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Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:46:00 - [11911] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 11:46:57 Originally by: AbsoIon Edited by: AbsoIon on 27/06/2011 11:39:46 friendly bump - so the discussion doesnt die out/starve out due to CrowdControlProductionsCrowdControl/DamageControl II. Believe me it's not going to finish on these forums. There are people here with 8 years of time invested in training on brining down complex organisations. 8 years which CCP took a big dump on. There are people with a hell of a lot more to lose in this then CCP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Oregin Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:46:00 - [11912] This thread is so long that my phone's browser now recognises the number of posts as a dialable number...
Tester128	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:47:00 - [11913] problem is they are losing active ppl over this, the ones who generate content for the sandbox. i've seen sister bliss in the list, i've seen creamster and some other prominent players promise to canceling accounts. And if eve loses enough ingame movers and shakers, it will start losing grunts and then the bots will follow as there is no market for farmed gold.
Angeliq Minmatar Silent Overwatch S I L E N T.	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:47:00 - [11914] Originally by: Miilla CCP has done all this "research" with "outside professionals" to get metrics on the Microtransactions in Eve succeeding. They are "staying the course" and we are "very predictable" and are to pay "less of what we say and what we do". Yeah, that's why they are in PANIC MODE. I mean, trying a different spin on it. Honestly I don't see CCP in PANIC MODE. They are only buying time. One week is a long time and as you can already see the uproar starts to decline. By next week only a handfull of ppl will still be posting on forums about this sht. They are doing damage and crowd control now. I still believe they expected us to behave like this and they expected to lose this many accounts. I don't find it a problem for a company to lose 1.5 % of it's customers (accounts) when the overall profit will be at least twice as much. If anything, they are not stupid. They are following the BASIC steps of crowd control trying to minimize the loss, as company would do. After all, it`s better to lose only 1.2% of your total subscribers instead of 2%. Bottom line, I see no PANIC MODE at CCP. If they were in panic, they would've came with a TOTALLY clear, indubitable statement and they would've dropped the NEX Store. They are in PANIC MODE, about the leaks. Not about the NEX. I also said they are "trying a different spin on it". Which is true. You might be right on the panic mode about the leaks (actually I think you are spot on). It shows that at least some of the employees are very unhappy with the new direction CCP is heading, risking their jobs with those leaks. That makes you think MAJOR changes are happening inside CCP that will alter the way the company worked until now. What could that be? :)))
Casey Roy	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:48:00 - [11915] Way beyond epic fail mode, actually.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:49:00 - [11916] Creamster! That guy is scary! Nano days he saw me uncloaked for 0.2s from 80km away. I zigged, I zagged, he missed me by 250m. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Alfie Reeve	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:50:00 - [11917] Edited by: Alfie Reeve on 27/06/2011 11:50:29 Originally by: Rohk Ard Edited by: Rohk Ard on 27/06/2011 11:44:35 I do trust the CSM to represent my views. Do I trust CCP to listen and save Eve, I am not sure to be honest. Yet we can all wait to see the outcome, because we are all primed to see through a lashed up PR exercise. When the CSM report back to us, surely CCP have had their final opportunity to respond and we will make a choices. I propose a 'Black Weekend' for the start of July. A mass log off on Friday 1st July at 23:59 eve time until 23:59 on Sunday 3rd July (if no satisfaction has been achieved beforehand). This will allow CCP to see xmas future and allow the 1000's of members to expore new communities with each other preparing to turn their back on CCP for good It would show the level of feeling if supported. I will do so.
Unidentified Player	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:51:00 - [11918] It's clear to me by now that they are a bunch of *******s who see us as some stupid puppets (hence the way they handled this - they completely ignored us). I already stopped playing the game and I won't be renewing my two subscriptions even if they'll start start offering the game for free. I won't help a bunch of arrogant bastards, that think so less of me, to make money on my account. You have to have really low self esteem to continue playing their game.
