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Leigh Akiga
Laissez-faire Economics
493
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:37:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Weaselior wrote:"every time I use an overpowered flavor of the month ship it gets nerfed" "this must be a conspiracy against me, not that overpowered flavor of the months always get nerfed eventually" Love how you guys are completely losing your **** over a 5% nerf (which I am on record as saying is completely stupid and unfair), but I am complaining about something that is OP. Not too much hypocrisy there.
The first clue that there was a problem came in the alliance tournament with the number of Dominix doctrines.
Then we have this alliance update from esteemed CSM Member Progodlegend:
"Yes, that's right. GÇ£Ishtar.GÇ¥ As promised ever since the HAC rebalance changes were first announced, the hour of Ishtar Secunda is now upon us. Disregard Domis; acquire Ishtars. The sentry drone is victory; the sentry drone is life."
And then look at what is being fielded in 0.0 today:
Goons: Dominix EMP/TEST: Dominix PL/NC/N3: Sentry carriers, Ishtars, Proteus-(which recently had its fit tweaked to drop sentries wlolo) Fountain Conflict/kerfluffle: FA/Li3: Dominix Razor: Ishtars Triumvirate: ishtars Lead Farmers: Ishtars DARKNESS.: Switching to Dominix SOLAR FLEET: switching to Dominix
Literally everyone in 0.0 is flying Ishtars, Dominix or sentry carriers
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4353
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:47:00 -
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Stinky WizzleteatsJr wrote:I do find it rather stupid that you making the omnis scripts for range to "bring them in line with turrets" without making a drone tracking enhancer to "bring them in line with turrets". Rather hypocritical don't you think?
I'm ok with omni changes per se but this guy is right.
It reminds me of the propsed changes that would have had tracking mods affect missiles. Missiles are fundementally different from turrets and it was a dumb-ish idea. Doing something to "bring drones in line with turrets" seems similarily dumb-ish. |
Alim Omaristos
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
9
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:48:00 -
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Well I am very pleased with this idea, will an easier way to see drone statistics in space be implemented? When I used to use drones for pve it was several clicks to see the drone range and the effect of modules and skills, now we will have to know drone range and tracking as mods and scripts change it. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1951
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:52:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Weaselior wrote:"every time I use an overpowered flavor of the month ship it gets nerfed" "this must be a conspiracy against me, not that overpowered flavor of the months always get nerfed eventually" Love how you guys are completely losing your **** over a 5% nerf (which I am on record as saying is completely stupid and unfair), but I am complaining about something that is OP. Not too much hypocrisy there. The first clue that there was a problem came in the alliance tournament with the number of Dominix doctrines. Then we have this alliance update from esteemed CSM Member Progodlegend: "Yes, that's right. GÇ£Ishtar.GÇ¥ As promised ever since the HAC rebalance changes were first announced, the hour of Ishtar Secunda is now upon us. Disregard Domis; acquire Ishtars. The sentry drone is victory; the sentry drone is life."And then look at what is being fielded in 0.0 today: Goons: Dominix EMP/TEST: Dominix PL/NC/N3: Sentry carriers, Ishtars, Proteus-(which recently had its fit tweaked to drop sentries wlolo) Fountain Conflict/kerfluffle: FA/Li3: Dominix Razor: Ishtars Triumvirate: ishtars Lead Farmers: Ishtars DARKNESS.: Switching to DominixSOLAR FLEET: switching to DominixLiterally everyone in 0.0 is flying Ishtars, Dominix or sentry carriers
Small thing:
I have been using my Proteus Sentry boat long long before the HAC/ Domi overhaul. Once again, a PvE tactic is ruined by another bad CCP hire, who is obsessed with PvP.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Oh Takashawa
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
9
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:55:00 -
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Man Dinsdale, I love how mad you get, and how victimized you make yourself feel. You ***** almost as much as Poetic did - I look forward to your RMTing crybaby blog post when you quit. |
Edmark I
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:58:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a PvE tactic is ruined by another bad CCP hire, who is obsessed with PvP
This is primarily a pvp game Br0beans. The challenge is balancing the two- hence the word: balance.
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Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA C0VEN
280
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:17:00 -
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And the assist mechanic that is real issue? Oh wait .... TIDI IS NIGHTMARE - CCP SHOW US THE TIMERS Reactivation timers on : MJD and more. Please like & post in this idea to keep it visible. |
Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA C0VEN
280
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:24:00 -
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What the .... Why are you making nullsec pvp : assist and go to sleep. What is wrong with thinking by youself?
