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Wigster Atild
wot-ever
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:00:00 -
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Hmm my appologies Dev Punkturis it was wrong of me to add a patch to the game so close to your 5 day weekend... very thoughtless what with the fact I uploaded the patch knowing full well drones were screwed up as has been shown from dev quotes.. and as for replys on the ethics of the bounty office there have been zero replys - upto and including this post im quoting. answering an question with a question is not answering the question any 8 year old junior school kid should know this so quoting CCP Soundwaves retorical question/answer does not really cut the grain... instead of making snippy troll remarks - that for players is rule breaking - how about you do answer the damned questions of ethics and the fact the bounty office now breaks your own worthless (when dev's ignore them) terms...
CCP Punkturis wrote:Wigster Atild wrote:Cayle Deteis wrote:Can you explain the new Bounty system logic? Everyone putting bounty to anyone. wtf logic is that? I thought bounties are consequence of illegal actions, instead I found myself with a bounty on my head as many-many other ppl. Issue is not the prize but why is allowed. I think there is a need of fixing that. Security status and crime actions must be connected with this. Not an open bounty system.....It's crazy Its been days since a Dev bothered to even give the company bull-crap let alone bothered to listen to or reply to its paying community.. Petitions regarding the bounty office have been completely ignored too.. CCP REMOVE YOUR COLLECTIVE HEADS FROM YOUR ASS'S AND TALK TO YOU COMMUNITY.. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO LIKE THIS NEW BOUNTY OFFICE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE DISRUPTIVE TO OTHER PLAYERS... GO FIGURE WHY THAT MIGHT BE..... you were posting over the weekend, that might be why you haven't gotten reply but also because your concerns and similar have been replied to a multiple times (did you read all the pages in this thread? because I did and I've been replying many times) but here is the reply from Lead Game Designer CCP Soundwave CCP Soundwave wrote: How are you defining who is innocent? Is an alliance leader that's never fired a shot but orders thousands of players to go out and kill others innocent? How about the industrialist that builds guns? The definition of innocence is one that I don't want to tie to a single mechanic. You people decide who you think are innocent and who you think are not.
btw if you type louder, maybe people will hear you over the weekend 
And lets get to the crock of it shall we... you devs spend months putting together these updates and when players moan you inflate the ego... im pissed with just one thing you have done on codes of ethics and on a moral basis.. just answer the damned questions already then you can go back to stroking your ego..
FOR YOUR EGO'S I LOVE THE REST OF THE UPDATE EVEN THE RED FLYING PIZZAS :) |

Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
258
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:01:00 -
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Flagging alarms at the frequency of a dental drill have to go. Seriously annoying. |

Wigster Atild
wot-ever
31
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:17:00 -
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As i thought....not one real reply from a Dev and monday is a normal work day.. prity sure its not a bank holiday too... maybe tomorrow the weekend hangovers will have subsided enough to do some work...
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Mak YuTsai
Shilo Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:30:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:There must be about 5 threads floating around in which a number of people have voiced their frustration with the removal of the jukebox.I dont know how these things work in eve forums but is there any official thread are sticky were people can be directed to if they want to petition for the return of the jukebox ?
They completely removed a major feature from the game that a number of people enjoyed and i have yet to see one developer give a Good and valid reason for it. They seem to be avoiding the subject in hope that we will just fade away.We pay a lot of money to play this game i for one expected better customer service than this There is an official thread and it's the feedback thread where they announced the planned removal. How this works in EVE, is that they announce their plans in advance and players can give feedback in advance. Said feedback will be taken in to consideration, but your needs and wants aren't guaranteed and can be ignored by overriding reasons. Having forum tantrums about it after the fact tends to be useless especially if you don't have solid argument behind you, unless you can muster a huge amount of players behind it. The reasons for it's removal were stated in the devblog. Basicly it was seen as somewhat redundant with the current abundance of media players and streaming options available and an obstacle to developing the new music system. EVE is a grand old project. Features come and are removed from time to time to keep things manageable in scope. Every feature requires constant maintenance work. This means, that from time to time the less popular or unnecessary ones are culled and the freed up time directed to new features. It's not done to anger the players who liked those features, but to direct the available resources in a way, that brings the most benefit to the game. So it's ok then? As paying customers, we failed to spend our free time reading and interpreting devblogs and therefore it's our fault if we are dissatisfied with the additions, changes to, and removal of content resulting from 'Retribution'.
In order to actually participate, we are required to spend our free time -not to mention our storage- installing and spending time on Test Server and reading all devblogs. This feedback thread we are invited to participate in serves no purpose, because the only meaningful feedback is provided pre-patch?
Sorry if I'm being antagonistic.
You are simply, and very clearly, summing up the situation and that's useful for folks coming here to find 60+ pages of feedback; much of it calling repeatedly for well reasoned changes to the new content.
Your summary does sound a bit fatalistic; there is no hope; the deed is done. Your explanation for why Jukebox was removed sounds a bit like a justification. We all understand that change is desirable and sometimes necessary. What many paying clients of CCP are calling for is not justification, but restoration of well liked functionality.
If change to the legacy Jukebox code was required, implementation of a similar feature could have been part of the plan. Feedback from this thread suggests that would have been a welcome thing within the community.
An old rule of thumb standard within customer service training for several industries is that 'a complaint given by one individual about a product or service is most often representative of the same complaint withheld by many'; and so the value of feedback. |

