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Haunting Widow
Wormhole Engineers
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:10:00 -
[12031]
MT doesn't bother me, as long as it's for Vanity items only. Give players rainbow Mining lasers attachments, or Propulsion modifiers that do nothing more than change the animation of of the thrust.
But for the love of all that is right with EVE-Online, please don't sell Ships that evade production, or ammo or modules.
The very very very worst thing you could possibly do is sell SP. I've been patiently biding my time to get the SP I have... and I've accepted that wait because every character in eve has had to endure it. Maybe sell an implant to characters less than 2 months old that only works for a month or so to help boost their training rates, another get-them-into-the-game faster thing, but players with more SP than people twice their age in-game... would ruin EVE-Online.
I sincerely hope that CCP isn't just beating around the bush with what they have been saying of late, and I hope that the emergency CSM meeting isn't just a PR stunt or a request for advice from them on how to force unwanted content down our throats. If that is similar at all to what will happen I hope the CSM walks out on you.
Eve online is fantastic, it truly is. It could use some more attention, but the game itself and the concept are truly one-of-a-kind. This thread is over 400 pages long because we love this game. You need more cash? Increase the cost of 1 month of subscription time. I have much less of a problem with that than non-vanity MTs.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:13:00 -
[12032]
Looks like the CCP alt train is gathering steam!!! LOL
or
We have a new class of trolls that really have no clue what they are trolling about.... Damn I miss the educated trolls...They could at least troll with facts...
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Angeliq
Minmatar Silent Overwatch S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:13:00 -
[12033]
Edited by: Angeliq on 27/06/2011 13:17:39 Ok... So they basically need the NEX Store only for a few months, maybe 1 year or so to clean (read -laundry-) some "iskies". It's funny how you can make (read -justify-) money out of thin air :)
The "people in charge" don't care if NEX Store will ruin the game. That's not the problem. lol The "people in charge" don't care if the game will be shutdown. They are using EVE now as a test for WoD anyway - which will be their FLAG SHIP. Easier to "clean" money with that "business model". Hilmar is just a pawn. He has no power to make any decisions. Why is CCP acting like this? Crown control. Too much curiosity and research might lead way down the rabbit hole. Not good for "business".
STOP with all the logical arguments. It's no use. There are more at stake here than just "the game experience".
HINT: Island is not part of European Union HINT: Island has a rather convenient economical crysis nowdays HINT: Island has a very flexible approach on fiscality/taxation policy (read -tax heaven-) HINT: Check CCP Shareholders HINT: Further check those companies HINT: Check those companies some more:) HINT: Check the owners of those companies HINT: Check them again and the connections they have with Mother Land :) FINAL HINT: FRUIT (read -****-) OFF!
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Zephy Russ
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:14:00 -
[12034]
Originally by: Vandrion educated trolls
lol.
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Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:14:00 -
[12035]
Edited by: Kristina Vanszar on 27/06/2011 13:26:00
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius Hi Niko, Hulkageddon was the best time I had in EVE, please don't tell me it's ingame only? Sub running out July 19th
btw, you should register with RAW23 in Events & Gatherings - as primus motor for the JITA protests you are way ahead of me in the competion for the 10 BILLION prize.
Lol what 10 billion price?? what??
no not ingame only, slap everyone with a monocle in the face IRL xD
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:20:00 -
[12036]
Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 13:21:59
Originally by: Smagd
That said, I don't think your math is entirely as easy as you'd like it to be:
If 10% of an average $300-per-annum MMO quit, that's exactly the same relative financial loss as if 10% of an average $5000-per-annum MMO quit.
You'll have to dig into whether more bitter vets are likely to quit in the $5000-per-annum MMO than the cheaper one.
Also, I'm just white knighting proper math here. I still don't want micro transactions for in game benefits.
The only stats I can find on PS3 users show they're slightly older then PS2/xBox, however the stats are old, PS3 probably caught up with 17-20. I think they've just been shown their new demographic by Sony and although it's $5000, think that's 12yos not rich people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vandrion on 27/06/2011 13:21:38 Ok guys.. It is time to start paying attention to other forum sections then this one....
