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Johnny Twelvebore
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.12.02 10:55:00 -
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Adding the name of yet another low sec resident to this list, lowsec really gets the short straw most of the time as we don't have have the high profile of null or high.
These things are gold, you should put more in rather than take them away.. |
Fulgin Jet
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2012.12.02 11:30:00 -
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by all means remove them from hi-sec if they are causing issues, but they are a great sources of frigate PvP in low-sec.
Don't remove these complexes form low-sec, please. |
Melissa Forethought
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 11:31:00 -
[63] - Quote
I also support the demand to keep these complexes in low-sec. |
Tung Yoggi
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.12.02 11:42:00 -
[64] - Quote
Supported.
I'll have almost no reason to cruise lowsec with a frigate after this change.
They bring activity , fights, isk in remote systems, lowsec islands, non FW systems etc.
FW should not be the only way to frigate pvp and 'arenas' with restricted ship classes.
Of course, there are some systems where chilling in top belt is a good way to duke it out, but seriously, how many ?
Rewarding the explorator is cool, but why remove a popular pvp option at the same time ? |
Jean Kane
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.12.02 12:30:00 -
[65] - Quote
I support this demand.
Don't remove low plexes ! |
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.12.02 13:04:00 -
[66] - Quote
Would CCP please grace us with an answer to this question: why would you decide to do this without releasing it in a devblog? Because this is actually quite a big deal. |
Jon Marburg
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2012.12.02 13:28:00 -
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CCP why must you ruin good things? Leave low-sec static plexs alone. They are excellent focal points for the occasional frigate brawl and one of the few places you can expect to meet frigates aside from stations and gates. |
CraftyCroc
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.12.02 13:59:00 -
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Supported - not sure who did this change but maybe they should play the game a bit more |
Arianne Stone
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2012.12.02 14:20:00 -
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Supported. The plexes are so important to low sec small ship pvp. CCP seems to be doing little to support non-FW low sec dwellers, hopefully they'll realise that this is a bad idea and not make things worse. |
Angelus Ryan
Ama Nesciri.
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Posted - 2012.12.02 14:30:00 -
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Ouch.
Jesus.
CCP, you really want to nuke one of the last places for solo and very small scale, fun and inexpensive PvP in EVE, and turn it into another type of exploration PvE? Really?
Move all highsec static plexes to lowsec, creating more spots for frigate-sized PvP in lowsec and increasing the number of people who would like to visit otherwise empty systems. It will also solve all of your farming troubles (the highsec static plexes suck, totally).
Don't do this. Just. Please. Don't. |
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Hitego Luna
Minmatar United Freedom Front
The 11th Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.02 14:36:00 -
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CCP should NOT move DED 1 and 2 sites to the exploration system. There are not enough "sight seeing" land marks to draw people into lowsec and nullsec as-is. Why remove a motivator to get players to enter PVP zones?
Sure this makes flying new buffed scan frigates relatively more valuable, but you are then degrading the fun factor of ALL frigates that noobs, and even year old or older pilots like myself fly to these zones.
This game is lacking in small but meaningful pvp encounters. Lots of players enjoy these spots given that they are accessible in any frigate for small risk, pvp, as well as the chance for a small reward. If the motivation is to prevent farming: the key here is the material reward is small, but since it is often a random deadspace item it feels unique.
There are FAR larger sources of bounties and items that provide FAR less interesting interaction than the on-map DED locations.
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Logan Fyreite
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.12.02 14:46:00 -
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Please leave the plexes in lowsec alone. If this change is to address a problem in HIGHSEC, make the change to HIGHSEC and not just another universal blanket change made without thought our regard for the way it will and could detrimentally change other parts of the game. Specifically lowsec. It can't be that difficult to leave the ones in lowsec alone while still changing the ones in highsec.
CCP please, take note here and make this change, saving an important and vibrant part of lowsec. |
Lijja Cuu
Dred Nots
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 14:53:00 -
[73] - Quote
CCP
Do not change this system. The systems containing static plexes are the beating heart of pvp in lowsec.
Don't derp this up!!! |
Eruthian Hawk
Smutjes Revenge
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 15:03:00 -
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Reason might be the highsec afk farmers. Then delete the sites in highsec I`m okay with that. But keep them in lowsec.
Evil Piwats will take care of the farmers 
And while there are no Afk lol farmers in the last pocket, the rest can have fun in frigatte massacres at the site entry. Don`t derp this sites out of lowsec! |
Tomba
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2012.12.02 15:31:00 -
[75] - Quote
Supported.
Leave the low sec sites as they are. (And add many more of them!)
24 7 fights and fun at some of these sites and if for any reason no one's there, then you have a chance for a small reward if you run it....why patch fun and fights out of the game?
Add new content - don't remove working content!
if this is about camping - then fix the camping. You don't amputate someone's head cos they got lice... you get rid of the lice.
-Tomba |
Cassius Clayy
Dred Nots
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 16:20:00 -
[76] - Quote
+1
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Ava Starfire
Gradient
Electus Matari
460
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Posted - 2012.12.02 17:02:00 -
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CCP, you there?
