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Aralis
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Posted - 2006.04.19 04:58:00 -
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ISS have invaded CVA space and placed several large pos over 2 systems. Direct contact having failed to receive any responses recently you are hereby given 24 hours notice to respond and commence withdrawal or war will automatically commence.
I'm surprised that this should be necessary. ISS asked for the definition of our space and were given it back around the end of February. A previous intrusion into our space was peacefully dealt with - to be almost immediately followed by this one. However having had no responses to my mails about this this is your last warning.
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Eric carr
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Posted - 2006.04.19 06:26:00 -
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kill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Det e helt sjukt, det enda min CEO Shandra vill e att fs mig i sSng... Vet inte hur lSnge jag kan klara denna frestelse |
Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.19 07:20:00 -
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Hopefully they see this post.
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Blood Gutter
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Posted - 2006.04.19 08:02:00 -
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Who? Where?
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:17:00 -
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We had detailed discussions with CVA - you were asked for your borders, and the POS were then placed OUTSIDE the borders you gave us!
Also Count has been speaking to you regularly about this, so to claim we are not speaking to you is, quite frankly, a lie. I don't know why you would claim that.
Nonetheless, I'm sure the issue can be resolved to your satisfaction quickly - though Count isnt online at the moment, I'll drop him a PM to ask him to contact you ASAP.
Still, your approach to this is quite strange considering how we have consulted with CVA regarding this. And as I mentioned the POS were placed outside the borders you gave us.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 19/04/2006 09:20:47
Aralis, the MC represenative you spoke with last night stands ready to assist in the mediation of this matter to help achieve a peaceful resolution should the CVA wish it.
Violence is the last path you should want to pursue. I strongly urge you to reconsider this stance.
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solidshot
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: solidshot on 19/04/2006 09:25:43
Edited by: solidshot on 19/04/2006 09:25:17
 Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 19/04/2006 09:20:47
Aralis, the MC represenative you spoke with last night stands ready to assist in the mediation of this matter to help achieve a peaceful resolution should the CVA wish it.
Violence is the last path you should want to pursue. I strongly urge you to reconsider this stance.
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Acron Ishtal
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Acron Ishtal on 19/04/2006 09:29:22
Edited by: Acron Ishtal on 19/04/2006 09:28:12
Let me clear up a few of your misconceptions here:
Originally by: Butter Dog
We had detailed discussions with CVA - you were asked for your borders, and the POS were then placed OUTSIDE the borders you gave us!
Obviously someone has their map turned upside down.
Originally by: Butter Dog
Also Count has been speaking to you regularly about this, so to claim we are not speaking to you is, quite frankly, a lie. I don't know why you would claim that.
He didn't claim you hadn't spoken to us at ALL, he claimed that a response to his attempts to contact you over this latest incursion had gone unanswered. Be careful what you insinuate. Aralis is one of the most trustworthy people you will ever deal with. He does NOT lie. To imply that he would, or in your case, straight out call him a liar, is poor form. I do not doubt for a second that what he said is EXACTLY the truth, and that your interpretation of facts is "fuzzy".
Originally by: Butter Dog
Nonetheless, I'm sure the issue can be resolved to your satisfaction quickly - though Count isnt online at the moment, I'll drop him a PM to ask him to contact you ASAP.
Perhaps he'll check his mail this time?
Originally by: Butter Dog
Still, your approach to this is quite strange considering how we have consulted with CVA regarding this. And as I mentioned the POS were placed outside the borders you gave us.
Likewise, your approach to this situation, ie: calling our CEO a liar,
not answering our attempts at communication, placing POSes inside our space... well quite frankly seems like you are the ones having problems constructively approaching this situation.
Seleene:
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 19/04/2006 09:20:47
Aralis, the MC represenative you spoke with last night stands ready to assist in the mediation of this matter to help achieve a peaceful resolution should the CVA wish it.
Violence is the last path you should want to pursue. I strongly urge you to reconsider this stance.
Obviously violence isn't our first choice, or else we would not be warning them that they are pushing us too far. If the ISS can abide by their agreements, then we would have no problem with them. Clearly there is a dispute, and they are not responding. Violence is an unfortunate choice in any situation, but we are running out of options.
(edit: for spelling >.<)
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Acron Ishtal
Perhaps he'll check his mail this time?
He hasnt actually been online for a day or two... I should think thats why.
I have unanswered mail too which i sent to him.
I sent him a PM on the internal forum. I'm sure he'll be in touch as soon as he gets online.
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:32:00 -
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Interesting happenings indeed.
