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Termanator	Posted - 2006.04.19 17:16:00 - [61] Center For Disease Creation, Can only Wish CVA the Best of Luck in there "Quest" to Try and make ISS look small on the Public Forums . I Thank Butter Dog for his kind words About us and wish them the best of luck. We as an alliance have no intrest in this Post OR of its outcome so all this CDC Blah Blah. To post with Alts there is really no need post with your mains. As for EyeShadow I respect your views of us, but we cant help being a good opponent GL Guys have fun The Priory Director
Lt Hole	Posted - 2006.04.19 18:00:00 - [62] Originally by: Butter Dog I was merely highlighting the difference in CC and CDC approach. CC = forum flame against ISS, spout crap trying to justify their lack of diplomatic skills, penchant for hauler ganking then claim its all about 'anti-imperialism' etc etc CDC = straight talking 0.0 pvpers who kill us for fun Who would you respect more? Not a hard question to answer - but even so I'll provide a hint: not CC. Translation: "You make us look bad so we hate you more." Cool! Thanks for the compliment!
Lt Hole	Posted - 2006.04.19 18:06:00 - [63] Originally by: Eyeshadow You misunderstand my post, good sir. It was not meant as a threat or bullying. I am a man of war, it is true, but id still rather limit my targets to persons of less "honourable" (so to speak, the amarr empire means nothing to me unless they pay me to do something) backgrounds, namely pirates and those rogues in the Curse Coalition and Centre for Disease Creation. Hey! I'm a ROGUE! Yehaaa!!!
Termanator	Posted - 2006.04.19 18:12:00 - [64] Dude put a sock in it. The Priory Director
Lt Hole	Posted - 2006.04.19 18:24:00 - [65] Originally by: Termanator Dude put a sock in it. Orders received and understood!
samba mk2	Posted - 2006.04.19 19:13:00 - [66] let the best side win or sort it diplomaticaly and lt hole u make yourself look bad
4th Dominion	Posted - 2006.04.19 19:17:00 - [67] U show them Butter, who the real power in the region is.
maGz	Posted - 2006.04.19 19:22:00 - [68] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Lt Hole Divide and conquer. Nice try. I wonder if it will work? I was merely highlighting the difference in CC and CDC approach. CC = forum flame against ISS, spout crap trying to justify their lack of diplomatic skills, penchant for hauler ganking then claim its all about 'anti-imperialism' etc etc CDC = straight talking 0.0 pvpers who kill us for fun Who would you respect more? Not a hard question to answer - but even so I'll provide a hint: not CC. <3 Butter... Thanks for the kind words m8, reminds that I've didn't get my usual quota of ISS-corpses this month ______________________
Count TaSessine	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:00:00 - [69] Sorry about this late reply from me, but I've quite literally been in my deathbed, it felt like it anyway, with a throat infection these last 24 hours Regrettably, this incident is a direct result of misunderstanding due to communication from Aralis. Despite a request for specific systems and constellations, the only information ISS received from Aralis on the CVA planned future expansion was the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10.' By placing POS in 3KB-10//Q-6LGI we have honoured Aralis and CVA's initial request and chosen POS Placements and access routes that do not include the area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. CVA have not previously laid claim to this area through any recognisable means: - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans include 3KB-10 - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans to include Q-6LGI constellation - Not claimed the area on the territorial map - Not claimed soverignty using POS in the constellation in question - Not claimed sovreighty using pos even the neighbouring constellation Therefore ISS cannot reasonably recognise CVA's alleged future expansion plan to include these systems. ISS will continue to honor the agreement to stay out of the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. If CVA properly claim the area on the Territorial map or claim sovereignty, ISS will cease placing POS in other systems in the Q-6LGI constellation. Chairman, ISS
Aralis	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:16:00 - [70] Thank you for your response and sympathies on your illness. Obviously this is unsatisfactory and means war starting now. I would say in passing that I find the extent of your confusion over our claim bizarre - when it is actually clear. You say we claim out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10 (correctly). And yet do not regard 3kb-10 as part of our claim. War is on. Originally by: Count TaSessine Sorry about this late reply from me, but I've quite literally been in my deathbed, it felt like it anyway, with a throat infection these last 24 hours Regrettably, this incident is a direct result of misunderstanding due to communication from Aralis. Despite a request for specific systems and constellations, the only information ISS received from Aralis on the CVA planned future expansion was the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10.' By placing POS in 3KB-10//Q-6LGI we have honoured Aralis and CVA's initial request and chosen POS Placements and access routes that do not include the area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. CVA have not previously laid claim to this area through any recognisable means: - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans include 3KB-10 - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans to include Q-6LGI constellation - Not claimed the area on the territorial map - Not claimed soverignty using POS in the constellation in question - Not claimed sovreighty using pos even the neighbouring constellation Therefore ISS cannot reasonably recognise CVA's alleged future expansion plan to include these systems. ISS will continue to honor the agreement to stay out of the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. If CVA properly claim the area on the Territorial map or claim sovereignty, ISS will cease placing POS in other systems in the Q-6LGI constellation.