skyppye
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:35:00 -
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o/ well, i like the new UI and graphics etc the gate jump sound is a bit lame tbh... plus that tzz when u open a wreck, loot a wreck etc is starting to get on my nerves
however, im a dedicated caldari pilot...now drake is lame for pvp, missiles are useless, tengu is inferior to other t3...i just got bumped back a few good months of training...so not really happy there and about the new rat AI...yes they aggro drones, or logistics coming in to help you in a site, or a noctis wanting to salvage when u have 2 bs left... and it might be just me but the same sites and rats feel harder to kill its ok if you run lvl4 missions in a team but solo ratting seems to be on the verge of being banned? so as far as im concerned, veto for the new rats, liked them better before the tactic of one taking the damage and team mates doing dps is out the window....that presents problems especially in lvl5s and 8/10s etc...need a new fit to keep corpies/alts alive -> loose some dps -> less isk/hour -> unhappy bunny or yeah, get a carrier and just site there like a pos.. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2232
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:17:00 -
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Yonis Kador wrote:As someone who works a lot of hours per week, I don't have much time to play EvE these days. I pay my subscription in dollars just for the privilege of EvE being here when I do have time. On the one or two days per week I can log in for an hour or two, it's nice to be able to run missions solo or to scan down anomolies and do a little exploration. I've built my own little empire and I enjoy maintaining it. I don't have time for much else. Even solo, it's a big, beautiful universe I enjoy being a part of.
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But there are some stations I actually "enjoy" visiting simply because on undock, the view is stellar. (Nayheen VI comes to mind, when you rotate the planet behind your ship. Just gorgeous. There are others.) So many stations are in the middle of nowhere particular, just dark and alone, and there's considerable room to spruce up these vistas imo. Or at the very least, the hubs should be a sight to behold beyond the number of ships hovering at the entrance bountying each other. Jita IV CNAP would maybe look great at the forefront of a massive aqua nebula.
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Yonis Kador
I liked your message but I just have to also quote the part that seems impossible to explain to the current generation of gamers. Playing EvE just because... it's an universe where to cut a little corner to detach from the daily routine, the daily fatigues.
All those who can recognize these names: "James Clark, Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury, Nigel Kneale (omitting many others)" are born for EvE, EvE is their thing.
EvE is also logging in wearing 3D googles, undocking in one of those systems where you have close planets / moons and station and stare at the resulting scenery plus your ship for 30 minutes, your mind taking off and transporting you in distant worlds.
EvE is so much, so beyond the mere "ISK inflation", "suicide gank lawl".
How to convey these things, these feelings, these memories to those who only see EvE for the trolling, the e-peen, the docking games and point at you like YOU are playing the WRONG game. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2232
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:20:00 -
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Galmas wrote:Dograzor wrote:Dear CCP, Due to me having to switch off safety every single time when I log in I have already missed a few kills. Please let the client or server save my safety settings. The only safety I use when shooting stuff is my trigger finger, and I have been happy with that for years. Now I'm disappointed.  Seems to be quite a task to code that, otherwise i would have expected CCP to have it fixed by now. Certainly massively annoying... considering one might have more than one char 
Yeah it's as complex as at login execute the following single line:
if (current_system_sec < 0.45) disable_security();
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Arthur Bong
Blatant Recreational Esoteric Thunder
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:51:00 -
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Decided to play Retribution for about a week before providing feedback if at all. Really do not like the eve forums or better the way they are maintained inconsistently.
I do love the game however and appreciate the effort and lengths CCP goes to, to try and have a community that like to keep putting in content. The level of play is just awesome, which is just as much due to the community as it is to CCP and its developers.
I love retribution!
If there is a thing i do not understand, its the unscannable cargohold on my viator...
....."please watch as I warp away from the gate much more safely now my cargohold in unscanaable".... But this is not Retribution related.
Why do I love Retribution.....well, look at this thread.....
Look at many of those null bears hiding behind alts acting as a highsec resident stating they are now in much more danger... trying to manipulate the beleive system of potential followers, less informed people and or younger players.
This sentence alone (not retribution related perse) shows why i love this game and its depth.....but what is said in the sentence, I do enjoy those clearly null pilots hiding behing alts trying to alter the beleive system.
Good to see them "be scared" a bit more.....risk reward completely back in full....
Thats how I read many of those posts, not all. Some are from followers whome beleive systems have just been altered by entities they "look up" to or those they want themselves mirrored to.
There might be a few that just didnt inform themselves....*cough*..
I would like the pizza's to be sizeable and be able to positon the scrolling damage stats where I want them to be.....other than that, it enhances my gameplay. I think personally this is so much a matter of personal taste, one could never do right for everyone. Therefor I think such features should be higly customizable, it should be much more granular to the player and a player should be able imo completely set the UI one wants.....
As for the AI in missions.....I really really like it. Yes, first time out, I did loose all my drones, and also almost lost a 1,3 B CNR.... However, i finally felt something while doing a mission...
However, after adapting, revamp the fit, i did not loose any drones anymore and the mission became just as easy as before. So I am not able to place the complain about killed drones, it is rather easy to make sure your drones will not be popped. Its just about revising the way you run the mission.
I said just as easy, which is true for me anyway, but there is more to watch for and more diversity in what you need to do to complete the mission. So, it did become somewhat more "engaging" for a few runs.
I think it would be possible to make AI even better if the AI contained a years worth (for example) of "refined" "combat logs" or rather... has its own database with current combat tactics being employed against certain types of combat. By refreshing the database with fresh data continually and dropping everything beyond a certain age.
And I do mean this as:
Take a combat log between two players, analyse the counters and attacks. There is always a certain level of....if one does this, the other does that.... This changes over time as mechanics get adjusted.
By putting the common counters and attacks into records, AI could pick the right attack or counter for everything you do and actually evolves as the game does and or players....
All in all......I think Retribution is a really great step forward at many levels....
Thanks!! |

Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
139
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:04:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:.... undocking in one of those systems where you have close planets / moons and station and stare at the resulting scenery plus your ship for 30 minutes, your mind taking off and transporting you in distant worlds. Well, I don't have 3D-goggles, but I have been lost in EvE quite often a 'bit' longer then 30 minutes. Taking a trip to somewhere, just pick a gate and go through it. One system after another, looking at the ships against the backdrop of stars and nebulae. Not exactly playing the game, but letting my imagination and the scenery merge. Wonderful.
It can give me the same satisfaction as docking my ship with just enough HP to hold it together, spouting flames into empty space.
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:How to convey these things, these feelings, these memories to those who only see EvE for the trolling, the e-peen, the docking games and point at you like YOU are playing the WRONG game. There is no wrong way to play the game, just as there is no right way. If you make a choice out of the near endless possibilities the New Eden universe has to offer and are happy with that, then that's the right way to play. And no one should tell you otherwise.
I play this game the only right way there is. For me... Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Snoodaard Thrasy
Yulai Guard Fleet Yards Yulai Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.12.10 23:23:00 -
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So it's been a week, and no word on the "tracking disruption issue" other than that "we're looking at it".
What I'd like to know: does CCP intend to fix the permadisruption from rats, or should I start training for missiles and ditch all my turret based pve boats?
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Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2012.12.10 23:53:00 -
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So Retribution ;
The UI changes are nice, the hangar icons which always stay on the neocom make me way happier for example. The changes to damages dealt / sent are also pretty nice, and with the new sound change makes farming a bit less boring, that's a good surprise (I even turned the sound on on all my accounts ! after like 2 years !) Given I live on null, I don't have things to say about the security lock, and I don't have to change it at all, same as crimewatch. Concerning ships balancing and the new ships, this seems to be a good work done, i'm not a fit guru at all, so won't say more. However I feel the need for the tech2 fregate/cruiser/destro to be looked at quickly, as some things feel pretty strange now with the tech1 ships being way better. tldr : so lots of good things, that very nice, but some bigger thing (POS, industry/UI, nullsec sov) for next time become more needed. Obviously don't stop the iteration and little UI changes. |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
502
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:16:00 -
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Wigster Atild wrote:As i thought....not one real reply from a Dev and monday is a normal work day.. prity sure its not a bank holiday too... maybe tomorrow the weekend hangovers will have subsided enough to do some work...
Are you still here banging on about the bounty system? FFS get either unsub or get on with your life.
It's a non issue. The bounty system needed fixing and this is as good a fix than i could think of. CCP are not about to completely undo all the work they have put into this.
So what do you exactly do you want from CCP now? That they tell you something you don't want to hear just so you can ***** and moan more?! They see me trolling, they hating... |

