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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:18:00 -
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Well, I'm sure CCP have some pretty good metrics on just how much load their sol servers can handle now :)
I know if I was a dev, I'd have gone into the office over the weekend just to watch the software's performance under this load. And the forums held up pretty well too! What if this was all just carefully crafted by CCP to give their servers a trial by fire?
So CSM is off to Iceland soon. Hopefully we'll get some kind of roadmap, statement of values or some such nonsense where CCP can tell us where they're going to draw the line on what constitutes "vanity items only".
And who knows, perhaps there are enough folks playing EVE who enjoy World of Tanks that we'll eventually have players demanding that NeX provide blueprints for higher quality ammunition?
[ Australian players join channel ANZAC ] |
Keltiara
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ris Dnalor Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 24/06/2011 01:44:03 1. we want ship-spin option instead of CQ.
I do not agree that this is entirely true. I am certain that i am not the only one that actually enjoys the new CQ and the promises it brings for face to face interaction between characters. I do agree that ship spin would be cool but in the grand scheme of things that would be just as cosmetic as CQ from the players end and just add more code to the game that really isn't necessary when dealing with movements in space. I do, however agree wholeheartedly that there are some serious video performance issues that need to be addressed to get CQ and its decendents to a functional level for all players. I do not have any major performance issues until I start running multiple accounts on the same machine but not everyone has the resources to build a machine like I did. Something to be addressed.
Thanks,
Kelt
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Arvir Aris
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:20:00 -
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Quote: Due to the volatility of the topic we want to refrain from any further comments on this matter until after meeting with the CSM.
Oh lord, he's afraid of saying anything lest he make it worse.
I can't wait to hear the news they're just dying to tell us that will somehow make things worse.
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Carli Zandrya
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:20:00 -
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Just wanted to get my comments from another thread here to add to the threadgendary (love it!)
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(CCPZ's response is) ..2 days late and a few bucks short imo. The gag order over the past few days did more damage than the MT problem itself. I respect CCPZ's response, it shows he is human, but you know so are we.
Quote: Therefore we have asked the CSM to join us in Iceland for an extraordinary meeting June 30th and July 1st to discuss the events of past week, to help us define and address the real underlying concerns, and to assist us in defining and iterating on our virtual goods strategy. The result of this meeting should be mutual agreement of how virtual goods and services will evolve in EVE.
Why wasn't this done before rollout? Isn't this the tail wagging the dog?
Quote: Due to the volatility of the topic we want to refrain from any further comments on this matter until after meeting with the CSM.
The only thing worse than bad communication is NO communication.
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EVE is BURNING
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chainedtofate
Caldari Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: chainedtofate on 27/06/2011 01:23:02
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Deamos
Dev Null Development and Holdings
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zero GodOfDestruction Edited by: Zero GodOfDestruction on 27/06/2011 01:19:08
Originally by: Deamos
Originally by: Zero GodOfDestruction What happened to the live stream of the jita protest? I used the link i had before and now it is a recorded 2hr video. Did ccp gag the person streaming it?
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Cheers man! Was a blast!
I would, but i cannot run eve, that stream was my one of my last lifelines to eve. I understand, life goes on, and i will still be following the threads, but i hope someone could pick it up. Thanks for foloowing it for as long as you did, It was greatly appreciated.
I am sure someone will. I felt totally humbled by how many people popped their head in. I know CCP Fallout had seen it. We had several members of the CSM come by. We also had some Eve Radio DJs.
All in all, I think the numbers were somewhere around 90k viewers for the 3 days. The highest peak we had was 2k viewers on Friday. Completely amazing stuff. I hope to see everyone out and about in Eve (as long as CCP doesn't screw this one up)
My accounts will stay unsubbed until I hear good news from the CSM.
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Container Storage
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Container Storage on 27/06/2011 01:24:03 Ho irony: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=549 And we found that april's fool funny back then
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Deamos My accounts will stay unsubbed until I hear good news from the CSM.