Darkcor	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:37:00 - [71] It is now quite evident it was quite blatant trickery on the part ISS trying to claim systems that weren't theirs. ISS has now no sense of neutrality now that they are against all that is good and holy of the Empire. ISS has taken sides, and now to true warrior of the empire will rest until ISS is wiped off the map. Any enemy of CVA is an enemy of the Amarrian empire. This is the beginning of the end of ISS.
Ikvar	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:41:00 - [72] Originally by: Aralis Thank you for your response and sympathies on your illness. Obviously this is unsatisfactory and means war starting now. I would say in passing that I find the extent of your confusion over our claim bizarre - when it is actually clear. You say we claim out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10 (correctly). And yet do not regard 3kb-10 as part of our claim. War is on. Originally by: Count TaSessine Sorry about this late reply from me, but I've quite literally been in my deathbed, it felt like it anyway, with a throat infection these last 24 hours Regrettably, this incident is a direct result of misunderstanding due to communication from Aralis. Despite a request for specific systems and constellations, the only information ISS received from Aralis on the CVA planned future expansion was the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10.' By placing POS in 3KB-10//Q-6LGI we have honoured Aralis and CVA's initial request and chosen POS Placements and access routes that do not include the area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. CVA have not previously laid claim to this area through any recognisable means: - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans include 3KB-10 - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans to include Q-6LGI constellation - Not claimed the area on the territorial map - Not claimed soverignty using POS in the constellation in question - Not claimed sovreighty using pos even the neighbouring constellation Therefore ISS cannot reasonably recognise CVA's alleged future expansion plan to include these systems. ISS will continue to honor the agreement to stay out of the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. If CVA properly claim the area on the Territorial map or claim sovereignty, ISS will cease placing POS in other systems in the Q-6LGI constellation. Originally by: xsolarisx eve-online takes money out my credit card each month without my permission
Chain Gang	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:42:00 - [73] Quote: Thank you for your response and sympathies on your illness. Obviously this is unsatisfactory and means war starting now. I would say in passing that I find the extent of your confusion over our claim bizarre - when it is actually clear. You say we claim out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10 (correctly). And yet do not regard 3kb-10 as part of our claim. War is on. As if you weren't looking for it ....... You wanted war and tried to hatch some stupid plot to justify it...
