Originally by: Ishmael Hansen

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Edited by: Ishmael Hansen on 02/07/2006 02:37:36
Edited by: Ishmael Hansen on 02/07/2006 02:36:29
ok, I have target navigation predition 5, guided missile precision 4, heavy missile spec 4, and command ship 3

2006.07.02 02:25:06 combat Your Scourge Heavy Missile hits Emperor D'Hoffryn [LGO]<HF>, doing 32.7 damage.

That's on a STOPPED vengeance with scourge, 9.3 damage with havoc. (on shield)

Is this a frig killer?

this is a small gun damage:

2006.06.09 02:14:27 combat Your 250mm Light
Artillery Cannon II perfectly strikes G Genetic
[R.B.S], wrecking for 416.2 damage.

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Originally by: Double TaP

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how is a tech 1 battlecruiser going to make the nighthawk obsolete. do you not know what these FCS are capable of tanking? The fact is that its a ship that is supposed to do a lot more damage than an HAC, and its missile based. As it stands right now, it sucks. and the problem is that i see absolutely NO reason not to fix it.

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Originally by: Necrologic

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What if the t2 tier 2 bc is a railboat? 0_o

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Originally by: SavageThrash

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In response to kilrock;s post yes, the nighthawk does its job ok but why do we ahve to have the frig killer? were not arguing that the nighthawk isnt a good frig killer we arguing that the its damage is no where near what it should be, if the nighthawk should go into any catogoery it would be much better as a "logistic ship" in its current state killing frigs then what its role should make it, a high damage assult ship like all other command ships.

As for a tank setup someone was asking for, if its the nighthawk tank setup your looking for,

1 faction large booster (no xl here cause were not overpowered and fit the smallest guns (which still have uber dmg) and have massive amounts of pg left over *coughsleipcough*)

1 med cap injector
1 invul
1 em
boost amp

Now thats a pretty wicked tank, but it also cost a several hundred mill, compared to a t2 absolution tank which is very good considering its price.

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Originally by: Necrologic

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Any ship with faction tanks pritty damn well. I think a better example would be a t2 kit.

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Originally by: SavageThrash

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Edited by: SavageThrash on 02/07/2006 20:34:27

Originally by: Necrologic

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Any ship with faction tanks pritty damn well. I think a better example would be a t2 kit.

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Yes but i was stating that you need a faction tank on a nighthawk to equal a t2 tank on an absolution.

5 slot tank need to be faction to be equivilent to an effictivly 8 slot absolution tank (med cap injector)

add 2 dmg mods and u still have a 6 slot effective tank.

For a t2 tank you bascially take teh tank setup i mentioned and replace it with a t2 large booster.

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Originally by: Nekora

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i Still Stand by changeing the 5% precision per level to 5% ROF per level to bring the bonus in line with EVERY OTHER Field command ship. the ship has pleanty of range already so a velocity bonus just seems silly, and we have pleanty of ships cappable of pinning frigates without another one.

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Originally by: Double TaP

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Originally by: Nekora

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i Still Stand by changeing the 5% precision per level to 5% ROF per level to bring the bonus in line with EVERY OTHER Field command ship. the ship has pleanty of range already so a velocity bonus just seems silly, and we have pleanty of ships cappable of pinning frigates without another one.

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You forget that the velocity bonus is to actually make t2 missiles work, and to hit smaller things. If they're going to make the Nighthawk a railboat, I honestly wouldnt mind that, as long as they promised not to gimp the t2 tier 2 bc. But if its going to stay its missile battlecruiser heavy assault ship, it needs

5% resists
5% Heavy Missile RoF (not lights)

10% Heavy Missile Velocity
5% Heavy Missile (Heres the tricky part. Either Kinetic Damage, or another RoF bonus. I don't think another RoF bonus would be overpowered, so I wish they would test it on the test server at least.)

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Originally by: Nekora

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Edited by: Nekora on 04/07/2006 23:38:03
Edited by: Nekora on 04/07/2006 23:37:35
Would be nice, but the other races have a damage and rof. RoF actualy gives a better DPS than Damage bonus. so i can not realy justify it. if you have a reason why a second RoF as apposed to Damage, please inform us. Its always good to hear a fresh opinion/viewpoint on a topic.

Ad for you lazy bum's who have not read all 16 pages, the curent (we hijacked the original thread :)) topic is the modification of the Nighthawk bonus to reflect the other Field Command Ships. Or Vice versa, although no-one seems to have taken a likeing to that. I Wonder Why?

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Originally by: Double TaP

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A velocity bonus doesn't cancel out the penalties of t2 ammo. You're either gimping your cap or gimping your speed. Most missile boats have a velocity bonus, its only natural. And personally I would like to see 2 RoF bonuses on the test server so I can do some dps calculations.

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Originally by: Double TaP

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You forget that the velocity bonus is to actually make t2 missiles work

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Originally by: Nekora

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Would prefer a 5% Damage and a 5% RoF bonus, saveing on ammo and hence cargo space, and cost of T2 missiles. And also increce alpha strike - Altough i will admit that has limmited effect. Any reasons you would prefer two RoF bonus as to one Damage and one Rof?

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