Here is an example of what is going on in the Assembley Hall:
"- Limited use items like the Cerebral Accelerator, which can be used to increase hourly SP gain for a limited duration and speed up skill training, rather than replace it with direct injection of skills/SP. Not strictly limited to new players, but with a time limit on use."
Assembly hall Thread
That knucklehead actually wants SP for $$$.....
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Noceur-01 Tiers
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:21:00 -
[12038]
Originally by: Kristina Vanszar Lady and genetleman, it's a honor to present: MONOCLEGEDDON WORK IN PROGRESS
I was discussing such a page with my friend the other day, cant wait to form a corp with other monoclehunters and when the MT-clowns undock just smash them to pieces.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:28:00 -
[12039]
Originally by: Angeliq
Ok... So they basically need the NEX Store only for a few months, maybe 1 year or so to clean (read -laundry-) some "iskies". It's funny how you can make (read -justify-) money out of thin air :)
The "people in charge" don't care if NEX Store will ruin the game. That's not the problem. lol The "people in charge" don't care if the game will be shutdown. They are using EVE now as a test for WoD anyway - which will be their FLAG SHIP. Easier to "clean" money with that "business model". Hilmar is just a pawn. He has no power to make any decisions. Why is CCP acting like this? Crown control. Too much curiosity and research might lead way down the rabbit hole. Not good for "business".
STOP with all the logical arguments. It's no use. There are more at stake here than just "the game experience".
HINT: Island is not part of European Union HINT: Island has a rather convenient economical crysis nowdays HINT: Island has a very flexible approach on fiscality/taxation policy (read -tax heaven-) HINT: Check CCP Shareholders HINT: Further check those companies HINT: Check those companies some more:) HINT: Check the owners of those companies HINT: Check them again and the connections they have with Mother Land :) FINAL HINT: FRUIT (read -****-) OFF!
I like you. You think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:28:00 -
[12040]
So ÇÇP choose to be silent until CSM and then blame CSM and continue the progress without changes. --------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
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Moyra Jurescki
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar Lady and genetleman, it's a honor to present: MONOCLEGEDDON WORK IN PROGRESS
Brilliant!
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:33:00 -
[12042]
Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 13:34:22
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Angeliq
Ok... So they basically need the NEX Store only for a few months, maybe 1 year or so to clean (read -laundry-) some "iskies". It's funny how you can make (read -justify-) money out of thin air :)
The "people in charge" don't care if NEX Store will ruin the game. That's not the problem. lol The "people in charge" don't care if the game will be shutdown. They are using EVE now as a test for WoD anyway - which will be their FLAG SHIP. Easier to "clean" money with that "business model". Hilmar is just a pawn. He has no power to make any decisions. Why is CCP acting like this? Crown control. Too much curiosity and research might lead way down the rabbit hole. Not good for "business".
STOP with all the logical arguments. It's no use. There are more at stake here than just "the game experience".
HINT: Island is not part of European Union HINT: Island has a rather convenient economical crysis nowdays HINT: Island has a very flexible approach on fiscality/taxation policy (read -tax heaven-) HINT: Check CCP Shareholders HINT: Further check those companies HINT: Check those companies some more:) HINT: Check the owners of those companies HINT: Check them again and the connections they have with Mother Land :) FINAL HINT: FRUIT (read -****-) OFF!
I like you. You think.
Not 100% accurate, Iceland is in the EEA, that is the European Ecenomic Area, A LOT of EU Directives have WORDING in there that DOES APPLY to EEA members.
Iceland is not 100% free of the EU Directives. read into them further, more specifically EEA wording.
However I don't want to derail this thread about the core issue, CCP is corrupt and greedy and pompous.
