forums all day, but well worth the wait knowing that CCP was taking extreme precaution with our universe and our personal information. Kudos! Yes don't worry, your details are safe... in a database.... out there... somewhere.. all warm and cozey... huddled together... with everbody else's data too... .... group hug.. There there pat pat... It's all over now.... ... until next time...

Cpt Fina Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:58:00 - [641] Originally by: Kronir Miila, yep that is the point Lulz are making; the security methods of all these firms are stuck in an outdated paradigm. Cool, by the same logic those nlulz-ppl should give me their home adresses to that I can break into their apartments and make a point about home-protection. ... and maybe first aid readiness.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:59:00 - [642] Originally by: cragz ... blocking ** loads of pings from Eve US voice server. I mean litterally 4 per minute constantly even when I close the client down. ... Excuse me, but ... load of pings != 4 pings per minute. That's a ping every 60/4 = 15 seconds ... Also, what'll happen to **tlas now ? Ban them, call lawyers, anything ...
cragz	Posted - 2011.06.15 09:59:00 - [643] Edited by: cragz on 15/06/2011 10:04:43 Originally by: Miilla Originally by: cragz constantly getting dc'd every 30 mintues since logging on this morning. When I checked my firewall log its blocking **** loads of pings from Eve US voice server. I mean litterally 4 per minute constantly even when I close the client down. Is this normal ? i dont think so. I mean is anyone else getting regularly disconnected ? Don't use voice then. NVM voice is deactivated. This is annoying the hell out of me though.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 10:00:00 - [644] Originally by: cragz Originally by: Miilla Originally by: cragz constantly getting dc'd every 30 mintues since logging on this morning. When I checked my firewall log its blocking **** loads of pings from Eve US voice server. I mean litterally 4 per minute constantly even when I close the client down. Is this normal ? i dont think so. I mean is anyone else getting regularly disconnected ? Don't use voice then. Thats just it.. I DONT use eve voice ever ever never! Have you unchecked the voice box un audio settings?
Rellik B00n Lethal Death Squad	Posted - 2011.06.15 10:19:00 - [645] Edited by: Rellik B00n on 15/06/2011 10:21:53 Originally by: Cortith Barnacarus Jesus.. First Sony, now Bethesda, Nintendo, Codemasters, Epic Games, and even CCP?... Frak, what's the deal with these people? [tinfoil]I suspect 'these people' are in fact not the 'these people' that most people think they are! in a given situation ask "who benefits from this?" to give an example, a person or entity looking to generate popular support for a more draconian policing and regulation of the internet would be well placed as a result of all these attacks. not to mention using that example that a regulated internet is a taxed internet. It is also an internet where social networking cannot have an impact on a countries current laws for example concerning superinjunctions. [/tinfoil] edit: i did not in fact read the 22 pages of this thread before posting this. tinfoil is old tinfoil . -IRON MIKE IS hi sec lolwarrior-
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 10:22:00 - [646] Originally by: Rellik B00n Originally by: Cortith Barnacarus Jesus.. First Sony, now Bethesda, Nintendo, Codemasters, Epic Games, and even CCP?... Frak, what's the deal with these people? [tinfoil]I suspect 'these people' are in fact not the 'these people' that most people think they are! in a given situation ask "who benefits from this?" to give an example, a person or entity looking to generate popular support for a more draconian policing and regulation of the internet would be well placed as a result of all these attacks. not to mention using that example that a regulated internet is a taxed internet. It is also an internet where social networking cannot have an impact on a countries current laws for example concerning superinjunctions. [/tinfoil] http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/6/1/nato-report-threatens-persecute-anonymous/ NATO/Lulsec.
Misunderstood Genius	Posted - 2011.06.15 10:30:00 - [647] Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 15/06/2011 10:30:30 Dumb-D*ckheads-of-Stupidity
k0f4	Posted - 2011.06.15 10:55:00 - [648] Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:58:30 Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:56:25 Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 15/06/2011 10:30:30 Dumb-D*ckheads-of-Stupidity who? those who hacked or those who use outdated protection. don't be so quick to blame hackers, they do a very important job when it comes to networks. if we ever get to the stage where computers and information is safe, that will be because of the hackers. its very clear the last few weeks, alot of sys admins and company really don't give a rats bum to our information. using outdated software, not being bothered to patch KNOWN exploits, i could go on about this subject. The only downside to what is going on, is big company are now in bed with governments trying to make the internet into a fish pond. and sadly support is now growing, these groups are dead on right, it is a war. and why do people call them hackers, a hacker is someone who hacks into software, a cracker is someone who cracks into networks. last few years tho people don't refer to crackers and use hackers for everything :S
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:07:00 - [649] Originally by: k0f4 Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:58:30 Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:56:25 Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 15/06/2011 10:30:30 Dumb-Dckheads-of-Stupidity who? those who hacked or those who use outdated protection. don't be so quick to blame hackers, they do a very important job when it comes to networks. if we ever get to the stage where computers and information is safe, that will be because of the hackers. its very clear the last few weeks, alot of sys admins and company really don't give a rats bum to our information. using outdated software, not being bothered to patch KNOWN exploits, i could go on about this subject. The only downside to what is going on, is big company are now in bed with governments trying to make the internet into a fish pond. and sadly support is now growing, these groups are dead on right, it is a war. and why do people call them hackers, a hacker is someone who hacks into software, a cracker is someone who cracks into networks. last few years tho people don't refer to crackers and use hackers for everything :S Well thank *** for NATO-Lulzsec. releasing my credit card info from Sony. I feel safer already... No need to call the bank, no need to check statements, no need to change passwords.. Warm and cozey. Thanks NATO-Luzsec!
k0f4	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:17:00 - [650] Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 11:18:02 Originally by: Miilla Well thank **** for NATO-Lulzsec. releasing my credit card info from Sony. I feel safer already... No need to call the bank, no need to check statements, no need to change passwords.. Warm and cozey. Thanks NATO-Luzsec! i'd blame sony, for using outdated security patches which they knew about. and i'd blame sony for not encrypting all user information, i'd blame sony for poor customer care. sony was hit hard for a whole different reason though and was also thought to be multi groups.

