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Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:47:00 -
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I fail to see how this "clarification" clears up anything. Looks like the status quo continues. |
Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
163
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:47:00 -
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Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. If you find EVE Online to be too hardcore for your tastes, I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online. If scamming was banned, that would also bring about banning of suicide ganking, piracy and similar activities, or even completely disabling PvP.
you know what F*UCK YOU
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Ryann Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:48:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:ChickenPox wrote:Oh please. This game has a reputation for much worse. Months or years of work can go up in smoke in a single night because of one person. We've all heard the stories about this game. That's one of this game's major selling points. For the people whose time/money is lost, it's real life. THIS GAME ALWAYS CROSSES OVER INTO REAL LIFE...to some degree, we all accept that. And this isn't even the worst behavior our players can or have produced. You guys are up in arms over this because you were able to put a human voice to the harshness of the game. It seems you're all perfectly happy to ignore "harassment" when it's text based, but as soon as you hear the emotion in a fool's voice, your heart strings are all a-tug, and you melt like butter. And the best part is: Sohkar was extremely offensive, bigoted, and threatened physical violence, while the Bonus Room guys were extremely calm and professional.
So I guess the question is, is this virtual or real life harassment. I don't think Team Speak suddenly makes this real life. It was virtual, and as such, it is perfectly acceptable....and funny. this is exactly why i dont feel like being associated with this game and sad losers like yourself Close the door on the way out |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
2893
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:49:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Aralyn Cormallen wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote: Hi Trebor. What are your thoughts on trivialising real human suffering, such as ****, torture, etc
Curious aside; Does RPing these things in game count as trivialising them? I suppose that'd be a case by case basis judgement. I believe it would be possible to roleplay those incredibly awful subjects while also maintaining the sensitivity and gravitas of the subjects - it could even be possible to do it in a way that was commentary on the subjects or awareness raising, which is good. Wandering off-track here, but some years ago I did quite a lot of LARPing (yeah, laugh it up), and there was a very strict rule that expressly forbid roleplaying those subjects, since although two participants, engaging in a scripted RP could probably handle the subject with sensitivity and gravitas, there was potential for it to go very wrong if someone came upon the "event" without being a scripted participant, and it was safer for all concerned that such subjects were handled abstractly (in fact, my character was involved in an "interrogation", but it was not fully RP'ed, after we successfully captured the target and removed him to a remote location, a GM adjudicated the result after an out-of-game discussion between the participants). Cool just so we know where the in-game line is too. I wouldn't find it acceptible without gravitas either (assuming you mean "being serious" about it), however neither is it particularly plausable to frame onself as a member of certain organisations in New Eden without udertaking at least lipservice to these activities.
Indeed, there's slavery and murder and all sorts of things in the lore of the game. All in all, I don't think roleplaying as a character that has been involved in those kinds of things - on either side - is inherently too worrisome, if it's part of a narrative and handled responsibly, it's fine. If it's done for a cheap laugh, or to deliberately evoke an emotional response out of someone else, or something like that, then I think it's pretty awful
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5612
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:49:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. If you find EVE Online to be too hardcore for your tastes, I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online. If scamming was banned, that would also bring about banning of suicide ganking, piracy and similar activities, or even completely disabling PvP. you know what &*(#$
Hey CCP, this guy is having a melt down, Is it alright if we laugh at this one or is that against the EULA? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2737
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:50:00 -
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Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. If you find EVE Online to be too hardcore for your tastes, I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online. If scamming was banned, that would also bring about banning of suicide ganking, piracy and similar activities, or even completely disabling PvP.
Out of curiousity, has any space game ONLY concentrated on allowing you to mine and manufacture and nothing else?
In the X series, you could be anything, and were encouraged to choose empires to be friendly with
I suppose you could avoid combat and any NPCs but... well I guess I didnt see that as being fun but others might. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
168
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:51:00 -
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Danalee wrote:
People in your position should be a lot more carefull in calling other players real-life scumbags for things they clearly don't understand... I feel.
D.
Ah yeah the righteous indignation of Kristalll, who I think to remember, admitted to running a channel called Kristallnacht... |
Korhaka Mirunas
Unkindness Incorporated Unkind Initiative
28
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:52:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. If you find EVE Online to be too hardcore for your tastes, I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online. If scamming was banned, that would also bring about banning of suicide ganking, piracy and similar activities, or even completely disabling PvP. you know what F*UCK YOU
How mature of you... Makes me wonder how you would feel if someone was to run a locator agent to find and gank your mining ship. We need T3 Shuttles!!-áhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiR5Q72kT1U |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2737
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:53:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Indeed, there's slavery and murder and all sorts of things in the lore of the game. All in all, I don't think roleplaying as a character that has been involved in those kinds of things - on either side - is inherently too worrisome, if it's part of a narrative and handled responsibly, it's fine. If it's done for a cheap laugh, or to deliberately evoke an emotional response out of someone else, or something like that, then I think it's pretty awful
I wouldnt really see the advantage to be had in doing it for a cheap laugh
In fact if someone was usin the lore of the Blood Raider Covenant in that way, I would consider it my Holy Duty to make them suffer for it, but that could be treading a fine line too.