Petrus Sednanref	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:44:00 - [74] I think the real difference is about the interpretation of the following: ISS - area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10' CVA - area including f-yh5b and 3kb-10 It really is a misunderstanding, that now CVA doesn't want to admit. Originally by: Aralis Thank you for your response and sympathies on your illness. Obviously this is unsatisfactory and means war starting now. I would say in passing that I find the extent of your confusion over our claim bizarre - when it is actually clear. You say we claim out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10 (correctly). And yet do not regard 3kb-10 as part of our claim. War is on. Originally by: Count TaSessine Sorry about this late reply from me, but I've quite literally been in my deathbed, it felt like it anyway, with a throat infection these last 24 hours Regrettably, this incident is a direct result of misunderstanding due to communication from Aralis. Despite a request for specific systems and constellations, the only information ISS received from Aralis on the CVA planned future expansion was the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10.' By placing POS in 3KB-10//Q-6LGI we have honoured Aralis and CVA's initial request and chosen POS Placements and access routes that do not include the area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. CVA have not previously laid claim to this area through any recognisable means: - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans include 3KB-10 - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans to include Q-6LGI constellation - Not claimed the area on the territorial map - Not claimed soverignty using POS in the constellation in question - Not claimed sovreighty using pos even the neighbouring constellation Therefore ISS cannot reasonably recognise CVA's alleged future expansion plan to include these systems. ISS will continue to honor the agreement to stay out of the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. If CVA properly claim the area on the Territorial map or claim sovereignty, ISS will cease placing POS in other systems in the Q-6LGI constellation.
Ka'lorn Font'a	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:45:00 - [75] I find it amusing, yet at the same time, annoying. Such a 'minor' dispute should be resolved in private, not over public comms channels and the FTL Network. This should be done behind closed doors, and the result should not be war. As I recall, from my past, the CVA's original claim in Providence was the 'prosperity and open access' to those whom don't pirate (again, as I recall). It seems a somewhat contradiction that one of the most 'neutral' alliances in the game is, apparently, 'forbidden' access to the area. I speak as my own, and as a friend Aralis - War is not the course of action you seek.
Witch Doctor	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:46:00 - [76] I was about to put down my popcorn on page 2, but now ... [moves off-vid to reach for another bag]
Reash	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:46:00 - [77] Originally by: Petrus Sednanref I think the real difference is about the interpretation of the following: ISS - area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10' CVA - area including f-yh5b and 3kb-10 It really is a misunderstanding, that now CVA doesn't want to admit. Originally by: Aralis Thank you for your response and sympathies on your illness. Obviously this is unsatisfactory and means war starting now. I would say in passing that I find the extent of your confusion over our claim bizarre - when it is actually clear. You say we claim out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10 (correctly). And yet do not regard 3kb-10 as part of our claim. War is on. Originally by: Count TaSessine Sorry about this late reply from me, but I've quite literally been in my deathbed, it felt like it anyway, with a throat infection these last 24 hours Regrettably, this incident is a direct result of misunderstanding due to communication from Aralis. Despite a request for specific systems and constellations, the only information ISS received from Aralis on the CVA planned future expansion was the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10.' By placing POS in 3KB-10//Q-6LGI we have honoured Aralis and CVA's initial request and chosen POS Placements and access routes that do not include the area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. CVA have not previously laid claim to this area through any recognisable means: - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans include 3KB-10 - Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans to include Q-6LGI constellation - Not claimed the area on the territorial map - Not claimed soverignty using POS in the constellation in question - Not claimed sovreighty using pos even the neighbouring constellation Therefore ISS cannot reasonably recognise CVA's alleged future expansion plan to include these systems. ISS will continue to honor the agreement to stay out of the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10'. If CVA properly claim the area on the Territorial map or claim sovereignty, ISS will cease placing POS in other systems in the Q-6LGI constellation. I'm sure sure CVA understands its a mis understanding....its the refual to rectify the misunderstanding that CVA has a problem with.