Axium Cog
Genco Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:29:00 -
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Sigh... why is it everyone rages every time a patch comes out... people really do not like change do they. God forbid you have to adapt...
Now that i have that out of the way :P
I really like the changes so far.
Tiericide so far seems to be doing exactly what it was intended to do which is great.
UI is awesome. I agree with an earlier post, i would like to see the damage notifications stream be player positionable. Ive always wanted this ability since i first signed up back in the day. Gets in the way of my pretty spaceship!
Love the bounty system. Great way for FC's to encourage fleet participation, and finally POS bashes can be a little less painful *cue choir of angels in chorus* :)
Not sure why people are complaining about the AI in missions. WH space has been dealing with those drone popping bastards since day one and you dont hear them complaining. OH NO! NO MORE AFK MISSIONS!!! wah... god forbid you actually have to play the game...
Im not entirely sure what the solution is, but it seems that missiles are kinda getting shafted. I suspect the solution lies somewhere within the explosion radius mechanic, although im not entirely sure how as i dont use missiles all that often. My idea of missiles has always been that, yeah you can outrun them if your fast enough, they take time to hit, but they dont miss unless they run out of time and when they hit they should hit hard. I dont understand why everyone seems to think every ship in game should be able to be flown solo. imo missile boat fleets should just bring more tackles and ewar.
LOVE THE NEW DESTROYERS ZOMGPONIESANDCANDY!!! this ^^^
great job on them cant stress that enough. art team did an amazing job, love the influence of naval ships in the designs. love their role, great ships in every way shape and form of the phrase.
Ok so thats my 35 cents (gotta love inflation) |

Khaiton LaSalle
Ted's dead. Alcoholic.
6
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:33:00 -
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Okay, first I have not read all of the posts. Second, complaining is a legitimate form of feedback.
Changes to NPC rats and drone boats.
No, the drones do not take more than their fair share of the aggro. Yes, you need to control the aggro and take out the NPC's that pose the most danger to your drones.
But, when the drones do take aggro they die very fast. So, one of three solutions in my little mind.
1) Have the drones take more damage before they go pop, so they have time to be recalled into the drone bay.
2) Accept the fact that drones will die a lot, but give drone boats much larger drone bays to hold all of the extras that will be needed. Heavies die fast because they are slower than mud flowing up hill in January. (Northern hemisphere)
3) Give drone boats a big speed boost so that they can be close to their drones and pull them in when needed. Not the best solution but I liked the idea of three solutions.
Just my depreciated two cents.  |