Ford Mersombre	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:52:00 - [11919] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Kal Erkkinen I think this may have something to do with the fact that CCP not achieving the average revenue per user. Some players do not pay for EVE and only use ISK to buy PLEX, thus the money CCP make drops - I guess they looked at the average, not at the old vets - and the new players separately. If they had, figures would be different and this AUR choice would not have been implemented. I strongly believe that if CCP had raised the cost for a sub by a dollar or two, or a euro or two - the vast majority of players would not mind - as EVE is a great game, and that would also increase the cost of the PLEX and reduce the ability for in-game players to buy them, thus forcing them to sub, and increasing the revenue for CCP. If cash is their only problem, besides their poor staff support - the ability to buy ships, ammo, rep, skill for cash is not the way to solve a problem. I think that a large amount of players have already unsubbed - even if the AUR store goes ahead, and they implement it - EVE will not be popular, the demand for AUR will be low, they will have to either decrease the market prices to make available, or increase the cost of AUR to cover the giant losses. Hopefully they can figure this out. Now. They projected each user should SPEND about $3000 a year in Eve, they equate it to a GOLF hobby. So, to raise the subs that would mean $3000 anually MINIMUM, that equates to $250 per MONTH; MINIMUM. That should give you an insight to their revenue targets PER PLAYER. Bwahahahaha!!!! Seriously? lol Wow ... Talk about completely out of touch with your average player. Wow, lol.
Gulliver Rex	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:52:00 - [11920] Edited by: Gulliver Rex on 27/06/2011 11:53:10 Originally by: Angeliq Originally by: Miilla CCP has done all this "research" with "outside professionals" to get metrics on the Microtransactions in Eve succeeding. They are "staying the course" and we are "very predictable" and are to pay "less of what we say and what we do". Yeah, that's why they are in PANIC MODE. I mean, trying a different spin on it. They are going to publish their newsletter in Japanese so no one will be able to read it. Honestly I don't see CCP in PANIC MODE. They are only buying time. One week is a long time and as you can already see the uproar starts to decline. By next week only a handfull of ppl will still be posting on forums about this sht. They are doing damage and crowd control now. I still believe they expected us to behave like this and they expected to lose this many accounts. I don't find it a problem for a company to lose 1.5 % of it's customers (accounts) when the overall profit will be at least twice as much. If anything, they are not stupid. They are following the BASIC steps of crowd control trying to minimize the loss, as company would do. After all, it`s better to lose only 1.2% of your total subscribers instead of 2%. Bottom line, I see no PANIC MODE at CCP. If they were in panic, they would've came with a TOTALLY clear, indubitable statement and they would've dropped the NEX Store. They are in PANIC MODE, about the leaks. Not about the NEX. I also said they are "trying a different spin on it". Which is true. You might be right on the panic mode about the leaks (actually I think you are spot on). It shows that at least some of the employees are very unhappy with the new direction CCP is heading, risking their jobs with those leaks. That makes you think MAJOR changes are happening inside CCP that will alter the way the company worked until now. What could that be? :))) They are going to publish their newsletter in Japanese so no one will be able to read it.
Markus Jome	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:52:00 - [11921] What confuses me the most isn't vanity-items or CQ, it is the catastrophic pr ccp is doing right now. I guess ANY fast answer could have suffocatet this threat here.
Kuronaga Kantian Principle	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:53:00 - [11922] So... does the thread upgrade again once it hits 400 pages? What's bigger then a Titan? :/
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:53:00 - [11923] Originally by: Angeliq Originally by: Miilla CCP has done all this "research" with "outside professionals" to get metrics on the Microtransactions in Eve succeeding. They are "staying the course" and we are "very predictable" and are to pay "less of what we say and what we do". Yeah, that's why they are in PANIC MODE. I mean, trying a different spin on it. Honestly I don't see CCP in PANIC MODE. They are only buying time. One week is a long time and as you can already see the uproar starts to decline. By next week only a handfull of ppl will still be posting on forums about this sht. They are doing damage and crowd control now. I still believe they expected us to behave like this and they expected to lose this many accounts. I don't find it a problem for a company to lose 1.5 % of it's customers (accounts) when the overall profit will be at least twice as much. If anything, they are not stupid. They are following the BASIC steps of crowd control trying to minimize the loss, as company would do. After all, it`s better to lose only 1.2% of your total subscribers instead of 2%. Bottom line, I see no PANIC MODE at CCP. If they were in panic, they would've came with a TOTALLY clear, indubitable statement and they would've dropped the NEX Store. They are in PANIC MODE, about the leaks. Not about the NEX. I also said they are "trying a different spin on it". Which is true. You might be right on the panic mode about the leaks (actually I think you are spot on). It shows that at least some of the employees are very unhappy with the new direction CCP is heading, risking their jobs with those leaks. That makes you think MAJOR changes are happening inside CCP that will alter the way the company worked until now. What could that be? :))) Don't fool yourselve, CCP won't change how they "work" except to give employees even LESS information than they do now.
