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Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
315
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:34:00 -
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You cry for more targets but then will not remove your greatest foe LOCAL chat.
Some want it removed. It most like it for its ease of Intel gathering.
And now to the main point.
How can u be such a Carebear and need ccp to keep local so you feel safe. Knowing you have your instant intel ever time you jump in system.
And dont even say if there was only a better way to get intel.
You have probes, combat probes, deep space probes, and D-Scan. If you dont know how they work ask Your wh dwelling friends about there combat scanning.
Local is the tool of the weak minded sheep of null sec. You should be ashamed of your self. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |

Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
144
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:36:00 -
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CCP, remove local
good |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
1004
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:37:00 -
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"It works for wormholes, so it should work for nullsec. Right? RIGHT?" lol no. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
851
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:37:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:You cry for more targets but then will not remove your greatest foe LOCAL chat.
Some want it removed. It most like it for its ease of Intel gathering.
And now to the main point.
How can u be such a Carebear and need ccp to keep local so you feel safe. Knowing you have your instant intel ever time you jump in system.
And dont even say if there was only a better way to get intel.
You have probes, combat probes, deep space probes, and D-Scan. If you dont know how they work ask Your wh dwelling friends about there combat scanning.
Local is the tool of the weak minded sheep of null sec. You should be ashamed of your self.
You forgot to mention easy kills ccp offers to keep us entertained by making high sec less safer for those living there. This will not change low or null sec populace numbers or even interest, but will keep the highest concentration of alt account/plex buyers satisfied.

brb |

Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
144
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:38:00 -
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I will say it again
CCP do remove local in null |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
322
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:39:00 -
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How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. |

Braxus Deninard
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
48
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:40:00 -
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Another quality GD thread. |

Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
315
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:40:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:"It works for wormholes, so it should work for nullsec. Right? RIGHT?" lol no.
Look its one of the herd coming to defend local and hide behind its safety of instant Intel. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1988
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:46:00 -
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statistically, wormhole space is the safest place next to highsec
who knew that making stargates collapsible by ratting carriers would make space far, far safer? |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
323
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:47:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:"It works for wormholes, so it should work for nullsec. Right? RIGHT?" lol no. Natsett Amuinn wrote:How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. Look its one of the herd coming to defend local and hide behind its safety of instant Intel. And more of the sheep people show them selfs. Seriously?
This member of the herd doesn't rely on local for intell genius, I use a chanell specifically for that.
Grow up. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
851
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:49:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all.
Never ever do what this guy asks ccp !!!
Cloak alts serve a purpose, it's a valid tactic and pressure over enemies and everyone uses them. And then you silly idea will simply and definitively eradicate from the game hot-dropping and the purpose of cloacky characters. It's their purpose, deal with it or die.
brb |

Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
521
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:52:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:You cry for more targets but then will not remove your greatest foe LOCAL chat.
No.
There's greatest foe is the bluelist.
Just 'wood for the trees' issue.
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1988
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:53:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. Never ever do what this guy asks ccp !!! Cloak alts serve a purpose, it's a valid tactic and pressure over enemies and everyone uses them. And then you silly idea will simply and definitively eradicate from the game hot-dropping and the purpose of cloacky characters. It's their purpose, deal with it or die. good lord |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2944
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:54:00 -
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If they remove local how will I smack in local?  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Nor Tzestu
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
47
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:58:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:If they remove local how will I smack in local? 
Not empty quoting...sort of
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:58:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. Never ever do what this guy asks ccp !!! Cloak alts serve a purpose, it's a valid tactic and pressure over enemies and everyone uses them. And then you silly idea will simply and definitively eradicate from the game hot-dropping and the purpose of cloacky characters. It's their purpose, deal with it or die. No it doesn't, and it actually solves the issue of "afk cloakers" that people keep bitchign about.
Where do you get the idea that afk cloaking is about forcing people into stations? That is neither right, nor fun, it sure isn't a benefit to PvP in null.
If you cloak, you shouldn't show on local, that way you can actually utilize those cynos to hotdrop on people in a system, because they didn't dock up the second you entered and cloaked.
The whole point of cloaking is so that people DON'T KNOW YOUR THERE. Local for cloaked ships limits there capacity to act as recon and intel, because people dock up when they see you there.
I can't sit in a system and spy if you know I'm there, and I can't hotdrop a fleet on a group when they know I'm there.
PS: Sounds a lot more like you don't want cloaked recon to actually be able to do these things to you, because currently you can just dock up and effectively neuter the recon and intel guys. |

