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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2013.12.23 21:21:00 -
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Vicisci wrote:allowing you to attack those perverts if you please But. I can attack them any/everywhere. What's wrong with you Role Players? It's like you need a specially created 'environment'.
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Vicisci
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.12.23 21:28:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Vicisci wrote:allowing you to attack those perverts if you please But. I can attack them any/everywhere. What's wrong with you Role Players? It's like you need a specially created 'environment'.
this has been discussed before in the thread, so whatever |

Logical 101
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Posted - 2013.12.23 21:33:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:What's wrong with you Role Players? It's like you need a specially created 'environment' Rae'Dynn takes offense to this statement, and he attacks you with his Vicious Dagger +5 (Melee). |

Marsha Mallow
23
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Posted - 2013.12.23 21:51:00 -
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Logical 101 wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:What's wrong with you Role Players? It's like you need a specially created 'environment' Rae'Dynn takes offense to this statement, and he attacks you with his Vicious Dagger +5 (Melee). Countered with my thread driveby DD. Bring back AOE! I want mine to be accompanied by outright guffawing, then some muppet yelling "You missed the point, ohhh, shiiii"
Vicisci wrote: this has been discussed before in the thread, so whatever
After Christmas, I'll return and regale you with stories about avatar based content in other games. These will be literal, frank, and disturbing. So you may block me now, and I'll just amuse myself. I hope you don't block me by then tho, then I can see your "whatever" reply and feel triumphantly old.
But anyway, continue with the perve stuff and the rping and "we were NOT groaning at each other". Once you start, I just can't stop laughing. Never said I wasn't a pervert or had a long attention span, don't feel like I'm talking down to you. - |

Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
82
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:13:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote: I wasn't trolling. No, really. I was just poking fun. You are welcome to reciprocate, no need to get mad. Althought that is also funny.
Wasn't at all mad. Was more like an eye roll. Too many coming in here thinking it's about RP and granted, i'm sure a lot of the RP'ers will find a lot of great use for it, I could honestly care less about the RP aspects of it. However, given how most that are against WiS find every bread crumb they can to shoot it down, they've consistently latched onto that argument and regularly use it as target practice for their fodder. And from experience with RP'ers, most get very passionate about....well, pretty much everything so they're easy to goad.
Quote: You missed point c) which was the most relevant. Summer of Rage was not just about MT, altho some of you want to desperately revise it. We saw the proposed WiS, and tbh, all a lot of us thought was. Hid yo wallet. Our game, our fwiends, for this crap. Also, my graphics card buhuh. Mass unsubbing. Never forget.
I didn't miss your point C. I simply dismissed it because it came across to me as yet another clueless person that simply believes the summer of rage was because nobody wanted WiS and everybody was pissed that CCP wasn't focusing on FiS. However, I retract that mentality as you do seem to actually remember some. Yet I will argue your memory is a bit skewed. What you are forgetting is that the general populace prior to Incarna were excited by the idea of WiS. Of course, pretty much like any new feature, there were some that didn't want it. I'm understanding you didn't and thus why your memory is biased. However, it appeared most did. Unfortunately, CCP failed to deliver what most everyone had gotten excited about. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I was with everyone in my anger over it. I was also all about them returning to doing FiS, at that time, because that was what was needed. And there still is work needed on FiS! I'm only returning to the idea of WiS now because its become apparent that CCP is looking towards doing massive new features again. So I'm just here to say, "hey, WiS shouldn't be forgotten. Why not build on that while continuing to fix FiS stuff instead of this entirely new content?" And really, how is this any different than people asking for Faction War to be fixed, after it was released as crap, and never iterated on or made better?
Quote:So we shouted, and raged and waved our pitchforks. And ye know. We won. You lot lost, and you only just realised.
So no. "We" didn't lose. And "we" didn't just realize. "We" just understood that CCP messed up bad and needed to take a step away from it. Two years later, they're looking at new features, so like I said, people like me are here to say, "don't forget about it" is all, even if you prefer they did. So what YOU, and others like you, need to realize is that this is really just another thread asking for iteration and elaboration on a feature that you're not interested in. Just like some could care less about null sov and rather see CCP work on what interests them while others think that should be CCP's main focus. It's no different. It's all a matter of opinion.
/end rant. 
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Haygrove
Sturmgrenadier Inc
10
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:18:00 -
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meh, no one "won", everyone lost in this faildeavor. |