Blade Gunner Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:53:00 - [11924] Originally by: Angeliq Originally by: Miilla CCP has done all this "research" with "outside professionals" to get metrics on the Microtransactions in Eve succeeding. They are "staying the course" and we are "very predictable" and are to pay "less of what we say and what we do". Yeah, that's why they are in PANIC MODE. I mean, trying a different spin on it. Honestly I don't see CCP in PANIC MODE. They are only buying time. One week is a long time and as you can already see the uproar starts to decline. By next week only a handfull of ppl will still be posting on forums about this sht. They are doing damage and crowd control now. I still believe they expected us to behave like this and they expected to lose this many accounts. I don't find it a problem for a company to lose 1.5 % of it's customers (accounts) when the overall profit will be at least twice as much. If anything, they are not stupid. They are following the BASIC steps of crowd control trying to minimize the loss, as company would do. After all, it`s better to lose only 1.2% of your total subscribers instead of 2%. Bottom line, I see no PANIC MODE at CCP. If they were in panic, they would've came with a TOTALLY clear, indubitable statement and they would've dropped the NEX Store. They are in PANIC MODE, about the leaks. Not about the NEX. I also said they are "trying a different spin on it". Which is true. You might be right on the panic mode about the leaks (actually I think you are spot on). It shows that at least some of the employees are very unhappy with the new direction CCP is heading, risking their jobs with those leaks. That makes you think MAJOR changes are happening inside CCP that will alter the way the company worked until now. What could that be? :))) Do you really believe it was a leak? Or have you considered that the tactics of political bodies has been used to disclose the undisclosable on a corporate level? To straight talk is free, smack talk can be very expensive. the choice is of course yours .
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:53:00 - [11925] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 11:53:35 Originally by: Markus Jome What confuses me the most isn't vanity-items or CQ, it is the catastrophic pr ccp is doing right now. I guess ANY fast answer could have suffocatet this threat here. *any* Hilmar could have posted a video of him waving his arms around and yelling random noises. Many would have defended him "He can't say anything, just wait, we'll hear more" edit: evemail miilla, check it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Tester128	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:55:00 - [11926] Originally by: Kuronaga So... does the thread upgrade again once it hits 400 pages? What's bigger then a Titan? :/ ubertitan for MT, obviously
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:55:00 - [11927] Originally by: Blade Gunner Originally by: Angeliq Originally by: Miilla CCP has done all this "research" with "outside professionals" to get metrics on the Microtransactions in Eve succeeding. They are "staying the course" and we are "very predictable" and are to pay "less of what we say and what we do". Yeah, that's why they are in PANIC MODE. I mean, trying a different spin on it. Honestly I don't see CCP in PANIC MODE. They are only buying time. One week is a long time and as you can already see the uproar starts to decline. By next week only a handfull of ppl will still be posting on forums about this sht. They are doing damage and crowd control now. I still believe they expected us to behave like this and they expected to lose this many accounts. I don't find it a problem for a company to lose 1.5 % of it's customers (accounts) when the overall profit will be at least twice as much. If anything, they are not stupid. They are following the BASIC steps of crowd control trying to minimize the loss, as company would do. After all, it`s better to lose only 1.2% of your total subscribers instead of 2%. Bottom line, I see no PANIC MODE at CCP. If they were in panic, they would've came with a TOTALLY clear, indubitable statement and they would've dropped the NEX Store. They are in PANIC MODE, about the leaks. Not about the NEX. I also said they are "trying a different spin on it". Which is true. You might be right on the panic mode about the leaks (actually I think you are spot on). It shows that at least some of the employees are very unhappy with the new direction CCP is heading, risking their jobs with those leaks. That makes you think MAJOR changes are happening inside CCP that will alter the way the company worked until now. What could that be? :))) Do you really believe it was a leak? Or have you considered that the tactics of political bodies has been used to disclose the undisclosable on a corporate level? It obvious is a leak yes, given their attitude and the content of the emails. Fearlesss is not an "internal discussion" paper, if so, where is the employee feedback on the articles? No, it is not an "opinion point" it is a NEWSletter. For NEWS to ensure that employess are on the same page and noses facing in the SAME DIRECTION as the COMPANIES DIRECTION.