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Marcus Vorenius
Task Force 42
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:33:00 -
[12043]
Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers
Originally by: Kristina Vanszar Lady and genetleman, it's a honor to present: MONOCLEGEDDON WORK IN PROGRESS
I was discussing such a page with my friend the other day, cant wait to form a corp with other monoclehunters and when the MT-clowns undock just smash them to pieces.
please send corp invite when up and running
Just to play devils advocate - is this a CCP alt trying to draw me back to the game? ----------------------------------------------- "The No A$$HOLE Rule" by Robert Sutton, PhD |
Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:36:00 -
[12044]
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers
Originally by: Kristina Vanszar Lady and genetleman, it's a honor to present: MONOCLEGEDDON WORK IN PROGRESS
I was discussing such a page with my friend the other day, cant wait to form a corp with other monoclehunters and when the MT-clowns undock just smash them to pieces.
please send corp invite when up and running
Just to play devils advocate - is this a CCP alt trying to draw me back to the game?
Lol no it's not, if CCP chooses to keep ONLY VANITY items, we're going after them. If not, I'm out with 3 of 4 accounts.
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Jeff Geoff
Gallente Reprocity
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:37:00 -
[12045]
I had a look at this Internet talk http://www.slideshare.net/bcousins/paying-to-win by Ben Cousins.
Very interesting. The key point is that a free game successfully introduced the introduction of charges for clothes and better weapons and prospered. They also knew their customer base characteristics and game behaviour in depth.
We are not playing a free game, we pay a monthly subscription.
If CCP wants to introduce selective charges then should they make Eve free and try and live off those who are prepared to pay for vanity items and advantageous items? We can gank the rich dudes for their kit lol.
If CCP are short of cash should they raise the subscription rate?
Should they be completely revolutionary and allow players to make real cash out of the game by selling toons/ships/weapons/monocles/manacles to other players and take a cut of proceeds, say 10%? Would that be legal? Hey I'd love that I'm a trader, could tell the wife I'm "working" as I play.
Just some ideas. Anybody got any other ideas? The cash for game items issue is not going to go away. Nor am I for that matter.
Hey join the goons and get a free trip to Iceland!
Jeff
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:42:00 -
[12046]
Edited by: RougeOperator on 27/06/2011 13:45:40
Originally by: Vandrion Edited by: Vandrion on 27/06/2011 13:21:38 Ok guys.. It is time to start paying attention to other forum sections then this one....
Here is an example of what is going on in the Assembley Hall:
"- Limited use items like the Cerebral Accelerator, which can be used to increase hourly SP gain for a limited duration and speed up skill training, rather than replace it with direct injection of skills/SP. Not strictly limited to new players, but with a time limit on use."
Assembly hall Thread
That knucklehead actually wants SP for $$$.....
CCP alts starting threads for what they plan to do in the future?
Testing the waters?
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:44:00 -
[12047]
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/26/eve-evolved-the-day-that-eve-online-died/
That article is rather good, don't miss the 2nd page.
It's funny, been watching some of those CCP alts, there was one guy that said "we" instead of "they" :-)
Was a good way to get a gauge on their new market. Really Dumb People. i.e. kids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:46:00 -
[12048]
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/26/eve-evolved-the-day-that-eve-online-died/
That article is rather good, don't miss the 2nd page.
It's funny, been watching some of those CCP alts, there was one guy that said "we" instead of "they" :-)
Was a good way to get a gauge on their new market. Really Dumb People. i.e. kids.
They referred to the YELLOW question I asked at the start of this thread that went "quote" VIRAL lol
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:48:00 -
[12049]
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/26/eve-evolved-the-day-that-eve-online-died/
That article is rather good, don't miss the 2nd page.
It's funny, been watching some of those CCP alts, there was one guy that said "we" instead of "they" :-)
Was a good way to get a gauge on their new market. Really Dumb People. i.e. kids.
WE
LOL nice catch.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:48:00 -
[12050]
Edited by: Vandrion on 27/06/2011 13:52:39
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/26/eve-evolved-the-day-that-eve-online-died/
That article is rather good, don't miss the 2nd page.
It's funny, been watching some of those CCP alts, there was one guy that said "we" instead of "they" :-)
Was a good way to get a gauge on their new market. Really Dumb People. i.e. kids.
They referred to the YELLOW question I asked at the start of this thread that went "quote" VIRAL lol
That's because you care enough to scream LOUDLY and in yellow! Keep it up!
Edit for fail posting in the middle of a quote...