Dograzor
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
16
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:37:00 -
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And oh...
I want my jukebox back.  |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:47:00 -
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It's funny how capsuleers are being directed to this thread from the other forum sections so the "devs are sure to see it" here. Only Dev to post anything here in the past couple of days was Punkturis responding to people about devs not posting. Really is starting to look like the devs don't want feedback at all with their lack of response to some of the questions being asked. Kind of disheartening really. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2233
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Posted - 2012.12.11 01:01:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:It's funny how capsuleers are being directed to this thread from the other forum sections so the "devs are sure to see it" here. Only Dev to post anything here in the past couple of days was Punkturis responding to people about devs not posting. Really is starting to look like the devs don't want feedback at all with their lack of response to some of the questions being asked. Kind of disheartening really.
It's called "let them vent off for some weeks". It's a much used tactic in the industry when they want to tell you to HTFU in a kind way, but also by some housekeepers: "sweep dirt under the rug". Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Dograzor
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
16
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Posted - 2012.12.11 01:06:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:It's funny how capsuleers are being directed to this thread from the other forum sections so the "devs are sure to see it" here. Only Dev to post anything here in the past couple of days was Punkturis responding to people about devs not posting. Really is starting to look like the devs don't want feedback at all with their lack of response to some of the questions being asked. Kind of disheartening really. It's called "let them vent off for some weeks". It's a much used tactic in the industry when they want to tell you to HTFU in a kind way, but also by some housekeepers: "sweep dirt under the rug".
Last time they did that things turned real ugly... 
Lets hope they learned from that point. |

Damasa Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
34
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Posted - 2012.12.11 01:13:00 -
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Hardwick Johnson wrote:Edit: Discussion of moderation removed - please raise a petition if you wish to discussion actions taken by the moderation team. - ISD Suvetar
Don't worry, Hardwick, I've taken that action for you.
Petitioned. |

Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
369
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Posted - 2012.12.11 01:22:00 -
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Dograzor wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:It's funny how capsuleers are being directed to this thread from the other forum sections so the "devs are sure to see it" here. Only Dev to post anything here in the past couple of days was Punkturis responding to people about devs not posting. Really is starting to look like the devs don't want feedback at all with their lack of response to some of the questions being asked. Kind of disheartening really. It's called "let them vent off for some weeks". It's a much used tactic in the industry when they want to tell you to HTFU in a kind way, but also by some housekeepers: "sweep dirt under the rug". Last time they did that things turned real ugly...  Lets hope they learned from that point. Nope. CCP usually checks in on these feedback threads a week or two post-release and then lets their customers hanging with open defects and poorly designed functionality. Been that way for the past few years as CCP's game design has gone down the crapper.
+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark GÇ£SeleeneGÇ¥ Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith. |
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2236
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Posted - 2012.12.11 01:56:00 -
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Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:Nope. CCP usually checks in on these feedback threads a week or two post-release and then lets their customers hanging with open defects and poorly designed functionality. Been that way for the past few years as CCP's game design has gone down the crapper.
I don't know what exactly happened nor I recall any developer in particular (only Punkturis because she's so cool!) but my EvE experience had been precisely split in two:
1) One old phase when they produced LOADS of fun, new content including practical features (i.e. corp hangars for Orca) but those features often were half broken. Instead of fixing them "in the background", CCP just proceeded throwing a next patch with more fun and new content (some of it broken again). I'd say the apex has been Apochrypha.
2) A new phase when they started producing much less new and sometimes less fun content, lots of fixes but half of them are for stuff that worked or nobody felt it needed a fix. So it really looks like a waste of half a year. So we get new pizza aiming reticles nobody asked for (like in the past we got "fixed" inventory and before that we got a fixed overview) but the L4 missions are not adjusted to function with the improved NPCs AI. We get new lots of cool new drone boats and AI instapopping drones instead of posing proper challenges for every race.
It makes no sense, not for a player. If you dig enough and understand jargon like "refactoring" and similar then it may have a sense but not for a regular player who just want to see the game advance. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Serious Desire
Annoyance.
3
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Posted - 2012.12.11 02:27:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Galmas wrote:Dograzor wrote:Dear CCP, Due to me having to switch off safety every single time when I log in I have already missed a few kills. Please let the client or server save my safety settings. The only safety I use when shooting stuff is my trigger finger, and I have been happy with that for years. Now I'm disappointed.  Seems to be quite a task to code that, otherwise i would have expected CCP to have it fixed by now. Certainly massively annoying... considering one might have more than one char  Yeah it's as complex as at login execute the following single line: if (current_system_sec < 0.45) disable_security(); in Python.
Really wondering why any "new" change CCP dreams up can't be options by the player community. Most are pretty frick'n stupid. |

raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
5
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Posted - 2012.12.11 02:34:00 -
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Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:Dograzor wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:It's funny how capsuleers are being directed to this thread from the other forum sections so the "devs are sure to see it" here. Only Dev to post anything here in the past couple of days was Punkturis responding to people about devs not posting. Really is starting to look like the devs don't want feedback at all with their lack of response to some of the questions being asked. Kind of disheartening really. It's called "let them vent off for some weeks". It's a much used tactic in the industry when they want to tell you to HTFU in a kind way, but also by some housekeepers: "sweep dirt under the rug". Last time they did that things turned real ugly...  Lets hope they learned from that point. Nope. CCP usually checks in on these feedback threads a week or two post-release and then lets their customers hanging with open defects and poorly designed functionality. Been that way for the past few years as CCP's game design has gone down the crapper.
To be fair, most of this thread is people spamming the same problems, don't have to read much of it to know what people are complaining about. Not much real reason to read this as in what improvements. They already are releasing patches to improve some problems. The drone one easily seems a bigger one harder to fix. The rebutton pushing one seems easier, but who knows. |

Sven Viko VIkolander
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:26:00 -
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If I could make just one complaint about retribution, it is this: I've always played eve with some of the sound on--usually so I can hear my sweet missiles fire. But since retribution I've had to shut the sound off permanently, because of the freaking steel door that slams shut whenever the tinniest thing pops. In RVB frig swarms it is especially bad, like Odin himself is making steel popcorn. Please get rid of this awful explosion noise. |

Hardwick Johnson
Particle Men Industries Beyond-Repair
24
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:40:00 -
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Damasa Cloudwalker wrote:Hardwick Johnson wrote:Edit: Discussion of moderation removed - please raise a petition if you wish to discussion actions taken by the moderation team. - ISD Suvetar Don't worry, Hardwick. I've taken that action for you. Petition filed.
They're gonna have to edit down a few more by the time I'm done. I've yet to meet anyone else who can string together more 4 letter words questioning someone's parentage into a coherent sentence than I.... Doubt they'll really notice though. Spelling and grammar are clearly not within their higher skill sets.
Typical response from them. To paraphrase: "We hear you, we don't f*cking care what you have to say. Vent away and if your calling us out gets too close to home, we'll simply edit/remove your posts until everything in the forums conforms to our predetermined goals."
I logged in today. And to be perfectly honest, I wasn't even sure why I did. I had nothing to do. Mining produces random buzzing noises, the sound of someone dropping a pipe on a concrete floor, etc. Missions suck for at least another 3-6 months until I can cross-train into gunnery skills, but my account will expire long before that. PI doesn't take long to cycle, production is cooking. But honestly, aside from spinning my ship, there's nothing to do. Even scanning is a royal pain in the arse now since it's harder than hell to re-center ****. And the sounds... My God. I'd rather be locked in a room full of 8yr olds learning to play the clarinet than listen to half of them.
Faction warfare is dead. Sure, there's some epic battles to be had if you have a ship that's not missile dependent, but we all know how the Caldari/Gallente fight is going to end. The ninja patch 2 months early screwed that to hell and gone when they handed the frogs T4 zone control. FW is going to be a shadow of it's former glory, multiple major alliances have already left and more and more players are heading for the exits. There's just no isk to be had there anymore. Yeah, it needed a tweaking, but CCP severed the arm to take care of a hangnail.....
The good news is the wife's happy: I'm spending a whole hell of a lot less time on this game. Even after spending some extra time to play with my clan on the xbox regulating amateurs on BO:II |