Generals4	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:17:00 - [651] Edited by: Generals4 on 15/06/2011 11:19:26 Originally by: k0f4 Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:58:30 Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:56:25 Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 15/06/2011 10:30:30 Dumb-Dckheads-of-Stupidity who? those who hacked or those who use outdated protection. don't be so quick to blame hackers, they do a very important job when it comes to networks. if we ever get to the stage where computers and information is safe, that will be because of the hackers. its very clear the last few weeks, alot of sys admins and company really don't give a rats bum to our information. using outdated software, not being bothered to patch KNOWN exploits, i could go on about this subject. The only downside to what is going on, is big company are now in bed with governments trying to make the internet into a fish pond. and sadly support is now growing, these groups are dead on right, it is a war. and why do people call them hackers, a hacker is someone who hacks into software, a cracker is someone who cracks into networks. last few years tho people don't refer to crackers and use hackers for everything :S There is a difference between a hacker benevolently hacking into systems without stealing jack but just to report the failures of the security and morons who try to *** as many people up as they can by exploiting every security failure. And if it wasn't for the latter we wouldn't need top notch security on the net anyway.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:19:00 - [652] Edited by: Miilla on 15/06/2011 11:20:26 Originally by: k0f4 Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 11:18:02 Originally by: Miilla Well thank **** for NATO-Lulzsec. releasing my credit card info from Sony. I feel safer already... No need to call the bank, no need to check statements, no need to change passwords.. Warm and cozey. Thanks NATO-Luzsec! i'd blame sony, for using outdated security patches which they knew about. and i'd blame sony for not encrypting all user information, i'd blame sony for poor customer care. sony was hit hard for a whole different reason though and was also thought to be multi groups. And I blame Nato-Lulzsec for exploiting that and putting customers at risk. They did no favours. I don't care why they did it, fact is, they did it, and a lot of innocent people suffered from it. Their target was Sony, the people that paid, was the customers. Anon didn't actually hack Sony, others did. Anon is political, and goes after political targets. Not consumers.
Runa Sigrun	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:44:00 - [653] How about them free SP CCP? That is all.
DeODokktor Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:49:00 - [654] Edited by: DeODokktor on 15/06/2011 11:48:53 I think that a couple of accounts were stolen Miilla's was deffo one.. Ban that ip and that account until you can verify via a 3 week courier that the account is still okay ----------- Never Forget the joy of finding a main to link to a scammer alt. N-y-p-h-u-r ! !
Kehro Urgus Gallente Ab Obice Saevior	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:53:00 - [655] Originally by: DeODokktor Edited by: DeODokktor on 15/06/2011 11:48:53 I think that a couple of accounts were stolen Miilla's was deffo one.. Ban that ip and that account until you can verify via a 3 week courier that the account is still okay For the love of God, make it stop!
Goremageddon Box	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:53:00 - [656] Originally by: DeODokktor Edited by: DeODokktor on 15/06/2011 11:48:53 I think that a couple of accounts were stolen Miilla's was deffo one.. Ban that ip and that account until you can verify via a 3 week courier that the account is still okay +1. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:56:00 - [657] See Here Also. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Scarlet des Loupes Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2011.06.15 11:59:00 - [658] Originally by: Runa Sigrun How about them free SP CCP? That is all. Yes, free SP? Pretty please?
Lin-Young Borovskova	Posted - 2011.06.15 12:03:00 - [659] Originally by: Kronir Who else thinks that sooner or later Governments from around the world are going to put Internet restrictions in place as a reaction to these hackers? They need to find new laws to approve their existence and show they do something like freedom restrictions every day by the sake of your false security. For the meanwhile they tell you what to eat to drink how to drive how to breath and how to have sex. Be a good sheep. Support them and their holy economies making you a better slave each and every day. "Cancer killed thousands and keeps killing hundreds.Aids killed thousands and keeps killing hundreds. And human economics kill how many every day?"
Ga'len Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.06.15 12:17:00 - [660] Edited by: Ga''len on 15/06/2011 12:17:36 CCP, Props to you folks. IMHO, you handled this the best way you could. Thank you for keeping our "stuff" safe.

Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 12:25:00 - [661] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 12:36:44 Originally by: k0f4 Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:58:30 Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:56:25 Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 15/06/2011 10:30:30 Dumb-Dckheads-of-Stupidity who? those who hacked or those who use outdated protection. don't be so quick to blame hackers, they do a very important job when it comes to networks. if we ever get to the stage where computers and information is safe, that will be because of the hackers. its very clear the last few weeks, alot of sys admins and company really don't give a rats bum to our information. using outdated software, not being bothered to patch KNOWN exploits, i could go on about this subject. The only downside to what is going on, is big company are now in bed with governments trying to make the internet into a fish pond. and sadly support is now growing, these groups are dead on right, it is a war. and why do people call them hackers, a hacker is someone who hacks into software, a cracker is someone who cracks into networks. last few years tho people don't refer to crackers and use hackers for everything :S Yep and armed drug cartells do very good job of keeping narcotic police awarness and readiness. Regular Murderers do the great job of employing police. arsonist do great job in keeping fireman well equiped. Rapist do great job of forcing women to learn sufficient self-defence ? Shell i continue.... We as an species are truly ***ed when you archieve so high moral relativity that you actually can see the point, which isnt there. As for the rest of your point... could or could not be... Not that it essentially matters since world wide civil war is on the way, it goes slowly but it will reach us.
Martin Lloydd	Posted - 2011.06.15 12:58:00 - [662] ^^^ Actually, hackers ARE the forefront of computer security technology. Every single advancement in computer security has been driven by hackers. This is something you always have to be on top of, otherwise... well, you get a situation like what happened here... or worse. Look how things went for Sony for instance. You can nay-say it all you want, but that's not going to change the truth of the statement.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 12:59:00 - [663] Originally by: Martin Lloydd ^^^ Actually, hackers ARE the forefront of computer security technology. Every single advancement in computer security has been driven by hackers. This is something you always have to be on top of, otherwise... well, you get a situation like what happened here... or worse. Look how things went for Sony for instance. You can nay-say it all you want, but that's not going to change the truth of the statement. Good, let's put your bank account into the foreground of security technology. Nay-say that.
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.15 13:02:00 - [664] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 15/06/2011 13:04:17 Originally by: Martin Lloydd ^^^ Actually, hackers ARE the forefront of computer security technology. Every single advancement in computer security has been driven by hackers. This is something you always have to be on top of, otherwise... well, you get a situation like what happened here... or worse. Look how things went for Sony for instance. You can nay-say it all you want, but that's not going to change the truth of the statement. You mabe true... I guess you are. But isnt that kind of **ed up. I mean leaders of "industry" are criminals, Leaders of nation are criminals too.. And we who get JWF/jolly well **ed by system/ are defending them. I mean really people .. What kind of stupid animals are we ? @Milia : Ave still selling completed fit hulk xD
Zahira Wrath Amarr Dominion Strategic	Posted - 2011.06.15 13:38:00 - [665] Edited by: Zahira Wrath on 15/06/2011 13:38:37 Awesome job CCP. Glad you guys had the balls to pull the plug and protect the game and our personal information. You guys rock. Edit:spelling
Misunderstood Genius	Posted - 2011.06.15 14:26:00 - [666] Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:56:25 Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 15/06/2011 10:30:30 Dumb-Dckheads-of-Stupidity who? those who hacked or those who use outdated protection. don't be so quick to blame hackers, they do a very important job when it comes to networks. if we ever get to the stage where computers and information is safe, that will be because of the hackers. its very clear the last few weeks, alot of sys admins and company really don't give a rats bum to our information. using outdated software, not being bothered to patch KNOWN exploits, i could go on about this subject. The only downside to what is going on, is big company are now in bed with governments trying to make the internet into a fish pond. and sadly support is now growing, these groups are dead on right, it is a war. and why do people call them hackers, a hacker is someone who hacks into software, a cracker is someone who cracks into networks. last few years tho people don't refer to crackers and use hackers for everything :S I'll give a sht on your little fail-excuse-lesson. Let me just repeat: Dumb-D*ckheads-of-Stupidity.
Robdon Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.06.15 14:51:00 - [667] Originally by: Zahira Wrath Edited by: Zahira Wrath on 15/06/2011 13:38:37 Awesome job CCP. Glad you guys had the balls to pull the plug and protect the game and our personal information. You guys rock. Edit:spelling Have to agree with this. I would much prefer the game down for a bit, if they thought there was the possibility that the servers could become compromised. After all, NO computer is immune from hacking, its just a matter of trying to combat the attacks as they come. Of course, some things are avoidable (usernames/passwds in a text file anyone?) but, if they felt this was the correct thing to do at that time, and to be honest, this group of hackers have proved they will attack hand out data to anyone... I would say that pulling the plug was the correct way to go...
Isidore Tailleur Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.15 14:53:00 - [668] Originally by: Sarge Farris You guy's did a good job by Detecting the attack, and then shutting off the network access etc :) So yeah good job all in all! No risk of the "attacker" getting any info if they can't access the network :P hugz for CCP Maybe you should do a better job of explaining to people what a DDOS is to stop nonsense panicking about account information too... Detecting a successful DDOS takes zero skills. No one can access the service anymore, it is kinda fing obvious what has happened unless you brought it down yourself... Also a ddos attack makes the server inaccessibly to anyone, including the attackers. So they can't get your account information because they no one can access any information at all, which is the hole point of the attack.
Todd4921	Posted - 2011.06.15 15:04:00 - [669] is it just me whos skills I was currently training got reset to untrained? I had trained up Electronic upgrades lvl4(Evemon said it had finished) and when i got back on tranq it was as though i had never started training it.
dosperado Denial of Service Freelancer Coalition	Posted - 2011.06.15 15:36:00 - [670] LULZSEC - Set sail to jail. ____________________ Security Status 9.0

