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Toterra
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.05 21:20:00 -
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Vincent R'lyeh wrote:Robinton Jax wrote:
I look at the Molden Heath numbers and dont care about these overall stats. Its been documented in this thread how small pvp kills have pretty much vanished in MH. Molden Heath was/is unigue....keep it that way.
I got 4 small pvp kills in under an hour in Heild on Sunday.............. Yes 4 1v1 kills Well actually 4 cyno ships....................... Because all MH is now is a staging area for Null-Sec
Wow, that is sure some quality PvP. I take back everything I said about the change, Fozzie is right!. Low-sec is great for popping cyno ships. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2013.02.07 12:38:00 -
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Vincent R'lyeh wrote:Robinton Jax wrote:
I look at the Molden Heath numbers and dont care about these overall stats. Its been documented in this thread how small pvp kills have pretty much vanished in MH. Molden Heath was/is unigue....keep it that way.
I got 4 small pvp kills in under an hour in Heild on Sunday.............. Yes 4 1v1 kills Well actually 4 cyno ships....................... Because all MH is now is a staging area for Null-Sec
I did some "small gang pvp" last night when 40 of us killed a PL dreadnaught then got blobbed by slowcats.
Thats solo frigate pvp, right? |
Vincent R'lyeh
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
131
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Posted - 2013.02.07 20:14:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:
I did some "small gang pvp" last night when 40 of us killed a PL dreadnaught then got blobbed by slowcats.
Thats solo frigate pvp, right?
This means its all your Fault Michael!
Now we know where Fozzies numbers are coming from!
CCP Fozzie wrote:
However if you look at all lowsec player deaths not involving a FW member, we've seen an increase of 68% since just before Retribution..
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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
144
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Posted - 2013.02.08 13:56:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
However if you look at all lowsec player deaths not involving a FW member, we've seen an increase of 68% since just before Retribution..
In other studies performed this month we have a journal report from Boston medical that says wine is bad for you...and another from Purdue university that says wine is good for you.
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Vincent R'lyeh
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
131
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:18:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:
However if you look at all lowsec player deaths not involving a FW member, we've seen an increase of 68% since just before Retribution..
In other studies performed this month we have a journal report from Boston medical that says wine is bad for you...and another from Purdue university that says wine is good for you.
Opens a bottle of wine in order to test this theory whilst bumping this thread for no particular reason anymore
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Robinton Jax
Minmatar Death Squad
Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.09 22:17:00 -
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This is all a CCP plot to make me go to Fan Fest. |
Angelus Ryan
Dred Nots
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Posted - 2013.02.10 09:06:00 -
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Robinton Jax wrote:This is all a CCP plot to make me go to Fan Fest.
To get the devs drunk enough so they would revert the change ? 
(I kid, I kid!)
Also, bump for Lowsec Justice! |
Iminent Penance
Interstellar Military Assistance Corporation
Black Core Alliance
11
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Posted - 2013.02.10 09:09:00 -
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but if they change, where will i log my frigate alts at downtime from now on every day? :( |
Robinton Jax
Minmatar Death Squad
Broken Chains Alliance
10
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Posted - 2013.02.11 04:41:00 -
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I could see my old house in Keflavik....and see if I could make a Dev pee themselves.. Managed it twice now....from fear and laughter. Wouldnt be shooting for laughter.
Thanks to the CP guys for the fights on the Teo gate btw.
....and bump |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
Out of Sight.
973
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Posted - 2013.02.11 17:52:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
I wasn't here in 2007 and would love to see what positive results came from removing the high tier plexes from LOW SEC. It damn sure didn't help stop farming plexes because they were mine just like the static. By the time anyone scanned our systems they either found nothing because we farmed it already, a trap or a bugged plex.
No positive results whatsoever. I've been playing since late 2005 and actively visiting low since mid 2006 and it has been steadily dying out since then.
All recent ideas of CCP are a joke, they fail to address the only question worth discussing: "what's the purpose of low-sec in the entire game economics and what content does it provide?"
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Zoe Panala
Blobcats
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:47:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
I wasn't here in 2007 and would love to see what positive results came from removing the high tier plexes from LOW SEC. It damn sure didn't help stop farming plexes because they were mine just like the static. By the time anyone scanned our systems they either found nothing because we farmed it already, a trap or a bugged plex.
No positive results whatsoever. I've been playing since late 2005 and actively visiting low since mid 2006 and it has been steadily dying out since then. All recent ideas of CCP are a joke, they fail to address the only question worth discussing: "what's the purpose of low-sec in the entire game economics and what content does it provide?"