And New Order? A player organisation, with set goals and structure (Even if "borrowed" from a few previous groups), and reasonably rich RP tradition, hated by some, liked and understood by others. I would consider them the same way. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
Salvos Rhoska
845
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:53:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:I fail to see how this "clarification" clears up anything. Looks like the status quo continues. My reading and understanding of events and the statement, would indicate that what Erotica1 was doing has constituted some incident which atleast give cause to question that they might be "extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world." Else this statement would not have been necessary in the first place.
But retro-active action has many problems associated with it. I wont and cant speculate on what action CCP has taken aside from the statement, nor frankly, do I really even want to know. Its none of my business. Its between CCP and whatever parties are involved (or not).
Now the statement has been made, any future actions by players that constitute ""extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world." has been reinforced as something that CCP will act upon.
Whether some aspects or incidents of the Bonus Room constitute that, remains unclear. But I, for one, wouldn't attempt to test the seriousness of this statement by doing anything that even remotely could be construed to fulfill what it delineates against. ------------ |
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3175
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:54:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. If you find EVE Online to be too hardcore for your tastes, I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online. If scamming was banned, that would also bring about banning of suicide ganking, piracy and similar activities, or even completely disabling PvP. you know what F*UCK YOU
Well. That escalated quickly. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
163
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. If you find EVE Online to be too hardcore for your tastes, I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online. If scamming was banned, that would also bring about banning of suicide ganking, piracy and similar activities, or even completely disabling PvP. you know what &*(#$ Hey CCP, this guy is having a melt down, Is it alright if we laugh at this one or is that against the EULA?
Why did you change your post? look at all the worms that are now coming out? its patheric and sad. As soon as CCP make an announcement, you retards start coming out defending what people have done. Sad really really sad. Youre lowlife scum.
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3179
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:56:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Why did you change your post? look at all the worms that are now coming out? its patheric and sad. As soon as CCP make an announcement, you retards start coming out defending what people have done. Sad really really sad. Youre lowlife scum.
CCP made their announcement. It's the thread you're commenting on right now. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
ChickenPox
0x1
5
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:56:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:this is exactly why i dont feel like being associated with this game and sad losers like yourself You're rage quitting because you don't like hearing violent racists get angry about losing their space bucks, and I am perfectly okay with that? |
H aVo K
Tycheon Industries Northern Associates.
65
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:56:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote: Why did you change your post?
You'll likely find out. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5616
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:57:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. If you find EVE Online to be too hardcore for your tastes, I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online. If scamming was banned, that would also bring about banning of suicide ganking, piracy and similar activities, or even completely disabling PvP. you know what &*(#$ Hey CCP, this guy is having a melt down, Is it alright if we laugh at this one or is that against the EULA? Why did you change your post? look at all the worms that are now coming out? its patheric and sad. As soon as CCP make an announcement, you retards start coming out defending what people have done. Sad really really sad. Youre lowlife scum. ]
No, im Highlife scum, I leveled up
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Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
771
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:58:00 -
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embrel wrote:Danalee wrote:
People in your position should be a lot more carefull in calling other players real-life scumbags for things they clearly don't understand... I feel.
D.
Ah yeah the righteous indignation of Kristalll, who I think to remember, admitted to running a channel called Kristallnacht...
Don't speak in riddles man/woman! What do you mean? Do take care, I'm allmost feeling harassed.
D.
Edit: the united states holocaust museum would like to have a word with you by the way |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2737
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:58:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Why did you change your post? look at all the worms that are now coming out? its patheric and sad. As soon as CCP make an announcement, you retards start coming out defending what people have done. Sad really really sad. Youre lowlife scum.
I know Im putting my hand in a blender here but why are you letting people get to you?
You know that by rising to it you are only making yourself angrier?
To all : C'mon guys, let this one go *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
5191
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:05:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:I fail to see how this "clarification" clears up anything. Looks like the status quo continues. I'm sure they'd love nothing more than to vent their own personal feelings on the matter for us. But they're not going to break their own rules. The exact "clarification" people want would involve them discussing the case at hand and/or answering 3000 hypothetical questions.