BIZZAROSTORMY	Posted - 2011.06.15 16:27:00 - [671] from the Abovetopsecret forums: "I hope to hell that there are a lot of EvE players in AnonOps and they make a go at LulzSec. Time for a god damn Cyber Civil War. It'll be interesting to see if LulzSec gets any retaliation out of Russia. EvE has a very large contingent of Russian players, mostly pvpers too" I would assume that eve has its fair share of 1337 haxorz, I know for sure eve players know how to 'infiltrate' a group and make all their base belong to them. So on paper it's only a matter of time before 'lulsec' find their personal info up on bittorrent, (for the lulz). At least I hope so.
Zes Rex	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:19:00 - [672] Agreed Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 23:45:05 Is there a plan in place or changes being reviewed to prevent mitigate such attacks in future? Also, why can we not change our account payment details (Credit cards) until 30 days game time remains, that is ludicrious. How about not storing it at all (or opt in) and let us enter it when we want to add more game time, therefore mitigating breach risk even more.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:19:00 - [673] Its begun again http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1528622
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:29:00 - [674] Is CCP working with the ISPs flooding the servers, and Twitter / Lulz domain hosters to get them taken down? What is CCP doing? Can somebody update us?
Orlacc	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:29:00 - [675] The lulz kids have left too many footprints lately. Expect headlines soon.
Adelain Niska Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:30:00 - [676] Originally by: Martin Lloydd Every single advancement in computer security has been driven by hackers. Every single one? Can you list them. ---- My reputation is not solid.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:31:00 - [677] YOU LOCKED MY THREAD !!!!!!! pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff lol Thanks, now i know you guys noticed! :)
Yoshitaka Moromuo Distant Light Galactic Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:31:00 - [678] Miilla, drop the doubleposts and annoying bolded caps. They merely showcase your lackluster trolling ability. 0/10. Talk normal, make serious points, and don't post for the sake of posting. Otherwise, GTFO.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:32:00 - [679] Guess we have to change our passwords, yet again.
Atticus Fynch Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:33:00 - [680] Originally by: Miilla Is CCP working with the ISPs flooding the servers, and Twitter / Lulz domain hosters to get them taken down? What is CCP doing? Can somebody update us? Shhh....that's classified.

Gorbl	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:33:00 - [681] Originally by: Yo**aka Moromuo Miilla, drop the doubleposts and annoying bolded caps. They merely showcase your lackluster trolling ability. 0/10. Talk normal, make serious points, and don't post for the sake of posting. Otherwise, GTFO. My first post, and it's a +1
Calluna Riraille	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:34:00 - [682] Edited by: Calluna Riraille on 15/06/2011 17:35:45 Reason why the twitter feed, etc. is still up because every time they post to it and so on it gives more information that can be used to track them down.
Renee Morris	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:34:00 - [683] http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/81038533204246528 HoN is lame, it's almost the evening... and you know what the EVEning brings... bwahahaha @EVEOnline your time is coming! Sort your skills and dock up :)
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:36:00 - [684] Originally by: Calluna Riraille Reason why the twitter feed, etc. is still up because every time they post to it and so on it gives more information that can be used to track them down. Yeah, they won't ever put somethiong fake on it to get somebody else bracing for war, then they hit somebody not suspecting it. There is a reason they don't hit steam. They probably cannot take down steam, too many servers spread all over and they have their own games on it .
James Moroci	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:36:00 - [685] we should war dec lolsec
Yoshitaka Moromuo Distant Light Galactic Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:38:00 - [686] Edited by: Yo**aka Moromuo on 15/06/2011 17:41:59 Originally by: James Moroci we should war dec lolsec Don't need to - the numerous data breaches and intentional business disruptions should give any legal system enough ammo to one-shot 'em. EDIT: Oh, nice. They went and forwarded their call-line to the FBI regional office in Detroit. Really smart, Lulzsec, giving LEOs reason to partyvan you. EDIT2: Sheesh, editing or quoting still bleeps my name? Can we get a proper contextual text filter sometime?
Rugh Gutrippa	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:40:00 - [687] Originally by: Renee Morris http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/81038533204246528 Sort your skills and dock up :) Thanks for the reminder
Atticus Fynch Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:43:00 - [688] Well, based on the number of threads getting locked in General again, it can mean one of two things. 1. CCP Zymurgist's shift has started. or 2. The sirens are beginning to wail in the background. Everyone duck and cover like they taught you in school. They still teach that right? What do you mean the Soviet Union is no more? Ouch!! My arthritis is acting up, dammit.
Ingvar Angst Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:43:00 - [689] Dear LulzSec mmebers... There won't be any more lulz when your cellmate decides that he doesn't care if you're out of astroglide...
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:46:00 - [690] Autists on a power trip. --------

Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:46:00 - [691] Edited by: Miilla on 15/06/2011 17:50:23 Eve market is getting sluggish Thats a bad sign. Forums slowing up and im not even loading images
0hai	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:46:00 - [692] I live outside of Detroit. I'm going to tell you all, it's the last place on earth you want to spam calls. Not only is this one of the most dangerous areas in the country, LulzSec is making it difficult to protect people around the area and get their jobs done. As Much as I love EVE, DDOs attacks against the FBI is putting lives in danger. Period. Originally by: Gladys Pank My erections will stand proud forever.
Atticus Fynch Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:48:00 - [693] Originally by: 0hai I live outside of Detroit. I'm going to tell you all, it's the last place on earth you want to spam calls. Not only is this one of the most dangerous areas in the country, LulzSec is making it difficult to protect people around the area and get their jobs done. As Much as I love EVE, DDOs attacks against the FBI is putting lives in danger. Period. You should move. I did.
Cebraio	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:48:00 - [694] @CCP There doesn't seem to be an option to clear the credit-card details from our accounts! Please provide one! (I just made a new payment through PayPal, because of the shallow hope that this will override my CC information. While this new payment is good for you, I'm afraid my CC info is still in your DB and I'm not feeling comfortable with it!)
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:49:00 - [695] Edited by: Miilla on 15/06/2011 17:49:11 Sorry double post due to lag. Please remove.
0hai	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:49:00 - [696] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Originally by: 0hai I live outside of Detroit. I'm going to tell you all, it's the last place on earth you want to spam calls. Not only is this one of the most dangerous areas in the country, LulzSec is making it difficult to protect people around the area and get their jobs done. As Much as I love EVE, DDOs attacks against the FBI is putting lives in danger. Period. You should move. I did. I used to live in the Burbs, I'm out near A2 these days, so it's sort of a non-issue for me and my family. Originally by: Gladys Pank My erections will stand proud forever.
Xenuria Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:54:00 - [697] LulzSec Is Not Finished With Eve "Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 17:57:00 - [698] I'll go grab me a beer. Why do i tell you that ? Because it doesn't matter. Yes. Just like Chewbacca. But, what does Chewbacca have to do with this ? Absolutely nothing. It. Does. Not. Make. Sense.
Yoshitaka Moromuo Distant Light Galactic Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:00:00 - [699] Originally by: Solstice Project I'll go grab me a beer. Why do i tell you that ? Because it doesn't matter. Yes. Just like Chewbacca. But, what does Chewbacca have to do with this ? Absolutely nothing. It. Does. Not. Make. Sense. Dear God, he's using the Chewbacca defense!
StarRanger Gallente Royal Star Ranger Family	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:02:00 - [700] Good job on handling the situation, ccp, cheers for protecting our game!

