Funny thing, interpretation - it seems CCP meant "Jesus Feature" as something along the lines of a feature that's meant to redeem everything and be important enough to neglect core aspects of the game in favour of it. Which was what sparked the riots of Incarna - it wasn't the fact WiS is a bad idea, it was the fact CCP neglected old issues in favour of a shoddily implemented, hardware-melting pointless feature.

Of course, such is the fate of definitions not set in stone - they are prone to being wrapped the way most fitting one's point of view. Meh, c'est la vie.

Funny thing, interpretation - it seems CCP meant "Jesus Feature" as something along the lines of a feature that's meant to redeem everything and be important enough to neglect core aspects of the game in favour of it. Which was what sparked the riots of Incarna - it wasn't the fact WiS is a bad idea, it was the fact CCP neglected old issues in favour of a shoddily implemented, hardware-melting pointless feature.

Of course, such is the fate of definitions not set in stone - they are prone to being wrapped the way most fitting one's point of view. Meh, c'est la vie.

Funny thing, interpretation - it seems CCP meant "Jesus Feature" as something along the lines of a feature that's meant to redeem everything and be important enough to neglect core aspects of the game in favour of it. Which was what sparked the riots of Incarna - it wasn't the fact WiS is a bad idea, it was the fact CCP invested all of the time energy and cash in Dust and WOD development whilst using the same development resources to create a shoddily implemented, hardware-melting starter feature that has yet to have any further development due to the angry fallout over the 'Greed is Good' memo and the Nex Store.

Of course, such is the fate of definitions not set in stone - they are prone to being wrapped the way most fitting one's point of view. Meh, That's Life!.

This is the reason we can't have nice things.

Whiners that are afraid to try any new or interesting ideas.

When the WiS fetishists have some new and interesting ideas we can talk.

When the WiS fetishists have some new and interesting ideas we can talk.

OK. Dear CCP, this may sound stupid but I assure you that is a good marketing practice, e.g. check your market. Run a few surveys and find out really what people want and if there is a business case for WIS.

Gather information on features posted by EVE players in the forums. Play them back to them into surveys.

1. Run a survey internally within CCP personnel. This will help you to check how much internal support you have.

2. Run a survey with your current users. This will help to gauge if people will use it and what features people value mostly

3. Run a few surveys in the gaming community and see what people out there are looking for in next generation Sci-fi MMO

Then collate the results and see if there is an economical case for this to be implemented:

- Additional subscriptions?
- Retain subscriptions?
- Implementation cost?

In surveys you can also ask if people would accept this as an unlockable feature for PLEX. Nobody should think that access to stations is supposed to be free. So could be for a permanent upgrade to your clones cognitive system to allow you to pilot the ship manually.

Most importantly ensure that the results are shared with the community. This will shut up the minority, whatever that is.

I would second that, but not just a "theme" project, but as a recurrent way to deal with EVE's massive complexity.

Of course, CCP already haves some surveying procedures, which rely on number crunching from the servers and asking whoever 14% of the playerbase gets to elect as CSM, and they are quite content with it. The idea of engaging the passive anonymous uninvested masses is not exactly popular anywhere in CCP.

So, all in all: good post, good idea, wrong company.

If you look at new features that are aimed at increasing market share you should be looking outward as well. More players available in EVE means more fun and a gain for all parties. In that case handle the internal view through CSM, which represent the old, the unchangeable, the interest of the large alliances. We should never forget that after 10 years, new players are a whole new generation.

Actual new, 100% inexpert players are becoming more of a rare sight than a generation thing. And the plans to change that are nebulous at best.

But anyway, whatever happens to EVE it's not in our hands. We are mere bystanders, for as much as we care, it's not our business nor our way to earn a living.

I personally will be taking a break when my PLEX expires tomorrow; have been playing the game for like 9 months since I returned from my previous break and it's been enough for now. As I said a few times, one can only bang her head on a door that many times...

I took a couple of breaks from eve myself after 7 years of subscriptions. It does help to get away and try something else, Chribba also takes the same view. Thing is though ccp should actually be trying to prevent older players from leaving at all as there's a chance that they may not come back. SC and Elite Dangerous are quality projects built around avatar content which incidentally has been shown to be the best game format to overcome the social wall that CCP seagull is worried about and create new customers that remain customers. For any business it has to be easier to keep an existing customer than to go chasing new ones all of the time. I'm just amazed that ccp can't see that.

EVE has a great story behind it that unfortunately isn't told by shooting red crosses in space. I believe that developing avatar based game play would help create a more immersive experience which would attract new player and retain them.

I was open minded about ccp's plans to improve the space ship experience in EVE but a year down the line, they haven't really added anything new and exciting to the game. I think it would be better for EVE in the long run if they split their development team and put half on fixing and improving spaceships, while the other half implemented RPG style avatar based gameplay.

I agree with the sentiment completely, except I would make a small amendment. I wouldn't cut their current Eve resources in half, I would reallocate all the Valkyrie team back to Eve and get that proportion of development working on Avatar content. They're running too many projects. Go back to working on Valkyrie after some of the others are pulling in an income. Dust and WoD are a long way from holding their own weight.

With CSM remaining rather focused on the matters that actually matter, I guess one of the NDA features could be a long-term sov revamp or changes to POSes. Which is, pretty much, the next thing we need.

Right after another round of what amusingly mostly forumgoers cry about - rebalancing. A chunk of T2 ships is still waiting for their turn..

http://themittani.com/features/falling-subscription-numbers-what-can-be-done

Lol, that article is hylarious and out of touch with the real world.
That's sad cause that guy, on the countrary, often write intelligent stuff.

http://themittani.com/features/falling-subscription-numbers-what-can-be-done

The answer: CCP actually working on this. Incarna is likely to be the number one piece of content that attracts new players. Deployable structures will not attract new players. Rebalancing capital ships will not attract new players.

THIS WILL ATTRACT NEW PLAYERS.

Incarna, rightly done, would help.

If I had it my way. I would be getting CCP to prioritise modular POS's with interiors. Let players build a real home in space.

I've asserted something similar to this before, but not in so few words. Modular POSes with Interiors is more or less exactly the direction I would want Eve moving towards.

We need more underwear!!!