U know the only time I have EVER died in null sec out side of fleet fights was when I was not watching local because I was in the middle of an argument with some corp mates, that was 6 months ago, and I played eve for many years. 1 ship in All that time across all my null sec accounts is out of proportion with how null sec should work.

I will agree with most people and say high sec IS to profitable, but null sec is to safe.
Low sec sucks over all and is just garbage.

The only reason it's "too safe" is because a vast majority of carebears have moved to hisec to make money there instead, and your suggestion will do absolutely nothing to fix this problem, it'll just exacerbate it.

It's a bad suggestion.

Just because high sec is to profitable vs its risk dose not make fixing local as an Intel tool a bad idea.

So what's your suggestion of a replacement tool, then?

You change local to.work like WH local.
Add a counter to the UI that tells you the number of people in system.

Problem.solved u know if there's people.in system but not if there hostile or not.
Skilled players use this to hide.
Alliances still get warnings when the number spikes that there's a large fleet in there systems.

That's not a suggestion, that's a joke. Try again.

You change local to.work like WH local.

That fixes all the problems.

with local and dose.not.leave you running around in the dark.

It doesn't fix all the problems, it removes any useful information could possibly think of, except for in systems with nobody else in the system.


Yes, it does. The number tells you absolutely nothing useful except if you're in a system with nobody else in it.

This replacement mechanic is a joke, try again.

That's all it should do, eves not here to hold your hand if u jump in system and see 5 in that box clearly there 4 + u now start warping to planets and d scanning warping to anoms and d scanning drop your probes and call for back up, if you can't do one of these to find your target Well just get the hell out of eve your to stupid to play.

Clearly your to dependent on local all ready.

Its not like removing local all of a.sudden makes.scan.probes.and d.scan stop working.

Yeah, let's use scan probes and dscan in every single system we pass through trying to find ratters that aren't going to be there in 9 out of 10 systems at least.

Yeah, let's use scan probes and dscan in every single system we pass through trying to find ratters that aren't going to be there in 9 out of 10 systems at least.

Let's.use.local.to.make sure.ever one knows a.red.jump it system 100% of the time.

Let's.use.local.to.make sure.ever one knows a.red.jump it system 100% of the time.

Confirming that the way to encourage people to go to nullsec is to make every aspect of life there as frustrating and time-consuming as possible.

Yep clearly not Having a instant local makes.everything harder, clearly u like easy mode null sec where.no one can.sneak up on U.

Like I said your cowards, if its not 100% accurate you Hate it, why don't you grow a pair and decide to put some effort in.

If you don't like risk in null sec go live in high sec your not needed, and you can take all your nullbear friends with you there's no room for them in null sec if there that afraid of risk.

Yep clearly not Having a instant local makes.everything harder, clearly u like easy mode null sec where.no one can.sneak up on U.

Like I said your cowards, if its not 100% accurate you Hate it, why don't you grow a pair and decide to put some effort in.

If you don't like risk in null sec go live in high sec your not needed, and you can take all your nullbear friends with you there's no room for them in null sec if there that afraid of risk.

Are you paying attention at all? Removing local will also make things a hell of a lot harder for people who want to find nullbears and kill them. Is that really what you want?

u said removing.local.will make it harder to find.peoples caved and said fine add a counter to the UI that lists the number of people on system but you ignored.that post.

So what you're saying is people should have to safe when anyone enters a system, red or blue.

It's "ignored" because it's a complete joke of a suggestion.

Give me an.idea that would work any better than.mine and not just be a replacement for local.

O yea u can't because u don't want local to go away you use it to stay safe, your only posting because your trying to troll, or you that much of a nullbear u need local.


I no longer have time to keep playing your game but I will keep using your posts as a Reason to bump my thread.

Massive burn dude.

Nullbear, zing!

let's see Zim come back from that one!

Give me an.idea that would work any better than.mine and not just be a replacement for local.

O yea u can't because u don't want local to go away you use it to stay safe, your only posting because your trying to troll, or you that much of a nullbear u need local.

No, there's not a problem with local, except for people who are complete and utter failures at ganking and just wants CCP to give them an extra edge, without contemplating the effects it would have on people trying to live in nullsec.


The fact of the matter is, you have absolutely no good argument against local, other than "hurr you're a nullbear durr". And I'll just have you know, it's not my responsibility to come up with a counter-proposal to your awful suggestion, it's your responsibility to come up with arguments for your terrible suggestion, and we've debunked those arguments thoroughly and repeatedly.

And just to be thorough, I'll reiterate: the only thing your suggestions would do is depopulate null even further. You can ***** and whine as much as you'd like about "hurr nullbears are cowards", I couldn't give less of a flying ****, I'm making more than enough isk in hisec on my hisec char that I don't have to log in to do anything in nullsec other than undock, take FC's orders and fire when told to fire, then dock back up. And that doesn't require local in any way, shape or form.