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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.29 00:57:00 -
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Brorr Liason wrote:I'll be sure to file a petition every single time someone says something mean to me on Teamspeak, Mumble or Vent. I guess that's what this announcement means. I would exercise some caution. Real-life harrassment may well include harrassing the GM staff with spurious petitions. Like any honest politician, "My door is always open, and my hand is always out" |
Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2014.03.29 00:57:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
lol but recognize, that for all my blah blahblah, you missed the part where I already told you where I fall on this and its not MY cause.
roflmao, this is a fun game man
So you're actually just an attention seeking **** stirrer? An emo kid kicking the thread for his infantile jollies and the "hey, look at ME!!!" factor?
I'm cool with that.
Carry on, forum warrior.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
826
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:00:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:Ripard Teg brought what was an unknown issue to people like myself and the wider community who do not necessarily use the official forums , and vast majority stated there dis-stain for such behavior. I do not interact with trade hub locals because i know its scam central. Therefore having not been scammed like many others who take precautions , i was unaware such action was taking place. Ripard Teg brought what i believe to be a immoral act in my opinion to light . That is all he did
Evidently most people agree about this being immoral . But its upto each person to decide this and CCP to make judgements about what they consider acceptable behavior in the community which they built and which they provide for us. They did end off story
And you don't think Ripard Tegs blog had anything to do with CCP's decision or their joint announcement with CSM?
Because that is what is the core issue, and has been since day 1 of this.
If CCP felt Erotica1 was deserving of a ban, why not a month ago? 3 months ago? 6 months ago? a year ago? Either its eerily similar timing, or it is clearly a decision made because of Ripards actions, and is serving to only appease the outrage.
As far as I can tell I can still take you into teamspeak, make you sing songs, coerce you into giving me all your things. That hasn't changed, so exactly what rule was violated? In the past month between this particular situation being posted on EVEO, and Ripard Tegs blog what has changed?
But I am sure the 400 page thread, and the negative remarks on MMO community sites following Ripards blog had nothing to do with CCP's decision.
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Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
88
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:00:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ssieth wrote: It's really not very complex. CCP choose to run the rules with fairly significant grey areas and that's EVE. It goes along with the gankers, scammers and awoxers (who are in no way threatened by the ruling here and are, in fact, protected by the existence of those grey areas). If you don't like games where the rules have grey areas of this nature then there are plenty of games with much clearer divisions between black and white. I'm sure there are folks here who can recommend some.
Right. CCP's decisions are never, EVER, changed by player reactions to their decisions. RIGHT?
I missed the point where I argued to the contrary of that. I'd be happy to acknowledge it in fact and to state that I think that CCP would be insane to ignore the opinions of their customers. That bit where I mentioned that CCP clearly articulate their right to change the rules and to iterpret them? This might be one of those very reasons. Again - if this causes you anguish I'd recommend you find somewhere less anguish-inducing. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |
olan2005
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
58
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:00:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:Ripard Teg brought what was an unknown issue to people like myself and the wider community who do not necessarily use the official forums , and vast majority stated there dis-stain for such behavior. I do not interact with trade hub locals because i know its scam central. Therefore having not been scammed like many others who take precautions , i was unaware such action was taking place. Ripard Teg brought what i believe to be a immoral act in my opinion to light . That is all he did
Again... Kugutsumen. Same thing. Banned from the game, his name made to hit the swear word filter for SEVEN YEARS But yeah. Totally different. I gotta go to wal mart, ill brb. This is so fun tho
I am unaware of what your talking about and would have to review the facts on this case before rendering an opinion. Bear in mind games, communities and people evolve and change over-time . With the serous advent of social media the internet is more prevalent in our lives. That is the reason rules and regs with regards to virtual inter-action now exist. What might have been unacceptable or acceptable seven years ago has changed in some instances . Its all about your point of view. And like it or not CCP point of view is a little clearer with this action. Whether you think that's good or bad is up-to you . Personally well done ripard teg for bringing this disgusting behavior to light. And to CCP you took your sweet time, but did what i believe to be in everyone interests , from my perspective |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4595
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:02:00 -
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Brorr Liason wrote:I'll be sure to file a petition every single time someone says something mean to me on Teamspeak, Mumble or Vent.
I guess that's what this announcement means.
Let us know how that works for you.
