You really don't do your alliance credit, you do well to keep the tag off.

Why the **** all do I care enough?

Why the **** all do I care enough?
What does his corp/alliance have anything to do with his ability, or lack there of, to formulate an argument.

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What does his corp/alliance have anything to do with his ability, or lack there of, to formulate an argument.

Oh earlier that newb WHer was mouthing off about how WHers could come in and just bust Nullsecers up. That was quite the laugh I'll tell ya. Frankly I'm not uncomfortable saying that almost any WH group would be curb stomped by any Null alliance, even CVA. This isn't to say that you cats suck or nothing, just that **** is different out here.

They can't be prepared for our slowcats, because you know, wormholes don't let you hotdrop 200 slowcats on someone.

(Obviously CFC doesn't call them that, but you did say cats...)

[quote=MasterEnt]If you really knew the general goon population and really knew Lord Zim, you wouldn't say that. We need every hot sexy beefcake we can get. Otherwise our average swings way to far into the cheeto stained slob end of the spectrum.

You're dumb. Dude from Goon was funnier, he got it
Why U so mad brah

The name of the expansion that removes local from null will be called "Learn how to hunt your prey you lazy stupid nullbears - your mommy local is not here to protect you"


or something like that.

The name of the expansion that removes local from null will be called "Learn how to hunt your prey you lazy stupid nullbears - your mommy local is not here to protect you"


or something like that.

The name of the expansion that removes local from null will be called "Learn how to hunt your prey you lazy stupid nullbears - your mommy local is not here to protect you"


or something like that.

Yes. Wormholers sure have proven adept at finding PvP except they really aren't and on average they fight considerably less than we do.

ho ho ho.

Well maybe if they gave Worm Holers tech moons as well, then they could afford ship replacement programs

You're assuming wormholers have problems affording things.

No I am saying that they probably would not care less about the isk if all they had to do was stuff up a few towers and watch the isk roll in.

But we know this will never happen, CCP only givens handouts like that to Null secers

Huh. When did you figure out what WHers did, or what they had to endure?

So Worm holers can set some thing up with minimal upkeep and gain billions in passive income for their corps?

Are you talking about the tech moons which we've spent hundreds of billions of isk to take/defend, or the SOV which runs into hundreds of billions of isk every month?

Yes and Worm hole corps never have there Pos's attacked and are forced to defend.

If a Worm hole corp tried to hold as many systems as you do yes it would cost them hundreds of billions as well but they would not have the bonuses for sovereignty.

As to the size of the bill well you are the ones paying for so many systems no one said you had too.

So no just because you have fought to defend something that is game breaking does not justify its existence.

So back to the original point, if you gave other sectors moons fully of indispensable goo, available no where else (except by overpriced alchemy) I am sure they would be happy to pvp more with there passive income, paid for ships.

Incidentally, we've been quite vocal about tech being nerfed (it has been heavily nerfed), and now we're quite vocal about alliance income being too top-down instead of being bottom-up. You're a bit behind on this one.

I think no/delayed/Cloakies not showing up in local would make life harder for the null sec alliances, but more interesting for others. I am pretty sure they would adapt though.

It would be easier to kill Bots for a start and I am in favour of that.

It would mean perhaps being less able to hold territory so well, you would actually need players in held systems.

But the crux of this argument back and forth is.

I am in favor of removing local from null as I think it would add more to my game.

or

I am not in favor of removing local from null as it would detract from my game.

But - what would make the game better for the majority?

I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.

Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec.

oh my what a long thread and still all the same arguments and still ccp sitting on their thumbs after years of promises to make local delayed

wasn't all a waste though. if there's one thing that these threads have shown it's that pretty much everyone arguing against delayed local is a fusking botter. ain't no doubt about it

The name of the expansion that removes local from null will be called "Learn how to hunt your prey you lazy stupid nullbears - your mommy local is not here to protect you" or something like that.