Fumika Karusaka
Atomic Biohazard
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Posted - 2012.12.11 06:00:00 -
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I would like to state that I know nothing about all the changes except one....
My beloved Music Player is gone, now I read the post on why you removed it and all, however I would implore you to put it back, since it is the only thing to distract me while playing EVE (ie: mining).
It is not the ability to play music in-game that makes the jukebox a great idea it is the ability to on the fly maintain your playing songs without having to alt-tab out of EVE to do so.
I understand that it requires you to do more things to keep it going but personally I would be ok with you sacrificing that time to keep it in the game.
So once again I ask you to PLEEEEEASE bring back the music player.
Thank you Dante Evil is not just an alignment, it's a perspective |

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
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Posted - 2012.12.11 06:06:00 -
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Hardwick Johnson wrote:
Faction warfare is dead. Sure, there's some epic battles to be had if you have a ship that's not missile dependent, but we all know how the Caldari/Gallente fight is going to end. The ninja patch 2 months early screwed that to hell and gone when they handed the frogs T4 zone control. FW is going to be a shadow of it's former glory, multiple major alliances have already left and more and more players are heading for the exits. There's just no isk to be had there anymore. Yeah, it needed a tweaking, but CCP severed the arm to take care of a hangnail.....
No ISK? Poor baby. guess it'll have to be all about the fights.
That, or you could try and organize the squids yourself. Like we did back when Damarr and cronies held every. single. Gal/Cal FW system.
But isn't that what happens when power blocs organize to make ISK by swapping zone control....only until one side decides they want to own the space? |

Skullmonkey X
Sovereignty of United Nations
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Posted - 2012.12.11 06:32:00 -
[1288] - Quote
JUKEBOX, what has happened to my jukebox. I enjoyed the ability of having an in-game music player so now I have to run itunes in the background and mute Eve music to be able to listen to the epic space concertos I have. Bull I say, I'm not very happy with the removal of the jukebox, it was a great little feature in the game and why was it removed in the first place, apparently spaceships can't have media players installed??? |

Sister Lumi
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.12.11 07:05:00 -
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Lowsec is full of people flying the new ships, cruiser gangs are go <3
Good times, CCP, good times  |

Zevv Kal'Jael
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.11 07:54:00 -
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Well i am not complaining :) but CCP ask what we think about the new patch. So ... i tell em.
I HOPE this patch is the Start of a complete recalibration of weapons. If it is a start.. ok then we have to live with unusual things atm until its balanced. If this should be the End..... Holy Moly.
1 Missiles. Well.. Its ok to reduce HM range.. dmg isnt realy reduced in reality :) Less dmg against BS but more against small ships now. Is a good thing. Tengu and other HM ships where overpowered.
2 TD effects optimal and Fallof. Well... the Amount is MUCH to high. BS arent made to fly to 10km and shoot there.. most arent even fast enough to get there. Autocannons are now complete useless against sanshas and that is crap. ( Machriell 500m optimal 9km fallof after 3 TDs and i have max skills and 4 Modules ) its a joke guys.
3 UI the new target Pictures are much much to big. Realy and i would like to get the old one back as no one NEED this information about an NPC ship lol. You dont look at it you just target and klick...
4 JUkebox gone cause it needs to much Programming time to adapt it... LMAOROFLHAHAHAHA.. guys dont tread us like Mules.. its a bad joke lol.
5 I overall like the AI of Sleepers but you implemented it without adapting the missions... NOW I can fliy lvl 3 - 4 but no New player can without pl+¦pping alot.. stage agg even in lvl 3 missions.. what kind of new player with poor fittings can now make ll 3 and 4 missions ? Guys you made it much to hard for new players now to make isk in highsec with normal missions and you will see the result soon.
Well just my 2 cent
AH btw.. last patch yesterday broke a lot of stuff and fixed nearly non of what you wrote.. Looks like a Shot from the hip hehe |
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