Sov PVP is one of the aspects of this game - why keeping it so dumb? TIDI IS NIGHTMARE - CCP SHOW US THE TIMERS Reactivation timers on : MJD and more. Please like & post in this idea to keep it visible. |
Capqu
Love Squad
404
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:32:00 -
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why don't drone control range modules have stacking penalties yet
its 2014 fozzie http://pizza.eve-kill.net |
Tankn00blicus
sleep Deprivation INC. LLC Brothers of Tangra
33
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:34:00 -
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Capqu wrote:why don't drone control range modules have stacking penalties yet
its 2014 fozzie http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Stacking_penalty
Quote:If a module with the stacking penalty is added along with a module that enhances the same effect by an absolute number (regular, non-percentile), the module with the absolute value will not be reduced in effect. For example, I add a 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I module to my ship. This boosts armor by 3000 hit points. I then add two Regenerative Plating I modules, which boost armor by 6% each, with the effect of the second one being reduced. The effect of the 1600mm plates is unchanged. |
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Capqu
Love Squad
404
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:36:00 -
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i understand that, i'm saying its time for change
obama was right http://pizza.eve-kill.net |
Llyona
sleep Deprivation INC. LLC Brothers of Tangra
41
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:36:00 -
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Edmark I wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a PvE tactic is ruined by another bad CCP hire, who is obsessed with PvP This is primarily a pvp game Br0beans. The challenge is balancing the two- hence the word: balance.
I for one am extremely excited about these buffs to sentry drones. Now we can push our drones even further or have them track even faster. Keep up these buffs to sentries CCP! EVE is an illness, for which there is no cure. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1952
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:46:00 -
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Edmark I wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a PvE tactic is ruined by another bad CCP hire, who is obsessed with PvP This is primarily a pvp game Br0beans. The challenge is balancing the two- hence the word: balance.
Ah. back to that canard. One of your other zealots, Jenn whatever, has posted that 11% of the player base is in Sov alliances. Hate to to break it to you, but once again we see a far larger group (PVE focused players), getting screwed to deal with a problem that ONLY occurs in large blob-sec fleet fights. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Cloora
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
124
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:48:00 -
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CCP Fozzie, I think most of us are fine with these changes, but for the love of all things in New Eden, can you change all scripted modules to have the scripts BUILT IN TO THEM?!
I hate having to find and buy all the scripts to make a module work like it was designed to in some back woods null sec. Just make the modes selectable. I hate getting into batte and then realizing I forgot the other script when I need to change.... http://www.altaholics.blogspot.com
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Llyona
sleep Deprivation INC. LLC Brothers of Tangra
41
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:49:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Edmark I wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a PvE tactic is ruined by another bad CCP hire, who is obsessed with PvP This is primarily a pvp game Br0beans. The challenge is balancing the two- hence the word: balance. Ah. back to that canard. One of your other zealots, Jenn whatever, has posted that 11% of the player base is in Sov alliances. Hate to to break it to you, but once again we see a far larger group (PVE focused players), getting screwed to deal with a problem that ONLY occurs in large blob-sec fleet fights. Hey Dinsdale,
They could always do what some other MMO companies have done to solve this problem; Creating two seperate modifiers. One for PVP and one for PVE. So, when you shoot at rats, you get the PVE stats. When you shoot at players or POS, you get the PVP stats.
Frankly, I'd prefer a homogeneous setup though, as it can get pretty ridiculous with a dual system. EVE is an illness, for which there is no cure. |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
480
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:03:00 -
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Good change. We'll have to test the numbers to see how well it plays out. Free Ripley Weaver! |
Malken
Anomalous Existence Surely You're Joking
50
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:03:00 -
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[quote=CCP Fozzie
Sentry drones are obviously one of the more discussed weapon systems in the EVE community right now.![/quote]
and here i am thinking that neutral logis is the most discussed one :P
Gÿ+/ /Gûî / \
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1952
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:05:00 -
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Llyona wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Edmark I wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Once again, a PvE tactic is ruined by another bad CCP hire, who is obsessed with PvP This is primarily a pvp game Br0beans. The challenge is balancing the two- hence the word: balance. Ah. back to that canard. One of your other zealots, Jenn whatever, has posted that 11% of the player base is in Sov alliances. Hate to to break it to you, but once again we see a far larger group (PVE focused players), getting screwed to deal with a problem that ONLY occurs in large blob-sec fleet fights. Hey Dinsdale, They could always do what some other MMO companies have done to solve this problem; Creating two seperate modifiers. One for PVP and one for PVE. So, when you shoot at rats, you get the PVE stats. When you shoot at players or POS, you get the PVP stats. Frankly, I'd prefer a homogeneous setup though, as it can get pretty ridiculous with a dual system.