Craft Matar
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:58:00 -
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Though I am a noob and have never ventured into null I can see the point of ridding null of local,
Who in there right mind would advertise there location deep in enemy territory It makes black ops kind of pointless GÇô im cloaked, sneaking though behind enemy lines but I forgot to turn off my system wide transmitter ? eh. A compromise would be a module that removes you from local
Run silent - ? |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1988
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:59:00 -
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anyways, reading this little blog:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3235 Null Sec PVP: 7,061,988 PVE: 568,353 Total: 7,630,341
Wormhole Space
PVP: 377,786 PVE: 162,126 Total: 539,912
so wormholes have 1/4 of the population of 0.0 but 1/20th of the PvP action and certain members start threads about other secstatus places being too safe
how embarassing |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:01:00 -
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Craft Matar wrote:Though I am a noob and have never ventured into null I can see the point of ridding null of local,
Who in there right mind would advertise there location deep in enemy territory It makes black ops kind of pointless GÇô im cloaked, sneaking though behind enemy lines but I forgot to turn off my system wide transmitter ? eh. A compromise would be a module that removes you from local
Run silent - ? That ONLY effects the cloaked ship.
Again, remove cloaked ships from local and they can actually do recon and intel instead of just causing everyone to dock up. |

Craft Matar
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:04:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Craft Matar wrote:Though I am a noob and have never ventured into null I can see the point of ridding null of local,
Who in there right mind would advertise there location deep in enemy territory It makes black ops kind of pointless GÇô im cloaked, sneaking though behind enemy lines but I forgot to turn off my system wide transmitter ? eh. A compromise would be a module that removes you from local
Run silent - ? That ONLY effects the cloaked ship. Again, remove cloaked ships from local and they can actually do recon and intel instead of just causing everyone to dock up.
But you could fit a module to any ship |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
851
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:05:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. Never ever do what this guy asks ccp !!! Cloak alts serve a purpose, it's a valid tactic and pressure over enemies and everyone uses them. And then you silly idea will simply and definitively eradicate from the game hot-dropping and the purpose of cloacky characters. It's their purpose, deal with it or die. No it doesn't, and it actually solves the issue of "afk cloakers" that people keep bitchign about. Where do you get the idea that afk cloaking is about forcing people into stations? That is neither right, nor fun, it sure isn't a benefit to PvP in null. If you cloak, you shouldn't show on local, that way you can actually utilize those cynos to hotdrop on people in a system, because they didn't dock up the second you entered and cloaked. The whole point of cloaking is so that people DON'T KNOW YOUR THERE. Local for cloaked ships limits there capacity to act as recon and intel, because people dock up when they see you there. I can't sit in a system and spy if you know I'm there, and I can't hotdrop a fleet on a group when they know I'm there. PS: Sounds a lot more like you don't want cloaked recon to actually be able to do these things to you, because currently you can just dock up and effectively neuter the recon and intel guys.
If the guy is afk how can he even hurt you?-can you seriously answer this question?
If he's afk he can't do anything to you If he's cloacky just do what it takes to bait it and get it.
That easy.
EDIT: I actually know a little bit more about cloacking and about cloacky reccon than you, and I don't give a crap you know I'm there when I'm not afk (more often than actually baiting idiots). If you're looking for the ultimate null sec hunter buff, then you clearly don't want anything else than ruining the game for every one, because once this is possible, even lvl1's in high sec will be far more interesting than whatever null sec rating.
You're clearly bad at thinking. brb |

Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
315
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:06:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:anyways, reading this little blog: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3235Null Sec PVP: 7,061,988 PVE: 568,353 Total: 7,630,341 Wormhole Space PVP: 377,786 PVE: 162,126 Total: 539,912 so wormholes have 1/4 of the population of 0.0 but 1/20th of the PvP action and certain members start threads about other secstatus places being too safe how embarassing
Your over looking that's the the nature of whs that make it safer. Not the lack of local. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1988
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:10:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:anyways, reading this little blog: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3235Null Sec PVP: 7,061,988 PVE: 568,353 Total: 7,630,341 Wormhole Space PVP: 377,786 PVE: 162,126 Total: 539,912 so wormholes have 1/4 of the population of 0.0 but 1/20th of the PvP action and certain members start threads about other secstatus places being too safe how embarassing Your over looking that's the the nature of whs that make it safer. Not the lack of local. I'm not overlooking it, I remember the giant threadnaughts in response to the idea of a 'wormhole stabilizer' module that would bring risk to wormhole life. |

S'Way
Bitter Vets
136
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:10:00 -
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Local isn't the greatest foe in 0.0 causing the lack of targets - the massive blue lists are.
All removing local will do is cause spamming of the directional scanner by everyone, putting more load on the server. Maybe a delayed local based on the sec status of the systems could work (with 1.0 being instant and gradual delays from there). |

Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
315
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:13:00 -
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S'Way wrote:Local isn't the greatest foe in 0.0 causing the lack of targets - the massive blue lists are.
All removing local will do is cause spamming of the directional scanner by everyone, putting more load on the server. Maybe a delayed local based on the sec status of the systems could work (with 1.0 being instant and gradual delays from there).
No, no easy Intel if you don't want to work for it you don't deserve it. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:19:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. Never ever do what this guy asks ccp !!! Cloak alts serve a purpose, it's a valid tactic and pressure over enemies and everyone uses them. And then you silly idea will simply and definitively eradicate from the game hot-dropping and the purpose of cloacky characters. It's their purpose, deal with it or die. No it doesn't, and it actually solves the issue of "afk cloakers" that people keep bitchign about. Where do you get the idea that afk cloaking is about forcing people into stations? That is neither right, nor fun, it sure isn't a benefit to PvP in null. If you cloak, you shouldn't show on local, that way you can actually utilize those cynos to hotdrop on people in a system, because they didn't dock up the second you entered and cloaked. The whole point of cloaking is so that people DON'T KNOW YOUR THERE. Local for cloaked ships limits there capacity to act as recon and intel, because people dock up when they see you there. I can't sit in a system and spy if you know I'm there, and I can't hotdrop a fleet on a group when they know I'm there. PS: Sounds a lot more like you don't want cloaked recon to actually be able to do these things to you, because currently you can just dock up and effectively neuter the recon and intel guys. If the guy is afk how can he even hurt you?-can you seriously answer this question? If he's afk he can't do anything to you If he's cloacky just do what it takes to bait it and get it. That easy. EDIT: I actually know a little bit more about cloacking and about cloacky reccon than you, and I don't give a crap you know I'm there when I'm not afk (more often than actually baiting idiots). If you're looking for the ultimate null sec hunter buff, then you clearly don't want anything else than ruining the game for every one, because once this is possible, even lvl1's in high sec will be far more interesting than whatever null sec rating. You're clearly bad at thinking.
Yeah, I do believe one of the reasons I gave for removing cloaks fromlocal is the "OMG people are afk cloaked in my system", in other words "the bitching about afk cloaks".
I don't give a **** if someone is afk, I understand full well that an afk player isn't a thread.
But I also understand that removing local doesn't generate more targets. Chat has **** to do with how many people you get to shoot at.
No local makes null harder, fact. Harder means fewer people, fact. Cloakers are only driving people into stations, fact. People sitting in stations doesn't generate more pvp, fact. People in stations reduces the number of targets, fact.
CCP will not remove local from null. We can even get into the entirely geeky reason that it's actually counter to the lore they've already written. Yes, indeed, I went there.
Knowing the cloaked ship is there isn't good. It's better people didn't know they were there. If they don't know they're there, they won't dock, they'll remeain a potential target, and the cloaked guy can actually bring in guys, or maybe even uncloak and get that lone guy sitting there. All that is much better than your desire to cause people to dock.
Making people dock is about as ******* boring as you can get.
And no, you don't "know more about cloaking" than anyone else, get over yourself. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1592
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:25:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:You cry for more targets but then will not remove your greatest foe LOCAL chat.
Some want it removed. It most like it for its ease of Intel gathering.
And now to the main point.
How can u be such a Carebear and need ccp to keep local so you feel safe. Knowing you have your instant intel ever time you jump in system.
And dont even say if there was only a better way to get intel.
You have probes, combat probes, deep space probes, and D-Scan. If you dont know how they work ask Your wh dwelling friends about there combat scanning.
Local is the tool of the weak minded sheep of null sec. You should be ashamed of your self. First of all, no, we don't cry for more targets, we want CCP to not giving up to hisec players whining about their space is not "safe enough". We want hisec players to play the game as they want, but accept the fact that others can/should be able to do what they want as well; like kicking your sandcastle and throw sand to your face. This is a sandbox game, or is it not?
Carebear, bear, nullbear (or any other variation of bears thereof) and nullsec doesn't even go in the same sentence. A carebear defines an unwillingness to be involved in pvp or people who's trying to avoid them at all cost. Whether they actually do pvp on a daily basis or not at all, is irrelevant. Just by coming to nullsec, you accept that part of Eve. Because, unlike hisec, you can't stay docked up forever or switch corps or alliances to avoid wardecs, you're comitted, to live in an unsafe place. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
317
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:32:00 -
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Some one please till me how no local makes null HARDER to find targets in? A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1989
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:32:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote: And no, you don't "know more about cloaking" than anyone else, get over yourself.
i've been in thousands of wormhole systems in a covops and never lost a ship, but you don't see me lecturing two step |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
852
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:32:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote: No local makes null harder, fact.
Makes it simply impossible without extreme organisation for whatever activity. This is not "good" for GAMING, it's a second job or a full one you're asking for.
Quote:Harder means fewer people, fact. Cloakers are only driving people into stations, fact. People sitting in stations doesn't generate more pvp, fact. People in stations reduces the number of targets, fact.
You forgot the most important fact ever: less players less targets: fact
You still clearly don't see the picture of your claimings, the easier and interesting you make so players actually have fun doing "stuff" the more you get population=targets=content=living place=every one benefits The other way around it's a solo game and you clearly don't belong to an mmorpg game but a solo one with your own server and rules where you're the dev/game master/isd/player/alliance-corp leader etc.
This is just ridiculous.
Quote:All that is much better than your desire to cause people to dock.
Making people dock is about as ******* boring as you can get.
If your corporation or alliance is unable to to make that place safe to you, they/you don't deserve it anyway.
Quote:And no, you don't "know more about cloaking" than anyone else, get over yourself.
Since the beginning your claims are from someone not even knowing goonswarm/CFC has specific and dedicated "wings" for this single purpose (much like every other alliance), witch makes of you a noob running his mouth because he can or simply a random bee who doesn't even know what's going on on his own alliance.
I can even name those wings for you if you really need me to refresh your ideas or eventually get some interest for what's going on in your own alliance instead of posting stuff you clearly have no idea the repercussions in a huge part of this game. brb |
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