Kewso	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:02:00 - [701] bah get ready for another outage tonight :( http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec Quote: LulzSec The Lulz Boat HoN is lame, it's almost the evening... and you know what the EVEning brings... bwahahaha @EVEOnline your time is coming! 1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply ----------------------- A Dysfunctional Playground
Cunane Jeran Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:09:00 - [702] I look forward to a night of real life ship spinning waiting for it to end. God this is what carebears must feel like during a wardec :P
Chandler Urandom	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:13:00 - [703] The real question is "Will they blend?" I put 1b in the pool for anyone who is able to put one of those social outcasts in a blender. Seriously, mah internet spaceships are iz business!
Pans Exual Minmatar Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:13:00 - [704] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 15/06/2011 17:50:23 Eve market is getting sluggish Thats a bad sign. Forums slowing up and im not even loading images I don't have to put my glasses on to read your posts. Very handy.
Yoshitaka Moromuo Distant Light Galactic Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:14:00 - [705] Originally by: Chandler Urandom The real question is "Will they blend?" I put 1b in the pool for anyone who is able to put one of those social outcasts in a blender. Seriously, mah internet spaceships are iz business! "Scriptkiddie smoke - don't breathe this!"
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:16:00 - [706] Are we down yet? --------
Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:18:00 - [707] FWIW CCP didn't have a lot of choice in what they did - ie dropping routes. From within the same facility that Eve is housed it was more than apparent that all was not well on that segment and peering segments associated with the routing adverts. AIUI one of the advertised "attractions" of where CCP is hosted is dDoS amelioration. Didn't work. Doubt it was ever there as L3 is cutting EVERYTHING now. Worth bearing in mind - we've all been let down, its what you do after that matters.
Iva Posavec Posavec Innovations Takhar Matari	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:19:00 - [708] Originally by: Abrazzar Are we down yet? I have seen hundreds of posts on these forums over the years asking "is it up yet" but this has to be the first time I have ever seen an "are we down yet" post. Alliance Creation
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:19:00 - [709] Originally by: Yo**aka Moromuo Originally by: Solstice Project I'll go grab me a beer. Why do i tell you that ? Because it doesn't matter. Yes. Just like Chewbacca. But, what does Chewbacca have to do with this ? Absolutely nothing. It. Does. Not. Make. Sense. Dear God, he's using the Chewbacca defense! LOL :D Thanks for that laugh, i'm glad somebody notices ! :D
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:31:00 - [710] This reminds me of AFK cloakers, tbh. Lulzsec HINTS only they are coming after EvE again, but there's the possiblity this was just said because they want us to wait for it and get us angry about it. Now they let us wait until we stop caring about it and then they'll strike again. pffffffffffff