I'm waiting for santa.
You think CCP will give the CSM the powers to change their last 3 years of revenue planning?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Deamos
Dev Null Development and Holdings
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Deamos My accounts will stay unsubbed until I hear good news from the CSM.
I'm waiting for santa.
You think CCP will give the CSM the powers to change their last 3 years of revenue planning?
Well, if that becomes the case then no big to me. The accounts will stay unsubbed. I've played Eve for 8 years... In the ending, I think I've gotten my fun out of it. -
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Arvir Aris
Quote: Due to the volatility of the topic we want to refrain from any further comments on this matter until after meeting with the CSM.
Oh lord, he's afraid of saying anything lest he make it worse.
I can't wait to hear the news they're just dying to tell us that will somehow make things worse.
Isnt it to late? What more could he say to make it worse?
That scares me more then anything else, that there are things out there that can make it WORSE!
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Deamos My accounts will stay unsubbed until I hear good news from the CSM.
I'm waiting for santa.
You think CCP will give the CSM the powers to change their last 3 years of revenue planning?
Sad but true, there's a real possibility it's already too late (like 2-3 years too late) and there will be nothing but a slow and painful death for the game with a very plausible sellout in the near future. |
Kewso
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:27:00 -
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A Dysfunctional Playground |
Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:29:00 -
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Advice for Team Coat Hanger (that is how I now refer to Soundwave/Zulu/Hilmar and crew since they want to abort Eve via coat hanger):
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Govinda Sertan
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:29:00 -
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>Start playing Eve >Fall in love with the game and community >Get involve in the game evolution >Contribute to the economy and politics >Have great respect for CCP >Defend the game and CCP from people that warn us about the game's evolution >Defend Incarna, hey, maybe it'll be a nice gameplay feature with black market >June 21 : Incarna comes out >Find out its total crap >Leak of Fearless and Killmail >Find out CCP's are greedy bastards >No trust in them anymore >End of the adventure
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Fire Watch
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: chainedtofate Edited by: chainedtofate on 27/06/2011 01:23:02
Nice one.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 01:32:33 Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 01:32:12 lame censorship
Originally by: Vandrion Advice for Team Coat Hanger (that is how I now refer to Soundwave/Zulu/Hilmar and crew since they want to abort Eve via coat hanger):
I DO NOT FREE BASE COKE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ckIv1tiaU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:33:00 -
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Lots of White Knights and FUD packers in the EU prime time, curious.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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rantuket
Caldari SPORADIC MOVEMENT Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:35:00 -
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knock, knock - anybody at CCP home?
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 01:38:58
Originally by: Adunh Slavy Lots of White Knights and FUD packers in the EU prime time, curious.
I vote that they are CCP PR alts. And will be doing this until it blows over. Then they will all vanish magically never to be heard from once its over.
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Care Bear King
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:42:00 -
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Opinion Shapers? Rabble Rousers?
--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 1 and 50 24: Miilla 21: Reed Tiburon 17: Tea Ester Elliot 17: Apollo Gabriel 17: Words Words Words 16: Soden Rah 13: Jason1138 12: Black Dranzer 12: Mehrdad Kor-Azor 12: Alexis Sachs 11: Republica Winder 10: Adunh Slavy 10: Iurnan Mileghere 10: Amira Kornova 10: CCP Manifest 10: Majuan Shuo 10: Da Gooch 10: HoboWithAShip 10: Bloodpetal 9: SailorBacon --- Total Posts: 1500 Total Posters: 639
--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 331 and 380 101: Miilla 49: Constantinus Maximus 24: Angeliq 18: Shintai 17: SNeAkYbRiT 15: Gulliver Rex 15: Abrazzar 15: Talamicus 14: Marcus Vorenius 13: Adunh Slavy 13: RougeOperator 12: Ron Whisper 12: Mia Aires 12: Londo Cebb 12: leth ghost 11: Zuquar Bonaparte 11: Gil Warden 11: Nishachara 11: Marc Goth 11: ISquishWorms --- Total Posts: 1500 Total Posters: 613
--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 1 and 380 439: Miilla 264: Constantinus Maximus 94: leth ghost 78: Isis Soryu 72: Adunh Slavy 71: Marcus Vorenius 67: Tea Ester Elliot 63: Reed Tiburon 61: Grey Stormshadow 58: Jaroslav Unwanted 50: Bloodpetal 50: Alexis Sachs 49: Shintai 48: Eladaris 46: RougeOperator 43: Manos Heimenbarger 41: Kewso 41: Cutter Isaacson 40: Ris Dnalor 39: Ranka Mei --- Total Posts: 11400 Total Posters: 3561
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 01:43:58
Originally by: RougeOperator Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 01:38:58
Originally by: Adunh Slavy Lots of White Knights and FUD packers in the EU prime time, curious.
