Don't be mad Trouser. As for this whole change I like it! Just give the Kronos it's web bonus back

Oh I like this a lot.

Still, I'd like to see an alternative to Bastion mode (using a different module, that cannot be fitted at the same time as the Bastion module) that allows the ship to serve an anti-POS role for places where dreadnoughts are not an option (C1-3 wormholes and highsec).

Do not underestimate the use of the bastion module, even for missions. The innate tank allows removal of tanking modules on fittings and the projection bonus helps a lot as well. I remember reaching 55-60km falloff on a Null Neutron Blaster Kronos on our internal test server

"Let's obsolete pirate battleships."

No?

Why not boosting the role bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams so that it matches the targeting range of those ships (around 100km) ?
Because now that the PvE Marauder is expected to stay at 0m/s while fighting, and that his max velocity has been reduced, it sounds like a reasonable change...

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For those saying "but everyone will run away and you can't keep them pointed whilst in Bastion" - have you not got friends to hold tackle for you?

missile bonus should be explosion radius or exp velocity cruises are already @ over any other range and torps ... are obsolute after last missile "rebalance". the defender thing is a point my ewar immunity should cover it..

and again vargur to the guy that stated vargur can do damage to 90km with autocannons look @ a damage graph learn what falloff is and then understand and then only then post again about how imba falloff boni might be

What about converting tactical logistics reconfiguration to a percentage reduction in fuel use, adding a fuel bay to marauders, using heavy water as originally considered?

It would be nice to have a better range bonus for tractors, along with tractor speed and salvager cycle time or salvage chance when the bastion is active. A marauder could have the same range as a Noctis without being too efficient since the Noctis has more tractors, more salvagers, and is more likely to have salvage tackle fitted. If the marauder can't salvage the wrecks created at maximum range while en-bastion-ed, that kinda reduces the attractiveness of this ship for PvE. Even a 200% bonus to range will still make salvaging in a marauder more attractive :)

If u got friends with tacklegear your enemy would first get rid of the tackling stuff und will then say "have an nice day". At the same time ur uber tank wil rendered useless because why on earth should i shoot your siege marauder if im tackled by a paper thin frig or cruiser?

So yea. The argument is there an valid but only if you deal with complete morons. Or in the other case, when you allready have more manpower. But then ur marauder is only more blob to the blob.

Correct, the enemy would be trying to get rid of your tackle - as you've forced their hand in making it the only valid target. Whilst in general it might be a case that you'd ignore the paper thin tackle ship and get rid of some incoming dps or logi should you aim to remain in the fight and win.

Lets say you're in a 10v10 fight, one or 2 of these landing on grid from one side are going to bring in Ewar and effectively dps immune projected damage that can be applied on the enemies. They deal decent damage, you can't stop them doing that damage, you can't kill them quickly - they force your hand to either retreat, or completely rethink the target calling.

I love the Concept but i dont get it why CCP isnt give Marauders T2 Resistence but reducing bastion resistence?

Anyone else think that their Paladin is going to go "vertical"








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I'm not sure I follow this - if you're talking about missions, a web bonus is not needed - with turrets, you snipe the frigates first before they come in close. Even when they do come close, a 90% web usually isn't enough to keep transversal down to hit them with large guns.

This would make a whole lot of sense without any major downsides imo. Leave the Bastion mod giving the 100% repair amount, but make the resists somewhat native with the ship. This way the non-bastion fits will be able to get decent RR and function in larger fleets and the Bastion will offer the benefits to smaller fleets which are often more down to a mix of e-war and tactics than just outright damage dealing.

Will the Bastion module be high slot? Or are we going to see a clear bias against shield or armour fleets when it turns out to be a mid or low slot?

We also are increasing their high slots to 8 to compensate for the slot allocation of the bastion mode.

I trhink Marauders are fine how they are, execpt the sensor strenght, a bit more dps and maybe a salvager bonus too.
If you want to make these ship class viable in pvp, you first have to lower the price or make them more unreplaceable for any fleet.

What when you add not only one Bastion mode (i dont like the idea with basion anyways).
For example:
Modul 1: (short range) +Tractor range/speed
+ massiv more dps and tracking
+ local tank
+ Web Bonus


Modul 2: (long range) + range/falloff increase
+ more ehp
+ boost long range weapon systems (maybe more ROF or DPS)
+ targeting range and speed

Modul 3: (Fleet version) + ability to be remote repaired/anergy transfer gained
+ massivley more ehp
+ sig lowerd
+ scan resolution and senor strength enourmus buffed

Thats only t2 moduls that can be fitted in a high slot and don't need any new skill, the marauder can choose it's role in PVE or PVP.
What do you think?