The game has no mechanic for newer players to catch up to older players. That's just a fact. CCPs latest attempt to address this ('specialization' in the ship skills) involved them injecting 6 million new skill points into the game. Personally I think they couldn't see the wood for the trees when they came up with that plan. I think they need some radical alteration, like if you're using a skill then you accumulate SP faster in that skill (which actually gives you an incentive to play the game and feel that you're making 'progress').

The game has no mechanic for newer players to catch up to older players. That's just a fact.

I think they need some radical alteration, like if you're using a skill then you accumulate SP faster in that skill (which actually gives you an incentive to play the game and feel that you're making 'progress').

I was hoping this thread would finally drop off the first page and be forgotten.

Alas, it is not to be.

Page 36 incoming.

Am I speaking the wrong language?
This is a serious discussion sidetracked by trolls.

So all I am asking is what is being done about this huge problem EVE faces?
Who can I talk to about this to make it apparent?
This game is truly great but how does any new player have a chance at experiencing that greatness?

Three simple questions.
Zero answers... Will Hefty prevail in finding the answers on the broken internet!?
Find out on the next post. /commence epic outro!

It's like starting up any other MMO and saying you want to be kitted in the best stuff in a month.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Peter_Pacis

This pilot (the one you bought) may be two years old but he has only one year of training, i bought myself a much better pilot for a lot less isk. Also wanting to fly both Tengu and a faction BS with only 20mil SP (Mach requires cross training btw) is really ********.

Here is a character that I made last year during a power of two, with the intent to fly assault frigates. I naturally branched off for destroyers and battlecruisers when the changes were announced.

The character is close to a year old now but I think the result speak for itself.

That character is a very good example WHY the SP system in its current implementation is broken.

I'm pretty certain that you did not fly that character for the whole year and skilled whatever was necessary, else you could never have those SP/h.

Further evidenced by the fact that you skilled medium energy and hybrid to V and didn't touch T2 specs.

Making assumptions much? I bought a bunch of skills and within a week, I was in a rifter, doing small gang pewpew. :)

As for the lack of medium specializations, I believe it is wiser if I trained them first to V. I then inject the specialization skills, jump to large and train those to IV before finishing off the medium specialization skills.

Doesn't make too much sense, but this isn't the place to discuss that. :)

I admit, the logic might be a bit flawed because I am pretty much ignoring the DPS boost by not training them so I'll expand on my reasoning; I fly frigates ten times out of times and therefore training medium specializations is a bit daft at this point in time.

Lack of sp isn't a problem if you don't make it one, you have to specialise early and don't try to do everything, which is a trap a lot of people fall into.

I really don't see the way it is as a problem, everyone starts somewhere and they grow from it.

It emulates real life to an extent, you build experience at absolutely everything you do in life and you generally get better at it or can do more complex things later.

So, what you're saying is that, EVE is real?

I don't entirely understand the complaint of the OP. As a brand new player myself, the only negative to me lies in the sheer overwhelming number of options and skills available. It's practically dizzying. After a little research, though, things become clearer and I was able to start on the path(s) I wanted to try.

As far as I can tell, it will only take me a couple of months to get into everything I want to get into to be at least somewhat effective at what I'm currently doing. I have a couple of long term goals that will take a long time to get into, but the whole "2 years just to do anything fun" doesn't ring true for me at all, and I'm one of those new players the OP was supposedly speaking for.

But this thread is over 30 pages long. I don't have time to read all of it. If the topic has shifted and made this post entirely useless to the thread, forgive me.