I vote that they are CCP PR alts. And will be doing this until it blows over. Then they will all vanish magically never to be heard from once its over.
Funnily enough the ones that are a little obvious stop posting as soon as called out for being CCP.
There have been a few times where they came in enforce (3-4 at a time) and tried to turn the debate onto "vanity items are too expensive".
edit: the best part is they all have no avatar :-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: RougeOperator Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 01:38:58
Originally by: Adunh Slavy Lots of White Knights and FUD packers in the EU prime time, curious.
I vote that they are CCP PR alts. And will be doing this until it blows over. Then they will all vanish magically never to be heard from once its over.
Funnily enough the ones that are a little obvious stop posting as soon as called out for being CCP.
There have been a few times where they came in enforce (3-4 at a time) and tried to turn the debate onto "vanity items are too expensive".
Yes they already showed they are pretty sneaky gits. And will do anything to create a distraction. IE leak someone personal info to try to use sympathy as a distraction to name one.
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Zhula Guixgrixks
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Mattias Kerensky
Once it passed a million views, we officially classified it a ThreadTITAN.
Is the doomsday device fully operational ?
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks
Originally by: Mattias Kerensky
Once it passed a million views, we officially classified it a ThreadTITAN.
Is the doomsday device fully operational ?
"Ze whole point of ze doomsday device is zat you have to TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT! WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL PEOPLE!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Markus Jome
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:48:00 -
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@ Care Bear King
there are always people who post much more than other people. But i doubt they are responsible for the 1mio + views of this topic
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Kraundewr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:48:00 -
[11516]
Originally by: Saska Samar
Originally by: Kraundewr Has anyone stopped to think about the possibility that CCP is doing this on purpose?
CCP is "calling a CSM" emeregency meeting to make the players happy. This is perfect.
The next step is reducing prices and making apologies. This in turn will still allow them to sell things for cash, but also maintain their loyal fanbase.
This is all about drama my friends, welcome to the world of "As CCP turns".
If you think anything else, your fooling yourself.
Selling things for cash is not an issue (in the main, however they should still be player made and cost resources). Idiots will buy clothes and ****. Selling game advantage items when subscription based should never happen. The day that occurs is the day I leave (well the day it's confirmed - maybe the reason why CCP won't say one way or the other at the moment)
They will not sell things in game that will gave an unfair advantage to a player. This is still part of the hype and drama that all of you have become part of. This is pure genious in my opinion. Just like EvEbank and the many other game ploys of master CCP. This drama is generating them an amazing amount of publicity.
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Lolmer
Amarr Merciless Reckoning
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Valerie,
If you really want to understand how a lot of folks feel in a short amount of time, I suggest you read this as it sums up a lot of player feelings:
Originally by: Jade Constantine Sure when you have been playing Eve as long as we have you learn to take the rough with the smooth but you do so with the general feeling that CCP developers understand and ôgetö what makes Eve great û and thatÆs the problem now. This internal newsletter (if real) shows that one of the leading developers does not ôget eveö does not care about eve, and simply sees eve as a cash cow to be milked ferociously to fund other projects. This is about keeping the golden goose of eve subscriptions (on a drip feed if necessary) while chasing and grubbing every little loose cent he can from the player base.
