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Kristalll Caldari Provisions Caldari State 142	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:28:00 - [421] - Quote Bayonnefrog wrote: Kristalll wrote: Bayonnefrog wrote: Riot Girl, do not shift the blame away from Ero 1 and Co. THEY were the ones who created the mess they find themselves in now, not Ripard. He merely pointed out what happened and articulated why it was wrong. This just in: Sensationalism is just articulation! If you want to know what the Bonus Room is ACTUALLY about: http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room And this is what the Ero 1 apologists fall back on if someone calls them on it. The fact is that Ripard described in detail and put into context what goes on in the Bonus Room, specifically the one with Sohkar in it, and how wrong it is. So, you are SUPPORTING the idea that having someone sing on teamspeak is torture? This has got to be a troll.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3065	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:28:00 - [422] - Quote mkint wrote: CCP Guard wrote: Tyrant Scorn wrote: Dear CCP Falcon, How do you deal with harassment outside the game media, for example on TeamSpeak or Mumble ? I have had multiple instances where people would insult me to a point where they would insult my family, threaten to kill my dog, come to my house and do something to me or beat me up at fanfest. I even had a guy tell me I should get cancer and die. How do I deal with that ? CCP has no authority outside of the ingame media, however the out of game comms are an extension and are directly related to the game. I am an adult and I have pretty thick skin and yet, I am man enough to admit that something inside me broke when certain people made those insults. I felt really hurt and it touched a sensitive side of me and instead of getting angry I could do nothing other then feel really bad about it. So, how do you deal with things like that ? Can I come to CCP and ask for action taken against these individuals ? Do I have to supply a recording ? In almost all instances similar to what you describe, we would advise you to contact local authorities if you feel threatened or if you feel that laws have been broken. It's not common that events taking place outside the game or our websites result in disciplinary action from us due to obvious reasons, but we do reserve the right to restrict access to your services when we find them to be used for violating the EULA. Players are of course always welcome to contact us and ask for advice or assistance. In other words, if someone gets murdered IRL because of in-game events, CCP not only condones, but squarely files it in the "someone else's problem" column. That's because it is someone else's problem. Why would CCP have any involvement in a murder trial, other than to submit evidence if requested? Oh god.
Seven Koskanaiken The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans 1101	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:29:00 - [423] - Quote Bing Bangboom wrote: Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says "I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. " So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved. BBB Don't worry pilots of Jita, anyone jonesing for a 5x isk fix are welcome in my bonus room on skype any time. Oh, and in this bonus room... ...it ain't mayo.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 14598	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:29:00 - [424] - Quote http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?16342-The-Bonus-Round&p=1053833&viewfull=1#post1053833 1 Kings 12:11
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 5528	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:30:00 - [425] - Quote Bayonnefrog wrote: Kristalll wrote: Bayonnefrog wrote: Riot Girl, do not shift the blame away from Ero 1 and Co. THEY were the ones who created the mess they find themselves in now, not Ripard. He merely pointed out what happened and articulated why it was wrong. This just in: Sensationalism is just articulation! If you want to know what the Bonus Room is ACTUALLY about: http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room And this is what the Ero 1 apologists fall back on if someone calls them on it. The fact is that Ripard described in detail and put into context what goes on in the Bonus Room, specifically the one with Sohkar in it, and how wrong it is. Not according to Sohkar.... To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3065	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:33:00 - [426] - Quote Shizuken wrote: I think your real gripe, which you cant really argue without looking weak, is that there are more people out there than you thought that find this type of behavior unacceptable, and that for once on these forums we have been louder and more convincing than people like you. Doesn't strike any chords. Oh god.
Moja Hinken State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:34:00 - [427] - Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper.
Kinis Deren House Of Serenity. Disband. 372	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:35:00 - [428] - Quote Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread.
Dave Stark 4806	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:35:00 - [429] - Quote so basically CCP have said "we're going to carry on doing what we were, which is nothing." called it.
Dave Stark 4808	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:36:00 - [430] - Quote Moja Hinken wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper. except in real life you can't just "block" some one, like you can online. there are pretty much 0 parallels between her story, and what is being discussed here.