J Random Tax Protestants Epsilon Shimmy Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:44:00 - [711] Yawn, this reminds me of IRC disco/split/node wars in the 90's back when the were just DoS's. What's funny is you can tell the amount of kids on Eve in the way folk are reacting to the DDoS, like it's a new problem or the world will end or what's happening is new / novel / etc. The don't remember the DoS's in the early 90's or significantly bigger events that took down most of the internet (remember blaster? how about with alternic DNS poisoned the root, etc). I do wish when this was all said and done CCP would release a technical AAR. Curious what the sustained bandwidth rates were and edge pps drop rates (if any). I.e. curious the problem was CCP (DDoS exceeded their burst capacity and/or the cost wasn't worth it because sustainment at burst levels) or if they actually managed to exceed CCP's ILEC or tier 2 / 3 provider. Also curious if the DDoS was layer 7 related (i.e. the routers kept up fine, it was the proxies/fw/iP\|Ds/etc which failed) De Oppresso Liber
Cery Madstar	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:46:00 - [712] Edited by: Cery Madstar on 15/06/2011 18:46:45 Originally by: J Random ... I.e. curious the problem was CCP (DDoS exceeded their burst capacity and/or the cost wasn't worth it because sustainment at burst levels) or if they actually managed to exceed CCP's ILEC or tier 2 / 3 provider. Also curious if the DDoS was layer 7 related (i.e. the routers kept up fine, it was the proxies/fw/iP\|Ds/etc which failed) we get it, you're brilliant
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:50:00 - [713] Originally by: J Random Yawn, this reminds me of IRC disco/split/node wars in the 90's back when the were just DoS's. What's funny is you can tell the amount of kids on Eve in the way folk are reacting to the DDoS, like it's a new problem or the world will end or what's happening is new / novel / etc. The don't remember the DoS's in the early 90's or significantly bigger events that took down most of the internet (remember blaster? how about with alternic DNS poisoned the root, etc). I do wish when this was all said and done CCP would release a technical AAR. Curious what the sustained bandwidth rates were and edge pps drop rates (if any). I.e. curious the problem was CCP (DDoS exceeded their burst capacity and/or the cost wasn't worth it because sustainment at burst levels) or if they actually managed to exceed CCP's ILEC or tier 2 / 3 provider. Also curious if the DDoS was layer 7 related (i.e. the routers kept up fine, it was the proxies/fw/iP\|Ds/etc which failed) Well, i didn't notice any BBS-wars back then, altough i knew what BBSs were and it was my era and there definitly were some. I did notice BLASTER ... i think ... yeah. You're confusing age with knowledge/careing. Most ppl either don't know or don't give a ****. Apart from other reasons i can't think of right now. The people you are referring to really either are too young to get it, or they simply forgot (ppl forget SO MUCH that happened even recently), or they just don't know anything about it because they lack deeper knowledge, which connects in some way to the "i don't care"-reason. Please remember that generalisations usually are wrong, because all of life is just possibilites of things happening. Language Barrier hits me hard now...
Mar Goa	Posted - 2011.06.15 18:52:00 - [714] Edited by: Mar Goa on 15/06/2011 18:51:49 Originally by: J Random Yawn, Yawn. /wave
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:08:00 - [715] First Aid for the lulz -> Boot to the head (ingame). Solution attempt for the lulz -> Steel bars, hairy guy, soap, shower (ingame). Final solution for the lulz -> Headshot behind some random barn (ingame). Do not try this at home. All suggested events were fictional and for ingame use only. Aiming firearms towards bodyparts and pulling the trigger will cause painfull injury or death. No lulz or other ken-doll collectors were harmed during the shower session. "Boot to the head" is trademark owned by world of teencraft. Headshot gives best lulz when performed with shotgun. ------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :)
Shieko Chan	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:18:00 - [716] Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:56:25 Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 15/06/2011 10:30:30 Dumb-D*ckheads-of-Stupidity who? those who hacked or those who use outdated protection. don't be so quick to blame hackers, they do a very important job when it comes to networks. No, they don't. It's not their job. They aren't doing anything out of the "goodness" of their hearts. If they were they would have quietly contacted security. Saying the hackers are doing service is like saying that the neighbors dog is doing you a service when he poops on your lawn...because he is showing you your lawn is not protected against dog poop. yeah, thanks for the poop...
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:26:00 - [717] Edited by: Solstice Project on 15/06/2011 19:26:46 spelling Originally by: Shieko Chan Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: k0f4 on 15/06/2011 10:56:25 Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 15/06/2011 10:30:30 Dumb-D*ckheads-of-Stupidity who? those who hacked or those who use outdated protection. don't be so quick to blame hackers, they do a very important job when it comes to networks. No, they don't. It's not their job. They aren't doing anything out of the "goodness" of their hearts. If they were they would have quietly contacted security. Saying the hackers are doing service is like saying that the neighbors dog is doing you a service when he poops on your lawn...because he is showing you your lawn is not protected against dog poop. yeah, thanks for the poop... You're confusing Hackers with Crackers. Read it up. Also, your argument is flawed. If you have a car accident and are at conciousness, you'd want ppl to help you and not stay around and say "I'm not qualified to help you" and they watch you die. Hackers do and did a great service to the internet-community, you just do not know better. What you are talking about, are Crackers. The "bad" equivalent of Hackers. Hackers are "bad" because media doesn't distinguish between Hackers and Crackers.
Dr Jan Itor	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:37:00 - [718] Originally by: Solstice Project You're confusing Hackers with Crackers. Read it up. [...] What you are talking about, are Crackers. The "bad" equivalent of Hackers. Today those two are essentially synonyms; dictionary publishers have even started listing them as the same. Read it up. Judging from context everyone knows what one is talking about, anyway, so there are no practical reasons to differentiate those two.
Burhtun	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:45:00 - [719] Angelina Jolie is a hacker. So is the girl from Jurassic Park and the girl from RoboCop 3. just FYI. Maybe keep an eye on them?
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:49:00 - [720] Originally by: Dr Jan Itor Originally by: Solstice Project You're confusing Hackers with Crackers. Read it up. [...] What you are talking about, are Crackers. The "bad" equivalent of Hackers. Today those two are essentially synonyms; dictionary publishers have even started listing them as the same. Read it up. Judging from context everyone knows what one is talking about, anyway, so there are no practical reasons to differentiate those two. rollseyes Just because people sheeplessly started to put both of them in one pot (media!) doesn't mean both of them should be in the same pot, even if many, many sheep are implying so. (MEDIA!!! HELLO???) Hackers != Crackers. Not distinguishing between them totally distorts the facts. Not distinguishing between them puts them in the same pot and makes good guys look like bad guys, which is totally, absolutely BULL**** ! Words have meanings for a reason ! Being brainwashed about the meanings of words doesn't change the meanings at all, it just changes the way people perceive a topic and everyone that's related to it !