I hope it is just a misunderstanding.
regards, v.Adm. ZoolKhan;
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Lake
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:38:00 -
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While I do not generally involve myself in the main thread of ISS Politics it's clear to me that ISS Leadership has no interest in encroaching on CVA's space (or any sovereign space, for that matter). If we accept that as true then the only conclusion is that this is simply a matter of miscommunication. All we need now is for the right people in CVA to speak to the right people in ISS and the matter will be resolved with no harm done. It's unfortunate CVA had to resort to a public forum post to draw the right attention, but now it's done and I expect the news to spread as needed. Let us 'chill' and allow matters to take their course.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:40:00 -
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Zoolkhan,
I expect this is no misunderstanding. The Amarr consider the whole galaxy to belong to their holy empire. They just allow others to use systems on a temporary basis.
Maggot.
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Acron Ishtal
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Acron Ishtal on 19/04/2006 09:41:55
Originally by: Maggot
Zoolkhan,
I expect this is no misunderstanding. The Amarr consider the whole galaxy to belong to their holy empire. They just allow others to use systems on a temporary basis.
Maggot.
Go find your own place to pee into the wind terrorist. Let those who have some modicum of interest in peace talk without your filth.
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wunhunglo
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:44:00 -
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this isnt the first time the ISS has done this though is it, they did the same to SA and several other alliances i believe?
And to seleene was that suposed to be a subtle hint that you are gonna come running to the ISS's rescue yet again? just like every other time they drop themselves in it
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:48:00 -
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Acron,
Golan Trevize is the MC representative in this matter and he spoke with Aralis last night. He speaks highly of Aralis and, of course, my organization has nothing but respect for the CVA. However, our offer of mediation in this matter is made on behalf of our client, ISS.
Seeing as how we will become involved should the situation worsen, we would prefer to see the situation defused ahead of time. If we can assist in that process, all the better. If not, then I wish you luck in whatever course you decide is appropriate.
Originally by: wunhunglo
And to seleene was that suposed to be a subtle hint that you are gonna come running to the ISS's rescue yet again? just like every other time they drop themselves in it
Over the last year, we have been in the employ of ISS twice for a combined time of less than two weeks. They have proven to be excellent clients who communicate thier desires well and pay thier bills on time. Anything else is pure speculation.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:01:00 -
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This is not a time for Amarrian arrogance. I would strongly advise you to come to an agreement with ISS over the next few days.
As for us running to help ISS again, we havent even done it once. As Seleene says, we have been employed by ISS twice, both for fairly short amounts of time (one being the Borealis deployment). They are a good client and should they wish to employ us again im sure we can work a contract out.
As for the topic at hand, playing the "war" card wont get you very far this time
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:10:00 -
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I just wish to clarify an important point here.
Having looked through some of the documentation we have, we were given a list of systems CVA planned to expand to, and we carefully avoided these systems, as we promised we would.
The systems we have placed POS in are, quite categorically, not on that list.
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Sidyous
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Sidyous on 19/04/2006 10:29:50
Originally by: Eyeshadow
This is not a time for Amarrian arrogance. I would strongly advise you to come to an agreement with ISS over the next few days.
As for us running to help ISS again, we havent even done it once. As Seleene says, we have been employed by ISS twice, both for fairly short amounts of time (one being the Borealis deployment). They are a good client and should they wish to employ us again im sure we can work a contract out.
As for the topic at hand, playing the "war" card wont get you very far this time
Eyeshadow,
I do hope for a peaceful solution to this and i'm sure when Aralis wakes up he can discuss it. Your attempts to threaten us are not exactly helping matters, you know we can't be bullied by mercenaries even if you do have 'Frickin' laser beams (I personally prefer a nice Tachyon Beam Laser 2). We do expect answers when we ask for them directly and as it took so long the public announcement was the way to get the attention to our requests that we asked for and guess what, it worked. For now I think the best course of action is to stop flogging mud and wait for the diplomats to decide where things went wrong.
Regards
Sidyous
CEO
Auctoritan Syndicate
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Maggot
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:42:00 -
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Acron Ishtal,
Interest in peace! I admit that I have no interest in peace until every last slave is free. However this is a bit rich coming from an organisation that blasted a college facility into atoms.
Maggot.
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Acron Ishtal
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:49:00 -
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Hardly surprising Maggot. Your penchant for distorting facts isn't limited to your own actions. As I said before, we're all better off if you just keep your mouth shut and mind your own. Perhaps you can get back to rebuilding your terrorist training camp?
