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Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:05:00 -
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It should be noted that the Eve player has a habit of taking a situation and using it in ways unexpected by its original implementation.
The use of static DED complexes in low sec as points to for small gang fighting are such a thing. Entire communities have built up around these areas due to their resources. The communities may not be as large as others in the game but they are there, they are rather static in a transient part of the game and they are tightly knit with history and events.
Replacement with Faction Warfare complexes are not the answer. Something similar was static DED complexes. These are not complexes where anyone is making billions of ISK. Due to the nature of low security space and the habitual occupation of any system containing a static complex camping of these sites is stopped by the local residents. Such an action is something that CCP seems to want to happen.
As it has been pointed out, ISK generation does come from these sites. Nothing insane or crazy. To do the site is to take on the risk of the locals coming looking for action.
So we had both income and PvP in low security space. They also stand for being very entry level PvP due to the restricted nature of the gates. Residents of low sec love frigates as much as any other group. However, we have had to take a more adaptable solution to satiate our thirst for small ship fights. Instead of petitioning CCP to... I don't know... change everything in the game to suit us we instead learned to be flexible and work with the resources that had been given to us.
Sadly, that resource is being taken away.
We are often not as vocal a community as we need to be. Our numbers are small and our social structure fiercely independent. The side effect of that is our opinion is often known among ourselves but not outside of our little community. In this I can only hope that the actual residents of low security space are heard in this matter.
Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate. |
Crevo Helion
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari
0
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:24:00 -
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I support keeping them as they are. |
Adele Godel
The Spawning Pool
Team Liquid
11
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:28:00 -
[33] - Quote
Crevo Helion wrote:I support keeping them as they are.
Pirates and anti-pirates agreeing on something.
Obviously its a good idea. |
Swifty Blowback
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.01 19:31:00 -
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By all means remove them from high sec as they're just camped 23/7. But please leave them as they are in low sec. They're a great source of cheap 1v1 pvp.
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Alex Medvedov
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.12.01 22:21:00 -
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I support keeping them as they are - those plexes are one of not many things which are supporting solo/small gang PVP in lowsec! |
Arasul
Gunpoint Diplomacy
2
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Posted - 2012.12.01 22:36:00 -
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Supported.
Whoever thought up this stupid idea has obviously never experienced or investigated or even asked anyone about the thing they planned to change.
Please leave the plexes alone. |
Ava Starfire
Gradient
Electus Matari
458
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Posted - 2012.12.01 22:51:00 -
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I support keeping them as is.
They are a great place to find frigate scale PVP, and make certain systems hotbeds of fun. It isnt like they crank isk into the system, and it isnt like anything found in them is that valuable.
Want to stop farmers? Make the plex kickout 5 minutes after it is cleared. Problem solved.
CCP seems to be waging war on frigate combat; why you guys hate us so much? |
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.12.01 22:55:00 -
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I have built my entire EVE Piracy career centred around a 2/10 in lowsec, five years of some of the most fun and rewarding PvP in this sandbox game of yours.
Traps, counter traps, log ons & log offskis, mass brawls and epic 1v1s.
Russian ISK farmers, Chinese ISK farmers, PvPers, Pirates, newbies, lowbies, nullsec warriors, carebears and everything in between have come to them to seek their fortune, in these bastions of small ship PvP.
As has been said, entire communities have sprung up, using the sandbox tools you gave us to make our universe rock... And now you want to take it away?
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defins
BuBu Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.12.01 22:57:00 -
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eve started with small gangs and 1vs1 pvp.. these low secs plexes are the reminders of those days, let them be ! |
M4iden
Bigger than Jesus
0
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Posted - 2012.12.01 22:58:00 -
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seriously! dont touch them! why would you want to ruin the fun and casual fun people can have there? for the mass? |
Ashnazg
Pins and Needles
76
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Posted - 2012.12.01 23:22:00 -
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Worst change that could happen to them. Leave them be!
Blog: White Knights and Manly Explosions |
Simvastatin Montelukast
Unh0ly Union
Mountain Sprouts
27
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Posted - 2012.12.01 23:24:00 -
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Seriously,
Everyday I see 1 v 1 pvp action in these. Don't change them!!
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3D Horrorshow
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
9
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Posted - 2012.12.01 23:25:00 -
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Supported.
