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Mr Trouble
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:07:00 -
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To be honest with you, it looks like CVA are trying to look for a fight, either that or they are stupid.
ISS have taken every precaution not to tread on your toes, but you keep changing the goalposts. You tell them you don't claim the space, then after they have put up a POS chain, you change your mind.
You're not exactly treating them fairly, and with all this posturing... Well, all I will say is - be careful what you threaten, and why, because it makes you look unprofessional, especially when you are the ones who keep changing your minds.
The ISS don't all fly haulers you know, think very carefully before wardeccing them about what you are taking on - because it all seems kind of pointless to me.
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Trouble To be honest with you, it looks like CVA are trying to look for a fight, either that or they are stupid.
ISS have taken every precaution not to tread on your toes, but you keep changing the goalposts. You tell them you don't claim the space, then after they have put up a POS chain, you change your mind.
You're not exactly treating them fairly, and with all this posturing... Well, all I will say is - be careful what you threaten, and why, because it makes you look unprofessional, especially when you are the ones who keep changing your minds.
The ISS don't all fly haulers you know, think very carefully before wardeccing them about what you are taking on - because it all seems kind of pointless to me.
I think a more consistent analogy would be that they moved their feet
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:26:00 -
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/me looks at sel and eyes posts and guesses they are very, very, very bored.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:36:00 -
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anyone else notice that ISS is becoming more and more belligerent to other alliances and indeed arrogant in their posting? makes me wonder if their fabled neutrality is indeed beginning to wither...
naw couldn't be, they are spread thin all across the cluster, if they suddenly revealed a non-neutral stance they might jeopardize their ability to survive outside of those alliances they have come to serve so well. though they do have the Mercenary Coalition to rely upon as a combat force (why these mercs are even jumping to their defense, quite nice for contracted mercenaries if you ask me) and ISS seem to be getting along with BoB ever so well lately...
no no, I'm wrong, they wouldn't crap on everything they stand for. I'm just an old paranoid fool. don't listen to me, just because this kind of thing has happened dozens of times in the past doesn't mean it will happen again. If they accidentally placed their stations in CVA space (which has been the same systems for what, a year now?) then it must have been an accident.
I feel much better now, yes ISS in neutral. So how is that Station in Pure-blind working for ya? Did you need someone to repaint the Trust office signs for you? I charge reasonable fees.
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Mr Trouble
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss If they accidentally placed their stations in CVA space (which has been the same systems for what, a year now?) then it must have been an accident.
Can't you read?
ISS didnt 'accidentally' do anything. CVA told them they didn't claim the systems they put POS up in, then they changed their minds.
ISS can hardly be blamed for CVA's rapid changes of heart.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Trouble
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss If they accidentally placed their stations in CVA space (which has been the same systems for what, a year now?) then it must have been an accident.
Can't you read?
ISS didnt 'accidentally' do anything. CVA told them they didn't claim the systems they put POS up in, then they changed their minds.
ISS can hardly be blamed for CVA's rapid changes of heart.
ahem, the entire post was sarcastic
I know they put their POS there on purpose, I was being silly ^_^
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:11:00 -
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Quote: anyone else notice that ISS is becoming more and more belligerent to other alliances and indeed arrogant in their posting? makes me wonder if their fabled neutrality is indeed beginning to wither...
naw couldn't be, they are spread thin all across the cluster, if they suddenly revealed a non-neutral stance they might jeopardize their ability to survive outside of those alliances they have come to serve so well. though they do have the Mercenary Coalition to rely upon as a combat force (why these mercs are even jumping to their defense, quite nice for contracted mercenaries if you ask me) and ISS seem to be getting along with BoB ever so well lately...
no no, I'm wrong, they wouldn't crap on everything they stand for. I'm just an old paranoid fool. don't listen to me, just because this kind of thing has happened dozens of times in the past doesn't mean it will happen again. If they accidentally placed their stations in CVA space (which has been the same systems for what, a year now?) then it must have been an accident.
I feel much better now, yes ISS in neutral. So how is that Station in Pure-blind working for ya? Did you need someone to repaint the Trust office signs for you? I charge reasonable fees.
Statements like this kinda make you look stupid ..... I believe the Outpost was only taken control off with the agreement of Trust.
As for CVA they are acting like children, for months the ISS has asked if it would be "OK" to setup a pos in several locations. Their response "nothing to do with us" .... now they shake their toys and throw their teddy bears.
