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Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.04.20 18:27:00 - [301] well there is nothing more to say really, iss has broken their own charter with this intrusion. "We brake for nobody"
Ikvar	Posted - 2006.04.20 18:40:00 - [302] Originally by: Karash Amerius Yesterday, the OEC engaged and helped destroy an ISS Brutix Originally by: xsolarisx eve-online takes money out my credit card each month without my permission
Chain Gang	Posted - 2006.04.20 18:55:00 - [303] Quote: well there is nothing more to say really, iss has broken their own charter with this intrusion. Sorry chaters don't cover ..... we may want the whole of providence.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.04.20 18:57:00 - [304] Edited by: Maya Rkell on 20/04/2006 18:56:40 Originally by: Sushi Tanaka Seems like a war dec is the only way to prove that you're serious. CVA's demand of starbase removal was met with outright defiance by ISS, which seems in violation of thier charter. Originally by: ISS Charter 0.0 region access terms - All member corporations are to respect the terms under which they gain access to 0.0 space under host alliances. Precisely. This space was "unclaimed" under the agreement between ISS and the CVA, and thus not subject to that clause, given there was no "host alliance". Or, in other words, the CVA are being their usual bigoted pig-dog selves and making smash and run power grabs at the least opportunity, taking delight in preying on a civilian power which was following what they believed to be the agreement. "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2006.04.20 19:03:00 - [305] Originally by: Maya Rkell Precisely. This space was "unclaimed" under the agreement between ISS and the CVA, and thus not subject to that clause, given there was no "host alliance". Or, in other words, the CVA are being their usual bigoted pig-dog selves and making smash and run power grabs at the least opportunity, taking delight in preying on a civilian power which was following what they believed to be the agreement. oh, so finally Jericho Fraktion has found this thread. Of course they know EXACTLY what happened (even as ISS officials commited there has been a misunderstanding on their part) and now gives good advice.. thanks you.. ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.
Tharrn	Posted - 2006.04.20 19:04:00 - [306] Probably looking for a reason to chime in. Now recruiting!
Tana Quil	Posted - 2006.04.20 19:25:00 - [307] Edited by: Tana Quil on 20/04/2006 19:25:30 CVA should declare against ISS if they refuse to cancel their new outpost. CVA beliefs have held strong in the past and im sure they will now, as for mercs going into the lower domain and providence region to aid ISS i can tell you now ONLY The Priory play there and we will move back to the area and personally remove any mercs.
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.04.20 19:34:00 - [308] Enough people are posting in this thred, which serves as nothing but a public henhouse. We have minor pilots and self-appointed representants from all sides participating, further inflaming the situation to a point where nothing can be solved between the parties. Know this, that nothing said in this thred further will aid anything but in the destruction and loss of property for all sides involved. It is in neither ISS' nor in CVA's best interest to continue this thred as both parties agree, at the very least, that stability is necessary in the region. Know that negotiations must be held privately where yields, admittances, and offers of appeasement can be dealt without the loss of percieved honour in the public eye. Know that this public discussion has run it's course, regardless of the outcome of continued private discussions - be it war or be it peace. Those of you who wish to destabilize the region, and aid the unlawful elements in both Providence and Catch, will continue posting. Your side matters little, your stance less. You will all aid terrorist elements by keeping this discussion alive, here, where it do not belong. I will see ISS' enemies on the field of battle, and I will wish those not oposing ISS good health and prosperity. Latest EVE musing (MC-boards)
Kular	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:07:00 - [309] ISS back down on this, CVA might be making "rediculus claims", but you agreed to those, and your entire alliances basis is on maintaning neutrallity for all of EVE. If you still want to maintain that, then you would simply admit you we're wrong and take down those POS. I am still hopeful that the leaders of ISS will come to their sinces and not continue this abuse of power. I can say that for now AM will remain neutral while operating in providence unless we are fired on first, but time will tell if this might change. www.AegisMilitia.com For God, Empire, and Sarum!