Let me give you a couple of examples of how this can and does (and has already) impacted our enjoyment of this game:
1. The Captains Quarters û itÆs not gameplay its a display cabinet for vanity items. And the price of this display cabinet for you and I is that multi-client performance in stations is now terrible û if you have a bad graphic card itÆs a jerk fest û if you have a decent graphics card itÆs heat-fest. I can run 3-4 clients with CQÆs turned on û I can run it smoothly û but do I want to? Hell no because my Gtx 580 sounds like its melting my motherboard now! So I need to turn off the CQÆs on multiple accounts and as a result have more limited functionality on those accounts and an ugly wallpaper. No more station environment, no more clicking on my ship to open cargo hold, no more dragging ship to the hanger to board it. The delivery of the CQ vanity item display case has impacted my gameplay.
CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a ôdisembark shipö option to the UI but ôoh noö to do that would have meant we werenÆt being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if weÆre to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store.
2. If you read the newsletter youÆll see reference to saved fitting slots û and I donÆt know about you Verone but in JF weÆve run out of saved corp ship fittings. We want CCP to up the limit but is that really going to happen while the ôbiz-devsö talk honeyed words about how to squeeze extra income from players for such ôminor upgrades.ö? How long till we pay aurum for extra corp standing slots? For wardec options? For a usable corp management screen?
3. And who develops these vanity items? Yes thats right its Eve artists and developers whose salary we pay with our subscriptions. Given the choice wouldnÆt you rather have engine trails and flashy cyno effect for all players rather than a bunch of overpriced tat in the Aur store for a fleeced few?
Because that is precisely the compromise being made here -> CCP using our subs money to pay for vanity item production they want to sell back to us for greedy prices and it is something you SHOULD get mad about.
So hereÆs the thing.
The time to fight for the game we love is not in six months time when these concepts have bedded down and CCP is feeling bold enough to start selling Noble Faction ammo and +9 implants. The time to fight is now. Because this newsletter embodies everything that many of us feared but didnÆt want to believe CCP were becoming capable of. It is a massive betrayal of the compact we shared as players and developers of this game and indicates that CCP is preparing to leap down a very dark and deep path of self-immolation in the months to come.
I donÆt want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really donÆt have much of a clue in business.
+1 QFT
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lech lizdian
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Chesty Buws
I occasionally have time to mission, so making enough ISK to buy PLEX and monocles is an impossibility. If pay-to-win really is the future of this game then PvP becomes very difficult unless you are rich in game, which I am not. I play the game for the PvP, so I guess the game would not be appealing any longer as I would constantly lose to richer players.
There is a class society lesson in there somewhere...
no one is saying yes to including golden items... i am saying that if there is going to be mt for vanity items make those items be bought as bpc's that way the finsished product will be sold on the market for isk
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Kaaeliaa
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:49:00 -
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Adding another post to the threadgendary.
Come on, CCP. Your time is running out. Misdirection isn't going to work. The big yellow question isn't just the elephant in the room. Even P.T. Barnum couldn't make it disappear. It's more like the blue whale in our fishtank.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.27 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 01:43:58
Originally by: RougeOperator Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 01:38:58
Originally by: Adunh Slavy Lots of White Knights and FUD packers in the EU prime time, curious.
I vote that they are CCP PR alts. And will be doing this until it blows over. Then they will all vanish magically never to be heard from once its over.
Funnily enough the ones that are a little obvious stop posting as soon as called out for being CCP.
There have been a few times where they came in enforce (3-4 at a time) and tried to turn the debate onto "vanity items are too expensive".
edit: the best part is they all have no avatar :-D
I have noticed a few common themes. That isn't exactly proof of anything though. We pitchfork welding geese have a common theme too. Hopefully CCP sees the light and we can all go back to arguing with one another and settling it in the sandbox :)
None the less, curious behaviors.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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