Warhammer 40k Online is now back in the pipeline, Praise the Emperor!

No Man's Sky and arguably Star Citizen also both target key EvE demographics as well.

It was a subscriber revolt over micro-transactions, gold ammo, generic pay to win and the leaked "greed is good" Hilmar mail that caused that. WIS was an unfortunate victim and had been in the works for some time already.

Yeah, no.

A convincing argument you have there. Try finding some evidence to go with it, otherwise it's just spam. Evidence to the contrary has been put forward many multiple times throughout this thread. The Incarna revolts had nothing to do with the idea of WiS. With a complete lack of evidence for your view, saying things like this is just somebody whining that history went they way they said that it did, because they said so. Cue crying noises.

You can go play with your Barbie dolls in some other game

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So, WiS is the victim?

Lol. Good luck with that one. I don't need what you describe as "evidence" to tell you that the expansion that wasted all of it's dev time on a feature they could not even seriously attempt to deliver which still managed to destroy high end machines at the time (thereby cutting of a huge portion of the playerbase), as well as being totally unrelated to either flying spaceships or blowing up spaceships in a game exclusively focused on flying and blowing up spaceships was a bad idea.

And if you think it's a good one, you're a fool. You can go play with your Barbie dolls in some other game, quit trying to shoehorn it into this one.

It was a subscriber revolt over micro-transactions, gold ammo, generic pay to win and the leaked "greed is good" Hilmar mail that caused that. WIS was an unfortunate victim and had been in the works for some time already.

Hence why we are discussing this (what, 3rd?) attempt by a company to produce a 40k MMO that will not manage to enrage some portion or other of the firmly established and intrenched player and fanbase of that IP.

Personally, I would be happy if they made one, I love me some Chaos Space Marines. But I don't think they will get much further than Dark Millenium did. There's too many interests tugging on that rope bridge for it to not collapse.

It's disingenuous to try and separate out WiS from micro-transactions when they were both aspects of the same underlying failing in CCP management. WiS was reformed into Incarna as a catwalk environment for players to show off their NeX Store purchases, if it hadn't been for the tilt towards the micro-transactions and Greed Is Good mindset you'd still likely be waiting for ambulation today.

As it is, anyone looking forward to WiS should be loudly celebrating the failure of Incarna since it led CCP to the revolutionary concept that just maybe, six years into development, they should try creating some actual gameplay content for it. WiS will be a much better feature when it finally gets a proper release since just maybe there will be something to do other than trying on monocles and jackets and drinking pretend space beer in a pretend space pub.

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I agree. Shall we ask the ISD to close it ?

I feel strongly inclined to do so

Although I agree that it was good that CCP were knocked back from their microtransactions focus, I think it is (to bastardise your phrase) disingenuous to correlate the Captains Quarters with Walking in Stations. We have never been given any WiS content for this MMO. The CQ, is a single player environment almost entirely separated from the actual game.

I feel strongly inclined to do so

Your choice, we'll help. Eating right now, so expect delay.

Understood

I have acted on this now.

I do not want this thread closed, as the question still stands and until CCP reply there is no reason to close it based on people anti-WiS calling for the thread to be closed.

I do not want this thread closed, as the question still stands and until CCP reply there is no reason to close it based on people anti-WiS calling for the thread to be closed.

This thread may have worn out its welcome with some people, but the fact it is this big in such a short time shows the amount of support walking in stations content has among players and also shows to what lengths detractors will go to try and keep WiS out of EVE.

So the question is. Does CCP know about the support WiS has and would they act on it?

So detractors are trying to get this thread closed in much the same spirit detractors of WIS content acted before and during Incarna. Fair enough, but who will the powers that be listen to?

Bias. Paranoia.

I am not a detractor. This thread is pointless, as all these words of you are.

Until you realise that your words are not helping, you'll all long have quitted the game.

They don't like being faced with the truth. They would prefer to continue thinking WIS was the reason for the Summer of Nerdrage.

Everytime someone makes a thread like this and it gets to be a threadnaught you have attracted the attention of a dev or two.

It's still mind-blowing to me that it wasn't until two failed attempts and six years of development that somebody made the suggestion that they might want to include some gameplay and some links to the wider Eve game.

The truth is that this thread accomplishes nothing

The substance of its replies has deviated drastically from its premise and has returned to a back and forth to and fro that has been repeated before many times.

It has nothing to do with the supporters or detractors of the WiS concept

Arguing back and forth achieves nothing

Asking if we are nearly there yet over and over neither proves its value nor does it prove any inherent worthlessness to the project

You clearly don't work in Public Relations if you believe this to be true

What prevented and, still prevent, WiS to develop gameplay integrated with EVE is just the NEX store. Is not a matter of CCP designing premade gameplay for it, the sandboz approach is just to preovide a framework and basic tools then to see how players use it and support with more tools. This is what CCP always made in EVE.

Problem is that NEX store allow to inject in the game items from nowhere, undestructable and bought with real money/AUR. Till NEX store is there will always make impossible to develop WiS as part of EVE main gameplay. Cause break the standard EVE "life cycle".

You clearly don't work in Public Relations if you believe this to be true