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Londo Cebb Official Market Discussions Troll	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:17:00 - [11581] Originally by: Care Bear King Nah, I had the script left over from the carrier nerf thread. I think I posted stuff like this then under the name Honest Smedley to point out certain corps/alliances whining disproportionately in that thread. As for whether I'm a CCP plant - not so much. Why the jump from 50 to 331? I'm really just curious.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:18:00 - [11582] Originally by: Harelip Jenkins The problem I see with P2W items is the slippery slope. Lets say that the new incoming crowd of players loves the idea of being able to purchase wtfpwn guns from the NEX. They buy said guns and what's left of the player base happily ganks said noob and loots the new $hiney wtfpwn guns. The first thing that is going to happen is that newb is going to raise holy hell that he paid cash for those guns and it isn't fair that he lost them so quickly and will refuse to buy more because its a waste of money. Do you think CCP will protect the old dinosaur player that is damaging its new revenue stream or will rush in to protect the bottom line? What actions do they have available to protect that revenue stream from drying up? Exactly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:18:00 - [11583] Originally by: kestrael nanahara Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Quafe ZERO was to test the player-base reaction to a large influx of from-thin-air side-effect free boosters... Basically they were checking how the players would react when they would introduce these booster for AUR, cause if no one complain when everyone got 6 per account then they wouldn't complain when everyone could by them for $1 a pop. Makes you think about the sp injection system too dosen't it. That's what lead to one of the older dev comments about no plans for MTs, if I remember correctly. My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
Jimmy Duce Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:19:00 - [11584] Rokhs, and Maels, and Abaddons oh my. Notice no Gallente Lazor boats.... Buff Gallente
Harelip Jenkins	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:20:00 - [11585] :tinfoil hat: Honestly if think the new non-vanity items will be "contraband". I think that was the purpose of the Quafe Zero coming out of left field... to test player reaction. We were promised an update to contraband and i think were about to get it in the form of MT.
Bardan Asoto Universal Freelance	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:21:00 - [11586] Originally by: Jimmy Duce Rokhs, and Maels, and Abaddons oh my. Notice no Gallente Lazor boats.... Buff Gallente Our crappy boats don't have the PG for lazors.
Ferrus Grolem	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:21:00 - [11587] Originally by: Harelip Jenkins The problem I see with P2W items is the slippery slope. Lets say that the new incoming crowd of players loves the idea of being able to purchase wtfpwn guns from the NEX. They buy said guns and what's left of the player base happily ganks said noob and loots the new $hiney wtfpwn guns. The first thing that is going to happen is that newb is going to raise holy hell that he paid cash for those guns and it isn't fair that he lost them so quickly and will refuse to buy more because its a waste of money. Do you think CCP will protect the old dinosaur player that is damaging its new revenue stream or will rush in to protect the bottom line? What actions do they have available to protect that revenue stream from drying up? This is one of the major /facepalms about the whole thing as well. P2W is paying for instant gratification, EVE is not an instant gratification game, and knowledge is power, because someone who knows what they are doing can solo a battleship in a rifter if the battleship pilot doesn't know the game mechanics. Although after watching that Hilmar interview on youtube, the guy is completely crackers.
Hugues H	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:21:00 - [11588] I, too, cancelled my subscription. It was due on 17 of July. I think the only thing that can save us is if the big investors begin to review their set of values. Wasted development resource... what a shame. What a bunch of greedy ****
Bloodpetal Mimidae Risk Solutions	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:22:00 - [11589] Originally by: Harelip Jenkins :tinfoil hat: Honestly if think the new non-vanity items will be "contraband". I think that was the purpose of the Quafe Zero coming out of left field... to test player reaction. We were promised an update to contraband and i think were about to get it in the form of MT. I think that this is what they are alluding to as well. Which is pretty disgusting to me because it will make the player based drug manufacturing a real joy, won't it?
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:23:00 - [11590] Originally by: Harelip Jenkins The problem I see with P2W items is the slippery slope. Lets say that the new incoming crowd of players loves the idea of being able to purchase wtfpwn guns from the NEX. They buy said guns and what's left of the player base happily ganks said noob and loots the new $hiney wtfpwn guns. The first thing that is going to happen is that newb is going to raise holy hell that he paid cash for those guns and it isn't fair that he lost them so quickly and will refuse to buy more because its a waste of money. Do you think CCP will protect the old dinosaur player that is damaging its new revenue stream or will rush in to protect the bottom line? What actions do they have available to protect that revenue stream from drying up? They already did this with the vanity items. At first they were pod-destroyable, a few people started to point out how this will effect the entire marginal utility equation and usefulness of the store at all, and before you know it, poof - Non-destructible magic teleporation pants. No wonder they cost $1000. (Just wish I had had those when a certain young lady I had met forgot to mention that she was married, but enough about me...) My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.

Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:25:00 - [11591] Originally by: Jimmy Duce Rokhs, and Maels, and Abaddons oh my. Notice no Gallente Lazor boats.... Buff Gallente A rainbow Mael? Look what you have done CCP! My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
Mycheala Zanjoahir	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:26:00 - [11592] After the $h!t storm that happened, CCP will still go to P2W. It will probably be effects like: 1) 2k Aurum for 30 days of +2% skill points. 2) 5k Aurum for 30 days of +5% shield regen. Something that you can't see on the target ship or salvage from the loot. That way, they don't have to listen to to little Johnny 12 year old complain about loosing his l33t P2W gun to a suicide gank in Jita. It will happen. If they say they won't, they are lying. Look at all the damn money that the web portal games are getting from MT. The shareholders want some of that cake too... CCP will have to give in to them and they are willing to lose some of the base to it. Pricing models change. They will ram this one down on us.
Care Bear King	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:27:00 - [11593] Originally by: Londo Cebb Originally by: Care Bear King Nah, I had the script left over from the carrier nerf thread. I think I posted stuff like this then under the name Honest Smedley to point out certain corps/alliances whining disproportionately in that thread. As for whether I'm a CCP plant - not so much. Why the jump from 50 to 331? I'm really just curious. When I decided to dust the script off again the thread was at 380ish. I personally wanted to see if there was a pattern or difference between who was posting at the start of the thread (the first 50) vs more recently (the last 50). The number of unique posters didn't decline between the two as much as I thought it would, which was surprising. I then did a full run through 380 because I felt that would be the most interesting list to most people.
Valari Nala Zena Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:29:00 - [11594] General thread statistics. Unique authors 3571 Total posts 11581 Top 50 posters in thread Posts (% of total) Miilla 447 (3,9%) _____ You post a lot.
Kaaeliaa Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:31:00 - [11595] Aw man, I got to the party too late to get in that screenshot. I'm right behind the Rokh in the conga line now.
Londo Cebb Official Market Discussions Troll	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:31:00 - [11596] Originally by: Valari Nala Zena General thread statistics. Unique authors 3571 Total posts 11581 Top 50 posters in thread Posts (% of total) Miilla 447 (3,9%) _____ You post a lot. Sweet I made that list too!
Goremageddon Box	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:32:00 - [11597] Edited by: Goremageddon Box on 27/06/2011 03:33:46 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1540517 word cloud thanks to hojjo _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Algathas Minmatar The Revenge of Auntie Freeze	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:32:00 - [11598] Originally by: Harelip Jenkins The problem I see with P2W items is the slippery slope. Lets say that the new incoming crowd of players loves the idea of being able to purchase wtfpwn guns from the NEX. They buy said guns and what's left of the player base happily ganks said noob and loots the new $hiney wtfpwn guns. The first thing that is going to happen is that newb is going to raise holy hell that he paid cash for those guns and it isn't fair that he lost them so quickly and will refuse to buy more because its a waste of money. Do you think CCP will protect the old dinosaur player that is damaging its new revenue stream or will rush in to protect the bottom line? What actions do they have available to protect that revenue stream from drying up? This is already evident. The clothing items were supposed to be destroyed when you were podded. Now they aren't because people complained. "[i]We have spais in their base. Our propaganda machine is much larger and stronger than theirs We have better organizational capabilities
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:32:00 - [11599] So I hear certain CCP was going to be in GDC talking about PR and dinosaurs.
Bloodpetal Mimidae Risk Solutions	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:33:00 - [11600] Edited by: Bloodpetal on 27/06/2011 03:35:04 Edited by: Bloodpetal on 27/06/2011 03:33:53 Originally by: Londo Cebb Originally by: Valari Nala Zena General thread statistics. Unique authors 3571 Total posts 11581 You post a lot. Sweet I made that list too! Totally in Top Posters. I don't normally post this much though. Was exactly on 50. 3561 Posters is a significant number. This issue wouldn't have been as big if they communicated from the start of the matter. They self-prophesized this reaction into existence.