I also think a dual system ispretty ridiculous. But for CCP to damage the play of the majority to deal with a problem being experienced, if it is indeed a problem, by the small minority, is foolhardy.
Instead of dealing head-on with the issue of blobs, they try these bandaid solutions, which wreck a game mechanic for oh so many who never see, or want to go near, a blob. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Celia Therone
University of Caille Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:07:00 -
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So if we're going for equity between guns and drones what are the plans on: Low slot cap-less tracking enhancer for drones? Faction (Navy) drone damage amplifiers? Rate of fire rigs for drones? Over-heatable mods (drone damage amplifiers or the drones themselves) for drone damage? Drone damage/rate of fire/tracking implants?
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8525
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:17:00 -
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Capqu wrote:why don't drone control range modules have stacking penalties yet
its 2014 fozzie Drone link augmenters are balanced. After all, we need to fit six of the T2 DLAs in order to hit out to 200 km, and that's only so that our drones will activate. We still have to fit several omnis for them to actually apply any damage at that distance.
The real culprit here is the drone assist, which allows us to shoot that far without having to be able to lock at that distance. My EVE Videos |
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Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
350
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:23:00 -
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Just do a balance pass on drones already.
They have unique problems, and I am sorry that using their strengths in null sec has caused issues with the vocal minority. They deserve some deve time and love.
I am not opposed in general to making omnis active, but look at the whole setup and please stop killing them an inch at a time to make the gun bunnies happy. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6119
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:38:00 -
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Cloora wrote:CCP Fozzie, I think most of us are fine with these changes, but for the love of all things in New Eden, can you change all scripted modules to have the scripts BUILT IN TO THEM?!
I hate having to find and buy all the scripts to make a module work like it was designed to in some back woods null sec. Just make the modes selectable. I hate getting into batte and then realizing I forgot the other script when I need to change.... I expect the answer is "not without a month's worth of programming". "I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8530
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:06:00 -
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That's actually a good question... why do we even have scripts in the first place? My EVE Videos |
TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
125
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:17:00 -
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Did you really just buff Sentry drones? |
Kassasis Dakkstromri
Terra Incognita Insidious Empire
138
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:39:00 -
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Instead of nerfing Omni's for the CFC and Goonswarm Fozzie, maybe when the CFC picked up their CSM/CCP Batphone and whined and b!tched someone in CCP could have had the ballz to tell them to ESCALATE!
ESCALATION = PROBLEM SOVLED!
Totally disapprove of a change like this in the middle of a War! Srsly? |
Ponder Stuff
Deadly Intent. Cynosural Field Theory.
15
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:42:00 -
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Well done fozzie........ :/ |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
207
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:42:00 -
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Hey, Sentries are the most used weapon system in the game for both PvE and PvP of every scale, let's buff them!
Thanks for making afktars and domi blobs even stronger than they are, Sentries really needed a buff, seeing as how they were severely underused in the current meta. This is starting to feel like BoB, how come balance and game design seem so favored towards one of the largest powerblocs in the game, the name of which shall not be mentioned? |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1060
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:45:00 -
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Seems pretty reasonable to me, they probably should have always been like that.
Any plans for lowslot drone tracking modules? |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
163
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:06:00 -
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Capqu wrote:why don't drone control range modules have stacking penalties yet
its 2014 fozzie
Mathematically an additive bonus that increments by a fixed amount ALREADY IS stacking penalised automatically. Adding a fixed amount has diminishing percentage returns.
If the DLA gave a percentage increase in drone control range a stacking penalty would be necessary. The DLA gives a fixed bonus so the stacking nerf is already built into the module.
Example of current T1 DLA (adds 20km) and assuming initial drone control range before DLA of 60 km.
1st DLA adds 30% to range 2nd DLA adds 25% to range 3rd DLA adds 20% to range 4th DLA adds 17 % to range 5th DLA adds 14% to range
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Backseat Promises
993
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:19:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Warde Guildencrantz wrote:as long as my ishtar can volley with bouncers from 150k still, okay with bouncers.. yes but less effectively (more within falloff). With curators you wont snipe that far anymore.
i only used wardens or bouncers for that kind of stuff |
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