Dr Jan Itor	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:50:00 - [721] Originally by: Burhtun Angelina Jolie is a hacker. I was so disappointed when I realized hacking didn't involve fancy visuals and pretty colours. Biggest downer of a young man's early computing endeavors.
Aloe Cloveris The Greater Goon	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:51:00 - [722] Originally by: J Random Yawn, this reminds me of IRC disco/split/node wars in the 90's back when the were just DoS's. What's funny is you can tell the amount of kids on Eve in the way folk are reacting to the DDoS, like it's a new problem or the world will end or what's happening is new / novel / etc. The don't remember the DoS's in the early 90's or significantly bigger events that took down most of the internet (remember blaster? how about with alternic DNS poisoned the root, etc). I do wish when this was all said and done CCP would release a technical AAR. Curious what the sustained bandwidth rates were and edge pps drop rates (if any). I.e. curious the problem was CCP (DDoS exceeded their burst capacity and/or the cost wasn't worth it because sustainment at burst levels) or if they actually managed to exceed CCP's ILEC or tier 2 / 3 provider. Also curious if the DDoS was layer 7 related (i.e. the routers kept up fine, it was the proxies/fw/iP\|Ds/etc which failed) Nerd.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 19:55:00 - [723] Originally by: Dr Jan Itor Originally by: Burhtun Angelina Jolie is a hacker. I was so disappointed when I realized hacking didn't involve fancy visuals and pretty colours. Biggest downer of a young man's early computing endeavors. lol noob. (sorry xD) Sometimes it only involved a browser and a malfunctioning server/CGI combination ...cough
Dr Jan Itor	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:04:00 - [724] Edited by: Dr Jan Itor on 15/06/2011 20:04:24 Originally by: Solstice Project rollseyes Shrugs Originally by: Solstice Project Just because people sheeplessly started to put both of them in one pot (media!) doesn't mean both of them should be in the same pot, even if many, many sheep are implying so. (MEDIA!!! HELLO???) 1) Please do enlighten me why it is practical to differentiate the two terms. 2) Again, dictionaries list them with similar/equal meaning. Languages evolve; the meaning of words change. If you choose to continue to use them with the meaning they had way back when, that's your choice, but it doesn't make it anymore right. Calling people who follow evolving language's progression for "sheep" certainly doesn't make you more right. 3) Why do you insist on capitalizing "hacker" and "cracker"? They're not proper nouns. 4) "Sheeplessly"? Sheepishly, maybe?
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:11:00 - [725] Edited by: Solstice Project on 15/06/2011 20:13:14 Originally by: Dr Jan Itor Edited by: Dr Jan Itor on 15/06/2011 20:04:24 Originally by: Solstice Project rollseyes Shrugs Originally by: Solstice Project Just because people sheeplessly started to put both of them in one pot (media!) doesn't mean both of them should be in the same pot, even if many, many sheep are implying so. (MEDIA!!! HELLO???) 1) Please do enlighten me why it is practical to differentiate the two terms. 2) Again, dictionaries list them with similar/equal meaning. Languages evolve; the meaning of words change. If you choose to continue to use them with the meaning they had way back when, that's your choice, but it doesn't make it anymore right. Calling people who follow evolving language's progression for "sheep" certainly doesn't make you more right. 3) Why do you insist on capitalizing "hacker" and "cracker"? They're not proper nouns. 4) "Sheeplessly"? Sheepishly, maybe? 4) Yes, meant sheepishly ... language barrier, thx. :) 3) I'm probably used to it, because i'm native german speaking. But not from germany. 2) Yes, languages evolve and i'm not argueing about that. What's wrong here is that the media made this happen because they don't care. People don't care either or are just too dumb to inform themselves ... which makes it worse. 1) Easy. When i tell you i was a semi-famous hacker within my group back in the early 90s and you know the difference, you'll ask me about what i did and so on. When you don't know the difference, you'll think of me as a criminal, which should be put into jail. Hackers get criminalized, altough Crackers are the criminals. For further reference, think about Chaos Computer Club. That's my point. (sorry for the language barrier...)
Djavo Selectus Pravus Lupus Transmission Lost	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:15:00 - [726] I hacked my wife up.
Bifordus Maximus	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:17:00 - [727] Now is a good time to train that 30 day skill. Its a shame that there are people who just want to cause havok. They may be after CCP and other companies for whatever reason, but taking it out on everyone else is not the way (translation: terrorist). When they get caught it would be nice to see them get taken out Bin Laden style.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:24:00 - [728] Edited by: Solstice Project on 15/06/2011 20:24:28 Originally by: Bifordus Maximus Now is a good time to train that 30 day skill. Its a shame that there are people who just want to cause havok. They may be after CCP and other companies for whatever reason, but taking it out on everyone else is not the way (translation: terrorist). When they get caught it would be nice to see them get taken out Bin Laden style. These guys are no terrorists. That's sheepish mediaspeek. They do not cause anyone any physical harm and definitly no terror ! Are you US-American ? (no insult, a serious question so i can think about why you're wording them that way) (also ... you suck for wishing some guys, who didn't kill anybody, death! think about it. please!)
Ghost Rider86 Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:26:00 - [729] https://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/81094011619770368 The EVEning is approaching...
MrCoolShades	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:27:00 - [730] LulzSec The Lulz Boat The EVEning is approaching... Those bastards!

