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Ishmael Hansen
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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:15:00 -
[601]
 Originally by: Mar vel
*wonders* how many times people have to post and complain about the absolutely ineffective bonuses and DPS of nighthawks and vultures before someone decides to give them some *love*
Whinning started, I had time to train BC 5, squadron command 4, leadership 5, command ships 4, then I cried for days, then trainned minnie cruiser 5, med projectiles 5 and the AC, Atry specs, and Nighthwak still crap waiting for a solution, but hey, who cares, I can fly a Sleipnir now. whinning isn't over as the NH is still space junk.
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SavageThrash
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:02:00 -
[602]
Did somethign very similar to you there ish, i did it with teh absol but i can already use t2 hybrides adn t2 arty and ac so i see cs speccing coming my way soon.
*snip* Please do not discuss moderation in your signature -Eldo
Woah^^^
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Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind
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Posted - 2006.10.11 14:25:00 -
[603]
I allready trained to Sleipnir since the Nighthawk is not getting any atention.
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ookke
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Posted - 2006.10.11 14:28:00 -
[604]
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I allready trained to Sleipnir since the Nighthawk is not getting any atention.
linky
Quote:
# Nighthawk's explosion velocity changed to launcher rate of fire bonus
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Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind
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Posted - 2006.10.11 14:43:00 -
[605]
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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 14:49:00 -
[606]
Originally by: ookke
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I allready trained to Sleipnir since the Nighthawk is not getting any atention.
linky
Quote:
# Nighthawk's explosion velocity changed to launcher rate of fire bonus
it still does less damage than other command ships, is still slower and is still unusable in PvP. if I could fly any command ship after training for the Nighthawk, it wouldnt be so bad. but I cannot just switch race, so my training time seems to be a waste.
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Radioactive Babe
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Posted - 2006.11.26 15:04:00 -
[607]
Edited by: Radioactive Babe on 26/11/2006 15:05:02
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo
Originally by: ookke
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I allready trained to Sleipnir since the Nighthawk is not getting any atention.
linky
Quote:
# Nighthawk's explosion velocity changed to launcher rate of fire bonus
it still does less damage than other command ships, is still slower and is still unusable in PvP. if I could fly any command ship after training for the Nighthawk, it wouldnt be so bad. but I cannot just switch race, so my training time seems to be a waste.
It has the best tank, you want it to have that but be the same as every other command ship damage wise?
<edit, d'oh>
<nelson>ha, ha</nelson> |
Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 15:26:00 -
[608]
Edited by: Nalshiga Dshoayo on 26/11/2006 15:27:07
Originally by: Radioactive Babe
Edited by: Radioactive Babe on 26/11/2006 15:05:02
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo
Originally by: ookke
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I allready trained to Sleipnir since the Nighthawk is not getting any atention.
linky
Quote:
# Nighthawk's explosion velocity changed to launcher rate of fire bonus
it still does less damage than other command ships, is still slower and is still unusable in PvP. if I could fly any command ship after training for the Nighthawk, it wouldnt be so bad. but I cannot just switch race, so my training time seems to be a waste.
It has the best tank, you want it to have that but be the same as every other command ship damage wise?
<edit, d'oh>
the best tank? are you kidding? we need shield extenders which rise signature even more (335 sig with 2), but that is hardly possible with the limited powergrid (710!!!). fitting shield hardeners AND shield extenders is much easier on the tech 1 ships. I have nearly all related skills maxed out and I still have a hard time fitting the ship.
and the other command ships have similar tanking abilities, but MUCH BETTER DPS!
when you dont fly the NH, it is easy to overestimate its capabilities. but with the powergrid so low and the high mass and sluggish speed, it is nothing but a sitting duck which cant kill anything above frig level in PvP. and there are better frig killers out there, so why do I need to train 6 months for that?