Wakeland	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:56:00 - [11928] Originally by: Tester128 Originally by: Kuronaga So... does the thread upgrade again once it hits 400 pages? What's bigger then a Titan? :/ ubertitan for MT, obviously THREADAGGEDON
Casey Roy	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:56:00 - [11929] Originally by: Markus Jome What confuses me the most isn't vanity-items or CQ, it is the catastrophic pr ccp is doing right now. I guess ANY fast answer could have suffocatet this threat here. They are just working on some sort of plausible way to deny everything, because we're just a bunch of paranoid idiots.
Erosie Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:57:00 - [11930] The moment CCP slept with the Rothschilds, we should have know. Not only are the Rothschild responsible for ALL the current wars and struggle, now they ruined MY Virtual World too. (Citigroup=Goldman Sachs=Rothschild). They created the financial, euro, foreclosure crisis and now our own JITA crisis too. Fok them Fok CCP
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:59:00 - [11931] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 11:59:53 Originally by: Erosie The moment CCP slept with the Rothschilds ^^^^^^^^^ !!!!!QFT!!!!! Not just slept with. CCP is their mountain hideout cave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Kara Kugisa	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:59:00 - [11932] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 11:46:57 Originally by: AbsoIon Edited by: AbsoIon on 27/06/2011 11:39:46 friendly bump - so the discussion doesnt die out/starve out due to CrowdControlProductionsCrowdControl/DamageControl II. Believe me it's not going to finish on these forums. There are people here with 8 years of time invested in training on brining down complex organisations. 8 years which CCP took a big dump on. There are people with a hell of a lot more to lose in this then CCP. CCP have a business and their livelihoods to lose. Players have a computer game. Yes they may have played a game for 8 years but if it was to close tomorrow it is still just a game, its not the real world.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:59:00 - [11933] Originally by: Gulliver Rex Edited by: Gulliver Rex on 27/06/2011 11:53:10 Originally by: Angeliq Originally by: Miilla CCP has done all this "research" with "outside professionals" to get metrics on the Microtransactions in Eve succeeding. They are "staying the course" and we are "very predictable" and are to pay "less of what we say and what we do". Yeah, that's why they are in PANIC MODE. I mean, trying a different spin on it. They are going to publish their newsletter in Japanese so no one will be able to read it. Honestly I don't see CCP in PANIC MODE. They are only buying time. One week is a long time and as you can already see the uproar starts to decline. By next week only a handfull of ppl will still be posting on forums about this sht. They are doing damage and crowd control now. I still believe they expected us to behave like this and they expected to lose this many accounts. I don't find it a problem for a company to lose 1.5 % of it's customers (accounts) when the overall profit will be at least twice as much. If anything, they are not stupid. They are following the BASIC steps of crowd control trying to minimize the loss, as company would do. After all, it`s better to lose only 1.2% of your total subscribers instead of 2%. Bottom line, I see no PANIC MODE at CCP. If they were in panic, they would've came with a TOTALLY clear, indubitable statement and they would've dropped the NEX Store. They are in PANIC MODE, about the leaks. Not about the NEX. I also said they are "trying a different spin on it". Which is true. You might be right on the panic mode about the leaks (actually I think you are spot on). It shows that at least some of the employees are very unhappy with the new direction CCP is heading, risking their jobs with those leaks. That makes you think MAJOR changes are happening inside CCP that will alter the way the company worked until now. What could that be? :))) They are going to publish their newsletter in Japanese so no one will be able to read it. I'd read it...