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Otry Callemere
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:49:00 -
[12051]
The thing that scares me about this whole debacle is the fact that ccp with possibly good intentions possibly not, Has dropped possibly one of the biggest drama bombs ever in he history of the game.
micro transactions are fine if some dip**** with more money then sense wants to buy a $60 monacle let him.
But when the idea of letting some noob buy his way into ships/mods/ammo that is only avaliable on the nex market while i have had to grind for quite literally YEARS to gain access to this stuff then it becomes a massive problem.
the CQ issue i am not even going into because it will just add another rage post but for the love of god and all tha is holy make it bloody optional. It's not much to ask for.I don't care about walking about in stations if i wanted to walk about i would go play second life or some other avatar base game.EVE is internet spaceships not strutting around with my monacle and jack boots.
in short vanity items cool beans for those who want them,in game items to increase performance? heelll no if such items ever came into the game it would break me tbh thats the point i would say ftn and go find another game in which i can do what i like gank who i like grief who i like...oh wait there isn't one eve is unique ccp please don't break it anymore.
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Vapidity
Amarr My Monkeys 2 round banannas
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:49:00 -
[12052]
My sub runs out soon.. but I wanted to put this forth... CCP will lock this thread soon and say 'it's run it's course' and lock any further threads that spawn. Then the player base will go back to playing a game run by a bunch of liars.
So... at this point.. IBTL. We all know that they will put this issue to bed here before the week is out and stomp on any further attempt to discuss it.
This is CCP we are talking about here.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:50:00 -
[12053]
Originally by: Vandrion
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/26/eve-evolved-the-day-that-eve-online-died/
That article is rather good, don't miss the 2nd page.
It's funny, been watching some of those CCP alts, there was one guy that said "we" instead of "they" :-)
Was a good way to get a gauge on their new market. Really Dumb People. i.e. kids.
That's because you care enough to scream LOUDLY and in yellow! Keep it up!
They referred to the YELLOW question I asked at the start of this thread that went "quote" VIRAL lol
I refuse to use GOLD text.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:52:00 -
[12054]
Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 13:53:43 Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 13:53:28 Really should find that post.
No avatar, saying "we" and point form crazy RMT ideas.
edit: with a lil "we're only doing it cause we love you"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:53:00 -
[12055]
Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 13:52:55
Can I apply for the job of NEX artist please? Here is a sample of my recent work.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1106/CCPRoyalsLaugh.jpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1106/StarWarsHelloKittyDarthVaderVanityItemsAlterPlan.jpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1106/CCPMMOofTheYearAward.jpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1106/EveFarmville.jpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1106/IncarnaWarping.jpg
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Minigin
Undead Stuffed Bunnies
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:54:00 -
[12056]
ccp dont apologise to these noobs. they would never actually quit.
<----- ps. checkout my hardcore monocle .
color poastar.
Revisal > Nice job trying to troll me but luckily I'm smarter than you. :D
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Elayae
Gallente Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:57:00 -
[12057]
Of course our posted issues and concerns will decline at some point, when we talk to a brick wall.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:58:00 -
[12058]
Originally by: Minigin ccp dont apologise to these noobs. they would never actually quit.
<----- ps. checkout my hardcore monocle
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:58:00 -
[12059]
Originally by: Elayae
Of course our posted issues and concerns will decline at some point, when we talk to a brick wall.
They're all busy spreading the love in perpetuum forums :)
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Andrei Vassaliev
Cursed Inc. Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.06.27 13:58:00 -
[12060]
Edited by: Andrei Vassaliev on 27/06/2011 14:07:56 I invest something like 26Ç/month in your company since ~5 years. I'am really disappointed by you CCP, and I don't approve your future vision of EVE.
I came into EVE Online because it was a MMO spaceship video game. For 26Ç/month, I expected more than unfinished and questionable expansion/features. Moreover, this money is not supposed to pay the development of a f***ing FPS game on PS3, nor a Vampire MMO. Your last extension is the worst I ever seen, and your marketing policy is an insult to your older and faithful customers.
That's why I stopped my investment in your company by cancelling my 2 accounts subscriptions. Congrats.
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