I cant get close to anything because the ship is too slow and the targetting range is rediculously low for ranged combat. so I have to fit a target range buff or a speed boost. great. another hit for that "best tank"
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Radioactive Babe
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Posted - 2006.11.26 15:59:00 -
[609]
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo
Originally by: Radioactive Babe
It has the best tank, you want it to have that but be the same as every other command ship damage wise?
the best tank? are you kidding? we need shield extenders which rise signature even more (335 sig with 2), but that is hardly possible with the limited powergrid (710!!!). fitting shield hardeners AND shield extenders is much easier on the tech 1 ships. I have nearly all related skills maxed out and I still have a hard time fitting the ship.
and the other command ships have similar tanking abilities, but MUCH BETTER DPS!
when you dont fly the NH, it is easy to overestimate its capabilities. but with the powergrid so low and the high mass and sluggish speed, it is nothing but a sitting duck which cant kill anything above frig level in PvP. and there are better frig killers out there, so why do I need to train 6 months for that?
I cant get close to anything because the ship is too slow and the targetting range is rediculously low for ranged combat. so I have to fit a target range buff or a speed boost. great. another hit for that "best tank"
I just read that and saw ...
whine whine whine whine hard to fit whine whine want to be able to have best tank and same dps as everything whine whine ... etc etc etc
meh, caldari are never happy unless they have the best 
<nelson>ha, ha</nelson> |
Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 16:04:00 -
[610]
Originally by: Radioactive Babe
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo
Originally by: Radioactive Babe
It has the best tank, you want it to have that but be the same as every other command ship damage wise?
the best tank? are you kidding? we need shield extenders which rise signature even more (335 sig with 2), but that is hardly possible with the limited powergrid (710!!!). fitting shield hardeners AND shield extenders is much easier on the tech 1 ships. I have nearly all related skills maxed out and I still have a hard time fitting the ship.
and the other command ships have similar tanking abilities, but MUCH BETTER DPS!
when you dont fly the NH, it is easy to overestimate its capabilities. but with the powergrid so low and the high mass and sluggish speed, it is nothing but a sitting duck which cant kill anything above frig level in PvP. and there are better frig killers out there, so why do I need to train 6 months for that?
I cant get close to anything because the ship is too slow and the targetting range is rediculously low for ranged combat. so I have to fit a target range buff or a speed boost. great. another hit for that "best tank"
I just read that and saw ...
whine whine whine whine hard to fit whine whine want to be able to have best tank and same dps as everything whine whine ... etc etc etc
meh, caldari are never happy unless they have the best
I am surprised you see it that way. all I can see is:
ME: arguments
YOU: troll
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digitalwanderer
Gallente
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.26 16:09:00 -
[611]
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo
Edited by: Nalshiga Dshoayo on 26/11/2006 15:27:07
Originally by: Radioactive Babe
Edited by: Radioactive Babe on 26/11/2006 15:05:02
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo
Originally by: ookke
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I allready trained to Sleipnir since the Nighthawk is not getting any atention.
linky
Quote:
# Nighthawk's explosion velocity changed to launcher rate of fire bonus
it still does less damage than other command ships, is still slower and is still unusable in PvP. if I could fly any command ship after training for the Nighthawk, it wouldnt be so bad. but I cannot just switch race, so my training time seems to be a waste.
It has the best tank, you want it to have that but be the same as every other command ship damage wise?
<edit, d'oh>
the best tank? are you kidding? we need shield extenders which rise signature even more (335 sig with 2), but that is hardly possible with the limited powergrid (710!!!). fitting shield hardeners AND shield extenders is much easier on the tech 1 ships. I have nearly all related skills maxed out and I still have a hard time fitting the ship.
and the other command ships have similar tanking abilities, but MUCH BETTER DPS!
when you dont fly the NH, it is easy to overestimate its capabilities. but with the powergrid so low and the high mass and sluggish speed, it is nothing but a sitting duck which cant kill anything above frig level in PvP. and there are better frig killers out there, so why do I need to train 6 months for that?