tex sharky	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:59:00 - [11934] ===== CCP last dev blogs summary ==== so the monocle is expensive so what ... bla bla bla ... [angry at you players opposing changes] bla bla bla bla ... we will have blog soon TM .... bla bla bla bla ... we are sorry but will keep with our pay-to-win changes cough iterations ... bla bla bla ... cool down period needed CSM NDA-bound members invited soon to keep communication open (internally) ... bla bla bla ... no golden-coloured ammo maybe other colours ... bla bla bla ... you won't unsub becuase you love the game anyway ... bla bla bla ... we know that you all play golf anyway ... bla bla bla ... EA survey showed that players want pay-to-win items ... bla bla bla ... we copied that so that we are fearless to get ourselves into mainstream ... bla bla bla ... we need moar money, paying 30-50% of industry average to our employees is not enough ... etc
Prol Kabanenko	Posted - 2011.06.27 12:00:00 - [11935] Edited by: Prol Kabanenko on 27/06/2011 12:01:32 This entire epics-whine because players cannot sew these shirts and pants. CCP destroyed its own rule, which all in the game is made by the players. Although on the planets it is possible to rear cotton. With the aid of the Carbon it is possible not only to make the unique persons, but also to sew unique shirts. Isn't that true? There can be to wait of renovation "Incarna:Galactic Tailor"?
Warg Matar Minmatar The Red Circle Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.27 12:01:00 - [11936] Originally by: Kuronaga So... does the thread upgrade again once it hits 400 pages? What's bigger then a Titan? :/ A moon?
Handon Guild Toys R Us	Posted - 2011.06.27 12:01:00 - [11937] Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Originally by: Gulliver Rex Edited by: Gulliver Rex on 27/06/2011 11:53:10 Originally by: Angeliq Originally by: Miilla CCP has done all this "research" with "outside professionals" to get metrics on the Microtransactions in Eve succeeding. They are "staying the course" and we are "very predictable" and are to pay "less of what we say and what we do". Yeah, that's why they are in PANIC MODE. I mean, trying a different spin on it. They are going to publish their newsletter in Japanese so no one will be able to read it. Honestly I don't see CCP in PANIC MODE. They are only buying time. One week is a long time and as you can already see the uproar starts to decline. By next week only a handfull of ppl will still be posting on forums about this sht. They are doing damage and crowd control now. I still believe they expected us to behave like this and they expected to lose this many accounts. I don't find it a problem for a company to lose 1.5 % of it's customers (accounts) when the overall profit will be at least twice as much. If anything, they are not stupid. They are following the BASIC steps of crowd control trying to minimize the loss, as company would do. After all, it`s better to lose only 1.2% of your total subscribers instead of 2%. Bottom line, I see no PANIC MODE at CCP. If they were in panic, they would've came with a TOTALLY clear, indubitable statement and they would've dropped the NEX Store. They are in PANIC MODE, about the leaks. Not about the NEX. I also said they are "trying a different spin on it". Which is true. You might be right on the panic mode about the leaks (actually I think you are spot on). It shows that at least some of the employees are very unhappy with the new direction CCP is heading, risking their jobs with those leaks. That makes you think MAJOR changes are happening inside CCP that will alter the way the company worked until now. What could that be? :))) They are going to publish their newsletter in Japanese so no one will be able to read it. I'd read it... Google translate rauw rauw rauw
Deadly Hobbitses Caldari Furry Footed Felons	Posted - 2011.06.27 12:01:00 - [11938] The sad part will be when this thread (and all of the others like it) magically fails to be preserved when they bring the new forums online later this week.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 12:02:00 - [11939] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 12:02:55 Originally by: Kara Kugisa CCP have a business and their livelihoods to lose. I am not talking about CCP. Rabbit hole. Very deep. edit: look i'll just post the picture again, it's the only way I feel somewhat safe mentioning the guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Irn VanBru	Posted - 2011.06.27 12:02:00 - [11940] think this needs a re-post as well : http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Games-Reviews-E159347.htm no sure what thread it was from, but it shows the state CCP as in at the moment/has been in. What if they bring the next dev.blog out in klingon? Does google translate that?

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