Staging area for nullsec, obviously. All the "low sec pirates" should be happy about popping cyno frigs, and should not ask for more. The greedy bastards! |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
177
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Posted - 2013.02.12 00:07:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:
No positive results whatsoever. I've been playing since late 2005 and actively visiting low since mid 2006 and it has been steadily dying out since then.
All recent ideas of CCP are a joke, they fail to address the only question worth discussing: "what's the purpose of low-sec in the entire game economics and what content does it provide?"
The low sec 'steadily dying' statement is one I have to agree with. I still remember the old days back then when Hedaleofarber had over 100 carebears in it and half and istodard had 50 and 75 people. By people I mean the very carebear targets pirates and pvpers alike thrive on. This was back in the day of MH-Sec intel channel. It was glorious with multibillion isk ships running missions, hearing the call in MH-Sec of a few pirates, then flying out with that very multibillion isk ship to reclaim our space.
Pirates used to say that you know your a good pirate when you can go into Molden Heath, pop someone, and survive.
Those numbers all went downhill within a month or so when the initial probing changes first hit and ship scanning in mission rooms became much much easier. Afterall, scanning down a multiple bilion isk ship in less than 30 seconds in a mission that took 20 minutes and more to run is not only unprofitable for the mission runner, it is suicide. That one change killed Molden Heath population and it never regained those population levels. Ever.
You see, when you remove the ability to make isk in an area, you remove the reason for being there. When there is no reason to be in an area, there aren't going to be very many fights. It is going to be interesting to see if the number of kills in low sec stays high per CCP stats, or if they are currently high because of the changes to aggression mechanics/gate guns in low and will lower over time.
Anyways, thanks for answering CCP Fozzie, even though we obviously dont agree with the decision.
When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
H3R01N4
Gebeleizis Legion
ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.12 00:12:00 -
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Who cares about us?!
We are just simple clients , i dont think they give a f about our feelings and about how any of us like to play the game.
The message is clr imo: to many players in low sec loosing cheap frigs , go to 00 for pvp ,join the blobs and die in fire in 200 vs 200 fights (atleast)...2 rokhs (abaddon ,zealots,tengues, etc ) = 1 plex , 20 af's = 1 plex, 200 rifters = 1 plex . Maybe I'm paranoid but i cant lie about the way i feel.
We should get used with "inteligent" changes made by ccp anyway
Good luck and have fun killing cynoes u bad bad piwates
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
Out of Sight.
973
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Posted - 2013.02.12 01:11:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Fon Revedhort wrote:
No positive results whatsoever. I've been playing since late 2005 and actively visiting low since mid 2006 and it has been steadily dying out since then.
All recent ideas of CCP are a joke, they fail to address the only question worth discussing: "what's the purpose of low-sec in the entire game economics and what content does it provide?"
The low sec 'steadily dying' statement is one I have to agree with. I still remember the old days...
Oh, don't get me started :) When a single dead-end system had a standard local of 20+ and its own security channel where mission runners teamed up against any hostile action, it kinda speaks for itself. I really miss all the trill of 'can I break that golem's tank before his backup arrives?', nowadays it's more of 'lol, what a noob would bring a marauder to run missions in low-sec?'.
It's really sad to see low-sec having degenerated into a crappy FW of endless blobbing frigs and tech1 cruisers.
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KiithSoban
Spiritus Draconis
Sicarius Draconis
11
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Posted - 2013.02.12 15:15:00 -
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This needs a bump. I support small static plexes in lowsec with ship type restrictions as in militia space. They are a beautiful mechanic that opens up pvp for the young player. |
Robinton Jax
Minmatar Death Squad
Broken Chains Alliance
10
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:49:00 -
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I learn something new everytime Olley posts... |
Sylvous
Bigger than Jesus
105
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:51:00 -
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Robinton Jax wrote:I learn something new everytime Olley posts...
With you on that one. I knew that CCP had made low sec less inhabited, but I never realized to what degree. I personally felt that this change was huge as I now see about 10% of the activity in the systems I used to frequent. But I can hardly imagine systems in low sec with THAT many people, that would be fantastic. |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
182
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:37:00 -
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Sylvous wrote:Robinton Jax wrote:I learn something new everytime Olley posts... With you on that one. I knew that CCP had made low sec less inhabited, but I never realized to what degree. I personally felt that this change was huge as I now see about 10% of the activity in the systems I used to frequent. But I can hardly imagine systems in low sec with THAT many people, that would be fantastic.
We had a working, well stocked, low sec market as well. Still remember the chatter in MH-Sec when a ganker would buy something in Hedaleofarber from one of the industrial corps. The indi corp would then let MH-Sec channel know "so-and-so just bought a thorax with web and scram" and we would wait for him to jump on someone in the belts and/or try to bait the person in the belts.
Sneaky little industrial anti-pies. 