Want to throw us a bone here?
The frigate community in EVE (read-everyone in this thread) has a solid grasp of what is and is not good for us. Seriously, you introduce the alt-farmer-dream that is the new FW plex system, and then want to remove static plexes? Why?
Some idea of what problem/issue this is supposed to resolve/fix would be appreciated.
Thanks, Ava |
Dilium
Diltech
1
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Posted - 2012.12.02 18:51:00 -
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Making them pure pve is just wrong, find another way to prevent farming that doesnt hurt their role as pvp hotspot.
I do see the problem with people farming them, sitting cloaked in last room waiting for overseer to spawn, but putting them under exploration system would be bad for pvp. |
panterus29
Blame The Bunny
The Dark Nation
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:00:00 -
[79] - Quote
i support this product/idea and/or its affiliated products/ideas <--happy |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
3408
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:07:00 -
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OP Supported. I'm sorry you haven't heard from the CSM sooner on this, but frankly I was blindsided by this change just as you were, the first I knew of this was the patchnotes.
To explain how I feel about this situation - let me first tell you a story. Before we joined Late Night Alliance, Autocannons Anonymous had been living in the Gulmorogod constellation, with our base at the TLF station in Lulm. Our friends in Late Night fleets always like to crack jokes about us living there of all places (and away from the front lines between Kourmonen and Kamela), but what they overlooked was the value of the Angel Creo-Corp Mining site, not only in terms of farmable loot but in terms of the fights we could farm as well. (Though I still curse myself for literally recycling all those faction remote reps for minerals over the time we lived there now that we have logi frigates!).
Much like FW complexes, static DED sites are tremendous havens for small gang and solo PvP, and entire cultures spring up around them - from rivalries between ace pilots who live there permanently, to roaming gangs that follow regular routes visiting these sites, to corps like mine that relocated based on the existence of one of these in a convenient location. They are a valuable part of the low-sec "terrain", and much as eliminating agent quality killed what may seem like arbitrary variety, EVE's space is essentially drifting towards being more and more homogenous and having fewer and fewer chokepoints for conflict and piracy.
I couldn't begin to tell you why this decision was made, because CCP didn't discuss it with the CSM. That's not to say it can't be reversed, but obviously its not going to happen before Dec. 4. Needless to say I have as many questions as you do and luckily I have the opportunity to do so face-to-face a week from now in Iceland. I'll do my best to get to the bottom of this, thank you for your patience in the meantime.
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Rixx Javix
The Tuskers
260
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:14:00 -
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Supported.
This change makes no sense and hurts the quality of an already struggling low-sec environment.
This is making me angry and you wouldn't like me when I'm angry!
http://eveoganda.blogspot.com |
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
2089
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:30:00 -
[82] - Quote
Cripes, CCP, this is dumb. Yet another thing to ~discuss~ at the summit.  
CSM 7 Chairman
My Blog - Where I say stuff
Follow Seleene on Twitter! |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
3408
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:30:00 -
[83] - Quote
Rixx Javix wrote:Supported. This change makes no sense and hurts the quality of an already struggling low-sec environment. This is making me angry and you wouldn't like me when I'm angry!
....Photoshop will be wielded for GRET JUSTISS FOR ALL TEIM
BRING BACK THE KILLS!!
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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The Protato
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
97
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:48:00 -
[84] - Quote
IB4 Awarmingcoat's spluttering, red-faced arrival. |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
814
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:49:00 -
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I can see why CCP would want all the DED on the same page and would want to put more content into exploration. There was a similar consequence when the 0.0 static complexes went away into exploration.
But it is a kick in the pants of lowsec, especially to small ship PVP. That I don't like one bit.
"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á
-Arydanika, Voices from the Void
CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet
Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Korvus Falek
Suicides-R-Us
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:52:00 -
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+1
I like 2/10s. |
Angron Vail
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
4
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:56:00 -
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ok then, taking away the plexes seems to be inevitable, so now in my boredom 10 miners will die everyday till this is fixed. |
The Protato
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
97
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Posted - 2012.12.02 20:58:00 -
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Angron Vail wrote:ok then, taking away the plexes seems to be inevitable, so now in my boredom 10 miners will die everyday till this is fixed.
Oh no, not the miners... Heaven forbid the miners get hurt... |
Jeanne Hurt
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 21:03:00 -
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Lets move astroidbelts and stations into exploration content aswell, i hear players make isk in there to.
And ignore all those pirates whining about their center of existence beeing removed. They have no lobby anyway.
*pro nonstatic everything.* |
Angron Vail
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
4
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Posted - 2012.12.02 21:05:00 -
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The Protato wrote:Angron Vail wrote:ok then, taking away the plexes seems to be inevitable, so now in my boredom 10 miners will die everyday till this is fixed. Oh no, not the miners... Heaven forbid the miners get hurt...
But when carebears cry stuff changes.
But seriuosly, We should do something spectacular to say good bye to our beloved plex's |
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