IMO the best way to get more people into 0.0 space is to make it more attractive to people, not disenfranchise them with major nerfs to high sec.

Seriously, if i was having fun at a place somewhere for a while, and the owner came along and told me to move to another area of theirs that was ****, and he was poking me with a stick to go, i would simple get up and leave.

Covert POS
Remove local
Remove NPC kill reports.
Player owned and destructible gates
Covert gates.

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- limit size of corps, allys, blue standings
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I think if you want to improve the attractiveness of null sec to an Empire resident then you need to work to the lowest common denominator - the individual player.

I believe that one of the primary barriers to players even dipping their toe into null sec space is the assumption, rightly or wrongly, that it is the domain of the highly organised large scale and already existing entities (corporations and alliances).

This thread is pretty awesome. You guys will get a few 0.0 changes this winter, smaller ones that should improve quality of life.

One thing I'm thinking about, but not entirely sure about is this: Putting bounties on drones instead of minerals. Mining used to be a viable way of making money in nullsec, but the increase in available minerals has driven the price down. I'm wondering if putting bounties on drones won't give mining a bit of a revival and put some life back in 0.0.

That's why the null chokes need to go. Once you get past them there's literally hundreds of empty systems people could settle in far from the power blocs to build their own empires---but the problem is, they all use the same pipes for empire access so while a big alliance may not care who lives at the highsec exit, they will care who's using their low-null pipe since it's literally their lifeline.

The map needs a rework, imo, less of a flower, more like the rings of a tree with high in the "core" and low and null as the outer layers.

just delete local T_T (maybe allow scanships access to local - make more scanships)

Right now I fly a Thrasher that's worth millions more than the hull of the ship itself. I like my Thrasher. I like my Rupture.

Outside of being in a thriving corporation, I cannot afford to continually replace my expensively modded out ships. (Well, the Rupture isn't modded out yet, but it will be as skills progress).

In high sec I can fly these and have fun blasting the hell out of NPC pirates. If I were to do this in low sec, I'd be ganged up on, blown to bits, MAYBE escape with my pod, and then be left with a huge hole in my hanger that I cannot afford to fill unless I simply fly basic hulls fitted with the cheapest mods on the market. Want me in low sec? Make ships free. I'll go into low sec and let you all blow me up all day long.

Powerful mods are expensive. I've got my eye on a rig that's going to cost me 23 million ISK. I am NOT taking that into low sec especially when the original poster clearly states that the reason he wants low sec to be populated is so he can go hunting.

I would be more inclined to go into low sec without local as has been said in many threads. Of course then the trolls call me stupid for suggesting that, but guess what trolls.... The question posed here was "What will entice you into low sec" so I answered the question. Sorry, I'm kinda fed up with the forum trolls here.

I'll venture into low and null when I find a powerful enough corporation to head in there with. Venturing into low sec solo is in no way appealing to me. Either way, I suppose it doesn't matter. Whether I'm flying solo in high sec or flying in a large fleet in null sec, the result is the same... I'll probably not be accessible for the random pvp ganking.

getting ganked more often while trying to rat will surely attract more high-sec people to null

If you are fitting a 23mil rig to a 5mil hull you are doing it wrong. Yes its ok to fly that in highsec, but just take a cheaper hull into lowsec. Nobody is forcing you to buy super expensive mods. Fly cheap and have fun!

... example. a frigate cyno can only move cruisers or smaller. ...

Covert POS (cloak is disrupted when people enter or leave it, can anchor in anomolies)
Remove Local
Remove NPC kill reports

... and small corps / alliances can covertly inhabit a null sec system.

Anyone want to make a remix of "Badger! Badger! Badger! mushroom, mushroom ... Ah snake!" with "D-scan! D-scan! D-scan! ore rock, ore rock ... Ah SB! "?

Mass limits with cynos could be interesting - you would need to introduce some method of tuning the cyno beacon's mass capability (doing it by ship type would not work). Scripts might work. You could have (2) or (4) different scripts to tune the mass vs cyno fuel used.

Unscripted you get the standard cyno beacon length with a mass limit capable of bringing in a single wing's worth of ships (say 30 battleships, 15 caps and 5 scaps).

Use a different script to get a higher mass limit (50% higher?), but at the cost of additional cyno fuel (doubled fuel costs). With an even more expensive script that boosts the mass limit to 80% higher, but with 4x cyno fuel usage.

Or a script that makes the cyno beacon with a lower mass limit (30% less) and lower cyno fuel usage (1/2). With another script that cuts your mass limit to 50% less but only uses 1/4 the fuel.

(Adjust numbers to fit - it would definitely add a bit of logistics to moving large fleets around, just like you have to deal with for wormholes. To bring a bigger fleet, you'd have to pop more cynos. Might work - might not .)

I'm not a fan. Jumping to a cyno already consumes isotopes, same as running ships through titan bridges. 300 liquid ozone (cyno IV) is trivially cheap and augmenting it by any multiplier just means that the ships used to light cynos would need more cargo space, and liquid ozone isn't exactly scarce.

As it is, jumping a large capital fleet requires multiple cynos to avoid bumping.

I think the limit is more to reduce how many and what size of ship can come through, maybe put a cool down timer on it also? So the first step would be to cyno in some guards and some other cyno ships.

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There are ways to limit supercapital force projection - this is not one of them.

Maybe also put a cool down on the cyno pilots that come in before they can start it up. Give the defenders more time to react or flee?

Yes, it should be tedious to deploy a huge fleet, it should be a total logistical nightmare. It should take time, maybe a day or two's planning. Not just crashing every system that you want to throw a quick party in.


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