When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
Robinton Jax
Minmatar Death Squad
Broken Chains Alliance
12
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Posted - 2013.02.14 10:34:00 -
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Did my first months running 1,2 and 3's in Heild and Isotard because I didnt know better. Always somone trying to scan ya down. Made me propper EvE paranoid fast......now, just alliances hanging out afk waiting to go back to null.
Maybe if there was something to do....like 2/10's? people would not be afk and undock.
I know....daft idea. |
Tavisturus
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
11
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Posted - 2013.02.15 04:43:00 -
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I'm going to go ahead and bump this because I don't want this thread to die.
Also, I need something to read while I poop.
Keep the replies coming.
Also, bring back the static plexes.
Edit: spelling |
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Robinton Jax
Minmatar Death Squad
Broken Chains Alliance
12
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:31:00 -
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Spent my night in FW space again....not happy. Like spending a weekend away from home. |
Miss Carry
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
7
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:09:00 -
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Hi, my name is Carry!
I used to live in Molden Heath,
when can I come home? |
Robinton Jax
Minmatar Death Squad
Broken Chains Alliance
12
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Posted - 2013.02.16 10:48:00 -
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Flew threw Taff area lastnight and saw a bunch of MH regulars afk....was not happy. (yet I was flying thru there myself).
....welll CCP made me get on Forums....now Twitter cause thats all they check? |
Tavisturus
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
11
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Posted - 2013.02.16 19:24:00 -
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Bump  |
Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew
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Posted - 2013.02.17 12:44:00 -
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So far PL is not hot dropping solo frigs R1fta only solo cruisers and up. You can come home. Naughty got blapped in a thrasher by a 36 man Razor gang no blobs here.
Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate. |
Vincent R'lyeh
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
133
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Posted - 2013.02.17 13:11:00 -
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Sugar Kyle wrote:So far PL is not hot dropping solo frigs R1fta only solo cruisers and up. You can come home. Naughty got blapped in a thrasher by a 36 man Razor gang no blobs here.
yes Molden Heath Infamous Staging Area for Null-Sec fleet operations.
Come for the ambience.........briefly
Then get podded home by a hot-dropped blob!
It sounds much more exciting than the area being a mere dull hangout of piracy and small gang pvp doesn't it.....
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Miss Carry
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
7
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Posted - 2013.02.19 10:58:00 -
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I'm a grumpy hobo-pirate |
Toterra
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
61
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:37:00 -
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The longer we go without a resolution from CCP on this issue, the more and more I think that CCP does not understand their sandbox. If it really is that they saw these plexes as taking away from the game..... I have to ask what they consider good gameplay. More than anything these plexes represent emergent gameplay. CCP used what is essentially the same mechanic to create faction warfare. Not surprisingly faction warfare comes across more like scripted content in comparison to these plexes. |
Miss Carry
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
7
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Posted - 2013.02.20 22:30:00 -
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Toterra wrote:The longer we go without a resolution from CCP on this issue, the more and more I think that CCP does not understand their sandbox. If it really is that they saw these plexes as taking away from the game..... I have to ask what they consider good gameplay. More than anything these plexes represent emergent gameplay. CCP used what is essentially the same mechanic to create faction warfare. Not surprisingly faction warfare comes across more like scripted content in comparison to these plexes.
it's like they pulled the rug under our feet. maybe they should make the rifter a mining frig,
just to make sure we get the point that we're no longer welcome to the party. |
Sylvous
Bigger than Jesus
105
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Posted - 2013.02.22 08:42:00 -
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Toterra wrote:The longer we go without a resolution from CCP on this issue, the more and more I think that CCP does not understand their sandbox. If it really is that they saw these plexes as taking away from the game..... I have to ask what they consider good gameplay. More than anything these plexes represent emergent gameplay. CCP used what is essentially the same mechanic to create faction warfare. Not surprisingly faction warfare comes across more like scripted content in comparison to these plexes.
This is very well put/observed. Maybe CCP is trying to shepherd the gameplay styles into a select number of groups. As it has been said many times, these complexes promoted emergent gameplay in lowsec. I cannot call FW emergent in the slightest as it was designed to that particular end, and to those who like that style of play it is very successful. But taking away a vibrant focal point of the game from an area that was all ready lacking in content does not seem like the kind of move that a company like CCP would encourage.
I still after 3 months (almost 4) do not understand the benefit that myself and the other dwellers of low sec have received from the removal of these complexes. I know that my gameplay has become considerably less exciting, so if that was the end goal, congrats CCP (slow clap).
What I would like to see, or to have really is have Fozzie or another dev give in full detail how myself (generic lowsec dweller) should be enjoying the benefits that have abounded from this supposedly positive change. Clearly I am missing something because I have seen no benefit at all.
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