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TFH AGONY
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:01:00 -
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Well Aralis you have messaged me about this before. we had our docking rights removed and delt with your ignorance, we complied and took everything down. we also talked with count to resolve this and yet everything was solved until now. You even b$tched out 3 of our haulers in your system, you undocked a zealot and threatened to pop a corpmate in a rifter.
I don't think there is enough time in the day to deal with your ego. we have ignored all of your whinning and left it up to you and count. We will not back down nor will we leave. I will make note of this as my corp. This is not a very wise move, many other corps in these areas will not take to this. The choice is yours, Count and Mongo have spoken with you. I have copies of those eve mails. lie all you wish. You have been notified. Take it up with count for the 900th time.
I told you before If my corp is in the wrong we will leave, if you had a problem with my corp to talk to me aswel you have done neither. all you have done is threaten us, We have done everything we can to avoid this. There is nothing more we can do! This is between you and ISS resolve it!
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 19/04/2006 11:00:49
Originally by: Sidyous
Eyeshadow,
I do hope for a peaceful solution to this and i'm sure when Aralis wakes up he can discuss it. Your attempts to threaten us are not exactly helping matters, you know we can't be bullied by mercenaries even if you do have 'Frickin' laser beams (I personally prefer a nice Tachyon Beam Laser 2). We do expect answers when we ask for them directly and as it took so long the public announcement was the way to get the attention to our requests that we asked for and guess what, it worked. For now I think the best course of action is to stop flogging mud and wait for the diplomats to decide where things went wrong.
Regards
Sidyous
CEO
Auctoritan Syndicate
You misunderstand my post, good sir. It was not meant as a threat or bullying. I am a man of war, it is true, but id still rather limit my targets to persons of less "honourable" (so to speak, the amarr empire means nothing to me unless they pay me to do something) backgrounds, namely pirates and those rogues in the Curse Coalition and Centre for Disease Creation.
If we can hold hold fire against each other id prefer that. However, dont assume i wont call you primary. The client's wishes are of primary concern. If he tells us to shoot CVA pilots, we will, id just prefer it if we didnt have to, especially over some arrogant claim on a system you have little interest in
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:05:00 -
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Keep going CVA as I'm sure the ISS would like another Free Outpost.
As far as I can see ... you sent a list of claimed systems, the ISS avoided all these and
now your changing you mind shouting "I want that one", "and that one" and "that one".
You had a long convo with Mongo Peck (I didn't think he had a diplomatic bone in his body) and
things were sorted out. Now your running to the boards like a bunch of Newbs. Either keep quiet,
act like men and speak to the ISS or I'll ask Mongo to have another on way chat.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Khaldorn Murino on 19/04/2006 11:12:31
Originally by: Acron Ishtal
Hardly surprising Maggot. Your penchant for distorting facts isn't limited to your own actions. As I said before, we're all better off if you just keep your mouth shut and mind your own. Perhaps you can get back to rebuilding your terrorist training camp?
Watch your tounge you slaver scum. You will not threaten our leader, you are unworthy even to address him. Besides, your expansionist desires in 'the name of the Empire' are well known.
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o'niel
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:21:00 -
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why is MC getting involved ? your a merc alliance not diplomats for ISS or is there more than meets the eye ?
seleene & co getting all hot n bothered ,you should careless for what is happening between CVA and ISS unless your gonna get employed by ISS ...
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Odarin
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: o'niel
why is MC getting involved ? your a merc alliance not diplomats for ISS or is there more than meets the eye ?
seleene & co getting all hot n bothered ,you should careless for what is happening between CVA and ISS unless your gonna get employed by ISS ...
Maybe you should read _all_ the posts before adding your commments. Refer to post #15.
-Oda
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Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:46:00 -
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Aralis,
As you noted, We agreed the boundaries back in February, inclusive of expansion plans for systems that CVA laid no claim to at the time. We have honoured these to-date despite it's marked absence from the Territorial Map 2 months later.
ISS had hoped that quick resolution of the last matter would clearly demonstrate our open and willingness to honor the agreement with CVA and resolve any future issues, should they arise.
If you feel that the time-frame of response is too short from Count, you're welcome to email me. I'll Evemail you my RL email address when DT is over and we can setup a time to talk.
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:42:00 -
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Should it come to blows, my old friends in CVA will not be alone.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:57:00 -
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^^ Who cares
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zooish
^^ Who cares
Given the sheer volume of replies...I would imagine the answer is "lots of people". A conflict like this would change the whole region, in my opinion for the better.
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