Vicisci
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:58:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Logical 101 wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:What's wrong with you Role Players? It's like you need a specially created 'environment' Rae'Dynn takes offense to this statement, and he attacks you with his Vicious Dagger +5 (Melee). Countered with my thread driveby DD. Bring back AOE! I want mine to be accompanied by outright guffawing, then some muppet yelling "You missed the point, ohhh, shiiii" Vicisci wrote: this has been discussed before in the thread, so whatever
After Christmas, I'll return and regale you with stories about avatar based content in other games. These will be literal, frank, and disturbing. So you may block me now, and I'll just amuse myself. I hope you don't block me by then tho, then I can see your "whatever" reply and feel triumphantly old. But anyway, continue with the perve stuff and the rping and "we were NOT groaning at each other". Once you start, I just can't stop laughing. Never said I wasn't a pervert or had a long attention span, don't feel like I'm talking down to you.
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Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
457
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Posted - 2013.12.24 10:52:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:You missed point c) which was the most relevant. Summer of Rage was not just about MT, altho some of you want to desperately revise it. We saw the proposed WiS, and tbh, all a lot of us thought was. Hid yo wallet. Our game, our fwiends, for this crap. Also, my graphics card buhuh. Mass unsubbing. Never forget.
The original Incarnageddon threadnaught was linked about 5 or so pages back. Go look through it and see what they were raging about, because it wasn't the Walking in Stations dream. It was everything else CCP screwed up. The Summer of Rage is more or less irrelevant in this discussion except perhaps to remind CCP not to screw up with MTs, removing/forcing content, greed is good, and neglecting eve content for other projects (No, not the CQ. Dust, WoD, and the Carbon engine). A great deal of the Rage was because people were promised WiS and what they got was one obsolete room. A large amount of those people were raging that they didn't get WiS. Contrary to what you might assert.
Frankly whenever anyone argues this they never have any links, references, evidence. It's just bullshit. Find me enough evidence to outweigh what we have already provided and I will concede. But truth is anything you find will show that we are not try to revise history, you are. |

Arduemont
The State of War.
2562
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Posted - 2013.12.24 11:29:00 -
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The whole 'I was there!' scream people make when someone contradicts their delusion that the Summer of Rage was because of CCP's walking in stations dream is anecdotal.
Most people were there. I was there. Just because you remember it one way doesn't mean that it was. Objectivity is key. Go look at the threads, re-read the dev blogs, use your brain. Human fallibility is a fact of life. Your memory is not objective or reliable. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
796
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Posted - 2013.12.24 13:29:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:The Summer of Rage is more or less irrelevant in this discussion except perhaps to remind CCP not to screw up again with MTs, removing/forcing content, greed is good, and neglecting eve content for other projects (No, not the CQ. Dust, WoD, and the Carbon engine). A great deal of the Rage was because people were promised WiS and what they got was one obsolete room. A large amount of those people were raging that they didn't get WiS. Contrary to what you might assert.
But, but... I was there, like in the CCP vodeo! And we won.
We fought that epic fight against all of you sexual maniacs: for hours and hours with our pitchforks we hitted that invincible statue in Jita and we won, you lost and we won. We proved to be big boys, my mom confirm it too and agrees with me, because real men don't play with barbies on their spaceships!
I like the mobile depots and SOE frigates and now you would to replace them with pussies, babrbies and ponies? No, no and no!!!
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3684
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:18:00 -
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Scientific proof that WiS is bad for the game, because it involves opening the door. Therefore people will forget to fly space ships. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1642
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:23:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Scientific proof that WiS is bad for the game, because it involves opening the door. Therefore people will forget to fly space ships.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFENgb2zOn4 *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Non omnis moriar |

raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
340
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:44:00 -
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Don't worry friends, they be on the right track. My source inside the company just leaked me some footage of the summer expansion. HallelujahGäó plan makes sense now EVE : WISGäó And with that, I bid you all Merry Xmas and a Happy New 2014! Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM. |

Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
87
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:45:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Scientific proof that WiS is bad for the game, because it involves opening the door. Therefore people will forget to fly space ships.
You're seriously going to try that angle again? Have you really exhausted all viable arguments you may have had? (and you did have some)
Oh wait! Suddenly you saying basically the same line for the umpteenth time has made me realize you were right! I was wrong and your right! Just like some went into wormholes and never travel lowsec anymore! Those terrible people! They're not playing Eve my way! Or some spend all their time doing incursions and high sec PVE while never visiting null. Null is the ultimate end game content! They're not playing Eve my way! Or (before you say "but it's all FiS!") some sit in Jita and spam local all day, play the .01 game, and set new personal records on ship spins! The infidels! They're not playing Eve my way! |

Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
469
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Posted - 2013.12.24 18:12:00 -
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That link, as a reply to that post, is amazing. Truly epic forum posting of a whole other level. I tip my hat to you sir/maddam. |

Dr Vulix
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:55:00 -
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WiS has to come eventually otherwise everyone who bought Aurum-priced boots for their character got ripped off |

Jara Blackwind
Lutinari Syndicate Electus Matari
18
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Posted - 2013.12.25 07:51:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:So we shouted, and raged and waved our pitchforks. And ye know. We won. You lot lost, and you only just realised. You could at least take it gracefully. Or, ye know, consolidate together and create a coherent, relevant, immersive plan that doesn't just appeal to perverts or people with a short attention span. Role players can quite frankly, 'play with themselves and each other'. I always perceived them as a deviant minority whose only purpose is to be sniggered at, I'm sorry (no, really). The day CCP release an RP driven expansion before fixing the myriad of things we have literally shouted at them over (as opposed to whining, and writing convocations, whatever they are) we'll beat you. Again. No, little space trollette. The moment CCP laid off a significant portion of its employe-¦s and switched EVE to life support/ship stat rebalance mode, we all lost. You just don't understand it yet. Maybe, in 3 years you will.
-£-¦-âbe, you'll even get into an alliance big enough to build a player-owned stargate to the brave new GoonspaceGäó that is supposedly the new jesus feature, but you'll still log in into the same game with 10-year old POS system, abysmally idiotic NPC grinding for isk, the same sov mechanic, the same wonderful "epic fleet battles" of brackets and spreadsheet overview in time dilation. Because CCP won't touch most of your "myriad of things" with a 10-foot pole for multitude of reasons.
What is dead may never die, little forum warrior with a big pitchfork. You can only beat yourself. Again. |

Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
1795
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Posted - 2013.12.25 09:02:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Ambassador Crane wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote: ...extremely long troll attempt... When you're done playing WoW, try and take the time to read at least some of the thread.... Quote: Why can't you just wait 3 years? It's not THAT long, really. However, the last line I will consider answering. So... letGÇÖs seeGǪ Eve has been in existence for 10 years. ItGÇÖs now been two years since CQ was released. But you ask us to wait another 3 years? LetGÇÖs do the math here. So youGÇÖre basically asking for pro-WiS people to wait more than a third of EveGÇÖs existence (by that time), before they even begin work on it, to add any real content to WiS? Apologies if I just don't find that favorable. Don't get me wrong. I won't be surprised if I'm still here 3 years down the road. I've already invested 6 years of my gaming life to this game, 6x longer than any other game I've played, and I enjoy Eve the way it is now.... but that doesn't mean I can't desire to see more from WiS now rather than adding more nullsec real estate to the stacks of already "claimed" but unused real estate. I wasn't trolling. No, really. I was just poking fun. You are welcome to reciprocate, no need to get mad. Althought that is also funny. You missed point c) which was the most relevant. Summer of Rage was not just about MT, altho some of you want to desperately revise it. We saw the proposed WiS, and tbh, all a lot of us thought was. Hid yo wallet. Our game, our fwiends, for this crap. Also, my graphics card buhuh. Mass unsubbing. Never forget. So we shouted, and raged and waved our pitchforks. And ye know. We won. You lot lost, and you only just realised. You could at least take it gracefully. Or, ye know, consolidate together and create a coherent, relevant, immersive plan that doesn't just appeal to perverts or people with a short attention span. Role players can quite frankly, 'play with themselves and each other'. I always perceived them as a deviant minority whose only purpose is to be sniggered at, I'm sorry (no, really). The day CCP release an RP driven expansion before fixing the myriad of things we have literally shouted at them over (as opposed to whining, and writing convocations, whatever they are) we'll beat you. Again. There are more of us who like Eve as it is, than those who basically, want a completely new game. HTFU or move on.You lost this argument a long time ago. But the whining is exquisite, do continue. 2/10 imo. You were obviously having too much fun as you were writing. Just way too over the top and blatant, but the amount of text you vomit is surely worth 2 points towards making your posts seem legit.
Which if they were would mean you're a little rusty on your history there, Ms Mallow.  Major (Ret.) Caldary Naval Militia | Morale Officer (Pinup model) H4WK. CEO | Just another innocent explorer-á pâä
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Hemi DarkStar
Kassa Manufacturing
83
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Posted - 2013.12.26 11:36:00 -
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/25/free-for-all-revisiting-eve-onlines-newbie-tutorial/
Quote:"You'll next visit character creation. Several years ago CCP reconfigured the character creation to make it some of the best in the business, but many players became upset that any emphasis was being placed on systems other than on combat or spaceships. There was a perceived uproar (at least from this permanent newbie's perspective) that many EVE Online players thought that creating what is essentially in-game housing for avatars to walk around in was a useless and silly endeavor. There are many players (and I am not exaggerating) who would be happy with a series of spreadsheets to play with so they wouldn't have to mess with silly spaceships. Don't listen to some veteran player with a super-mean looking avatar: There were and still are many, many EVE Online players who would love the ability to socialize and explore outside of their spaceships. I am one of those people."
Quote:"When we look at it from the brand-newbie's perspective, the character creation and in-station time is essential. It gives the game some life, something that is often missing from the game. You can always find plenty of life within the chat box, but either you understand the appeal of social environments or you don't. It's a real shame that a new player walks up to the exit that will bring him into the social area of a station and it remains locked, even after all of this time."
Good to see this still gets some coverage in the news these days. Yes it's joystiq so who cares... still, nice of them to post something about it. Even though we can't agree on what sort of WiS content should be added, it's good to keep the conversation going. 
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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
804
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Posted - 2013.12.26 16:46:00 -
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Hemi DarkStar wrote:http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/25/free-for-all-revisiting-eve-onlines-newbie-tutorial/
Yes, good article. Massively is probably the best MMORPG blog around and the guy writing EVE reviews is intelligent and generally on spot.
Beside, ehe weakness and aspects in EVE are in need of attention sound obvious to any experienced gamer.
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Zaka Von Pain
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.12.26 17:16:00 -
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Just saw that article and came here found this.
So has anyone from CCP noticed this thread at all? Seems like one of the biggest threads (in a short time) must have some important information about what players are up to?
no? |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2929
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Posted - 2013.12.26 17:17:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Hemi DarkStar wrote:http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/25/free-for-all-revisiting-eve-onlines-newbie-tutorial/ Yes, good article. Massively is probably the best MMORPG blog around and the guy writing EVE reviews is intelligent and generally on spot. Beside, ehe weakness and aspects in EVE are in need of attention sound obvious to any experienced gamer.
Also sounds obvious that adding more nullsec toys on top of "fixing" nullsec sov is not going to make noobs queue to try out the game. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
472
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Posted - 2013.12.26 17:24:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Sura Sadiva wrote:Hemi DarkStar wrote:http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/25/free-for-all-revisiting-eve-onlines-newbie-tutorial/ Yes, good article. Massively is probably the best MMORPG blog around and the guy writing EVE reviews is intelligent and generally on spot. Beside, ehe weakness and aspects in EVE are in need of attention sound obvious to any experienced gamer. Also sounds obvious that adding more nullsec toys on top of "fixing" nullsec sov is not going to make noobs queue to try out the game.
I'm pretty sure it's to the point they aren't looking for new people. Just trying to control the leaking.
R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Nathanien Indoril
Creation and Extraction
46
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Posted - 2013.12.26 18:21:00 -
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Zaka Von Pain wrote:Just saw that article and came here found this.
So has anyone from CCP noticed this thread at all? Seems like one of the biggest threads (in a short time) must have some important information about what players are up to?
no?
Probably. But it doesn't matter, the response is always the same.
"Blablabla .. we would love to... Blablabla ... but currently nobody is working on it Blablabla ... because *insert any statement, mostly something about current development* Blablabla ... and there are no plans to change that in the foreseeable future."
A post like that pops up from time to time, just dig through the other WiS threadnaught, you'll finde some of them there.
The responses are always the same too. Stuff like "it's okay they are fixing things, but they should start in ~2 years". Guess what most of us said, two years ago (; |