Better select another forum now, though, as you likely won't be able to log in to this one.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4025
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:03:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:Ripard Teg brought what was an unknown issue to people like myself and the wider community who do not necessarily use the official forums , and vast majority stated there dis-stain for such behavior. I do not interact with trade hub locals because i know its scam central. Therefore having not been scammed like many others who take precautions , i was unaware such action was taking place. Ripard Teg brought what i believe to be a immoral act in my opinion to light . That is all he did
Again... Kugutsumen. Same thing. Banned from the game, his name made to hit the swear word filter for SEVEN YEARS But yeah. Totally different. I gotta go to wal mart, ill brb. This is so fun tho I am unaware of what your talking about and would have to review the facts on this case before rendering an opinion. Bear in mind games, communities and people evolve and change over-time . With the serous advent of social media the internet is more prevalent in our lives. That is the reason rules and regs with regards to virtual inter-action now exist. What might have been unacceptable or acceptable seven years ago has changed in some instances . Its all about your point of view. And like it or not CCP point of view is a little clearer with this action. Whether you think that's good or bad is up-to you . Personally well done ripard teg for bringing this disgusting behavior to light. And to CCP you took your sweet time, but did what i believe to be in everyone interests , from my perspective
Do you actually not know who Kugu is? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
826
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:03:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:Ripard Teg brought what was an unknown issue to people like myself and the wider community who do not necessarily use the official forums , and vast majority stated there dis-stain for such behavior. I do not interact with trade hub locals because i know its scam central. Therefore having not been scammed like many others who take precautions , i was unaware such action was taking place. Ripard Teg brought what i believe to be a immoral act in my opinion to light . That is all he did
Again... Kugutsumen. Same thing. Banned from the game, his name made to hit the swear word filter for SEVEN YEARS But yeah. Totally different. I gotta go to wal mart, ill brb. This is so fun tho I am unaware of what your talking about and would have to review the facts on this case before rendering an opinion. Bear in mind games, communities and people evolve and change over-time . With the serous advent of social media the internet is more prevalent in our lives. That is the reason rules and regs with regards to virtual inter-action now exist. What might have been unacceptable or acceptable seven years ago has changed in some instances . Its all about your point of view. And like it or not CCP point of view is a little clearer with this action. Whether you think that's good or bad is up-to you . Personally well done ripard teg for bringing this disgusting behavior to light. And to CCP you took your sweet time, but did what i believe to be in everyone interests , from my perspective
http://themittani.com/features/kugutsumencom-brief-history |
Percival Rose
J44 Capital Axiom Initiative
8
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:03:00 -
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Lazrim wrote:I have no dog in this particular fight, but I have been playing this game off and on for about ten years. Mostly off due to RL time constraints, but I've still seen lots of things come and go. From a fairly disinterested and jaundiced eye I will say in this episode that Ripard Teg et al. (bloggers etc.) are no different than Erotica 1. Both parties are creepy in their own particular way. Erotica 1 used in game scams to facilitate a meta-game where he could cause RL anguish to fellow players. Ripard Teg et al. used their blogs to facilitate (by manipulating CCP?) a meta-game where they could cause RL anguish to Erotica 1. So, EVE is still EVE and all parties involved, in this episode, have much more in common than they may realize.
When you become subject of a scam, gank or blog post this may **** you off. But the fact that it's allowed makes EVE a great game. It's the very reason I keep coming back to EVE while all my other games are catching dust.
I really don't understand why everyone is raging at Erotica1 while you all seem to be fine with the blog post on Jester's Trek. While some of it is based on facts, it's biased and slanderous. If anyone should be banned it's the author of that article. De you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:04:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Liese Shardani wrote:Drone 16 wrote:But what if I write M...A...L..C...A...N...I...S in peanut butter on my chest? Can I get a discount? I have visions of this becoming a thing at FanFest. Forcing Malcanis to lick his name -- written in any condiment -- off your chest would be considered abusive behavior, although TBH I am not sure who would be abusing whom in that particular instance. For the record, you're the one who introduced the part about Malcanis doing any licking. *I* thought we were still just talking body art here.
There should be a hospitality suite at FanFest where the only refreshments provided are jars of condiments. No signs, no explanation, just jars.