Personally I don't believe this has or will result in any bans. I think if it did then the announcement would have a tone more like a reminder to the community about standards, rather than an attempt to clarify their own position. But who knows.
I think that's beside the point though overall. If anything it's obvious this whole issue raised quite a high level of community concern. CCP have at least taken that concern seriously and looked at it. I'd bet they'll be a little more vigilant with this type of issue in the future as a result so regardless of bans it should still send a strong signal to the community that people need to be careful with this stuff as there are indeed lines that can be crossed, despite their blurriness, and that if they are crossed they will take action.
I feel a post I quoted earlier really identified perfectly the point in which we should consider things becoming "harassment". Now whether or not CCP mirrors the same interpretation as that guy? Well who knows.
-áGÖí-á-á-áMajor (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä Sith1s Spectre: "Here at Sky Fighters we respect quality forum PvPers." |
Bayonnefrog
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:06:00 -
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PinkPanter wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:PinkPanter wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:PinkPanter wrote:So move along pretty much.
Ok.
Watch my accounts.
Later.
*** not a rage quit. Just disagreement and something I do not want to affiliate myself with. Holla at ya. Don't forget to tell us how many accounts so I know how many new accounts to sub to compensate. Go cry more noob lol. And **** yeah I'll give my stuff away :) To all the nice people I know of course So wait. You post telling ccp you are quitting the game (thus costing them money, which is a lie of course, you won't quit)) because they didn't do what you wanted them to and somehow that turns into 'me' crying. I know you Ero haters were out there, but damn lol. No, I'm selling my toons to convert them to ISK, giving ISK to my friends so they can continue doing what they like and I quit. It's actually that simple. Sometimes in life you disagree with things and you can either choke it up or move. Nothing extraordinary here. My point is sometimes you need to make a statement or set a rule that will be clear to all and in best interest of the whole community. CCP goes vague again and that's where my road parts. I don't have that MANY accounts but it's something and while I'm sure it won't make a difference to them it will to me. I stood to my principle and honestly whatever you do in life that's how you should go through it. I'm here for quite a while now but I know this is just a game and never really looked at it in any other way. One of many out there. :) Good luck to all and wish you all the best. :)
That is your prerogative of course but I would hope you reconsider. I think if we want to make the game better we remain in it and do our best to influence it that way even if we disagree with a decision/position CCP might take. |
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
2946
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:07:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:So to be completely clear, how do you know if someone is harassing someone else? If I were to say "That guy right there took me onto a TS3 server and harassed me for hours on end", do CCP ban them?
The reason companies don't generally take a stance on things that happen outside of the game is because they are impossible to prove. In this specific instance, it's been recorded by the guy doing it, but in absence of that there's no way to prove it, so is the rule "any reports of harassment will be met with a ban" or "if you don't record it you can tell people to go kill themselves"?
Also, in what media does this take place? If I'm on a completely different forum or a blog and I personally attack someone else, am I now going to get a nice ban from CCP? How do you decide where the line of jurisdiction ends, or do you not worry about lines (maybe you're the DDOJSIOC, 10 points for naming the reference without google)? How do you ensure that a person listed in an attack is actually that person? If I were to go off and record my mate pretending to harass me then claim it was done by someone in game, how would you prove otherwise?
Needless to say there are a LOT of questions that need pretty firm answers. Just speculating, but it seems like they won't police what people do outside of the game. But if something blows up in an undeniable crapstorm, they might take action.
Excerpted quotes [emphasis added by me]: -"verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action" -"CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment"
It looks like unverified or non-publicized harassment isn't covered. Neither is ordinary, non-extraordinary harassment. |
Snot Shot
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
700
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:08:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:I have refrained from public comment on this issue because of all the ongoing CSM/CCP consultations, but now that CCP has issued their statement, I feel it is only appropriate to give my perspective.
Lying, cheating, general douchebaggery and the harvesting of tears are all part of the "sandbox" that is the game of EVE Online.
But that said, all of us have a responsibility to recognize when a fellow player is starting to lose emotional control -- when things stop being a game -- and respond in a humane manner. And deliberately trying to induce and deepen that loss of control is reprehensible conduct that should shock and dismay the vast majority of the community.
So the tl/dr for me is: Feel free be a douchebag inside the sandbox, but if you kick the sand outside of the sandbox, don't be surprised if CCP kicks you out of the sandbox as well.
Stuff like losing your sh*t on comms and bitching out the people in your fleet is not something I would worry about. Nor is making people sing for their ship.