I cant get close to anything because the ship is too slow and the targetting range is rediculously low for ranged combat. so I have to fit a target range buff or a speed boost. great. another hit for that "best tank"
Really,then why did i manage to kill an absolution T2 command ship with my nighthawk on the test server?...Here's a tip,heavy assault missiles FTW.
Furthermore,said absolution pilot didn't even get my shields down to 50%...
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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 16:24:00 -
[612]
Originally by: digitalwanderer
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo
Edited by: Nalshiga Dshoayo on 26/11/2006 15:27:07
Really,then why did i manage to kill an absolution T2 command ship with my nighthawk on the test server?...Here's a tip,heavy assault missiles FTW.
Furthermore,said absolution pilot didn't even get my shields down to 50%...
wow.... so 1 experience on a TEST server against ONE pilot who had NOTHING to lose and was probably TESTING as well tells you the NH has no problem?
I bet you that you could have killed that guy in every other wel fit ship as well. you didnt have to use a command ship for which you need 15 times the training time.
I bet you that you could have killed him in a Drake just as well.
which proves my point.
the problem is not, that you cannot win a fight with a NH, the problem is, that it is NOT ANY BETTER than tech 1 ships which require less training, and cost 12 times less. Ferox: 20 mil, NH: 240 mil
of course, you paid only 100isk on the TEST server and that other guy also spent 100isk on his ship. this is not a real(EVE)world situation.
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HyJek
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Posted - 2006.11.27 03:39:00 -
[613]
I wasn't sure if anyone else noticed but on the recently released patch notes, it states that the bonus change may occur in the future (as well as many other changes such as WCS nerf, Warp to 0km, ect ect). So could someone on the dev team shed some light onto when exactly this bonus change will occur and what the chances are of this change not happening?
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ArtemisEntreri
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.27 03:40:00 -
[614]
Originally by: HyJek
I wasn't sure if anyone else noticed but on the recently released patch notes, it states that the bonus change may occur in the future (as well as many other changes such as WCS nerf, Warp to 0km, ect ect). So could someone on the dev team shed some light onto when exactly this bonus change will occur and what the chances are of this change not happening?
tomorrow (Tuesday)
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HyJek
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Posted - 2006.11.27 03:46:00 -
[615]
Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Originally by: HyJek
I wasn't sure if anyone else noticed but on the recently released patch notes, it states that the bonus change may occur in the future (as well as many other changes such as WCS nerf, Warp to 0km, ect ect). So could someone on the dev team shed some light onto when exactly this bonus change will occur and what the chances are of this change not happening?
tomorrow (Tuesday)
That's not what I mean...if you look at the patch notes it states that the bonus will NOT be included tomorrow, and that it may be added in the future.
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ArtemisEntreri
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:18:00 -
[616]
Edited by: ArtemisEntreri on 27/11/2006 04:23:02
Edited by: ArtemisEntreri on 27/11/2006 04:18:57
Originally by: HyJek
Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Originally by: HyJek
I wasn't sure if anyone else noticed but on the recently released patch notes, it states that the bonus change may occur in the future (as well as many other changes such as WCS nerf, Warp to 0km, ect ect). So could someone on the dev team shed some light onto when exactly this bonus change will occur and what the chances are of this change not happening?
tomorrow (Tuesday)
That's not what I mean...if you look at the patch notes it states that the bonus will NOT be included tomorrow, and that it may be added in the future.
err..... oh I see
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HyJek
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Posted - 2006.11.27 22:04:00 -
[617]
So could a dev fill us in on when this change will happen?
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Talmssar
Caldari
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:26:00 -
[618]
Originally by: HyJek
So could a dev fill us in on when this change will happen?
No
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Judas Jones
Amarr
Black Company
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:28:00 -
[619]
Originally by: Talmssar
Originally by: HyJek
So could a dev fill us in on when this change will happen?
No
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