M00dy	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:15:00 - [310] Edited by: M00dy on 20/04/2006 20:15:51 ISSN Recruitment Thread

GoGo Yubari	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:11:00 - [311] Originally by: Ztang Canary Quote: The MC will do nothing to further inflame this situation. As if you havent done enough, and by the looks of it, continue to do so. Every word uttered here by MC seems to indicate you have an active interest in this, far removed from being a mere "hired help". I believe my superior officers already alluded to the fact, but let me reiterate. Here, the MC is speaking against hostilities with CVA not because of some hidden ulterior motives, but simply because several former members of CVA are amongst our number. We know very well the bonds of brotherhood that form between people who fight together for mutual goals and our leadership shows great respect towards their captains by going so far in trying to prevent a situation which is potentially uncomfortable for both sides.
Gaven Lok'ri	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:26:00 - [312] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 20/04/2006 21:28:57 It is a dissapointment to see people who should be working together to bring much needed stability to fringe bickering amongst eachother over what seems to be a semantics argument. I would also ask for those former PIE members who have become mercenaries to remember their old loyalties, to Remember that they are Amarr adn that their most valuable work has been for God and not ISK. I would hope that should things come to war in this situation that those warriors for God might remember this, and remember their souls. It would be a shame indeed to see them undo the good they have done for their souls in service to Amarr for the sake of ISK. Instead I would ask that you, those former servants of Amarr, work to defuse this war. Work to make peace and not bloodshed for Amarrians and in doing so serve Amarr as mercenaries if you chose to no longer work as its servants. God is with us. PIE Website
Ka'lorn Font'a	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:42:00 - [313] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 20/04/2006 21:35:51 Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 20/04/2006 21:28:57 It is a dissapointment to see people who should be working together to bring much needed stability to fringe bickering amongst eachother over what seems to be a semantics argument. I would also ask for those former PIE members who have become mercenaries to remember their old loyalties, to Remember that they are Amarr adn that their most valuable work has been for God and not ISK. I would hope that should things come to war in this situation that those warriors for God might remember this, and remember their souls. It would be a shame indeed to see them undo the good they have done for their souls in service to Amarr for the sake of ISK. Instead I would ask that you, those former servants of Amarr, work to defuse this war. Work to make peace and not bloodshed for Amarrians and in doing so serve Amarr as mercenaries if you chose to no longer work as its servants. Just do not damn your souls by the killing of still loyal supporters of Amarr. Admiral Lok'ri, as previously stated, both Admiral Trevize and myself wish a peaceful resolution to this matter. Vice Admiral Caya also has expressed wishes for a swift, blood-free resolution. Let differences be put aside, to work against the common evil that is pirates in Providence, not alliances which should be friendly.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:44:00 - [314] Would would ISS, a civilian entity formed of pilots from every Empire want to work with a Paramilitari, Amarian reactionaist entity? The idea they have something in common is laughable. "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
Sushi Tanaka	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:44:00 - [315] Originally by: Ithildin We have minor pilots and self-appointed representants from all sides participating, further inflaming the situation to a point where nothing can be solved between the parties. Mr. Kettle? Mr. Pot called, he said "you're black!"
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:54:00 - [316] Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 20/04/2006 21:44:32 Would would ISS, a civilian entity formed of pilots from every Empire want to work with a Paramilitary, Amarian reactionaist entity? The idea they have something in common is laughable. there we go, the gasoline squad known as jf is rolling again... for your info... if ISS really IS neutral, that means they WONT interfer with the politics or political views of the various alliances. ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.
The Cosmopolite	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:06:00 - [317] Jericho Fraction Official Position We see no profit to anyone in this war as it happens. We said so long before you turned up in this thread so take your irrational hatreds elsewhere. The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:14:00 - [318] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction Official Position We see no profit to anyone in this war as it happens. We said so long before you turned up in this thread so take your irrational hatreds elsewhere. The Cosmopolite i can accept that positon... as for the irational hatred though... Originally by: "Maya Rkell" Or, in other words, the CVA are being their usual bigoted pig-dog selves and making smash and run power grabs at the least opportunity, taking delight in preying on a civilian power which was following what they believed to be the agreement. Originally by: "Maya Rkell" Would would ISS, a civilian entity formed of pilots from every Empire want to work with a Paramilitary, Amarian reactionaist entity?. your Fraction of course is free of that, yes? ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:19:00 - [319] Free of what, precisely? Free of having to waste force protecting "borders"? Yea. "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:32:00 - [320] Originally by: Maya Rkell Free of what, precisely? Free of having to waste force protecting "borders"? Yea. common sense dictates not posting on the forum under crash and/or frentix intoxication.... it would spare you the embarrasment of having to ask silly questions like the above. ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.

Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:33:00 - [321] Common sense would dictate that you never bothered to define the question. I'm guessing Blue Pill. "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:37:00 - [322] Manfred Doomhammer looks surprised you do not even know WHAT you are taking?! of course that would explain a lot... ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:42:00 - [323] Snort. Or maybe you're just using endorphin-X "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:49:00 - [324] well.. you can never know if i am doing or if its just your drug intoxication making you think i do... scary, huh? ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.04.20 23:38:00 - [325] Amusing to see Maya sticking her oar in where it is least needed as usual. If ISS and CVA get into a fight over something as trivial as this we're going to come over and blow you both back to the stoneage just for the laughs by the way Eve Blacklight Style
Bhaal	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:04:00 - [326] I read this entire f'ing thread... What a waste of time... Grow up... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Princess Morenta	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:34:00 - [327] Edited by: Princess Morenta on 21/04/2006 00:39:52 Edited by: Princess Morenta on 21/04/2006 00:36:14 Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Princess Morenta CVA did all they could for a peaceful resolution... Your attitude saddens me old friend. I do not know you and neither am I your friend. My original questions to CVA still stand blatently unaswered. Oh but you do and you was... Just like your using your guise - Im using mine, We cant have the ISSN Director grilling CVA with his main now can we? Wouldnt express well for the ISS either... Just for the same reason I use my own guise to post my views - to avoid any blame on my corp for my own views. Thank you Originally by: Ender Andrews Originally by: O Thief Anyway - why is this system so important to you (worth fighting a war over) Might I inqure why the ISS are so very keen on keeping this system if it holds no value for them? And who are you, mr Thief? You speak for the managment of ISS? You seem to be the most active pilot here. grins It is amazing feat how very good people are geting at clouding threads, such as these. Good job, In the inital 4 pages I really thought CVA was at fault... Now im convinced its ISS. So, why do you insist on keeping that system if you are the peaceloving people you are? - These are my opinons and questions, and no way related to my corp or alliance. It is the alt of Butter dog - ISSN Navy director thats why Originally by: Butter Dog 2006.04.20 15:11 Curatores Veritatis Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Starbase Syndicate. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. ----------------- Please disregard my previous post stating that CVA are not valid targets for the ISSN. Given this development, they now have permission to actively engage. Though I hope diplomacy still wins, I really do. To my friends in the CVA, and organisations friendly to them (you know who you are) - you have my utmost respect and it will be 'interesting' being on the other side of your lasers, to say the least. I only hope this situation is quickly resolved by the diplomats, as I shall take no pleasure fighting CVA. Bull**** you've just contradicted it with your alt...
xHjfx	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:44:00 - [328] Edited by: xHjfx on 21/04/2006 00:52:17 Originally by: Vincent Gaines CVA knew we would not shoot first in any non-war declared relationship. They knew that yesterday when this started. I believe there was a rush to war without enough diplomacy, and I'm sad to have recieved news of the war declaration. Enemies of stability and progress are rejoicing right now. These views are my own, not official. Just my two piece in the matter... Why did ISSN send a frigate taskforce into CVA space then? That wasnt an act of peace, that was an act of war... even before any official declaration.
insanebe	Posted - 2006.04.21 02:56:00 - [329] 2006.04.20 15:11 Curatores Veritatis Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Starbase Syndicate. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. they gank'd industrials and we responded we DID NOT fire the first shot knowledge is power.... guard it well
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2006.04.21 03:03:00 - [330] Golan Trevize is the finest example of what Amarr should be I have ever encountered, anyone who would question his loyalty to the Empire is an ignorant fool. http://eve.klaki.net/



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