All I can say is ...... you fire a single bullet and I'm gonna nuke you.
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Manfred Doomhammer
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Manfred Doomhammer on 19/04/2006 14:42:39 well... what really is astounding is the number of experts there are for communications done between CVA and ISS... you keep wondering if the fabled 'Secure Communication' is all that secure...
or might it be there are some people trying to get the attention they would not get in their belt or at their famous gate?
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Kular
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:41:00 -
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What we need is logs and proof from both sides of the original agreement, so it would be quite clear to see which systems we're claimed by CVA soverign or not.
Also I think this issue really came about after ISS took down a POS when asked to for being in the wrong system, then only a few weeks later placed 4 large POS in the very same system. Can anyone verify this from either side?
I agree there is no reason for two great alliances who promote peace to fight each other, but do not mistake CVA's intensions they do not make false moves for greed, if CVA says ISS has errored then I am sure there was some break-down of communication somewhere that indeed caused this error.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Zooish on 19/04/2006 14:48:13 "As an Outsider"
/me looks at the Eve Map = system not claimed.
/me looks at the "Running to the Boards Post" instead of contacting the ISS = looking for a fight.
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Mr Trouble
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kular What we need is logs and proof from both sides of the original agreement, so it would be quite clear to see which systems we're claimed by CVA soverign or not.
I hardly think two alliances are going to start copying and pasting internal mails onto a public forum, I'm sure they will sort it out between them like grown ups, and let us kids just forum w*h*o*r*e rather than give us the evidence and say 'over to you, the jury!'.
Both ISS and CVA are both peave-promoting, stable alliances. This is clearly the result of a misunderstading, but I have to say CVA's approach is both aggressive and amatuer in nature. You can't keep changing your mind about what space you want to claim AFTER a POS chain has gone up.
And no, we are talking about different systems here - they didn't put them up in the same ones. ISS put POS up outside their claimed space as it shows on the alliance map.
But then I'm sure the MC and ISS Navy won't mind someone else to shoot at if CVA really want to take it that far.
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:11:00 -
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^^ Most sensible post to date ...
CVA get lost and stop forum who-aring
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Kuang
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Kuang on 19/04/2006 15:23:28
Originally by: Eyeshadow This is not a time for Amarrian arrogance. I would strongly advise you to come to an agreement with ISS over the next few days.
As for us running to help ISS again, we havent even done it once. As Seleene says, we have been employed by ISS twice, both for fairly short amounts of time (one being the Borealis deployment). They are a good client and should they wish to employ us again im sure we can work a contract out.
As for the topic at hand, playing the "war" card wont get you very far this time
Personally sounds like ISS is throwing there own " WAR " card ... then again according to Eyeshadow we are just common " Pirates " ( love when people use that word ... almost used as much as bandwagon )
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:24:00 -
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Quote: Personally sounds like ISS is throwing there own " WAR " card ... then again according to Eyeshadow we are just common " Pirates " ( love when people use that word ... almost used as much as bandwagon )
So much for being neutral
Woot didn't take long for CDC to post nothing about nothing ........
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Kuang
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:36:00 -
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Jacob Majestic
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kuang So much for being neutral
ISS has declared the Curse region off-limits to civilian traffic. You and CC continue to disrupt ISS civilian activity outside your claimed space. Either make a claim to Catch or get out of this thread.
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Mr Trouble
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kuang
Personally sounds like ISS is throwing there own " WAR " card ... then again according to Eyeshadow we are just common " Pirates " ( love when people use that word ... almost used as much as bandwagon )
So much for being neutral
Oh look, CDC have joined the fun.
You were later than your usual ISS thread whoring. Standards are slipping.
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Kuang
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Majestic
Originally by: Kuang So much for being neutral
ISS has declared the Curse region off-limits to civilian traffic. You and CC continue to disrupt ISS civilian activity outside your claimed space. Either make a claim to Catch or get out of this thread.
If you didn't want this public you should have left the post alone and done everything internal instead of taking it to " public " forums ... now for the rest you will need to contact the higher ups ... I play the game to shoot things and let others deal with the politics ----------
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Krackerjack
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kuang
If you didn't want this public you should have left the post alone and done everything internal instead of taking it to " public " forums ... now for the rest you will need to contact the higher ups ... I play the game to shoot things and let others deal with the politics
Oh really?
