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Although I see this as a whine post, being able to gank a 7bil ship with 500mil worth in highsec needs looking at.

I believe that EvE should be a difficult game. It should take effort to kill a multi-billion isk ship.

Thing is, how do you increase the risk/cost of ganking?

Nah. The thing is, why should you increase the risk/cost of ganking? The rest is much the same, though. In the end, it's the victims that determine the risks and costs, and if they think they are too low, they should try to raise them rather than complain about how their actions have made it GÇ£too easyGÇ¥ to gank them.

Although I see this as a whine post, being able to gank a 7bil ship with 500mil worth in highsec needs looking at.

Should be easy for no one.

Its much harder to set up a freighter gank than to make a freighter safe and requires at least 17 more people for the gank.

Lol. Its not hard at all. As you pointed out you make very high profits while sitting in high sec totally safe from harm. You're pretty much identical to the risk averse hi-sec miner except your profit is much higher. The miner has to worry about ganks and performs some effort. You bump a freighter and click a button once or twice.

If high sec pvers were as risk free and profitable as you, you guys would be screaming like little girls for CCP to nerf them. It benefits you, so you defend it. Thats pretty much the facts.

I would still personally like to see the Empires react to ganking in their space, people should get some kind of Faction hit for criminal acts with Empire space. It's like you can run around Caldari space causing hell and the State just goes "Oh well CONCORD will sort it out... no need for us to get annoyed he's ruining our trade routes"

Having Faction standing losses added would for me add more feel that the Empires are meaningful as well as another barrier against what has become a far too easy and common profession within EVE.

Lol. Its not hard at all. As you pointed out you make very high profits while sitting in high sec totally safe from harm.

You mean players shouldn't be allowed to make it easy for others to gank them?

So if I jump a completely untanked carrier into a fight with no exit cyno, no smartbomb, no neut, it shouldn't be any easier to kill than a carrier with faction tank, 2 exits, etc.?

Your analogy doesn't work. Its just obfuscation.

I would still personally like to see the Empires react to ganking in their space, people should get some kind of Faction hit for criminal acts with Empire space. It's like you can run around Caldari space causing hell and the State just goes "Oh well CONCORD will sort it out... no need for us to get annoyed he's ruining our trade routes"

Uhh, but this kind of PvP has been going on for all those years, and hasn't stopped the growth at all. So which is it?

Sorry for your troubles, but EVE has clawed and scraped its way into being the game it is today precisely BECAUSE it has not caved to the status quo and made PvP a watered-down, roped-off, optional afterthought but kept it as an integral part of everything that happens in the game.

You are never safe. Your ship is never safe. Your pod is never safe. Your cargo is never safe.

These are the facts that make EVE special, and if EVE ceases to be special it will simply cease to be. Don't fit, haul or pilot what you can't afford to watch go down in flames (or up in smoke).

If 1.2B is really quit-worthy after 8 years then I'm sorry. You should manage your budget more carefully.



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Lol. Its not hard at all. As you pointed out you make very high profits while sitting in high sec totally safe from harm. You're pretty much identical to the risk averse hi-sec miner except your profit is much higher. The miner has to worry about ganks and performs some effort. You bump a freighter and click a button once or twice.

If high sec pvers were as risk free and profitable as you, you guys would be screaming like little girls for CCP to nerf them. It benefits you, so you defend it. Thats pretty much the facts.

Oh andGǪHistorical lesson #1: Don't ever try to copy or emulate WoW GÇö it inevitably leads to failure and ruin.

Fun fact. You can gank our t2 brutix and make a profit. Its also possible to gank our t2 catalysts for profit too.
We also operate while under several wardecs, have countless killrights on us and the freighters tbat scoop the loot can be shot at by everyone with no concord help. So no, we operate at a much greater risk.

on top of the inherent risks involved and the consequences that need to be paid.

Your analogy doesn't work. Its just obfuscation.

darn you make it sound so easy

perhaps you should try it yourself if it's so simple and profitable

Thank you. I needed a good giggle in an otherwise quite bad day

If I wanted PvE against unarmed ships. . . Actually I wouldn't want that.

I would still personally like to see the Empires react to ganking in their space, people should get some kind of Faction hit for criminal acts with Empire space. It's like you can run around Caldari space causing hell and the State just goes "Oh well CONCORD will sort it out... no need for us to get annoyed he's ruining our trade routes"

Having Faction standing losses added would for me add more feel that the Empires are meaningful as well as another barrier against what has become a far too easy and common profession within EVE.
Security Status is far too easy to regain and not a real penalty for suicide ganking, in fact most ganking alts don't even bother to regain the standings because the Faction Police can be avoided long enough to warp to the next gank target and kill them.

Faction standing loss is something which will hurt that character in the long term making suicide ganking a profession with real consequences (although again most people are using alts and don't care about the long term effects).

A solution to this could be to start having Factions deny docking in their stations after your faction standings have dropped low enough, so if you continue to gank in Caldari HighSec you wont be able to use Caldari stations to keep you gank alt in or dock to get new ships. This also add more to the feel that the Empires are doing something and adds more to the Choices Matter which CCP keep saying they want in EVE.

TL;DR: Revamp HighSec to make Factions more alive and mean more than what LP you're getting.

http://themittani.com/features/bringing-life-highsec-tying-worlds-together Svetlana Scarlet also has

Why doesn't it work? What is it obfuscating?

well. it's pvp, actually. it's so simple and profitable you don't want to do it? please explain

well. it's pvp, actually. it's so simple and profitable you don't want to do it? please explain