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:55:00 - [78] Although we have accepted some of these enslavers of my people into our fold, I have long been telling Seleene that they can not be trusted and they speak with forked toungues Perhaps now you will listen to me Seleene? -------------------------------------------------
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:39:00 - [79] So, is the final word on the matter that CVA will be shooting ISS? We have a clear policy on not shooting first. We would be saddened if we had to treat people with whom we had cordial relations as we would a pirate organisation. Perhaps it would be worth being careful that no hostilities were exchanged until there were some clarity that the situation could not be resolved in a satisfactory fashion? -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
Princess Morenta	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:40:00 - [80] Edited by: Princess Morenta on 19/04/2006 21:40:41 Originally by: Ka'lorn Font'a I find it amusing, yet at the same time, annoying. Such a 'minor' dispute should be resolved in private, not over public comms channels and the FTL Network. This should be done behind closed doors, and the result should not be war. As I recall, from my past, the CVA's original claim in Providence was the 'prosperity and open access' to those whom don't pirate (again, as I recall). It seems a somewhat contradiction that one of the most 'neutral' alliances in the game is, apparently, 'forbidden' access to the area. I speak as my own, and as a friend Aralis - War is not the course of action you seek. Err the neutrality of ISS went out of the window when they climbed into bed with BOB and started becoming lackeys to the alliances..... Whats so Neutral about ISS is the fact they are like ****s - they will sleep with any alliance to achieve their goals. TRUST Were in fact neutral, its a shame their outpost was forced to change hands to these asshats.

Kular	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:41:00 - [81] At this time I would implore ISS to stick to their neutrality which as come into question lately and pull out of 3kb-10 as was previously requested! There could still be a chance of preventing this disaster! www.AegisMilitia.com For God, Empire, and Sarum!
Chain Gang	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:42:00 - [82] Quote: Err the neutrality of ISS went out of the window when they climbed into bed with BOB and started becoming lackeys to the alliances..... And don't forget .... they are G's Trust military wing and sleep with GM's.. Get Real ..... the CVA wanted a fight and instead of just sending Count an Eve mail they ran to the boards to try and justify it ...
Reash	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:42:00 - [83] Edited by: Reash on 19/04/2006 21:43:01 Originally by: James Lyrus So, is the final word on the matter that CVA will be shooting ISS? We have a clear policy on not shooting first. We would be saddened if we had to treat people with whom we had cordial relations as we would a pirate organisation. Perhaps it would be worth being careful that no hostilities were exchanged until there were some clarity that the situation could not be resolved in a satisfactory fashion? Several ISS ships have already been destroyed, the choice was yours and you picked war. Quote: War is on. The boss has spoken
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:44:00 - [84] I think there is a general consensus that CVA were looking for a war. While I can say with certainty that my alliance avoids war at all costs, there are only so many times one can dodge a bullet when someone is determined to shoot you. Oh well, see you around CVA. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:51:00 - [85] Oh well, that's a shame. Are you planning to play this out on the Empire front as well? -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
Christa Larne	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:53:00 - [86] /me breaks open a bottle and sits back to watch the destruction of CVA. And ISS, once you have taken over CVA's Outpost at the end of the war, can you please rename it to something sensible - like "Freedom Station"? Thanks. (Awaits orders as to whether Ushra'Khan will be taking part in this glorious debacle.) -----------------------------------------------
Reash	Posted - 2006.04.19 21:54:00 - [87] Originally by: James Lyrus Oh well, that's a shame. Are you planning to play this out on the Empire front as well? Whatever it takes to have you remove your claim on our space.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.04.19 22:02:00 - [88] CVA's stance against our client has been noted. - Who is the MC? Watch!
Nazir alHami	Posted - 2006.04.19 22:02:00 - [89] This is a tragedy. The proximity of CVA space to the ISS project led me to believe that Providence would become an amazing source of wealth and be a model for the development of 0.0. This was, frankly, the worse thing I could have imagine for it, and the outcome will affect my (and undoubtedly a great deal of others') future plans. With hostilities allready underway it is clearly too late for war to be prevented, so I can only hope that this conflict is resolved quickly and with a minimum of loss for both sides.
Thesper	Posted - 2006.04.19 22:05:00 - [90] Originally by: Reash Originally by: James Lyrus Oh well, that's a shame. Are you planning to play this out on the Empire front as well? Whatever it takes to have you remove your claim on our space. Have you tried asking ISS to move the POS yet?



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