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olan2005
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
58
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:05:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:Ripard Teg brought what was an unknown issue to people like myself and the wider community who do not necessarily use the official forums , and vast majority stated there dis-stain for such behavior. I do not interact with trade hub locals because i know its scam central. Therefore having not been scammed like many others who take precautions , i was unaware such action was taking place. Ripard Teg brought what i believe to be a immoral act in my opinion to light . That is all he did
Again... Kugutsumen. Same thing. Banned from the game, his name made to hit the swear word filter for SEVEN YEARS But yeah. Totally different. I gotta go to wal mart, ill brb. This is so fun tho I am unaware of what your talking about and would have to review the facts on this case before rendering an opinion. Bear in mind games, communities and people evolve and change over-time . With the serous advent of social media the internet is more prevalent in our lives. That is the reason rules and regs with regards to virtual inter-action now exist. What might have been unacceptable or acceptable seven years ago has changed in some instances . Its all about your point of view. And like it or not CCP point of view is a little clearer with this action. Whether you think that's good or bad is up-to you . Personally well done ripard teg for bringing this disgusting behavior to light. And to CCP you took your sweet time, but did what i believe to be in everyone interests , from my perspective Do you actually not know who Kugu is?
nope
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
399
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:06:00 -
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Bael Malefic wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
lol but recognize, that for all my blah blahblah, you missed the part where I already told you where I fall on this and its not MY cause.
roflmao, this is a fun game man
So you're actually just an attention seeking **** stirrer? An emo kid kicking the thread for his infantile jollies and the "hey, look at ME!!!" factor? I'm cool with that. Carry on, forum warrior.
roflmao Id have figured ppl would have caught onto this earlier...
Like PAGES earlier. http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4027
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:07:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:Ripard Teg brought what was an unknown issue to people like myself and the wider community who do not necessarily use the official forums , and vast majority stated there dis-stain for such behavior. I do not interact with trade hub locals because i know its scam central. Therefore having not been scammed like many others who take precautions , i was unaware such action was taking place. Ripard Teg brought what i believe to be a immoral act in my opinion to light . That is all he did
Again... Kugutsumen. Same thing. Banned from the game, his name made to hit the swear word filter for SEVEN YEARS But yeah. Totally different. I gotta go to wal mart, ill brb. This is so fun tho I am unaware of what your talking about and would have to review the facts on this case before rendering an opinion. Bear in mind games, communities and people evolve and change over-time . With the serous advent of social media the internet is more prevalent in our lives. That is the reason rules and regs with regards to virtual inter-action now exist. What might have been unacceptable or acceptable seven years ago has changed in some instances . Its all about your point of view. And like it or not CCP point of view is a little clearer with this action. Whether you think that's good or bad is up-to you . Personally well done ripard teg for bringing this disgusting behavior to light. And to CCP you took your sweet time, but did what i believe to be in everyone interests , from my perspective Do you actually not know who Kugu is? nope
Someone linked it above.
The short of it is that Kugu was a whistleblower for a MUCH worse issue. Outright cheating and developer favoritism to a specific nullsec alliance.
He exposed it, and was figuratively nuked. IP banned for life, his name made into a word bannable to say for years. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
88
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:09:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Do you actually not know who Kugu is? nope
For reference: http://themittani.com/features/kugutsumencom-brief-history
Not an unbiased source but a relatively succinct one. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |
olan2005
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
58
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:10:00 -
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ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
400
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:10:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:
I am unaware of what your talking about and would have to review the facts on this case before rendering an opinion. Bear in mind games, communities and people evolve and change over-time . With the serous advent of social media the internet is more prevalent in our lives. That is the reason rules and regs with regards to virtual inter-action now exist. What might have been unacceptable or acceptable seven years ago has changed in some instances . Its all about your point of view. And like it or not CCP point of view is a little clearer with this action. Whether you think that's good or bad is up-to you . Personally well done ripard teg for bringing this disgusting behavior to light. And to CCP you took your sweet time, but did what i believe to be in everyone interests , from my perspective
Do you actually not know who Kugu is?
Quote: Someone linked it above.
The short of it is that Kugu was a whistleblower for a MUCH worse issue. Outright cheating a developer favoritism to a specific nullsec alliance.
He exposed it, and was figuratively nuked. IP banned for life, his name made into a word bannable to say for years.
Short version; CCP employees were giving an alliance T2 BPOs (when they erre being seeded into the game in the first place). Kugu blew the whistle on them having done that, HUUUUUGE bad PR incident (the creation of the CSM), all kinds of ****. Kugu was banned from the game, and his name was on the filtered list for seven years. I mean every time you said his name on the forums, it came out as ************ instead. http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4027
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:11:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment
You will note that Kugu is still banned, despite being entirely in the right. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4178
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:12:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:
I am unaware of what your talking about and would have to review the facts on this case before rendering an opinion. Bear in mind games, communities and people evolve and change over-time . With the serous advent of social media the internet is more prevalent in our lives. That is the reason rules and regs with regards to virtual inter-action now exist. What might have been unacceptable or acceptable seven years ago has changed in some instances . Its all about your point of view. And like it or not CCP point of view is a little clearer with this action. Whether you think that's good or bad is up-to you . Personally well done ripard teg for bringing this disgusting behavior to light. And to CCP you took your sweet time, but did what i believe to be in everyone interests , from my perspective
Do you actually not know who Kugu is? Quote: Someone linked it above.