Kristalll Caldari Provisions Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:39:00 - [431] - Quote Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread. Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim".
Tear Jar The Conference Elite CODE. 56	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:39:00 - [432] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Please feel free to discuss this statement in this thread, however please also be aware of the forum rules, and our rules on discussion of warnings and bans. Above all, lets keep it civil and constructive. Thanks again. My issue is that we already knew everything you posted. Obviously, if its extreme enough, CCP will take action against real life harrassment extended from Eve. Nobody disputes that. The drama is over the vagueness of real life harrassment. The ideal solution would be to give specific information over when the line is crossed, that way future drama like this can be quickly closed down by simply citing that information. As it stands, even if the bonus room is banned, all that really shows is that if you generate enough drama over something, it will be banned.
Xuixien Attitude Adjustment Incorporated 1151	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:40:00 - [433] - Quote CCP is very skilled at typing a lot of words to say nothing at all. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required.
Moja Hinken State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:40:00 - [434] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Moja Hinken wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper. except in real life you can't just "block" some one, like you can online. there are pretty much 0 parallels between her story, and what is being discussed here. Oh but there is. Any type of emotional trama that is caused wether it be temporary or long term harrassment can cause great harm to the parties who are victim especially if those victims are already mentally disturbed to begin with. But hey man i'm on your side im all about manipulating the weak and causing long term damage. Lets dish out the psycological abuse together bro!!
Kristalll Caldari Provisions Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:40:00 - [435] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Moja Hinken wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper. except in real life you can't just "block" some one, like you can online. there are pretty much 0 parallels between her story, and what is being discussed here. What? You mean Erotica 1 DIDN'T physically assault Sohkar?!
Kaius Fero 13	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:42:00 - [436] - Quote Malcanis wrote: http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?16342-The-Bonus-Round&p=1053833&viewfull=1#post1053833 Did anyone told you that you need a big Dislike button? A really BIG one!
Dave Stark 4808	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:43:00 - [437] - Quote Moja Hinken wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Moja Hinken wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper. except in real life you can't just "block" some one, like you can online. there are pretty much 0 parallels between her story, and what is being discussed here. Oh but there is. Any type of emotional trama that is caused wether it be temporary or long term harrassment can cause great harm to the parties who are victim especially if those victims are already mentally disturbed to begin with. But hey man i'm on your side im all about manipulating the weak and causing long term damage. Lets dish out the psycological abuse together bro!! if providing you with english lessons were abuse, i would gladly encourage that type of abuse.
voetius BITB Support Services 209	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:43:00 - [438] - Quote Bing Bangboom wrote: Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says "I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. " So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved. BBB The problem with these sort of issues is that people will spin them whatever way suits their prejudices as seen in the recent threadnaught. In the case of the quote above, if CCP had stepped in and laid down the law then there could quite well have been more outrage for "interfering in the sandbox, blah blah". It's a no-win situation in many ways.
Kinis Deren House Of Serenity. Disband. 373	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:45:00 - [439] - Quote Kristalll wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread. Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim". I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association.
Xuixien Attitude Adjustment Incorporated 1152	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:47:00 - [440] - Quote Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread. Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim". I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association. Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP... It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING". I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required.

Dave Stark 4813	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:49:00 - [441] - Quote Xuixien wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread. Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim". I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association. Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP... It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING". I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though. you mean, the activity that had been going on for months, and months, and months that nobody cared about didn't bring attention until some one made a sensationalised article about it on a well trafficked blog? i am sincerely shocked.
Kaius Fero 13	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:50:00 - [442] - Quote voetius wrote: Bing Bangboom wrote: Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says "I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. " So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved. BBB The problem with these sort of issues is that people will spin them whatever way suits their prejudices as seen in the recent threadnaught. In the case of the quote above, if CCP had stepped in and laid down the law then there could quite well have been more outrage for "interfering in the sandbox, blah blah". It's a no-win situation in many ways. Yeah right.. CCP banned Mittani for a month, then burn Jita started. Are you serious.. these bans are only for the press. We are free to fuk up anybody we want.. only rule is to be outside of game ;) We are safe now :)
Antisocial Malkavian Antisocial Malkavians 348	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:51:00 - [443] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Above all, lets keep it civil and constructive. Thats sarcastic, right? http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears you will be harvested
Kinis Deren House Of Serenity. Disband. 377	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:53:00 - [444] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: i am sincerely shocked. Don't worry, you'll get over it
Moja Hinken State War Academy Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:54:00 - [445] - Quote Xuixien wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread. Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim". I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association. Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP... It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING". I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though. Players like me and the large majority who have posted recently are very glad this was brought to our attention. I had no idea this kind of psychological abuse was going on.
Xuixien Attitude Adjustment Incorporated 1155	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:54:00 - [446] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: you mean, the activity that had been going on for months, and months, and months that nobody cared about didn't bring attention until some one made a sensationalised article about it on a well trafficked blog? i am sincerely shocked. Well since Erotica 1 has been dragging CCP's name through the mud for almost a year with Bonus Rounds, maybe some of our forum participants can name some "victims" other than Sohkar? You know since the whole thing is like a really big deal and all, and not just this one incident. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required.
Xuixien Attitude Adjustment Incorporated 1155	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:55:00 - [447] - Quote Moja Hinken wrote: Players like me and the large majority who have posted recently are very glad this was brought to our attention. I had no idea this kind of psychological abuse was going on. I'm still unaware of any "psychological abuse" and have been eagerly awaiting someone to point out such to me for... days now. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required.
Lucas Kell JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance 2838	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:55:00 - [448] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: Then you should definitely do something about it. Like get in a better alliance, or make Spacemonkeys not terrible at everything. Really? Why should my actions be to deal with the consequences of my choices? Surely the new ruling is hat you aren;t allowed to speak to me negatively about my choices instead. Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: All I see is a trail of tears friend. A trail of sweet, delicious tears. Then you should look harder. What I'm going against here is an attack on freedom of speech with incredibly loose rulings leaving a huge margin for error brought on by the rage of the public over a single instance instead of rational decision making based on the overall situation. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Asia Leigh Beyond New Frontier 49	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:56:00 - [449] - Quote Xuixien wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread. Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim". I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association. Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP... It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING". I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though. Exactly. CCP knew about this the minute the recording hit Miner Bumping. If they really thought this broke any rules, ero's account would have been actioned then and not now. The only reason they are doing so now is some angry kid with a blog is effectively holding them hostage...
Kinis Deren House Of Serenity. Disband. 377	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:57:00 - [450] - Quote Xuixien wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Kinis Deren wrote: Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread. Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim". I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association. Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP... It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING". I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though. So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or try to remove the splinter & infection?



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