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Callyuk Thundercats The Initiative. 1	Posted - 2013.07.02 23:30:00 - [211] - Quote Short Stack122 wrote: Phish wrote: Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice) there is a system, its called having friends. your friends cant hold your hand every step of the way through eve Get real man. the ganking mechanic for freighters in high sec is broken
ReZoon The Arcanum Pwnasaurus. 3	Posted - 2013.07.02 23:40:00 - [212] - Quote What's the risk of flying a JF in high sec? What's the risk of attacking a JF in high sec? BALANCE
Kult Altol Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet 545	Posted - 2013.07.02 23:40:00 - [213] - Quote While I don't condone ganks, I believe everyone should be able to defend them selves. Even a freighter. Easiest solution is giving freighters the option to haul faster and have less Ehp, or Haul slower and have more Ehp. Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium. WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$
Jarod Garamonde Action Bastards 287	Posted - 2013.07.02 23:43:00 - [214] - Quote Elder TheRock wrote: NEXT sensless Jumpfreighter was ganked by Goons Cargovalue: 1.2 bil CCP you want this kind of "pvp"....if yes, you will lost all old players which gave your game the chance to grow 10 years ago! I play now over 8 years Eve....but now its over for me.... and all other players who want to tell me: "why you re so dump and fly in highsec with your Jumpfreighter" It was not my, it was only a good friend in my corporation....the second one in the last 2 month.... we will quit now.... THANKYOU CCP Regards Tom Give me all your stuff. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. PS: this could have been avoided if you'd used a scout and made instawarp bookmarks. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II
Callyuk Thundercats The Initiative. 1	Posted - 2013.07.02 23:50:00 - [215] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: Elder TheRock wrote: NEXT sensless Jumpfreighter was ganked by Goons Cargovalue: 1.2 bil CCP you want this kind of "pvp"....if yes, you will lost all old players which gave your game the chance to grow 10 years ago! I play now over 8 years Eve....but now its over for me.... and all other players who want to tell me: "why you re so dump and fly in highsec with your Jumpfreighter" It was not my, it was only a good friend in my corporation....the second one in the last 2 month.... we will quit now.... THANKYOU CCP Regards Tom Give me all your stuff. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. PS: this could have been avoided if you'd used a scout and made instawarp bookmarks. There are no such things as insta warps in a freighter/capitals but when undocking if you jump through a stargate and your 12-15km away from the gate and you been picked you're just fu***d end of story. Thats not the problem though. The problem is the game new mechanics allows gankers to gank 1 billion capitals carrying anything from nothing to 50 billion in 5 seconds with 30 t2 fit t1 destroyers after concord and gate guns are out of the equation due to it being bumped off the grid of the stargate
Naes Mlahrend KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance 108	Posted - 2013.07.02 23:57:00 - [216] - Quote Freaking Goons....Tear Extraction Professionals
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15350	Posted - 2013.07.02 23:59:00 - [217] - Quote Callyuk wrote: There are no such things as insta warps in a freighter/capitals Yes there is. They behave no differently than any other ship and can use an insta bookmark same as everything else. Quote: when undocking if you jump through a stargate and your 12-15km away from the gate and you been picked you're just fu*d end of story. GÇªunless you use insta-warping webbing ships, in which case you get into warp in, oh, 2s flat. Quote:** The problem is the game new mechanics allows gankers to gank 1 billion capitals carrying anything from nothing to 50 billion in 5 seconds with 30 t2 fit t1 destroyers after concord and gate guns are out of the equation due to it being bumped off the grid of the stargate None of that is true. They can't do it in 5 seconds, especially not with something as puny as 30 destroyers; neither CONCORD nor gate guns are out of the question (in fact, their presence is exactly what they have to compensate for); and none of it is actually a problem since there are plenty of counters to it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 363	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:06:00 - [218] - Quote Callyuk wrote: The problem is the mechanics allow 30 people to gank 1 person. Also totally obvious lie about how long it takes. I fixed this for you. This is what this all boils down to. 30 guys killed one guy, and you think it's unfair because he flew an expensive ship and they didn't. That's all this is. You are so wrong it's hard to describe it adequately in English. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Short Stack122 The Scope Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:08:00 - [219] - Quote Kult Altol wrote: While I don't condone ganks, I believe everyone should be able to defend them selves. Even a freighter. Easiest solution is giving freighters the option to haul faster and have less Ehp, or Haul slower and have more Ehp. dont worry, CCP has thought of that and created the Iteron/baders and the freighter/JF classes... now i see why tears are so easy to come by, most people dont think too hard
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15350	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:13:00 - [220] - Quote Short Stack122 wrote: Kult Altol wrote: While I don't condone ganks, I believe everyone should be able to defend them selves. Even a freighter. Easiest solution is giving freighters the option to haul faster and have less Ehp, or Haul slower and have more Ehp. dont worry, CCP has thought of that and created the Iteron/baders and the freighter/JF classes... now i see why tears are so easy to come by, most people dont think too hard GÇªnot to mention that, since I suspect that Kult is talking about giving it a lowslot, doing so would mean quite a significant nerf to freighters, and I don't thing anyone is really after that. Well, the gankers might approve, but that's about it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.

