yeah it's not like a single ship can create some kind of beacon that other ships can jump to

yeah it's not like a single ship can create some kind of beacon that other ships can jump to

Another quality GD thread.

Bots are guaranteed to be more efficient at keeping up their diligence, and respond to things like someone showing up on d-scan, popping up on overview and popping off the cyno etc.

So, what exactly do you think will happen if local was removed from nullsec?

I don't even want to remove local from nullsec, just said that it makes your bots 100% safe.

All I'd change is delay it until a ship breaks gate cloak.

FWIW, cloaked ships still don't show on dscan.

All I'd change is delay it until a ship breaks gate cloak.

I don't even want to remove local from nullsec, just said that it makes your bots 100% safe. All I'd change is delay it until a ship breaks gate cloak.

FWIW, cloaked ships still don't show on dscan.

That's impossible, because being away from keyboard means you cannot activate the cyno module

It's only safe because wormhole dwellers invest the time and effort to make it safe, and even that doesn't work all the time

Is that because collapsing a wormhole is the only way wormholers can win a fight in w-space?

Keep in mind this thread is based entirely around OP complaining about use of player-maintained intel channels.

No my problems with you using local as a Intel channel and Having nothing I can do to get around it.

No my problems with you using local as a Intel channel and Having nothing I can do to get around it.

So you come up with an idea which means null would contain basically nothing but fleet fights, bots and ... that's it. If there'll even be bots there, if they aren't moved to hisec as well.

I see.

You should probably ask some of the people that make living in nullsec statistically five times as dangerous as living in a wormhole how they get around it.

My ideas sound.

Its your laziness that's the problem, u don't want to have to actively guard the space u have claimed ownership to.

My ideas sound.

Its your laziness that's the problem, u don't want to have to actively guard the space u have claimed ownership to.

"Your idea isn't sound, here's why."
"No, my idea is sound." No explanation.

What part of "nobody is going to rat in nullsec anymore" don't you understand?

So that's your opinion, me saying local is broken is backed up by a video dev blog where the LEADING game development guy says it needs fixed.

U know you have spent 21 pages yelling how with out local your so bad at eve u will die to every pvper that comes by your system. That is truly sad.

Why don't u spend less time.shitting up my threads and more time.think.how.to.protect.your.self in a.locales null.

So that's your opinion, me saying local is broken is backed up by a video dev blog where the LEADING game development guy says it needs fixed.

U know you have spent 21 pages yelling how with out local your so bad at eve u will die to every pvper that comes by your system. That is truly sad.

Why don't u spend less time.shitting up my threads

and more time.think.how.to.protect.your.self in a.locales null.

You would.accomplish more.

Stop talking about "[your] bots". I don't run any bots.

I can agree with that, since that still leaves people in a system time to react.

And? Humans would still have worse reaction time or adherence to staying aligned to something warpable than bots ever could, so I don't see why this matters "against bots".

First good suggestion in this thread.
Did you click on the link in my sig or something?

Ok. It makes bots run by nullseccers 100% safe. Happy?

You would have even more time if you had someone watching or listening to the gate.

Aligned ships need to be bump tackled, regardless of what is controlling them. Reaction time becomes secondary to ship align vs targeting delay+locking time in that situation.

Yes.

Nah, because there are easy workarounds to local. If you want to look at 100% safe bots, look at hisec. Especially after retribution hits.

Yeah, let's imagine how much fun it would if it was required to have one person sitting on each gate and each WH entrance, and the only thing they could do was stare at the gate for hours on end, for no pay.

I literally cannot imagine a more fun way of spending my time in EVE. Hoo boy.

And bots would still be better equipped with dealing with that situation than humans would. Your point?

Interestingly enough, local does not protect bots.

That is exactly what we need to do. We run sites always in a hostile system, which means we also need eyes on the tower(s) of the local people, as well as continuosly probe for an incoming wormholes. Luckily passively listening to wormholes (or gates in yoru case) is a task easily handled by alts, but as a human player actively scouting the system is always better, the scout gets the same payout as the guys shooting sleepers.

I don't find shooting red crosses that much fun either and would prefer scouting. However as long as many players need the ISK from PVE, it's just **** that needs to be done, and working as a team to do it as safely as possibly makes it almost fun.

Actually I think human brain is far superior in analyzing the situation and adjusting reactions in that situation, as the reaction time advantage becomes meaningless when you are bumped out of aligned and pointed. Both will probably die

Nah, because there are easy workarounds to local. If you want to look at 100% safe bots, look at hisec. Especially after retribution hits.


Yeah, let's imagine how much fun it would if it was required to have one person sitting on each gate and each WH entrance, and the only thing they could do was stare at the gate for hours on end, for no pay.

I literally cannot imagine a more fun way of spending my time in EVE. Hoo boy.


And bots would still be better equipped with dealing with that situation than humans would. Your point?

It's almost as if I didn't just say exactly that.


Payouts in WH are higher, and there's less places which you must keep an eye out on. You also don't have the threat of someone logging in a char they moved in a day ago, tackling you and cynoing in enough other people to kill you off well before anyone has any chance of reacting.