Miagi Sans Amarr PURgE-Corp PURgE Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:29:00 - [731] batten down the hatches...
Dr Jan Itor	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:31:00 - [732] Edited by: Dr Jan Itor on 15/06/2011 20:32:16 Originally by: Solstice Project Originally by: Solstice Project 3) I'm probably used to it, because i'm native german speaking. But not from germany. Fair enough. It just puts me off a bit when reading through. Originally by: Solstice Project 2) Yes, languages evolve and i'm not argueing about that. What's wrong here is that the media made this happen because they don't care. People don't care either or are just too dumb to inform themselves ... which makes it worse. What I was getting at was that differentiating hacker and cracker is a bit like calling some programming languages scripting languages and others simply programming languages. Neither can be clearly defined from the other, and using different ill-defined terms leads to more confusion than it solves. Originally by: Solstice Project 1) Easy. When i tell you i was a semi-famous hacker within my group back in the early 90s and you know the difference, you'll ask me about what i did and so on. When you don't know the difference, you'll think of me as a criminal, which should be put into jail. My point was that the difference is something you can understand from context. Hacker really always was a diffuse term, as it was used both as slang for a programmer and a person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and stretching their capabilities[...], thus bordering into what cracker was used for. The only real defining document of what hacker meant was the infamous Jargon File, where it also was ill-defined and unclear. Therefore I argue that sticking to separating the terms come hell and high water is impractical. The only thing that has changed imho, is that the word have been clearly defined.
Tirestun Intaki Armaments Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:31:00 - [733] The EVEning is approaching... http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec DOCK UP, FOLKS. Originally by: Abrazzar Are we down yet?
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:35:00 - [734] The argument about the context is a good one, but many people are ignoring any context ... Anyway ... I understand your point, but there's no time for it right now... sadly, tbh. Update from LulzSec Twitter: The EVEning is approaching...
Kewso	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:45:00 - [735] The lulzboat has set sail again... twitter is hilarious though ----------------------- A Dysfunctional Playground
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:46:00 - [736] This **** is getting old fast.
Joss56 Gallente Unleashed' Fury	Posted - 2011.06.15 20:52:00 - [737] The luls stuffwhatever must be nervous with all those .... here and ..... there, I say for lulz sake stop it nao !! Too much .... kill the .... ________________________________________________ "You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA/UK?"
Rakamy	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:01:00 - [738] Originally by: Marlona Sky This **** is getting old fast. I agree and right now CCP is doing the right thing, taking everything offline will just give LulzSec what they want. How ever I do expect some form of compensation from CCP when all this is over and done with.
Xiang Jiao	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:05:00 - [739] CCP - I think these hackers intend on fouling up the Incarna launch. What do you intend on doing to prevent this? - Paying customer since 2007 with 4 accounts
Orlacc	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:06:00 - [740] I have been on for hours with no issues.

Ertai REDLEGION	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:11:00 - [741] I am really starting to wonder what my monthly subscription gets me, besides this BS!!!!
Aryanna Callibri	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:12:00 - [742] Ok...second night, same boring trick...not impressed anymore LULZSec. Nothing to see here, move along...yawns
Austneal Nero Fazione	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:12:00 - [743] Quote: Tranquility; ok (29,477 players) and if you'll look to your left, you'll see "lulzsec" failing
Verizana Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:12:00 - [744] Edited by: Verizana on 15/06/2011 21:12:59 Originally by: Cebraio @CCP There doesn't seem to be an option to clear the credit-card details from our accounts! Please provide one! (I just made a new payment through PayPal, because of the shallow hope that this will override my CC information. While this new payment is good for you, I'm afraid my CC info is still in your DB and I'm not feeling comfortable with it!) Mate, all your credit card infoamtion will be stored seperate to the eve servers, they'll make sure of this. 2nd, all your credit card details WILL be encypted, the hackers can get hold of this, but there is 99.9999 percent chance they'll not be able to decrepit the code Dont worry, CCP are a strong company and will deal with it, period
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:13:00 - [745] They are Crackers, not Hackers. Also, i believe that the DDoS is used to distract, while somebody is trying to enter the system. Any information about that would be appreciated, altough we'd probably find out anyway...... It's a wild guess and i admit i'm not up2date with todays security measures, but that's the reason for my panicking.... Turning everything off at least prevents everybody from getting in. Also ... why should they do it again, if not for a specific reason ...
Cougar Virpio	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:20:00 - [746] Edited by: Cougar Virpio on 15/06/2011 21:21:33 Originally by: Verizana Mate, all your credit card infoamtion will be stored seperate to the eve servers, they'll make sure of this. 2nd, all your credit card details WILL be encypted, the hackers can get hold of this, but there is 99.9999 percent chance they'll not be able to decrepit the code Dont worry, CCP are a strong company and will deal with it, period[/quote Sony thought the same. The cityband thought the same. Codemasters though the same. Acer though the same. And IF these skriptkiddies gain entrance to the server with the nececcary information, the normal way of storing passwords etc is via Hash, you can get the clear passwords with rainbowtables. And most people juse laughable passwords making this even easyer. That said, the current attack is supposed to be a DDOS to disrupt service and ** us off, not one to gain entrance. Originally by:** Solstice Project It's a wild guess and i admit i'm not up2date with todays security measures, but that's the reason for my panicking.... Sony, Codemasters, Citbank and Acr showed us that companies give a **** about It security.
Livini Naship	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:22:00 - [747] there is a warning about an phishing mail, i wonder how someone got my email adress i gave to ccp

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2011.06.15 21:26:00 - [748] Please see this forum thread for the current issues. Wrangler Senior Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.



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How can CCP be sure? Their logs always show nothing.

How can CCP be sure? Their logs always show nothing.

How can CCP be sure? Their logs always show nothing.

How can CCP be sure? Their logs always show nothing.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1528622

Is CCP working with the ISPs flooding the servers, and Twitter / Lulz domain hosters to get them taken down?

Is CCP working with the ISPs flooding the servers, and Twitter / Lulz domain hosters to get them taken down?

Eve market is getting sluggishThats a bad sign.

Eve market is getting sluggishThats a bad sign.

Eve market is getting sluggish

Thats a bad sign.

Eve market is getting sluggish

Thats a bad sign.