Zane Lowe Friendship is Podding Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:29:00 - [221] - Quote Phish wrote: Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice) Man, you really know nothing if you think you can kill a freighter with 30m worth of ships.
Callyuk Thundercats The Initiative. 1	Posted - 2013.07.03 01:32:00 - [222] - Quote Zane Lowe wrote: Phish wrote: Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice) Man, you really know nothing if you think you can kill a freighter with 30m worth of ships. lets be generous here and say 70m
Malcolm Shinhwa Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth 69	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:40:00 - [223] - Quote Phish wrote: Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice) I totally agree. A single freighter pilot with no friends should definitely be able to take on a coordinated group of pirates and survive 50% of the time. Oh wait.. no i don't.. that doesn't make any sense. Also, what has isk got to do with it? Cheaper ships kill expensive ships in Eve all the time. It isn't the ship or the isk, but the pilot and the brains that wins. I have 5 different chars that I play. This may be my main, or maybe not. I have no idea.
Infinity Ziona Cloakers 164	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:44:00 - [224] - Quote ReZoon wrote: What's the risk of flying a JF in high sec? What's the risk of attacking a JF in high sec? BALANCE 1. Very highrisk 2. Very low to no risk. IMBALANCE
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 529	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:44:00 - [225] - Quote Kult Altol wrote: While I don't condone ganks, I believe everyone should be able to defend them selves. Even a freighter. Easiest solution is giving freighters the option to haul faster and have less Ehp, or Haul slower and have more Ehp. Put less **** in the cargo hold and you will survive more ganks. Low value cargo don't get ganked because it cost too much to pop the damn thing.
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 529	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:48:00 - [226] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: 2. Very low to no risk. Well if you neglect the fact about all the ship used to attack said JF going boom every single time, I guess it's true there is nothing risked... Facing the loot fairy and potential difference in EHP via implants/links is also a risk. Some freighter/JF leaves the site in structure sometime.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15351	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:49:00 - [227] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: 1. Very highrisk LMAO no. If it were, they'd be dying all over the place. They aren't. So we'll put that down as very low to no risk as well. BALANCE! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Mourning Souls RvB - RED Federation 55	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:50:00 - [228] - Quote Only read OP. If that is how he feels about JF's with 1.2b in the hold, I wonder how he'd feel about an empty one.
Freakdevil Aliastra Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:52:00 - [229] - Quote Brush yourself off and get back on the horse... oh wait thats the other game. Get back in the ship? Oh wait it blew up... Best of luck playing Solitaire.
Zane Lowe Friendship is Podding Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:05:00 - [230] - Quote Callyuk wrote: Zane Lowe wrote: Phish wrote: Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice) Man, you really know nothing if you think you can kill a freighter with 30m worth of ships. lets be generous here and say 70m You missed a zero

Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3758	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:11:00 - [231] - Quote Tippia wrote: Infinity Ziona wrote: 1. Very highrisk LMAO no. If it were, they'd be dying all over the place. They aren't. So we'll put that down as very low to no risk as well. BALANCE! Dying at all means it's very risky to autopilot to Jita with a hold of stuff. VERY RISKY (to autopilot to Jita with a hold of stuff) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector
Callyuk Thundercats The Initiative. 1	Posted - 2013.07.03 05:41:00 - [232] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdq5in9fR-Y
Elecktra Blue Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 16	Posted - 2013.07.03 07:20:00 - [233] - Quote Callyuk wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdq5in9fR-Y At this point, you should stop, all you are doing is spamming YouTube links. Miniluv Minister
BoSau Hotim Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 5861	Posted - 2013.07.03 07:35:00 - [234] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: ReZoon wrote: What's the risk of flying a JF in high sec? What's the risk of attacking a JF in high sec? BALANCE 1. Very highrisk 2. Very low to no risk. IMBALANCE Seriously.... Are you one of those that wants EVERY thing to be balanced cuz It's not fair? You misunderstand the essence of EvE. low to no risk? what exactly is the no risk part? Every high sec ganking ship gets concorded. that is not a no risk scenario. Turning criminal is a high risk scenario. Other players can pod you. What exactly do you believe is fair? That JF are not allowed to be ganked in high sec? Balanced.... and working as intended. I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken?
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 15063	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:20:00 - [235] - Quote Callyuk wrote: U MAD BRO ? He doesn't get mad, he merely points out the mistakes you constantly make. You sound butt hurt though, if that helps. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
baltec1 Bat Country 7176	Posted - 2013.07.03 09:01:00 - [236] - Quote Callyuk wrote: Zane Lowe wrote: Phish wrote: Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice) Man, you really know nothing if you think you can kill a freighter with 30m worth of ships. lets be generous here and say 70m Wont even get you two brutix.
Elecktra Blue Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 16	Posted - 2013.07.03 09:05:00 - [237] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Callyuk wrote: Zane Lowe wrote: Phish wrote: Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice) Man, you really know nothing if you think you can kill a freighter with 30m worth of ships. lets be generous here and say 70m Wont even get you two brutix. Wait..We pay for ships? Miniluv Minister
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 165	Posted - 2013.07.03 09:23:00 - [238] - Quote They should point and giggle themselves to death. What everyone else is doing right now.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 923	Posted - 2013.07.03 09:30:00 - [239] - Quote Callyuk wrote: Zane Lowe wrote: Phish wrote: Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice) Man, you really know nothing if you think you can kill a freighter with 30m worth of ships. lets be generous here and say 70m Wut wut, you can kill a freighter with a Velator if the freighter pilot is dumb enough, undock while in WD and let the Velator pilot achieve this. Now for regular ganks you need at least 7/8 Talos and 2/3 Brutix all T2 fitted with top skilled pilots. Knowing a single Talos hull is already far more expensive than 70M do your own calculations. Yes some gangs need less dudes because he freighter pilot was an idiot and did something wrong. And no you can't gant random freighter at the gate full of nice stuff with a 70M fitted ship, not even in gankers dreams. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
baltec1 Bat Country 7176	Posted - 2013.07.03 09:40:00 - [240] - Quote Elecktra Blue wrote: Wait..We pay for ships? Well we spend the isk other people gift us.



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