Bots have the patience to spam DSCAN every 5+(1/1+RNG) seconds for as long as necessary. Do you?

you forget cloaky don't show up on dscan.

Not sure why you guys consider this nullsec botting as a gameplay problem.

How can u be such a Carebear and need ccp to keep local so you feel safe. Knowing you have your instant intel ever time you jump in system.

there is something that everyone who complains about local is forgetting, even in null sec.

Stargates.

Since you cannot sneak into a system without using the stargates, its impossible (in game) to enter or leave a system without your presence being logged automatically.

1st people say they need local, then they want to get rid of local, and then the idea is that cloaked ships vanish from local.

Forgetting the afk cloaker issue, and that some players seem to want special treatment for hot dropping purposes, there is something that everyone who complains about local is forgetting, even in null sec.

Stargates.

Since you cannot sneak into a system without using the stargates, its impossible (in game) to enter or leave a system without your presence being logged automatically. Hence there is no local as such in wormholes.

Obvious answer is to remove stargates and impliment stasis. Like in Alien.

That is because most null sec alliances farm isk to sell for dollars, if there was no local there would be no macro..

i've been in thousands of wormhole systems in a covops and never lost a ship, but you don't see me lecturing two step or making threads about wormhole space needs wormhole stabilizers and removing its cynojammer properties, etc. or any number of fixes it needs to no longer be second only to highsec in terms of safety and low number of ships killed in pvp

I'm not overlooking it, I remember the giant threadnaughts in response to the idea of a 'wormhole stabilizer' module. You know, an aspect of 0.0 treated as a given that allegedly would 'kill w-space'. It's no mystery to me why the average wormholer is only a quarter as likely to be shot by another player as a 0.0 player. The chestbeating on the other hand, that is the mystery.

You cry for more targets but then will not remove your greatest foe LOCAL chat.

You have probes, combat probes, deep space probes, and D-Scan.

You cry for more targets but then will not remove your greatest foe LOCAL chat.

Some want it removed. It most like it for its ease of Intel gathering.

And now to the main point.

How can u be such a Carebear and need ccp to keep local so you feel safe. Knowing you have your instant intel ever time you jump in system.


And dont even say if there was only a better way to get intel.

You have probes, combat probes, deep space probes, and D-Scan.
If you dont know how they work ask Your wh dwelling friends about there combat scanning.

Local is the tool of the weak minded sheep of null sec. You should be ashamed of your self.

EDIT 10-24-12. I looked at your complaints and have had an idea.



OK i looked at the biggest complain of the null sec people and have come up with a fair deal.
We change local to work like WHs, and add a readout of the number of players in system to the ui,
Now you can still tell if theres a large fleet in your space, u can still tell if theres targets in system, and small gangs and solo pilots still have the chance to slip between the cracks.

If thats not a fair enough deal for u them your just a carebear living in null that likes your local.

wat? I thought the point of removing local was MOAR PVP!!! not slip through the cracks. I've been kind or keeping an eye on this threadnaught but now I see it's a complete joke. I am Jacks utter disappointment.

You've got wormholes, and you've got logging off and logging back in the day after, which is why I keep talking about having to have a ton of alts spread out in system, d-scanning constantly, to notice when hostiles log back in.

Anyone saying they want local removed because it will promote so much more PVP have either absolutely no idea how it'll actually impact the players, or they've gotten kicked out of nullsec and just want to hurt them back.

Not sure where your getting 1/4th of the population from. I can count about 1500 active pvp players in the alliances and corps that are pvp focused.

All of those spend a lot of time using wh to pvp in anyways. seeing as well variety is what keeps the game alive and wormholes aren't very highly populated, no matter what your 1/4th number says

The rest of the inhabitants of wh are a vast number of alts of 0,0 corps + random scrubs of course that the pvp alliances spends vast time and resources in constantly removing. A failed fight as those corps do not put assets in wormhole space beyond the capitals they log off in after running sites anyways.

The wormhole stabilizer would help in killing off the proper pvp alliances who can't withstand the capital fleets of any single of the 0,0 alliances that are vastly larger while it wouldn't do anything to remove the rest who just log off for 2 weeks and then start up again.

As to my personal opinion I think local in highsec should be something alliances has to pay to be able to get but then it would work both ways. Very expensive to maintain perhaps even running on moon minerals like technetium =) so limited to a few systems only.

Only more tedius gameplay can save EVE.

captcha for mining and ratting?

Remove the crutch.

Anyone saying they want local removed because it will promote so much more PVP have either absolutely no idea how it'll actually impact the players, or they've gotten kicked out of nullsec and just want to hurt them back.

So are you afraid of being hurt?

So are you afraid of being hurt?

Or perhaps they want all of nullsec and have become the establishment.

Remove the crutch.

I love how you keep repeating the same rhetoric. Do you have a reason for believing that removing local is a good idea?