get rid of local everywhere except when you chat, it is about time. CCP make it so!

I see none of u have answered my question yet.

Your ratting in null sec watching local and see a red pop up in local.

What do you do?

You mean the question where the answer is "I safe up"?

What of it?

2) EvE isn't just about promoting pvp. You can cry about it, but its a space sim which means promoting a variety of activities - even in dull sec.

3) Whoever said most people head to dull for pvp is high. Everyone I know who's gone has gone for the risk free isk.

Oh cute, yet another NPC corp alt weighs in on how a certain portion of the game they don't understand should be changed to fit their selfish vision.

Sounds like the Razor noob is butt hurt. Did you even watch local as they took your systems? LOL

its a space sim

I will conclude with one of Agent Smith's most famous quotes:

"You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until you realise you can actually do the same thing for a lot less hassle somewhere else, and ther'e's no benefit to you risking your ship everyday. The only way you can compete with all the other players with High Sec alts is to spread to another area (i.e. High Sec). There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?GRRRRRRR GOONS!"

See, here's the problem: Null-sec was the little playground that CCP had set aside to see just what would happen when players were given complete control of everything. Now scroll back and re-read this from the start one more time. You null-bears want to know who's to blame for your boredom? Look in the mirror. You made null-sec the dull, daily ISK grind that it is today. You made people (read: potential PvP targets) stop coming into your areas. You formed a bunch of little islands in space, stockpiled guns in your basements, put fifteen locks on the doors and stuck up "No Trespassing" signs all over the place... and now you're surprised that no one comes over to visit any more. And just like crazy survivalist nuts who watch zombie movies all day who hopes the world really will end just so they can have carte blanche to go on a consequence free shooting spree, now the null-sec dwellers are tired of wading in their own poop and are busy looking for a new neighborhood to wreck. Preferably one with less player-sponsored-CSM-backed-bad-decision-poop already in it. Why? So they can institute a whole new wave of player-sponsored-CSM-backed-bad-decisions, of course!

I will conclude with one of Agent Smith's most famous quotes:

"You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus."

Now the null-sec alliances got all kinds of spiffy new perks like guaranteed, infinite spawns of high value rats and top ore belts until the ISK fountain had become an ISK volcano.

Negotiations were made, treaties established, and even the "warfare" of the sovereignty game mechanics fizzed away as the alliances decided to just settle in and suckle the ISK teat that their pet CSMs kept pushing to expand year after year.

Then one day they looked around and realized that they were bored, and set their eyes on high-sec.

See, here's the problem: Null-sec was the little playground that CCP had set aside to see just what would happen when players were given complete control of everything. Now scroll back and re-read this from the start one more time. You null-bears want to know who's to blame for your boredom? Look in the mirror. You made null-sec the dull, daily ISK grind that it is today. You made people (read: potential PvP targets) stop coming into your areas. You formed a bunch of little islands in space, stockpiled guns in your basements, put fifteen locks on the doors and stuck up "No Trespassing" signs all over the place... and now you're surprised that no one comes over to visit any more. And just like crazy survivalist nuts who watch zombie movies all day who hopes the world really will end just so they can have carte blanche to go on a consequence free shooting spree, now the null-sec dwellers are tired of wading in their own poop and are busy looking for a new neighborhood to wreck. Preferably one with less player-sponsored-CSM-backed-bad-decision-poop already in it. Why? So they can institute a whole new wave of player-sponsored-CSM-backed-bad-decisions, of course!

You mean these "high value rats" which don't really pay that much more than L4s, especially if you take into account time spent hiding from roaming gangs and having to replace lost ratting ships? Woooooooooow.

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Sounds like the Razor noob is butt hurt. Did you even watch local as they took your systems? LOL

Does that even mean anything or are you just... saying it?

these are the sort of crying fits and rage posts we get to hear when talk of the mass limit and cynojam safety nets are discussed of being removed. Thanks for helping Roime.

Huh. And here I thought it would've been better for a bot to function in a local-less environment than a human.

I'm going to assume, however, that since local is going away from null, null rats will become 5x as lucrative to shoot as well, right?

I've always found it funny how WH players, living behind their mass-limited safety gate, think they live in truly dangerous space. In dangerous space, when the great white thinks you look tasty, nothing is between you and him but your fists.

yeah because bots aren't able to do things like spamming dscan and warping off when something hostile shows up on grid

they also can't react far quicker than a human ever can

goddamn you should read your own posts sometime

Hey something new for you, might be interesting- cloaked ships don't show up on dscan! And when you see such a ship on grid, it's already too late!

Which would ruin the 100% safety of your bots, tears.

Bots are guaranteed to be more efficient at keeping up their diligence, and respond to things like someone showing up on d-scan, popping up on overview and popping off the cyno etc.

So, what exactly do you think will happen if local was removed from nullsec?


Uh, yeah, that's exactly what'll be the biggest effect of a lack of local in nullsec. Yup. Yessirree.

Trolling. It's happening.

He's moron, ignore him.

Im all for the removal of local and moving to a real life working radar system or somethingof the like. Think X3 for those who've played that beautifully constructed game.

See, here's the problem: Null-sec was the little playground that CCP had set aside to see just what would happen when players were given complete control of everything. Now scroll back and re-read this from the start one more time. You null-bears want to know who's to blame for your boredom? Look in the mirror. You made null-sec the dull, daily ISK grind that it is today. You made people (read: potential PvP targets) stop coming into your areas. You formed a bunch of little islands in space, stockpiled guns in your basements, put fifteen locks on the doors and stuck up "No Trespassing" signs all over the place... and now you're surprised that no one comes over to visit any more. And just like crazy survivalist nuts who watch zombie movies all day who hopes the world really will end just so they can have carte blanche to go on a consequence free shooting spree, now the null-sec dwellers are tired of wading in their own poop and are busy looking for a new neighborhood to wreck.

Every 4-6 months somebody makes this argument and decides to set up a "thunderdome" region where small entities can have their fun and where the hosting alliance only enforces a "no sov warfare" rule to keep the bullies out.

The results disappoint every single time.

If i held a sov region id make stations charge a fee but anyone can dock. Setup a decent trade hub and cyno jam alot of the systems to prevent capital homosexuality.

statistically, wormhole space is the safest place next to highsec

who knew that making stargates collapsible by ratting carriers would make space far, far safer?

Can someone tell me why I should afraid (for some people terrified) of an AFK cloaked ship. If they are AFK doesn't it mean they aren't there?