Arduemont
The State of War.
2733
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Posted - 2013.12.27 18:33:00 -
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Nathanien Indoril wrote:Zaka Von Pain wrote:Just saw that article and came here found this.
So has anyone from CCP noticed this thread at all? Seems like one of the biggest threads (in a short time) must have some important information about what players are up to?
no? Probably. But it doesn't matter, the response is always the same. "Blablabla .. we would love to... Blablabla ... but currently nobody is working on it Blablabla ... because *insert any statement, mostly something about current development* Blablabla ... and there are no plans to change that in the foreseeable future." A post like that pops up from time to time, just dig through the other WiS threadnaught, you'll finde some of them there. The responses are always the same too. Stuff like "it's okay they are fixing things, but they should start in ~2 years". Guess what most of us said, two years ago (;
Pretty much this.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Tear Dancer
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:13:00 -
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I thought i read an article a month or so ago on a MMO site that mentioned CCP was going to make an MMO with heavy Avatar interaction. Can't remember if it was for EVE. Has anyone heard anything about CCP plans? Pi$$ed off Exotic Dancer |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2170
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:27:00 -
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Tear Dancer wrote:I thought i read an article a month or so ago on a MMO site that mentioned CCP was going to make an MMO with heavy Avatar interaction. Can't remember if it was for EVE. Has anyone heard anything about CCP plans? world of darkness mmo
not eve. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2931
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:40:00 -
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Tear Dancer wrote:I thought i read an article a month or so ago on a MMO site that mentioned CCP was going to make an MMO with heavy Avatar interaction. Can't remember if it was for EVE. Has anyone heard anything about CCP plans? The "plan" for World Of Darkness seems to to be "expend as few resources on this contractually obligated white elephant as we can get away with, in the hope that somebody out there is as dumb as we were when we bought White Wolf and wants to take it off our hands. Anybody? Please?" Post on the Eve-o forums with a Goonswarm Federation character that drinking bleach is bad for you, and 20 forum warriors will hospitalise themselves trying to prove you wrong. |

Jadiss
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
14
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Posted - 2014.01.02 15:09:00 -
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Fanfest 2013
Somebody asked for it earlier in this thread. |
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