[quote=Tippia]Player A (freighter) undocks in high sec in an slot less PvE ship. Player A only takes 10% of his capacity (2 billion isk of junk loot) to avoid being ganked. Player A is using his ship for its intended purpose. Player A gets ganked anyway because a bunch of low skilled cheap dessies costing 20 times less than his ship can kill his highly skilled expensive ship so cheaply they can do it just for lulz.

Player B (Carrier) undocks in a PvP ship without PvP mods. Player B jumps his ship deliberately into a battle (suicides). Player B is a moron and not using his ship for its intended purpose.

Its PvP. Aggressor can not be aggressed. Pilot cannot do anything to avoid aggressor. Pilot is just sitting there non-interactable. May as well not be in the ship.

But, the way You wrote it, Player B did it on purpose, so maybe there was a biggler plan behind his suicide run, which You can never hope to understand.

And Player A got ganked simply because someone was smarter than him...

And now that I've said that, I think we need to reevaluate who's the idiot in Your post...

Player A got ganked because the mechanics are imbalanced.

Player A got ganked because the mechanics are imbalanced.

Player A got ganked because there was a profit to be had. We dont gank these thing just for giggles.

Really? So your 31 man gank on the freighter also featuring in this forum atm in which 2 bil / 31 dropped you call profitable? You'd make more running level 4s and itd be more exciting for you since you'd be risking something at least.

Really? So your 31 man gank on the freighter also featuring in this forum atm in which 2 bil / 31 dropped you call profitable? You'd make more running level 4s and itd be more exciting for you since you'd be risking something at least.

Yeah but do LVL 4s drop tears?

Yeah but do LVL 4s drop tears?

Player A got ganked because there was a profit to be had. We dont gank these thing just for giggles.

Seriously, at least be honest and say you do it mostly for giggles. Any isk profit is just a nice bonus.

Heh, You make it sound as if 20 guys shouldn't be able to kill the lone freighter. :/

They probably invested hours upon hours just to get that one guy, success (financially) not guaranteed.

Player A (accidentaly) made people work for their KM, he should be proud of himself.

He's still an Idiot tho, he could've travelled with some boosting ships for company, or someone who just webs him for insta warp He can't be completely without friends... I think.

Oh horse crap. So everything in the game has to be done in a fleet, even one extremely tedious freighter flight to Jita? What a great idea that sounds like. I guess you live for this game and don't think about much else. Sad for you. Some people want to play this game like it's a game, not a stint in the army.

Fixed that for you

Well this is incredible because it's only a couple of weeks since I was told that no one loses JFs ever

If 1.2B is really quit-worthy after 8 years then I'm sorry. You should manage your budget more carefully.

Never pilot a JF through hisec. That is a juicy multi-billion ISK killmail even with an empty cargohold!

Instead, dock when you enter a hisec border system and transfer cargo to a freighter(s) to complete the trip.

Oh I seeee


It should be easy for one group of players and not another


Got it

Or rethink our skill system, because what's the point in leveling these skills, when a 2 week player can destroy what took 3+ months to skill for?

Even WoW rewards hard work better than this.

Put the time in = earned your rewards.

EVERYONE can shoot that freighter? Didn't it use to be only the corp of the first (dead) freighter pilot which was basically useless? Kind of evens the risk-free-PvP thingie!

Dear Baltec1, voice of bat country, I have a request for your wisdom.

Would my charon be able to haul a full load of trit in system 0.9, 0.8, 0.9 or will your britix feast upon my lossmail?

:D

Swipe from a can and everyone can shoot you for 15 min.

Except it can be aligned and ready to instawarp the moment it scoops. By the time it turns red its in warp.

Except it can be aligned and ready to instawarp the moment it scoops. By the time it turns red its in warp.

Thank you. I needed a good giggle in an otherwise quite bad day

Player A (freighter) undocks in high sec in an slot less PvE ship. Player A only takes 10% of his capacity (2 billion isk of junk loot) to avoid being ganked. Player A is using his ship for its intended purpose. Player A gets ganked anyway because a bunch of low skilled cheap dessies costing 20 times less than his ship can kill his highly skilled expensive ship so cheaply they can do it just for lulz.-áPlayer A deliberately decides that this is a good use waste of the space and proceeds to jump blindly and/or AFK through well-known camp spots (suicides). Player A is a moron and not using the right ship for the job.

Player B (Carrier) undocks in a PvP ship without PvP mods. Player B jumps his ship deliberately into a battle (suicides) because a bunch of low-skilled cheap BCs costing 20 times less than this ship can kill his highly skilled expensive ship so cheaply (zero cost) that they can do it just for lulz. Player B is a moron and not using [s]his ship for its intended purpose the right ship for the job.

And why is that a problem?

The mechanic works, it's a player behavior vs environment/rules = player content, no problem here, working as intended.