Maybe the they could all use just a little more dps,

Rather not. Amarr is quite bad at passive tanking because lack of med slots required for shield tanking. And you can't passive tank a armor tanker.

Each race should have one command ship that has a bonus to local reps and one that has a passive/buffer tank bonus!

Other than that, the changes look good but i'm no command ship expert

To be honest, I think for that context of fight they'd be better off giving carriers the same bonuses as the command ships when it comes to links. Buffing command ships for the occasional 400 vs 400 leaves them unbalanced in other contexts.

Carriers have a bonus to the fitting on gang links, do they not? Why not give them the same leadership-related bonuses. It seems that as they had leadership skills as prerequisites for flying them, the notion existed in some past iteration of CCP and perhaps got lost along the way.

slepnir also taking massive dps nerf

50% EM 10% Explosive, active tank bonus, 6 lowslots and only two rig slots

Yeah, sure. I'm sure you can see how 'fine' the Astarte is by seeing how often its used right now.

Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 60(+10) / 85(+7.5) / 50
Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50 / 67.5(+8.13) / 83.75(+8.13) / 10

Why are command ships with active tank bonuses even a thing?

I also echo elendar's concerns. The minmatar/gallente ships are too vulnerable for large fleet fights. Not having natural resists or EHP to match up to their companions means they start off already incredibly hobbled.

It'd be nice to see one ship for each race left intact as an active brawler, but the other ship get a bit of love to make it tougher. Why do caldari and amarr get a monopoly on these bonuses, when they are far far far far far better for large gang situations. You have two commands for each race, so it makes sense to have one designed around small gangs and one designed for larger fleets. In the case of minmatar, you could leave the claymore with its active bonus, and give the sleip a strong passive tanking bonus.

Thats my only complaint, but the ships are pretty good otherwise.

Astarte is fine l2p

Armor doesn't regen, so if you passive tank armor you're done after one fight, win or lose. You have to go back to a friendly station to repair, and that could be far away. If you passive tank shield you can survive in enemy space forever and keep killing until someone finally beats you.

No. The mimatar/gallente command ships get a very powerful bonus to skirmish links. In exchange, they are more fragile. Less useful in fleets, but good in gangs.
The amarr/caldari command ships get a very powerful bonus to EHP. In exchange, they get a bonus to the crappy info warfare links that are seldom even used.

Seems fair. Give the minmatar/gallente EHP bonuses, and no one will ever use amarr or caldari command ships.

No. The mimatar/gallente command ships get a very powerful bonus to skirmish links. In exchange, they are more fragile.
The amarr/caldari command ships get a very powerful bonus to EHP. In exchange, they get a bonus to the crappy info warfare links that are seldom even used.

Seems fair. Give the minmatar/gallente EHP bonuses, and no one will ever use amarr or caldari command ships.

slepnir also taking massive dps nerf

Barely. less than one whole turret. That's less than a 4% DPS nerf, with so much more utility.

Sleps getting a 100% damage bonus to 5 guns, that = 10 guns worth of damage, thats more than 1.5 turets worth of damage lost.

So come Odyssey 1.1 Gallente are getting 2 big nerfs, Deimos loses a huge chunk of EHP and the Astarte loses ~8% dps (not home so can't do the math) do you feel that Gallente ships in general are currently too powerful for single and small gang warfare that you can justify these changes? (note: that these ships are already not the most used ships, and with these nerfs we might well see a decline in their use).

So many of these ships are already super tight on powergrid using a proper fit. I see here most of them are actually getting powergrid reductions in the same context of wanting to have them include ganglinks on board which use 200 powergrid each just for the t1 version. I also included the nighthawk here which is notoriously tight on CPU and its actually losing another 5 cpu. This really doesn't make any sense to me.

Nice changes, but why keep the local rep bonuses? These are gang ships as defined by their role, and local reps are useless in any gang setting. Change it for a hitpoint bonus instead to differentiate from the bonuses on amarr/caldari. Amarr get both, caldari get resists, gallente get hp, and minnies get more speed+reps.

As it stands it's a logical contradiction that means armor fleets won't have skirmish links when you remove off-grid boosts.

You're exceptionall bad. The suggested sleipnir does too much damage, it has more effective weapons than any other CS for some reason, when actually they should probably all be more or less the same.

Sleps getting a 100% damage bonus to 5 guns, that = 10 guns worth of damage, thats more than 1.5 turets worth of damage lost.