But if you make someone sing for their ship and then sadistically wratchet up the psychological pressure until they are a total wreck, then you're a real-life scumbag, and I won't shed a tear if CCP decides they no longer care to do business with you. Thanks T o/
I listened to some of the Twitch stream recording the E1 put out to explain why he does the bonus room and he genuinely explains how he was really just trying to help the community and the new players by showing them how you can be exploited in EVE....
Thanks for the effort E1, when you teach your kids how to swim do you tie weights to their ankles and hold a life ring just out of reach as they come up for their last breath?...
Fly sa.......oh.... . Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" |
Tyrant Scorn
140
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:08:00 -
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Dear CCP Falcon,
How do you deal with harassment outside the game media, for example on TeamSpeak or Mumble ?
I have had multiple instances where people would insult me to a point where they would insult my family, threaten to kill my dog, come to my house and do something to me or beat me up at fanfest. I even had a guy tell me I should get cancer and die.
How do I deal with that ? CCP has no authority outside of the ingame media, however the out of game comms are an extension and are directly related to the game.
I am an adult and I have pretty thick skin and yet, I am man enough to admit that something inside me broke when certain people made those insults. I felt really hurt and it touched a sensitive side of me and instead of getting angry I could do nothing other then feel really bad about it.
So, how do you deal with things like that ? Can I come to CCP and ask for action taken against these individuals ? Do I have to supply a recording ? Host at Legacy Of A Capsuleer Podcast www.legacyofacapsuleer.com |
Bayonnefrog
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:08:00 -
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Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online.
I am unfamiliar with this game. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2737
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:13:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Thanks for the effort E1, when you teach your kids how to swim do you tie weights to their ankles and hold a life ring just out of reach as they come up for their last breath?... .
Why not? You want weak kids?
If they drown they obviously dont want the air enough to work out that if they UNTIE THE WEIGHTS they will live
Honestly, its like no one knows how to play this game *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2740
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:19:00 -
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Bayonnefrog wrote:Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:what an utterly terrible response. Guess its time to GTFO.
There is no way this will ever stop unless scamming is banned, people will just hide it better. Dont think I can associate myself with a company or community that endorses this type of behavior. I would like to suggest you try something like hello kitty online. I am unfamiliar with this game.
"The game tells the story of a hero (the player) helping Hello Kitty and her friends wake up from eternal slumber and defeat a "mysterious and malevolent power"" (known as BleeZard). *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2817
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:19:00 -
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Tyrant Scorn wrote:Dear CCP Falcon,
How do you deal with harassment outside the game media, for example on TeamSpeak or Mumble ?
I have had multiple instances where people would insult me to a point where they would insult my family, threaten to kill my dog, come to my house and do something to me or beat me up at fanfest. I even had a guy tell me I should get cancer and die.
How do I deal with that ? CCP has no authority outside of the ingame media, however the out of game comms are an extension and are directly related to the game.
I am an adult and I have pretty thick skin and yet, I am man enough to admit that something inside me broke when certain people made those insults. I felt really hurt and it touched a sensitive side of me and instead of getting angry I could do nothing other then feel really bad about it.
So, how do you deal with things like that ? Can I come to CCP and ask for action taken against these individuals ? Do I have to supply a recording ? HTFU. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
671
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:20:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: Why not? You want weak kids?
If they drown they obviously dont want the air enough to work out that if they UNTIE THE WEIGHTS they will live
Honestly, its like no one knows how to play this game
A lot of people across several, if not all video games, would rather have the work done for them; the 'buff' or that 'nerf'. Instead of figuring out ways to get through the problem themselves, most gamers will simply complain until it's fixed, or changed to their liking; even if the issue is something that can be worked out by the player, or a group of players. Why put forth effort when you don't have to and get the same results?
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2740
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:22:00 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: Why not? You want weak kids?
If they drown they obviously dont want the air enough to work out that if they UNTIE THE WEIGHTS they will live
Honestly, its like no one knows how to play this game
A lot of people across several, if not all video games, would rather have the work done for them; the 'buff' or that 'nerf'. Instead of figuring out ways to get through the problem themselves, most gamers will simply complain until it's fixed, or changed to their liking; even if the issue is something that can be worked out by the player, or a group of players. Why put forth effort when you don't have to and get the same results?
iknorite
The thing I love most about EvE isnt the total freedom, or the fact that every moment can be stark staring terror if you want it to be, but the fact that theres pretty much nothing thats impossible if you put your mind to it
Finding creative solutions is this game's greatest gift to gaming *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
MajorBean
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:23:00 -
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CCP protect me there are bad people. ;(
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