They totally need advice from random people that do statistic over a 5 people sample. It's not like their game is successful, after all EVE is dying (2 friends told me that, so that's like 100% sure).

I think people say "Only the 5s count" for a reason.

I am somewhat impressed that you were able to answer some of the questions.

1-2 years of training would put you into a capital ship yes. Core skills? NO.
Now go ask some one that has a capital ship. They will say it's suicide.

Now I can see your angle but I nowhere near stated that I'm butthurt because I can't fly a Titan.
Half a million vs 100m that was funny... Really funny. There you are talking about some who knows the game in and out.
Probably an alt flying with the 500k SP. So the main account is the real player not the 500k SP.

Also this post is for NEW PLAYERS AND WHY MOST OF THEM QUIT SO EARLY.
Pirating in lowsec to minimise clone cost with low SP. That isn't even a sentence.
If you can't afford your clone cost you are doing something very wrong with all that "A pilot with half a million of the right SP and the knowledge and resources to leverage it properly is far better off than one with 100 million of the wrong SP, the wrong ship, the wrong situation...".

You look incredibly stupid right now.
I don't even really want to post this reply but you asked for it.

Well this is exactly your problem. You are to stubborn to figure out eve.

No, it goes beyond stubborn and lands firmly in the lap of lazy.

OP sounds like a former WoW player, or some other game where it's possible to level grind to max out in a month or two. He couldn't do that in Eve, so he bought a toon to bypass the level grind, and is still pissed that there is no instant gratification in Eve. There's no I WIN button. His former guild mates already said **** this ****, we're outta here...but since he laid down the cash, he has a vested interest in staying.

Pro tip: Sell the toon you bought and go play SWTOR. It's more your style.

Has anyone noticed the OP is long gone?

Well this is exactly your problem. You are to stubborn to figure out eve. I thought the same way you did for a very long time. I persisted and was eventually able to fly a battleship capable of soloing level 4 missions. However, I realized that wasn't exactly what I thought it would be. I then looked into the pvp aspect of the game, and found a home in faction warfare. I have made more money from pvp and had more fun than I could have ever imagined.

In short, a 2 month old character can excel in faction warfare and many other areas of the game. Find something on the game that you like or go play another one.

See this post isn't about me but the high rate of new players that quit.

This game is simply way too punishing for new players. Just to be slightly effective it takes about 1.5 years of training.
Then you have some of the basics and can still not do anything special.

can you provide any skill training plane with length of 1.5 years which is NEEDED to new player to even start?

Eve unfolds over time. I enjoyed its skill system when I first started. It meant every week I could fly new ships and use new modules. It was exciting as a new player to log on and try something new.

I started to PVP after a month or so.

You definitely don't need 1.5 years of skill training.

How long until you could play via ISK/PLEX and spend the majority of your time PvP-ing? You'd have to be a hugely successful pirate to achieve that after a month.

I'm with Malcanis on this one. There are issues around the skill system for new players, but PLEXing ones account shouldn't be listed as one of them.

Also i personally feel that a catch-up mechanism for newer players - in a game that heavily centered on PvP - should have been incorporated from the beginning. It's a lot harder to sell to the bitter vets now, which is probably the predominant reason that CCP is still not taking any serious steps in that direction.

This game is simply way too punishing for new players. Just to be slightly effective it takes about 1.5 years of training.
Then you have some of the basics and can still not do anything special.

Rank IV skills are only just less effective than rank Vs, yet take only 20% of the training time

A character with IVs can quite easily kill a character with all Vs if they fly right and/or have the right ship/fitting.
Also, there are only so many skills that apply to any one ship. great, you have 16million skill points in leadership. But you're solo so none of them do anything. Oh, you have 23.5million SP in drones? but you're flying a Merlin, so they don't do anything.

1. EVE has a learning CLIFF, not a learning curve. There is no way around this other than for people to join a newbie friendly corp and get some advice.
2. They see bigger ships as better ships. Someone needs to tell them that frigates can kill battleships, bigger is not better, it is just bigger.

3. IVs are good enough at the start. Vs are what you do when everything for the ship you're flying is at IV.
4. Friends is the best skill you can train. A couple of week-1 guys in frigates will kill a 7-year veteran in a pimped out pwnmobile if they know what they are doing.

These demands for 'catch up' are based on ignorance and a prevailing instant-gratification culture.

We don't want that in EVE. EVE is for patient people.

Stop trying to break my game because you don't have any patience.

Even on frigate level, rank V is the difference between flying a purifier or a sacrilege/vengeance. Or the difference between being locked out by a falcon or laughing about a blackbird (or even alpha-ing it).

What in the absolute **** are you on about, here?

The purifier is a bomber, the sacrilege is a HAC, and the vengeance is an assault frigate. All of them will require frigate 5 under the current pre-requisites, so, no, rank 5 is not the difference between any of those ships.

It's most likely one of the main reasons why a lot of people quit, though. Which is the theme of this threat.

What do you expect when people come to a game that is advertised as being playable via in-game earnings? Would you expect them to settle for paying a subscription until they found out enough about the game and earned enough SP (within their limited understanding) to pay via playing OR would you maybe expect them to move on to one of thousands of competitors out there?

You have 2 weeks - MAYBE 51 days if they are buddied - to convince them the game is so much better than the competition (something i'm not completely convinced of after about a year - I do like the game, mind, but i don't know all of the competitors) it's worth paying for OR help them realize ways to earn their ISK with a limited amount of SP.

It's most likely one of the main reasons why a lot of people quit, though. Which is the theme of this threat.

What do you expect when people come to a game that is advertised as being playable via in-game earnings? .