The short of it is that Kugu was a whistleblower for a MUCH worse issue. Outright cheating a developer favoritism to a specific nullsec alliance.
He exposed it, and was figuratively nuked. IP banned for life, his name made into a word bannable to say for years.
Short version; CCP employees were giving an alliance T2 BPOs (when they erre being seeded into the game in the first place). Kugu blew the whistle on them having done that, HUUUUUGE bad PR incident (the creation of the CSM), all kinds of ****. Kugu was banned from the game, and his name was on the filtered list for seven years. I mean every time you said his name on the forums, it came out as ************ instead.
The story of he who shall not be named.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
400
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:12:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment
Right, and Kugu was punished for the very reason you say the publisher of this blog SHOULDNT be punished for.
Bringing it to the players' attention. http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
olan2005
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
58
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:12:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that people should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment You will note that Kugu is still banned, despite being entirely in the right.
Hmm if you want to start a unban Kugu thread i will totally support it |
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olan2005
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
58
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:13:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment Right, and Kugu was punished for the very reason you say the publisher of this blog SHOULDNT be punished for. Bringing it to the players' attention.
YES BECAUSE A LOT HAS CHANGED IN SEVEN YEARS |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4178
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:13:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment Right, and Kugu was punished for the very reason you say the publisher of this blog SHOULDNT be punished for. Bringing it to the players' attention.
Well, that, and he kinda tried to blackmail CCP just a wee bit.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
826
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:14:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment You will note that Kugu is still banned, despite being entirely in the right.
He was banned for leaking personal information, not for leaking the misdeeds. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
400
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:15:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment Right, and Kugu was punished for the very reason you say the publisher of this blog SHOULDNT be punished for. Bringing it to the players' attention. YES BECAUSE A LOT HAS CHANGED IN SEVEN YEARS
Man, for being so young, how do you fanboi so hard lol
Oh ****, all caps! Did I elicit an emotional response? Do I worry about being banned now? http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:17:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment Right, and Kugu was punished for the very reason you say the publisher of this blog SHOULDNT be punished for. Bringing it to the players' attention.
Ripard was not busting on a CCP employee for misconduct. He was highlighting some pretty deviant behaviour by a group or players. Fundamental difference there.
He decided to go crusading, for his reasons. Many rallied to his flag.
CCP recognized a problem and decided to do something about it. Maybe they knew earlier. Maybe they didn't. Maybe it is not fair. Maybe that is irrelevant as it is their service to operate as they see fit.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4029
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:18:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment You will note that Kugu is still banned, despite being entirely in the right. He was banned for leaking personal information, not for leaking the misdeeds. (or so they say) His name was banned because CCP was butthurt that they got put out.
That was the official reason, yes.
But we all know it's because he didn't have enough blog puppets. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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olan2005
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
58
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:18:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment You will note that Kugu is still banned, despite being entirely in the right. He was banned for leaking personal information, not for leaking the misdeeds.
I still look at that and think CCP was wrong SEVEN YEARS AGO . While distasteful the leak of personal information served in my opinion a greater good . To use a extreme modern example look at snowdon. His giving classified material to russians uncool. But his initial actions of revealing just how much GCHQ AND THE NSA were intruding into peoples private business sparked a huge debate and exposed the fact that both the US and Britain spied on world leaders and their own people . As a Brit i say my government in the wrong and Snowdon initial actions were bang on correct from my perspective |
LordOfDespair
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:18:00 -
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Vague as always CCP. |
Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:28:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:olan2005 wrote:ok skimmed the mittani thread. THE T2 back then really annoyed me quit eve for a while as a result . CCP has changed a lot since then with regards to policies of in-game interactions and use by employees. But yes in that incident seven years ago CCP were in the wrong completely . Thank fully since then a lot has changed and with the internet being so widespread, CCP and other corporations cant sensor people without damn good reason .E.G i express disapproval of corporation A its fine
E.g i express hatred and state that poeple should attack said corporation (A) thats not and probably i would receive some form of punishment You will note that Kugu is still banned, despite being entirely in the right.
Pretty sure posting personal CCP employee information is not 'entirely in the right'.
Just to clarify, I'm not saying he didn't do the right thing. He just went about it the wrong way. And I will forever hold the fact that we're stuck with the CSM on his head.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Schmata Bastanold
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:30:00 -
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So... it this a thread to ***** for likes now? I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
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