LordElfa Gallente Golden Lyon Warriors	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:37:00 - [11601] I had a Mael out there doing Rainbow lazers myself the other day. Good timez.
Kaaeliaa Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:37:00 - [11602] Conga line in Jita is growing! Let's go people! Just "keep at distance" and AFK all night, but the show must go on.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:40:00 - [11603] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 03:41:16 Originally by: Ferrus Grolem Originally by: Harelip Jenkins The problem I see with P2W items is the slippery slope. Lets say that the new incoming crowd of players loves the idea of being able to purchase wtfpwn guns from the NEX. They buy said guns and what's left of the player base happily ganks said noob and loots the new $hiney wtfpwn guns. The first thing that is going to happen is that newb is going to raise holy hell that he paid cash for those guns and it isn't fair that he lost them so quickly and will refuse to buy more because its a waste of money. Do you think CCP will protect the old dinosaur player that is damaging its new revenue stream or will rush in to protect the bottom line? What actions do they have available to protect that revenue stream from drying up? This is one of the major /facepalms about the whole thing as well. P2W is paying for instant gratification, EVE is not an instant gratification game, and knowledge is power, because someone who knows what they are doing can solo a battleship in a rifter if the battleship pilot doesn't know the game mechanics. Although after watching that Hilmar interview on youtube, the guy is completely crackers. Really strange isn't it. Especially when CCP say "we'd like people to be able to pay for that convienience". Pay for convienience in a game where the sticky bit is the time investment....... Switch to F2P/P2W with DUST recruitment of 12yos and it all perfect makes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Misslepuncher Maritime Interdiction Sobriety Test Failures	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:43:00 - [11604] Originally by: Goremageddon Box Edited by: Goremageddon Box on 27/06/2011 03:33:46 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1540517 word cloud thanks to hojjo I would love to see someone make actual sentences from this word cloud. First link: HERE Second: If you are needing a PvP corporation/Alliance contact me or Zarian Uphius in-game for information on joining MAIE
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:44:00 - [11605] Originally by: Misslepuncher I would love to see someone make actual sentences from this word cloud. "Think new people" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Goremageddon Box	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:45:00 - [11606] Originally by: Misslepuncher Originally by: Goremageddon Box Edited by: Goremageddon Box on 27/06/2011 03:33:46 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1540517 word cloud thanks to hojjo I would love to see someone make actual sentences from this word cloud. you can read those sentences throughout this thread, this just shows you the most used words and the basic gist of it. it isnt meant to convey a single though, its meant to convey the most used words that relay a message. look at it closely and you will see the bigger picture. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Goremageddon Box	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:49:00 - [11607] basically ccp and high are relatively close together so they must be charlie sheening. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Zhula Guixgrixks	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:52:00 - [11608] Originally by: Goremageddon Box basically ccp and high are relatively close together so they must be charlie sheening. "trust" and "CSM" are enslaved by big C's :-D
Suzie Buzie	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:52:00 - [11609] Somehowe I got the feeling this song was written for CCP... IÆm tearing away Pieces are falling I canÆt seem to make them stay You run away Faster and faster you canÆt seem to get away Break Hope thereÆs a reason For questions unanswered I just donÆt see everything Yes IÆm inside you Tell me how does it feel to feel like this Just like I do I donÆt care about anyone else but me I donÆt care about anyone Do I really want this Sometimes I scare myself I just canÆt let it go Can you believe it Everything happens for reasons I just donÆt know I donÆt care about anyone else but me I donÆt care about anyone I donÆt care about anyone else but me I donÆt care about anyone or anything but me God damn I love me (Drowning Pool)
Misslepuncher Maritime Interdiction Sobriety Test Failures	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:52:00 - [11610] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus "Think new people" Who me? No I just don't post on the forum that much. Besides that I'd would have preferred it if CCP either made it possible to get the vanity items through A LOT of in-game work (IE: a LP store Item [And getting rid of the NeX] or had LP convertible to Aur), had them available for purchase the in-game market for ONLY ISK(getting rid of the NeX and Aur BS all together), or just getting rid of the NeX and vanity items all together. But you know that's just me. First link: HERE Second: If you are needing a PvP corporation/Alliance contact me or Zarian Uphius in-game for information on joining MAIE



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