These 2/10's are the base for a community built on small ship PvP.
Players have created something unique and fun here, so what if that wasn't the original intention, I thought that was the point of the sandbox. CCP couldn't have designed a better way to get frigs in the same place for a fight, why not take what the players have done and expand upon it. (heh, better idea, leave it be) |
Damikin
Nehalem Baconators
1
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Posted - 2012.12.01 23:26:00 -
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The 1/10 and 2/10 sites are what first got me into low sec, and then became the locations where i became decent at PvP. Please keep these static in low sec! The frigate fights are wonderful there! |
Xylorn Hasher
Sumiyoshi-Kai
52
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Posted - 2012.12.01 23:42:00 -
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CCP don't touch static plexes!!
Many people goes there just for fair frigate fights.
All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana-áconsumption. |
CainAU3
Cain's Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 00:03:00 -
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Removing statics in highsec is a good idea.
Removing statics in lowsec is a bad idea.
Please only remove them from highsec. |
Bodb Derg
Red Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.02 00:47:00 -
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Don't remove them. C'mon CCP ... do this for us. It's almost Christmas after all!! |
Meldorn Vaash
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.02 00:48:00 -
[48] - Quote
Agreed. Leave the damn things alone.
If you MUST make a change, pull the highsec ones and leave the lowsec ones in place. As several have said previously, they make nice PvP spots.
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ako ako
Sonoran Sun Legion
Legio Damnata
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 03:09:00 -
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Agree with OP and all others in this forum: leave the low-sec statics in place as these create a great place for small ship PVP and earning opportunites outside of FW in low-sec.
Silly silly idea to remove them! I was looking forward to using the new logi and ewar frigs in and around these plex's to introduce newer guys to those roles but now . . . . |
Icantspellwell
Muppet Factory
Northern Coalition.
5
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Posted - 2012.12.02 03:17:00 -
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Completely agree. Static 2/10's are one of the most competitive areas for some good frigate/destroyer pvp. DO NOT SCREW THIS GOOD SYSTEM UP CCP. |
Crazy Vania
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
15
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Posted - 2012.12.02 03:52:00 -
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CCP, with your tiericide, you are making all the tech 1 frigates awesome. By removing the Lvl1 and lvl2 DED complexes, you are removing the best playground these same frigates have to prove their worth and make their name.
Please don't do it :(
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Crazy Vania
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
15
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Posted - 2012.12.02 03:56:00 -
[52] - Quote
edit: double post. |
diazz69
F.I.S.C.O.
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 03:58:00 -
[53] - Quote
+1 |
Capt Starfox
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 04:18:00 -
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Please don't remove, destroy, obliterate, erase, delete, shut down, end, kill them don't!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Mane Frehm
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
27
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Posted - 2012.12.02 04:30:00 -
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I fully support the request to CCP to cease and desist. I have rarely used them, but I know many who do.
I'd also like to understand how it is that a change like this is showing up in the patch notes just a few days before the release. Where is the dev blog? Where was the consultation?
Paging the CSM....... |
Sylvous
Bigger than Jesus
23
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Posted - 2012.12.02 04:39:00 -
[56] - Quote
Mane Frehm wrote:I'd also like to understand how it is that a change like this is showing up in the patch notes just a few days before the release. Where is the dev blog? Where was the consultation?[/b]
Paging the CSM.......
Yeah, I did not see anything on this until the patch notes myself. |
Naoru Kozan
The Tuskers
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 07:00:00 -
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Please keep the static plexs in lowsec. They are a great source of income for newer players AND a great spot for small scale cheap pvp. |
Kooba Kaundur
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
3
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Posted - 2012.12.02 08:32:00 -
[58] - Quote
Don't change the static plexes in low, please! |
Naughty Cargo
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 09:07:00 -
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Oh please don't get rid of the plexes. Here I am a month and a half in about to get into an awesome corp and you're taking out one of the easiest and most convenient ways to get pvp fights? And how else are us pirates gonna get income as well? Its a stupid idea I tell ya. Please don't :( |
Benito Arias
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari
0
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Posted - 2012.12.02 09:42:00 -
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+1, surely static 1/10s and 2/10s in lowsec need not to be removed!
Creating obstacles to farming them would be cool. |
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