If that were true why are you forum whoring in ISS threads?
Get back to shooty shooty quick, maybe no-one will notice your double-standards.
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wunhunglo
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Majestic
Originally by: Kuang So much for being neutral
ISS has declared the Curse region off-limits to civilian traffic. You and CC continue to disrupt ISS civilian activity outside your claimed space. Either make a claim to Catch or get out of this thread.
the ISS claims the whole curse region now?
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Krackerjack
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: wunhunglo
the ISS claims the whole curse region now?
He just said they declared curse off limits to ISS civilian traffic, so, er... no
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wunhunglo
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Krackerjack
He just said they declared curse off limits to ISS civilian traffic, so, er... no
Well if they dont claim that region what right do they have to declare it off limits?
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patteSatan
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken /me looks at sel and eyes posts and guesses they are very, very, very bored.
down forum *****s! down! sit ! :-d
Hmmm, I remember a "bawking" friend who forum w h o r ed way back??
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Lt Hole
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:20:00 -
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Looks like ISS have made more friends in the Eve universe.
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Jacob Majestic
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Majestic on 19/04/2006 16:30:36
Originally by: wunhunglo
Originally by: Krackerjack
He just said they declared curse off limits to ISS civilian traffic, so, er... no
Well if they dont claim that region what right do they have to declare it off limits?
I'm sorry, I misspoke in my previous statement. What I meant to say was this:
"ISS has declared the Curse region off-limits to ISS civilian traffic. You and CC continue to disrupt ISS civilian activity outside your claimed space. Either make a claim to Catch or get out of this thread."
ISS recognizes CC/CDC's claim to the Curse region as legitimate and has banned ISS civilian traffic in that region. This point has been reinforced through Alliance mail and posts on our internal forums. If CC/CDC want to go that extra step and make a claim on Catch (and I don't mean in a "lol I claim Delve lol" way), then the proper thing to do is to either get your war on or get out. Randomly ganking haulers is a great way to get a good many people mad at you.
This is of course assuming that you were in any way interested in peace in Catch, ever. However, it is clear to basically everyone that your paranoid ISS ramblings are nothing more than a pretense to go shooty shooty at ISS haulers. If this gets your jollies off then by all means collect bad will until you run your formerly proud alliance into the ground. After the dust settles we'll still be in Catch selling stuff to the 99% of EVE that plays by our simple, reasonable rules.
Now, if I remember correctly this thread is about CVA, not CC/CDC. Carry on.
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sb404
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: wunhunglo
Originally by: Krackerjack
He just said they declared curse off limits to ISS civilian traffic, so, er... no
Well if they dont claim that region what right do they have to declare it off limits?
Because since they don't claim the system, they don't want *ISS* civilians to go there and cause more political problems.
---------------------- sb404 Director
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Hole
Looks like ISS have made more friends in the Eve universe.
You can count the number of alliances actively hostile toward us on one deformed hand.
Namely:
* Curse Coalition * CDC <-- the ones we actually respect for being great PvPers and not trying to intellectualise hauler ganks like you guys * And... er... oh, thats its
I'm sure the CVA thing will be resolved diplomatically by those who do that sort of thing.
Of course, CC just hop on *any* thread with ISS in the title, regardless of involvement they may or may not have with the issues at hand.
You really are low-class forum w****s. Sharpen your act up please.
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Jacob Majestic
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog * CDC <-- the ones we actually respect for being great PvPers and not trying to intellectualise hauler ganks like you guys
This is actually a good point. I need to stop referring to CC and CDC in the same breath.
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Lt Hole
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Majestic
Originally by: Butter Dog * CDC <-- the ones we actually respect for being great PvPers and not trying to intellectualise hauler ganks like you guys
This is actually a good point. I need to stop referring to CC and CDC in the same breath.
Divide and conquer.
Nice try.
I wonder if it will work?
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.04.19 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Hole
Divide and conquer.
Nice try.
I wonder if it will work?
I was merely highlighting the difference in CC and CDC approach.
CC = forum flame against ISS, spout crap trying to justify their lack of diplomatic skills, penchant for hauler ganking then claim its all about 'anti-imperialism' etc etc
CDC = straight talking 0.0 pvpers who kill us for fun
Who would you respect more? Not a hard question to answer - but even so I'll provide a hint: not CC.
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